1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a fun camping trip, but 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: now we're broken up. 3 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Aw, I'm think a bad camping trip. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Right, I twenty five mail have been seeing this girl 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: En Nancy Nancy twenty six female for a few months. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: We started soon after I moved to the country. On Friday, 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: she told me that she was going camping and invited 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: me along. Since it was last minute, she had already 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: packed and I just had to grab my stuff and 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: jump on the train to meet her, which I did. 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from a fou Bar eleven 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Oho eleven on the AM. I wrong subparate, So Friday 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: was good fun. We were listening to music and chatting 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: about stuff on the drive. She had been asking me 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: to think about cutting down on my Devil's let us 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: use I have a prescription for sleep and anxiety. Also 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: keen for me to get up early with her to 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: do activities, since I am usually more of a night owl. 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: I agree to this and used significantly less of the 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Devil's lettuce than usual on Friday and went to bed early. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I woke up with her around five point thirty that morning, 22 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: and we started the day with yoga and chatting. She 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: offered to make any breakfast, and I happily accept it. 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: I went off to the loo about eight fifteen in 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: the morning, but was having some difficulties and ended up 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: being in there for half an hour. That's unfortunate. 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I feel like I haven't absorbed any What are you talking, dude? 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: No, I like, I come like I'm listening to it, 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: but he's like, And I went into the bathroom. I 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: was using the Devil's lettuce, and then I wasn't using it. 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: And then I went to the bathroom and oh, that's fair. 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: We haven't I think we haven't entered full Ramble territory yet. 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: But we're we're flirting with it. 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: We're flirting with it. 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh god. So when I got back, Nancy had packed 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: up everything and seemed cross. Now we're getting into it, 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: she plot lines plot lines. She said that she had 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: been waiting for me and had been wanting to go 39 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: out paddle boarding. I said sorry and explained that while 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: it took a while to crap and said that I 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: understood that she felt like I had disrespected her time. 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Sorry, I was having IBS problem. You know that when 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: disrespect your time. 44 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: It happened. It happens. Ladies and gentlemen, it happens. 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, let's perspective on his name. 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: Apparently, Oh my gosh, are you okay? 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: What happened? 48 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I just heard you swallow that. 49 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: It was like it was like that dog in a 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: house moving castle, and he's like, you. 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Know, I literally he just inhaled. No, no, no, I don't 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: know what just happened. It was like air just. 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: Completely. 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. I was just like, I'm fine. 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: John almost died alive. I'm alive. 56 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep reading. Listen, how great my voice is 57 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: so not dead. So apparently, oh, oh, I thought you're 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: pointing at the m True, you're okay. That's good to know. 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: I said sorry and explained that it took a while 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: to crap, and I said that I understood that she 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: felt like I had disrespected her time. Apparently I didn't 62 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: reassure her in the right tone, and she told me 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: to f off auci. I said, I didn't feel like 64 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: I deserved to be told to f off. Then she 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: said it again. I then started making a c because 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I could feel myself getting aggravated. She asked why I 67 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: was having it, and I said, because I don't give 68 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: a crap like the one I just dropped in the potty. 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't give a crap. I drop them. 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Nice one, Sophia. She said, thank you for giving me 71 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: the closure that I needed. I said, sorry, I do 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: give a crap. I just want to calm down. What 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: is happening. Well after this, we finished packing the car. 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: She locked it, walked off with her paddleboard and hammock, 75 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: looking mad and not saying anything to me. I followed 76 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: her to the lake with my backpack and was trying 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: to ask I could go paddleboarding with her. She wasn't 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: really saying anything, and when we got to the lake 79 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: it was pretty choppy water. She then said she was 80 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: annoyed because when she had come there earlier, it would 81 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: have been more calm. This is just a mess. She 82 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: put up her hammock and it was blowing in the 83 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: wind quite a bit. In hindsight, I probably should have 84 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: recognized this danger more. But an ICU in the comments off, 85 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: you see what's about to happen. But I've only been 86 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: in a hammock a few times, Whereas it's something Nancy loves, 87 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: so I assumed that she didn't need or want my advice. 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: It felt like she was pissed about the paddle boarding 89 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: and me having a vape, and I didn't know what 90 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: to do or say. I had put my bag next 91 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: to her hammock, and it had my phone in it. 92 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Note that we live in a generally very safe country, 93 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: and I was getting very poor reception in most places 94 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: in the campground, so I wasn't really using it or 95 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: thinking about it at all. I walked down a path 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: to go look at some boats, which I did, and 97 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: then I saw another beautiful path where I decided to 98 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: continue on for a bit. I didn't say anything before 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I left, which was bad or ic use. But also 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: she was literally telling me to f off about ten 101 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: times that morning, so it seems OP might indeed be 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: fing off foreshadowing in my head. I was getting some 103 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: space and time to process. I walked around the path 104 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: for maybe twenty minutes, and then I came back. I 105 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: was feeling much happier, and I wanted to try and 106 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: just move past stuff and enjoy the week. It's gonna 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: work out perfectly. 108 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: I think everything's gonna be fine. 109 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: I think Nancy's gonna be like, Oh, I'm so glad 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: that you had your moment alone without telling me, yes, 111 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: and now let's go back. 112 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Let's go paddle boarding. You know, I've not just calmed 113 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: the waves. I've calmbed my soul, of my heart. It's 114 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: gonna be so great with smooth sailing, smooth sailing. When 115 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I got back, Nancy was lying chest down on top 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: of her paddle board. 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: Did she pass away? 118 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's like on 119 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the ground or in the water. I thought she was 120 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: just chilling at first, so I sat on the paddle 121 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: board and tried to talk to her. It became clear 122 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: pretty much immediately that something was wrong, and I went 123 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: over to her, and she said she had fallen out 124 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: of her hammock and that I had seen it. I 125 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: was really really concerned because she said she had fallen 126 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: on her head and neck, and was also confused and 127 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: didn't know what to say about the accusation. So I 128 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: guess she's just like in the water on. 129 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: The I think she's on the ground, Yes, I fell 130 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 4: out on my paddle board on the ground. 131 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like I think I'm picturing this hamm hammick. 132 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Yes, she's in a hammock, That's what I see. 133 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: So she just stays there for twenty minutes. 134 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Great visual representation without using non visual humor. But that 135 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. What do you mean. Have you ever 136 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: been in a hammock? Yeah, it's hard to fall out 137 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: of it. Not really, Well, it sounds like. 138 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: It's kind of I mean, like once you're in the hammock, 139 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: maybe like a nylon getting into a hammock. 140 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I could see that. 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: I could see that because I'm like, if you're in 142 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 4: the hammock, no matter how much wind blows, if you're 143 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: in the middle, Like, if you're in the middle of it, 144 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: you're not going anywhere. 145 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: But I feel like she was trying to get like 146 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: one of those hammocks that's like heart, you know, like 147 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: there's hammocks that are hard to get into. 148 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ropy ones are a lot more challenging, but 149 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the nylon ones, like camping ones, Yeah those are Anyways, 150 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: I didn't see anything or hear anything. I don't know 151 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: why or what exactly happened. I walked away while she 152 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: was looking at getting in the hammock, so I guess 153 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: it did happen soon after I walked away. So it's like, hey, 154 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I literally fell out of the hammock and you just 155 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: mos it on down, nice little way, Yeah, nice little 156 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: reflection time. 157 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: And then she literally stays. She's like she just staying there. 158 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: She was like, this gets back, He's gonna be She's 159 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: gonna be so sorry. 160 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: You abandoned me and I'm stuck on the barn. Why 161 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: do you abandon me? You said, Well, I have mild 162 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: to moderate hearing loss hearing aids, which I wear to work, 163 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: but not usually while camping. We were in a fairly 164 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: thick bush and there was a bunch of Cancites quite 165 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: close by, which I hadn't heard her call out. I 166 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: had also gotten her messages asking for help about a 167 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: half hour later, calling me a sociopath. Yeah, if she 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: was blowing up at him for taking a crap too long, 169 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: she is going to eviscerate him. 170 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: For this big time. 171 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: I tried to say these things, but was mostly just 172 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how she was injured and what 173 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: to do. She had fallen straight on her neck, and 174 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I was terrified at the possibility she had broken her neck. 175 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I tried to tell her not to move as much 176 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: as possible. She said because she had called over that 177 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: her neck wasn't broken, that she would have stopped moving instantly. 178 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to say that we needed to call 179 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: an ambulance just to be safe, because I wasn't a 180 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: medical expert. My understanding is that it's possible to break 181 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: the spinal vertebrate without damaging the nervous system, and that 182 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: you become paralyzed if the unprotected nervous system is damaged. 183 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Is that true? Chat? Is that true? 184 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: Comments piece of doctor. 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I'll also read this. 186 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: She one hundred percent stage the fall, says Rey Ray. 187 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: I agree with that. That's my conspiracy theory. We're doing 188 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: a poll. 189 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if I think that she just fell 190 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: and I think she like dramatized it. 191 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: I think she she fell and dramatized it, and that 192 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: this is a perfect storm scenario to where she can, 193 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: like super super super overly react. And Opie does have 194 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: reasonable alibis as to why he didn't hear while he 195 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: walked away, his phone didn't go off, But she's gonna 196 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: use it to. 197 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Just crank it up a notch, turn it well. 198 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: And that you can become paralyzed if the unprotected nervous 199 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: system is damaged, which can happen immediately with the break, 200 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: but doesn't always. She was acknowledging that she needed to 201 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: go to the host but wanted someone to just take 202 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: her because she was worried about the cost of the 203 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: ambulance due to her visa in a country with public 204 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: health care, but don't know exactly how it works with 205 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: her visa. Okay, so it's like, yeah, she might get 206 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: charged possibly. She said she thought this would cost about 207 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars and that was a big chunk of 208 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: her savings. And then she felt like her neck was 209 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: fine because she had been able to crawl to the board. 210 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: If she's crawling, that's kind of an issue, it seems. 211 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: She's like, it seems like an issue while the jets, 212 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: while the money sucks everything I've ever heard about the 213 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: situation would be to call an ambulance. And I tried 214 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: to explain that, but she said she wouldn't talk to 215 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: me ever again if I did. What the heck, what's that? 216 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: I can't even say it. 217 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,239 Speaker 3: Either she just tries to make an issue out of everything, 218 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: or she's not actually hurt and she's like, don't call 219 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: an ambulance because I'm not actually hurt. 220 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna fake this and I'm gonna. 221 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: I think she's using everything to her adage to continue 222 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: to escalate the tension. I feel like and make him 223 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: the bad guy. 224 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: And I was gonna say the the three d's of 225 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 4: medical lingo, M that's been free that. 226 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? 227 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but I don't want to get arrested, so 228 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say it. 229 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: You know what he's talking about. It's the three d's 230 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: that certain big healthcare companies used to not let people 231 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: get there. Yes, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, hows 232 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: you that's what she's afraid of. This h somebody called 233 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: the we. I still feel like I should call the ambulance, 234 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: but said that I would run and get help to 235 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: get a second opinion. I run around a cancite and 236 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: saw some friendly looking people around our age. I ran 237 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: over to them and tried to explain as best I could, 238 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: and two of them, a man and a woman, came 239 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: with me. The girl went off to find the park ranger, 240 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and the dude seemed to know first aid and was 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: checking things and understanding what had happened. He asked me 242 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: to gently touch her heels and see if she could 243 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: tell which side she could, and put a towel over 244 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: her so she wouldn't get sunburned, so they covered her 245 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: up and Yeah, to me, I'm like, if you can't 246 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: get up, it's a problem. 247 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah if you literally get like, who cares if you 248 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: crawled over? If you had to crawl, probably go to 249 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: the hospital. 250 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Michelle Evelyn says it's one hundred and nine percent fake. 251 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: If she was actually her, I don't think she would 252 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: be as stingy. 253 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like what's he supposed to do? She's yelling at 254 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: him for not doing anything, and then he's like, Okay, 255 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: let's do something. 256 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: She's like, no, I'll never right chat with you if 257 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: you do. And she's just like crawling around on the ground. Yeah, 258 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: I do have an okay story time about ambulances after 259 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: this that happened over Christmas break whoa oh. 260 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: And also it's gonna hurt whenever this is actually true. 261 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: And we're making fun of her for faking it. 262 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Right are you writing, Sophia, They're like, ooh, she was right, 263 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: she couldn't. Dang, that's we're gonna say. To even comments 264 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: they'd be like, Sophiam. 265 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: Well everyone was with me, so you're all coming down too. 266 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: So I was happy they were there to help and advise. 267 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: The dude was saying that because we weren't experts. He 268 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: also felt like she needed an ambulance, and when the 269 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: girl and the ranger got back, they were saying the 270 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: same thing. At this point, I called the ambulance. The 271 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: reception was atrocious and they weren't hearing ninety percent of 272 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: the things I was saying. I was rushing around, trying 273 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: to find better perception, trying to communicate exactly what happened, 274 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out exactly how to give directions 275 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: to a rural spot, and also trying to relate instructions 276 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: to everyone else. OHP's running ragged. Ambulance said they would 277 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: send someone immediately and asked if it was easy to 278 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: find in the campground. I wasn't really sure, and the 279 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: girl and the ranger said someone should go to the 280 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,239 Speaker 1: corner to wait, and encouraging me to go. This was behindsight. 281 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I feel like she's not gonna like this. I felt 282 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: like she's gonna have. 283 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: The ranger told him to go. The ranger tells me 284 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 3: to do something, I'm doing it. If he told you 285 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: to jump up a bridge and break your spine so 286 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: you could barely crowd. 287 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: To do it, the rangers telling me to do it. 288 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: That's what he said. Obviously I should have stayed with Nancy, 289 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: but I was just trying to get her the proper 290 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: medical help asap. At the time, I asked Nancy where 291 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: the keys were and she said she didn't want me 292 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: to drive her car. I said that to the ranger 293 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: who asked if I was a bad driver, I said, 294 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good driver. I am a 295 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: good driver. Nancy has never seen me drive before due 296 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: to roadside substance testing laws in our country, which can 297 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: detect positive because of the Devil's lettuce right which can 298 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: detect positive days after you use it, and no exception 299 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: for medical patients like me. I had a small VAP 300 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: around three hours prior, but I also have a high tolerance. 301 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: Didn't feel much from the first VP in the first place, 302 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: and it felt completely sober at that point. So I 303 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: took Nancy's car and said that I was going to 304 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: drive to the corner and should be back soon again 305 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: to kind of wave down the ambulance. In hindsight, I 306 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have left her there, but she was so angry 307 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: with me. I thought she might be happier around other people. 308 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Felt like I was leaving her with three safe and 309 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: trustworthy people, and also the ranger was saying they'd probably 310 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: be less than twenty minutes away. So I drove down 311 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: the road and was waiting there for about forty five minutes, 312 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: freaking out about what to do, if I should stay 313 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: and wait or go back to see Nancy. And you know, 314 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: those forty five minutes feel like that's an eternity. Yeah, 315 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: when you feel like you know Nancy is just. 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 5: Like huming, boiling with rage, sunburnt under her towel, and 317 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: starting to panic about not being there, but also worried 318 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: that if I left it, the ambulance wouldn't know where 319 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: to go. 320 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: I was also getting basically no reception on the road, 321 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: so I couldn't call anyone. God. I eventually decided to 322 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: try and call the ambulance again. Reception was so poor 323 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: we needed to communicate with button presses of zero four, yes, 324 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: zerio zero for now that's a smart idea, though, yes, 325 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: but that's terrible. I drove back into the campsite and 326 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: managed to communicate more and got a better idea of 327 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: when they were coming. I went back to Nancy and 328 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: the ranger and only the ranger was left at this point. 329 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: But okay, kind of crazy that the ranger doesn't have 330 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: some sort of like a billit yeah, radio to call 331 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: for like, because this is I mean, I feel like 332 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: that's what a ranger is supposed to do. 333 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he's there for. 334 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: Really, his whole thing is like to make sure that 335 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: people are okay. He should totally be going and getting 336 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: that ambulance. 337 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: Like, hey, you random civilian, go fly. 338 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's his job. 339 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: I guess, so right, Maybe they don't have as good rangers. 340 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: Maybe the rangers suck. 341 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: Maybe the rangers are trash, but Obi says soon after, 342 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: some other rangers arrived and he sent them to the roads. 343 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: This time they see at least there at least now 344 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: the other rangers are doing that. I was sitting next 345 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: to Nancy trying to reassure her and also chat to 346 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: the ranger. After a bit, the paramedics finally arrived. They 347 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: listened to what had happened and talked to Nancy. They 348 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: checked her neck and determined it wasn't broken. Amazing, we're 349 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: safe for that so far. They sat her up. They 350 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: gave her some basic pain relief and asked her pain level, 351 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: which she said was a seven out of ten. They 352 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: said that she had a concussion and gave an information 353 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: she on how to handle that. So see see dang. 354 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: The medical professional said she has a concussion, but she 355 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: didn't break her neck. Though she's got a concussion and 356 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: an alleged seven and at ten pain. Yeah, chat comments, 357 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: go go go attack Sophia. You see her, go attack 358 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: Riley right there, go go attack? 359 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: Was wrong? 360 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I kind of stayed out of it, 361 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: so don't detect me. He was thinking what we were thinking. 362 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: It's not the same you liear insane. 363 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Not So they asked some of the questions and they 364 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: said that they would take her to the hospital. She 365 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: didn't say anything for a bit, and I said that 366 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I thought that she might be worried about the cost 367 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: because of her visa. They said they didn't know about that, 368 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: but would be happy for her to stay there with 369 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: someone who could look out for her for the next 370 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: twenty four hours and then drive her to the hospital 371 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: if needed, which she agreed to. So we haven't even 372 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: incurred the cost of the of the ambulance. 373 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: It's the ranger who could have been doing all of 374 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: this from the first place finally get a driver to 375 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: the hospital. Maybe maybe I will say it. 376 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it does make sense if they 377 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: thought her neck was broken to like not one of them, he. 378 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't have them. I would imagine the medical training necessary 379 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: that they did. But after they left, she admitted that 380 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: she was worse than she had told them. Why why, 381 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: She said she felt nauseous something it said on the 382 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: information form that she should immediately go to the hospital for. 383 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: She expressed that she didn't really feel like doctors can 384 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: help work, and that the only thing that would make 385 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: her feel better was staying in nature at the campsite. 386 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: It was like, I have to go battle barning some 387 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: yoga concussion. 388 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: That that heals concussions. That's what I hear. 389 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: That's what I've heard too. 390 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Cte, Yeah, stay with the tree. 391 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 3: That they actually have this new thing where all the 392 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: football players who got concussions. 393 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: They just they just take them out in nature. 394 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: Don't they prescribe like actually in Japan, don't they prescribe 395 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: like a time in the wilderness and stuff. But for 396 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: like stress and anxiety. 397 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: So they used to do that. 398 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: They used to be like if you were really sick, 399 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: that they would send you to the mountains for some cool, 400 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: fresh air. 401 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Now they just give you a pill and your you 402 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: feel better. 403 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: Dang it Like one of my favorite movies, The Wind Rises. Oh, 404 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 3: I won't spoil it, but they send someone to the mountains. 405 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: Thank you. Sophie is just her internal thing of like 406 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I can't spoil it, but I'll give you this classic 407 00:17:54,880 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: so good that I feel around coming so so now. 408 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: Nancy said that she was angry at me for how 409 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: I had handled the situation, saying that she knew her 410 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: neck was fine, and for leaving to go wait for 411 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the ambulance. She then said that the ranger said he 412 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: had purposefully sent me away because he thought I was frantic. 413 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Apparently when I got back, he was asking if she 414 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: felt comfortable with me being there. Okay, so I guess 415 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: he was like unsure if it was. 416 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like was she was clearly underlike there 417 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: was like a lot going on, she maybe broke her neck, 418 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: and he was worried. 419 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like, hey, do you feel comfortable with this guy? 420 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: The rangers trying to get the read of the situation. 421 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: So she's like clearly hostile towards him. She's like atop, yes, 422 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: it's your fault. So clearly the rangers are like, oh, 423 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: maybe she doesn't. 424 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Like this guy, which is a good thing to double check. 425 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I think I was honestly feeling humiliated hearing that he 426 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: had said that. I felt like I had been doing 427 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: everything I possibly could for the last two hours at 428 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: that point, and she was angry at me for how 429 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I handled some difficult spur of the moment decisions. We 430 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: went to her car, and the next few hours were 431 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of a blur, but I'll try to explain as 432 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: best as I can remember. I know I effed up 433 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: a lot at this point. Do we agree, Chap, honestly, no, 434 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't. 435 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: I feel like he's not really done anything that bad, 436 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: Like he was in the bathroom for a while, Bobby 437 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: maybe going off for twenty minutes, like without saying anything. 438 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: Could it dance like the most thing? 439 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: Bobby says, haha, yeah, right, she is toxic. Yeah, that's 440 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing. 441 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: I did get a haircut, Nikki. Thank you. 442 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: It's a great cut. Thanks, it's a great cut. That's 443 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: all acknowledge it. That's all acknowledge it. I encouraged her 444 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: to go to the hospital because of the nausea, but 445 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: she didn't want to. I was hungry and tired and 446 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: stressed out from everything at this point, and understood she 447 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: had a concussion and had a traumatic experience, and found 448 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: it increasingly hard to deal with her anger and belief 449 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: that I had watched her fall on her head or 450 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: cry out for help and then left her. I knew 451 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: we were both hungry, and I tried to give her 452 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: a snack and offered to make food, but for some reason, 453 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: she took stuff out and started doing it herself. I 454 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: offered to take over and make something alongside it, but 455 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: she said she wanted to and it was enough for 456 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: the both of us. I didn't have any other food there, 457 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: and I was really hungry at this point. Here's the 458 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: point where I might be a huge a hole. Yeah, oh, 459 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: I thought you thought I was saying, here's the point 460 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: where John Fry. I John Fry was here. I was like, okay, 461 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: tell me, I didn't I didn't spend enough time saying 462 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: what a great haircut. So if I did not ask 463 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: for so much of the story, I didn't ask more 464 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: about the Winds Rising movie and allowie long illustrious rants 465 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: of John Zlee. 466 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: If we play back where Sophia said thank you for 467 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: about the haircut, and John was like, yeah, nice haircut. 468 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: She checked out. She was like, what's nice cut? You 469 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: mean the greatest haircut of all time? 470 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: Okay, well, now it feels like you're lying to me. 471 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: Let's just this story. 472 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: How did I fake hahle and then becoming what is happening? 473 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: What is that? Are you with codes? And Nancy? What's 474 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: going on? 475 00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: Goodes? 476 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Well, at some point she was making lunch. I responded 477 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: to one of her accusations by saying that I couldn't 478 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: believe that she believes that I would leave her their hurt. Dude, 479 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: wait out m out tell him out, time out, time out. 480 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: We're on it. 481 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: You he went to go help. Yeah, like what he 482 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: didn't know. 483 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: It really feels like she is the type of person 484 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: that finds a problem with everything and that ope he's 485 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: like slight maybe slight in consideration at times or just 486 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: like not thinking becomes this huge issue yeah, where he 487 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: is actively inconveniencing or actively hurting her and she like 488 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: blows up about it and he's like, whoa, I'm sorry 489 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: and that She's like, well, now I'm od at you 490 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: for apologizing, And it's like this ongoing thing where he's like, 491 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: I don't even know what. 492 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: The right thing to say is. 493 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: She's making mountains out of molehills. 494 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: Those mule hills are humongous. 495 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: That's right. I said that I felt like she often 496 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: forgot all the positive things I do and can only 497 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: focus on the negative or perceived things that she imagines 498 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: that I did. She said she didn't I feel like 499 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: she needed to apologize for saying f you earlier because 500 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: she was emotionally disregulated at the time. Also, I just 501 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: got diagnosed with ADHD a few weeks ago, and she 502 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: was two about a year ago. Right, that's what you say, 503 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: like she was also diagnosed. I said, the fact that 504 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: she said things to me like I just use her 505 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: to get off when she has been the one asking 506 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: me for spicy sleep much more than I have been, 507 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: and I always make sure she is pleased. She's the 508 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: one who refused to delete dating apps off her phone. 509 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Oh oh, when when I realized they were on there, 510 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: even after I told her I deleted them a month ago. 511 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: Girls, she's mistreating you. She's mistreating you, and he's just 512 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: letting it happen. 513 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: She's definitely projecting right now, or maybe every single thing 514 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Opie does is wrong. 515 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, considered that op is just bad at everything. 516 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Like when he breathes incorrect, incorrect, you gotta do it. 517 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: That's slight against her. 518 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Come on, why are you breathing in my direction? Let 519 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: me have my own oxygen boom. I've told her that 520 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: I really care about her and feel love for her. 521 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: It hurt me that she even thought that I would 522 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: watch or get hurt and then not help her. I 523 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: know she has trauma in her past, which is probably 524 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: why she thinks that. I said that she couldn't see 525 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: all the things I was trying to do to show 526 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: her I cared about her lifestyle changes and ways that 527 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: I've been giving her my energy and made her my focus. 528 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: I said it was so obvious that she felt this 529 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: way that even when I had been doing my absolute 530 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: best to help her when she was hurt, the ranger 531 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: still picked up on it and sent me away because 532 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: it's what he thought she wanted. She didn't. I said 533 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: that it sounded like she had had some huge a 534 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: holes in her life before, but I had never had 535 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: problems like this with anyone, and that I was sick 536 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: of her making me feel like everything was my fault. 537 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I said that if everyone she previously dated had caused 538 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: her issues, that said more about her than me, and 539 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: that I wasn't a monster that would leave her there hurt. 540 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: Real quick, the. 541 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 3: Tmlet says, Okay, listen, TBI patient here. Sadly, mood swings 542 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: and personality changes are symptoms, and nausea right after the 543 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: blow is a sign of possible brain bleed. She needs 544 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: medical attention asap. I do think she needs medical attention. However, 545 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's necessarily a mood swing, because 546 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 3: as it does, seem like she was doing this before. 547 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like even she was doing that the whole day, 548 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: like when when he had just used the bathroom and 549 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: she was like you f you That was before any 550 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: of this went down. Yeah, I mean basically what Opie described. 551 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: I mean, so really quick, do you think Opie's an 552 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: a hole? Reading the line back again, I said that 553 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: if everyone she previously dated it caused her issues, that 554 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: said more about her than me, and that I wasn't 555 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: a monster that would leave her their hurt. 556 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's fair. 557 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he is. I believe he is. Definitely, 558 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: he's like just telling the truth. 559 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, but he's he's the boyfriend that 560 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: can't do anything right, Yeah, he can't. 561 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: He can't do it. Yeah, I think she's very much 562 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: exactly what you said, Sophia. She will take anything that 563 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: he does and just turn it into an issue. 564 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: And like, I don't know, I don't know. I have 565 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: some thoughts about the boyfriend too. Yeah, I don't know. 566 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: He seems a little like maybe oblivious of some things. 567 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Could be could be. Yeah, I mean he, you know, 568 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: him walking off like we don't know, we're just hearing. 569 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: His side of the story was like I have hearing 570 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: I have some hearing issues. I you know, walked off. 571 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: There was thick bush. He could have told. The one 572 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: thing I think for sure that he didn't do was 573 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: tell her like, hey, I'm gonna go over here and 574 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: like maybe take a walk for twenty thirty minutes. That 575 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I think is that was a problem. 576 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, even if she did say but I think 577 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: you guys are in nature together. 578 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, even just being like Okay, I'm going to 579 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: take a walk to clear my head. Yeah you know 580 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, better to tell her. But I think 581 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: a one could say an honest mistake. I think so 582 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: an honest mistake. Well, Opie says, after this, she said 583 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: she wanted me to leave the campsite. I talked to 584 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: my mom for a bit, but reception was terrible, and 585 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: asked her to talk to Nancy. I just have mom, Mama. 586 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: She that's kind of funny, honestly. Yeah, he's not he's 587 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: not helping himself. Yeah. 588 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: There. 589 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: I asked her to talk to her sister, but she 590 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: said no, just talk to each other. I asked if 591 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: we could have some food and talk about a plan, 592 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: that we were both angry and not thinking straight. She 593 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: said that I couldn't have any more for food, and 594 00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: she wanted me to leave. 595 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: Now she's beholding food. 596 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: Can't have it, can't have it? Okay, it's my food. 597 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything with me except some clothes and 598 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: a phone with a low battery and water bottle. 599 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: Why didn't you bring a battery pack. 600 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: I tried to ask her about her plant and how 601 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: she could be safe, and pointed out that the paramedics 602 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: had said that she needed to be checked in on 603 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: over the next twenty four hours. That's right, and they 604 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: say like, oh, we need someone trustworthy to monitor her 605 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: for the next four hours. She said that I was 606 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: harassing her and yelled at me to go away or 607 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: she would call the police. At that point, I said 608 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: okay and just asked if I could take some food 609 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: since I was really hungry and didn't have any, and 610 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: she gave me a banana. 611 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: This nightmare camp camping experience, right, Like, don't go camping 612 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: with people you don't really know, like you know what 613 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: their vibe is for real? 614 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: Wait, how long have they been together? I don't know, 615 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: As it said, he'll yeah check for me. I don't 616 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: know is going to act recent? Yeah, maybe a month, 617 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: a month, maybe more than a month, because he said 618 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: girl for a few months, few months. 619 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: So she's just showing her for true color. 620 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: We soon we started soon after I moved to the country. 621 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: So he like has moved to a new country and 622 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 4: he's been with his girl for. 623 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: A few months. 624 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: See, this is where I never go camping. 625 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: No, you don't camp because you don't like being sweaty outside. 626 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: I like, I don't mind being sweaty outside. I just 627 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: like having the ability to take a shower after I'm 628 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: sweaty outside. 629 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: They have they have shower places, they have rivers. That's 630 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: not a shower, that's that's Nature's that that's that's Mother 631 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: Nathan Nature's bath. 632 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: Yep, how could we deny Mother Nature's fun fact. If 633 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: you find a waterfall, what is that, John nature shower? 634 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: I mean it would have to be like a really 635 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: small waterfall, because that's a lot of pressure. I would 636 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: like crush you. 637 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of waterfalls, maybe we'll see one in a month. 638 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that. 639 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: I'm gonna expect to be disappointed in the better freaking 640 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: see a waterfalls. 641 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm a dummy boy. I do dummy stuff. Calm down, kids, 642 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: Well back to the story.