Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast gets pretty podcast privilege. We
Speaker 1: do SESSI from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 2: I am Dan hanss We've got a two hander today,
Speaker 2: joined by my longtime friend and colleague Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: It's up Mark.
Speaker 3: I am sitting in the chair for YouTube purposes. They've
Speaker 3: scrunched us closer together, and I'm sitting in the chair
Speaker 3: where Greg normally sits, and it's, you know, from a
Speaker 3: bodily angle, very awkward. I don't know where it's I've no,
Speaker 3: I don't I understand why I sit where I sit
Speaker 3: and Greg sits where he sits. Yes, yeah, just out
Speaker 3: of the gate. Something to deal with.
Speaker 2: That's something to fight through, and I think you will
Speaker 2: because you are a professional broadcaster. In fact, it did
Speaker 2: just occur to me. We're probably coming up on what
Speaker 2: would it be. I mean, we're talking about maybe the
Speaker 2: twelve year anniversary of the first show we did, the
Speaker 2: original iteration of the Around the NFL podcast, which was
Speaker 2: the ATL Debate Club, Me and you in the old
Speaker 2: closet there in the Culver City offices. Things are very
Speaker 2: different now, but I think back of those days and
Speaker 2: always am thankful to Dave Damashek for giving us our
Speaker 2: start on the back of the Dave Damashek Football program
Speaker 2: and those initial wild episodes of the Debate Club, which
Speaker 2: you know was the embryo of this program, and it.
Speaker 3: Was, you know, I think it was an appropriately appropriate
Speaker 3: sized project and scope. It was about eleven minute eleven
Speaker 3: minutes long aage time, and I think you can't even
Speaker 3: find them anymore. But like when when they were available,
Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago, I went back and listened,
Speaker 3: and we're so like, it's like we've never spoken on
Speaker 3: Mike before. It was I think I think it prompted
Speaker 3: Greg at one point to tell us that if we
Speaker 3: were going to take on a project of that scope
Speaker 3: to do professionally. I'll never forget that comment from.
Speaker 1: Greg, right. Greg said that, yes, okay, when he was
Speaker 1: like the master broadcaster that he is, I always found
Speaker 1: with bosses, and Greg's on vacation still in Hawaii, well earned.
Speaker 3: And he'll never listen to this, and don't anyone tell him.
Speaker 1: And this is a good advice everybody with bosses.
Speaker 2: You can listen to some things they say, and some
Speaker 2: things you just give them a little nod and be like, do.
Speaker 3: I think I think we have that tactic down in
Speaker 3: the current times.
Speaker 2: Today's episode is a good one, by the way, developing news.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Greg at the beginning of our last episode,
Speaker 2: I said, I got to take this opportunity with Greg
Speaker 2: out of the office and off the continental United States
Speaker 2: to dig in on Delaware his high school band. And
Speaker 2: we have major, major movement toward the long standing goal
Speaker 2: of hearing hearing his high school band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about twelve years in the making. This has
Speaker 3: been a longing, ongoing investigating.
Speaker 2: We put out a call, we had named names from
Speaker 2: the band, and we have heard back from certain individuals
Speaker 2: directly tied to Greg's high school band, and I think
Speaker 2: we are closer than ever Mark Sessler to hearing Greg singing.
Speaker 2: Perhaps that will be an opportunity for you to say
Speaker 2: to him, if you want to be in a band,
Speaker 2: perhaps it comes full circle, it's time.
Speaker 1: To be a little more professional. That could be an opportunity.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that would be that'd be an open
Speaker 3: talk about. I find it interesting that, like really, all
Speaker 3: it took was announcing on the show that were this
Speaker 3: mattered to us and this investigation that's been so important.
Speaker 3: There was probably a five year gap where we never
Speaker 3: asked anyone to unearth these tapes, and it showed up
Speaker 3: within twenty four hours. So that's a lesson to us
Speaker 3: on the investigation front.
Speaker 2: In fairness, we've gotten to this level of investigation in
Speaker 2: the past and then we didn't take it home.
Speaker 1: But this is different.
Speaker 3: Well, he also, I think, you know, stuck his fingers
Speaker 3: into it and blocked it on someone when he's gone,
Speaker 3: look how much progress we make on this front.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So stay tuned, That's all I'm gonna say. Stay
Speaker 2: tuned because major developments on. Okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: We're going to welcome our old friend Connor or in
Speaker 2: to the show in a bit to hit the mail bag.
Speaker 2: But before that, let's check in with John Harbaugh, he
Speaker 2: of the proud ownership of a r V and do
Speaker 2: a little news. It's been great, you know, man be
Speaker 2: and myself, you know, like I always wanted to do that.
Speaker 4: It worked out great.
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred feet from Greg Roman. He's got a
Speaker 2: better art.
Speaker 4: Gerro's got a really really good RV.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers,
Speaker 2: is currently living in an RV, not a home. He's
Speaker 2: a multi millionaire. I'm sure it's a very nice RV.
Speaker 2: My wife is long pushed for the Hanss family to
Speaker 2: go on an RV vacation.
Speaker 1: I pushed back, I don't like driving long distances. I
Speaker 1: know I don't get the apeak a little bit, maybe perhaps,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm excited. Like you know, we started
Speaker 1: Debate Club twelve years ago. We've been doing the iteration
Speaker 1: atm Iteration since twenty thirteen, so we remember very clearly
Speaker 1: the Jim Harbaugh days with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: But it's sometimes easy to forget Mark that there's an
Speaker 1: entire generation of young football fans that weren't really following
Speaker 1: the sport in twenty fourteen when he left the team. Like,
Speaker 1: you guys have kids, you guys have no idea what
Speaker 1: you're in for.
Speaker 2: This guy is an interesting dude, and he's a little
Speaker 2: bit out there, and I kind of get the feeling
Speaker 2: based on early vibes around Jimmy Harbaugh and his returning
Speaker 2: the end of fell that he kind of maybe is
Speaker 2: cranked up the weird meter even a couple more notches.
Speaker 2: We might be off the traditional one to ten shard
Speaker 2: at this point, right, and it can only I don't
Speaker 2: know what it means for Chargers, their future and the
Speaker 2: fans in terms of excitement, although I understand why you're
Speaker 2: excited because he's been a winner everywhere he goes.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's not going to be boring
Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh back.
Speaker 3: No, And it's it's like an interesting study in brotherhood
Speaker 3: because like we both have two sons and their personalities
Speaker 3: can be similar in some ways but very different. Like
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh is very different to me than Jim Harbor.
Speaker 3: Like I think of when they slashed in the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl and it was like these are totally different cats.
Speaker 3: And like Jim Harbaugh, I think you're right. I think
Speaker 3: back in the NFL, he likes to he likes to
Speaker 3: up the dial a little and kind of zone in
Speaker 3: on that weirdness that he that really only he can bring.
Speaker 3: But I also thinks he's going to change the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I really do. That's Harbor at nine. Now we're up
Speaker 1: to eleven.
Speaker 2: Like people, I think we're taken it back by Dan
Speaker 2: Campbell as an example, you mentioned the Lions when he
Speaker 2: was very outspoken and maybe spoke in a little bit
Speaker 2: of a different way than other head coaches.
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson and Batman nineteen eighty nine. Wait, did they
Speaker 1: get a load of me? All right?
Speaker 2: Oh, let me hear a little more Jim from that
Speaker 2: press engagement. This is a good one too, you know, just.
Speaker 4: That mentality of that group. I mean, that's like a fist.
Speaker 2: You know, there's five of them, one, two, three, four, five, you.
Speaker 4: Know, playing as playing as one on that offensive line.
Speaker 1: I just love it. I just love it. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it.
Speaker 2: Let's start with good news for the Rams, who add
Speaker 2: a decorated cornerback to their secondary It is Tradavious White,
Speaker 2: formerly of the Bills, signs a one year, eight and
Speaker 2: a half million dollar contract. The Bills, dealing with some
Speaker 2: cap issues, cut ties with White, and the former first
Speaker 2: round pick tremendous beginning to his career mark but he's
Speaker 2: he's dealt with some serious injuries and staying on the
Speaker 2: field has been an issue. But you kind of get
Speaker 2: him here at a bargain, You get him on a
Speaker 2: prove it deal for the Rams, so I think from
Speaker 2: their side of things, you know, have a backup plan
Speaker 2: if White is not able to stay on the field.
Speaker 2: Make sure you have depth in that room. But he
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense as someone to take a
Speaker 2: flyer on and maybe you hit big and he gets
Speaker 2: back to his old ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like why not?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, some of the signings that
Speaker 3: have come in the last forty eight hours are signings
Speaker 3: that make sense to me, and I kind of like
Speaker 3: that though that time time and free agency to pick
Speaker 3: up these veterans. I think with White though, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's played ten games in the last two years. He
Speaker 3: tours his acl in twenty twenty one and then last
Speaker 3: year tours achilles. And if we if we want to,
Speaker 3: you know, whistle Dixie about the fact that Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't matter that he tore his achilles because
Speaker 3: he's not mobile. That's not his main like threatening, which
Speaker 3: I agree with, by the way, no I too, But
Speaker 3: like a cornerback is going to need to show us
Speaker 3: to coming off of an achilles that he's going to
Speaker 3: be able to do back so much. Let's just not
Speaker 3: get another injury. He's just not be en durable.
Speaker 2: And let me rephrase that about Cousins, it does matter
Speaker 2: you suffer a catastrophic lower body injury and you're in
Speaker 2: your mid thirties. We'll see, but I think he's just
Speaker 2: well suited to be able to recover from that without
Speaker 2: losing too much of his game. But you're right, how
Speaker 2: as time has passed, even again since when we started
Speaker 2: this podcast. If you tore your achilles as a skill
Speaker 2: player or a guy that's based like running backs, for instance,
Speaker 2: it's been seen as a death sentence for a lot
Speaker 2: of players, or it was.
Speaker 1: And as a.
Speaker 2: Cornerback, you worry about do they ever get back their athleticism,
Speaker 2: And that's a real question mark, and we'll see. But
Speaker 2: I also think there's and we know there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of advances in the treatment and recovery process from
Speaker 2: that type of injury, so hopefully White is on the
Speaker 2: right side of things. In other news, the Panthers bring
Speaker 2: in today Vin Clowney, the edge rusher formerly of the
Speaker 2: Ravens and many many other teams. He's become the preeminent
Speaker 2: mercenary of his generation. Where he started his career as
Speaker 2: a first overall heavily hyped prospect, went to Houston and
Speaker 2: had a nice run there, but you know, he dealt
Speaker 2: with some injuries, never quite lived up to the lt
Speaker 2: like potential put on him. But it tells you that
Speaker 2: the fact that he continues to stay in the league,
Speaker 2: even if he's never gotten that second, big, long term contract,
Speaker 2: he's always welcome wherever he stops. I know he's been
Speaker 2: with the Browns, he's been with the Seahawks. Now he
Speaker 2: is stop over the Ravens, and now he's with the Panthers,
Speaker 2: who get him and he gets a second year and
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last. I think this is the
Speaker 2: first time since that initial rookie deal that he has
Speaker 2: a multi year contract, two years, twenty million. We'll see
Speaker 2: if he plays both season with the Panthers, but this
Speaker 2: is a team that needed some help there after Brian
Speaker 2: Burns was traded to the Giants, and Clowney coming off
Speaker 2: perhaps his best season, gives them something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost Frankie Louvu as well, who you know
Speaker 3: showed up in every game. You toy Gross Modos went
Speaker 3: to the Niners, so they absolutely needed in edge. Clowney
Speaker 3: is awesome against the run. I think he's just one
Speaker 3: of the more one of the tougher players around. You know,
Speaker 3: he had micro fracture surgery and that would end people's
Speaker 3: careers talking about injuries, and he came back from that
Speaker 3: last year nine and a half sacks with the Ravens.
Speaker 3: That did come under Mike McDonald, who seemed to like
Speaker 3: turn up everyone's production to the maximum. So you always
Speaker 3: kind of wonder if you're going to go to this team.
Speaker 3: But Everro's a good defensive coordinator, and I think they
Speaker 3: needed that piece to put along Derek Brown and dj Wantam,
Speaker 3: So why not. I think the Panthers should be adding
Speaker 3: everyone they can. They've got a lot of needs.
Speaker 2: And maybe that second year got added because it had
Speaker 2: been widely reported that the Jets are very hot on
Speaker 2: Clowney and very motivated to sign them sign him to
Speaker 2: replace Bryce Huff. So the Panthers perhaps going that extra
Speaker 2: year is what got the deal done. So Clowney goes
Speaker 2: to a team that's very clearly rebuilding, but he gets
Speaker 2: a little bit more financial security. I don't actually see
Speaker 2: the terms of the deal in terms of, you know,
Speaker 2: if you will get to a second year, but the
Speaker 2: fact that he signed a two year deal is different
Speaker 2: for Jidavian Clowney. In other news, this was interesting Mark
Speaker 2: we talked about on Tuesday Show with Connie. The major
Speaker 2: overhaul of the kickoff in the NFL. And by the way,
Speaker 2: did you I read this and we did talk about
Speaker 2: it the night of the Super Bowl and Greg had
Speaker 2: mentioned he was sick of the kickoffs producing nothing.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all thirteen kickoffs in the most recent Super Bowl
Speaker 2: were touchbacks. So it's funny how the playoffs we talked
Speaker 2: about the past interference rule that was one and done
Speaker 2: that was a playoff game. We talked about the overtime
Speaker 2: rules changing after the Bill's Chiefs Classic in the divisional
Speaker 2: playoffs where Josh Allen didn't get a chance to get
Speaker 2: on the field. That led to a change. Those postseason
Speaker 2: games are because there's so much on the line and
Speaker 2: there's so many eyeballs on it. It's that round of
Speaker 2: football that really produces the most change. And I think
Speaker 2: that's what's happened here. After the thirteenth straight touchbacks. You
Speaker 2: now have a new rule where we're going to see
Speaker 2: a huge boost and kickoff return. So the idea that
Speaker 2: the Steelers are getting Corterel Patterson arguably the greatest kick
Speaker 2: returner ever, if not obviously in the top five.
Speaker 1: In that conversation, he should be that matters a lot.
Speaker 2: NFL Networks ian Rappaport reports that the Steelers agreed to
Speaker 2: terms with the veteran formerly of the Falcons on a
Speaker 2: two year, six million dollar deal. And Mark He's thirty
Speaker 2: three years old, so he's an older player, but he's
Speaker 2: also someone that has always been either a gadget player
Speaker 2: or part of a scheme, So I don't think he
Speaker 2: has a ton of tread on the tires. He's coming
Speaker 2: off a run with the Falcons where he was in
Speaker 2: a rotation at running back. This it feels like a
Speaker 2: smart signing for Arthur Smith and that Steelers attack.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it happens necessarily here versus
Speaker 3: somewhere else without Arthur Smith, because if you look at
Speaker 3: what how he was used, and you know, Pittsburgh's a
Speaker 3: different team with different personnel. But I think Cordella Patterson
Speaker 3: probably was told you were going to have more than
Speaker 3: just the kick return role here. He had eleven one
Speaker 3: hundred plus yards in twenty twenty one on the ground
Speaker 3: through the air, eleven touchdowns in twenty twenty two, less
Speaker 3: yardage but fourteen touchdowns, so I think he gets got
Speaker 3: a larger part than just kick returner, but they are
Speaker 3: silver and gold now because I think we're going to
Speaker 3: see a rash of teams looking for this role obviously,
Speaker 3: and we don't know how impactful they're going to be,
Speaker 3: but there's a world where like it takes defense as
Speaker 3: a time to figure out how to special teams how
Speaker 3: to defend this kickoff return and it could be wild.
Speaker 3: And I also think it's a great news for some
Speaker 3: of those draftable wide receivers who are maybe smaller but
Speaker 3: lightning quick, but not seen as like a true two
Speaker 3: or three. They have real roles and I think it
Speaker 3: starts to change things in it forever everyone on special teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see how that all plays out.
Speaker 2: It actually makes the you know, I've never been a
Speaker 2: big fan of the preseason, but you're going to get
Speaker 2: an early look in those games, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: How goes well.
Speaker 3: Unless they want to hide with their like you don't
Speaker 3: want to you almost don't want to give too much weight,
Speaker 3: but you're right, we're gonna see in general what.
Speaker 1: Kind of those teams you want to hide it. But
Speaker 1: also they have a well, uh catch twenty two there
Speaker 1: that is that is a classic classic catch twenty two.
Speaker 1: How about to catch twenty two for the Cowboys? What
Speaker 1: else is new? They're all in right? What does what
Speaker 1: does Mike say? What does that say? Etp behind the glass?
Speaker 2: Buy into us right? They want to They want to
Speaker 2: finally get over the hub. They want to get back
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl for the first time in a
Speaker 2: quarter century. And Cowboys fans are dying to get back
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl and they want this to be
Speaker 2: a big, splashy offseason. But they have so much salary
Speaker 2: cap challenge because of the big names on their roster
Speaker 2: and the big salaries that are either currently do are coming.
Speaker 2: Dude down the line. Dak Prescott's at the front of
Speaker 2: that line, so he's their star quarterback and he has
Speaker 2: a massive cap number that Dallas is trying to rework
Speaker 2: his contract to help free up space to do other things.
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys is originally reported by field Yates converted
Speaker 2: Dak's five million roster bonus to a signing bonus and
Speaker 2: that cleared four million in cap. And I'm not going
Speaker 2: to try to dig deep on what this means for
Speaker 2: their ability. There's someone else better than that out there.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a really boring podcast. But I'm sure
Speaker 2: you could find a salary cap driven podcast that could
Speaker 2: satiate your hunger in that situation. But I can tell
Speaker 2: you that his number is now slashed all the way
Speaker 2: down mark to fifty five point four five five million
Speaker 2: this year, so still incredibly prohibitive in some ways. They
Speaker 2: want to perhaps do a new deal that changes and
Speaker 2: kicks kicks the can down the line, but that has
Speaker 2: not happened yet.
Speaker 1: But here's a little bit of relief.
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw Cleveland do this with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3: I mean we've seen a little bit of that with Mahomes.
Speaker 3: It's like, this is the way you get. You sign
Speaker 3: these massive contracts and you keep pushing the money down
Speaker 3: the line and in some cases until the next GM
Speaker 3: and coaching staff have to deal with it. Potentially. In
Speaker 3: this case, the GM is not going away. It's Jerry Jones,
Speaker 3: and I think if Dak, if he Ay truly believe
Speaker 3: in Dak. The one problem is is that with each
Speaker 3: calendar year, how much more expensive does it become to
Speaker 3: sign your star quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just feels like the Cowboys have had the weirdest
Speaker 3: offseason possible based on what they told us heading into
Speaker 3: the off season, and I know Mike McCarthy, he was
Speaker 3: very Zaddy like during the owners meetings, saying like I
Speaker 3: welcome the challenge, like I'm not looking at this as
Speaker 3: you know, something I'm not willing to take on. But
Speaker 3: I mean, how have they gotten better and how have
Speaker 3: they gotten worse? And it's like, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: can't take them entirely serious as a Super Bowl candidate.
Speaker 3: But also just because of exhaustion with you, because in
Speaker 3: the because in years past we've said we would not
Speaker 3: and then like we all get we all get pulled
Speaker 3: back in.
Speaker 1: That's what happens.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it this time. It's not happening.
Speaker 2: They got you last year. They finally got you last year.
Speaker 2: I don't buy into double crossed the sas dog they did,
Speaker 2: and that that adds, you know, that makes it more milicious,
Speaker 2: very successful brand though that cowboy can't question that. All right,
Speaker 2: let's pause right here for a minute and uh take
Speaker 2: a break and then get back to the news.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back in other news. Let's hear God
Speaker 1: Save the King. E t P. What do you think
Speaker 1: about et P as a nickname? Eric the producer, I
Speaker 1: like that. They've been looking for one for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like nickname free and now that's not the case.
Speaker 1: TYI No, maybe not with the southern draw.
Speaker 3: A little creepy.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of heat to it, pop to it,
Speaker 1: little sizzle. All right, let's get.
Speaker 3: Were you actually requesting something from him?
Speaker 2: You're I'm looking for the national anthem of the United Kingdom.
Speaker 2: Because our good friend Henry Hodgson, general manager of all
Speaker 2: things UK football and a major figure with the International
Speaker 2: Pathway program, we got another fun prospect here. He is
Speaker 2: European rugby star Lewis Reese Zemmet and I apologize if
Speaker 2: I have that incorrect. I like the name though it
Speaker 2: could be am but anyway, the Kansas City Chiefs have
Speaker 2: agreed to contract.
Speaker 1: Terms with ree Semmate, who is from Wales.
Speaker 2: He participated in the NFL's International Player Pathway pro Da
Speaker 2: last week, ran at four point four to three in
Speaker 2: the forty yards.
Speaker 1: Wales is a part of the United Kingdom. Did you
Speaker 1: know that mine?
Speaker 3: I did? I lived in the United Kingdom side?
Speaker 1: Did you you've never mentioned that?
Speaker 3: I'm very well?
Speaker 2: First, none forget Diana, Princess of Wales. Mark nailed it anyway,
Speaker 2: he made visits to a handful of teams before agreeing
Speaker 2: to contract terms with the Chiefs, and it ties back
Speaker 2: to Marcus story we just talked about. Because this man
Speaker 2: is a very talented, dangerous player with a rugby ball
Speaker 2: in his hands. The Chiefs, according to ESPN's Adam Teacher Tecker,
Speaker 2: we'll look at the player as a running back or
Speaker 2: perhaps a wide receiver, and he could be a special
Speaker 2: teams player. So I think the Chiefs can rest easy
Speaker 2: now they have found their weapon for Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 2: we move into another successful season.
Speaker 3: We do, I mean kind of a perfect landing spot,
Speaker 3: just because it's completely a mystery how he'll be used,
Speaker 3: and you'd kind of trust they'll find a way. He's
Speaker 3: six three played for the Gloucester rugby squad Gloucester Gloucester
Speaker 3: because I knew that's how I say it, because when
Speaker 3: I did live in England, there was this nursery rhyme
Speaker 3: going around the time. I mean it was it was ancient,
Speaker 3: but it was in the early seventies. Yeah, and like
Speaker 3: my brother used to say it, but it was doctor
Speaker 3: Foster went to Gloucester in a puddle of rain. I
Speaker 3: don't know any I don't know the second line, but
Speaker 3: he visits the queen and does a bunch of other
Speaker 3: stuff and there's a cat involved at some point, I think.
Speaker 3: But so that he played for that where that nurseryrhyme
Speaker 3: took place, he played rugby for that group, and Nanny's
Speaker 3: fast like I don't know. There have been a few
Speaker 3: rugby players during our time in NFL that have tested
Speaker 3: the waters and it kind of worked and kind of didn't.
Speaker 3: But I think it's they're all in a better position
Speaker 3: in like the player Pathway program is.
Speaker 2: I had a quoting. I had an ex girlfriend in
Speaker 2: college up in Boston that was a big fan of
Speaker 2: a seafood restaurant in Gloucester, Gloucester, Massachusetts. She had a
Speaker 2: lot of seafood which is on the north shore and
Speaker 2: mass for people that are from there. I believe it
Speaker 2: was called the Rudder. So if you, uh, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's opened anymore. It's twenty years ago now,
Speaker 2: but check out the Rudder.
Speaker 3: Send us a photo if you check it.
Speaker 1: Out, please do all right?
Speaker 2: E Oh so so we'll see and shout out to
Speaker 2: Henry Hotson because future commissioner. It's a interesting I think
Speaker 2: this is the next step for the NFL. You look
Speaker 2: at a sport like baseball, just populated by so many
Speaker 2: players from throughout throughout the glove. I'm wearing my opening
Speaker 2: day for the Yankees and the rest of MLB. This
Speaker 2: is the Dugout, which is the bar where my brother
Speaker 2: Kevin Danger works in the Bronx, right outside Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: So go say hi to them at the Dugout if
Speaker 1: you're a Yankee fan.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the NFL wants to continue to bring in
Speaker 2: these international players and make it a global sport.
Speaker 1: And we'll see how it's like.
Speaker 3: There are large people and fast people in places outside
Speaker 3: of America, so it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the NBA.
Speaker 2: I mean, geez, my goodness, we're going to take the
Speaker 2: gold home even anywhere in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Mark let us know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's a great question. I'm
Speaker 3: not like a finally, like the Dream Team days, we
Speaker 3: may be in our place beyond that at this point.
Speaker 2: Uh media minute, the Eagles will open the season and
Speaker 2: send Paolo Brazil on the Peacock Network. So all those
Speaker 2: things you saw with a playoff game last year, it
Speaker 2: was the Bills Dolphins.
Speaker 1: That game was also on Peacock. Chiefs Dolphins, Chiefs Dolph.
Speaker 3: Is that our fourth coldest NFL game ever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this game, if you want to check out
Speaker 2: the Eagles, will be on Peacock. Amazon will also get
Speaker 2: a wild card game, so they will get that game
Speaker 2: like last year's game at Arrowhead, hopefully better weather. By
Speaker 2: the way, there was some news that came out. This
Speaker 2: is not obviously anything. Oh do you want to hit?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Eric, It's time for the late I was
Speaker 5: always forget the script.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you got it.
Speaker 5: It's time for the latest edition of the Media Minute
Speaker 5: with Dan Hans's very good at P. You know, when
Speaker 5: I played it, I totally was like, damn, I have
Speaker 5: no idea what I'm supposed to say.
Speaker 1: You know what you do after the show, this would
Speaker 1: be a good thing. Go record it with this right,
Speaker 1: and then you hit the drop and there it is.
Speaker 1: We have the technology. I do I have to say,
Speaker 1: I do like ETP struggling through it a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's part of the fun. So let's
Speaker 3: not do that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So Amazon gets the wild Card game and peak out.
Speaker 2: This is the future, man, this is they're going to
Speaker 2: play games overseas. More and more the streamers are going
Speaker 2: to get continue to get a piece. So that's what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: It's people. Certain people were freaking out over over especially
Speaker 3: the Eagles opener, like Matt Dog went nuts over it,
Speaker 3: and I kind of get it for certain. But these
Speaker 3: games are still available for people to watch. They're streamed
Speaker 3: elsewhere and like they I mean that you can get
Speaker 3: to without having just to get a subscription by the way,
Speaker 3: I mean it's on NFL Plus as well, which we
Speaker 3: are as well. But see, that's the thing that sounds
Speaker 3: like a very sound purchase, all right for anyone who's
Speaker 3: listening up on the third floor from this building. I
Speaker 3: couldn't be a bigger backer of the product.
Speaker 1: Finally, in the news, Hard Knocks News, my favorite football show.
Speaker 2: Colleen Wolf and the old Zuzzar have done a Hard
Speaker 2: Knocks podcast the past two summers. Hopefully we'll do it
Speaker 2: again with a team to be named later here in
Speaker 2: the Bears being floated this year now, since twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: they've had a strict set of rules in place for
Speaker 2: who is Hard Knocks quote unquote eligible, and they've changed
Speaker 2: it this year for the first time, so it used
Speaker 2: to be teams can avoid being selected for Hard Knocks
Speaker 2: that they qualify in one of three things, no head
Speaker 2: coach change. They've been on the show in the last
Speaker 2: ten years, or they've made the playoffs in each of
Speaker 2: the last two years. Either of the last years, which
Speaker 2: always felt like a weird one. They got rid of that,
Speaker 2: so no longer is that a rule. Now it is
Speaker 2: first year head coach in place. They're participating in the
Speaker 2: NC show during the upcoming year or the following season,
Speaker 2: and then they knocked it down to have appeared on
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks in the past eight years. The other change
Speaker 2: that they're making is the in season Hard Knocks, which
Speaker 2: by the way, that opens up from three to sixteen
Speaker 2: teams now eligible. With With that change about the playoff
Speaker 2: teams no longer being impacted, the n season Hard Knocks
Speaker 2: is reportedly going to a division format, which is worth
Speaker 2: a try.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I kind of like that only because I thought when
Speaker 3: they had the cults on in season, and I think
Speaker 3: in season's tough to deal with when you're like I've.
Speaker 1: Found that as a huge Hard knocksent.
Speaker 2: I've always found that challenging just because you're in the
Speaker 2: season and there's so much other football to take in.
Speaker 2: What makes the offseasons training cap one so special is
Speaker 2: that it's when you're you're most starved and excited for
Speaker 2: football season.
Speaker 1: It's just perfectly timed.
Speaker 3: I always thought, yeah, I think the Division one works though,
Speaker 3: because just a lot more happening, and I don't know
Speaker 3: that for me that that might solve that that shows
Speaker 3: is you in in season, but.
Speaker 2: It also covers you if if the team falls out
Speaker 2: of contention right or there's not a lot of juice.
Speaker 3: So I think I think you're onto something. With the Bears,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they seem like they would well,
Speaker 3: I think it's certain teams just if they're if they
Speaker 3: embrace the concept, like it's good for Matt Eberflus, for
Speaker 3: people to know more about Matt Eberflus. You do you
Speaker 3: would have a rookie quarterback, that's a lot of heat
Speaker 3: on them. But they did with the Browns and Baker
Speaker 3: and others as well. But now it's like that could
Speaker 3: the Texans or someone like that be And it's like
Speaker 3: a lot of intriguing concepts.
Speaker 2: All right, well see what happens and we'll be all
Speaker 2: over that. When the announcement comes out. That's what's happening
Speaker 2: in the news. Let's take a break and then welcome
Speaker 2: in an old friend.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Heat and Light Podcast. I am
Speaker 3: your co host, Mark Sessler, joined as always by my
Speaker 3: co host Connor. Or and Connor, we're equal co host
Speaker 3: just I think that just that the people understand the
Speaker 3: power structure were equal well co hosts.
Speaker 6: That's always how when we set out to do this
Speaker 6: a long time ago and informed people about the ways
Speaker 6: of the world, that's how we set it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it, you know it. It creates a
Speaker 3: sense of partnership there. I you know, we often when
Speaker 3: I see you, we're on the road because you don't
Speaker 3: live here in La and I don't live where you live,
Speaker 3: and so you're a man that travels, uh to and fro.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to in your reporting days to
Speaker 3: Antarctica to cover any sort of a story.
Speaker 6: No, because I know the true dangers that that exists there.
Speaker 6: I mean, beyond beyond the ice and snow. Uh, there's
Speaker 6: a good chance that we're looking at deep cities beneath
Speaker 6: the caverns of ice, potentially a group of you know,
Speaker 6: crystal people, something dealing with the future of energy and
Speaker 6: deep government secrets.
Speaker 7: So I try to stay away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I could see why you would. You know,
Speaker 3: you aren't you know, alone in your concerns about this
Speaker 3: part of the world, And I was doing some reading.
Speaker 3: We'd like to deep dive into these subjects. And this
Speaker 3: kind of tracks back to the winter of nineteen forty seven,
Speaker 3: when Admiral Richard E. Byrd claimed on a trip to
Speaker 3: Antarctica to discover a massive, like hundreds foot wide hole
Speaker 3: that when he sunk his plane into it, essentially found
Speaker 3: that the ice and snow disappeared. It was a lush, warm,
Speaker 3: forested world with animals that had not been seen by
Speaker 3: the human eye. To your point, these crystal palaces. He
Speaker 3: met someone called the Master that warned the Earth about
Speaker 3: nuclear technology. Connor, I want to just let you know,
Speaker 3: because you know we're here today not just to drag
Speaker 3: up old information, but I actually.
Speaker 4: So new.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back, and yes, as promised, we're
Speaker 2: going to bring in one of our very favorite men,
Speaker 2: a long time buddy, also a former colleague and a
Speaker 2: great damn journalist, Connor Or, Welcome back to around the NFL.
Speaker 1: Always great, Thanks.
Speaker 7: For having me, fellas.
Speaker 6: It's great to fully realize the part three of my plan,
Speaker 6: which is to take Greg's spot and exact an exact,
Speaker 6: a full one to eighty revenge from back when he
Speaker 6: was my boss at NFL Media.
Speaker 3: A lot of Greg Boss talked today. I think that
Speaker 3: that sewed it up well right.
Speaker 2: Now and almost like a lot of either revenge or
Speaker 2: plotting against him. It's it's almost like he's made enemies
Speaker 2: along the way, but he's on a well earned vacation,
Speaker 2: maybe a permanent one perhaps based on this appearance. Connor,
Speaker 2: how are you, buddy, what's new in the life of mister.
Speaker 7: Or what's happening?
Speaker 6: You know, everything is good, just just dealing with a
Speaker 6: lot of flooding and power outages here in western New Jersey.
Speaker 6: But we're living the life. It's rustic out here.
Speaker 2: We've had a lot of storms as well, and poor
Speaker 2: weather and more coming in here in southern California, which
Speaker 2: is very unusual.
Speaker 1: I wonder what that's all about.
Speaker 2: Maybe something for you guys to discuss on your whenever
Speaker 2: you come back with your famous offshoot podcast, The Heat
Speaker 2: and Light Pud whenever, that that might be a good topic.
Speaker 3: When struggling for the name of the show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, call it what it was.
Speaker 1: Please thank you?
Speaker 2: All right with Connor here, we we like to dive
Speaker 2: in and connect with our audience over on the mail
Speaker 2: bag side. And as always a disclaimer, if this doesn't
Speaker 2: go well as a segment, it is not on us,
Speaker 2: not at all, It is on you.
Speaker 3: We typically have to save it, you know, out of
Speaker 3: the gate.
Speaker 1: Right, So either either.
Speaker 2: The sessions weren't good enough or people that are listening
Speaker 2: to be like this, this segment sucks.
Speaker 1: Well, did you send in a question? So it's really uh,
Speaker 1: it's we're just calling calling it like we see it,
Speaker 1: being honest with the listeners.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got a man up some time.
Speaker 2: And if one segment swims beautifully, well that's that's me
Speaker 2: and Mark and Connor just being professionals and being broadcasters.
Speaker 2: So now that the everything's set, uh, let's hit the
Speaker 2: first question. It is from Brandon Lorie.
Speaker 1: Uh. I like his handle. Brandon is right, but w
Speaker 1: R I t e Uh.
Speaker 2: If you had absolute control over the competition committee, what
Speaker 2: rule changes would you make? I like this one, Connor,
Speaker 2: I thought, and we you know, we gave the NFL
Speaker 2: some flowers on our Tuesday show in that the league
Speaker 2: and West always said this. The league has never been
Speaker 2: shy about taking chances to improve the product and make changes.
Speaker 2: Not all of them work, but at least you give them.
Speaker 2: Give them at I will say my long standing Connor
Speaker 2: call for more protection for the officials on personal fouls,
Speaker 2: for roughing the passer, for defenseless receiver. The game move
Speaker 2: so fast that getting more help there and from upstairs
Speaker 2: would only help.
Speaker 1: But that's one for me.
Speaker 6: What about you, I've long been so I'll blame Tom
Speaker 6: Pellisero for this.
Speaker 1: I love Tom, the pell Raiser himself, the.
Speaker 6: Pell Raiser, like maybe it was last year or the
Speaker 6: year before, had had noted accurately.
Speaker 1: You know how.
Speaker 6: The NFL was really considering the fourth and fifteen on
Speaker 6: side kick alternative, and I prepared so much content on
Speaker 6: my end based on just blind excitement, all the possibilities
Speaker 6: and to have it be and again this is a
Speaker 6: knock on. Like Tom knows more about football than I
Speaker 6: could ever hope to know, and the inside mechanisms of it,
Speaker 6: but got me so excited for it, and then to
Speaker 6: have it never happen was such a letdown.
Speaker 7: And it's the perfect rule.
Speaker 6: And for those who don't know, right it was the
Speaker 6: in lieu of an onside kick. You can go for
Speaker 6: it on your own twenty five yard line and it's
Speaker 6: a fourth and fifteen basically, and if you lose possession,
Speaker 6: the other team basically gets the ball right inside the
Speaker 6: red zone. NFL owners who don't have Josh Allen and
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes are terrified of this and they won't vote
Speaker 6: for it because most of their quarterbacks suck, and I
Speaker 6: understand that, but just imagine like the entire cottage industry
Speaker 6: that could be built around that single play. Like you
Speaker 6: could find like a massive, like Cam Newton type human
Speaker 6: being who's only really valuable for that play where he
Speaker 6: can just like carry a bunch of bodies for fifteen
Speaker 6: yards or like but maybe throw a pass.
Speaker 7: It's like, there's so.
Speaker 6: Many amazing things that could happen just by virtue of
Speaker 6: that moment, and you could get these great NBA jam
Speaker 6: type moments where maybe these teams are hitting two or
Speaker 6: three of these in a row and they're bonkers, and
Speaker 6: you can't do that with the non site kick.
Speaker 3: And the Eagles particularly have been trying for this for years.
Speaker 3: I think it's like ten years in a row or something,
Speaker 3: and no one. I think there is some fear out there.
Speaker 1: You're right, and I just want to add one other thing.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Mark, did you have one?
Speaker 3: I have two quick ones, yes, one, because I know
Speaker 3: I don't claim to come up with everything on my own.
Speaker 3: This is we'd mentioned Dave Danishak earlier. I always thought
Speaker 3: this was the most ingenious concept to prevent tanking, to
Speaker 3: prevent teams taking a dirt nap, and you know folding
Speaker 3: tent for the last month plus of a season. Is
Speaker 3: that you take the two worst teams that are vying
Speaker 3: for the number one pick and you have them square off.
Speaker 3: And in this case, the timing of this would be unusual,
Speaker 3: but I thought maybe just a little Wednesday in between
Speaker 3: the wild card and divisional round.
Speaker 1: Not everyone need to track it. Well, we have Wednesday
Speaker 1: football now, so that checks out.
Speaker 3: That fits like a glout. They they would play each
Speaker 3: other and the winner gets the number one pick. So
Speaker 3: it's like you you have to fight right down to
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 1: Uh, we could do it you know where, and you
Speaker 1: could do it.
Speaker 2: Actually, you could slot it in in the old Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl spot that's Sunday before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I thought about that, except that you're asking like a
Speaker 3: team to they're kind of like doing the college thing
Speaker 3: where you're off for like twenty something days or something.
Speaker 2: Well, don't finish amongst the worst two league, stay out,
Speaker 2: stay out of the toilet bowl.
Speaker 3: Here's my other one. Yeah, this would this would take
Speaker 3: you're talking about fear, This would take the opposite. No
Speaker 3: commercial breaks. We get through these games in about an
Speaker 3: hour and forty five minutes, and it's a it just okay, Well,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I'm trying to think at what
Speaker 3: I want that would be what I want. All the
Speaker 3: dads at like DVR games and they wait like an
Speaker 3: hour and a half in to like fast forward, so
Speaker 3: they don't to deal with commercials.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't have to do it anymore. And
Speaker 1: you just want the games to end as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: And I get it.
Speaker 2: But uh, and all the people that are like, oh
Speaker 2: and let's get rid of the chain gangs, get off it.
Speaker 2: Can we in this world, this digital world where we're
Speaker 2: increasingly controlled by bots and robits and micro technology, can
Speaker 2: we just get a couple of bros with two sticks
Speaker 2: and a chain figure and something out still like, can
Speaker 2: we keep that? Can we keep that. Can we make
Speaker 2: the world simple in one way? That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: Count that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 6: Like does that if I'm breaking any news here? But
Speaker 6: there are computer chips in the chains, So when you're
Speaker 6: breaking news to the two of us when I don't
Speaker 6: know if a lot of people know this, but like
Speaker 6: whenever anyone's like they need to get rid of the
Speaker 6: chain gang, it's like like we have all this technology.
Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, the technology is in the chain, so
Speaker 6: we're good. Like, yeah, does sometimes does the chain break? Yeah,
Speaker 6: like once during the super Bowl I think, or it
Speaker 6: happened twice during the playoffs last year, if I can't remember,
Speaker 6: if I can remember correctly. But yeah, the the technology
Speaker 6: is in there, We're good.
Speaker 1: That is I mean, breaking news for the podcast. So
Speaker 1: thank you Connor and that, like I said in the intro,
Speaker 1: this is a very talented journalist.
Speaker 3: It is great sometimes to occasionally like the chain gang
Speaker 3: guy A or B you don't know which one gets
Speaker 3: you know, not paying attention, gets whacked by a player
Speaker 3: coming off the field, and it's just a delight to watch.
Speaker 1: Let's hit another question.
Speaker 2: We'll finish this in about two hours with this right,
Speaker 2: bo Brooks asks, will Jordan Love win more Super Bowls
Speaker 2: than Aaron Rodgers? Well, he just needs to win two.
Speaker 2: But there aren't a lot of quarterbacks that have ever
Speaker 2: won too. What do you think, Connor? He's got a
Speaker 2: bright future ahead of what he's already probably twenty five
Speaker 2: or twenty six, right, So you got that as well
Speaker 2: to consider.
Speaker 7: I say no.
Speaker 6: And the reason I do is because every time a
Speaker 6: team ends the season with some vague semblance of promise,
Speaker 6: we get on this just path of stupidity where we
Speaker 6: project things in an upward trajectory for no re like
Speaker 6: you know, oh they're young and contracts and I pretending
Speaker 6: to talk like a GM and everything works, and like
Speaker 6: it doesn't. We don't know how good the Packers are
Speaker 6: going to be. They'll clip this and they'll show this
Speaker 6: to me at the combine next year, I'm sure, but.
Speaker 1: I don't know how hard too.
Speaker 6: I don't know how good the Packers are going to
Speaker 6: be in the future. But like winning two Super Bowls
Speaker 6: for any quarterback that isn't you know this sort of
Speaker 6: you know colossus of a human talent like Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 6: or you know, Tom Brady or something like that it's difficult.
Speaker 7: It's hard, so I would say.
Speaker 3: No, And like the career of Aaron Rodgers kind of
Speaker 3: proves the point. He won one right away, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: he could win five or six, and you could say
Speaker 3: the Packers probably should have gotten there a number of times.
Speaker 3: But uh, tbduh.
Speaker 2: While we're here, Yeah, let's might as well address it,
Speaker 2: because we did play it on the show last week.
Speaker 2: I believe that in my opinion, Uh, an ambush by
Speaker 2: the general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jason light
Speaker 2: On Connor?
Speaker 1: Or do we have that? Let's play that.
Speaker 4: Hey, good Connor, how are you everything good? Yeah? We
Speaker 4: uh we have history. No, No, we just we won
Speaker 4: a lot more games than what he predicted us to
Speaker 4: get last Yes, yeah, it's for two. I haven't hanging up.
Speaker 4: I haven't hanging up in more.
Speaker 2: Office there it is, Connor, What was the the general
Speaker 2: vibe between you and light in that spot? Was there
Speaker 2: any real tension or was it all in good, good fun?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: It was it was funny.
Speaker 6: I mean, like so to kind of deal everybody back
Speaker 6: behind the curtain when you're at when you're at the combine.
Speaker 6: A lot of times like if the gms do the
Speaker 6: podium stuff and if you just want to have like
Speaker 6: a casual conversation with them and you know, not have
Speaker 6: it be quoted somewhere.
Speaker 7: Sometimes I'll ask to talk to a GM.
Speaker 6: Or a coach or if it's like a really niche
Speaker 6: question that I don't want to bother anybody, Like you know,
Speaker 6: you're trying to yell in a pack of people, you
Speaker 6: asked them off to the side.
Speaker 7: And so I asked.
Speaker 6: For Jason Light, thinking like we were talking off the record,
Speaker 6: and so we like, you know, everything gets shuttled. I
Speaker 6: never saw a camera, and so him and I are
Speaker 6: talking and like he brings it up, which every right
Speaker 6: to do it. I mean, it was a horrible decision
Speaker 6: on my part. I picked him to win two games
Speaker 6: they made the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But do you think it was a coordinated attack like
Speaker 2: they had they had this in mind that they were
Speaker 2: going to have this ready and they were going to
Speaker 2: play it up on social.
Speaker 6: See, this is what's wild to me, So they would
Speaker 6: have to assume that I was there, right, And then
Speaker 6: so I asked the PR guy. I was like, hey,
Speaker 6: can I get Jason just for a second, And he's like, yeah, no, problem.
Speaker 6: So then between Jason walking off the podium and then
Speaker 6: like traveling the eleven feet over to where I was standing,
Speaker 6: they had to have like briefed him on this and
Speaker 6: they flagged down a social media person concealed camera and
Speaker 6: then I tolosted five five days after it happened, which
Speaker 6: is like may it was like three days after happened.
Speaker 6: But that was the funniest part. Like I was, I
Speaker 6: was on a job with my neighbor and I get
Speaker 6: like text messages sent to my phone and like I'm
Speaker 6: getting dozens of text messages like I can't believe they
Speaker 6: did that.
Speaker 7: Are you okay?
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 6: Like people from high school that I hadn't talked to
Speaker 6: in you know, twenty years. And then I was like,
Speaker 6: like I have no idea it was filmed, and so
Speaker 6: I did. I did get a kick out of it.
Speaker 6: My parents liked it. Everyone thought it was funny.
Speaker 7: But it was just like in that moment, I was like,
Speaker 7: were you like hiding? Where was the camera? That's all
Speaker 7: I wanted to know, really, was like where where was
Speaker 7: the device? Who was filming it?
Speaker 6: And then like in the back of my head, I'm
Speaker 6: like Okay, is all the stuff that I asked him? Like,
Speaker 6: did they post that too? I don't know, but yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it's fine, We're good.
Speaker 1: So, as a Syracuse graduate one of the great programs
Speaker 1: of journalism in the country, you know the perils of
Speaker 1: gotcha journalism. I think that was really on turning it
Speaker 1: turning around on the reporter.
Speaker 3: Not too far away from like muck raking journalism, which
Speaker 3: is danger of its own.
Speaker 1: But I would say, in some ways fair play by
Speaker 1: Light and company.
Speaker 6: Here's my thing. Now, you've created the public ripe about
Speaker 6: my season predictions. Every year from here on out, I'm
Speaker 6: going to predict you to win sixteen games, and so
Speaker 6: what would you rather live up to that? Or would
Speaker 6: you rather have poor little?
Speaker 2: You know what I see where you're coming from that.
Speaker 2: But I also have to say, just respectfully, don't let
Speaker 2: them impact your true feelings, because that means you're going
Speaker 2: to end up adjusting all of your win total for
Speaker 2: all their opponents. Where you might autoty it might be
Speaker 2: a swing of eight to ten games in your actual mindset,
Speaker 2: don't let them win, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I hope that Light approaches you at every future. Combine
Speaker 3: with the similar, you know, yes or no scenario?
Speaker 1: All right, Next, Daniel Crespo asks, every year there is
Speaker 1: always a team that surpasses expectations. Who do you think
Speaker 1: will be the surprise teams of the NFC and AFC.
Speaker 1: So we're you know, who are the Texans this year?
Speaker 1: Who are the Rams this year? What do you think? Mark?
Speaker 3: You know, I was looking at the list and there
Speaker 3: there aren't a lot of great options here. NFC. I
Speaker 3: thought that maybe the Commanders. I thought they've added a
Speaker 3: lot of interesting pieces. I think Quinn has experienced, You're not.
Speaker 3: It's not a total fill in the blank on what
Speaker 3: kind of persona he is. We kind of know that
Speaker 3: they have the chance to add a quarterback that could
Speaker 3: make a big difference out of the gate if you
Speaker 3: play as well. So it was that for me in
Speaker 3: the NFC. In the AFC, I think the x this
Speaker 3: was tougher because, like I was looking at last year's
Speaker 3: record and like the Chargers won five games, yet expectations
Speaker 3: seem high because of her and your quarterback. So that's
Speaker 3: my answer there. I just didn't see a lot of
Speaker 3: other options.
Speaker 1: Although you know what, I'll.
Speaker 2: Throw them some flowers because I really did like their
Speaker 2: most recent move to get Snead in the building the Titans.
Speaker 2: If Levis does take a leap here, they have given
Speaker 2: him some structure so that team could surprise in the
Speaker 2: AFC if a couple things go their way.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Connor?
Speaker 6: I think the Colts are going to win the AFC
Speaker 6: South this year. I think the Colts are going to
Speaker 6: be really good. I think Anthony richards richards is going
Speaker 6: to be great. And if I were to pick a
Speaker 6: team in the NFC, okay, let's say surprise in air quotes,
Speaker 6: like if the Carolina Panthers go from a two win
Speaker 6: team to like an eight or a nine win team,
Speaker 6: would that be I think that would be a surprise
Speaker 6: generally given that they weren't really able to upgrade much
Speaker 6: this offseason.
Speaker 7: But I think there's gonna be a lot of improvement
Speaker 7: there too.
Speaker 2: What does Anthony Richardson learn from that cameo in terms
Speaker 2: of protecting himself but still remaining a dangerous out. I
Speaker 2: think it's a big time subplot around the Colts because
Speaker 2: he's got to stay healthy for them to make that
Speaker 2: leap next now, bag all right, this from Simon King
Speaker 2: is West Broms are you aware of what's going on
Speaker 2: with around the NFL and West Bromwich the soccer team.
Speaker 6: Connor vague vaguely like, I remember learning about this dishwasher
Speaker 6: man from this podcast, so I do like I'm sort
Speaker 6: of bally in the know here.
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, a guy in my fantasy football league owns
Speaker 1: this team, and so now they are the football team
Speaker 1: of atn But anyway, so is West Brom's boiler man
Speaker 1: mascot better than every mascot in the NFL. So for
Speaker 1: people and you're watching YouTube, you can see, but it's
Speaker 1: quite literally a boiler that you would find in your
Speaker 1: basement or on the side of your house or what
Speaker 1: have you, with legs and arms sticking out, and that
Speaker 1: is a wild mascot.
Speaker 2: And Boying Boying I support everything they do. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say that is a great mascot. In terms of
Speaker 2: best mascot in the NFL, I have three.
Speaker 1: I really like kind of he doesn't get a lot
Speaker 1: of pop, But I like Steely mcbeam of the Steelers.
Speaker 3: Does any mascot get a lot of pop? I feel
Speaker 3: like they kind of.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one.
Speaker 2: Jackson Deville of the jaz right, that is yeah, he
Speaker 2: is probably the uh, the biggest star of the moment
Speaker 2: in that world. But I also like and I met
Speaker 2: him at the International Series and him very nice man
Speaker 2: or slash creature Captain Fear of the Buccaneers. Also, I
Speaker 2: quite enjoy him. Anybody have a spot mascot, take.
Speaker 7: Sir per and I'll say, why they they? I don't
Speaker 7: know why the Panthers Panthers.
Speaker 6: The there's like a there's like a Panthers in house
Speaker 6: video from like nine years ago that I recently stumbled
Speaker 6: on where he's just in the office doing regular cat stuff.
Speaker 7: Nice and it is.
Speaker 6: It's so funny and I watch it probably once a week.
Speaker 6: So Sir Perr is awesome. A quick sub question, is
Speaker 6: your friend who owns West brom like like a Packers
Speaker 6: fan who says he owns the Packers or is this
Speaker 6: a real like you're you're in a fantasy football league
Speaker 6: with like a billionaire.
Speaker 2: The second one whoa Yeah, his name is Sheelyn Patel
Speaker 2: and he is seen as a savior by the fans
Speaker 2: of the Boy.
Speaker 1: And Boy cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And before we move on, if you're going to
Speaker 2: bring up Sir Perr and the Panthers, you got to
Speaker 2: hit us with one, Connor hit us with one piled.
Speaker 1: In next never gets old? Can we cut that as
Speaker 1: a drop? Thank you? Eric?
Speaker 2: At py Guy, Tomlinson asks, with Christmas so far away,
Speaker 2: does Connor watch Hallmark films through the years with different events,
Speaker 2: I e. Valentine's, summer holidays, the fourth of July and
Speaker 2: what have you? A great question people that are maybe
Speaker 2: new to the show and don't know that Connor every
Speaker 2: Christmas comes on. He and his wife are religious about,
Speaker 2: no pun intended about watching every Hallmark type holiday film
Speaker 2: they can get their eyes on, starting I believe the
Speaker 2: day after Thanksgiving or maybe the day after Halloween.
Speaker 1: Something insane like that day after Halloween.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is insane, but I love you for who
Speaker 2: you are, and then all the way through to the
Speaker 2: Christmas and it does it carry over to other holidays?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 6: So it's funny about that is my Hallmark obsession has
Speaker 6: now It's created like shockwave effects through my immediate family,
Speaker 6: and so my in laws have it on all the time,
Speaker 6: and so every time we go over there for dinner
Speaker 6: now it is on like twenty four hours a day,
Speaker 6: and so by virtue of that, we have now become
Speaker 6: aware of and are very much fans of. Sort of
Speaker 6: there's like a New Year's collection, a Valentine's collection, a
Speaker 6: Spring collection, a summer collection with kind of all your
Speaker 6: favorite stars, and they just sort of spin.
Speaker 7: It forward into different times a year, which is great.
Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about as a side job writing
Speaker 3: reviews for the vibrant publication TV guide?
Speaker 6: Okay, I think that my reviews of Hallmark movies would
Speaker 6: be so glowing that coming from me, it would be
Speaker 6: interpreted as like a very mean satire, right, And it's
Speaker 6: really not like. There was that really well meaning, lovely
Speaker 6: woman from like the Dakotas who reviewed an olive Garden
Speaker 6: like ten years ago, do you remember this? And there
Speaker 6: was never like an olive garden in her like state,
Speaker 6: and she reviewed it as if it were this like
Speaker 6: breathtaking five star Italian restaurant, and everyone made fun of her.
Speaker 7: She was like in her seventies, but that's she was serious.
Speaker 7: She loved it.
Speaker 6: And imagine having an olive garden breadstick for the first
Speaker 6: time in your seventies, Like it's unbelievable. Yeah, So I
Speaker 6: think that it would probably come off a little bit
Speaker 6: like that, and I I would be worried about affecting
Speaker 6: my current relationship with Hallmark, which is very good.
Speaker 1: I think that's very fair.
Speaker 2: I do feel like watching a spring like springtime version
Speaker 2: of that type of that's like scrape in the bottom
Speaker 2: of the barrel, like what is the hook of your
Speaker 2: what is your hook?
Speaker 1: At that point?
Speaker 3: Well, they don't, they don't. There's a lot of people
Speaker 3: involved in the productions, actors, actresses, directors, camera people.
Speaker 1: They don't right, Like, what's the inciting moment? Like the
Speaker 1: trees are blooming all right? At t mac asks where
Speaker 1: do the Vikings land on the pain rankings? And why
Speaker 1: are we cursed? What spirit walks the halls of US
Speaker 1: Bank Stadium? A true unsolved mystery.
Speaker 2: Now, fans of the show know that I have a real,
Speaker 2: I feel like a kinship with the Vikings and their fans.
Speaker 2: I'm again going to nominate them as team of Around
Speaker 2: the NFL, which feels like a curse in its own way.
Speaker 2: Good luck with that this season, especially if Sam's at QB.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna refrain from answering this one, guys, because I
Speaker 2: do think this summer on Around the NFL, We're going
Speaker 2: to revisit the pain rankings. Nine years after the publication
Speaker 2: on our fair site. But the vikings are still there.
Speaker 2: I'll put it there. I'll leave it there. Let's move on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, pain rankings, We're going to hit that this
Speaker 2: summer on this podcast.
Speaker 1: There's a tease. Next.
Speaker 2: Colin asks at Mets, speaking of cursed at Mets, please
Speaker 2: save me call here an opening day. The New York
Speaker 2: Mets aren't going to save you, Bud, I say that
Speaker 2: would love Well.
Speaker 3: We don't know when he created this handle, but it's
Speaker 3: never been successful unless you were unless you know, nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty six Worlds or something.
Speaker 2: All Right, Anyway, what under five hundred team in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three is under the most pressure in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: You know, the Jets jump out to me obviously, because
Speaker 2: they are so when you know they are so in
Speaker 2: for this season and there's so much pressure around Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers and making that work.
Speaker 1: Is there another team that I'm said to you mark
Speaker 1: as a high pressure team coming off a losing season.
Speaker 3: This was another one where I thought a lot of
Speaker 3: teams that were in turmoil, had coaching changes or have
Speaker 3: are about to draft quarterbacks where there's a fair amount
Speaker 3: of freshness or hope there. The Giant stood out to
Speaker 3: me because I think you're just in a situation where
Speaker 3: you went from coach of the year, playoff surprise playoff
Speaker 3: berth to you know, the owner speaking kind of hot
Speaker 3: and cold about day Ball and day Ball taking it
Speaker 3: very well. And I think Daball is a good coach.
Speaker 3: You might take over play calling duties. You know what's
Speaker 3: going on at quarterback. So I think the Giants are
Speaker 3: in these in a bit of a strange zone right now.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Connor?
Speaker 7: I would go?
Speaker 6: I don't know, this is good. I would go the
Speaker 6: Bears because if you think about what Ryan Poles has
Speaker 6: had going on, he's been able to like artfully keep
Speaker 6: extending the prestige moment where he has to show everyone
Speaker 6: what he's been working on, you know. And at some point,
Speaker 6: you know, I certainly if they don't win this year,
Speaker 6: you replaced the head coach. I was under my like November,
Speaker 6: I thought they were replacing the head coach. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, there was a lot of people who did,
Speaker 6: so I think if they don't, if they don't win,
Speaker 6: your at least replacing the head coach. And I think
Speaker 6: at some point people start wondering, Okay, is this is
Speaker 6: this the right thing for a GM as well?
Speaker 1: And I'll throw the Falcons out there as well.
Speaker 2: This is a team that has been trying to get
Speaker 2: back and trying to you know, work their way back
Speaker 2: to being a truly relevant team, and they've had pieces
Speaker 2: around the last few years, but then the quarterback kind
Speaker 2: of killed them. Now they have the quarterback that they
Speaker 2: have to develop a defense around the QB and we're
Speaker 2: going to see if they can because Arthur Blank obviously
Speaker 2: is counting on this team returning to the playoffs. I
Speaker 2: think with Cousins, given the amount of money they gave
Speaker 2: the quarterback. All right, next, AFC East, where is it going?
Speaker 2: Have Buffalo and Miami peaked? How long will the New
Speaker 2: England rebuild take? Whither the Jets? All right, let's I
Speaker 2: that's a good one. Connor Wake what the New England rebuild?
Speaker 2: We already we know the Jets are very high low.
Speaker 2: We don't know where they're gonna fall, so they're a
Speaker 2: tough one to figure out. Obviously, the Patriots are team
Speaker 2: very clearly in a rebuild. I am very interested to see.
Speaker 2: I guess I still think Buffalo is a playoff team.
Speaker 2: Are they a top echelon team and the Dolphins to
Speaker 2: me are one of the biggest mysteries in the league.
Speaker 6: If I had to, if I had to handicap the
Speaker 6: division today, I would probably say that Buffalo wins the
Speaker 6: division the Jets come in second, because I do think
Speaker 6: even though it's a high low, I really do think
Speaker 6: Robertsal is a good coach. I think that he's able
Speaker 6: to I mean, to get seven wins or whatever they
Speaker 6: did out of that team last year was pretty phenomenal,
Speaker 6: and then I would see it being Miami third and
Speaker 6: New England a pretty distant fourth. I just think that
Speaker 6: what Miami conceptually is trying to do, it works, but
Speaker 6: it does not work for the entirety of a season.
Speaker 6: And I just think they're a little bit fundamentally flawed.
Speaker 6: Like I think that they need to develop more of
Speaker 6: a power element, and I think the drop off at
Speaker 6: DC this offseason is pretty stark.
Speaker 2: And you would it's a very you know what, I
Speaker 2: respect because you're hanging onions with your annual preseason. You know,
Speaker 2: guess of everyone's schedule. You go through every schedule and
Speaker 2: pick every game. You got dinked a little bit on
Speaker 2: the Patriots as well this season, So you're not going
Speaker 2: to be in on New England in twenty four.
Speaker 6: It sounds like, Yeah, Chris Broussard called me foolish on Fox,
Speaker 6: which was something that everyone really liked.
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, and hey, you put yourself
Speaker 1: out there for a living man. Yeah, you know, people
Speaker 1: need to respect you for that.
Speaker 6: And it's one of those things where like all my
Speaker 6: friends were texting me after the Jason Light thing and
Speaker 6: they're like, oh my god, I can't believe how well
Speaker 6: you're handling it. My wife's like, I really can't believe
Speaker 6: how well you're handling it, And like, inside my mind,
Speaker 6: I am plotting, like I'm reading every reply and I'm
Speaker 6: plotting the absolute demise. Like someone put the Curb your
Speaker 6: Enthusiasm music on and I was like, I'm gonna find
Speaker 6: where that person is, Like I'm gonna find their house,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna disconnect the power lines.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna just let you know, I'm gonna start moving
Speaker 7: chairs around at night while they're sleeping.
Speaker 6: Like it gets it, you know, the violence of the
Speaker 6: old or you kidding me?
Speaker 7: Connor is still very.
Speaker 1: Much alive in there. I love that guy.
Speaker 6: I love that guy, so that the all two seventy
Speaker 6: two predictions is a tough It's a tough thing.
Speaker 3: How long does that take? I mean, are you just
Speaker 3: kind of rip it going off the top of your head?
Speaker 3: Are you just you're going It takes a really long time.
Speaker 6: And then every year I get done and I have
Speaker 6: like two hundred and seventy four wins and two hundred
Speaker 6: and seventy losses, and then you have to go through
Speaker 6: every gersh darn game again and try to figure.
Speaker 7: Out Oh yeah, it's an absolute nightmare. Yeah, it's the worst.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I struggled enough when I did the power rankings and
Speaker 2: I was coming up to the list of thirty two,
Speaker 2: and I kept on being either a thirty three or
Speaker 2: thirty one, as like, am I missing?
Speaker 1: Who did I put in here? Twice? It would like
Speaker 1: stop me down for half an hour.
Speaker 6: I don't even know how you One year I got
Speaker 6: I did all the records on like loose leaf paper,
Speaker 6: and I turned them in and they were accurate, and
Speaker 6: then I threw them away.
Speaker 7: And then like a week.
Speaker 6: Later, my boss was like, hey, the social team wants
Speaker 6: to post the individual records, and so you have to
Speaker 6: go and I was.
Speaker 7: Like, I don't even know like that.
Speaker 6: That would be like backtracking the equation for like the
Speaker 6: black hole, and so I literally had to start completely
Speaker 6: over again.
Speaker 7: And it was yeah, I was, I was, I was
Speaker 7: a bad.
Speaker 3: And he's got floods happening. The basement's flooding, there's weather,
Speaker 3: there's no warriors.
Speaker 2: All right, a couple more questions to take a break,
Speaker 2: and then we'll finish up with Connor. All Right, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, welcome back, Connor. Thank you for taking a
Speaker 2: crack at that one we've been See it's like that
Speaker 2: when I got floored by that. When you're wing a
Speaker 2: task is storing of you. We realize it's a bit
Speaker 2: of thorny.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Let's hear Mark's attempt.
Speaker 3: All Right, we're back showing us continuing.
Speaker 1: Do we have Colleen's excuse me? Do you have gregs?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: Everybody?
Speaker 3: What is so hard about it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I take it as a good
Speaker 2: sign that it's not an easy thing to imitate. That's
Speaker 2: how I look at it personally. No, you've perfected it.
Speaker 2: We're just chasing. We're chasing your abilities on that one.
Speaker 2: All Right, we're back a couple more questions and then
Speaker 2: we'll say goodbye for the week. When fellas asks, are
Speaker 2: the Texans more likely to regress or progress in twenty
Speaker 2: four I think Connor, that kind of hits on something
Speaker 2: you said earlier. The wide assumption, the widely held assumption
Speaker 2: seems to be the Texans are going to make that
Speaker 2: leap and be a powerhouse this year. But a lot
Speaker 2: of things have to go right for that to happen,
Speaker 2: and the development has to continue.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the draft is still ahead of us.
Speaker 2: I would say it's more likely that they do build
Speaker 2: on last year, but the grand assumption and in general,
Speaker 2: the idea of having a ton of expectations heaped on you,
Speaker 2: that could be that's a different vibe than they were
Speaker 2: last year as well, So there's a lot don't assume
Speaker 2: that's all.
Speaker 6: It's a different it's a different situation. And I remember,
Speaker 6: like would I would compare CJ. Stroud's theatrics towards the
Speaker 6: middle and the end of that season, like when the
Speaker 6: Rookie of the year candidacy really started to build through
Speaker 6: the end of that season, it was a lot like
Speaker 6: early Herbert And then I think we spent the last
Speaker 6: three years wondering when Herbert was going to elevate to
Speaker 6: this like more consistently theatrically incredible player, or when the
Speaker 6: offense was going to get built around him to be
Speaker 6: able to facilitate that. And I do think that, you know,
Speaker 6: we forget how amazing CJ. Stroud was situationally last year,
Speaker 6: and those performances are sometimes like a once in a
Speaker 6: every few years kind of thing, you know, and they don't.
Speaker 6: You don't always get him in back to back to
Speaker 6: back weeks, and we don't know if he's Steph Curry yet.
Speaker 6: He might be, But you know, I think the rest
Speaker 6: of that division is getting much better and will be
Speaker 6: a lot more challenging.
Speaker 3: They all have a different schedule that that starts right there.
Speaker 3: But I like the fact that Bobby Slowick wasn't hired
Speaker 3: away somewhere else, that there's consistency. I get worried about quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: good or bad, like when there's a lot of coordinator shifts.
Speaker 3: But they lost Tank Dell for a big chunk of
Speaker 3: time last year. They lost Stroud for for a bit
Speaker 3: for a spell and lost a game in the middle
Speaker 3: of all that. And I trust this coaching staff a lot,
Speaker 3: so they don't feel like a regression candidate to me
Speaker 3: the way that like a year ago, the Giants certainly
Speaker 3: seemed like they were the Vikings winning a billion like
Speaker 3: you know one score games, like they were legit thumping people.
Speaker 3: And I both, it's the balls a lot.
Speaker 1: To like all right?
Speaker 2: Next, oh from our body Dave Ealy from the newsroom. Hi, guys,
Speaker 2: first time, long time, okay with football? Not on what
Speaker 2: are y'all watching right now?
Speaker 1: He's from North Carolina. Excuse him? I know Greg was
Speaker 1: big into Love is Blind, any pop culture Rex.
Speaker 2: I will throw out a couple I am.
Speaker 1: I want to give some serious flowers in the podcast
Speaker 1: game to Rob Harvilla of The Ringer. He just recently
Speaker 1: completed his sixty Songs that help Explain the Nineties series
Speaker 1: that actually ballooned into one hundred and twenty songs that
Speaker 1: explained the nineties, and it was I thought it advanced
Speaker 1: the medium. But I will say it like that.
Speaker 2: He was a great, great storyteller, kind of an essayist,
Speaker 2: like where he wrote on not just the music and
Speaker 2: the song, but the you know, the era, but also
Speaker 2: his his personal experiences and being a lot of the
Speaker 2: reasons why like I do a music podcast with my
Speaker 2: buddy Bob, the throwback podcast where the music becomes the
Speaker 2: soundtrack for your adolescence and it brings it has this
Speaker 2: powerful nostalgia that kind of keeps you connected to it
Speaker 2: as you grew older. And he really I think Harvilla
Speaker 2: nailed that sentiment while also giving you a varied look.
Speaker 2: It started as I think more slanted towards alternative rock,
Speaker 2: which was my wheelhouse when I was a teenager. Hartville
Speaker 2: is a couple of years older, but it became as
Speaker 2: the show developed and progressed. Like our own podcast, it
Speaker 2: turned into something else and it was a deep dive
Speaker 2: into all different genres and a look a great look
Speaker 2: at music and life in general.
Speaker 1: So sixty songs that.
Speaker 3: By the way, what does what does wheelhouse mean?
Speaker 1: What do you mean was wheelhouse mean?
Speaker 3: What is the definition? I understand it means like it
Speaker 3: was a place that you thrived in int a certain time.
Speaker 3: But why is it called wheelhouse versus like hot zone
Speaker 3: or I don't know, I don't know. We can answer
Speaker 3: that another time.
Speaker 7: Beliek red Basket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Mark, I don't how about you?
Speaker 3: Mark feels mechanical? I think Connor might like this. This
Speaker 3: is I don't know how I stumbled upon this because
Speaker 3: I started watching it. Like it's on like HBO Max.
Speaker 3: But it's called Seeking Sister Wife, and it's these like
Speaker 3: couples that are trying to like find like a second
Speaker 3: or third or fourth mate, and it's it's they're not
Speaker 3: traditional like that's typically a Mormon thing. Yeah, I done those,
Speaker 3: but it's people just in society trying to do it,
Speaker 3: and it's like total chaos erupts. It's it's it's a
Speaker 3: roller coaster ride.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's on HBO. It's I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, the Serving Through four Thousand Things, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I'll give this one a shot and kind
Speaker 3: of pulled me in Sesta.
Speaker 2: Deep on HBO Max on a three AM. I could
Speaker 2: I could sense it. Calm down, gun, how about you, Connor?
Speaker 7: Can I do a book or is yeah anything.
Speaker 6: Like all right, yeah, he needs to bring back his
Speaker 6: Instagram cooking show.
Speaker 7: By the way, it was really uh it was fantastic.
Speaker 1: He'll be to know that you just cited that, so
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm halfway through Lonesome Dove, which is a
Speaker 6: book by Larry mcmurdy and it was it's known as
Speaker 6: Stephen King's favorite book ever, and it's from nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 6: It's it's like a classic western, but it won the
Speaker 6: Pulitzer that year, and it is the first book I
Speaker 6: think that I can ever remember that made me laugh
Speaker 6: out loud, like it's but it's there's a lot of things.
Speaker 6: It's like a western. There's drama, there's romance, there's like
Speaker 6: there's a mystery, there's a plot, and there's a lot
Speaker 6: of things about life.
Speaker 7: But it's also very very funny.
Speaker 6: So I would I would say, like Eli should read
Speaker 6: a damn book for once.
Speaker 1: So there you go, Dave.
Speaker 3: That was also a TV show for years. It had
Speaker 3: like look at this, Who's in this? It was a
Speaker 3: series Robert Duval, Tommy Lee Jones, Danny Glover, Diane Lane,
Speaker 3: and it goes on and on.
Speaker 1: Powerhouse Diane Lane, Special special person. All Right, one more.
Speaker 2: Eric Blasell asks what are your all time favorite sound
Speaker 2: drops from the show? Top three for me are hanging onions.
Speaker 5: You try to these onions, you'll like them, the real
Speaker 5: sweet onions.
Speaker 1: Hot butts acone always a favorite, and of course the
Speaker 1: great Chris Westling standard.
Speaker 2: It's about me, it's about those are all great. I
Speaker 2: love all those. I thought this would be a good occasion.
Speaker 2: I had really originally had asked Eric to send me
Speaker 2: a couple of my favorite Sessler isms, and that very
Speaker 2: quickly turned into we have to do a top ten
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler drops on the podcast.
Speaker 3: So maybe on maybe I just take that show off
Speaker 3: and that you can There'll be plenty of me as.
Speaker 2: Is, without further ado, the top ten Mark Sessler drops
Speaker 2: on around the NFL.
Speaker 3: Number ten, what manacured joke? Number nine, I'm having a
Speaker 3: weird day. Number eight, I'm annoyed. Now, Oh I love
Speaker 3: that one. I think that might be should be higher.
Speaker 3: I'll have to think about that.
Speaker 1: Number seven.
Speaker 3: I feel power prompted. That number six, I am begging
Speaker 3: you to shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that one. That's a good's that's classic. Number five.
Speaker 3: I always return, Yes, he does you know?
Speaker 2: That one brings me peace when I when I sometimes
Speaker 2: lose Mark, he's off the grid, I do I when
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: To myself, what does he always say? I always return?
Speaker 3: Probably was in response to a voice concern of yours.
Speaker 1: What are we at? Number four? Number four?
Speaker 3: Heavens to Betsy my grandmother used to say that that's right,
Speaker 3: pick that up.
Speaker 1: He says that after every time we use it, he explains.
Speaker 5: Why my grandma used to say that we.
Speaker 1: Need a drop to explain him explaining the drop. Number
Speaker 1: three metals stand.
Speaker 3: Check you later, brock.
Speaker 1: Number two good for you.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, let's get a little timpany drum here for
Speaker 2: the number one Mark Sessler drop. That is a you know,
Speaker 2: Eric the producer, when I said I need the good
Speaker 2: for you scream, he didn't know it was you.
Speaker 1: He didn't realize that's Mark's voice.
Speaker 3: It was a different version of me.
Speaker 5: I listened to it and I was like, because he's
Speaker 5: asking for Mark drops, and I'm like, is this can't
Speaker 5: be it? So I have to make sure And I'm like,
Speaker 5: that doesn't even sound like I'm in his explanation, A
Speaker 5: different period of Mark.
Speaker 1: A different Mark period.
Speaker 2: I'll give me a little timpany drum for the number
Speaker 2: one Mark Sessler drop on the Around the NFL podcast
Speaker 2: and so many choices, and thank you to.
Speaker 1: Everyone did it.
Speaker 3: Football is completely different than basketball. I knew that. I mean,
Speaker 3: that was going to be in the top ten. But
Speaker 3: thank you to everyone, thank you to me. I produced
Speaker 3: those ten sound bites.
Speaker 1: You sure did.
Speaker 3: So you know, let's start right there.
Speaker 1: Connor, you've said it all. Is there anything else you
Speaker 1: want to add?
Speaker 2: And he plugs anything you want to get out there,
Speaker 2: anything about yourself, your your family.
Speaker 1: Advice to that.
Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of listeners use this bully pulpit as
Speaker 2: you will.
Speaker 7: I would just say, you know, keep on keeping on.
Speaker 7: You know, I think that's.
Speaker 1: Uh spoken like a true dead End friends fan.
Speaker 7: Keep on, keep on trucking everybody.
Speaker 1: You know you're going to see Dead in Company at
Speaker 1: the Sphere in Vegas.
Speaker 6: Uh So, maybe I the Philly Show felt like the
Speaker 6: culmination of I had avoided seeing them for years. I
Speaker 6: had never seen them before, and they're my favorite band
Speaker 6: of all time. And then I saw them because it
Speaker 6: was like the final tour, and I brought my best
Speaker 6: friend with me, and we both are obsessed with it,
Speaker 6: and I was like, Okay, now it's over and that
Speaker 6: and that chapter of my life is done and it
Speaker 6: can't be any better than it was. And so part
Speaker 6: of me is like, do I spend nine hundred dollars
Speaker 6: to catapult myself back into Las Vegas after I just
Speaker 6: escaped and do it again I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, that'sure maturity.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think I have to let it go good.
Speaker 1: And finally, on opening Day in Major League Baseball, Baltimore
Speaker 1: Orioles over under ninety four and a half wins.
Speaker 6: Oh over. But I'll keep this very short. I finished
Speaker 6: the book about the Astros winning fixes everything, and I
Speaker 6: was like, my god, what a bunch of horrible people.
Speaker 7: And then at the end they're like, yeah, they're all
Speaker 7: running the oriole now, and I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 7: that sucks.
Speaker 6: So like I'm kind of like, I'm a little conflicted,
Speaker 6: you know, a little bit. You know, this is I
Speaker 6: would have rather just do it in a plucky way,
Speaker 6: but Maryland needs this right now. So I'm rooting for
Speaker 6: a big season the other All.
Speaker 1: Right, Connor, thank you, buddy, thank you. There he goes
Speaker 1: the legend himself. Mark.
Speaker 2: I will be now heading off on a vacation, and uh,
Speaker 2: you're really the anchor in a lot of ways here
Speaker 2: because I will leave, Greg will return, but you will
Speaker 2: be the calm in the storm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I vow that we will not be constructing
Speaker 3: any pranks with you at the center of it while
Speaker 3: you're on a vacation. I don't think the I think
Speaker 3: Delator just like Jason.
Speaker 2: Light fair play if there's any type of schemes that
Speaker 2: Greg wants to hatch.
Speaker 1: But I really it's not.
Speaker 2: I think the whole thing with the Delaware investigation, it's
Speaker 2: completely something that is a service to the audience.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think so one hundred percent. In like that
Speaker 3: across our studio, the football that you received from Clemson
Speaker 3: for your public service to apparently a group of people,
Speaker 3: the orphaned youth of that's what it's morphed into. But
Speaker 3: I would put this, George, what this investigation right over
Speaker 3: on that mantle two.
Speaker 1: All right, hit the music, Thank.
Speaker 2: You everybody for listening as always, and we will be
Speaker 2: back with two shows next week. You'll hear from us
Speaker 2: Tuesday atm We'll be back on Tuesday and then back
Speaker 2: to three times a week in the March to the
Speaker 2: draft till then hear the call