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Speaker 1: We're talking cold san recapping the action HYM sixty two yards. Now.

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Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor. Hey, good evening, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Coming up tonight. We'll be joined by interim head coach

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday here momentarily, and former Colts Rick Venturry and

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Speaker 1: Joe Ritz will join the show tonight. In segment number two.

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Speaker 1: The Cults are coming off a twenty to three loss

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers last night. The Colts turned their offense

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Speaker 1: over to Nick Foles at quarterback, and that unit couldn't

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Speaker 1: muster much momentum, the Colts produced just one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy three yards of offense. They failed to convert a

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Speaker 1: third down in a game for the second time this season.

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Speaker 1: The Colts went oh for ten on third down and unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Monday marked the eighth time this season the Colts have

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Speaker 1: scored one offensive touchdown or less in a game. Last

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Speaker 1: night was the fourth time this season with zero offensive touchdowns. Foles,

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Speaker 1: who was making his first start in a Colts uniform,

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Speaker 1: he threw three interceptions, He took seven sacks, and threw

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Speaker 1: for just one hundred and forty three yards. The seven

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Speaker 1: sacks allowed by the Colts pushes their season total up

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Speaker 1: to fifty six, tied for the fourth most in franchise

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Speaker 1: sixty two back in nineteen ninety seven. For the night,

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Speaker 1: the Colts defense played well, but certainly not well enough

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Speaker 1: considering the offensive troubles. The Colts racked up four sacks

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Speaker 1: by Quitty Pay which set up the Colts only trip

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Speaker 1: inside the Charger red zone. As a team, the Colts

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Speaker 1: now have forty three sacks on defense, which is only

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Speaker 1: a single season, which was forty six back in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five. And Monday Night marked the eighth time

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Speaker 1: this season the Colts allowed twenty points or less and

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Speaker 1: they're just three four and one in those games. It's

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Speaker 1: been that type of a season for the Colts. They've

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Speaker 1: now lost five in a row for the first time

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Speaker 1: since two seventeen, and they've dropped eight of nine and

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Speaker 1: now it's on to the New York Giants on New

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Speaker 1: Year's Day in week seventeen. As we said, starting on

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Speaker 1: the next segment, Colts analyst Rick Venturi and Joe Wrights

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Speaker 1: Night with Rick and Joe and also with interim head

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Speaker 1: coach Jeff's Saturday here coming up momentarily. You can tweet

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Speaker 1: in your questions to night using hashtag Colts Roundtable and

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Speaker 1: we'll squeeze in as many of those as we can tonight,

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Speaker 1: as we always do. And in per usual Jeff Saturday,

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Speaker 1: interim head coach of the Colts, he joins us now

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens Energy Group and Jeff another

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Speaker 1: difficult game to come to terms with Monday night against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. What made last night so difficult? To move

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Speaker 1: you know, third downs we were terrible. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: to sustain drives. And again there their opportunities to be

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Speaker 1: so the their their drives were sustained and they're keeping

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Speaker 1: just brought more problems throughout. Yeah, defensively giving up only

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Speaker 1: care of it. Colts Roundtable Live tonight. This is ninety

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Speaker 1: interim coach Jeff Saturday. I'm Matt Taylor. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: a handful of fan questions tonight. Coach again. If you

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Speaker 1: on tonight, Rick Venturi and Joe writes, Twitter is your

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Speaker 1: CJ is up first tonight coach will Nick Foles continue

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Speaker 1: to be the quarterback for the Colts in the final

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Speaker 1: two games. Yeah, I mean, there's no change right now. Again,

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Speaker 1: And so you know, we're hopefully that Nick, with his

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Speaker 1: it down, whether it's short yardage, whether it's you know, mediums,

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Speaker 1: ninety to ten in the fourth quarter. I tell you

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Speaker 1: what's really kind of a sidebar that's kind of sad

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Speaker 1: and we'll pay for it, is that Jim Ursay has

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Speaker 1: worked so hard, Matt and Joe and you know this

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Speaker 1: over the years to get us prime time games, you know,

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Speaker 1: particularly at home. He's so hard, and basically we've embarrassed ourselves,

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Speaker 1: you know, game after game in that regard. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, from from that regard, you know, I got

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Speaker 1: to think that you know, you know, we'll be lucky

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Speaker 1: if we're not playing at ten clock every morning, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, ten o'clock in the morning from

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Speaker 1: now on. But you know, our fourth war, our fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter woes kill us. I you know, I thought the

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Speaker 1: micro chasm of the season was the failure on fourth

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Speaker 1: and inches. You know, it's two weeks in a row,

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Speaker 1: you can't make a quarterback sneak, and then the ensuing

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Speaker 1: eighty eight yard drive for a touchdown, which just put

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Speaker 1: it away. And I mean, they did anything they wanted.

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Speaker 1: They started out running it, they threw it, they run it,

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Speaker 1: they walked in the end zone, and so really, really

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Speaker 1: and truly and all the numbers are there, the over

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Speaker 1: ten on third down, seven sacks, three turnovers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: folks had a three point four QBR, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then on defense Herbert again, even though it's not a

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Speaker 1: great day, it's twenty four or thirty one, I mean

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Speaker 1: we're we're second to last in the league and past

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Speaker 1: percentage and that's always a killer. That's seventy percent. That

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Speaker 1: means every time every ten times they throw, they hit seven.

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Speaker 1: You know, Alan catches eleven balls. I mean, how does

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Speaker 1: that happen when you know he's the top third down

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Speaker 1: guy in the league and the two red zone scores

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Speaker 1: in seven oh, So you know, to say it's all

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Speaker 1: on one group or another, it's really not. It's just

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Speaker 1: a very very difficult situation getting harder to watch every week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tail the tape right there with Rick then Terry Joe.

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Speaker 1: Anything else to add in terms of what you gleamed

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Speaker 1: from watching the game tape today, Cults and Chargers, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, really, when you go back

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Speaker 1: to the last couple of weeks and the Dallas game,

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Speaker 1: we were very competitive until the fourth quarter. The Minnesota game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there clearly was a hangover from the Minnesota game.

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Speaker 1: And you can call it that, you can call it

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Speaker 1: what you want, not being in the playoffs, but the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is, you know, the team just really didn't

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Speaker 1: even get off the mat to fight, is what I

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Speaker 1: thought overall in this ball game, And again coach mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: when you're oh a ten on third down, one to

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Speaker 1: four on fourth down, things aren't good. Three interceptions. We

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Speaker 1: thought Nick Foles might bring some juice in some life,

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Speaker 1: and he clearly was throwing the ball down the field,

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Speaker 1: but some of those throws were just completely ill advised.

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Speaker 1: You give up seven sacks, I think two big things

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Speaker 1: for me. Off offensively, again, we just struggled so so much.

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Speaker 1: We actually ran the ball decent fourteen for sixty nine

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Speaker 1: yards and five yards to carry, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: think we were intent on trying to prove that we

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Speaker 1: could throw the ball down the field, and we did,

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Speaker 1: but you can't throw the ball down the field into

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Speaker 1: double coverage. So I think again the offensive woes that

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Speaker 1: kind of ultimately led to break in the defense. But

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Speaker 1: I just felt like the spirit of the team, you know,

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Speaker 1: they really just didn't have the fight that they had

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Speaker 1: the two weeks before, and it was still a ball game.

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Speaker 1: I mean when the Chargers fumbled the ball and we

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Speaker 1: had that fourth and one right when the fourth quarter started,

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Speaker 1: it's a thirteen to three ball game. You're thinking we

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Speaker 1: score here, it's thirteen to ten. We're down by three.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with coach that kind of broke us

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Speaker 1: in that game. That kind of broke us in that season. Again,

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Speaker 1: in two weeks in a row, a fourth and one

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Speaker 1: conversion that could get you there. We change it up

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Speaker 1: schematically a little bit. We actually had Pittman motion to

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Speaker 1: kind of push, which I liked, but they knew everybody

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Speaker 1: in the world that was coming. I mean, Foals could

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Speaker 1: have pulled that ball and walked around off tackle into

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Speaker 1: the end zone. So it was just a It was

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Speaker 1: just a tough night. And I agree with coaches point.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jim has fought so hard to get back

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Speaker 1: to back Monday night football games, and for a lot

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Speaker 1: of years we were never at the home Monday night game,

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Speaker 1: which I don't agree with, especially as good as we were.

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Speaker 1: And then to kind of go and lay an egg

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Speaker 1: here after that Pittsburgh loss, that's just tough on the franchise.

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Speaker 1: With two games left, it is what it is right.

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Speaker 1: You're four to twelve and one, you're out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You're sitting here at fifth in the draft order right

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Speaker 1: now as the season starts from up at bottom. Minde,

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Speaker 1: there's still two games left to play, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's a bit of an embarrassment for some of those

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Speaker 1: players in the locker room because it's their jobs at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's those guys jobs, whether

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Speaker 1: it's an Indie thirty one other teams, because clearly there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be changes in this offseason. That's where you know,

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Speaker 1: I was just disappointed individually with some of the effort

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Speaker 1: from some of the guys last night. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Mean, there's a couple of certainties that

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Speaker 1: we know from this season going into next season. We

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Speaker 1: do know that the Colts are guaranteed to pick in

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Speaker 1: the top ten guardless of how the last couple of

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Speaker 1: games play out. We also know, to your guys's point,

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Speaker 1: the Colts are gonna play a boatload of one o'clock

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Speaker 1: games next year on Sunday afternoons because of the record

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Speaker 1: and not showing out in their primetime opportunities this year.

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Speaker 1: The Colts did have a couple more takeaways against the

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Speaker 1: Chargers too. In fact, so that means Colts fans can

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Speaker 1: All right, that's the tail of the tape. Here on

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Speaker 1: Colts Roundtable Live with Rick and Joe, I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna mix it up when we come back. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hand out ata boys and also go over the

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Speaker 1: heads scratchers coming up on the next segment, because the

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Speaker 1: Colts do have some players who are really coming on lately,

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Speaker 1: shining out and playing well individually, but they as a

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Speaker 1: team are also going through some questionable moments as well.

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Speaker 1: Venturi and Joe writes with you until seven o'clock tonight

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Speaker 1: before the Pacers take on the Hawks. And at this

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Speaker 1: point of the season, obviously the Colts have some young

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Speaker 1: players who are emerging and taking on bigger roles, and

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Speaker 1: also as a team, the Colts are still going through

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Speaker 1: some puzzling moments, some curious moments, so let's discuss both

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Speaker 1: on Atta Boys and head Scratcher. Our first head Scratcher,

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Speaker 1: Joe is going into the game the Chargers one of

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Speaker 1: the league's worst teams against the rush, giving up one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty five yards per game on the ground,

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Speaker 1: but the Colts decided primarily to attack Los Angeles through

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Speaker 1: the air, despite the fact that the Colts averaged four

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Speaker 1: point nine yards per carry. Zack Moss was running really

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Speaker 1: hard for the game. He was over five yards per carry.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that the Colts didn't try to grind

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Speaker 1: the Chargers down primarily early in the game with their

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Speaker 1: rush that was working in the first and second quarter.

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Speaker 1: I was a little bit, because again Moss was our

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Speaker 1: best player offensively. Last nine he had twelve carries for

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Speaker 1: sixty five yards. He was running really hard, and I

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Speaker 1: actually liked the diversity of our running game. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was the best it's been in weeks. You know,

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Speaker 1: we ran a nice wham play with Kaleenich, who he's

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Speaker 1: kind of become. He's the closest thing we have to

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle on the roster. We've lined him up at fullback.

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Speaker 1: He gives you a lot of diversity in the run game,

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Speaker 1: more in terms of a lead guy. You know that

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Speaker 1: I'll stick his face in there. But Moss ran hard.

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Speaker 1: We had some different RPOs. We ran out of a

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Speaker 1: spread formation, which I like, you know, those shotgun runs

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Speaker 1: with three and four guys split out to get you

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Speaker 1: a lighter box. So I thought the run game was

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Speaker 1: the best thing we had going. I do understand when

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Speaker 1: we fell behind thirteen to three, then ultimately twenty to three,

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Speaker 1: you got to kind of throw the ball. But I

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Speaker 1: felt like we were forcing the ball downfield too much early,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I think we were trying to

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Speaker 1: prove with Nick Foles that you know, we could get

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Speaker 1: some of these guys loose, and you had some success

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Speaker 1: early to Woods and Pierce. But I did think that

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Speaker 1: Moss is a guy that seemed to me a little

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Speaker 1: bit like Jonathan Taylor. He got better as the game

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Speaker 1: went on. He ran harder. You can tell running backs

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Speaker 1: have to get in a groove like a quarterback. That's

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Speaker 1: what people have to understand. Two, it's a new group

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Speaker 1: of offensive lineman. They all move a different way, block

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Speaker 1: a different way. But I do think Moss is earning

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Speaker 1: himself playing time for sure, the next couple of games

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Speaker 1: and beyond. People forget he was a third round pick

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Speaker 1: out of Buffalo just a few years back, so he's

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Speaker 1: still relatively young in his career, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: earning himself a nice niche and role on this team,

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Speaker 1: not just the next couple of games, but moving forward

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty three and beyond. All Right, we're

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Speaker 1: going head scratchers and Atta boys, our first ATTA boy

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Speaker 1: Rick safety Rodney Thomas. He picked off Justin Herbert there

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter. He now is in sole possession

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Speaker 1: of the team leading picks with three. And this guy's

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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick out of Yale and he has

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Speaker 1: been a key contributor on defense. Many thought that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the highest touted rookie safety that we were gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about all year, that was Nick Cross. He is

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Speaker 1: the first Colts rookie to tally two consecutive games with

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Speaker 1: a pick since Malik Hooker in twenty seventeen. At a boy,

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Speaker 1: big time to Rodney Thomas. Can Thomas be a big

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Speaker 1: part of this Colt's future on defense? Rick, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any questions that he can. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: If you go back to Stewart and you go back

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Speaker 1: to Franklin, right and now, right now, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a kid that really and this is hard for me

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Speaker 1: to say, but he's really outplayed black Man and I

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Speaker 1: don't think we ever saw that coming. Now. The interesting

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Speaker 1: thing about him, I did not I did not do

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Speaker 1: him from Yale, you know, getting ready in the pre draft.

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Speaker 1: But after we drafted him, of course I went back

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Speaker 1: and really studied the hell out of him to see

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Speaker 1: what we got. And I watched his pro day, and

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Speaker 1: when you look at him, it shouldn't be as big

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Speaker 1: as surprise. I mean, this guy is six two, you know,

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Speaker 1: right at two hundred. I don't know if you realize

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Speaker 1: this or not, but he runs a four or forty nine,

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Speaker 1: which is fast, forty one vertical. He has a four

639
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: point zero two short shuttle, which is record setting. So

640
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: this is a guy that was really a terristic athlete,

641
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: but he was kind of a man without a position.

642
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: He played some linebackers, some corner, some safety, And so

643
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: after I looked at him, I thought, you know, this

644
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: is going to be a hell of a kid. He'll

645
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: come in here and do special teams. He's going to

646
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: be really smart, and you know, he'll be a backup

647
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: safety for a while, but I think he has the

648
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: talent to someday be a starter. Well, he's you know,

649
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: so far, you know, so far gone ahead of that.

650
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: And I would take my ad off to whoever does

651
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: our Northeastern scouting, because you've got a kid that you

652
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: got on the seventh round, who is a legit starter

653
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: and playmaker. And if you look at the University of Massachusetts,

654
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: he's obviously. Thomas is from Yale, and you look at

655
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Rogers from Massachusetts. I mean two unlikely places. You've got

656
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: two legitimate starters that are really pretty dog on good players.

657
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Sixth and seventh round picks right there. Yeah, to a

658
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: sixth and a seventh I mean, whoever's doing our Northeast scouting,

659
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: keep him going, because he's doing pretty well, no question

660
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: about all right, Rick, stay right there. Let's go to

661
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: the head scratcher. Nick Fall started the game, took seven

662
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: sacks on twenty nine drop backs. The Colts now have

663
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: allowed at least six sacks in a game three times

664
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Speaker 1: this season, three different quarterbacks. They've allowed fifty six sacks

665
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: on the season. That's the fourth most in club history. Rick,

666
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: Why has the pressure been so prevalent regardless of who

667
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback is the season for the Colts? Well, for

668
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, with the exception of two games, but we

669
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: played Sam. You're basically dealing with two old statues. There's

670
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: no question about it. I mean, there's statues back there

671
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: and everybody on defense knows it. Add the complication of

672
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: not really having a running game identity like we have

673
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: in the past. And I totally agree with Joe and

674
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: I said that in our solutions at the halftime, just

675
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: keep feeding Moss. Moss is a legitimate player, he really is,

676
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and you know, but we have it ever established a

677
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: running even on a day where it was going. He

678
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: had a four point nine rushing average against the worst

679
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: rush team in the league per play, and we got

680
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: away from it and put it in the hands of

681
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: foals in our offensive line who was playing in the

682
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: disc advantage. And so you know, those things go hand

683
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: in hand. They lead to the situation. But some other

684
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: things have been there and Joe can follow me up

685
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: on this, but first of all, our bullets coordination this

686
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: year has been god awful. The first time they came

687
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: it was just a jailbreak and I have no idea

688
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: how we've gone to the tank so bad on that.

689
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: But when I see guys coming from upstairs, my thought

690
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: is easy, it's either a sack or it's gonna be

691
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: a fumble one or the other. Nothing good is going

692
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: to happen. I think the second thing is we refuse

693
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: to help the young kid at left tackle and in

694
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: critical situations, they get good players on him and he's

695
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: just not ready for it. I mean it was Mac

696
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: this week, it's been Graham, it's been Riddick, it's been Highsmith.

697
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, when do you learn. I mean, to me,

698
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: that's just coaching malpractice. If you got a kid and

699
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: he won't be a liability forever, but as a rookie,

700
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: he's a liability on the island on the blund side,

701
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: and we hope to anything to help him. So I

702
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: mean in a sense, blitz coordination and lack of good protection,

703
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: and even our top guys, Braden Smith he got run

704
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: by by Rump. I mean the worst. The worst was Nelson.

705
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: I mean he got spin move on Nelson. He didn't

706
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: even touch the guy he whipped. So you know, it's

707
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: been under production in one sense in the offensive line.

708
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: But on the other sense, it's been lack of ever

709
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: establishing or running get somebody in a disadvantage. And then

710
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: to me, its lack of help of that left tackle

711
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: weekend week out. Shame on you offensive staff. All right,

712
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: it's Rick Venturi. We're going head scratchers and Atta boys,

713
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: our last atta boy to close out, and Joe writes

714
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: is with us as well, Joe, the Colts had four

715
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: sacks against the Chargers. Their season total now is forty

716
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: three on the year, and only the two thousand and

717
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: four Colts in the two thousand and five Colts have

718
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: more sacks as a group since the team moved to

719
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Indianapolis in nineteen eighty four. Unique and Ackway has gotten

720
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks DeForrest Buckner has eight, but

721
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: they're two of seven Colts players with at least two

722
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: sacks on the year. Joe at a boy, the Colts

723
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: pass rush quietly having a really good season. What improvements

724
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Speaker 1: have you seen out of that group as the season

725
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: has progressed. I know the records still not there, but

726
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: in terms of getting after the quarterback, the Cults are

727
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: doing that this season. Well, I think one you bring

728
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: over in Gockway, you know he's on pace for double

729
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: digit sacks. You know what Buttler brings you. But the

730
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: emergence of seeing younger guys Quitty pay six sacks like

731
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned, despite missing some time with an injury, Dio

732
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: has come on more as of late after really getting

733
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: a slow start to the season. Throughout camp. Grover Stewart,

734
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, has had a heck of a year and

735
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: pushing the pocket, you know in the past game, but

736
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I think you know, we're a team that has relied

737
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: on our front four to get pressure. Now I'd like

738
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: to see his blitz a little bit more because I

739
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: think when we blitzed it's been productive throughout this season.

740
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: But I know that's not you know, Gus Bradley's style.

741
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: But we have been able to consistently get pressure with

742
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: four guys or than we have in the past. And

743
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: that's a key because when you think about this league,

744
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: you just close your eyes. What do you gotta have?

745
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: You gotta have explosive playmakers on the outside, wide receiver

746
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: and cornerbacks, and you've got to be able to win

747
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: the edge. What do I mean by the edge? You've

748
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: got to be able to have, like coaches talked about it,

749
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: left and right tackles that can hold up, but also

750
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: guys that can get pressure. And you know, this league

751
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: has evolved as such with so many different quarterbacks, athletic quarterbacks,

752
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: guys that can move the pocket. You have to have

753
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: that athleticism not just on the edge, but inside too.

754
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: And I do think that again you mentioned it, Matt,

755
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: the Colts are on pace to set their club record,

756
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: franchise record for most sacks in a season, So hats

757
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: off to those guys. I think they've done it by committee.

758
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I do think it's still an area we need to

759
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: improve on because it's so important to the game. But

760
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: positively got some young guys in their second third year

761
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: that have started to come on, especially more as of late. Yeah,

762
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: also too, since nineteen eighty four, only the two thousand

763
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: and the two thousand and five Cults have had at

764
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: least four players with five sacks in a single seat.

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: So that's a pretty good barometer of where the Colts

766
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: are at right now, with a lot of young talent

767
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: on the up and come this season here in Indianapolis.

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00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: All right, that's a look at the Ada boys and

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Speaker 1: your questions using hashtag Colts Roundtable. Let's go to John

791
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: He's up first tonight, Rick, should we switch to Sam

792
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: Ellinger for the final two games strictly for his mobility

793
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: and athleticism compared to the other two quarterbacks. We know

794
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: that you know. Interim coach Jeff Saturday has already addressed this.

795
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: It appears that Nick Foles is going to be the

796
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Colts the final two games, but I

797
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: suspect that you have a different feeling on the matter. Rick, Yeah,

798
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: we just did head scratchers. That's the biggest head scratcher

799
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: to me today. I just I can't believe it. You

800
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: have absolutely no future with Foals. Really and truly, Foals

801
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: is still living off to two thousand and seventeen season.

802
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: He's like about three and fifteen since then. I really

803
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. He's another statue. He's old. He

804
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: really is going to mean nothing to this franchise what

805
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: Sam gives you. And I think Sam was. I thought

806
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: he was terribly mismanaged. After the New England game. If

807
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: that would have been if that would have been Folds,

808
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: or that would have been Matt Ryan, they'd have had

809
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: twenty sacks in that game. They got We got out

810
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: schemed by Belichick. He brought stuff we couldn't handle and

811
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: they killed him. The kid played extremely well in the

812
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Commander's game. It wasn't his fault that they scored with

813
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: seconds to go to beat us. And the thing about Ellinger,

814
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: the reason I'd like to play him is several reasons. Okay.

815
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Number one, you can run NCAA football with him. You

816
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: can run bootleg passes, you can move the pocket, you

817
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: will reduce the type of blitzes you're gonna get because

818
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: of s athleticism, So he can help you on those ways.

819
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Number two, I really do those other two guys have

820
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: no future here Ellinger as maybe a future here now

821
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: is Ellinger? You know he is never going to be

822
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. I'm not putting him in that category. And

823
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: if anything, I was lobbying that once he was number

824
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: two again that we would use him, we would spot

825
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: play him, we would get him in there for a

826
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: series or short yardage were instead of a sneak you

827
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: can run a rollout type of play or a zone

828
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: type of read those type of things. Okay, but here's

829
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: what I'd like to see. First of all, I think

830
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: he would give you the best chance to win because

831
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: of mobility. But then number two, what I want, what

832
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I would like to know is when we finished this season,

833
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: exactly who he is. Like I said, in no way

834
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: do I think he's a Jalen Hurts or any of

835
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: those guys, or maybe even ever An NFL starter. But

836
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: what I do see traits in him are Cannehill type traits,

837
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Minshew type trades. What I'd like to know at the

838
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: end of seventeen games, is he good enough to be

839
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: Gardner Minsh? You can he be that really good backup

840
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: for you if even if you go out and draft

841
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: a guy number one. I mean, that's and I don't

842
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: know that yet. I thought he did a really good

843
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: job against the Commanders, So you know, I don't understand

844
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: this thinking at all. All right, let's go back to

845
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: the mailbag. Mick is up next. Joe, how much roster

846
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: turnover do you anticipate this offseason and which of our

847
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: free agents are really worth being retained? Yeah, great question,

848
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: because with two games left, and that's where we season's

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Speaker 1: fate where it is, that's where we are. You start

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Speaker 1: to look ahead to twenty twenty three and draft pick

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Speaker 1: free agency. Now, usually, Mick, there's i'd say twenty five

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Speaker 1: to thirty percent roster turnover a year and a year out,

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Speaker 1: and that's across the board. That's if your franchise is

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Speaker 1: in a healthy position. You know, I remember in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eleven when we went into two twelve, we

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Speaker 1: had a new coach, a new GM, a new quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it was about fifty percent turnover, and

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Speaker 1: so I would expect there to be more turnover than normal,

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Speaker 1: just because when you have a team in a season

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Speaker 1: that doesn't perform well, it's inevitable there's going to be

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Speaker 1: more change than people think, whether that's new free agents

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Speaker 1: being brought in, whether that's guys or veterans getting released

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Speaker 1: and cut early from their contract, or whether that's new

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Speaker 1: draft picks and playing some younger guys. So definitely, you

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Speaker 1: know that roster speculation will continue to increase as we

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Speaker 1: move forward. But again, it's all going to go back

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Speaker 1: to your quarterback at the start of it. And that's

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Speaker 1: where I kind of agree with coach. You know, Ellinger,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not going to think in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three he's going to be your number one there, but

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Speaker 1: it would be nice to know can he be your

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Speaker 1: number two moving forward? But good question by Mick, And

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Speaker 1: again I would expect there to be north of that

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Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty percent roster turnover, even though the

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Speaker 1: Colts have some good young players in a corps, you

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Speaker 1: start to think about some bigger picture decisions whenever you

877
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: have a disappointing season like this one. Yeah well, said

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Speaker 1: Rick vent Terry and Joe Writes on the mail Bag

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Speaker 1: sit four ten and one. They are one of four

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Speaker 1: AFC teams that have been eliminated from playoff contention. It's

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Speaker 1: time now for the closing arguments again with Rick Venturry

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00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: and Joe Writes with the players standpoint of things. Joe,

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Speaker 1: there's two games left. You've been there, You've been on

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Speaker 1: great teams and teams that have gone through seasons like

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Speaker 1: this before. Joe, how do you stay engaged and dialed

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Speaker 1: in despite the results not being there and knowing this team,

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00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: as you said on the last segment, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be together for very much longer before major major

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Speaker 1: changes come to Colt's way this upcoming off season. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember, for me, I looked at my wife and

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00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: I looked at my little daughter, and I said, I

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Speaker 1: want to have a job next year, right, and I

914
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: wanted to be in this organization. I think that's just

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Speaker 1: the reality of where things are. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: two games and you know, you can find a bunch

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00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: of people off the street that are going to come

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Speaker 1: in here and play hard. And if you're a guy

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00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: that can't play hard and motivate yourself when you don't

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00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: have quote the playoffs to play for, if you can't

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Speaker 1: be self motivated, then you're probably not a guy that

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Speaker 1: this organization wants in here long term. And so for me,

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Speaker 1: it's about going out and playing, you know, my very

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Speaker 1: best as a player to show Jim Ursay and show

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Speaker 1: this franchise that I want to be in this Colts

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Speaker 1: uniform twenty twenty three and beyond. And I felt like

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Speaker 1: that was something I was disappointed in last night. I

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Speaker 1: didn't see that across the board like I felt like

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Speaker 1: we had in the Dallas game, in the Minnesota game.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I'm sure this coaching staff and

931
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Speaker 1: Jeff and holding these guys accountable, and you know, Chris Ballard,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be watching that awful close over the next

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Speaker 1: two weeks. Who's actually playing hard when things don't go

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Speaker 1: well and you're facing a lot of adversity. So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the mindset that I'd be in. Yeah again,

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Speaker 1: well said right there. Meanwhile, Rick the Giants, they're fighting

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Speaker 1: for a playoff spot in the NFC. If they went

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Speaker 1: on Sunday over the Colts, they're in the playoffs, just

939
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Speaker 1: like the Chargers last night. They're eight and six and one,

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Speaker 1: but they're just one four and one in their last

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Speaker 1: six games after a really good start to the season

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Speaker 1: when they were six and one. Yeah, they're not you

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Speaker 1: know what they did again. The situation is almost exactly

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Speaker 1: the same as the Chargers, except there at home now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the Giants are as talented as

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. But the thing that I like about them,

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Speaker 1: the thing that scares me a little bit, is I

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Speaker 1: think they are the best coach team in the National

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Speaker 1: Football Like I think Brian Dable as the head coach

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Speaker 1: and Wink Martindale on defense. I think they've gotten more

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Speaker 1: out of less than anybody in the league. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got Barkley, you got a good quarterback in Jones,

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Speaker 1: and not much else. And the thing that bothers me

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Speaker 1: the most because of what we've done is, and Joe

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Speaker 1: knows this, Wink Martindale will blitch you from the time

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Speaker 1: you get off that plane and Newer till the time

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Speaker 1: you get back on it, and man, you better be ready.

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Speaker 1: If you're not ready, you'll get embarrassed in this one,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. All right, guys, we're up against it.

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Speaker 1: That's all the time we've got tonight. My big thanks

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Speaker 1: to Rick vent Terry and Joe Writes for keeping it

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Speaker 1: real as always the discussing the reality is of the

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Speaker 1: Colts season as they sit four ten and one. We've

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Speaker 1: got you covered on the Colts all week long, as

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Speaker 1: we always do. The official podcast is gonna drop on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Insight Football with Rick. That's gonna drop on Thursday with

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Speaker 1: the blueprints to beat the Giants on New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: So check all of that out Colts dot Com, the

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Speaker 1: Colts Mobile app, and the Colts Audio Network. That's wherever

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Speaker 1: you download your podcast. The Pacers in the Hawks basketball

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Speaker 1: been Colts Roundtable live here on the Home of the

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