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Speaker 1: Rob Lamb and I have to tell you. For the

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Speaker 1: airing some older rewind episodes. Most of these are from

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Speaker 1: the first year of Weird House Cinema, so you know,

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Speaker 1: they might be a little rougher than what you're used to,

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Speaker 1: This is going to be an episode that originally aired

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Speaker 1: one twenty two, twenty twenty one. It seems an impossibly

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Speaker 1: long time ago. Now, this is the nineteen seventy six

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Speaker 1: Shop Brothers horror film The Oily Maniac. It's a little slazy,

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Speaker 1: it's very oily, has a pretty cool monster in it.

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Speaker 2: Let's have it.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 1: And today we are looking at Weird House Cinema's first

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Speaker 1: Chinese selection nineteen seventy six. Is Yu Guzi or It's

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Speaker 1: just it's known elsewhere at the oily maniac, though I

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Speaker 1: believe a more accurate translation of the original title would

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Speaker 1: be the oil devil. You is oily er greasy and

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Speaker 1: a guzi is devil, often used as a pejorative in Mandarin.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this is this is our first Chinese film

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Speaker 1: that we're covering here. It is a Shaw Brothers picture,

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Speaker 1: but it is a horror movie, not a kung fu movie,

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Speaker 1: It's manufactured in a facility that also processes martial arts.

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Speaker 2: This one was very so how did you come across

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Speaker 1: I think this one I got. I was turned onto

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Speaker 1: by scrolling through the Amazon Prime Films, you know, which

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Speaker 1: is Amazon Prime, which they're not paying for this promotion,

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Speaker 1: but they are generally my go to for streaming weird

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's like maybe public domain and

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Speaker 1: has like three different listings within the app. So I

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Speaker 1: ran across this thumbnail for this like crazy looking monster,

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Speaker 1: which we'll describe here in a bit, and with glowing

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Speaker 2: What an oily maniac it is? This is a great monster. Now,

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Speaker 2: this movie has something I guess we should address right

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Speaker 2: in some Shaw Brothers energy, which is very good. But

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Speaker 2: digging through weird, lesser known movies, especially genre films from

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Speaker 2: But then you get a ways into it and you realize,

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Speaker 2: oh no, it's one of those Yeah, and this movie

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Speaker 2: was kind of like that for me. We're not going

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Speaker 2: but be warned that this film has various kinds of

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Speaker 2: extreme sexual grossness and misogyny of different sorts that make

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Speaker 2: it an unpleasant watch in many parts of the movie.

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Speaker 2: So this might be one that if you're actually interested

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Speaker 2: I wish the entire rest of the film could match them.

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Speaker 2: It's such a shame when what could have otherwise been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because again, the monster is great. This

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Speaker 2: But in some ways that it is somewhat thematically appropriate

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the film would have been great

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Speaker 2: Well. I like that he goes after corrupt lawyers. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's basically the elevator pitch here. When corruption

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should hit that trailer audio.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to it, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what I get excited about a nice title

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Speaker 2: And the Shaw Brothers Studio put out different kinds of films.

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Speaker 2: the critical consensus on Rotten Tomatoes reads misunderstood when it

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It is the bloodiest, gooriest martial arts movie you

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Speaker 1: Oily Maniac. That is Danny Lee playing Shun Yawn, And

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, should we get into an overview of at

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Speaker 2: the version I saw said, The text reads, this story

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Speaker 2: Well, like several moments in this movie, there is some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we go from this monstrous boiling scene, which I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we go to this coconut farm and actually,

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Speaker 2: a very very bad way. Of course, with the caveat

434
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: that this is all in the English subtitles, something maybe

435
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: getting lost there.

436
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't help but wonder if that the actual

437
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: lines and Mandarin or relate more to like a shameful

438
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: death or you know, dishonor or something, because because that's

439
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: that's ultimately the direction things go in. And yeah, I

440
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: love this setup. This is a great setup for the

441
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: black magic to come and it you know, ultimately it

442
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: deserves a better movie.

443
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: Yes, So, so Danny Lee takes this information back home.

444
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: He's copied out the spell from from his uncle's back

445
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: and he goes home. He gets frustrated. I think he

446
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: feels like he is he is sort of a he's

447
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: got unrequited love for you a And he gets frustrated

448
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: in his house and then just gets out a pickaxe,

449
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: digs a hole in the floor in the middle of

450
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: his house, takes his shirt off, starts chanting, give me

451
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: peace and power, and then crude oil or some kind

452
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: of gray sudsy dishwater type liquid, it bubbles up from

453
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: the ground. This is one of many sequences in the

454
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: film that just have like gray sudsy oil coming up

455
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: out of something and it covers him, and then we

456
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: get the transformation for the first monster sequence.

457
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now I have to drive home. He digs

458
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: that hole and then he climbs into the hole. Yeah,

459
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: and then it fills up with the oily mess. And

460
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: I think this is very fitting because on one hand,

461
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: you have like the earthly origins of oil. It's like

462
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: he's communing with spirits of the ground. And then also

463
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: he is about to embark on the profession of revenge,

464
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, and so he's kind of digging his own

465
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: grave here to begin, which is a fitting symbol for

466
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: what he's about to try and achieve.

467
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: Right, so we get a monster transformation. It is not

468
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: quite American werewolf in London level. He's just sort of

469
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: suddenly this monster and how to describe the creature. It

470
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: is basically human shaped but very bulky, like a person

471
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: in a firefighter's suit. And the exterior texture of his

472
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: body is kind of it's so it's oily and it's wrinkly,

473
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: and it's wet and it's it looks like a sort

474
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: of a black garbage bag covered in slime and water.

475
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but well done for the most part. I mean,

476
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: it depends how it's shot. Like some sometimes it looks

477
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: better than other times in the film. But for the

478
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: most part, it's an impressive monster suit with a lot

479
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: of bizarre details.

480
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should be clear impressive in the

481
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: schlock sense and that it's fun to look at. It's not.

482
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: I would not say this is an especially beautifully designed suit.

483
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: But yes, for as for like schlock monster, it's up there.

484
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an element, there's kind of a sense of

485
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: swamp thing to it. Yeah, there's a there's kind of

486
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: a sense of just like oily mess gollum to it.

487
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, if this think it came and running at me,

488
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I'd be terrified.

489
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: So it's got glowing fossilized amber for eyes. They don't

490
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: say that that's what it looks like. This this kind

491
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: of yellow, glassy or plasticky material that lights behind it.

492
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: You kind of get the feeling that if you leaned

493
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: in close and looked in the eyes, you might see

494
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: a mosquito, like in mister Hammond's cane. And then it's

495
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: got a toothy red mouth that is permanently cocked up

496
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: to one side as if smirking.

497
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

498
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 2: And then the weirdest feature. I don't think they ever

499
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: explained this in the movie, or if they did, I

500
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: missed it.

501
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: There.

502
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: It has an exposed red beating heart that pokes out

503
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: from the rest of the oily exterior. It looks like

504
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: a sort of red heart that's beating but trapped behind plastic.

505
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks It looks really cool, and it it

506
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: looks like such a bull's eye that you assume that

507
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: it's going to somehow factor into the plot or into

508
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: the way that the monster eventually dies.

509
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: Right, but it does stay through the heart or something.

510
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does, And it just looks cool.

511
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: What would be what would be the best way? So

512
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: I really feel like they could have played with better

513
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: ways to defeat the oil Monster in this movie, like

514
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: using soap or something.

515
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they could have. They could have been a

516
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: little more chemically aware, I guess h As it turns out,

517
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: they just stick with fire. Yeah, petroleum consuming microbes. That

518
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: would be like a modern version. I guess that would

519
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: be good.

520
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: But so everything else on this exterior, yes, just these

521
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: oily you know, black garbage bag mud tentacles. And he

522
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: screams with rage. The monster often screams with rage.

523
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some sort of like reverb added to the

524
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: rage scream too that makes it feel like nice and otherworldly,

525
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: because again, he's not a he's not a product of

526
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: mad science. He's a product of black magic.

527
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Right, And so from here on out the film is

528
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: mostly greasy violence. The the oil Monster hunts and pummels

529
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: and kills people. I think we're to understand that most

530
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: the people he kills are like bad dudes who deserve it.

531
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: But then the sort of like the bad sexual politics

532
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: come through. Like one of the people he attacks is

533
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: a woman who is portrayed as like a scheming woman

534
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: who falsely accuses men of sexual assault.

535
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: Right, And then there's another scene where he wreaks vengeance

536
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: on a crooked plastic surgeon. But then there's a patient

537
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: in the room when he goes on his rampage and

538
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: he just like throws her up against the wall too. Yeah,

539
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: So it's like he's very indiscriminate in his vengeance and

540
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: rage here. Sometimes the first thing he'll do when he

541
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: comes into a room full of people to exact vengeance

542
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: is just smash all the glass items.

543
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, which is a.

544
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Solid monster costume move. I feel like that from the

545
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: Blood Waters of Doctor ze or Za did much the

546
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: same thing, and it was a very similar costume in

547
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: some ways bulky probably very difficult to see out of.

548
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we should mention that one of my favorite

549
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: I would say, actually my single favorite thing about this

550
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 2: movie is when the oil Monster is chasing after someone,

551
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: because we get an animated oil slick that slithers along

552
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: the floor while the Jaws music plays, just straight up

553
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: the Jaws music.

554
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he melts down into a gleaming puddle that's obviously

555
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: animated and then zooms after I mean zooms like you

556
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: be able to chase a speeding automobile.

557
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the grease So other general characteristics of

558
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: the of the lipid monster attacks. The Greaseman sometimes runs

559
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: flailing his arms in a helicopter pattern, which doesn't make

560
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: him look as menacing as I think it's supposed to.

561
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Well I was menaced, but yeah, it is kind of cartoonish.

562
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: He's also a really good jumper, Let's not forget that.

563
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: Well. He has a special kind of superpower, which is

564
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: reverse footage leaping abilities. So sometimes even as a dummy,

565
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: there are great scenes where he jumps up, you know,

566
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: three stories at once and looks oddly kind of like

567
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: flaccid and inanimate. And I think it's just because they're

568
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: like dropping a stuffed suit and then reversing the footage.

569
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good now, but a lot of his particular

570
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: moves during it, and he has the helicopter spin. Generally,

571
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: he's doing what I think of is just sort of

572
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: pro wrestling clubren on folks, Like he's just wailing on

573
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: him with his arms. Sometimes he looks like he's even

574
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: doing like a double axe handle thing. He's stomping. He'll

575
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: stop people in the ribs. He'll apply an oily choke,

576
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: but with one notable exception. Those are his keys, his

577
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: key moves that he pulls out in his fights.

578
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so there is. The plot of the movie

579
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: includes that there's like this furor generated about the Oily

580
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: Maniac attacks, Like there is a scene where he's supposedly

581
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: going around punishing evildoers. There's one scene where he kills

582
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: a rapist, and then it cuts to newspaper headlines and

583
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: it says Tin Kin Young was killed by the Oily Maniac.

584
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: That's the translation we get of the newspaper head line,

585
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: and then another one says the oil Maniac slays Tin Kinyong.

586
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: And again I'm wondering if something is lost in translation,

587
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: because that would imply that the reader already knows who

588
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: the culprit in, who the culprit is by name, and

589
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: would know who or what the oil Maniac is.

590
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, on one hand, I can

591
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: imagine that the Oily Maniac it might be eluded, like

592
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: his name being in the headlines might be alluding to

593
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: the fact that, okay, this is an established bit of folklore.

594
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: And also there's kind of a cryptid aspect to this

595
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: as well in real life that occasionally you'll see headline.

596
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Think in twenty twelve, it even made headlines internationally when

597
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: there was a little edge sighting of an oil man

598
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: somewhere in Malaysia or Singapore, I can't remember which.

599
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So this could be tying into the actual folklore

600
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: basis of the premise of this film.

601
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Right, but certainly for most Western viewers if you're watching this,

602
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: that's going to be lost on you.

603
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: There is so But anyway, so the police are investigating

604
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: the oil maniac attacks. There's one part I really liked

605
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: where a detective is like, I deduce that the culprit

606
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: covers himself in oil to get away faster.

607
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: That's a great line.

608
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's thought that through. I don't

609
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: know how well that would work.

610
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of covering and oil, though, one of the

611
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: cool things is that when Danny Lee initially transforms into

612
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the oil monster, or if you want to calm something

613
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: like hip or I would say you could refer to

614
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: him as the crude dude. When he makes this initial transformation,

615
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: there's the whole ritual in the pit. But later apparently

616
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: all he has to do is just get some oil

617
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: on him in order to transform Like there's a scene

618
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: at a roadside construction site where there's just an open

619
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: barrel of like seemingly boiling oil and he just goes

620
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: up and starts putting it on himself and then jumps in.

621
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another one where he just walks up to

622
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: a gas takes out the diesel pump, sprays it all

623
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: over himself, and transforms. And the stuff that comes out

624
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: of the diesel pump is it's I guess supposed to

625
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: be crude oil. It's like this dark liquid, but again

626
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of gray and sudsy, like like old dishwater,

627
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: and I just don't think that's what diesel fuel looks like.

628
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: So one scene in this movie that is not a

629
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: monster attack scene and is also not revolting but it's

630
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: just fun is the Curry disappointment scene. Can you explain this?

631
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so there are this is not really a movie

632
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: for great female characters, but no, he essentially has two

633
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: potential love interests. One is the you know, the the

634
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: the poor woman who's it was her father right or

635
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: that that died right, that was executed. No, trying to

636
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: remember what her relationship is to any other character.

637
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: I think she works with Danny and she just works

638
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: with him stuff.

639
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: She no, no, no, there's the law. There's basically there's

640
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: work love interest, and then there's the other love interest.

641
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: There's UA and yeah, so there's u A and then

642
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: there's work lady. Okay, okay, so's he's totally smitten with

643
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: u A, but he's he keeps getting help from this

644
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: lady at work. He comes over to her apartment and

645
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: of course he's just sort of saying, oh, everything's the worst,

646
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm having all these problems. And she's like,

647
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: what do you do You like curry? And he's like, oh,

648
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I love curry, but I only love her curry. Anything

649
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: else just disgust me. And then we sort of pan

650
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: out and she's like, but I made curry. And there's

651
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: like this full table set with this luscious looking curry

652
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: dish and.

653
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: The passion in this scene the remorse after he disappoints

654
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: her about the curry that plays remorse music. It's like

655
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 2: the remorse theme from The Oily Maniac.

656
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the curry disappointment scene is great. I recommend it.

657
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: Another interesting scene that occurs that doesn't involve monsters or

658
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: anything is this. I was impressed by the speed with

659
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: which the police tap all the office phones, and I

660
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: couldn't help but wonder, Okay, is this just movie logic

661
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: or is this an actual, like accurate representation of phone

662
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: tapping by law enforcement in Malaysia or Hong Kong at

663
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: the time, I'm not sure.

664
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder. Well, anyway, it all builds up to

665
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: a final confrontation between the Oily Maniac and the many

666
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: forces of evil and corruption in this movie, which are

667
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: a loosely affiliated group of I don't know, criminals and gangsters.

668
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's a massive battle with like all the

669
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: oily special effects they can muster, and it's pretty fabulous.

670
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, if you're if you're tempted to see part

671
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: of this movie, it might be and you just want

672
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: to check out one scene, it might be best to

673
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: just skip skip to the end and watch this ending

674
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: battle scene.

675
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: Though I will say there is an excellent kill in

676
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: the film before that, where the evil lawyer and his

677
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: mistress are you know, have sped away and they've gone

678
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: to like a makeout place and they're like gonna make

679
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: out in the car, and then the oily Maniac attacks

680
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and it's a great scene where he starts dripping down

681
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: all the windows. You know, it's very blob asque, and

682
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: then suddenly he's in the back seat and then he

683
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: grabs the lawyer's head and crushes it like a coconut,

684
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: And we don't see much of it, which actually kind

685
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: of helps make it work more. But yeah, there is

686
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: a head burst scene, and that's probably the most violent,

687
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: physically violent thing we see the monster do to anybody.

688
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Otherwise it's mostly just beat downs's traditional beatdowns, martial

689
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: arts film style style beatdowns. Though the Oil Monster does

690
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: have tricks other than just like kicking and punching that

691
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: we've already said. He's got the reverse footage jump, but

692
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: he also has a trick he reveals, i think only

693
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: in that final battle, which is that he can spray

694
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: oil out of his mouth. And this is kind of

695
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: like the James Bond car trick where it shoots out

696
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: the oil slicks so the other cars behind skid all

697
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: over the place, but in this case, he just vomits

698
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: oil all over the faces of his attackers.

699
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also an R two D two trick by the way.

700
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, but he's got but

701
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: he's got powers that make him very too difficult to defeat.

702
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: So the enemies hack him with machetes and stuff or

703
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: swords and like they can lop his arm off, but

704
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: then it just regenerates because he's got the oil magic right.

705
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: And there are a couple of times where they shoot

706
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: him full of bullets and then he'll melt down into

707
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: a puddle and then he'll like regenerate back up to

708
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: full strength. They're really proud of that effect because he's

709
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: they rolled out about twice.

710
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, But in the end, the Oily Maniac is defeated

711
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: by who would a thunk it fire?

712
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he goes too far, Like he has the

713
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: police and he's about to crush their heads in a

714
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: double headlock sort of situation, and she's like, no, you

715
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: have to stop, you have to leave them alone. He

716
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: won't do it, so he gets torched.

717
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: Yep, and then we see his like body on the

718
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: ground burning up and it sort of it burns like

719
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: old newspaper. And then once again there is a really

720
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: sudden and funny music transition where the Oily Maniac is

721
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: blown away like burned newspaper, and then soft happy music

722
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: just kicks right in.

723
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like the old school monster movie ending

724
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: of the monster is dead, the end. There's no there's

725
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: no at all. Yeah, I do want to get back

726
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: to the Malaysian roots here, the folkloric roots, because indeed,

727
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: there is a creature in Malaysian folklore known as the

728
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: Orang Mignac or oily man and according to the University

729
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: of Southern California Digital Folklore Archives, yeah, the oily man

730
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: is a creature of Malaysian folklore with appearances in Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia,

731
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: and Singapore. And the main constant in the folk tradition

732
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: is that we have an oily humanoid that assaults women

733
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: at night, especially virgins, and the origins vary quite a bit.

734
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's said to be just a dark creature of

735
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: the spirit world. Other times he's a human, a quote

736
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: spurned lover that has powers due to his solicitation of

737
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: either a bomo, a Malaysian witch doctor, or a contract

738
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: with a creature from the spiritual world.

739
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: So this makes it seem like maybe a lot of

740
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: the creepy sexual associations of the oily maniac or not

741
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: just in the movie, but they're also in the folk

742
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: tales that the movie is based on.

743
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: Yes, it would seem to be the case. Like it

744
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: is a it is a like a folkl ort creature,

745
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: sometimes again a cryptid even it's this dark, oily creature

746
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: that creeps around in the night and attacks women, hard

747
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: to see in the dark, slippery if you grab him.

748
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: Also in some versions, apparently he likes to steal things,

749
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't find a lot of details on that.

750
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: The other interesting thing is that this was not the

751
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: first oily maniac film or oil man film. There was

752
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: a series of these that were produced in sing Poor

753
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties, such as Curse of the

754
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Oily Man in fifty six and The Oily Man in

755
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: fifty eight. So it was already an established movie monster

756
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: before the Shaw Brothers came around and gave it not

757
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: just an oily naked human appearance, but this awesome swamp

758
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: thing asks treatment and apparently, yeah, there are still supernatural

759
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: sightings of the Orong Mignac in contemporary Malaysia. I've ran

760
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: across a twenty twelve I nine article about it, and

761
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: there was even a live science article by Benjamin Radford

762
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: about it, who made a special made special mention of

763
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: cryptid enthusiasts getting in on the oily man legend and saying, well,

764
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: we think it might be a sasquatch of some sort.

765
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the old hidden primate theory.

766
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I don't think there's any reality to that.

767
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: My opinion on the possible presence of oily primates.

768
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: I would agree. And I think it's also interesting that

769
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: you see this with some other types of cryptid legends,

770
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: a connect between certain types of alleged cryptid sightings and

771
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: taboo fixations, people who are having kind of scary thoughts

772
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: at the boundaries of sex and violence.

773
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I want to get into this film's place

774
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: in Hong Kong cinema for a few minutes as well,

775
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean it's important to note, yeah, this

776
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: is a again, a black magic film, a Hong Kong

777
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: black magic film, and granted, black magic has long been

778
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: part of Chinese myths and legends, but then we see

779
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: this film as part of a shift in how it's

780
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: treated cinematically. Apparently, according to James Mudge of Easternkicks dot Com,

781
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: in an article titled black Magic and Sleezy Spells, the

782
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Shaw Brothers Horror Films, the horror output of the Shops

783
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Shaw Brothers between the late fifties and the mid eighties

784
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: was hugely influential on Hong Kong horror cinema, and it

785
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be till Samo Hung's Spooky Encounters films of the

786
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties that the style took a different turn. But

787
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: even then, Mudge Rights Shaw inspired sleazy sorcery and grotesque

788
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: black magic played a major role in the nineteen nineties

789
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: boom in what are referred to as category three rated

790
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: genre cinema. Category three is like the was the extreme

791
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: exploitation rating, So again this was part of a movement

792
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: of films that had a real impact of the oily

793
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: maniac In particular, Mudge Rights quote the film is a

794
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: wacky affair, dripping with sleeves and jarring shifts of tone,

795
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: and though it makes little sense in both some hilariously

796
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: cheap special effects, it has become a firm favorite of

797
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: trash cinema fans. And then I also found an article

798
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: by this was by Danny chen wing Kit from twenty

799
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: nineteen published in Hong Kong Studies titled Spectralizing Southeast Asia

800
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: Hong Kong Cinema of Black Magic, and in this wing

801
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: Kit makes an interesting point about Oily Maniac's place in

802
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: the history of Hong Kong black magic films. Films such

803
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: as this and seventy five's Black Magic and seventy six

804
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: is Black Magic Part Two, they dealt with black magic

805
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: beyond the limits of Hong Kong and modern urban living

806
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: quote a haunted community kept at bay from Hong Kong.

807
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: But later films they write across the boundary, bringing the

808
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: black magic into the city. And in this wing Kin

809
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Rights we see an example of cultural bias and prejudice

810
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: towards Southeast Asian cultures, and this becomes even more key

811
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: during the eighties as Hong Kong searches for its place

812
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: in the world. Quote in Hong Kong's Black Magic Cinema,

813
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: a spectralized Southeast Asia is one of the most sought

814
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: after imaginaries of otherness for the city to compensate for

815
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: its national ambiguity.

816
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So maybe the idea is that in some of

817
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: these early sleazy Sorcery films, it was imagining non Chinese

818
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: Southeast Asia as a place kind of like, I don't know,

819
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: like the you know, the rural texas of the Texas,

820
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: Chainsaw mass exactly like this dangerous, this dangerous other place

821
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: where there are savage forces afoot. But then over time

822
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: there is a shift in cinema where those forces are

823
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: are sort of moved inward and migrated back into the

824
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: home base.

825
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of the Jason takes Hong Kong movement, it

826
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: takes Manhattan.

827
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

828
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: So anyway, I thought that was interesting. It's you know,

829
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: looking at how this film is sort of like what

830
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: role it plays in the history of Hong Kong horror films,

831
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: and also what it may reveal, according to this one

832
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: author anyway, about about Hong Kong and its culture and

833
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: it's and how it viewed you know, the other parts

834
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 1: of the world as well.

835
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: Now, one thing that's certainly worth mentioning here is the

836
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: monster science parallel between the oily maniac and plenty of

837
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: creatures in the real world which do sometimes cover themselves

838
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: with different types of fluids, oils, lipids, slimes of various

839
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: kinds in order to actually improve their survival odds.

840
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. And of these creatures, and there are many, the

841
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: best example is probably always going to be the hagfish

842
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: of class mixinny and the order Mixiniformis. And these are

843
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen these, you should look them up

844
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: because they're they're bizarre. They're they're weird creatures. And you

845
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: read the writings the Scientific journal writings of people who

846
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: study them, and they totally agree. They're like, these creatures

847
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: are weird. We still don't understand everything about that. They

848
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: are strange because they are eel like, they are jawless,

849
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: their marine fish that can produce vast quantities of slime

850
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: when threatened, and then they can tie themselves in a

851
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: traveling knot which they use to sort of slip free

852
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: of their own slime, to sort of wring their own

853
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: limbless bodies free of the slimy ooz that they've secreted.

854
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: I think we should stop for a moment, though, and

855
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: appreciate just how much slime a hagfish can produce. When

856
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: I've read about this in the past, it was mind

857
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: boggling and I just had to look it up again.

858
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: There's a great article by Ed Young in The Atlantic

859
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: about hagfish, and I want to read a quote here.

860
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: He says, quote, Typically, a hagfish will release less than

861
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: a teaspoon of gunk from the hundred or so slime

862
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: glands that line its flanks, and in less than half

863
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Speaker 2: a second that little amount will expand by ten thousand times,

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Speaker 2: enough to fill a sizeable bucket. Reach in, and every

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Speaker 2: move of your hand will drag the water with it.

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Speaker 2: Wow and the knee, quotes a researcher named Douglas Fudge

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Speaker 2: of Chapman University, who says it doesn't feel like much

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Speaker 2: at first, as if a spider has built a web underwater,

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Speaker 2: But then ed writ's quote. But try to lift your

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Speaker 2: hand out, and it's as if the bucket's contents are

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Speaker 2: now attached to you.

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Speaker 1: Wow. That's incredible. Yeah, and yeah, that bucket's worth of

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Speaker 1: content that's often going to potentially going to be the

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Speaker 1: mouth of the creek the sea creature that tried to

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Speaker 1: eat it. So the idea is they just clog up

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Speaker 1: the creature that tried to consume them, and then they

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Speaker 1: move away and then they're free. There are some hagfish

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Speaker 1: that may use their slime offensively while hunting, apparently, but

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Speaker 1: most hagfish thrive on the bottom of the ocean, feasting

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Speaker 1: on rotten carcasses, and the slime is for when they

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Speaker 1: are agitated by something.

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Speaker 2: Now there's another parallel actually between the hagfish and the

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Speaker 2: Oily Maniac and then they've got a weird heart, right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Hagfish are also notable for their quote unquote

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Speaker 1: zombie hearts, which can keep beating for thirty six hours

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Speaker 1: without any oxygen, allowing them to thrive in deep oxygen

887
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Speaker 1: deprived environments. So yeah, I can't help but wonder if

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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: that is a zombie heart we see beating in the

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Speaker 1: Oily Maniac's chest.

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Speaker 2: Very nice? Okay, well, I guess that does it for

891
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: the Oily Maniac again. I will say I can't really

892
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Speaker 2: recommend watching the whole movie. It is a kind of

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00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: it is a kind of disturbing and morally bad affair.

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Speaker 2: But you should definitely check out those monster scenes, the

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Speaker 2: monster fights or it's it's the best lipid mankung fu

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Speaker 2: you will ever see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to again. I'd love to see this

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Speaker 1: monster get a better treatment and a less sleazy film.

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Speaker 1: I want. I want the film to be greasy but

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Speaker 1: not sleazy.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I just want some good, clean greaseman fun.

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00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, just have him wailing on bad guys the

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Speaker 1: whole time. I have to say, in looking around on

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Speaker 1: Google scholar for any like academic mention of him. I

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Speaker 1: did run across a I think it was like a

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Speaker 1: bachelor's degree thesis in game design where someone was making

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Speaker 1: the argument. They were like, we need stealth games that

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Speaker 1: feature the Oily Maniac. And I didn't read the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know how how pervasive that argument is

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00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: this treatment, but they were like like, yeah, he's like

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00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: a naturally skealthy he can you know, he can melt

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00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: underdoors and all. So I don't know, maybe if that

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Speaker 1: that potential game designer like feel strongly about it enough

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Speaker 1: will eventually see an Oily Maniac stealth video game.

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Speaker 2: That is a heck of a concept. Tap X to

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Speaker 2: reverse footage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So where can you see this if

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Speaker 1: you dare? Again, we've given you the the disclaimers that

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Speaker 1: are necessary, I think, But if you want to watch

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Speaker 1: the Oily Maniac or just skip to the key scenes

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Speaker 1: we mentioned, you can stream this baby on Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 1: You can buy it or rent it digitally other places

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Speaker 1: as well. It's in Mandarin with English subtitles. DVDs and

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Speaker 1: Blu rays are also available, though I can't make any

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Speaker 1: promises about region and so forth. I also want to

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Speaker 1: point out that when this film came out in Uzbekistan.

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Speaker 1: According to IMDb, the video CD title was Zombie twelve

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Speaker 1: The Insane Oily Free, which we've encountered Zombie with other films,

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Speaker 1: generally with Italian films right where it's just anything that

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Speaker 1: can remotely be tied into into the Zombie franchise, into

931
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Don of the Dead, and so this sequel. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it sounds like this was even more the case in

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Speaker 1: Uzbekistan where someone's like, oh, we got another movie, as

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Speaker 1: I've got a monster in it, Zombie twelve.

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Speaker 2: Only way to see it is in the original loosebec.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we're gonna go ahead and close close

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Speaker 1: the drum on this one, but obviously we'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear from anybody who has thoughts on this film or

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