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We're back again 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: on the Lights Off podcast with me Shawn Merriment, and 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: today we're bringing on someone who I got a chance 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: to watch at a distance, Cliff April up there at 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and that legion of boom Uh these guys, 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: there were no more of excited defenses and football at 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: that time. And it's funny. I always got a chance 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: to talk to him through social media, but this is 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: our first conversation we'll get a chance to have. We 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: got some funny stories. One of the funny stories is 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: he was a Maryland University of Maryland recruit. He came 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: in and the coaches pointed him out one day and uh, 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: he saw me and decided to go to Burdu. But 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's doing many great things now and We're 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: definitely gonna get into today's game and how things are different. 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: One of the things is different is, uh, I might 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: become an old man. I don't know if that's happened 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: or not, but I might become an old man. I'm 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: looking at some of these guys oh and three oh 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: four teams and they're laughing, having a good time. And 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: today's game that's accepted for whatever reason, when I played, 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: when Cliff played, and many others played. Uh, the leaders 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room are grabbing these guys and bringing them, 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: sitting them down, saying we're gonna get our act together. 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: So maybe I just might become an old man. Maybe not. 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring Cliff in and uh get this one going, Cliff, 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: what's up? What you might do? What's going on? Bro? 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: Are you? I'm good man? You know I was just telling, 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: uh my guy Vito here that the last time that 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: made you got a chance of talk was on social media. 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: So we would always go back and forth. But you 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: know it's cool, man, because I got a chance to 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: watch you from a distance, and I always tell me, 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: I said, yo, that that dude a dog man watching 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: watching and you'll go out make a big playing sick 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: and I'm looking like a genius. I appreciate it, man, 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate Before we jump into this though, I gotta 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: tell this story. And I think I may have told 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: you this before obviously, see me, I got the boilermaker 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and gear on and all that good stuff and um. 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I ended up at Purdue 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: was because so it's out of Purdue in Maryland at 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: the time. And I took a visit to Maryland and 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: I walked into the field and it was like, yeah, 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: you gonna play that position right there. I'm like, well, 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: what up? Y'all want me look at y'all want me 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: look like that guy. I'm like, uh, They're like, yeah, 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: you know that's the position you gonna play like. They're like, 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: you know who that is, right, I'm like yeah, so 77 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm And it looked like you was just a man 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: amongst boys. And I was like, well, if you don't 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: really look like that, and I'm trying to play my 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: truth freshman year, this might not be the place for 81 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: me because I'm trying to play when I come out. So, yeah, 82 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: you use the reason I would end up at Ford 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: because yeah, you look too dog and big, like like 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: a man amongst boys out there, and I knew I 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: couldn't look like that as a truth freshman's that's funny 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: as hell. And you know what's funny thing is coach 87 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: Locksley and they're gonna stop using me for recruiting now, 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: like you away. But you know it's uh, you know, 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: so you you came right after a couple of guys 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: I played with with Sean Phillips, Hardwick, right after them. 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: And I was telling that, and I tell people all 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: the time, I said, you know, I had the career, 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: or part of the career that I had was because 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: of Shawan Phillips. You know, Sean Phillips was like a 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: silent assas on the other side. And you know as 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: well as anybody that if you don't have that other 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: dude on the other side, what they're gonna do. They're 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna slide your way then chip you you're 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: gonna get the triple formation over there. You're gonna get 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: a motion and crack that. You know, this stuff is 101 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: going to be crazy. So I tell people all the time, 102 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: and Sean Phillis was a was a sound assassin over there. 103 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: I know, I agree, I mean, Shoun doesn't get enough credit. 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean even what he did that produce He's want 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: to reason I end up there too. It's just well 106 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he was leaving and he had left 107 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But um, yeah, sound was a 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: dog man and pass rushers in general, Like, obviously it's 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: usually one player that gets all the attention, but if 110 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: you know other guys on the on that D line 111 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: with you, um most times, and not the guys that 112 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: we love to see, the von Miller's and whatnot, they 113 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: have other guys on their D line that are really 114 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: good that kind of helps them be successful. But you know, 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: obviously in the game when we play, it's the guy 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: that gets the sacks. But as pass rushers, you need 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: other pass rushers on that team on that line with 118 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: you too for you to be productive. You're right, And 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: it's it's always the quiet guys man to take a 120 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of the pressure off. Like I had Jamal Williams, 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Louise Castio, Igor Shansky who was who was some of 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: those guys on your team that you played with at 123 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: the time. Man, Like, they just didn't get the credit 124 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: that they deserve. I mean, wagging all them boys, they 125 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: got a ton of it, But who who was like 126 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: that on song? Hero Man? It just took the heat 127 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: off of everybody. Man, I would say, you know while 128 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: I was here in Seattle, is Brandon me Bang? You 129 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: know just that that that nose guard that just plugs 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: everything up. He demands a double team, not gonna single 131 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: him up. And it allowed everybody else to get those 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: one on ones. So I would go with Brandon Mebang. 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: And then when I was in Detroit, Corey Williams, you know, 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: a big fell in the middle. He allowed myself, Sue, Kyle, Vannenboss, 135 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: all of us to be able to get those one 136 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: on ones and and we dominated try to dominate those, 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: but there's always that one guy in there that doesn't 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: get enough credit because you know, the stats don't look pretty. 139 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: But if without those guys, the other guys couldn't eat, 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: You're right, And then me Bang he was he was 141 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: also a leader like he was also somebody that was respected. 142 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: And I was talking about this the other day, and 143 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of like the new school guys, right, 144 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: like I always hate it when you had the guys 145 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: that played in the late seventies, eighties and nineties where 146 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: they always say, oh back when we played, you know, 147 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: we ain't having any any teeth right when we don't 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: use hell mans. They're like, in a way, kind of 149 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: hating on the new school guys. You're like, dude, just 150 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: you had your time, now and sit your ass down, 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like you you were great 152 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: at what you did, but sit your ass down. But 153 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the game now, man. And the other 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: day I'm watching the Falcons and Green Bay play and uh, 155 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to a thirty or thirty five yard passed 156 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: down the field, and I'm I'm seeing one of the 157 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: d line and get up and laugh and joke and 158 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and and play around with Aaron Rodgers. And I'm like, 159 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: and I've seen the same thing in the Denver game 160 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: against the Jets and the wide receivers. They're both owing 161 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: three teams. They both I think tied at ten, and 162 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: you got the wide receivers dancing and laughing and joking, 163 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, am I like that old dude? 164 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Now they're sitting back hayting because that wouldn't fly. Like 165 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: that wouldn't fly. You know, I'll take a tail store. 166 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: We started out one in three and two thousand and 167 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: seven when I was with the Charges and your Mind 168 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: you we got lt and uh Lorenz O'Neill and Chris Dilban, 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers and all these guys, all these older casts, 170 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Randall Golf, god Think Godfrey Nels guys going. But we 171 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: had a bunch of older guys on the team that 172 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: just wasn't having it. I just I just don't want 173 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: to feel old man. But what what happened in the 174 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: locker room with you guys? Like when when stuff wasn't 175 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: going right? Who was that guy, Like, give me a situation, 176 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: who would step up? And it's kind of take control 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: of what's going on. Well, first off, on what you 178 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: just mentioned, you know, talking about not trying to be 179 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: that guy, the old head that kind of views things 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: differently or whatnot. But like, I actually got to watch 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the locker room change. If you're fortunate enough to play 182 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: long enough, obviously you've seen it, you'll see the locker 183 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: room dynamics change a little bit to the point where 184 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: you know guys are in there, you know their their 185 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Instagram live. I'm like, the locker room is the place 186 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: where like, like nothing else is involved, it's just us 187 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: and we're talking about whatever. You can't do that anymore 188 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: with the new wave of guys. But as far as 189 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: for you know, your question on on you know, um 190 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: things changing and whatnot. I mean, I just think I 191 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: just think it just changes every every decade or so, 192 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Things Just like the new 193 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: kids nowadays, they're they're they're into you know, showing everything 194 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: off right. They want to they want to let you know. 195 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: I think I remember seeing somebody, you know, they're filming 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: the the team means on Instagram Live. You know what 197 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, what are you doing? Like that's that's 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just a new age, bro, 199 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: It's just a new age. These kids are doing different things. 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And now the eldest daughter, 235 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: who looks to be about nine or ten, has secured 236 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: herself in the booster seat. Dad zips the bad clothes 237 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: and they're off. Ah, but looks like Mom doesn't realize 238 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: her coffee cup is still on the roof of the car, 239 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: and there it goes. Oh, that's a shame that mug 240 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: was a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff. Just 241 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: nailed the big stuff, like making sure your kids are 242 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: buckled correctly in the right seat for their agent's eyes. 243 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Learn more NHTSA to slash the right seats h s 244 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: A dot GOV the right seat brought to you by 245 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: NITZA and they ad council You guys, man at one 246 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: point had the most dominant defensive football I mean period, 247 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: and y'all had a run. What was what was that like? Man? 248 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: Like being on that team because there were so many 249 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: big personalities, there were so many big guys, but it 250 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: always seemed like everybody was on the same page. Like 251 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: nobody was trying to outshine nobody. Nobody was there was 252 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: no finger point. You guys were, like I said, so 253 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: dominant in such a collective group. Man, what was what 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: was it like at that time? Man? It was awesome? 255 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: And you know what what made us so good and 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: so so great? I think it's not necessarily the stuff 257 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: we did on the field. Is like we you know, 258 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room, you cool with a 259 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: couple of guys outside of the locker room. Right on 260 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: game day, we all come together. We're gonna ride together. 261 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: But the difference was that all of us actually until 262 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: this day, still hang out with one another. Our kids. 263 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: We have birthday parties, all the kids, you know, we're 264 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: all the kids come together that were go on vacations together. 265 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: I mean, these are all things that we're still doing 266 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: to today. So I think it's just the genuine love 267 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: we have for one another. Outside of football. We weren't 268 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: just co workers, we were actually family. And I think 269 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: that's what made us so great and also not want 270 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: to let that person next to you down, you know, 271 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, because we had that personal relationship now is 272 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: and I gotta ride for Mike Bennet, I gotta ride 273 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: for Bottom because I know their kids like their kids 274 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: like it's almost like I feel responsible for their kids 275 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean. And and it 276 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: just it just made us great, and it made us 277 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: go out there and play for one another. And that's 278 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: why we were so great for so long. And I 279 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: always say that too. When the great teams, the players 280 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: run the team. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm 281 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: sure Coach Carroll is a great coach, but the players 282 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: control the locker room. And when it was time for 283 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: us to tighten up, the coaches had to say anything. 284 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: We we ran the locker room. And it seems like 285 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: you guys had that same type of deal going on. 286 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt, we ran the locker room. But 287 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy, Coach Carroll actually sets it up 288 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: for that. You know, he doesn't like you know how 289 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: coaches hype up before the team before the game, like 290 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: before we go out. You know, coach comes in the middle, 291 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: and you know, does his rob Rod and all that. 292 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: Coach Carroll doesn't speak to the team at all, you 293 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying before the game, because he wants 294 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: the team to be able to lead itself. He wants 295 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: to he wants the leaders to kind of lead the team. So, um, 296 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You have to have those 297 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room. And and accountability is huge, 298 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: right Um, being able to hold each other accountable but 299 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: not be disrespectful. And how we we we we expect 300 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: that from you, right, So everybody respected one another, but 301 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: we held each other accountable. And it speaks back to 302 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the guys leading the team and not 303 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: needing a coach to necessarily, you know, get you hyped 304 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: up or anything like that. And you guys had a 305 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: had a great team, man like, just on both sides 306 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: of the ball. But Russell Wilson, dude, I mean I 307 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: had hell playing against him. And when I'll never forget 308 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: my my last made my last year over the year 309 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: before my last in Buffalo, we played them in Toronto 310 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and Dave, I'll be y'all dropped like fifty you want 311 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: us right that point? Like fifty play I do. I 312 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: never had fifty fifty piece put on me before in 313 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: my life, right, And they were just running the hell 314 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: out of that option play where he's gonna pull it 315 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: or give it to Marshall, and they were running it 316 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: and running it, and I just was hoping that that 317 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: game clock just saying zero rolls across the board because 318 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: they just was gonna run that damn play over and over. Man. 319 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: Just what obviously everybody see the he's he's a magician 320 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: on the field and all the things he can do 321 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: and make plays. Man, But what what is about him 322 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: that just separates him and why he's had this longevity 323 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: that he's had so far. Man that boys like Hudini. Man, 324 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: he's making everybody miss you know what I'm saying. Um, 325 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: But I would say that the biggest thing with russ 326 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Man is one he knows who he is. Um. He's 327 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: extremely confident and he really believes everything that you hear 328 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: him say on game day or whatever, right, he really 329 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: all he believes if he has an opportunity, all he 330 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: needs is one chance and he'll go out there and 331 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: make something things happen. Um. I mean I've seen the boy. 332 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: I've seen him through four interceptions in the game fourth quarter, 333 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: rolls around and tells us, hey, hey, guys, like let's 334 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: stay in it, Like, let's stay in it. And half 335 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: of us are looking at it, like, bro, we're down 336 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: fourteen points, you know, gave up five and you're not 337 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: throw five in its actually like your partner. And but 338 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: like he's like, hey, all I needed one chance, and 339 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: guess what he goes and do. He goes and pulls 340 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: that game out, wins the game. You know, I'm saying, 341 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: get him two drives back to back. He went out there, 342 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: slashed him up, got us to the second Super Bowl. 343 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: So um, you know, I mean, I just think he 344 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: really believes all he needs an opportunity. He really believes, 345 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: uh that that he can be great, and that's what 346 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: he's chasing. And that's why every year since year one 347 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: he's gotten better. I mean, statistically everything, he's gotten better. 348 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: And this year not be the man, and he's still 349 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: finding ways to get better. And if he's not the 350 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: NBP of the league, he's definitely in the talks this year, 351 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: And which is insane to me because like, you guys 352 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: had a dynasty and I read I read something some 353 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: time ago where you were talking about like that play 354 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl how it kind of in a 355 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: sense broke up that dynasty for a little bit, maybe 356 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: changed like change the course of the locker room, Like 357 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: what what happened during that time? Like how did that 358 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: inflate everything y'all had going on? Yeah, So I think 359 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: I think in the in the moment, me personally, I 360 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: didn't really feel that right. I didn't think of it 361 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, I I'm onto the next player. 362 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm on to the next season, Like let's 363 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: let's get this thing rolling. We got something special here. 364 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: But I do think some guys kind of started to 365 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: to to doubt. I guess the message something somewhat because 366 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: of how things played out. A lot of people might 367 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: feel like it was pop poltics as well on basically 368 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: why we didn't run in or whatever the case may be. 369 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different things out there that 370 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: I think could that play, and every individual, obviously um 371 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: took it in differently, you know what I I mean, marciall 372 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: might feel completely different from Russell Wilson or or myself. 373 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, for me, it was just man like, 374 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: let's trap them up, let's go back out there, and 375 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: let's go win us another. But then when I look 376 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: back at it, I do think some guys uh felt 377 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: some kind of way because it felt that camaraderie kind 378 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: of shift a little bit, or the message of the 379 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: philosophy shift a little bit in the way that game 380 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: played out, And maybe you guys held onto it a 381 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: little bit longer than they should have, because I think 382 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: we could have gone out there in one another one 383 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: uh the next year, if if we would have just 384 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: kept that same mindset. I always always talked to LT 385 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: about that and us, like, man, we had some squads 386 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: oh six oh seven, No way, that short run we 387 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: had and it's it's so hard, man, you're talking about Russell. 388 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: It's so hard when you have that type of a dynasty, 389 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: that type of a team, because you know, I forget that, 390 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: forget that one play you guys had. You got contracts 391 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: coming up, Guys get hurt. You know, people trying to 392 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: get paid if you aren't, you're trying to get paid 393 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: at that point because you earned it. So you know 394 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: that team is breaking up at that point, man, Like, 395 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: when when did you guys know that that was starting 396 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: to happen? And for us, I started seeing guys get traded. 397 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I started seeing guys get released and you know, Michael 398 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Turner had left one year, and then this person and 399 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: that person and you started to see god to break up. 400 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: What when did that happen with you? Were you like, okay, yeah, 401 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: things are things are changing a little bit, you know 402 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: what we we and as you know, right in the NFL, 403 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: it's hard, it's hard to keep the same team around 404 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: for two, three or four years because because what you 405 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: just mentioned contracts, guys needing more money, or guys getting 406 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: released or traded or whatever the case may be. But honestly, 407 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: up like we were, I think I felt like we 408 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: were pretty dug on good and able to win the 409 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl my first four years and the first four 410 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: years with Seattle, whether it's thirteen four and fifteen, sixteen 411 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: and seventeen was the year where everything kind of shifted, 412 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: uh And it wasn't more of you know, contract stuff, 413 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: but more of injuries. You know, I went out shown 414 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: uh camp chance to win out sharing towards Achilles that year, 415 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: Upolis Achilles that year. I mean, so many guys were 416 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: just banged up, and it was like, man, are these 417 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: guys getting old or you know, so we start looking 418 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: to to kind of move out of of these contracts 419 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: because everybody was making big money, you know, saying everybody 420 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: everybody I just mentioned was was probably top five, top 421 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: ten at their positions. So um, you know, it becomes 422 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: a business decision for the organization. Do we get rid 423 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: of these guys and get somebody cheaper? You know, all 424 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: these different things. So I would say twenty seventeen was 425 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: with the year where it completely changed. You know, you 426 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: flip the page and it's a whole different team, It's 427 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: a whole different vibe. I mean, you look at the 428 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: team right now, it's only three guys. Four guys I 429 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: believe that are from the Super Bowl years, you know 430 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. And the fact that there's four of 431 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: them is still impressive. 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I knew when I when I went to Buffalo, 477 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: and initially I didn't want to go to Buffalo, like 478 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: I was scratching and your Buddy Knicks, a gam called me. 479 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: But Buddy was like, hey, we you know we're picking 480 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: you up off a Waivers And I was like, Buddy, 481 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: I love you. I actually love this the fan base 482 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: of Buffalo. But y'all owing six right now, I'm not 483 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: coming out. I'm not coming I don't care what you say. 484 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not coming out there. And you had your stent 485 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: with with the Lions as a rookie sixteen, you know 486 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I was the only player ever 487 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: to to go O sixteen and win the Super Bowl. 488 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: So to go open sixteen as a rookie in the NFL, 489 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: it was to the point where, like for me, I 490 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: almost was embarrassing the people I played in the league. 491 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like, yeah, you who 492 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: you played for Cleveland? You know what I'm saying. Like 493 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: I would always say like I had to pick the 494 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: next worst team, right, So it was just one of 495 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: those you go out after your first year, you gotta 496 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: tell me I can't even turn up, Bro, I can't 497 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: even turn up. Like think about that, Bro, you can't 498 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: even go out and tell people you play in the league. 499 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that that's like, uh, 500 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: you know you have that Uh a star was up, bros. 501 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: Hey who you're playing for? Now? What's going on? So 502 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: just that that transition though, what I would say the 503 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: difference was, at least from my benach point going from 504 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Detroit to Seattle was culture. Like culture is a big difference, 505 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: and I think it plays a big role in and 506 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: how successful a team can be. Man. And you know 507 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the culture in Detroit and kind of like football everywhere, 508 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: it's real militant, you know, uh straightforward. You know you 509 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: can't some some coaches that you hadn't tucked your your 510 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: hoodie in and all kinds of mess right. But you 511 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: get to Seattle, Man, they got music playing. You know, 512 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: we're shooting hoops before team meetings. It's just a good vibe. 513 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: And um, that's why I think they've had so much 514 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: success over this last decade because everybody's just having fun. 515 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: It ain't it don't feel so so um militant. And 516 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: so you know, straight by the book type situation. It's, hey, 517 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: have a good time once you go on that football field, 518 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: turn up even more. I say the same thing, and 519 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I say it all the time, Like when I see 520 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: these coaches coming in NFL for the first time and 521 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: they come in super strict. They come in, Uh yeah, 522 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: chuck your jerseys, do this, do that. And the first 523 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: thing coming out my head is you guys gonna lose. 524 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: You guys gonna suck because you can't come in there 525 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: treating guys like their kids. These kids, these guys, these 526 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: men have families, these guys, these men are rich already, 527 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: the successful. This reason why they hear you come and 528 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: treat them like kids. You know, it's just not gonna 529 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: end well for you, and those guys are are completely different. No, 530 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. You can't. You can't. I mean, 531 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: it's it's one of the few places, right thinking about this, 532 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: it's one of the places where the guy you charge 533 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: makes the least amount of money out of all the 534 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: guys who's directed and traffic on. Right, So like in 535 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: understanding that, it's more of a man, Cliff every he 536 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: got a wife and kids, Like why and I got 537 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: a wife to be like? Why would I talk crazy 538 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: to him? Why would I try to try to on him? 539 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: Why would I trying to make play him as if 540 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: he's a child. You know what I'm saying, Talk to 541 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: him like a girl. Man because he understands he needs 542 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: to go out there and ball out so you can 543 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: keep getting them checked so he can take care of 544 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: his family. Right. So I just think some coaches they 545 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: got that, maybe that college mindset where you know, when 546 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: kids are eighteen, you can do that, but when you're 547 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: talking to a thirty year old, you gotta you gotta 548 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: chill out a little bit. Yeah, I always I always 549 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: thought about him back in my head. I wanted to 550 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: play for coach Carroll because I love this energy, right, 551 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, this dude, he's gonna get me 552 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: hyped up, and I'm gonna get him hyped up. And 553 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna get me hyped up. Like is he is 554 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: he liked that all the time? Is he like that? Seven? 555 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: It's unreal, bro, I ain't a lot to you. Like, So, 556 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: you know, how you become a free agent the TM 557 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: the coach calls you and you know, kind of kinda 558 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: like recruiting all over again in a sense. Right, So 559 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: he calls me and I'm like, okay, that's up. Hey, 560 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: how how would you feels to be a seahawk? And 561 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm trying to make this happen and 562 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: all like just super interject and I'm like, oh, this 563 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: feels like college all over again. What I'm saying when 564 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: you get recruited. I'm like, Okay, cool coach. I appreciate it, 565 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, But in my head, I'm like, there's no way, 566 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is just all the fluff. Man. It 567 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: took me two years, Bro to buy in to him 568 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: really having that much energy. I'm talking about every day, 569 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: just super high. There's a lot of energy. The only 570 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: only coach I know that's he might be seven years 571 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: old now, Man, get out on the football fielding and 572 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: launching it sixty seven yards downfield like playing catch, and 573 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy, Bro. And and I think he 574 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: he's a genuine thing. But I also think he understands 575 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: that that stuff is contagious. You know. Saying it's contagious 576 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: for the coaches is contagious for the players. If you're 577 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: head man, the olwa he's got in the building has 578 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the most energy. How can you not match that, you 579 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's been ever since I 580 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: met him, he's been like that, man, And I ain't 581 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: got it's been. It was a great time playing for him. 582 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Do you guys still you still keep in contact with 583 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: him at all, that is, at any point you guys 584 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: still talk, because for me, I still talk. I just 585 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: had way Phillips on the other day and still to 586 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: this day, I think Way Phillips I said, you know what, 587 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, he don't want to take any credit for it. 588 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want you to probo a couple of 589 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: times because of you, because I know you put me 590 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: in so one on one situations with the back. Uh 591 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, you put me in some really good situations 592 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: to win. So I just had a connection with my coaches. 593 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: You still wrapped to them at all. Oh yeah, I 594 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: still talk to coach Carrol. I mean, I'm I still 595 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: talk to the GM John Snyder. I talked to uh, 596 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: the D line coach. I mean I've always been that 597 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: kind of person where like I mean, we we and 598 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: this together, you know what I'm saying, Like we were 599 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: about to go out here in battles together. Both of 600 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: our lives musics they're on the line. If I don't 601 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: play well, I get cut and fired, and guess what, 602 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: you might mess around get cutting fired too. So it's 603 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: it's one of those spaces where I just built relationships 604 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: with the guys, and I checked in with him. I 605 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: still talk to Dan Quinn down in Atlanta. I mean 606 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: I talked to a wide ranging coaches that that that 607 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: has been a part of my life still to this day. Again, 608 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: like I said, I think it's just important because we 609 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: we understood that we needed each other for us to 610 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: have success in the league, but also for our family 611 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: and friends. Yeah. So one of the guys, man is 612 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: just it. I was talking about it the other day. 613 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: How in the hell he not? He's not playing somebody's 614 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: earl Thomas right, Um, dude, I'm so you know, kind 615 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: of upsets me because it's like I don't care what 616 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: you say about somebody to do play hard as hell. 617 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: He played the game right, and I don't care if 618 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: he fought me. You know, you many teammates I fought before. 619 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean some of my closest friends that we fight 620 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: in the practice and camp and then we go to 621 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: the crib after and we're playing the Xbox and drinking. 622 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just happened, man, 623 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: So like to see anybody say something about that, dude, 624 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: it's just it bothers the hell out of me. But 625 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: what you guys still talk at all. Yeah, I mean, 626 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: in fact, I talked to Um probably four days ago. 627 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, you know, I check in with him. Um. 628 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, kind of going back to what we 629 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the show. How how it's a 630 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: different vibe now in comparison to to what it was 631 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: when I played, because it was nothing for us to 632 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: get in an argument in the fight and then later 633 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: on that day go to dinner, you know what I'm saying, 634 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: and later on that day, go go do something, you 635 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, uh, it's shocking to me 636 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: that he's not in the league right now. It's crazy 637 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: because in what space at least, I can't remember off 638 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the top of my head that a player was All 639 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Pro one year and then out of the league the 640 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: next year, and not due to injury, you know what 641 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that don't make no sense. And then 642 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: there's so many injuries happening throughout the league and yet 643 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: to tell me this man, who I think is still 644 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna wear a gold jacket at some point, can't have 645 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: a job, and he's still he's still in tip top shape, 646 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: he's still you know, you can play some ball and 647 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: he can change up the defense, you know what I'm saying. 648 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on. I don't know 649 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: if I don't want to. I don't want to go 650 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: down that road as far as or what they might 651 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: be going to him. But it's just a weird space 652 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: to be in to see someone that's so talented, still 653 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: playing at the high level, still coming off of All 654 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Pro season and not be on somebody's team right now. 655 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah you could. You won't share it, but I will. 656 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's times you get black ball and I'm 657 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: not saying that people are collectively keeping them out, but 658 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, for me personally, being a former player, you 659 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: hate to see an incident of one thing shadow over 660 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: Moody's greatness and what they did over the body of 661 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: their career, you know, because that, you know, to come 662 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: across Errol Thomas is not easy. You're not gonna come 663 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: across too Mineo Thomas is so to even see anybody 664 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: say anything like that, it's just crazy. Now, It's it's 665 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: it's weird, man. And then um, you know you talk 666 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: about just being blackballed or whatever. Is it about winning 667 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: or is it about saving face? What I'm saying, what, like, 668 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: what is it about? Because if you're really about winning, 669 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to get the best players in there 670 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: to execute. Now. I don't know what the word is 671 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: on him as a teammate. I can speak as a 672 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: guy that played with him for four years. The man 673 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: is awesome, you know what I mean. Now, just like 674 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: anybody else in the locker room, everybody comes from different backgrounds, 675 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody comes you know, everybody's a little different. But once 676 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: you actually get to know him, and I think that's 677 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: part of the problem with the Ravens is they didn't 678 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: really get to know him. They didn't know him like 679 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: we knew him that so you can accept and embrace 680 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: who he really is because guess what, on Sundays, the 681 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: boiling give you all. You got the boiling out there 682 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: and involved out right. So for us it was okay, 683 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: he's just being right now, but he is also like, 684 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: we know what we're gonna get out of them on Sundays, 685 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: And it's just unfair. It's it's it's unfair that you 686 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: get enough time to to kind of prove to his 687 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: teammates that he is a great teammate, that he is 688 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: a great player. And it's just unfortunately he's not on 689 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: the roster right now, no, no doubt, no doubt. So 690 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: speaking of great stuff, man, you um, you got a 691 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: bunch of great stuff going on, right What about that? 692 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: The charity? Yeah, So we just had our seventh annual 693 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: dining to make a difference, and it's it's basically a 694 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: celebrity and I hate saying celebrity celebrity waiter event where 695 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: all my home boys, all the Seahall players basically your 696 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: waiters for the evening and people buy tickets and it's 697 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: the raise is to raise money for for my foundation, 698 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: the Cliff Every Family Foundation, which is geared towards juveni 699 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: diabetes and um, you know, just living a healthy lifestyle. 700 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: And this year we we switched it up a little 701 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: bit though. We actually had players deliver meals to all 702 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: the v I p s to their actual home, obviously 703 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: going by the COVID protocol and different things like that. 704 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: But it was a great turn out. We they were 705 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: able to raise over a hundred and seventy thousand dollars 706 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: um in in in the pandemic and also obviously a 707 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: lot of that money's gonna go back into the city 708 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: here in Seattle. But it was a great It was 709 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: a great um event. And if you want more information 710 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: on what the foundation is doing, check out Cliff Ariel 711 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: Family Foundation dot org. I mean, we're we're out here 712 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: trying to you know, make change. That's dope, man, that's dope. 713 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Anything else you got you are you coaching, you coaching 714 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: or something to right now? What you got going? Man? Actually, 715 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I just coached that All Star game. Man, my first 716 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: time coaching being on the sideline. I just coached a 717 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: high school All star game out here, and uh, it 718 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: was great, man, it was fun. Uh you know, and 719 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: my boys went out there and got like eleven or 720 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: twelve sacks, you know, So I can't, I can't. I 721 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: can't be mad at it. But it was a it 722 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: was a great outing. It was good for the kids 723 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: because a lot of these seams right now, they're not 724 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: getting the senior season, so they can't get that film 725 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: to get that recruit right that recruitment going. So that 726 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: All Star game was to help them get more film, 727 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: to get some schools to kind of notice them and hopefully, 728 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, be able to get a scholarships. One. That's dope, 729 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: my dude, Hey man, I appreciate it. Uh. You know, anytime, 730 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: anytime you need me, dog, I'm there. Uh, please let 731 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: me know if I can step in and and soon 732 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: just pandemic over. Man, We'll catch up and I'll make 733 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: sure we get all this stuff post up on your foundation, 734 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: everything else you got going on for certain, Man, I 735 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you having me. Man, keep doing your thing. Bro. 736 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, Man, since I was seventeen, I kind 737 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: of always looked up to you, Bro, and I'm still 738 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: pay attention to the different moves that you're making. Man, 739 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: So keep inspiring, keeping yourself man, and um next time 740 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're chopping up soon, don Dale. Bro appreciate it, Yes, sir, 741 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm good. Hey guys, thanks for listening today. I had 742 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: a great time talking to uh Cliff Avro uh that 743 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: leasing the Boom team that they had up there. We've 744 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: got a chance to talk about Pete Carroll Man and 745 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: some of the misconceptions about him and his energy levels, 746 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: which is just ridiculous. I think he's what's seventy years 747 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: old now, but he has energy as a thirty year 748 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: old just running around and bouncing around. Also, Um, the 749 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: game has changed a little bit from the time that 750 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: we played, I played, and how the locker rolls have 751 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: just shifted over the time. So I appreciate you guys listening. 752 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: Then make sure you subscribe to the Shawn Merriman lights 753 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: Out podcast. We're gonna keep this thing rolling. See you 754 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: again next week. View Sonic. My viewboard software is a 755 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: powerful tool that enables teachers to build dynamic lesson plans, 756 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: import engaging content, and share lessons with students whether they're 757 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: in class, learning remotely, or a combination of both. 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