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Speaker 1: Harbaugh sending people because it's it's not illegal on game

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Speaker 1: type of pick. So they get him for basically nothing right,

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Speaker 1: and then one of the biggest swings, Javon Hargrave made

428
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Speaker 1: a big tackle for the Niners early in that game,

429
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Speaker 1: and the Niners paid him four years eighty million dollars

430
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Speaker 1: and they gave him forty million dollars guaranteed. He was

431
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: one of the better players on last year's Eagles team

432
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: who was obviously representing the NFC in the Super Bowl

433
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: and just just a dominant roster Well, the Eagles let

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Speaker 1: him walk and they upgraded the position. So think about

435
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: the Niners to get this guy. They stole the guy

436
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: away from the Eagles. And usually anytime you can steal

437
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: a guy, a star player, a key component to a

438
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: defense or offense to a team that you're probably gonna

439
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: have to go through is really your competition, is a

440
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: no brainer, especially if you have a need at that position.

441
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: The problem for the forty nine ers, because it was

442
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: a no brainer for the Niners to sign this guy,

443
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: is the Eagles lucked out, and lucked out's the wrong word.

444
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: They had this ammo because they had the Saints pick

445
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: that they were in to draft a high end player,

446
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and then because of the off the field Jalen Carter

447
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: falls to him and they're able to get him at nine,

448
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: and I think there's a chance. Are we sure that

449
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, who looks fantastic this year, would be playing

450
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Speaker 1: as well anywhere else, like if you would put him

451
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, if you had put him in Seattle. I

452
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: don't know, And no one disputed his talent, but clearly

453
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: there were some major question marks, and the Eagles had

454
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Speaker 1: the infrastructure, so they get to upgrade the player at

455
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: a way cheaper price point. So I think part of

456
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Speaker 1: the trade deadline is there are different levels. Right when

457
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: you trade at the margins, The forty nine ers just

458
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: traded nothing for Randy Gregory. If he gives five or

459
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Speaker 1: six sacks, it's a home run. Also, if he doesn't

460
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: work out or something weird happens, you can just cut him.

461
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: Those are easy trades to make. Where it gets difficult,

462
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: it's like Mike Evans is available, and I know this

463
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: guy's not gonna be available, but Aaron Donald's available. Back

464
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: when Jalen Ramsey's available, A lot of teams think about

465
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: doing it, but it's very very expensive to do that. Right,

466
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to bid against other people, which is

467
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna drive up the price. You're gonna have to give

468
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: a lot of draft resources, and sometimes you immediately regret

469
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: doing something right. Look at the Panthers. This is getting

470
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: talked about all the time, and rightfully so the pressure

471
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: on Bryce Young to be a good player is really hard.

472
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Speaker 1: Anytime you're just the number one overall pick, everyone's looking

473
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Speaker 1: at you, everyone's talking about you, everyone is like, you're

474
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Speaker 1: gonna be the franchise. Especially if you're a Panther fan.

475
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: You're like, we've already seen Cam Newton. I know what

476
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback looks like, and I guy, this guy's

477
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of small. But think about what they traded Christian

478
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: McCaffrey last year. They had to include DJ Moore in

479
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Speaker 1: the trade, and then because they lose DJ Moore, their

480
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: offense is fucking terrible and they're headed for, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: a top five draft pick, more than likely the number

482
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Speaker 1: one overall draft pick, but they don't have to pick

483
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Speaker 1: so because they're bottoming out, they don't even get to

484
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: reap the reward for bottoming out, so it's hard to improve.

485
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Speaker 1: And I just think that these trades, like there are

486
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Speaker 1: results in what you have to give up. There's a

487
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: price there's an opportunity cost, and anytime you start bidding

488
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: on the better players, you're like, well, I'm gonna have

489
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: to pay a premium for this. Anything less than big

490
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: time output getting back hurts. Right. When the Rams traded

491
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Speaker 1: for von Miller a couple of years ago and they

492
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: gave I think they gave a second and a third,

493
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: which was a lot given that they had already traded

494
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: all these ones, so they were just gonna have no picks.

495
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of where the meme of less sneed saying

496
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: fuck them picks went viral, and von Miller had to

497
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: be good for them, right. It wasn't just anything less

498
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: than what he gave them. A sack in Week seventeen,

499
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Speaker 1: a sack in every playoff game, a sack in the

500
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: super Bowl. It was all. It was all worth it.

501
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: But if he had not been a high end player,

502
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: it would have been a disaster. And it's why some

503
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: of the times we've seen over the years when a

504
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Speaker 1: team trades a second or third round pick and they're

505
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: a fringe playoff team or a wild card team and

506
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: that player is not good enough, you feel like you

507
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: just wasted a draft pick, because that draft pick is

508
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: very very valuable, right, especially for the Eagles. For example,

509
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: a second or third round pick, when you're paying all

510
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: these players a lot of money, is they look at

511
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: it like a cost controlled starter for the next four years. Right.

512
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Part of making the Tyreek Hill trade for the Chiefs was,

513
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: we get a lot of picks. We're gonna have some

514
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: extra cap room, and we're gonna have some wiggle room.

515
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: But we got a hit on the picks. And what

516
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: do they do. They hit on a ton of picks,

517
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: and they're able to build their franchise because their quarterback's

518
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: making so much money. This is what I said the

519
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: other day about the Cleveland Browns. Next year, you're paying

520
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson on your cap sixty three million dollars. Well,

521
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they still owe the Texans one more

522
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: first round pick, so they're not gonna have their first

523
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: round pick. Could be wrong on that, but I'm pretty

524
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: sure I'm right, and they're gonna There's gonna be a

525
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the guys they draft in the

526
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: mid to late rounds to hit on three or four

527
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: of them because they're gonna need their ability to start.

528
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: It's why the Rams have been kind of impressive they've

529
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: hit on some picks and they've just got some functional

530
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: guys and they're gonna be an eight or nine win

531
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: team because they had to get some cheap labor they

532
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a choice. And then for the first time

533
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: in a long time, this upcoming offseason, they're just gonna

534
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: have a normal set of picks and they're they're gonna

535
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: be able to improve their team, which with cheaper labor.

536
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: So there's a big balance. Anytime you have the opportunity

537
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, you gotta pull the trigger.

538
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: And that's where I think it's gonna get dicey for

539
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: teams like Miami, who I do not think is the

540
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: player away, Buffalo who probably would have been a player away,

541
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: but they have all these injuries on defense. I like,

542
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: would you trade your first round pick, let's just say

543
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Mike Evans to put him with Diggs and Kincaid, Like,

544
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, is there a defensive player worth kind

545
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: of breaking the bank for? Are you good enough? But

546
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: also do you kind of got to take big swings

547
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: when you have Josh Allen under contract? If you're the Ravens,

548
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: would you be willing to do something pretty bold? That's

549
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: the best part about being the Chiefs. Everything's house money.

550
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: You've already won a couple of super Bowls. You're kind

551
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: of in control. If something that you can't pass up

552
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: is laid out in front of you, you do. If not,

553
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: you roll with your squad, you take your chances. So

554
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: I think the key to this entire trade deadline is

555
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: cost benefit analysis, and it always is. But like, how

556
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: close am I right? Like if I'm Detroit, like I'm

557
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: just not doing anything. I got a young nucleus of guys.

558
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm probably a year away from truly being in a

559
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: position to really make noise. I'm riding this out one

560
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: more year, letting my guys develop. I'm not doing a

561
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: deal like blowing a first round pick on a guy

562
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: when I'm probably a year away. But if I'm the Niners,

563
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: if I'm the Eagles, if the right thing gets laid

564
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: in front of me, fuck it right. Anything less than

565
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl is a disappointment, and that's where to me,

566
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs now every year with Andy and Mahomes would

567
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: be a disappointment if they don't win it. But they've

568
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: already banked a couple, right, so it helps not winning

569
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: it when you've won two in the last like four years.

570
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: To me, the Niners or the Eagles, if they're not

571
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, slash winning it, it's a major disappointment.

572
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: The Bills, you know, they've been to one conference championship

573
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: over the last several years. I think going to the

574
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: conference championship is impressive for them. But when you pay

575
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Speaker 1: a quarterback this much, when you've been so close, obviously

576
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: you would love to taste that Super Bowl. So like

577
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: to me, they're a team that's going to be very tempted.

578
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: That wouldn't shock me if they kind of, you know,

579
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: shoot their load on something where you go, holy shit.

580
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Like to me, they got in their back pocket a

581
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: trade just because of desperation. That could make some people

582
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: kind of their jaw drop. I love this time of year.

583
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I love the business kind of the baseball element to this.

584
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I love that we have a lot of general managers

585
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: that are willing to do this. I also think because

586
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: of the wealth of the NFL, owners are more likely

587
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: to take big contracts on. Obviously you got to be

588
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: able to fit it on your cap in the short term,

589
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: but just trade for guys that are under contract after

590
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: this year, and it makes a leak fun. It's just

591
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: an ad an element that's really kind of come I

592
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: don't know, the last half decade, the last six seven years,

593
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: with the amount of younger, aggressive guys running teams, and

594
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: then last but not least, Cousins versus Dak. Cousins statistically

595
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: had one of his better games, probably of his career

596
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: thirty five or forty five against a defense like that

597
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, he was fantastic. And Dak a

598
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: week ago against the Chargers on Monday Night Football, I

599
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: thought played the best game of the season, given the

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00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: throw that he made to Pollard and the touchdown pass

601
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: that he had to Cooks. And I think both of

602
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: them are great test studies, right I would like both

603
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: as my quarterback if they're making thirty percent what the

604
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: top quarterback's making. Just because you're in a given neighborhood, well,

605
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: if your house is five thousand square foot or you

606
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot less than the house that's sold for a

607
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: million dollars, doesn't mean your house just because you're in

608
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: the general vicinity is also worth that. And I think

609
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: sometimes just because you play quarterback and you're you're a

610
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: more than functional player, and you're a good player, you think, well,

611
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: just I'm the next guy up. That mentality has gotten

612
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: a lot of teams in trouble because I think one thing.

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Speaker 1: I looked at their numbers, Dak and Cousins. Obviously, Cousins

614
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: a little older. Cousins has started one hundred and forty

615
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: four games, Dak started one hundred and three. Dak's thirty,

616
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: he's thirty five. They have very very similar numbers. Cousins

617
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: touchdown to interception race about two point four to one,

618
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: Dak's two point five to one. They're both basically career

619
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent passers. In the playoffs, Cousins has started

620
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: two less games. Uh, he's got a five to one

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00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio sixty six percent. Dak started six games

622
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: eleven and five with six starts, similar percentage. I think

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00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: he's like sixty three. Both of them. If they are

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00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: making the right amount of money, right if the top

625
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks making fifty, if they're making thirty, you can build

626
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: a good enough team. And they're good enough. Their problem

627
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: gets where they are a guy making ninety ninety five

628
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: percent of what the top guy's getting. Because both of

629
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: them have fantastic skill sets, Cousins is the last of

630
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: a dying breed. Really good pocket quarterback, as we saw

631
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Dak is a really good playmaker. That's

632
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: always what he has. He's not he's an average pocket quarterback,

633
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: but outside the pocket, making plays with his legs, two throw.

634
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: He's always been good about that. Both of them bring

635
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: a lot of intangibles. Their key is the payment, how

636
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: much they are worth. It's why Cousins is about to

637
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: be a free agent. If you're a team and you

638
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: can get the guy for three years ninety million dollars

639
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Speaker 1: right average, thirty million dollars a year, guarantee every penny,

640
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: like that's a good deal. If you got to pay

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Speaker 1: the guy forty five million dollars a year, it's just not.

642
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: Unlike Mahomes, unlike a Lamar, unlike the truly top guys.

643
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Speaker 1: That extra ten fifteen to twenty million dollars of cap

644
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: space on a contract is there are certain type players

645
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: who need that extra help. Mahomes just doesn't right. We've

646
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: seen with Mahomes, you can put some random young guys

647
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: and he can just make shit happen. Cousins and Dak

648
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: need help, and they are the overwhelming majority of the league.

649
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks beside, Really the top couple guys need more

650
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: help than others. And I just think the key with

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Speaker 1: these two guys moving forward, because I think Cousin's gonna

652
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: be fascinating. Right, how much is he gonna get this offseason?

653
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna pay him. If you overpay him, it's like, well,

654
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: he's just he's hitting the market. He's used to making this.

655
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: That's on you if you're able to get him for

656
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: the right amount. And it's tough, right, there could be

657
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: several teams bidding. Who knows, he is a little older.

658
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a unique scenario. You can win with him.

659
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: He's proven now win in the playoffs. That's another story.

660
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: What I bet on either one of these guys to

661
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: be super Bowl champs? I would not, But do I

662
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Speaker 1: mind having like part of how many guys are really

663
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna be super Bowl champs? Right? Google the history of

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Speaker 1: the league. If you're going to the playoffs every single year,

665
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: your team's printing money, your fan base is happy, they

666
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: get disappointed in the second round. Still a hell of

667
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: a season, right, So, but the key is to properly

668
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: pay these guys. And this is not the NBA where

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Speaker 1: it's either like you got to max the guy or

670
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: give them the mid level. I think everyone just thinks

671
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: like you always got to pay the quarterback the top dollar.

672
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: You just don't. You can still properly pay him, have

673
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: a hard negotiation, you know, Jerry Krackt, and it's cost

674
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: them at the margins a little bit. Now, Dak a

675
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: little like Cousins. Remember last year, Cousins fourth and eight

676
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: checks it down, can be a little robotic. Dak can

677
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: turn into a turnover machine in these playoff games. They

678
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: got flaws. But either guy making seventy percent of what

679
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: the top guy makes mean that extra thirty percent you

680
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: can use to make your team. You're winning twelve games

681
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be in position to host a playoff game.

682
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: You can't really ask for much more in the NFL. Obviously,

683
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: you would love to have Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady.

684
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: News flash, your team's probably not gonna have those guys.

685
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: So if you can have Dak, if you can have Cousins,

686
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: and you can have a talented team around him, you're

687
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna be in pretty good shape. Let's get into my

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Speaker 1: player is polarizing because people think he's a system quarterback.

692
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: People think he's actually pretty good. People think he's an overachiever.

693
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: No one can quite figure him out. I think Rock

694
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Speaker 1: Purty's pretty good. Now. Do I think he's a top

695
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: five quarterback right now? I don't do. I think he's

696
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden in like the Dak and Cousins

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702
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Speaker 1: You just got to make the right decision. Football's hard.

703
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Speaker 1: You're gonna lose some games. But when you throw the

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Speaker 1: thing we call the mailbag at John middlecoff is the

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733
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Speaker 1: having a beer on the deck after work, decompressing, and

734
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Speaker 1: I thought about this this from Duncan. Officials have always

735
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: been bad, but the ones that were any good retired

736
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Speaker 1: and left for TV because it pays more. The other

737
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Speaker 1: issue is the fucking broadcast team always ask for their opinion,

738
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Speaker 1: and holy shit, how many times do these guys disagree

739
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Speaker 1: with what's called. It's like, every play here, Terry, what

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Speaker 1: do you think, well, Tony, there isn't a hold here

741
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: and the pass isn't catchable. So as a fan listening,

742
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: it's like, how the hell can we watch it and

743
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: think shit, no way, that's a penalty and then have

744
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: an ex official agree with us. Just sends us into

745
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: a frenzy. I think that will be the reason they

746
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: pay them full time. My idea is either get a

747
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: guy out of the booth or get full time full

748
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: time refs. Like hockey pays the refs, they get fine

749
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: for screwing up, sometimes even suspended. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I think the referees in the booth need to go.

751
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: I can't stand him. I just I don't like him

752
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: as a consumer. Like, that's a huge pet peeve of mine.

753
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from Terry McCauley. Now. It's

754
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: pretty clear that they put him there because everyone complains NonStop.

755
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: So you're like, let's go to a guy that knows

756
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Speaker 1: what they're talking about. You know, Fox goes to Blandino,

757
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Tony goes to McCauley, whoever the hell Collinsworth goes to.

758
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to hear from this guy now,

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00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Like you said, they were better refereen. I don't even

760
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: think Blandino was technically a referee. I think he just

761
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: ran the referees. Could be wrong on that one, but yeah, listen,

762
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 1: I do think it's a little complicated. I'm sure there'll

763
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: be some other questions about paying the refs full time.

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00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: They make a couple hundred grand, right, the NFL probably

765
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: views them as an expense that they're not looking to

766
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Speaker 1: spend more on. So if you're gonna pay them full

767
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: time and not allow them, right, Historically, some of these guys,

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00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: one's been a principal, one's been a lawyer, Like you

769
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: could have other jobs and you just did this on

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Speaker 1: the side in fairness to them. Even if I pay

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Speaker 1: Let's say I'm an owner and you're like, what's the

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Speaker 1: number we would have to get to to compensate these

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Speaker 1: guys where we just have them as our full time employees.

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Speaker 1: And let's say with an experienced referee, was like seven

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You go, well, okay, I'm

776
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Speaker 1: paying him seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. What am

777
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: I getting different on Sunday? Like what's he actually doing

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00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: during the week? That'd be my question, Like what are

779
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: they doing during the week? There would be any different.

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00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: So even if you are a principal, high school football coach,

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00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: a lawyer or whatever, how would your week change? Right?

782
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Speaker 1: Because one thing, when you work for the league, you

783
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: work at the league office, right, Or you work for

784
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: a team, you work for that team. But if you're

785
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: a referee, some live in Stockton, California, some live in Dallas, Texas,

786
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Speaker 1: some live in Indianapolis. Like what would they be doing

787
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Speaker 1: all week? Watching some films? And I bet they kind

788
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: of do anyway, watch a little film. But I I

789
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: wonder if owners just don't see I would say the

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Speaker 1: return on investment. So it's like, how do we pay

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Speaker 1: them as limit as possible? Now? Is that ideal? Obviously not,

792
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how we improve. I've been saying

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Speaker 1: this forever. These referees in the NBA in the NFL

794
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: have been bad for a long time, and in fairness

795
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Speaker 1: to them, one time, I think when I was a

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Speaker 1: senior in high school, I umpired for the little League,

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Speaker 1: the local little League, and Davis and I did. I

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Speaker 1: didn't do majors. I did triple A. So it was

799
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Speaker 1: pretty bad baseball. It was hard. I screwed up a call.

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Speaker 1: Kid cried that they lost a championship game. I've honestly

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Speaker 1: every once in a while think about that call. It

802
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Speaker 1: was way outside and I called to strike pretty sure,

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Speaker 1: was hot, wanted to go to my girlfriend's house, and

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of over it. The game's lasted forever,

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Speaker 1: but there's a human element to it all, so I

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Speaker 1: respect you guys. I think I refed a little in

807
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Speaker 1: college too. I know you don't talk college all that much,

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Speaker 1: but Ryan Day has suddenly turned into the complete opposite coach.

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Speaker 1: A very dominant defense while our go to play in

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Speaker 1: the red zone is a run up the middle with

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. Fascinating stuff. I actually think the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback's pretty intriguing. Kind of their Taysom Hill. I don't listen.

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill's grown on me this year. Without Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the Saints' offense? They'd be gone awful.

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Speaker 1: When you're at Ohio State, you have no excuse to

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Speaker 1: not have a high end defense. You get the best

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Speaker 1: recruits and you have unlimited money to buy a good

818
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. So the big knock on Ryan Day the

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Speaker 1: last several years is how could your defense be bad?

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Speaker 1: Every single year? You're getting sweet players that This is

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Speaker 1: not Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. The school has always been

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Speaker 1: good on defense. Urban Meyer Tressel my whole life. When

823
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Speaker 1: I close my eyes, I think defensive players. Same thing

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Speaker 1: with Penn State and same thing with Michigan. You should

825
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Speaker 1: always be good at defense at those institutions, and they

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Speaker 1: typically are Wisconsin as well, hell Iowa too. The Big

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Speaker 1: Ten to me is a defensive conference. And when they

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Speaker 1: got very offensive heavy, which you have to do in

829
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Speaker 1: modern football, emphasize the quarterback emphasize the wide receivers, but

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Speaker 1: you should always have the Nick Bosas and the Miles

831
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Speaker 1: Garretts and the Chase Youngs. I know Miles went to

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Speaker 1: Texa A and M, but you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: sweet linebacker, sweet DB's no excuse. Now, I will say

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Speaker 1: this about Penn State. I watched that game because I

835
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: was fascinated by It was basically a minor league NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Their offense was a fucking embarrassment in that quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: I've heard this from buddies in the NFL that have

838
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Speaker 1: gone through. I've heard this from the Joel Klatz. I

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Speaker 1: freak talent, like has elite attributes as a quarterback Josh

841
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Speaker 1: Allen level, just arm strength and can run. Well, I'm

842
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Speaker 1: watching the guy not just look like a deer in

843
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Speaker 1: the headlights. They were given a big game NFL or college.

844
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Speaker 1: That's one of the most atrocious and embarrassing offensive performances

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Speaker 1: you'll ever see. Because I thought Penn State's front seven

846
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Speaker 1: look like championship level but offensively and is their offensive

847
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Speaker 1: play caller? Is it their scheme? Is that the kid

848
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Speaker 1: just freaked out. I don't know, but it's not like

849
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State's quarterback played that well. That's the one thing

850
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: with these conferences, right they they don't play anybody. So

851
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: hopefully once we go to the twelfth team, can you

852
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: guys just all play each other like Conpenn State and

853
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Michigan in the non conference? Can you just play Kansas

854
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: State or Duke or just other normal programs when you're

855
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: playing col Poly and UMass and the School of the Blind, like,

856
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's no one wants that anymore. We have

857
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: to end that. It is a tragedy to do that

858
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: to your fan base, end to the consumer who is

859
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: consuming at a really high rate. College football is booming

860
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: right now, but to roll out. And this is why

861
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: I've never felt bad when Nick Saban bitches and moans

862
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: like about his fan base not showing up. It's like, Nick,

863
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: you're playing Austin p in early November. I'm sorry. People

864
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: would rather just go to the bar and drink and

865
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: watch other games, even if they live in Tuscaloosa. Better

866
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: guys do better, and hopefully there is no excuse now

867
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: to not do better. Am I confident that they will? No?

868
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: With sports betting and fantasy football becoming popular. I feel

869
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: like the NFL community is more toxic now than it

870
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: ever has been, people calling for coaches and players to

871
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: get fired more than ever. I'm a big believer in

872
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: things taking time or making small adjustments. For example, Tua

873
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: is playing well and just a few years ago nobody

874
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: thought he was any good and everybody wanted him trade

875
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: it a bench not a fan of the NFL culture

876
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: showing disrespect towards such a hard profession. What will it

877
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: take for people to realize turnover? I'm gonna call bullshit

878
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: on that one. I think people have been sitting on

879
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: their couch and watching football before fantasy football, before social media,

880
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: saying the same things. I remember being ten years old

881
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three screaming at my TV, we're human beings.

882
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Nothing is a bigger pet peeve than me is when

883
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: like a media member goes, there's a human side. Yeah,

884
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: we get it, guys, we know we're watching humans. I

885
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: don't think it's any more toxic than it ever has been.

886
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: And here's a reality Who cares what the fan or

887
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: some loser on social media things? Do you know? The

888
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: other thing that's starting to bother me is what game

889
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: was it? It was Oregon Washington State, and the Oregon kicker

890
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: who missed the kick against Washington said he had to

891
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: delete his social media and because it was so just negative.

892
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: And my take is like, yeah, guys, welcome to social media.

893
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: You can't have the days when everyone's kind of giving

894
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: you a reach around and putting you on top of

895
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: the world. When it goes bad, it's gonna get negative.

896
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: Like social media is an area of extremes. What do

897
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: you think. It's not some normal world where it's just

898
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: like your friends talking like normal humans. It's not that way.

899
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: So when people say I had to delete my account

900
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: it was too toxic, no shit, Welcome do social media now.

901
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: Obviously it gets more toxic when you're quote unquote public

902
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: figure or you lose a game at a big place.

903
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: But why do those people like it when things are

904
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: going well because everyone is in their dms commenting on

905
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: their posts that things are great and you love it.

906
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: You can't take the good without having the bad in

907
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: this world. But I think people have always talked like this.

908
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it has anything to do people been gambling.

909
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: The Black Sox happened in nineteen eighteen, like I got

910
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: news for you. People been gambling forever, just like college

911
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: kids have been getting paid well before nil. People have

912
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: been booing teams in the fifties and sixties like they

913
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: are in twenty twenty three. So it's just it's just

914
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: part of the deal. It's what makes sports such a

915
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: powerful thing. It's people care, and there's good with it,

916
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: there's bad with it. You know. You see some of

917
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: these videos of these fights at NFL games and I

918
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: think to myself, like, what is fucking wrong with these people?

919
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: But it happens. I don't. I don't really know what

920
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: to tell you. So the only thing that matters with

921
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Tua is like Miami believed in them, They kept playing

922
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: with them, They stuck by him this offseason, isn't That's

923
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: really all that matters. I say it all the time,

924
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: like and listen, I appreciate anyone that ever says anything

925
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: positive in my dms, but people say negative things too.

926
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: The only thing that I truly care about, like does

927
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: my family care about me? Do my business partners? And

928
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: like the people that actually the consumer that listens to

929
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: the show like what I'm doing right? But the commenters

930
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: and people screaming about a bet or fantasy football. You know,

931
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: I think sometimes they can look a little louder too

932
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: on social media than they actually are. But that's kind

933
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: of how fans talk. It's how people talk. With the

934
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: current Raiders debackle what options are realistic for the next

935
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: three to five years. I agree with you that it

936
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: needs to be blown up. How many picks can we

937
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: get for Crosby, Jacobs, renfro Adams, love all the guys,

938
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: but the goals to and McDaniels can't seem to do that.

939
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Mark Davis, who just won his second WNBA championship. For

940
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: those of you that don't follow the WNBA, he is

941
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: dominating the league as an owner. His team is like

942
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: the Kobe shack Lakers. They run the league for two

943
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: straight years, best record, chap, back to back rings, best players.

944
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they are kicking ass and taking names. They're

945
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna be the heavy favorite next year. And they had

946
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: a parade slash like party, and there was a dude

947
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: there that with a fire McDaniels kind of cardboard sign,

948
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: and Mark was walking by and he was screaming at

949
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: him to fire Josh and Mark started talking to him

950
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: to kind of calm down. Here's the problem. With the

951
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Raiders is and I don't blame Mark. I think the

952
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: last thing in the world he wants to do is

953
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: going on another coaching search. He wanted no part of

954
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: firing Gruden. He did not have a choice, and as

955
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: he's publicly said, he thought he got railroaded and fucked

956
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: and they specifically came after the Radus and Gruden, and

957
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: he's not wrong, but when he had to go after

958
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, that was never his intention. Even if Gruden struggled,

959
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: Gruden was getting like seven eight years. I think he

960
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: wants no part of firing these guys and going after

961
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: more people. Now, if they just continue to suck, the

962
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: thing is they're actually gonna end up winning six to

963
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: seven games. They're gonna end up being awful, and you're

964
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna look up and they're gonna draft tenth. I say

965
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: this all the time. No franchise consistently isn't that good

966
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: and never drafts like two. Right, even the Bears last

967
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: year debacle gets the number one pick, was able to

968
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: trade it, get Dj Moore, get some other ones. It

969
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: was sweet. Right, the Raiders have just an awful season

970
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: and they just draft seventh, you know, and they end

971
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: up with some project from Texas Tech that to me

972
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: sums up the Raiders. Even the best player they've drafted

973
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: over the last decade, they were drafting fifth, Khalil Mack

974
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: had to fall to them because the Browns traded with

975
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: the Bills for Sammy Watkins. They got lucky. They just

976
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: never draft second. It's like, oh, they're just gonna draft

977
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, right, Oh, they're just gonna draft whoever, some

978
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: sweet quarterback. They're always drafting tenth, thirteenth, twelfth. That's the

979
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: worst place to be. So I would not expect them

980
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: to fire Josh McDaniels. I would not expect them to

981
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: trade some of these players the one thing Mark needs.

982
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: I believe they should. But if you're Mark, you do

983
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: need some players on your team. In all honesty, do

984
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: you think after the Buffalo win that the Patriots will

985
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: gain confidence and start winning or do you think it

986
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: was one of those random games where the underdog wins

987
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: was able to do once and the rest of the

988
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: team learned catch was his one lucky game. Like I

989
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: said the other day, I think his division. I think

990
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: anytime the Patriots play a divisional game, even if they're

991
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: really bad, they're gonna have, I don't know, a eighty

992
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: percent chance to win because of Belichick his knowledge on

993
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: the opponent. We've seen them play random teams, right, We've

994
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: seen them play. They lost to the Saints thirty four

995
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: to nothing. The Saints thirty four to nothing. Honestly, the

996
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: Raiders were kind of shoving them around. So when they

997
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: play random teams, they're just not gonna be any good

998
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: because they're not any good when they play the Bills,

999
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: when they play the Dolphins, obviously, when they play the Jets,

1000
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: they got a very good chance to win. I'm pretty

1001
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: sure they play the Dolphins this week, right, so yeah,

1002
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: they could win this week. But let's just look at

1003
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: their schedule. So they play the Dolphins, which in Miami

1004
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: historically they don't play that well down there. But let's

1005
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: just say marry some momentum, it's a tight game. Then

1006
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: they play the Commanders, Colts, and Giants for example, you

1007
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: would say in theory, like all winnable games, they could

1008
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: easily lose two of those three games. They are not

1009
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna play as well with random opponents. The Bill just

1010
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: doesn't know like he does the AFCs. It is such

1011
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: an advantage for the Patriots with the divisional games because

1012
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: their coach is just elite when it comes to evaluating

1013
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: your personnel, having just the ability to scheme against you.

1014
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: And he knows so much about these teams, right, so

1015
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: when he plays the Colts with Shane Stiken, it's not

1016
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: gonna be the same. And that looks like it's a

1017
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: NFL network. Is that a Thursday game? No, I don't

1018
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: know what game that is, but it's on an NFL network,

1019
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know. When is eleven twelve? When is

1020
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: that game? Look at this eleven twelve, it's a Tuesday,

1021
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: and now it's December. My bad. Don't listen to me.

1022
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: That's a Thursday game. So they play on Thursday. That

1023
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: would be an interesting game. So they have no I'm

1024
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: in the wrong month. Don't listen to me. That's a Sunday.

1025
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: Never mind. I was on. I first started in December,

1026
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: then I went to October. So I don't know why

1027
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: that game's on an NFL now. Maybe it's an international game.

1028
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: I can't keep up with these international games being on

1029
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: the West Coast. I don't really watch that much of

1030
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: the international games now. Part of it, too, is the

1031
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: matchups are terrible. Like Titans, Ravens like us. What are

1032
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens gonna do? Kick their ass? And that game

1033
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: could have been like forty to ten. It's just it

1034
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: doesn't feel it's a little much for me. I'm not

1035
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: anti the international game, like I understand why the league's

1036
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: doing it, but for those on the West Coast, especially

1037
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: if you go out Saturday and you've been watching football Saturday,

1038
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: I like sleeping in till six, seven thirty eight on

1039
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, maybe go get a workout. All of a

1040
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: sudden you kind of forget about it. And it's never

1041
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, Eagles, Chiefs or Chiefs Bills. It's always like

1042
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: a random game. I mean Bill's Jags is a good

1043
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: game in theory. Is good enough for me on the

1044
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: West Coast to truly care? No, it's not listening to

1045
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: the mailbag today and all of the ref questions. So

1046
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I googled how much they make and it tells me

1047
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: around two hundred and five thousand dollars and that many,

1048
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: if not all, of them have full time jobs outside

1049
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: of the National Football League. So my question is this,

1050
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: why doesn't the league pay them enough to have them

1051
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: focus solely on being a referee. And treat them like

1052
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: a lucrative part time job. It's mind boggling, a multi

1053
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: billion dollar business. Lets the refs be the focal point

1054
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: week in week out. Like I said, what would they

1055
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: do all week? Honestly, if I instead of paying them

1056
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: two hundred grand I paid them all a million dollars?

1057
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: What the fuck are they doing on Tuesday or Thursday?

1058
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Speaker 1: I mean breaking down some film, watching some highlights, going

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Speaker 1: to a high school practice. You can technically do that

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Speaker 1: even while you work. I just I don't know. So

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Speaker 1: they instead of playing golf on Wednesday morning they do

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Speaker 1: something else. I honestly, I just don't know what they

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Speaker 1: would really do. I understand as a player, as a coach,

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Speaker 1: as an executive, you got a lot to do during

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Speaker 1: the week. As a referee, what are you really doing?

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Speaker 1: What could you do? Even if you went to a practice,

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Speaker 1: an NFL practice or a college practice, what is that

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Speaker 1: hour and a half two hours? What are you doing

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Speaker 1: the other ten plus hours you're up? So I think

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Speaker 1: it's easy to say it out loud, but I really

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Speaker 1: don't know what else they would do. I listened to

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Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts, and you are my first search.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. However, I want to stick up from

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Speaker 1: my Dolphins. They were down three offensive linemen and Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey and Zavian Howard and a Chan. They will be

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Speaker 1: a different team come late November. Good luck chasing the

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Speaker 1: four fastest guys in the NFL round on the field.

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Speaker 1: How cold it is. I got some pushback on saying

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Speaker 1: that they can't win outside, and I clearly don't mean

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Speaker 1: they can't win outside when it's seventy five degrees. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about cold weather games. History's on my side. History's

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Speaker 1: on my side. Google the last time the Dolphins won

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Speaker 1: a game in forty degrees or less. And it's just

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Speaker 1: a human thing. I can relate to it. I'm a

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Speaker 1: West Coast guy. The only time I've ever lived in

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Speaker 1: cold weather was two years in Philly and one fall

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and it was miserable. My body did

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Speaker 1: not like it. Why because I'm used to warm weathers

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Speaker 1: in the winter and now especially I live in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: The moment it gets like sixty degrees, I get cold.

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Speaker 1: Even in the Bay Area, which is colder than like

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Speaker 1: southern California, it's still relatively warm, especially where I lived

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Speaker 1: far away from the water. So we're all human being.

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Speaker 1: And when you live in Arizona, when you live in Florida,

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Speaker 1: when you live in some of these coastal warm weather places,

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Speaker 1: it is naturally more difficult because your body gets accustomed

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Speaker 1: to the weather and it's jarring. Even if you practice indoors.

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Speaker 1: If you live in Detroit, if you live in Boston

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Speaker 1: or New York, there is an acclamation process that you

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Speaker 1: can become. I don't want to say numb to it,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think you ever get numb to freezing cold.

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Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady both grew up in California.

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Speaker 1: Then they spent fifteen twenty plus years in cold weather

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Speaker 1: places and became used to it. But would Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: been as good of a cold weather quarterback if, like

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, he played in a dome. Of course not.

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Speaker 1: Would he been better than Peyton Manning because he has

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Speaker 1: a stronger arm, sure, But would it been as natural

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Speaker 1: as it became for him? No chance went to ann Arbor,

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Speaker 1: then went to Boston. So it's just humans. We're just

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Speaker 1: human beings, and you become accustomed to your surroundings. So

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Speaker 1: I also think Jalen Ramsey, for example, he was god

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Speaker 1: awful last year. Now their team was terrible. Did he

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Speaker 1: mail it in a little bit? Sure? They got him

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Speaker 1: for a third round pick for a reason. Xavian Howard.

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Speaker 1: Are we sure he's still really that good the young

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Speaker 1: running back. I'll give you that when he's an impact player.

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Speaker 1: But like, I'm sorry, your quarterback in a cold weather game?

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Speaker 1: Where's he from? Hawaii? Alabama? Now Miami. That's my example.

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Speaker 1: So do I think Tua, cause I can relate to this,

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Speaker 1: is gonna thrive outdoors in cold weather, cold wind, rain, sleep.

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Speaker 1: I don't. And that's not even a shot at him.

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Speaker 1: It's just it should just make sense. Born and raised

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii, played at Alabama, now plays professionally in Miami.

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Speaker 1: He's just gonna kick ass when it comes going on

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Speaker 1: the road to Baltimore or Kansas City in the middle

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Speaker 1: of January. Come on. The other thing is your offensive

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Speaker 1: line sucks. It's terrible. It's not any good even you

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Speaker 1: can admit that, right, and like Arms, some of the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman you do have constantly get hurt. Jalen Phillips

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Speaker 1: a good player. Vic Fangio stud Do I believe though,

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Speaker 1: that you are physical enough? I do not I just don't.

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Speaker 1: And your two running backs are good, but I do

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Speaker 1: not love your quarterback in ten degrees and whip and wind.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. And I'm never going to. Even if

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Speaker 1: he were to win a game, I would bet against him.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's fair when I lay out what

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Speaker 1: I just laid out, Like if you were me, Hawaii, Bama, Miami, Like,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't average arm. He's accurate, throws a nice deep ball,

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Speaker 1: but he does not have strong I wouldn't say, like

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Speaker 1: upper echelont arm talent that's you doesn't crush it in

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Speaker 1: freezing cold temperatures. There's a reason the cold weather quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: who've had success throughout my life, Green Bay, Farv Rogers,

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Speaker 1: Boston Brady, the Buffalo Bills when I was a kid,

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01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, huge arm, Elway Denver, huge arm. You ever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I've never played football in the cold weather.

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Speaker 1: When I was at Fresno State, we played the Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: Nevada team and it was forty degrees, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was beyond freezing. And when I worked for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I obviously went to games in December in early January,

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Speaker 1: it was freezing cold couldn't feel your hands. It's not

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Speaker 1: an easy place to play. And I'm not even counting

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Speaker 1: like rain or snow, and when I say snow is

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Speaker 1: more like the sleet. So it's very, very difficult to

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Speaker 1: thrive in that environment as a quarterback and as a

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Speaker 1: skill guy. It's not easy. Tyreek Hill kind of used

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Speaker 1: to it. Played in Kansas City, Wattle, Bama, Miami. Do

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Speaker 1: I feel great about that? I don't. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: Not trying to hate. I'm a Mike McDaniel and definitely

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Speaker 1: a VIC Fangio fan, and I think one more offseason

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Speaker 1: they can kind of equip their team more to hang.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a physical conference, it really is. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers are not going away. Lamar's the stud obviously, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: The Browns defense is elite. It's tough. You know. The

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Speaker 1: bills that they could ever get kind of healthy are

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Speaker 1: damn good. We've seen what they did to you guys,

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Speaker 1: kick the shit out of you. So yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not just. I don't just say things to say things.

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Speaker 1: I truly believe it, and nothing I believe more and

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Speaker 1: only because I've experienced it and I've also lived like

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Speaker 1: I'm a warm Weather guy. It's where I live, and

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Speaker 1: I know the shock that it has on me just

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Speaker 1: as a human being. And then I've seen it firsthand

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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks going to these games and being a part

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Speaker 1: of it and following the league like they do. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just knocking to bet on two in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it can't, doesn't mean you're you could. You know,

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Speaker 1: if your defense was good enough, that's the key gonna

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Speaker 1: be for you guys. Defense, defense, defense, defense, And I

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Speaker 1: just don't think your defense is gonna be good enough

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Speaker 1: for sure. Appreciate everyone listening. Go Dolph. I'm glad the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are good. I grew up Dolphins were one of

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Speaker 1: the main brands in the league. Damn Marino. I mean

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: they were big. I mean Dan Marino when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid was like as famous as Cal Ripken or

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Speaker 1: some of the nat Charles Barkley, like Dan Marino is

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Speaker 1: one of the more famous athletes in my life. So

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that Miami Dolphins brand is back. It's cool.

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Speaker 1: And you guys are gonna be a playoff team. Are

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Speaker 1: you gonna win a playoff game? I guess you could

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: if you win the division, which is definitely on the

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Speaker 1: table with the Bills injuries. But even then, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be hard, right. Could you beat

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in the first round or the Browns in

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Speaker 1: the first round? You could, but they definitely could beat you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. It's always too fun to talk a

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Speaker 1: little football. And I'll be back again tomorrow. A podcast,

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Speaker 1: Never stop audios. The volume