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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, Everybody, This is

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. We

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Speaker 1: were entering Week seven of the NFL season, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Aaron, this was the most surprising of

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Speaker 1: weeks we've had this year. But it's just it's true

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Speaker 1: to form. This is the NFL any given Sunday. But

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Speaker 1: averaging a margin of victory of twenty points, lose in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland to a backup quarterback without Nick Chubb and without

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Speaker 1: Joel Patonio. You saw Jalen Hurts strut into met Life,

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Speaker 1: take an early lead and then throw three uncharacteristic interceptions

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Speaker 1: and lose to the Jets. And then you saw the

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Speaker 1: twenty to with Aman Rossing Brown having a career day

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Speaker 1: and those creamsicle uniforms just being splattered across that home field.

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Speaker 1: Fun fun week to get some unexpected results. We go

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Speaker 1: on to Week seven, but I wanted to start the

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Speaker 1: pod this week with a personal note, Aaron, are you

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Speaker 1: ready for me to reveal why I was away for

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Speaker 1: a couple of days in late August filming something in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had to pay this off. This has been

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Speaker 2: a long time coming. This is a secret and we're

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Speaker 1: So I get a call around August fifteenth from a

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Speaker 1: production company saying, is there any way you can get

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Speaker 1: the Monday, last week of August, to which I said,

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Speaker 1: I'd need to know what the opportunity is. The answers

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Speaker 1: probably No Morning Football does really good ratings in August,

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Speaker 1: and the NFL network puts a lot of eggs in

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Speaker 1: the August basket because we're the only ones to show

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Speaker 1: all the preseason games. Ratings are high. So if it's

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Speaker 1: or gosh, if Gordon Ramsey wanted me to be a

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Speaker 1: guest judge on Kitchen Nightmares, the entest probably know. But

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Speaker 1: this one was special. The production company was representing a

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Speaker 1: certain show called Jeopardy. Aaron, no response. I'm waiting for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Details.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So they represent Jeopardy, and there.

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Speaker 1: Was a writers strike going on, and there was an

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Speaker 1: actor strike going on. I think the term Celebrity Jeopardy

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Speaker 1: Hollywood's They asked me if I wanted to come on

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Jeopardy and compete as a contestant on Celebrity Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: Aaron my lovely producer and friend. We've known each other

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Speaker 1: now about a year, maybe a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: a year. I grew up a Jeopardy kid.

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Speaker 2: That makes total sense to me. No, no, you Your

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Speaker 2: and this feels like exactly the kind of thing that

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: There was a TV in my kitchen as a kid,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that at some other date. That said

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Speaker 1: it is airing is next Wednesday, October twenty fifth, my

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Speaker 1: episode of Celebrity Jeopardy where I am a contestant, and

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Speaker 1: it will air at I believe eight o'clock Eastern, not

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Speaker 1: even that seven o'clock garbage that we usually see it on.

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Speaker 1: This is primetime, baby, and it's celebrity Jeopardy. I'm loud

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Speaker 1: to tell you who I went against, and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you the story of how I've found out who these

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Speaker 1: you'd probably want to prepare somehow, right, right, right, So Aaron,

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Speaker 1: There's no way to prepare for Jeopardy. You either know

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Speaker 1: So here's my thing. I'm like, I'm gonna fly out.

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Speaker 2: So just to be clear, on your flight to LA,

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Speaker 3: this ship on our side, and man, they didn't flinch

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00:22:02,546 --> 00:22:05,026
Speaker 3: in the beginning of the year. You know, again with

422
00:22:05,146 --> 00:22:07,546
Speaker 3: the great veteran leadership that they have, they know who

423
00:22:07,546 --> 00:22:09,546
Speaker 3: we are, they know what we've done and what we've

424
00:22:09,546 --> 00:22:12,306
Speaker 3: accomplished at you know, a high level, and it's just

425
00:22:12,346 --> 00:22:14,226
Speaker 3: a matter of time before we put it all together.

426
00:22:14,946 --> 00:22:18,586
Speaker 1: That's your Jorge Pisada, You're Mariano Rivera, you're Jeter, and

427
00:22:18,626 --> 00:22:20,026
Speaker 1: you're who is the last one?

428
00:22:20,026 --> 00:22:20,346
Speaker 3: Bernie?

429
00:22:20,346 --> 00:22:22,146
Speaker 1: I would imagine, or do we go Tino Martinez?

430
00:22:22,186 --> 00:22:22,546
Speaker 3: Bernie?

431
00:22:22,586 --> 00:22:25,226
Speaker 1: Right, It's got to be Bernie. It's not it's who

432
00:22:25,306 --> 00:22:29,426
Speaker 1: is it? Who's the fourth? It's Pettit, Pettit Okay, Bernie

433
00:22:29,466 --> 00:22:31,786
Speaker 1: was before them. Bernie like, okay, got it.

434
00:22:32,106 --> 00:22:34,106
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised when I looked it back up.

435
00:22:34,506 --> 00:22:37,666
Speaker 1: That's the core four. I think of Sam Hubbard. He's

436
00:22:37,706 --> 00:22:40,466
Speaker 1: like such a local guy and he represents everything about

437
00:22:40,466 --> 00:22:42,666
Speaker 1: this Bengals team and whether it be the Ohio state

438
00:22:42,746 --> 00:22:45,466
Speaker 1: roots at Cincinnati roots and the play he made last

439
00:22:45,506 --> 00:22:47,506
Speaker 1: year in the Wildcar Round is really the play that

440
00:22:47,546 --> 00:22:49,786
Speaker 1: most people know him from. But every day this guy

441
00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:51,946
Speaker 1: brings it. And I watch football, I don't. I'm not

442
00:22:51,986 --> 00:22:54,746
Speaker 1: sure everyone outside of Cincinnati knows just what type of

443
00:22:54,746 --> 00:22:56,266
Speaker 1: player and man that Sam Hubbard is.

444
00:22:56,266 --> 00:22:59,066
Speaker 3: For that defense, well, he's terrific when they introduce him here,

445
00:22:59,106 --> 00:23:02,066
Speaker 3: when they do introduce the defense, you know, and the

446
00:23:02,106 --> 00:23:05,466
Speaker 3: guy the public address announcer starts with Cincinnati's own, you know,

447
00:23:05,546 --> 00:23:09,466
Speaker 3: and then Sam Harbor and he is what we are

448
00:23:09,506 --> 00:23:12,866
Speaker 3: as you mentioned. I mean, the guy played sixty four

449
00:23:12,906 --> 00:23:16,106
Speaker 3: plays the other day, had a ton of production, hit

450
00:23:16,106 --> 00:23:19,826
Speaker 3: the quarterback six times, you know, and just a great

451
00:23:19,946 --> 00:23:22,026
Speaker 3: He's been a great run defender for us for years.

452
00:23:22,066 --> 00:23:23,506
Speaker 3: He's got a you know, a heck of a pass

453
00:23:23,586 --> 00:23:26,906
Speaker 3: rush game. So he's everything we're all about. And you know,

454
00:23:26,946 --> 00:23:30,226
Speaker 3: you go back to the AFC Championship game two years ago,

455
00:23:30,466 --> 00:23:32,546
Speaker 3: and you know he's the one that's kind of getting

456
00:23:32,586 --> 00:23:37,546
Speaker 3: after Mahomes on that crucial third down stop to force

457
00:23:37,586 --> 00:23:40,306
Speaker 3: them to kick the field goal to get in to

458
00:23:40,306 --> 00:23:43,026
Speaker 3: get in overtime and eventually win the game. So Sam,

459
00:23:43,266 --> 00:23:46,386
Speaker 3: Sam's done so much for us and a great community guy,

460
00:23:46,506 --> 00:23:48,506
Speaker 3: and we just love him.

461
00:23:48,826 --> 00:23:50,466
Speaker 1: We're gonna go backwards, We're gonna go through your career

462
00:23:50,506 --> 00:23:52,426
Speaker 1: a little bit. But let's let's go just a couple

463
00:23:52,466 --> 00:23:54,426
Speaker 1: of years backwards. That Super Bowl run and then the

464
00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:57,386
Speaker 1: AFC Championship run. When you got to Cincinnati, it was

465
00:23:58,066 --> 00:24:00,226
Speaker 1: it was you, Zach, and it was obviously Callahan is

466
00:24:00,226 --> 00:24:03,106
Speaker 1: the offhys like things were not things were not humming,

467
00:24:03,306 --> 00:24:04,986
Speaker 1: if by any means, And of course there had been

468
00:24:05,026 --> 00:24:08,106
Speaker 1: some good seasons, but no wins, playoffs, nothing in recent years.

469
00:24:09,146 --> 00:24:11,546
Speaker 1: Take us back just the last i would say, twenty

470
00:24:11,546 --> 00:24:14,146
Speaker 1: four months, and just how far this franchise has come

471
00:24:14,586 --> 00:24:16,066
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years alone.

472
00:24:16,306 --> 00:24:19,146
Speaker 3: Well, we're you know, as you mentioned, Zach and Cally

473
00:24:19,306 --> 00:24:22,786
Speaker 3: just doing such a great job and on respective you know,

474
00:24:22,906 --> 00:24:24,946
Speaker 3: Zach as the head coach and Brian is the coordinator

475
00:24:24,946 --> 00:24:29,786
Speaker 3: on offense. But it's so satisfying as a coach and

476
00:24:30,146 --> 00:24:31,826
Speaker 3: some of the players that have been here from the

477
00:24:31,866 --> 00:24:34,666
Speaker 3: beginning when we got here in twenty nineteen, and as

478
00:24:34,666 --> 00:24:37,666
Speaker 3: you mentioned, you know, Marvin had done a great job

479
00:24:37,706 --> 00:24:41,986
Speaker 3: and had really good success, and we just we the

480
00:24:42,026 --> 00:24:45,106
Speaker 3: team that we inherited a little bit older. You know,

481
00:24:45,146 --> 00:24:47,346
Speaker 3: we knew we had to turn the roster over to

482
00:24:47,386 --> 00:24:50,466
Speaker 3: a degree, and those guys had done great things here

483
00:24:50,506 --> 00:24:54,026
Speaker 3: for Cincinnati, and we just knew that, you know, it's

484
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:56,226
Speaker 3: our time to get some new guys in here and

485
00:24:57,306 --> 00:25:00,226
Speaker 3: to go through that whole thing. And you know, first

486
00:25:00,346 --> 00:25:02,986
Speaker 3: playoff win in thirty some odd years and then oh,

487
00:25:03,026 --> 00:25:05,946
Speaker 3: by the way, you get the first road playoff win

488
00:25:06,226 --> 00:25:09,106
Speaker 3: in team history ever, all those firsts.

489
00:25:09,906 --> 00:25:12,506
Speaker 4: You're just very, very proud to be a part of it.

490
00:25:13,026 --> 00:25:15,226
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I love, I'm so proud of you.

491
00:25:15,346 --> 00:25:17,746
Speaker 1: It's happy for your unit, as you guys have always

492
00:25:17,746 --> 00:25:20,586
Speaker 1: held up your end of the bargain. Let's go back

493
00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:24,146
Speaker 1: your coaching journey nineteen eighty nine. We go to the

494
00:25:24,706 --> 00:25:28,786
Speaker 1: fine borough of Staten Island and the running backs coach

495
00:25:28,866 --> 00:25:33,026
Speaker 1: at Wagner is lou and Arimo. What led you to Wagner?

496
00:25:33,066 --> 00:25:34,866
Speaker 1: And I know you're a Staten Island guy, So just

497
00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,386
Speaker 1: take us through how you even thought that this could

498
00:25:37,386 --> 00:25:40,146
Speaker 1: possibly be a career coming from Staten Islands. It's not

499
00:25:40,226 --> 00:25:42,706
Speaker 1: exactly a football hotbit, if I may say so.

500
00:25:43,066 --> 00:25:43,946
Speaker 4: No, you're good.

501
00:25:45,546 --> 00:25:50,066
Speaker 3: Just you know, my dad was a high school basketball

502
00:25:50,066 --> 00:25:52,106
Speaker 3: coach growing up, so it was always kind of around it.

503
00:25:52,186 --> 00:25:55,826
Speaker 3: He played college basketball at Wagner and was a principal

504
00:25:55,866 --> 00:25:57,546
Speaker 3: and kind of so I always knew I wanted to

505
00:25:57,586 --> 00:26:01,706
Speaker 3: teach and coach, and then one thing led to another.

506
00:26:01,786 --> 00:26:04,626
Speaker 3: You know, I never had a great stellar career playing wise,

507
00:26:05,586 --> 00:26:08,306
Speaker 3: but I always knew I still wanted to be around it,

508
00:26:08,666 --> 00:26:11,346
Speaker 3: and one thing led to another. I got my first

509
00:26:11,386 --> 00:26:14,346
Speaker 3: big break when you know, Dick McPherson called and I

510
00:26:14,386 --> 00:26:19,466
Speaker 3: was able to be a GA at Syracuse where I

511
00:26:19,506 --> 00:26:22,746
Speaker 3: worked for coach Mac and then coached Pascaloni, and kind

512
00:26:22,746 --> 00:26:25,106
Speaker 3: of everything gone from there was just you know, a

513
00:26:25,146 --> 00:26:27,146
Speaker 3: step I thought. I think I went about it the

514
00:26:27,186 --> 00:26:29,946
Speaker 3: right way. I've coached at all levels, you know, from

515
00:26:30,106 --> 00:26:32,946
Speaker 3: Marshall to Harvard to Purdue, you know, and then onto

516
00:26:32,946 --> 00:26:36,426
Speaker 3: the NFL. So great, great experiences along the way, and

517
00:26:36,746 --> 00:26:39,826
Speaker 3: I think that that's one of the things that I

518
00:26:39,826 --> 00:26:42,826
Speaker 3: think is a missing art these days, where you know,

519
00:26:43,306 --> 00:26:45,586
Speaker 3: you learn more what not to do along the way

520
00:26:45,986 --> 00:26:48,666
Speaker 3: and how to coach different types of people all along

521
00:26:48,706 --> 00:26:51,506
Speaker 3: the way, whether it be a non scholarship player or

522
00:26:51,506 --> 00:26:54,546
Speaker 3: an elite athlete in the NFL. So I feel like

523
00:26:54,546 --> 00:26:56,386
Speaker 3: I got the best of all worlds, and I wouldn't

524
00:26:56,426 --> 00:26:57,906
Speaker 3: change my career path for anything.

525
00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:00,586
Speaker 1: I love it. And so you go from Wagner Tocus

526
00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:04,346
Speaker 1: and then this is a cool one US Merchant Marine

527
00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:07,466
Speaker 1: Academy as a defensive coordinator to defensive backs coach. Those

528
00:27:07,466 --> 00:27:10,186
Speaker 1: are young men and women who are going there for

529
00:27:10,226 --> 00:27:12,546
Speaker 1: a different reason than to become NFL players. And yet

530
00:27:12,586 --> 00:27:14,466
Speaker 1: you as a coach, you're going to get the best

531
00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:15,946
Speaker 1: of them, and you're going to see a probably different

532
00:27:15,946 --> 00:27:18,186
Speaker 1: type of individual than you might anywhere else. What was

533
00:27:18,186 --> 00:27:21,026
Speaker 1: that experience like coaching at the US Merchant Marine Academy.

534
00:27:21,226 --> 00:27:23,786
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable because these guys are not only going

535
00:27:23,786 --> 00:27:26,306
Speaker 3: through training camp, but they're also going through what they

536
00:27:26,346 --> 00:27:30,546
Speaker 3: call their pleab year, where they're square in corners and

537
00:27:30,906 --> 00:27:33,386
Speaker 3: you know, getting up at dawn to go for runs.

538
00:27:33,466 --> 00:27:35,306
Speaker 3: And you know, by the way, you don't have those

539
00:27:35,346 --> 00:27:37,506
Speaker 3: guys in the offseason because they're going out to see

540
00:27:37,546 --> 00:27:39,546
Speaker 3: for six months to learn the what they're going to

541
00:27:39,626 --> 00:27:42,586
Speaker 3: do come on as a career and oh, by the way,

542
00:27:42,586 --> 00:27:44,466
Speaker 3: we want a bunch of games, you know, So again

543
00:27:44,506 --> 00:27:47,666
Speaker 3: you learn how to manage your time, manage those type

544
00:27:47,706 --> 00:27:51,186
Speaker 3: of people that have a you know, a greater goal really,

545
00:27:51,306 --> 00:27:53,466
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day. They when football

546
00:27:53,466 --> 00:27:55,666
Speaker 3: season came around, that's what they were all about. It

547
00:27:55,786 --> 00:27:57,626
Speaker 3: was really really unique.

548
00:27:57,346 --> 00:28:00,546
Speaker 1: You know, the experience of being there. I remember talking

549
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:02,426
Speaker 1: to I forget which player it was, someone came out

550
00:28:02,466 --> 00:28:04,106
Speaker 1: of the Citadel and was playing in the NFL. And

551
00:28:04,146 --> 00:28:05,826
Speaker 1: of course we have our Army and our Navy guys,

552
00:28:05,826 --> 00:28:09,426
Speaker 1: but there is something different about coaching those young men

553
00:28:09,466 --> 00:28:12,266
Speaker 1: and women because, like I said, the priority is of

554
00:28:12,306 --> 00:28:13,986
Speaker 1: course football when you're on the field, but there is

555
00:28:14,026 --> 00:28:16,186
Speaker 1: such a different thing going on. Did you have to

556
00:28:17,506 --> 00:28:22,146
Speaker 1: bend and kind of adjust your coaching style knowing that, yes,

557
00:28:22,186 --> 00:28:25,146
Speaker 1: they might be disciplined, but this is not their top priority.

558
00:28:25,226 --> 00:28:26,266
Speaker 1: Is why they're here at school?

559
00:28:26,626 --> 00:28:27,426
Speaker 4: Well, one hundred percent.

560
00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:29,706
Speaker 3: I was a super I was super young back then,

561
00:28:29,826 --> 00:28:32,706
Speaker 3: just learning how I was going to you know, become

562
00:28:32,746 --> 00:28:35,186
Speaker 3: as a coach. And again, as I mentioned earlier, you

563
00:28:35,306 --> 00:28:37,626
Speaker 3: learned so much of you know, the things you want

564
00:28:37,666 --> 00:28:37,866
Speaker 3: to do.

565
00:28:37,906 --> 00:28:39,426
Speaker 4: And then well, maybe.

566
00:28:39,146 --> 00:28:43,106
Speaker 3: We can't quite do as much with guys that, you know,

567
00:28:43,226 --> 00:28:45,666
Speaker 3: just coming from Syracuse, we had all these great defenses,

568
00:28:45,666 --> 00:28:47,906
Speaker 3: but you know, you're getting these guys in between their

569
00:28:48,786 --> 00:28:52,826
Speaker 3: you know, engineering classes and trying to install a game

570
00:28:52,906 --> 00:28:54,866
Speaker 3: plan is very challenging.

571
00:28:55,226 --> 00:28:56,146
Speaker 4: Same thing at Harvard.

572
00:28:56,186 --> 00:28:58,266
Speaker 3: You know when I coached at Harvard for all those years,

573
00:28:58,306 --> 00:29:00,546
Speaker 3: and I still stay in touch with a bunch of

574
00:29:00,586 --> 00:29:02,626
Speaker 3: those guys, and we had really good players there. You

575
00:29:02,626 --> 00:29:08,466
Speaker 3: know Matt Burke who played NFL Vikings for a long time, Ravens. Yeah,

576
00:29:08,786 --> 00:29:10,586
Speaker 3: you know, so we had a bunch of guys while

577
00:29:10,626 --> 00:29:14,466
Speaker 3: I was there. I just missed fits he had just

578
00:29:14,706 --> 00:29:17,746
Speaker 3: after me. But again, another situation where I'll never forget.

579
00:29:17,746 --> 00:29:20,146
Speaker 3: I'm in a in a meeting, in a defensive back meeting,

580
00:29:20,186 --> 00:29:21,626
Speaker 3: and I think I said, you know, this stuff isn't

581
00:29:21,706 --> 00:29:23,586
Speaker 3: rocket science. And I was like thinking to myself, like

582
00:29:23,986 --> 00:29:26,226
Speaker 3: anybody here like doing any of that kind.

583
00:29:29,906 --> 00:29:33,066
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I kind of am coach. I was like, oh,

584
00:29:33,186 --> 00:29:36,346
Speaker 4: gate so cool, cool stuff for sure.

585
00:29:37,146 --> 00:29:38,986
Speaker 1: Okay, So I live in New York and I'm a

586
00:29:39,066 --> 00:29:42,226
Speaker 1: huge comedy nerd. And Colin Jost is the head writer

587
00:29:42,306 --> 00:29:45,946
Speaker 1: for Saturday Night Live. He's a Staten Island native and

588
00:29:45,986 --> 00:29:48,346
Speaker 1: he went to Harvard as and was a part of

589
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:50,186
Speaker 1: the Lampoon all that. I have to think, you too

590
00:29:50,306 --> 00:29:54,266
Speaker 1: might be the only pipeline of Staten Island to Harvard.

591
00:29:54,386 --> 00:29:56,786
Speaker 1: What's it like when you get plopped in to that

592
00:29:56,866 --> 00:29:59,146
Speaker 1: Harvard and you're all of a sudden with world dignitaries

593
00:29:59,146 --> 00:30:01,186
Speaker 1: and you're in that kind of Was that an adjustment

594
00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:03,786
Speaker 1: going to the Ivy League and dealing with that for

595
00:30:03,786 --> 00:30:04,946
Speaker 1: what six years you were there?

596
00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:06,586
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

597
00:30:06,426 --> 00:30:08,626
Speaker 3: It was quite the adjustment, especially going on some of

598
00:30:08,626 --> 00:30:09,586
Speaker 3: those home visits.

599
00:30:09,786 --> 00:30:12,866
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, all over the country. It was great.

600
00:30:12,866 --> 00:30:15,906
Speaker 3: Again, another great experience because I got to nationally recruit

601
00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:19,266
Speaker 3: as a young coach where which helped me out later on.

602
00:30:19,386 --> 00:30:21,266
Speaker 3: And uh, you know you're going all over the place

603
00:30:21,306 --> 00:30:25,186
Speaker 3: and you're meeting all types of different people, and yeah,

604
00:30:25,266 --> 00:30:25,586
Speaker 3: it was.

605
00:30:25,666 --> 00:30:27,026
Speaker 4: It was walking around the.

606
00:30:27,586 --> 00:30:30,586
Speaker 3: Hallowed halls of Harvard as a Staten Island guy was

607
00:30:30,626 --> 00:30:31,146
Speaker 3: pretty cool.

608
00:30:31,546 --> 00:30:34,226
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to Marshall for several I guess that's

609
00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,986
Speaker 1: during the Leftoo years. I guess you were at Marshall. Yeah.

610
00:30:37,066 --> 00:30:39,866
Speaker 3: Byron was a quarterback. We we won a ton of games.

611
00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:42,346
Speaker 3: I was on the sideline when they carried him down.

612
00:30:43,826 --> 00:30:44,866
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

613
00:30:44,986 --> 00:30:47,906
Speaker 3: It was I don't know, minus twelve in the Rubber

614
00:30:47,946 --> 00:30:50,586
Speaker 3: Bowl against the Akron that day. I mean it was

615
00:30:50,706 --> 00:30:53,146
Speaker 3: freezing and you know Byron. It just tells you all

616
00:30:53,146 --> 00:30:55,266
Speaker 3: about Byron, what what kind of he was about to

617
00:30:55,266 --> 00:30:57,906
Speaker 3: be a top ten pick in the draft, and I'll

618
00:30:57,906 --> 00:31:01,626
Speaker 3: never forget. They asked him after the game, they said, hey,

619
00:31:02,426 --> 00:31:04,586
Speaker 3: you know, you know, weren't you worried about your family

620
00:31:04,666 --> 00:31:06,066
Speaker 3: and and what's about to come?

621
00:31:06,106 --> 00:31:07,866
Speaker 4: He goes, my family was out on the field.

622
00:31:08,346 --> 00:31:11,186
Speaker 1: Yes, answer, I was Byron.

623
00:31:10,946 --> 00:31:13,106
Speaker 3: Leftwich to a T and I love Byron Hill today.

624
00:31:13,586 --> 00:31:17,386
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Then Purdue and you're stacking up years and

625
00:31:17,466 --> 00:31:23,306
Speaker 1: years years, and then there's a call twenty twelve Miami Dolphins.

626
00:31:23,986 --> 00:31:26,226
Speaker 1: Who made the call? How'd that come about? And then

627
00:31:26,586 --> 00:31:29,266
Speaker 1: after putting in decades at the college level, what made

628
00:31:29,306 --> 00:31:31,266
Speaker 1: you finally take the leap to get into the big leagues?

629
00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:34,906
Speaker 3: So it's it's it had always been a goal, you know,

630
00:31:35,346 --> 00:31:37,546
Speaker 3: all the years in college. I uh, you know, I

631
00:31:37,546 --> 00:31:40,386
Speaker 3: would always go visit NFL places. I would come to Cincinnati.

632
00:31:40,426 --> 00:31:42,906
Speaker 3: Kevin Coyle was a friend, and I would come here

633
00:31:42,906 --> 00:31:46,546
Speaker 3: and see see those guys with Zim and Marvin. You know,

634
00:31:46,626 --> 00:31:49,626
Speaker 3: I made had an interview. I wasn't ready to get

635
00:31:49,666 --> 00:31:52,026
Speaker 3: the job, probably in two thousand and four or five,

636
00:31:52,226 --> 00:31:55,626
Speaker 3: with Money kiffing down in Tampa to be the coach. Yeah,

637
00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:57,506
Speaker 3: and money and I a lot of my stuff. You know,

638
00:31:57,546 --> 00:32:01,146
Speaker 3: the the u our stuff, I should say, the core

639
00:32:01,266 --> 00:32:03,986
Speaker 3: stuff of the fundamentals of just playing football. You know,

640
00:32:04,106 --> 00:32:06,626
Speaker 3: got a chance to talk to Moni for years, used

641
00:32:06,626 --> 00:32:09,506
Speaker 3: to come after that became good friends and talking ball,

642
00:32:09,626 --> 00:32:13,306
Speaker 3: and that was a great experience. John was the head coach,

643
00:32:13,346 --> 00:32:15,626
Speaker 3: and Rich Basaca was in the room, Joe Barry was

644
00:32:15,666 --> 00:32:18,266
Speaker 3: in the room. So a lot of guys that you know,

645
00:32:18,306 --> 00:32:22,786
Speaker 3: people know and again another great experience. But yeah, so Joe,

646
00:32:22,786 --> 00:32:26,506
Speaker 3: Philbin and I worked together at two colleges. We worked

647
00:32:26,546 --> 00:32:30,186
Speaker 3: together at the us MMA United States Merchant Marine Academy,

648
00:32:30,666 --> 00:32:33,546
Speaker 3: and we also worked together at Harvard, so you talk

649
00:32:33,586 --> 00:32:37,346
Speaker 3: about connections. And then Kevin Coyle was a defensive coordinator.

650
00:32:37,986 --> 00:32:40,186
Speaker 3: Kevin and I know each other for a long time.

651
00:32:40,506 --> 00:32:41,666
Speaker 4: So it kind of just worked out.

652
00:32:42,226 --> 00:32:44,386
Speaker 1: So you get there twenty twelve, What was that leap

653
00:32:44,506 --> 00:32:46,546
Speaker 1: like and what was your first welcome to the NFL

654
00:32:46,586 --> 00:32:47,346
Speaker 1: moment as a coach?

655
00:32:47,946 --> 00:32:51,146
Speaker 3: You know it was it was you know, I remember

656
00:32:51,266 --> 00:32:54,026
Speaker 3: Kevin saying something to me about, you know, hey, these

657
00:32:54,026 --> 00:32:56,186
Speaker 3: guys are different than the college guys. You know, you

658
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:58,506
Speaker 3: got to make sure you approach it the right way.

659
00:32:58,626 --> 00:33:01,346
Speaker 3: And but I really didn't. I didn't really see it

660
00:33:01,386 --> 00:33:03,546
Speaker 3: as a big adjustment. I just was always just me

661
00:33:04,066 --> 00:33:05,986
Speaker 3: And I've never in my life knock on Wood had

662
00:33:06,026 --> 00:33:09,866
Speaker 3: a problem with my players ever. And when there is

663
00:33:09,906 --> 00:33:11,506
Speaker 3: a problem, we sit down and we talk about it.

664
00:33:11,546 --> 00:33:13,946
Speaker 3: But I didn't see it as a huge adjustment, just,

665
00:33:14,706 --> 00:33:17,466
Speaker 3: you know, just another another group of guys that wanted

666
00:33:17,466 --> 00:33:20,306
Speaker 3: to be coached, and and as long as you're around

667
00:33:20,626 --> 00:33:23,226
Speaker 3: players like that, you know you'll get the best at them.

668
00:33:23,226 --> 00:33:24,746
Speaker 4: And it worked out.

669
00:33:25,306 --> 00:33:27,266
Speaker 1: Okay. Then you're there for a while and there's a

670
00:33:27,306 --> 00:33:29,586
Speaker 1: homecoming assort, so you jump for a job in twenty

671
00:33:29,626 --> 00:33:32,026
Speaker 1: eighteen and you come to the New York Giants wearing

672
00:33:32,946 --> 00:33:34,906
Speaker 1: the big blue jerseys, and of course that's in the

673
00:33:34,946 --> 00:33:38,186
Speaker 1: backyard of Staten Island, only a few miles away. DB's coach,

674
00:33:38,186 --> 00:33:40,346
Speaker 1: who was the coach was that McAdoo, who was the

675
00:33:40,386 --> 00:33:42,626
Speaker 1: coach there when you were there with them, Pat Shermer

676
00:33:42,906 --> 00:33:43,786
Speaker 1: uh Sherman.

677
00:33:43,866 --> 00:33:44,586
Speaker 4: I was with Pat.

678
00:33:44,626 --> 00:33:47,626
Speaker 3: You know, we we let you know when when Joe

679
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:51,346
Speaker 3: Philbrim was fired down to Miami, Dan Campbell was the

680
00:33:51,386 --> 00:33:55,906
Speaker 3: interim head coach, and Dan named me the defensive coordinator

681
00:33:56,266 --> 00:33:59,666
Speaker 3: and Zach the offensive coordinator. So it's small world.

682
00:33:59,866 --> 00:34:02,306
Speaker 1: Think about that right now, Dave Campbell was the head coach,

683
00:34:02,466 --> 00:34:04,586
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was the offensive coordinator, and you were the

684
00:34:04,586 --> 00:34:07,106
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You look at those three games right now,

685
00:34:07,586 --> 00:34:09,506
Speaker 1: if you go through it, Campbell's maybe you got the

686
00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,266
Speaker 1: best team in football with the Lions. Then you and

687
00:34:11,386 --> 00:34:13,026
Speaker 1: Zach a together at the Vengals. How cool is that?

688
00:34:13,186 --> 00:34:15,466
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, Ben Johnson's floating around the

689
00:34:15,466 --> 00:34:15,986
Speaker 3: building too.

690
00:34:16,466 --> 00:34:19,986
Speaker 1: It's the mastermind offensive coordinator in Detroit. But this is

691
00:34:20,066 --> 00:34:22,386
Speaker 1: like that team was a forgettable team. No offense to

692
00:34:22,426 --> 00:34:24,506
Speaker 1: those guys. But like no one's writing books about the

693
00:34:24,626 --> 00:34:27,746
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen Miami Dolphins, and here we are. There's all

694
00:34:27,746 --> 00:34:30,386
Speaker 1: that talent in the coaching ranks, similar to the twenty

695
00:34:30,426 --> 00:34:33,906
Speaker 1: eleven Washington Redskins that we talk about, or the mid

696
00:34:33,906 --> 00:34:37,426
Speaker 1: two thousands Buccaneers like you were talking about. There's just

697
00:34:37,506 --> 00:34:39,546
Speaker 1: all these young coaches and it's almost like an incubator.

698
00:34:39,746 --> 00:34:40,786
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.

699
00:34:40,826 --> 00:34:42,866
Speaker 3: And you know we always used to That's how Zach

700
00:34:42,906 --> 00:34:45,986
Speaker 3: and I became so close is during those years in Miami.

701
00:34:46,026 --> 00:34:47,706
Speaker 3: You know, he'd come down to my office or I'd

702
00:34:47,746 --> 00:34:49,386
Speaker 3: go down to his office and just say, what are

703
00:34:49,426 --> 00:34:52,346
Speaker 3: these guys trying to do? And you know, and that's

704
00:34:52,346 --> 00:34:55,066
Speaker 3: how you build friendships, and you know, you get to

705
00:34:55,106 --> 00:34:57,706
Speaker 3: know who you know, Hey, I really we have the

706
00:34:57,746 --> 00:35:00,386
Speaker 3: same way of thinking about things and our philosophies are

707
00:35:00,426 --> 00:35:03,226
Speaker 3: the same and so yeah, so we move on to

708
00:35:03,306 --> 00:35:06,146
Speaker 3: the Giants, which was you know, I mean, I grew

709
00:35:06,226 --> 00:35:08,546
Speaker 3: up in Giant fan. I grew up watching Lawrence Tailor

710
00:35:08,586 --> 00:35:10,786
Speaker 3: and Phil Simms and all those guys. It was, it was,

711
00:35:10,866 --> 00:35:14,226
Speaker 3: it was awesome. I actually my family stayed in Miami

712
00:35:14,666 --> 00:35:17,786
Speaker 3: because my kids were finishing high school and stuff. And

713
00:35:18,146 --> 00:35:21,226
Speaker 3: I'll never forget, like I moved back into you know,

714
00:35:21,466 --> 00:35:25,426
Speaker 3: I could say it now, I moved back into the

715
00:35:25,426 --> 00:35:29,066
Speaker 3: same house, the same room I grew up in. So

716
00:35:29,826 --> 00:35:32,506
Speaker 3: I moved until I ended up obviously got my own

717
00:35:32,506 --> 00:35:32,906
Speaker 3: place there.

718
00:35:32,986 --> 00:35:35,586
Speaker 1: How long were you there in your old parents' house?

719
00:35:35,826 --> 00:35:38,866
Speaker 3: Correct? It was about two months.

720
00:35:39,266 --> 00:35:42,146
Speaker 1: We got Farah fawcet posters. What are we dealing with here?

721
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:44,906
Speaker 1: We got Natari Tari and Nintendo? What do we got?

722
00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:47,426
Speaker 3: Thank god, Mom had cleared out most of that stuff

723
00:35:47,426 --> 00:35:49,706
Speaker 3: and it was a guest room. But I will say this,

724
00:35:50,186 --> 00:35:52,346
Speaker 3: she was like, you know, what time are you gonna

725
00:35:52,346 --> 00:35:53,026
Speaker 3: be home for dinner?

726
00:35:53,106 --> 00:36:00,106
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not, you got kids in high school.

727
00:36:00,146 --> 00:36:02,106
Speaker 1: I got what time you got dinner? Okay, your curfew

728
00:36:02,226 --> 00:36:02,506
Speaker 1: is this?

729
00:36:02,946 --> 00:36:03,306
Speaker 4: It was?

730
00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:06,226
Speaker 3: It was absolutely classic. But we finally found a place

731
00:36:06,266 --> 00:36:08,826
Speaker 3: to day. And but it was a great two months.

732
00:36:08,866 --> 00:36:09,106
Speaker 4: I did.

733
00:36:09,306 --> 00:36:11,066
Speaker 3: I did get some great meals and I packed on

734
00:36:11,106 --> 00:36:12,146
Speaker 3: about fifteen pounds.

735
00:36:12,186 --> 00:36:17,066
Speaker 1: Of course I'm cooking. Before we move on, Dan Campbell,

736
00:36:17,226 --> 00:36:18,946
Speaker 1: did you know then this guy had it?

737
00:36:19,786 --> 00:36:20,546
Speaker 4: Yeah? I love Dan.

738
00:36:20,706 --> 00:36:23,066
Speaker 3: You know, Dan is and he hasn't changed the lick.

739
00:36:23,226 --> 00:36:25,306
Speaker 3: And that's the great thing about Dan. I think myself

740
00:36:25,306 --> 00:36:28,426
Speaker 3: and Zach very similar in terms of while our approaches

741
00:36:28,466 --> 00:36:32,586
Speaker 3: may be different, we have none of us have changed

742
00:36:32,626 --> 00:36:35,226
Speaker 3: our personality. And I think Dan has remained. He's always

743
00:36:35,306 --> 00:36:37,386
Speaker 3: been that way. He was always that way as a

744
00:36:37,426 --> 00:36:40,546
Speaker 3: tight end coach. And you know we saw it for that,

745
00:36:41,026 --> 00:36:43,706
Speaker 3: you know, twelve games we had, you know, we had

746
00:36:43,786 --> 00:36:46,666
Speaker 3: most of the year that year as a head coach.

747
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:48,986
Speaker 3: We saw how he would be and you know, the

748
00:36:49,026 --> 00:36:53,146
Speaker 3: players rallied around him and us right away, and it

749
00:36:53,186 --> 00:36:53,906
Speaker 3: was it was great.

750
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,786
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have a good Dan Campbell story? Sorry

751
00:36:56,786 --> 00:36:59,706
Speaker 1: to go on the Dan Campbell tangent here about the content,

752
00:36:59,946 --> 00:37:02,626
Speaker 1: give me, give me the Dan. You're in an elevator

753
00:37:02,666 --> 00:37:04,106
Speaker 1: at a dinner party. They're like, oh, you worked with

754
00:37:04,186 --> 00:37:05,386
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. Give me a story.

755
00:37:05,386 --> 00:37:07,386
Speaker 3: What do you got, Well, I'll give you. I'll give

756
00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,546
Speaker 3: you a locker room story.

757
00:37:09,626 --> 00:37:11,106
Speaker 4: Nothing weird or anything.

758
00:37:11,186 --> 00:37:14,746
Speaker 3: But he knows me and I know him right, So

759
00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:17,146
Speaker 3: I would come in, we'd come in about the same time.

760
00:37:16,946 --> 00:37:17,506
Speaker 4: In the morning.

761
00:37:18,186 --> 00:37:20,706
Speaker 3: We'd end up in the you know, just putting our

762
00:37:21,146 --> 00:37:24,306
Speaker 3: coaching gear on, and he would you know, I'm not

763
00:37:24,386 --> 00:37:25,706
Speaker 3: the happiest guy in the morning.

764
00:37:25,786 --> 00:37:28,186
Speaker 4: I'm a little grumpy. And Dan's always ready to go.

765
00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:31,186
Speaker 3: So he would say he would look at the clock,

766
00:37:31,226 --> 00:37:34,266
Speaker 3: say up, can't talk to lou It's not past seven thirty.

767
00:37:34,466 --> 00:37:36,426
Speaker 3: He doesn't talk to anybody, and just break my you

768
00:37:36,466 --> 00:37:37,826
Speaker 3: know what the whole way through.

769
00:37:37,906 --> 00:37:39,866
Speaker 4: So now we still talk about that today.

770
00:37:39,946 --> 00:37:41,746
Speaker 3: I never called He never calls me in the morning

771
00:37:41,746 --> 00:37:42,986
Speaker 3: because he knows I'm not picking it up.

772
00:37:43,186 --> 00:37:49,426
Speaker 1: He knows better. I love that, all right, And then

773
00:37:49,466 --> 00:37:52,346
Speaker 1: your name starts getting hot and you get to Cincinnati,

774
00:37:52,346 --> 00:37:55,546
Speaker 1: you're running this defense, and the last couple off seasons

775
00:37:55,546 --> 00:37:58,106
Speaker 1: you've interviewed for head coaching jobs. What's your approach to

776
00:37:58,146 --> 00:38:01,706
Speaker 1: those interviews? And the Giants were one I know Arizona

777
00:38:01,866 --> 00:38:03,906
Speaker 1: got down to the wire last year. When you go

778
00:38:04,026 --> 00:38:06,026
Speaker 1: in there for those coaching jobs, what is your message

779
00:38:06,026 --> 00:38:08,186
Speaker 1: to these own And I have no doubt you will

780
00:38:08,186 --> 00:38:09,786
Speaker 1: be a head coach in the coming years if you

781
00:38:09,826 --> 00:38:11,786
Speaker 1: want to be. But what's it like going in for

782
00:38:11,826 --> 00:38:14,866
Speaker 1: those interviews and what's your why they should hire coach

783
00:38:14,946 --> 00:38:15,506
Speaker 1: Lou Romo?

784
00:38:15,986 --> 00:38:17,626
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I appreciate it, you know.

785
00:38:17,706 --> 00:38:19,386
Speaker 3: To me, I think at the end of the day,

786
00:38:19,626 --> 00:38:24,626
Speaker 3: what moves people, what moves teams, and it's it's how

787
00:38:24,666 --> 00:38:27,826
Speaker 3: you get these players and how you get them to

788
00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:30,826
Speaker 3: do things on a consistent basis, and how you motivate them.

789
00:38:31,306 --> 00:38:34,306
Speaker 3: This is a ultimate, as we all know, an ultimate

790
00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:37,666
Speaker 3: team game and team sport. But unless you can grab

791
00:38:37,746 --> 00:38:39,666
Speaker 3: each and every one of the guys on the team

792
00:38:39,746 --> 00:38:43,386
Speaker 3: at all positions, and I think I've been able to.

793
00:38:43,426 --> 00:38:44,586
Speaker 4: That's one of my strengths.

794
00:38:44,586 --> 00:38:47,746
Speaker 3: It's my biggest strength, is that I've never had an

795
00:38:47,746 --> 00:38:51,226
Speaker 3: issue of making sure that we come together as a group,

796
00:38:51,466 --> 00:38:54,306
Speaker 3: come together as a team, and ultimately, that's what the

797
00:38:54,346 --> 00:38:56,066
Speaker 3: head coach of a team should be is a guy

798
00:38:56,106 --> 00:38:59,546
Speaker 3: that can get guys to move towards a common goal

799
00:38:59,946 --> 00:39:02,226
Speaker 3: and do it in a way that they know that

800
00:39:02,226 --> 00:39:04,666
Speaker 3: there's a great amount of respect on both sides. You know,

801
00:39:04,706 --> 00:39:06,826
Speaker 3: I've always had I've always done a good job of

802
00:39:06,866 --> 00:39:10,986
Speaker 3: that and always done had away with players and make

803
00:39:11,026 --> 00:39:11,946
Speaker 3: sure we'll managing.

804
00:39:11,706 --> 00:39:12,386
Speaker 4: Them the right way.

805
00:39:12,426 --> 00:39:14,786
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you know, you

806
00:39:14,906 --> 00:39:16,546
Speaker 3: just listen to some of the things that they say.

807
00:39:16,546 --> 00:39:18,626
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not an ego guy or anything like that,

808
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:21,306
Speaker 3: but our guys play for us over here and they

809
00:39:21,306 --> 00:39:23,866
Speaker 3: always have And to me, that's the sign of a

810
00:39:24,426 --> 00:39:26,346
Speaker 3: good coach is that you get your guys to do

811
00:39:26,946 --> 00:39:27,866
Speaker 3: things consistently.

812
00:39:28,226 --> 00:39:30,626
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys play and you mentioned that Core four.

813
00:39:31,546 --> 00:39:33,866
Speaker 1: I watched these Bengals games. Those guys are so dialed

814
00:39:33,866 --> 00:39:38,266
Speaker 1: into the connection you have with Trey Hendrickson. Can you

815
00:39:38,306 --> 00:39:40,226
Speaker 1: talk about that guy, because I feel like he's most

816
00:39:40,306 --> 00:39:42,146
Speaker 1: underrated pass rusher in the sport in this week in

817
00:39:42,226 --> 00:39:44,626
Speaker 1: week out. He's causing trouble and we never talk about

818
00:39:44,666 --> 00:39:46,666
Speaker 1: him in the same conversation as a Miles Garrett or

819
00:39:46,666 --> 00:39:48,826
Speaker 1: a Bosa or even now Max Crosby.

820
00:39:49,186 --> 00:39:51,986
Speaker 3: It's amazing, you know some of the things and DJ

821
00:39:52,106 --> 00:39:55,226
Speaker 3: Reader kind of in the same light in a different

822
00:39:55,266 --> 00:39:57,986
Speaker 3: way in the run game. But Trey is just a phenomenal,

823
00:39:57,986 --> 00:40:02,586
Speaker 3: phenomenal pass rusher. He is always around the quarterback. You know,

824
00:40:02,626 --> 00:40:06,626
Speaker 3: the amount of hits, the false starts, the holding call.

825
00:40:07,226 --> 00:40:09,546
Speaker 3: He's had three or four sacks taken away this year

826
00:40:10,026 --> 00:40:12,266
Speaker 3: because the penalty's on third down or l TV, leading

827
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:16,586
Speaker 3: the league. So just a relentless guy and his approach

828
00:40:16,666 --> 00:40:19,626
Speaker 3: to the game and is in his approach to how

829
00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:22,706
Speaker 3: we pass rushes, but within this framework of what we're

830
00:40:22,706 --> 00:40:24,906
Speaker 3: doing on defense, which is rare to find these days.

831
00:40:24,906 --> 00:40:27,586
Speaker 3: And I think, to me, again, that's one of the

832
00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:31,786
Speaker 3: reasons why we've been good on defense is it's a

833
00:40:31,786 --> 00:40:34,826
Speaker 3: collective effort. It's not just one guy trying to do

834
00:40:34,866 --> 00:40:37,346
Speaker 3: more than he's supposed to do. And as you mentioned,

835
00:40:37,386 --> 00:40:40,026
Speaker 3: you know, we don't feel like we've got a bunch

836
00:40:40,026 --> 00:40:42,026
Speaker 3: of stars. We've got a bunch of really good football

837
00:40:42,026 --> 00:40:43,906
Speaker 3: players that play together as one.

838
00:40:44,386 --> 00:40:46,226
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just what it is when you're playing

839
00:40:46,226 --> 00:40:48,546
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals, with the exception of maybe Joe

840
00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:52,586
Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamaar Chase, it's just these are not superstar

841
00:40:52,866 --> 00:40:55,626
Speaker 1: you know. It's not Dallas, it's not the Giants. It's

842
00:40:55,706 --> 00:40:58,346
Speaker 1: not necessarily one of these franchises that gets the same

843
00:40:58,426 --> 00:41:01,146
Speaker 1: light because historically they haven't. And yet it doesn't seem

844
00:41:01,186 --> 00:41:03,706
Speaker 1: like your defensive players cry about that or even seem

845
00:41:03,746 --> 00:41:04,026
Speaker 1: to care.

846
00:41:04,546 --> 00:41:07,466
Speaker 3: No, they are a prideful group, number one, I'll tell

847
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:09,986
Speaker 3: you that. And we just kind of quietly go about

848
00:41:09,986 --> 00:41:12,146
Speaker 3: our business. And we know, like the other day during

849
00:41:12,146 --> 00:41:15,226
Speaker 3: the game, I hear DJ reader behind me, just put

850
00:41:15,266 --> 00:41:17,226
Speaker 3: the ball down again, let's go, let's get another stop,

851
00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:21,466
Speaker 3: Let's get another stop. There's never any varying from that,

852
00:41:21,706 --> 00:41:24,946
Speaker 3: and that's rare in today's NFL. And I think again,

853
00:41:25,026 --> 00:41:29,026
Speaker 3: it's a part of the culture that Zach's built as

854
00:41:29,066 --> 00:41:31,586
Speaker 3: a team and what we've tried to do here on defense.

855
00:41:31,626 --> 00:41:34,146
Speaker 3: And we can control what we can control, and a

856
00:41:34,186 --> 00:41:37,066
Speaker 3: lot of people say that, but we demonstrate it, and

857
00:41:37,626 --> 00:41:39,466
Speaker 3: you know, you can see it by how what we've

858
00:41:39,506 --> 00:41:41,346
Speaker 3: done in the biggest games.

859
00:41:41,306 --> 00:41:43,426
Speaker 1: Go around the division real quick, because I think that's

860
00:41:43,466 --> 00:41:46,746
Speaker 1: the most heated division when it comes to rivalry games.

861
00:41:46,786 --> 00:41:48,866
Speaker 1: And I feel like none of those teams like each other.

862
00:41:48,986 --> 00:41:51,186
Speaker 1: None of you guys want to lose to the other

863
00:41:51,226 --> 00:41:52,826
Speaker 1: one and another one want to see the other teams beat

864
00:41:52,866 --> 00:41:55,306
Speaker 1: the other ones. Like I think about even the Bengals,

865
00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:58,226
Speaker 1: like the dynamic between the Bengals and the Ravens is

866
00:41:58,306 --> 00:42:00,986
Speaker 1: very interesting in recent years. When you guys were down,

867
00:42:01,026 --> 00:42:03,506
Speaker 1: the Ravens were dancing on the graves, and then when

868
00:42:03,586 --> 00:42:05,226
Speaker 1: you guys had a chance a couple of years ago,

869
00:42:05,226 --> 00:42:07,266
Speaker 1: you poured it on the Ravens pretty bad. And there's

870
00:42:07,266 --> 00:42:10,746
Speaker 1: no love there. Steelers. Of course, the Browns for whatever reason,

871
00:42:10,986 --> 00:42:13,586
Speaker 1: continue to win against you guys, and then it's like

872
00:42:13,626 --> 00:42:15,746
Speaker 1: a round robin. Everyone seems to beat the other teams

873
00:42:16,266 --> 00:42:18,666
Speaker 1: those division games n AFC North, Now that you've been there

874
00:42:18,706 --> 00:42:21,106
Speaker 1: for several years, just how significant are those matchups?

875
00:42:21,266 --> 00:42:22,866
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable.

876
00:42:22,986 --> 00:42:25,026
Speaker 3: I mean, you go back to last year's playoffs and

877
00:42:25,026 --> 00:42:27,306
Speaker 3: I felt like we played the Ravens fifteen weeks in.

878
00:42:27,266 --> 00:42:29,546
Speaker 1: A row the last game of the season, that right

879
00:42:29,586 --> 00:42:30,266
Speaker 1: in the wild.

880
00:42:30,026 --> 00:42:33,586
Speaker 3: Card, and you know, we all know what we're getting

881
00:42:33,586 --> 00:42:37,266
Speaker 3: into when we, you know, strapping up against those guys

882
00:42:38,186 --> 00:42:40,826
Speaker 3: or the as you mentioned, the Steelers and as you mentioned,

883
00:42:40,826 --> 00:42:43,106
Speaker 3: the Browns have kind of had our number a little bit.

884
00:42:43,146 --> 00:42:47,426
Speaker 3: But you know, it's fierce competitiveness. It's like, you know,

885
00:42:47,466 --> 00:42:50,866
Speaker 3: we used to have this great rivalry a Thanksgiving Day

886
00:42:50,986 --> 00:42:53,186
Speaker 3: game in high school where you got two neighbors they're

887
00:42:53,226 --> 00:42:55,146
Speaker 3: going to go against each other. That's how every one

888
00:42:55,186 --> 00:42:57,186
Speaker 3: of these games are, and you know it's going to

889
00:42:57,266 --> 00:43:00,266
Speaker 3: usually come down right to the end, but they are tough.

890
00:43:00,946 --> 00:43:04,786
Speaker 3: Everything I heard about the AFC North is true. You

891
00:43:04,826 --> 00:43:06,986
Speaker 3: know you're going to come in here and you know,

892
00:43:07,346 --> 00:43:09,226
Speaker 3: as I tell our guys, the only adjustments we're gonna

893
00:43:09,226 --> 00:43:10,866
Speaker 3: have to make is to tighten our chin strap.

894
00:43:10,866 --> 00:43:11,386
Speaker 4: And right.

895
00:43:13,066 --> 00:43:15,586
Speaker 1: Last year, after the AFC Championship game, there was the

896
00:43:15,666 --> 00:43:17,546
Speaker 1: late hit call and everyone's there, and there was the

897
00:43:17,586 --> 00:43:20,266
Speaker 1: clip of Pratt talking in the locker room, and that

898
00:43:20,266 --> 00:43:22,386
Speaker 1: could blow up a lot of teams. It seemed like

899
00:43:22,386 --> 00:43:25,266
Speaker 1: it didn't affect the Cincinnati Bengals. What was the conversations

900
00:43:25,306 --> 00:43:28,826
Speaker 1: afterwards Asi Pratt and then of course the late hit

901
00:43:28,866 --> 00:43:31,426
Speaker 1: called itself that that really was kind of a non

902
00:43:31,466 --> 00:43:32,866
Speaker 1: issue once the season started.

903
00:43:33,226 --> 00:43:36,946
Speaker 3: So I think it's a great question, and I actually

904
00:43:36,986 --> 00:43:41,506
Speaker 3: used it on my interview with Arizona and because it

905
00:43:41,666 --> 00:43:44,706
Speaker 3: was a moment where, you know, Jermaine is an emotional guy,

906
00:43:44,746 --> 00:43:47,466
Speaker 3: and that's an emotional moment at the highest level where

907
00:43:47,466 --> 00:43:49,946
Speaker 3: three points away from going to back to back Super Bowls,

908
00:43:50,626 --> 00:43:55,266
Speaker 3: and so he said what he said, But the next

909
00:43:55,346 --> 00:43:59,746
Speaker 3: day in the locker room, Jermaine is basically crying and saying,

910
00:43:59,986 --> 00:44:01,826
Speaker 3: you know, it's my fault. I was.

911
00:44:01,946 --> 00:44:03,506
Speaker 4: You know, I shouldn't have said what I said.

912
00:44:03,626 --> 00:44:05,666
Speaker 3: You know, Joe is part of the reasons why we

913
00:44:05,706 --> 00:44:09,266
Speaker 3: got to this point and just squashed it immediately without

914
00:44:09,466 --> 00:44:11,186
Speaker 3: I didn't have to say nothing to him, Zach didn't

915
00:44:11,226 --> 00:44:12,306
Speaker 3: have to say anything to him.

916
00:44:12,506 --> 00:44:14,826
Speaker 4: It was just a heated moment. But but it was

917
00:44:14,866 --> 00:44:15,746
Speaker 4: squashed right away.

918
00:44:15,826 --> 00:44:18,506
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, bj Hill has his arm

919
00:44:18,546 --> 00:44:21,266
Speaker 3: around Joseph who's crying in the locker room because he

920
00:44:21,466 --> 00:44:22,266
Speaker 3: obviously didn't.

921
00:44:22,026 --> 00:44:22,906
Speaker 4: Want to do that.

922
00:44:24,266 --> 00:44:27,186
Speaker 3: And just said, no more questions for him. I'll answer

923
00:44:27,266 --> 00:44:30,866
Speaker 3: his questions today. And so again, to me, I showed

924
00:44:30,906 --> 00:44:32,266
Speaker 3: that I had all I had my.

925
00:44:32,306 --> 00:44:35,546
Speaker 1: Pet emotional, I get emotional. Are you talking about it?

926
00:44:35,026 --> 00:44:37,906
Speaker 3: It was and I felt the need to like, well,

927
00:44:37,906 --> 00:44:40,106
Speaker 3: how do you how do you show culture? How do

928
00:44:40,186 --> 00:44:42,546
Speaker 3: you what's your way of changing our culture?

929
00:44:42,546 --> 00:44:44,346
Speaker 4: Well? Here here it is, let me show you.

930
00:44:44,786 --> 00:44:47,546
Speaker 3: Uh And and these guys want to you know, they

931
00:44:47,586 --> 00:44:50,506
Speaker 3: want to not only play for each other, but they're

932
00:44:50,506 --> 00:44:52,626
Speaker 3: going to stand up for each other in the most

933
00:44:52,746 --> 00:44:53,666
Speaker 3: heated moments.

934
00:44:53,666 --> 00:44:56,146
Speaker 4: You know, when everything's going good and you're winning games,

935
00:44:56,386 --> 00:44:57,666
Speaker 4: anybody can be the head coach.

936
00:44:57,826 --> 00:45:01,426
Speaker 3: Okay, it's when you have gone through what we've gone

937
00:45:01,466 --> 00:45:04,346
Speaker 3: through here from five years ago to where we are

938
00:45:04,426 --> 00:45:08,066
Speaker 3: now and and all of the steps away, both positively

939
00:45:08,106 --> 00:45:10,946
Speaker 3: and negatively, that you really know what is needed to

940
00:45:10,986 --> 00:45:12,786
Speaker 3: be done to change a team around.

941
00:45:13,146 --> 00:45:13,826
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

942
00:45:14,666 --> 00:45:14,946
Speaker 2: All right.

943
00:45:14,986 --> 00:45:16,906
Speaker 1: We did a little rapid fire here to wrap things up.

944
00:45:16,946 --> 00:45:17,986
Speaker 1: I love talking to you. I can talk to you

945
00:45:18,026 --> 00:45:19,666
Speaker 1: for an hour. You don't have an hour. You're doing

946
00:45:19,666 --> 00:45:21,746
Speaker 1: a solid and giving me some time. You're prepared for

947
00:45:21,826 --> 00:45:25,706
Speaker 1: your next game. You've coached for many years NFL college.

948
00:45:26,466 --> 00:45:29,666
Speaker 1: Who is the offensive player that you would say is

949
00:45:29,786 --> 00:45:32,786
Speaker 1: just an absolute freak that you prepare for night and day,

950
00:45:32,826 --> 00:45:34,946
Speaker 1: and then they get out there and it's like could

951
00:45:34,986 --> 00:45:36,786
Speaker 1: be active, could be current, could be for me, You're

952
00:45:36,826 --> 00:45:39,386
Speaker 1: just like, holy crap, there is no answer for when

953
00:45:39,426 --> 00:45:40,386
Speaker 1: this guy is on his game.

954
00:45:40,746 --> 00:45:43,666
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's there's some ones that you know.

955
00:45:43,706 --> 00:45:45,506
Speaker 3: I go back to Calvin Johnson. We were trying to

956
00:45:45,506 --> 00:45:48,106
Speaker 3: get ready for him at when he was at Detroit

957
00:45:48,146 --> 00:45:52,666
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, what do we do? Thank god

958
00:45:52,706 --> 00:45:54,946
Speaker 3: I had thank god I had Brent Grimes where he

959
00:45:54,946 --> 00:45:56,146
Speaker 3: could like jump through.

960
00:45:56,346 --> 00:45:57,186
Speaker 4: And made that great.

961
00:45:57,746 --> 00:46:00,306
Speaker 3: I remember that one yeah, great one, but but he

962
00:46:00,386 --> 00:46:02,786
Speaker 3: had Brent was hanging all over him on another where

963
00:46:02,786 --> 00:46:04,466
Speaker 3: he caught a touchdown on him and he couldn't get

964
00:46:04,506 --> 00:46:06,546
Speaker 3: you know, kind of get through to him. But I

965
00:46:06,546 --> 00:46:10,106
Speaker 3: mean that from a wide receiver standpoint, he was damn

966
00:46:10,106 --> 00:46:12,786
Speaker 3: near impossible. You know, We've got Lamar in our division

967
00:46:12,786 --> 00:46:15,666
Speaker 3: that we have to face twice and just to you know,

968
00:46:15,826 --> 00:46:18,666
Speaker 3: just a he's the best athlete on the field when

969
00:46:18,706 --> 00:46:21,826
Speaker 3: he's out there. But there's there's so many. Those are

970
00:46:21,826 --> 00:46:23,946
Speaker 3: the two that come to mind. You know, we're going

971
00:46:23,986 --> 00:46:26,186
Speaker 3: to see one in two weeks. You know, the running

972
00:46:26,226 --> 00:46:28,266
Speaker 3: back at San Francisco, who's pretty good.

973
00:46:28,306 --> 00:46:29,746
Speaker 1: You know, Caffrey's pretty good.

974
00:46:30,546 --> 00:46:31,586
Speaker 4: So there's a.

975
00:46:31,506 --> 00:46:35,386
Speaker 3: Lot of them, you know, and I'm just fortunate we

976
00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:37,866
Speaker 3: can always draw back on some of those great matchups

977
00:46:37,866 --> 00:46:40,626
Speaker 3: that we've had to try to help our guys, you know,

978
00:46:40,986 --> 00:46:44,426
Speaker 3: get through. And I think, you know, you know, you know,

979
00:46:44,506 --> 00:46:46,866
Speaker 3: an example would be Cam Taylor brid from last week.

980
00:46:47,306 --> 00:46:48,666
Speaker 4: It's DK and you.

981
00:46:48,626 --> 00:46:50,546
Speaker 3: Know, I had showed him some clips of when we

982
00:46:50,546 --> 00:46:54,346
Speaker 3: played Julio Jones back in the day, and I said, listen,

983
00:46:54,466 --> 00:46:57,226
Speaker 3: you know, here's a size difference, but it doesn't matter

984
00:46:57,226 --> 00:46:58,986
Speaker 3: if you play with proper technique and this that.

985
00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,706
Speaker 1: And the other thing. How's that work? So I love that.

986
00:47:00,906 --> 00:47:04,466
Speaker 1: So Camp Taylor Britt second year guy. You know SEC guys,

987
00:47:04,866 --> 00:47:07,706
Speaker 1: talent everything. Does he know? Oh who Julio Jones is?

988
00:47:07,746 --> 00:47:09,466
Speaker 1: Did he grow up watching Hulo? And you're like, look,

989
00:47:09,506 --> 00:47:11,906
Speaker 1: your receiver is DK Metcalf, you know him, But here's

990
00:47:11,986 --> 00:47:13,786
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. And here's how you would defend a guy

991
00:47:13,826 --> 00:47:16,546
Speaker 1: who's arguably the greatest of his generation. And is he

992
00:47:16,666 --> 00:47:18,866
Speaker 1: like all right, I'll go watch tape of Julio Or

993
00:47:18,946 --> 00:47:20,306
Speaker 1: is he like get out of here, coach, I'm watching

994
00:47:20,346 --> 00:47:21,746
Speaker 1: DK metf or I don't want to deal with it

995
00:47:21,786 --> 00:47:22,066
Speaker 1: at all.

996
00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:24,866
Speaker 3: No, he's like a sponge. He wants to he wants

997
00:47:24,866 --> 00:47:26,506
Speaker 3: to learn and hear everything. I just showed him a

998
00:47:26,546 --> 00:47:30,186
Speaker 3: couple of clips when we played him, probably twenty thirteen,

999
00:47:30,266 --> 00:47:33,546
Speaker 3: I think it was when he was Atlanta, you know.

1000
00:47:33,986 --> 00:47:35,786
Speaker 1: At his height of his Grenking shop.

1001
00:47:35,946 --> 00:47:39,146
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had a couple of good plays against him. Now,

1002
00:47:39,146 --> 00:47:40,666
Speaker 3: there was some bad ones I didn't show him, but

1003
00:47:40,906 --> 00:47:46,386
Speaker 3: of course hi that yeah, yeah, yeah, but he cam

1004
00:47:46,466 --> 00:47:48,946
Speaker 3: listens to everything. But I just think it's it's great

1005
00:47:48,986 --> 00:47:52,346
Speaker 3: when you can show former players against great players and

1006
00:47:52,426 --> 00:47:54,266
Speaker 3: really some of the similar things that we're doing.

1007
00:47:54,266 --> 00:47:54,466
Speaker 4: Now.

1008
00:47:54,826 --> 00:47:58,066
Speaker 1: All right, a couple more. Your favorite defensive player in

1009
00:47:58,106 --> 00:47:59,826
Speaker 1: the history of the sport. You mentioned you were a

1010
00:47:59,866 --> 00:48:02,346
Speaker 1: fan of LT growing up, but as a mastermind of

1011
00:48:02,426 --> 00:48:05,386
Speaker 1: defense who has been doing this since nineteen eighty nine

1012
00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:08,946
Speaker 1: coaching football, who is your prototype? You say, defensive player?

1013
00:48:08,986 --> 00:48:09,746
Speaker 1: Give me this guy?

1014
00:48:10,226 --> 00:48:12,546
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard not to say LT. I

1015
00:48:12,586 --> 00:48:14,786
Speaker 3: mean that would be you know, the one.

1016
00:48:14,906 --> 00:48:15,106
Speaker 4: I mean.

1017
00:48:15,146 --> 00:48:17,986
Speaker 3: I've been around some great rushers. I'll tell you about

1018
00:48:17,986 --> 00:48:21,346
Speaker 3: the guys that I've been around, you know. I mean again,

1019
00:48:21,386 --> 00:48:23,426
Speaker 3: a quiet guy that probably doesn't get as much.

1020
00:48:23,426 --> 00:48:25,066
Speaker 1: Can I guess? Can I guess who it's going to be?

1021
00:48:25,226 --> 00:48:28,786
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're gonna say, Cam, Wake, Wake, Let's go.

1022
00:48:29,106 --> 00:48:31,306
Speaker 1: Can't wake? His flowers gets no love.

1023
00:48:31,306 --> 00:48:32,466
Speaker 4: No love the guy.

1024
00:48:32,586 --> 00:48:34,986
Speaker 3: You know, there's only about thirty some odd guys in

1025
00:48:35,026 --> 00:48:37,026
Speaker 3: the NFL that have over one hundred sacks in their

1026
00:48:37,106 --> 00:48:39,426
Speaker 3: career and maybe more now. Last time I checked, it

1027
00:48:39,466 --> 00:48:42,626
Speaker 3: was in the thirties. I mean thirty guys, ever, and

1028
00:48:42,706 --> 00:48:43,746
Speaker 3: Cam is one of those.

1029
00:48:43,986 --> 00:48:44,186
Speaker 4: Now.

1030
00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:46,386
Speaker 3: Cam used to sit next to me for six years

1031
00:48:46,386 --> 00:48:49,906
Speaker 3: in the team meeting, so he's my guy. But I've

1032
00:48:49,906 --> 00:48:53,986
Speaker 3: never seen a guy rush as consistent as Cam and

1033
00:48:54,066 --> 00:48:57,226
Speaker 3: is as powerful as he was, and how he affected games.

1034
00:48:57,266 --> 00:49:03,106
Speaker 3: You know, So giving me a guy, I mean.

1035
00:49:00,546 --> 00:49:00,626
Speaker 2: I.

1036
00:49:03,266 --> 00:49:09,066
Speaker 1: Get it all right. Last one coolest non football person

1037
00:49:09,106 --> 00:49:10,906
Speaker 1: that you've got to come across that you've got to

1038
00:49:10,946 --> 00:49:14,386
Speaker 1: spend time with, whether it be a celebrity, legendary leader,

1039
00:49:15,106 --> 00:49:18,386
Speaker 1: someone in the business world that this career has led

1040
00:49:18,426 --> 00:49:20,626
Speaker 1: to where hey, I got the opportunity to meet this

1041
00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:21,386
Speaker 1: person as well.

1042
00:49:23,346 --> 00:49:24,386
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see.

1043
00:49:24,466 --> 00:49:27,546
Speaker 3: So I would say, you know, just some of my

1044
00:49:27,626 --> 00:49:31,026
Speaker 3: Harvard buddies that I used to coach are now very

1045
00:49:31,026 --> 00:49:34,506
Speaker 3: prominent people around the in the business world and other things.

1046
00:49:34,546 --> 00:49:40,426
Speaker 3: So Jase Snowden, who's the CEO of Penn Gaming. Jay

1047
00:49:40,466 --> 00:49:43,426
Speaker 3: and I played some golf this summer and he introduced

1048
00:49:43,466 --> 00:49:45,866
Speaker 3: me to a few people. But when you're around, when

1049
00:49:45,906 --> 00:49:48,186
Speaker 3: you're around guys like that and the and the reach

1050
00:49:48,306 --> 00:49:51,346
Speaker 3: that they have and the way they talk about the

1051
00:49:51,346 --> 00:49:53,706
Speaker 3: people that they talk about, it's pretty cool. And just

1052
00:49:53,826 --> 00:49:55,586
Speaker 3: listening to how a guy like.

1053
00:49:55,546 --> 00:49:59,146
Speaker 1: That how build a company is how.

1054
00:49:59,066 --> 00:50:01,946
Speaker 3: They build a company, how they manage their employees, how

1055
00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:05,266
Speaker 3: all of that And not only do we play golf,

1056
00:50:05,346 --> 00:50:07,506
Speaker 3: but you know, you just s in there and we're

1057
00:50:07,506 --> 00:50:09,746
Speaker 3: going back and forth because when I was coaching him,

1058
00:50:09,786 --> 00:50:11,906
Speaker 3: it was probably about a six year age difference.

1059
00:50:11,906 --> 00:50:14,586
Speaker 1: I don't know six eight What position was he in college?

1060
00:50:14,706 --> 00:50:17,626
Speaker 3: Jay was a quarterback that we turned into it I

1061
00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:18,666
Speaker 3: wanted as a safety.

1062
00:50:18,666 --> 00:50:20,546
Speaker 4: In his last two years he played safety for me.

1063
00:50:20,866 --> 00:50:23,666
Speaker 1: And he ends up selling Penn Gaming or the rights

1064
00:50:23,666 --> 00:50:26,226
Speaker 1: to pend At to ESPN for about a billion dollars.

1065
00:50:26,266 --> 00:50:27,666
Speaker 1: Like last week or something that's not.

1066
00:50:27,626 --> 00:50:29,506
Speaker 4: Bad, No, not a bad day at the office.

1067
00:50:29,546 --> 00:50:32,546
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I asked him, like, you come into the

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00:50:32,546 --> 00:50:34,306
Speaker 3: game this week, I don't want to hear any you

1069
00:50:34,346 --> 00:50:37,186
Speaker 3: know bs. You can't you know, can't get a flight?

1070
00:50:39,106 --> 00:50:41,266
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who else? I love this? You go down these

1071
00:50:41,266 --> 00:50:43,946
Speaker 1: Harvard walls, You're probably having all sorts of different people.

1072
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Speaker 1: I love this, this image of you as a football

1073
00:50:46,386 --> 00:50:47,626
Speaker 1: coach of all these guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, we had I tell you what we did have.

1075
00:50:51,506 --> 00:50:55,306
Speaker 3: Warren Buffett walked through the halls of the Miami Dolphin facility.

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00:50:55,666 --> 00:50:58,386
Speaker 1: Do we have a coke? Was he drinking? The story

1077
00:50:58,466 --> 00:50:59,986
Speaker 1: is he has every day he starts with a coke.

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00:51:00,026 --> 00:51:02,026
Speaker 1: I think I bet you he's not drinking coke.

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00:51:02,066 --> 00:51:05,826
Speaker 3: I didn't do that, But this is not like I'm

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00:51:05,826 --> 00:51:08,306
Speaker 3: not telling any he was in pregame?

1081
00:51:08,906 --> 00:51:10,666
Speaker 1: Is any friends with Sue? Is that what it was? Like?

1082
00:51:10,706 --> 00:51:14,906
Speaker 3: Him? A sewer boys, So he was in pregame with

1083
00:51:15,586 --> 00:51:16,906
Speaker 3: shoulder pads and.

1084
00:51:19,546 --> 00:51:20,786
Speaker 4: Go find the tape.

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00:51:20,946 --> 00:51:26,186
Speaker 1: It's out there, some Warren Buffett wearing shoulder pads and

1086
00:51:26,266 --> 00:51:30,146
Speaker 1: a helmet and h and Domkin Sue Jersey after Mike

1087
00:51:30,186 --> 00:51:32,946
Speaker 1: Tannebaum just signed Sue for the biggest contract of all time.

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00:51:33,106 --> 00:51:35,106
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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00:51:37,026 --> 00:51:39,146
Speaker 1: Do you ask Buffett anything? Are you just kind of

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00:51:39,146 --> 00:51:40,266
Speaker 1: sheepishly nod your.

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00:51:40,106 --> 00:51:43,706
Speaker 4: Head like is that really? What is am I dreaming?

1092
00:51:43,826 --> 00:51:43,906
Speaker 1: Like?

1093
00:51:43,946 --> 00:51:46,026
Speaker 3: What is going on right now? As we're getting ready

1094
00:51:46,066 --> 00:51:48,266
Speaker 3: to play somebody, I'm like, is that really warm? Buffett

1095
00:51:48,426 --> 00:51:50,946
Speaker 3: in a in a Halloween costume essentially?

1096
00:51:51,426 --> 00:51:54,146
Speaker 1: And it was all right. My last one is very

1097
00:51:54,146 --> 00:51:56,746
Speaker 1: personal to you. Saturday Night Fever is a movie from

1098
00:51:56,746 --> 00:52:00,026
Speaker 1: the seventies. Anyone who knows anything immediately it says about

1099
00:52:00,026 --> 00:52:02,226
Speaker 1: Staten Island all like Saturay Night Fever. You had to

1100
00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:04,986
Speaker 1: answer those questions your entire childhood, I'm sure, right through

1101
00:52:05,026 --> 00:52:06,826
Speaker 1: college and right through the pros. It's kind of a

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00:52:06,906 --> 00:52:09,746
Speaker 1: dated reference now. I think Staten Island's having a little

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00:52:09,786 --> 00:52:12,146
Speaker 1: resurgence right now. You got you doing this at the

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00:52:12,266 --> 00:52:15,586
Speaker 1: NFL level. You got Pete Davidson, you got Colin Jokes,

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00:52:15,626 --> 00:52:18,586
Speaker 1: you got the impractical jokers. I feel like Staten Island's

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00:52:18,626 --> 00:52:21,026
Speaker 1: having a moment. How proud are you of Staten Island?

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Speaker 1: And take this moment here to tell all those Manhattan

1108
00:52:23,986 --> 00:52:25,626
Speaker 1: snobs that, you know what, You're not the only show

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Speaker 1: in town.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.

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00:52:27,346 --> 00:52:29,946
Speaker 3: We've always felt like the forgotten borough. When I tell

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00:52:29,986 --> 00:52:33,106
Speaker 3: people that I'm from New York City, they will where

1113
00:52:33,266 --> 00:52:34,466
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Staten Island.

1114
00:52:34,466 --> 00:52:36,106
Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, no, it's not New York. No, I

1115
00:52:36,146 --> 00:52:37,146
Speaker 4: said it is.

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00:52:37,506 --> 00:52:40,706
Speaker 3: There's five boroughs and we're one of them. But no,

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00:52:40,826 --> 00:52:43,266
Speaker 3: I you know, I love growing up there. It's part

1118
00:52:43,306 --> 00:52:46,746
Speaker 3: of again who I am and what you know, I'll

1119
00:52:46,746 --> 00:52:50,786
Speaker 3: never forget. I was going to probably fifth or sixth grade,

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00:52:50,866 --> 00:52:53,226
Speaker 3: standing on a city bus, waiting for the city bus

1121
00:52:53,266 --> 00:52:55,466
Speaker 3: to go, and you know, you're getting on that bus

1122
00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:59,626
Speaker 3: with all types of different people, and it's that's one scenario.

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00:52:59,706 --> 00:53:01,146
Speaker 3: But that's made me who I am today, and I

1124
00:53:01,146 --> 00:53:04,426
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to grow grown up anywhere else around. I

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00:53:04,626 --> 00:53:07,426
Speaker 3: still have great friends from there, and you know, most

1126
00:53:07,466 --> 00:53:12,306
Speaker 3: of my family lives there still, and you know, I

1127
00:53:12,346 --> 00:53:14,666
Speaker 3: go right back to Donino's Pizza every time I go.

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00:53:14,786 --> 00:53:18,266
Speaker 1: Come on, talk about it, Danino's Pizza. Were you a

1129
00:53:18,306 --> 00:53:20,986
Speaker 1: faery guy into the city or do you take the verizontal.

1130
00:53:20,586 --> 00:53:24,266
Speaker 3: Bridge more the more? The bridge ferry every now and again?

1131
00:53:24,386 --> 00:53:27,106
Speaker 3: But uh uh yeah, I was more of a more

1132
00:53:27,146 --> 00:53:28,626
Speaker 3: of a go over the arizonta.

1133
00:53:29,186 --> 00:53:31,426
Speaker 1: Okay, are you into the Impractical Jokers? Do you know

1134
00:53:31,466 --> 00:53:31,866
Speaker 1: their work?

1135
00:53:32,226 --> 00:53:35,066
Speaker 4: So I do. I watched them. They're funny.

1136
00:53:35,546 --> 00:53:39,266
Speaker 3: My son when I went to the Giants, he transferred

1137
00:53:39,266 --> 00:53:42,786
Speaker 3: to from Saint Thomas Aquinas down in Fort Lauderdale to Farrell,

1138
00:53:42,866 --> 00:53:46,066
Speaker 3: my senior Farrell and my brother in law went to college.

1139
00:53:46,186 --> 00:53:48,306
Speaker 3: I went to Farrell, I guess at the same time

1140
00:53:48,306 --> 00:53:52,226
Speaker 3: when those guys were there. So, uh, funny story. A

1141
00:53:52,266 --> 00:53:56,066
Speaker 3: bunch of Farrell guys came to this past game against

1142
00:53:56,386 --> 00:53:57,026
Speaker 3: the Seahawks.

1143
00:53:57,066 --> 00:53:58,506
Speaker 1: Yeah really yeah.

1144
00:53:58,506 --> 00:54:02,826
Speaker 3: They were wearing Farrell pullovers and they got asked like

1145
00:54:03,026 --> 00:54:05,066
Speaker 3: five six times like, hey, is it that where the

1146
00:54:05,186 --> 00:54:06,426
Speaker 3: Impractical Jokers are from?

1147
00:54:06,586 --> 00:54:07,666
Speaker 4: So there you go.

1148
00:54:07,706 --> 00:54:09,346
Speaker 3: But yeah, we've got we're getting a little bit of

1149
00:54:09,386 --> 00:54:10,626
Speaker 3: a name for ourselves for sure.

1150
00:54:10,666 --> 00:54:12,586
Speaker 1: I love it, dude, Thank you and the Bengals have

1151
00:54:12,586 --> 00:54:14,546
Speaker 1: a name from how's that transition? The Bengals are making

1152
00:54:14,546 --> 00:54:16,226
Speaker 1: a name for themselves. You guys are already well on

1153
00:54:16,266 --> 00:54:19,266
Speaker 1: the scene. You know my feelings felt. You've seen me

1154
00:54:19,306 --> 00:54:21,626
Speaker 1: talk about you on TV, but also just in our interactions.

1155
00:54:21,666 --> 00:54:23,586
Speaker 1: I think you're the best of the best, and it

1156
00:54:23,666 --> 00:54:24,986
Speaker 1: means so much to me that you would come on

1157
00:54:25,026 --> 00:54:28,786
Speaker 1: the podcast and from the Merchant Marine Academy to now

1158
00:54:28,826 --> 00:54:30,306
Speaker 1: the top of the game in the NFL. It's been

1159
00:54:30,306 --> 00:54:31,546
Speaker 1: a pretty cool story, dude.

1160
00:54:32,146 --> 00:54:33,026
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.

1161
00:54:33,026 --> 00:54:35,866
Speaker 3: Appreciate you having me and uh, we're just looking forward

1162
00:54:35,906 --> 00:54:36,866
Speaker 3: to keep this thing rolling.

1163
00:54:36,906 --> 00:54:38,026
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate it.

1164
00:54:38,106 --> 00:54:40,746
Speaker 1: That's the approach, guys. Lou Amo defensive coordinator of the

1165
00:54:40,746 --> 00:54:43,066
Speaker 1: Bengals and a head coach of your team in the

1166
00:54:43,066 --> 00:54:45,106
Speaker 1: next couple of years. We appreciate you coming on, man.

1167
00:54:45,226 --> 00:54:48,586
Speaker 1: Thanks thank you Aaron coach Louena Rumo. I feel like

1168
00:54:48,586 --> 00:54:50,186
Speaker 1: these guys come on and you walk away, You're like,

1169
00:54:50,186 --> 00:54:51,906
Speaker 1: all right, hire them for my head coaching job. I

1170
00:54:51,946 --> 00:54:54,346
Speaker 1: don't know how Arizona walked out of that meeting. It

1171
00:54:54,466 --> 00:54:56,426
Speaker 1: wasn't like, yes that guy now, Agan, It's been great,

1172
00:54:56,466 --> 00:54:59,026
Speaker 1: But I love lou and I think his unit always

1173
00:54:59,106 --> 00:55:02,066
Speaker 1: ends up playing well, and that's with a rotating bunch

1174
00:55:02,106 --> 00:55:04,906
Speaker 1: of names at that defensive back position, which is not

1175
00:55:05,066 --> 00:55:06,946
Speaker 1: an easy position to fill, especially with young guys in

1176
00:55:06,986 --> 00:55:07,586
Speaker 1: that conference.

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00:55:07,906 --> 00:55:10,226
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like he was saying, I mean, they don't

1178
00:55:10,266 --> 00:55:13,466
Speaker 2: have a big star, they don't have Aaron Donald. They

1179
00:55:13,506 --> 00:55:15,266
Speaker 2: just have a group of guys that are all great

1180
00:55:15,426 --> 00:55:18,106
Speaker 2: and working together. And that's one of the things that

1181
00:55:18,146 --> 00:55:20,946
Speaker 2: makes that defense so frustrating to have to play against.

1182
00:55:21,266 --> 00:55:24,106
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen Dolphins. Joe Fildman is fired midway through the

1183
00:55:24,146 --> 00:55:26,346
Speaker 1: season after they go to Europe or they go to London.

1184
00:55:26,826 --> 00:55:30,026
Speaker 1: Come back. Dan Campbell, the tight ends coach, is interim coach.

1185
00:55:30,306 --> 00:55:32,746
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is now the tight ends coach, Ben Johnson,

1186
00:55:32,746 --> 00:55:35,506
Speaker 1: who's now the innovator in Detroit. Zach Taylor is the

1187
00:55:35,506 --> 00:55:38,866
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and lou Ana Roumos a defensive coordinator. I

1188
00:55:38,906 --> 00:55:41,026
Speaker 1: did not know that until this interviewer. That is fascinating.

1189
00:55:41,026 --> 00:55:43,066
Speaker 1: It's a deep dive. We I mean, I love that stuff.

1190
00:55:43,386 --> 00:55:47,426
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like the vague memories of when Dan

1191
00:55:47,506 --> 00:55:50,666
Speaker 2: Campbell took over are not something that is that I

1192
00:55:50,666 --> 00:55:52,666
Speaker 2: would be able to recall if I were on a

1193
00:55:52,706 --> 00:55:53,426
Speaker 2: Jeopardy game.

1194
00:55:53,506 --> 00:55:56,266
Speaker 1: It would not come up for me unfortunately, so it

1195
00:55:56,306 --> 00:55:59,026
Speaker 1: all goes back to jeopardy. Anyway. Thanks to coach Lou

1196
00:55:59,626 --> 00:56:01,426
Speaker 1: Bengals are always going to be in the mix. Even

1197
00:56:01,426 --> 00:56:02,946
Speaker 1: when they were zero and two or one and two,

1198
00:56:02,986 --> 00:56:06,346
Speaker 1: it was like, they're gonna be players when it matters more.

1199
00:56:06,666 --> 00:56:09,066
Speaker 1: If Burrow's calf is healthy, they'll be in there. And

1200
00:56:09,066 --> 00:56:10,586
Speaker 1: then of course they rattle off too in a row

1201
00:56:10,666 --> 00:56:14,226
Speaker 1: against two good teams. That's where they are now. We

1202
00:56:14,426 --> 00:56:17,386
Speaker 1: love to give love to those who love us. It's

1203
00:56:17,426 --> 00:56:21,066
Speaker 1: time for delivering results. Presented by Uber Eats. I'm gonna

1204
00:56:21,066 --> 00:56:23,906
Speaker 1: discuss a team or a player that delivered from this

1205
00:56:23,946 --> 00:56:26,906
Speaker 1: week's games. And you know who I'm going with right now.

1206
00:56:27,306 --> 00:56:31,706
Speaker 1: I'm going with the New York Jets, and I'm going

1207
00:56:31,746 --> 00:56:34,186
Speaker 1: specifically with the New York Jets defense, which stepped it

1208
00:56:34,266 --> 00:56:38,866
Speaker 1: up despite not having DJ Reid or Sauce Gardner, Guys

1209
00:56:38,946 --> 00:56:41,586
Speaker 1: like Jordan Whitehead making huge plays, and then in the

1210
00:56:41,586 --> 00:56:46,386
Speaker 1: biggest moment, Tony Adams. Tony Adams, an undrafted free agent

1211
00:56:46,426 --> 00:56:49,346
Speaker 1: out of Illinois in his second year playing safety, having

1212
00:56:49,426 --> 00:56:52,466
Speaker 1: to move all around tuk to Robert Sala, he said

1213
00:56:52,746 --> 00:56:56,426
Speaker 1: they had only four active dressed cornerbacks for this game

1214
00:56:56,466 --> 00:56:59,106
Speaker 1: against an Eagles offense that had been lighting up the league.

1215
00:56:59,306 --> 00:57:02,146
Speaker 1: They go into battle and they find a way. Both

1216
00:57:02,146 --> 00:57:06,226
Speaker 1: Williams Brothers, Quincy and Quinn fantastic. CJ. Mosley all over

1217
00:57:06,226 --> 00:57:08,786
Speaker 1: the field, Jermaine Johnson looking like a first round pick.

1218
00:57:09,146 --> 00:57:14,306
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrich, the New York Jets defense for

1219
00:57:14,506 --> 00:57:17,506
Speaker 1: finding a way to get the key turnovers when needed,

1220
00:57:18,106 --> 00:57:21,466
Speaker 1: intercepting Jalen Hurts three times and giving the Jets just

1221
00:57:21,626 --> 00:57:25,066
Speaker 1: enough chance to go and get that win Sunday against

1222
00:57:25,066 --> 00:57:29,586
Speaker 1: the Eagles. They are the recipients of the Delivering Results

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00:57:29,626 --> 00:57:33,666
Speaker 1: Award presented by Uber Eats that was Delivering Results presented

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00:57:33,706 --> 00:57:37,346
Speaker 1: by Iberts, where you can get almost almost anything the

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Speaker 1: official I'm the Man delivery partner of the NFL. Go

1226
00:57:41,386 --> 00:57:47,586
Speaker 1: ahead and order now, Aaron, set your DVR. October twenty fifth,

1227
00:57:47,746 --> 00:57:52,826
Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern Celebrity Jeopardy My ass versus Mira Sorvino's

1228
00:57:52,946 --> 00:57:56,746
Speaker 1: ass versus Adam Rodriguez's Ass. I just wanted to curse

1229
00:57:56,746 --> 00:57:59,146
Speaker 1: on this podcast and get you guys fired up. A

1230
00:57:59,186 --> 00:58:02,666
Speaker 1: great episode as always, Aeron, please root me on.

1231
00:58:03,506 --> 00:58:07,346
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm gonna have a print out of state capitals, geometry,

1232
00:58:07,946 --> 00:58:11,066
Speaker 2: cloud formations, and roll.

1233
00:58:11,106 --> 00:58:16,466
Speaker 1: Napoleon, Yeah, Napoleon and Henry like a spoiler alert, not

1234
00:58:16,546 --> 00:58:19,226
Speaker 1: a single question about Waterloo. And I was ready, dude,

1235
00:58:19,866 --> 00:58:23,186
Speaker 1: I was so ready. This is another episode of the

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Speaker 1: season with Peter Schrager. Many thanks to you, Aaron wan Kaufman,

1237
00:58:26,626 --> 00:58:30,306
Speaker 1: my great producer, to Jason English, who is like the

1238
00:58:30,386 --> 00:58:33,226
Speaker 1: core four here, the three of us, every week we're together.

1239
00:58:33,306 --> 00:58:36,466
Speaker 1: We're doing this. I jokingly said that we're trying to

1240
00:58:36,506 --> 00:58:38,626
Speaker 1: get to Las Vegas and the super Bowl. Take the

1241
00:58:38,746 --> 00:58:40,786
Speaker 1: jokingly aside. If we want to get a go fun

1242
00:58:40,906 --> 00:58:42,906
Speaker 1: me prage, we need to get to super Bowl. Let's

1243
00:58:42,946 --> 00:58:45,466
Speaker 1: go for it. Let's make it happen. Let's bring this

1244
00:58:45,586 --> 00:58:46,986
Speaker 1: thing on the road. Let's see what we can do.

1245
00:58:47,786 --> 00:58:51,426
Speaker 1: Meredith Batton who stopped by today, she's our mastermind out

1246
00:58:51,466 --> 00:58:54,746
Speaker 1: in La a Michigan alum, and she got to go

1247
00:58:54,946 --> 00:58:58,266
Speaker 1: to see her Wolverines kick Indiana's asked this weekend and

1248
00:58:58,346 --> 00:59:01,026
Speaker 1: that was cool for her to everyone in the audience.

1249
00:59:01,386 --> 00:59:05,066
Speaker 1: So appreciate you guys listening. Tell your friends and Bengals fans.

1250
00:59:05,066 --> 00:59:23,786
Speaker 1: If this is the first time tuning in, Welcome the

1251
00:59:23,946 --> 00:59:26,946
Speaker 1: season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL

1252
00:59:27,066 --> 00:59:30,826
Speaker 1: and partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.