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Speaker 1: Jeff Chiliac, aka the Mayor of Bearsville, and his sidekick
Speaker 1: Tom the Surfmaster Thayer.
Speaker 3: Well, we're inching towards Thursday's first round of the NFL Draft,
Speaker 3: and with four picks in the top sweventy five, the
Speaker 3: Bears poise to make some noise. I keep saying that
Speaker 3: every off season, but it's true. It's the case. Welcome
Speaker 3: to Bears Weekly out of ESPN one thousand of the
Speaker 3: Bears Ready Network with Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom
Speaker 3: Bher Jeff Joniac joined by former Bears quarterback Jim Miller
Speaker 3: hod off his show on SyRI XMNFL Radio. I'm Jeff
Speaker 3: Joniyac coming up in the program. We're joined by Bears
Speaker 3: defensive passing game coordinator and defensive back coach Al Harris.
Speaker 3: To sit down Tom and I did with the former
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packer defensive back former ego, and then we
Speaker 3: go back fifty years ago to the nineteen seventy five draft,
Speaker 3: believe it or not, fifty years when the Bears drafted
Speaker 3: Walter Payton fourth overall. He shared the backfield with our
Speaker 3: guest rolland Harper. They were a one to two punch
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy five and beyond damn brillly Jordan tread
Speaker 3: Up and in the ESPN studio, Jack McGrath. Our producers,
Speaker 3: the executive producer of the Bears Reading Network is Eric Ostrowski.
Speaker 3: Good evening one, and I'm gonna start with Jim. When
Speaker 3: you go to Green Bay.
Speaker 4: I will leave Wednesday night. Yeah, so I know a
Speaker 4: lot of people have already arrived there. It's you know,
Speaker 4: it's pretty funny. I got a call today on the
Speaker 4: show that they're making sure that the water sanitation works
Speaker 4: for everybody, because even on a game day in Green
Speaker 4: Bay takes three days to clean out for eighty thousand people.
Speaker 4: So they're trying to do all the logistics when about
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand people show up for the
Speaker 4: NFL Draft, So just to make sure it's sanitary in
Speaker 4: Green Bay, believe it now?
Speaker 3: Do you want to think two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: fit in Green Bay for this.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of odd though, because the population of
Speaker 5: Green Bay is significantly less than wherever the draft has
Speaker 5: been held up unto this point. And then you think
Speaker 5: of the accommodations in the Green Bay and the surrounding
Speaker 5: Green Bay area, where are they going to put them all?
Speaker 5: So I'm actually interested to see how this whole three
Speaker 5: day draft process in Green Bay, Wisconsin is going to
Speaker 5: work itself out.
Speaker 6: But I will say I do get inspired when they
Speaker 6: have the commercial of the character.
Speaker 5: Playing Vince Lombardi talking about the importance of life in
Speaker 5: the NFL in what it should mean to every one
Speaker 5: of these guys, and because it kind of brings you
Speaker 5: back to a time way before any of us were
Speaker 5: around the NFL. But you know, Green Bay is still
Speaker 5: a place that you know, a lot of people know.
Speaker 5: It's one of the originations of the whole NFL along
Speaker 5: with but no bigger than Chicago. But I'm interested to
Speaker 5: see how it all goes goes.
Speaker 3: Together exactly no bigger than Chicago. And you know, both
Speaker 3: TV guys have been monitoring what's been going on, checking
Speaker 3: your sources, looking at the tom you got any clarity
Speaker 3: at number ten.
Speaker 6: No, I have none.
Speaker 5: It's the most unpredictable draft in the history of drafts
Speaker 5: that we've been following, that I've been following as an adult,
Speaker 5: and so I don't think if you sit there and
Speaker 5: I'll go I know exactly what the Bears are going
Speaker 5: to do at number ten. No, you don't, because I've
Speaker 5: read thirty drafts and there's sixteen different choices at number ten.
Speaker 5: So I don't think anybody knows exactly what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: And I'm not so sure cam Ward would be going
Speaker 5: number one if there was another a more competitive quarterback
Speaker 5: outdoor out there that would go toe to toe with them.
Speaker 3: Jim, you're on board with that, thinking.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm with Tom. I think you know what's interesting
Speaker 4: is how running backs have been devalued over the years,
Speaker 4: and then Saquan has the record year that he has
Speaker 4: last year for the Philadelphia Eagles, and all you hear
Speaker 4: about is running backs going into this draft. Denver Sean
Speaker 4: Payton basically comes out and says they're going to draft
Speaker 4: a running back. Nick Cassario, the general managers of the
Speaker 4: Houston Texans, we need more speed at running back. Genty
Speaker 4: has been mocked to the Bears. How many times? How
Speaker 4: many times has the Boise State running back been mocked
Speaker 4: to the Bears because of Ben Johnson in the success
Speaker 4: of Montgomery and Gibbs up there in Detroit. So it
Speaker 4: seems like running backs are now taking the stage and
Speaker 4: probably only two were going to be drafted in the
Speaker 4: first round in my mind, but as the draft rolls along,
Speaker 4: a lot of running backs are going to be drafted.
Speaker 5: Jim, we talked about Walter Payton being drafted fifty years
Speaker 5: ago today Jackson State. You know, you think of the
Speaker 5: comparative college and college conferences of where Boise stayed at
Speaker 5: and where Jackson was state. Jackson State was back fifty
Speaker 5: years ago. So it's amazing that the Bears had the
Speaker 5: foresight to realize that Walter Payton could come and be
Speaker 5: one of the greatest running backs in the history of
Speaker 5: the NFL. And to me, uh, you know, Ashton's got
Speaker 5: a you know, walk with that same confidence that he
Speaker 5: walks around with and sending that letter to all the gms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even Adam Schefter's out there saying now
Speaker 3: some things that you know, there's hope in the building
Speaker 3: that that Ashton gent would fall and all that. But
Speaker 3: you know, as we know, uh and I heard Daniel
Speaker 3: Jeremiah I think on Serious XM today. You know, he's
Speaker 3: just he's putting together his final one fifter he did,
Speaker 3: he dropped it. He's got to do the mock draft
Speaker 3: and he goes Listen, nobody's telling you anything that's any
Speaker 3: truthful this to it. You know, it's just it's it's
Speaker 3: agent talk, it's wishful thinking. It's maybe he's in wannabe.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I'd like it. Back in the day,
Speaker 3: I I wanted to know, I dig I want to know.
Speaker 3: I'd like things to be like Christmas morning. Let me
Speaker 3: find out. Let me be on the edge of my
Speaker 3: seat sitting there at Soldier Field at our middle light
Speaker 3: draft party. And Okay, with the tenth pick of the
Speaker 3: NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select, and we're either going
Speaker 3: crazier like wait what how?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 3: What we traded it? What we're going up down? That's
Speaker 3: the joy of the draft. It's that that adrenaline rush.
Speaker 3: I know I don't back in the day. You know,
Speaker 3: there's there's young folks out there that don't realize this.
Speaker 3: Guys were signed weeks in advance. I mean, they they
Speaker 3: were done. It was done. Deal, like you knew who
Speaker 3: you were drafted, they had signed him before you. Some
Speaker 3: some teams wouldn't draft you unless you signed Gret right.
Speaker 4: Well, especially now how the CBA has changed everything. I mean, uh,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of the last quarterback, Oh, Sam Bradford.
Speaker 4: Sam Bradford was the last quarterback drafted under the previous CBA,
Speaker 4: and if you remember, all the veterans were mad because
Speaker 4: he literally made more money without taking an NFL snap,
Speaker 4: like say, than Matthew Stafford, the starter for the Detroit
Speaker 4: Lions at that point. And you know a lot of
Speaker 4: people just thought it was wrong, and you're right. A
Speaker 4: signability was part of it because think about Mario Williams
Speaker 4: got drafted by Houston and they were gonna take Reggie Bush,
Speaker 4: but Reggie Bush was not gonna sign with the Houston Texas.
Speaker 4: So they said, well, hey, we can sign Mario Williams,
Speaker 4: so we'll just draft the defensive end is what they did.
Speaker 4: And now now it's not that that way. So what
Speaker 4: you're drafting, you're gonna slotted, it slated and it's pretty
Speaker 4: much what you're gonna get. But you don't know now
Speaker 4: until after the draft because signability is no longer an issue.
Speaker 3: You know, we know all about signability.
Speaker 5: So I remember when stan Thomas was drafted the first
Speaker 5: round out of University of Texas offensive tackle and we're
Speaker 5: getting ready to play our first preseason game together and
Speaker 5: he was gonna start because Keith van Horn was holding out,
Speaker 5: and stan Thomas asked me, he goes, does it make
Speaker 5: you mad that I'm making six hundred and seventy five
Speaker 5: thousand this year and you're making one hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: before kickoff?
Speaker 3: With a straight face or just to be an irritant, no,
Speaker 3: with a straight face.
Speaker 5: And you know, he was just a young kid at
Speaker 5: the time, and I kind of.
Speaker 3: You took it out on the guy you were blocking
Speaker 3: because that would have made my blood goal, heywire.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But you know, again, that's just part of it.
Speaker 5: You know, when you think about some of the contracts
Speaker 5: in the Sam Bradford deal and how much that was,
Speaker 5: they talked about how much that he was gonna make
Speaker 5: and how much some of the other quarterbacks weren't making
Speaker 5: at the time.
Speaker 6: It was, you know, just just part of the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the game, I mean, and all this
Speaker 3: running back talk is listen. If you if you're if
Speaker 3: you're a good player and you're gonna make my team better,
Speaker 3: I can use you. So I don't care what round
Speaker 3: I get you in. But it's interesting because obviously it's changed,
Speaker 3: and with the era of the passing game, you're looking
Speaker 3: at things that go beyond just the raw talent to
Speaker 3: run of the football. And that's how that's why some
Speaker 3: of these guys have been devalued. I guess over time
Speaker 3: because the balls in the air more. But you know,
Speaker 3: pass protecting and receiving skills are her essential and so
Speaker 3: you're looking at those kind of backs as well. So
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna talk to a former Bears running
Speaker 3: back when we come back. As Tom indicated, and I
Speaker 3: suggest that it is the fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy five draft, not tonight. That draft was done in January,
Speaker 3: sixteen days after the Super Bowl in nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 3: and it was seventeen rounds. We'll talk on Roland Harper,
Speaker 3: who was a seventeenth round draft pick of the Chicago
Speaker 3: Bears and was a starter of the backfield with Walter
Speaker 3: Payton in nineteen seventy five with Bob Avelini at some
Speaker 3: point this season, the starting quarterback from that same draft.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it with Roland when we come back.
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Speaker 3: the draft on Thursday night. And I would love to
Speaker 3: have a Roland Harper Jersey. Roland Harper one of the
Speaker 3: nicest guys that's in the Bears family, and he's at events.
Speaker 3: We see him all the time out and about, always
Speaker 3: a smile on his face. Kind enough to join us.
Speaker 3: I reached out in what is the fiftieth year anniversary
Speaker 3: of the nineteen seventy five draft Roland Harper joining us
Speaker 3: on the phone, rolling how you doing this evening?
Speaker 7: I am blessed to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it, appreciate I can't wait to talk to you
Speaker 3: because this sparked my curiosity because NFL Films had something
Speaker 3: on the NFL network last week about the seventy five
Speaker 3: draft and Walter, and of course the focus was on
Speaker 3: Walter and Robert Brazil being from Jackson State and the
Speaker 3: two of them becoming Hall of famers. But you know
Speaker 3: you were in that draft as well, and once upon
Speaker 3: a time, I think people who are younger don't realize
Speaker 3: there were seventeen rounds of the draft. You were picked
Speaker 3: four twenty by the beloved Bears in nineteen seventy five
Speaker 3: that had a nice career here, and you remain in
Speaker 3: the top ten rushers of all time on the Bears
Speaker 3: rushing list, of course, with Walter Payton number one. Can
Speaker 3: you take us through that experience in nineteen seventy five
Speaker 3: and out of Louisiana Tech, waiting that long in that
Speaker 3: day to be drafted and then pairing up with the
Speaker 3: all time great running back.
Speaker 7: Well, one of the things I really realized at that
Speaker 7: point in time, I thought I was going to be
Speaker 7: a walk on somebody camp. They didn't know that, you know,
Speaker 7: seven ky round me had never dawned on me. But
Speaker 7: a friend of mine who happened to be a newsperson
Speaker 7: and Louisiana called me up and said, Bowman, you got drafted.
Speaker 7: I said, you got to be kidding me. He said,
Speaker 7: he got the Jaffins in the last round. I said, well, great,
Speaker 7: at least they recognized I have some talent, but not
Speaker 7: knowing that I was going to be paired with one
Speaker 7: of the greats, Walter being a seventeen round charist and
Speaker 7: he's been the first, you know. But it was God's
Speaker 7: state that we ended up together because the similarities and
Speaker 7: me he's in attack in the Chicago Bears at that
Speaker 7: time was basically simular. I block for a guy, but
Speaker 7: I number Charles clicked six McDaniels and I ran a
Speaker 7: little bit too, caught the passes and that kind of thing.
Speaker 7: So they realized that I had a little talent. And
Speaker 7: it was kind of one of those things. When Ed
Speaker 7: McCaskey was looking he had the last draft of every year,
Speaker 7: he put his eyes, put his hands over his eyes
Speaker 7: and ran down the board and stopped his finger and
Speaker 7: he says that that's the guy I want. Didn't know
Speaker 7: I was going to stay.
Speaker 6: Hey, Roland, how are you doing this tomp there? And
Speaker 6: it's great to talk to you.
Speaker 7: Hey, Roland, thanks so yeah.
Speaker 5: Well from being from Louisiana and then Walter being from Mississippi,
Speaker 5: did you know anything about him? Was there any like
Speaker 5: cross treads between you two that he was familiar of
Speaker 5: you or you familiar of him, or was it the
Speaker 5: first time meet and greet when you showed up to
Speaker 5: the Bears, that.
Speaker 7: Was the first time meeting Greek. Matter of fact, they
Speaker 7: had the highlights shams of him when we came in,
Speaker 7: and that was only the only highlights that they gave
Speaker 7: of him. And his running style and running at Jackson State,
Speaker 7: and I said, wow, what a running back. You know,
Speaker 7: remind me of a lot of guys that I've seen
Speaker 7: on Television Company before, especially Gail Fairs and the way
Speaker 7: he ran. But Walter had a little bit different running
Speaker 7: style than the Gail, but yet still something similar. But
Speaker 7: I knewed that I had a chance to make that team,
Speaker 7: thinking okay, how can I fit into this this this scenario,
Speaker 7: and of course Jack Party was the coach at that
Speaker 7: point in time, and I think he recognized my value
Speaker 7: and how I would fit into the offense once I
Speaker 7: threw my first block. I'm a veteran player.
Speaker 4: Miller, good to talk, Yeah, good to talk again? I
Speaker 4: mean good buddy. Uh, just that mentality, like you said,
Speaker 4: you know, you know, even this year's draft, I interview
Speaker 4: a lot of guys are like, you know, if they
Speaker 4: know they're not going to be a high draft pick
Speaker 4: and they think, you know six, look at Perty, he's
Speaker 4: a mister irrelevant. For god's sake, seventeen rounds, you're draft
Speaker 4: in the last round. But yeah, you had the mentality
Speaker 4: like I'm going to come in here and you know,
Speaker 4: act like I belong. You know, maybe this touch on
Speaker 4: that because, like you said, from your first block on
Speaker 4: you made it. Well, what do they always say, remove
Speaker 4: all doubt and there is no doubt. It sounds like
Speaker 4: you removed all doubt pretty early.
Speaker 7: I removed all doubts. The biggest thing that I had
Speaker 7: going for me is that my ability to be able
Speaker 7: to block anybody. Don't care who it was, how big
Speaker 7: he was, how small he was, whatever it is. My
Speaker 7: assignment was a blockie I was going to Blockie, period.
Speaker 7: I knew I had somebody in the backfield, and I'm
Speaker 7: a team player. I knew I had somebody in the
Speaker 7: backfield that I wanted to make sure that we as
Speaker 7: a team won. There's no ironte so you got to
Speaker 7: do your part. And that's that's the position that I took,
Speaker 7: that I got to do my part.
Speaker 3: Roland Harper, our guest here on ESPN one thousand of
Speaker 3: the Bears radio network, ran for nine hundred ninety two
Speaker 3: yards in nineteen seventy eight, the year Walter had thirteen
Speaker 3: ninety five? How bad did you want that fourth digit?
Speaker 7: I've ordered that eight yards as bad as I could
Speaker 7: get it. Upper upper management caught us called differently, So
Speaker 7: I'm not going to say why, but you can all imagine.
Speaker 7: And the thing of it is is that it's been
Speaker 7: the first in their history that the two backs in
Speaker 7: the same back that would have gotten the over at
Speaker 7: pouting guys rushing. But I just said, okay, if it's
Speaker 7: not God's will, then hey, it's okay. And I think
Speaker 7: that you know, we won a lot of games and
Speaker 7: Watcher Hall of Fame, so I think I did my.
Speaker 5: Job, you know, Roland when you when you think guys
Speaker 5: like Pete Johnson or Larry Zonka or John Riggins, the
Speaker 5: other great fullbacks in the history of the NFL, you know,
Speaker 5: the role of the full back back then when everything
Speaker 5: was mostly an eye formation quarterback under center. You you
Speaker 5: guys had a much bigger role in the success of
Speaker 5: the halfbacks of those of those days. And you know,
Speaker 5: can you talk a little bit about the stress in
Speaker 5: the of your importance in the role that you guys
Speaker 5: had in the overall success of offenses.
Speaker 7: Well, I can tell you this. I was not as
Speaker 7: big as those guys. Zonka right, which he was absolutely
Speaker 7: a horse. But the thing of it is that I
Speaker 7: could be both ways. I could play both ways. I
Speaker 7: could play fullback, I could play halfback. And at the
Speaker 7: beginning when Walter couldn't play, you remember he played in
Speaker 7: the All Star Game and got hurt so in the
Speaker 7: preseason and everything else. I was a major running back,
Speaker 7: one of the major running back and also the fullback,
Speaker 7: and I could take his positions running back as I
Speaker 7: did it in college as well. I could run the ball,
Speaker 7: and they found out in seventy eight give the ball
Speaker 7: he could run. Walton could block as well. So he
Speaker 7: and I were like bookends. When you've seen one, you
Speaker 7: see the other. When I had the block and knock
Speaker 7: somebody out of the way, Walter followed the same thing
Speaker 7: with me in following, and so it was one of
Speaker 7: those things where you couldn't just key on Walter, you
Speaker 7: had to watch me too. But it made it easier
Speaker 7: for Walter to be able to get those yards when
Speaker 7: you couldn't key on the two of us, especially when
Speaker 7: we were in a split backfield or a brown set.
Speaker 4: How much does it pain you, Walter? I mean, there's
Speaker 4: a few teams that still use twenty one personnel. They'll
Speaker 4: put fullback in there like you will, like say the
Speaker 4: forty nine ers they use you check or Baltimore with
Speaker 4: Patrick Ricard. And but now you know, you look at
Speaker 4: last year's Sakuon Barkley rushing for two thousand. He kind
Speaker 4: of put Philadelphia on his back all the way to
Speaker 4: the championship game. And you know, and why why do
Speaker 4: you think in your mind with all these young quarterbacks
Speaker 4: who are struggling, why teams don't run the ball more?
Speaker 7: Well, they're more into the pass. They're more into the pass,
Speaker 7: and they're more into you know, meeting a big offensive
Speaker 7: line to be able to block and give that pass.
Speaker 7: And they want more receivers, but you know, we usialize
Speaker 7: what we had. We had Me and Walton of course,
Speaker 7: the receivers that we had and tight ends that we had,
Speaker 7: we may do with what we had. Our line was
Speaker 7: not that big. I think Noah Jackson was probably the
Speaker 7: biggest guy on that line, two hundred and sixty five pounds,
Speaker 7: so you know nowadays are three hundred. Now I can
Speaker 7: tell you it is these guys running to day on
Speaker 7: my word, they are kind of remind me of Barry Sanders.
Speaker 7: You know, they're running and they're basically built almost the
Speaker 7: same as Barkley. Low centered gravity, quick, good teat movement
Speaker 7: and just give him a crease and then gone. So
Speaker 7: and Walter was the same one. You give him a
Speaker 7: crease pass the line and was gone. And our day
Speaker 7: a fullback led gave him that space to get past
Speaker 7: that secondary and it was gone. So a lot different.
Speaker 7: But if the day's society, they're bigger and faster.
Speaker 3: Roland Harper our guest. Final moments with the former Bears
Speaker 3: fullback who had a terrific career with the Chicago Bears
Speaker 3: and Walter Payton his running buddy back in those days.
Speaker 3: Did you know in your heart of hearts psych no
Speaker 3: one ever comes into the league knowing for sure they're
Speaker 3: going to be a Hall of Famer. But was that
Speaker 3: first season enough for you to know that, Okay, this
Speaker 3: guy's gonna have a long career and be a Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer And I'm happy to be a part of this.
Speaker 7: My dad was exactly my idea. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 7: a team player, and I knew if I did my
Speaker 7: job what I was supposed to do to break him.
Speaker 7: And after watching the pim of him in college, I
Speaker 7: knew he was going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7: I just knew that he was going to be up there,
Speaker 7: that you'd just give him after chance. His determination and
Speaker 7: run and drive was just that intest that it made
Speaker 7: me want to do that much more to make sure
Speaker 7: that he got that chance to break that line of streams,
Speaker 7: break the secondary and get into the end zone. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I knew he.
Speaker 5: Was Hey, Rowland, number thirty four, number thirty four, number
Speaker 5: thirty five. Was it just the number that the equipment
Speaker 5: manager gave you the day you showed up or was
Speaker 5: there that kind of a nice combo between you and Walter.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, it was the numbers that equipment Gate
Speaker 7: a guy gave me at that point in time. But
Speaker 7: it turned out to be a pretty good combination. Yes,
Speaker 7: thirty four had to follow thirty five, and thirty five
Speaker 7: and thirty four were bookends. When when you see one,
Speaker 7: you see me of it. You know that I'm going
Speaker 7: to block for him and he's going to run his
Speaker 7: tail off to get the gyardists that he needs or
Speaker 7: we need as a team. So it was a beautiful,
Speaker 7: beautiful combination and it happened at a wonderful time in
Speaker 7: our career.
Speaker 4: Well, did you know going into games, like just the
Speaker 4: amount of carries each of you were going to get,
Speaker 4: and how you were utilized, how he was utilized, and
Speaker 4: you know, just how you prepare, I guess more than anything,
Speaker 4: and just knowing you were going to have a big
Speaker 4: game because you were so good at it.
Speaker 7: They also coordinated at that point time, and you know,
Speaker 7: we watched him and we utilized what we knew that
Speaker 7: would work against teams. And the thing of it is
Speaker 7: is that I didn't I knew I wasn't going to
Speaker 7: be a major runner in any game. Also, well, although
Speaker 7: in the Tampa Bay game in nineteen seventy eight, that
Speaker 7: was very much planned, and it was it worked out
Speaker 7: such that, you know, I out rocks I out rushed
Speaker 7: Walter that one game. I think I had one hundred
Speaker 7: and twenty four to his one hundred and two something
Speaker 7: of that nature, and at the end of the game.
Speaker 7: So that was planned because of their defense and their
Speaker 7: style of chasing Walter. So and of course they asked
Speaker 7: me if I could run, I said, give me the ball.
Speaker 7: I kind of took that line from Jim Brown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good line to have. All right, Roll,
Speaker 3: we could talk to you a long time, a Piccolo
Speaker 3: Award winner back in that rookie year of nineteen seventy five. Tomorrow,
Speaker 3: the Bear's Piccolo Awards will be anounced. I assume you
Speaker 3: will be there.
Speaker 7: I will be there, Yes, I will.
Speaker 3: It's always good to get a handshake and a hug
Speaker 3: from you. Rolland Harper appreciate your time and wonderful trip
Speaker 3: down memory lane. Bears fans love this stuff. Thank you
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 6: Thank you Walter. Thank you are the one and only
Speaker 6: Roland Harper.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it so much.
Speaker 7: Appreciate you guys. God bless you. Thank you too.
Speaker 3: Okay, God bless you as well. All right, outstanding, rolland Harper.
Speaker 3: We'll touch more on this golden anniversary of that NFL
Speaker 3: draft because other great names were in that draft. The
Speaker 3: Bears netted nine starters out of that one, including Doug Plank,
Speaker 3: who was number two ninety one in the twelfth round.
Speaker 3: Despite only playing special teams at Ohio State, turned into
Speaker 3: quite the Bear, that's for sure. We'll continue when we
Speaker 3: come back. Al Harris, the Bears defensive back coach and
Speaker 3: passing game coordinator of the defensive side of the bab
Speaker 3: We'll join the program. This is Bears Weekly again the
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Speaker 3: one thousand of the Bears Radio Network with Tom Payer,
Speaker 3: Jeff Jonighah. Please to be joined by a member of
Speaker 3: the Bears coaching staff. Of note, we all know him,
Speaker 3: we all loved him, and maybe sometimes we didn't love
Speaker 3: you that much when he was playing with the Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers, but he's a Bear now. Al Harris, the
Speaker 3: Bears defensive passing game coordinator and secondary coach. Ol thanks
Speaker 3: for taking the time. How has it been, Thank you
Speaker 3: guys for having me.
Speaker 2: It's been great.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Ben's doing a really really good job of.
Speaker 8: Changing the culture, which is the most important part of it,
Speaker 8: I personally think, and he's doing a great job of
Speaker 8: doing that him and everybody on the staff of implementing
Speaker 8: the culture to the guys.
Speaker 3: How does one do that?
Speaker 8: You just preach what you believe, You stay on it,
Speaker 8: you keep a high standard, and that's what it is.
Speaker 2: The standard is the standard. You know.
Speaker 9: Well, I love ex players that become coaches because I
Speaker 9: think they're the most relatable guys to the players that
Speaker 9: they're coaching. But something that interests me in your journey
Speaker 9: as a player. So you go to Tampa Bay, spend
Speaker 9: a year on a practice squad, and then you get
Speaker 9: picked up by the Philadelphia Eagles. So what changed for
Speaker 9: you in that short time with Tampa and then you
Speaker 9: know your career picked up in Philly.
Speaker 8: Well, I think I just wasn't a fit for the
Speaker 8: scheme in Tampa. You know, I think when I went
Speaker 8: to Philly, they kind of use me more of what
Speaker 8: I did. The scheme was more built for what I
Speaker 8: did in Tampa, not really a cover two corner. So
Speaker 8: that's probably where I would say the biggest change was that.
Speaker 2: And God just had his hand on me.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you have experienced almost every aspect
Speaker 3: of what a pro is. Everybody doesn't have to pedigree
Speaker 3: to be a first round pick. Everybody's not a first
Speaker 3: round pick, but undrafted, small school, waived, traded, become a packer,
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, a great fifteen year career, All Pro,
Speaker 3: and then move into coaching. You've had so many touch points.
Speaker 3: It has to have shaped you in a very particular
Speaker 3: way to be a coach and spread your knowledge and
Speaker 3: style to these current day players.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's been great. It's been a great journey. You know.
Speaker 8: I talked to my dad, my wife and we laugh
Speaker 8: at times that you know, this is the only job
Speaker 8: I've really ever had in the NFL since twenty two,
Speaker 8: twenty three years old, and here I'm now, I'm fifty,
Speaker 8: So it's been great. I've seen the game change, seen
Speaker 8: the trends in the game changes from offensive trends defensive trends.
Speaker 2: So you know, I've seen it a lot.
Speaker 8: And that's exactly what I do is just share what
Speaker 8: I've seen, what I've learned over the years with the guys.
Speaker 2: And you know, been getting pretty good response.
Speaker 9: You know, al being an next offensive lineman, every single
Speaker 9: offensive lineman amongk on a team, there's something different about
Speaker 9: each one of us. When you're looking at the defensive
Speaker 9: backs of your coaching, is there something consistent in the
Speaker 9: coaching to every one of them or is there something
Speaker 9: that you have to be relatable to each one If
Speaker 9: there's something different between their size, shape, footwork, mental and
Speaker 9: physical abilities, well.
Speaker 8: Deal's there will always be something a little different in
Speaker 8: each guy. But my style, like everybody has scheme, everybody
Speaker 8: has good scheme. You know, every single team in the
Speaker 8: NFL have scheme. That's good scheme. I really really harp
Speaker 8: on the fundamentals, the fundamentals of the position and getting
Speaker 8: the guys to move the way that I need them
Speaker 8: to move, and most importantly the mindset. You know, you
Speaker 8: got to keep guys extremely confident, especially playing in the secondary.
Speaker 8: To play this type of ball that we want to play,
Speaker 8: you know, guys have to be have to be.
Speaker 2: Really, really confident in what they do.
Speaker 8: So I think the mindset is huge and not allowing
Speaker 8: them to think, because some guys just think, Okay, we've
Speaker 8: got a good scheme that wins the game. No, everybody
Speaker 8: has good scheme, But how are you producing? How are
Speaker 8: you moving? How are you executing that scheme? You know
Speaker 8: is the key. And once you kind of get them
Speaker 8: to understand those things, I think, you know, you couldn't agree.
Speaker 9: When you look at an opponent's offense, do you go
Speaker 9: quarterback to receivers or do you go receivers to quarterback.
Speaker 8: I go quarterback to receivers. I'd love to tell my guys,
Speaker 8: you know, we're never covering the receiver.
Speaker 2: We're never covering the receiver, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: There'll be something that he'll do that will allow us
Speaker 8: to kind of get a heads up on what he's
Speaker 8: gonna do.
Speaker 2: But the quarterback, you know, that's the guy.
Speaker 8: That's the guy that makes it run, that's the guy
Speaker 8: you got to make play post snap. That's the guy
Speaker 8: you got a fool that's the guy you gotta kind
Speaker 8: of beat him to the punch.
Speaker 3: Was a great player, twenty one interceptions, Pro Bowls, All
Speaker 3: Pro Al. Harris our guest here on Bears Weekly at
Speaker 3: ESPN one thousand, the Bears Readio Network with Jeff and Tom. So,
Speaker 3: let's take a look at what you got to work
Speaker 3: with here and what kind of style defense are we
Speaker 3: looking at. We know Dennis Allen loves to have pressure
Speaker 3: from the back end. I'm a big corner blitz guy.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you did plenty of that in your career
Speaker 3: as well. But we got a very confident Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: type talent and Jalen Johnson, we got a freshly minted
Speaker 3: Nickel and Kyler Gordon. We've got loads of talent, and
Speaker 3: Tyreek Stevenson and Terrell Smith. We got Jakwan Brisker at safety,
Speaker 3: the veteran Kevin Byron and others that are joining the mix.
Speaker 3: We always felt that the heartbeat of the team until
Speaker 3: further notice from last season to the end of the
Speaker 3: season was the secondary, and maybe it's still that way.
Speaker 3: But what do you got to work with here?
Speaker 2: Well, I think we got a good group of guys.
Speaker 8: We'll add in some guys, whether it be draft, whether
Speaker 8: it be free agency, and we'll add some guys, but
Speaker 8: I do I think we got a good group of guys.
Speaker 8: And you know, I truly believe you know that you
Speaker 8: win and lose games through the secondary. So if you
Speaker 8: winning games, you're winning games through the secondary. If you
Speaker 8: lose games, you're losing games through the secondary because teams
Speaker 8: cannot score unless they go through the secondary. So I
Speaker 8: think we have the guys to do what we need
Speaker 8: to do to play the style of defense that we
Speaker 8: need to play.
Speaker 2: So I think we got a good group.
Speaker 9: You know, when you think of this new formula that
Speaker 9: Dennis Allen's putting together for the Chicago Bears and the
Speaker 9: history of Chicago Bears defense, is there a small snippet
Speaker 9: of his philosophical approach that he has from front to back.
Speaker 8: I'll let you guy, I'll let you guys see it.
Speaker 8: But I think DA does a really really great job
Speaker 8: man of implementing Cole. He's a culture guy. Also, we
Speaker 8: were kind of mentor or not kind of. We were
Speaker 8: mentored by the same guy as far as secondary and
Speaker 8: as Emmitt Thomas, So a lot of things that we
Speaker 8: already see the same. But I think his style of
Speaker 8: defense speaks for itself. As track worker, He's been a
Speaker 8: part of some really, really good defensive teams and we're
Speaker 8: just here to continue to train.
Speaker 3: You know, when you became a coach, and I don't
Speaker 3: know if that was ever something you really wanted to
Speaker 3: do or it just happened that way. And you can
Speaker 3: tell us that what part of coaching, especially now is
Speaker 3: being an evaluator as well? Was there a ramp up
Speaker 3: for you to be at evaluate? Do you do you
Speaker 3: feel you had to shine that up a little bit
Speaker 3: or are you a natural evaluator of talent in the secondary?
Speaker 8: I think I had to shine it up a little
Speaker 8: bit just to I think that's a skill set in
Speaker 8: his own. So, you know, just looking at some of
Speaker 8: the things that I think make a good secondary player,
Speaker 8: and then hearing from the scouts, hearing from other coaches, coordinators,
Speaker 8: you know what they think and you kind of merge
Speaker 8: them together to come up with it. But I think
Speaker 8: for me personally, there's been something that I had to
Speaker 8: shine up.
Speaker 2: Man, I think I got a pretty decent eye right now.
Speaker 9: Indoor outdoor guy, you know, because you know, you think
Speaker 9: of Ben Johnson, He's come from Detroit where they play
Speaker 9: a lot of their games indoor. You played in Lambeau,
Speaker 9: you played in Philly, you play, and now you're going
Speaker 9: to be coaching in Chicago. Is there a different philosophical
Speaker 9: approach to coaching indoor football as opposed to outdoor football.
Speaker 8: It really doesn't matter as long as long as we
Speaker 8: are intercepting the football indoor outdoor.
Speaker 2: I'm good. Now.
Speaker 3: So many things you've done well with players from Trevon Diggs,
Speaker 3: the drom Bland, Jordan Lewis, others throughout the course of
Speaker 3: your career. How would you describe I know you touched
Speaker 3: on it briefly, but your coaching style. Because if I
Speaker 3: just shut my eyes and envision what Al Harris is
Speaker 3: as a coach, I got to go back to Al
Speaker 3: Harris as a player. So I'm thinking fiery, you know,
Speaker 3: man up on a guy. You did this the long
Speaker 3: way to become a star in this league. You've done
Speaker 3: it the hard way as well. Coaching, how do you
Speaker 3: approach today's men?
Speaker 8: Well, that's exactly how I approach it. I approach and
Speaker 8: coach the man first. That way I know that the
Speaker 8: player will follow. Never try to get to the player.
Speaker 8: I try to always try to get to the man first.
Speaker 8: That way, you never if you take that approach. Well,
Speaker 8: me personally, I've always taken that. I've never had a
Speaker 8: problem with the player following because I already have the man.
Speaker 8: You know, these guys, it's not college anymore. They're grown men,
Speaker 8: some with kids, some with wives, fiance's girlfriends, whatever. But
Speaker 8: they have someone at home waiting on them to get home,
Speaker 8: relying on them. So you know, we just got to
Speaker 8: make sure that we keep that to where we grab
Speaker 8: the man so he knows. Okay, you know you're concerned
Speaker 8: about him as a man now when you're teaching them
Speaker 8: this stuff. As far as football is concerned to the player,
Speaker 8: it just comes natural to Okay, I know, coach got
Speaker 8: my best interest in mine.
Speaker 2: Listen to what he got to say.
Speaker 3: We like what you're like what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: We appreciate time. Can't wait to see you on the
Speaker 3: practice field, especially when training camp starts, and work your magic.
Speaker 3: It's going to be fun. Thank you so much, y'all.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciated. ESPN one thousand Pairs Weekly continues after
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Speaker 1: Is Bears Weekly with the Voice of the Bears for
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Speaker 2: Jeff Chef on the Bears Radio Network.
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Speaker 3: Weekly on a Monday night version Draft on Thursday. So
Speaker 3: a couple of cleanups on these two interviews, but two
Speaker 3: interesting angles. Al Harris Jimmy's. I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: had a chance to interview Al Harris over the years
Speaker 3: as a player or as a coach, but I love
Speaker 3: his direct approach and I think the players are gonna
Speaker 3: love it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One, he was a really real smart player. I played
Speaker 4: against him. I remember he had a key interception in
Speaker 4: a game we lost up there in Green Bay's very
Speaker 4: long corner. But very heady, very smart with how he
Speaker 4: played or disguised as coverages. He'd he'd line up in
Speaker 4: press and you think it's press man, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: it's pressed bail. And just how he turned his hips,
Speaker 4: how he looked in at the quarterback. He'd make you
Speaker 4: think its zone and it was it was man, you know.
Speaker 4: So he was he was a very heady football player,
Speaker 4: and so I do think with his experience and now,
Speaker 4: like what he said, to get to know the man,
Speaker 4: I think everybody has their different go buttons. You know,
Speaker 4: how Tom Thayer, what motivates Tom Thayer is different than
Speaker 4: Jim Miller, you know, and every player has their their
Speaker 4: go buttons, and how you get to know a person,
Speaker 4: what they react to, what gets them excited, what doesn't
Speaker 4: motivate them. I think all those things are important because
Speaker 4: every player is different and really what motivates them to
Speaker 4: be the best at that you can make them be
Speaker 4: or want them to be as a coach. They may
Speaker 4: have their own personal desires as a player, and and
Speaker 4: you as a coach got to know the man where
Speaker 4: maybe I can push this player a little bit further
Speaker 4: because I think he's capable of more. And I do
Speaker 4: think when coaches can tap into that, that's where you
Speaker 4: really can get the most out of a player. It's
Speaker 4: really how you motivate a player, you know.
Speaker 5: One thing he talked about was his mentor being Emmitt Thomas,
Speaker 5: and I think when you think about he and Dennis
Speaker 5: Allen being kind of mentored by the same person, the
Speaker 5: same philosophical belief in defensive football.
Speaker 6: I think that's important too.
Speaker 5: But I love Al Harris's approach to the way he
Speaker 5: treats the person before he treats the football player. And
Speaker 5: I think it's important to get the best out of
Speaker 5: them because one thing about assistant players they assistant are players.
Speaker 5: They need to know the coaches care about them to
Speaker 5: get the best out.
Speaker 6: Of them, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, when a new coach comes in, I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's he gonna pull out of me that maybe I
Speaker 3: didn't know I had in me? Or how's he gonna
Speaker 3: make me? What tool is he gonna sharpen for me?
Speaker 3: You know, that's what I would look at if I
Speaker 3: was a player.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget ed donatll what he was talking about.
Speaker 4: Prince Kamara, Prince of Mukamar, when he arrived with the Bears,
Speaker 4: he dropped like three or four interceptions during camp, and
Speaker 4: Ed Donnatel went up to him and said, uh, you
Speaker 4: know what, let's go work on you know, catching a
Speaker 4: football a little bit. Has anybody ever taught you how
Speaker 4: to catch a ball? And Prince said, no, he goes,
Speaker 4: I never learned how to catch And so again it
Speaker 4: was everywhere he had been like with the giants. Everybody
Speaker 4: just assumed, you know, growing up, you know you go
Speaker 4: out in your backyard, you play catch with your friends,
Speaker 4: and you know, you just you kind of learn how
Speaker 4: to do it. And he had never learned how to
Speaker 4: do it. And Ed Dontel pulled him aside. You know,
Speaker 4: if it's above your chest or above you know, you
Speaker 4: put your thumbs together. When it's below your waist, you
Speaker 4: put your pinkies together. And that year, Prince of Ukamara
Speaker 4: had his most interceptions. He had four interceptions in a
Speaker 4: year for the Bears, just because the coach reached out
Speaker 4: to him and then motivated the player. And then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, Prince of mu Tomorrow is after practice
Speaker 4: every day catching balls on the judge machine because he
Speaker 4: wanted to have his best year of getting interceptions. And
Speaker 4: I put them aside. At the end of the year,
Speaker 4: I said, well, you know, look at all those interceptions
Speaker 4: you got this year. And he said, yeah, he said,
Speaker 4: it's all because Ed Dontel, you know, got to know me,
Speaker 4: got to know who I am. You know, worked with
Speaker 4: me as a player, and he made me better. He
Speaker 4: made me better as as a player. And and players
Speaker 4: they're always they'll receive anything. If they if they're going
Speaker 4: to get better, they will listen to you once you
Speaker 4: make them a better player.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of the video when Jeff was trying
Speaker 5: to catch punts on the practice field.
Speaker 6: No, he couldn't do it. I know, on the practice field.
Speaker 6: Indoors are outdoors.
Speaker 5: It's still a practice field, and he couldn't catch them.
Speaker 5: And I think if they said pinkies or thumbs, he
Speaker 5: still couldn't catch you.
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't. I was in I was in wing
Speaker 3: tips in a suit, catching Brad Maynard bombs that were
Speaker 3: spiraling away from me so fast. I was under it
Speaker 3: and it wound up, you know, ten yards away from me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was that was a treat.
Speaker 6: All right. Well, you guys have a you're very uncoachable.
Speaker 3: That is not true. That's not true.
Speaker 6: That is a quote from the great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is. That is true.
Speaker 2: He did he did.
Speaker 3: He did say that because I wouldn't listen to him
Speaker 3: in the weight room. Yep, you're right about that. That's
Speaker 3: why I look like the way I do, and that's
Speaker 3: the way you look like the way you do. A
Speaker 3: We got to take a break. One final segment'll get
Speaker 3: their thoughts as we ramp up to the draft. What
Speaker 3: they'd like to see happen on Thursday night from a
Speaker 3: Bear's perspective here on Bears Weekly. And he has been
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Speaker 3: Jim Miller with us final segment before we wrap things
Speaker 3: up and handed over to Blacken of Dalla. I saw
Speaker 3: something today that was the most unique selection of draft
Speaker 3: picks that I have ever seen. And maybe it's been
Speaker 3: done before. Jim Miller you would know, but we all.
Speaker 3: I've always appreciated respected the work of Rick Goslin, former
Speaker 3: Dallas Morning News. He was a draft nick. I remember
Speaker 3: every time he was at a combine, he had a notebook.
Speaker 3: It was he was way ahead of his time on
Speaker 3: being prepared to interview just about everybody. Do you know
Speaker 3: what he did today? What have you heard about this?
Speaker 3: He took the two there's two hundred and sixty five
Speaker 3: draft picks this year with comp picks or whatever. He
Speaker 3: took the all time, in his opinion, the all time
Speaker 3: best picks at each number one through two sixty five,
Speaker 3: which is a lot of work number one, but it's
Speaker 3: this is what he came up with. Bears perspective had
Speaker 3: Dick Buckets number three, pick third sixty five. Walter was
Speaker 3: a runner up to mean Joe Green at number four,
Speaker 3: Doug Atkins a runner up at eleven, to Paul Warfield,
Speaker 3: Singletary at number thirty eight and eighty one, Stan Jones
Speaker 3: at fifty four, in fifty three, Devin Hester fifty seven,
Speaker 3: Tom Fair fifty seven in two thousand and six, and
Speaker 3: Lance Briggs is the all time number sixty eight in
Speaker 3: two thousand and three, ahead of Jack del Rio in
Speaker 3: nineteen eight. I find this fascinating. I don't know why
Speaker 3: I found it fascinating, and other Bears nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 3: Todd Perry number ninety seven, Bears Guard Kevin Butler a
Speaker 3: runner up in eighty five to number one oh five
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, Harry Carson of the Giants, Alan Ellis
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three, Bears pick at one oh seven, Eddie
Speaker 3: Jackson at one twelve, George Blanda, Yes, he was a
Speaker 3: Bears draft pick one nineteen and nineteen forty nine. Johnny
Speaker 3: Morris won thirty seven, the aforementioned Al Harris, whom we
Speaker 3: spoke to number one sixty nine, Richard Dennett two three,
Speaker 3: Mark Boards at two nineteen, and Charles Leno at two
Speaker 3: forty six. Those are Bears drafted in the in the
Speaker 3: mock draft of the greatest players of all time. I
Speaker 3: find it interesting, all right, we got less than three
Speaker 3: minutes to go. What do you want to come away
Speaker 3: with on Thursday night? And if you want to go
Speaker 3: a little brit broader because we got to keep it tight.
Speaker 3: But what do you want to come away with in
Speaker 3: the first four picks that are going to mount to
Speaker 3: the top step top seventy five pick? Sureld they not
Speaker 3: trade down or up? What do you want to what
Speaker 3: do you have to come away with?
Speaker 5: I just want players at their position. Okay, if you're
Speaker 5: a left tackle, then be a left tackle. Running back,
Speaker 5: be a running back tight end, be a tight end, YEP.
Speaker 4: At those positions, O line with the edge rusher that
Speaker 4: we've talked about, I think another receiver. Everybody seems to
Speaker 4: be enthralled with running back because it's such a good
Speaker 4: draft or running backs, so maybe even a running back.
Speaker 4: From that standpoint, I would think you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Get some work course backs in this draft somewhere.
Speaker 4: You know, there are great backs in this draft.
Speaker 3: There really are. You know. It's just that that's a
Speaker 3: position I spent a ton of time on and and
Speaker 3: you you start falling in love with just about everybody
Speaker 3: because you hear some traits. You put on a little
Speaker 3: bit of highlights. Don't have the college tape, so I
Speaker 3: can't see that, but it really is. It's gonna it's
Speaker 3: gotta be a lot of fun. You know, how about this?
Speaker 3: I just maybe just in Jim, you touched on wide receiver.
Speaker 3: You know we've heard the tight end talk. Running back
Speaker 3: one major weapon in one of those four picks. An
Speaker 3: offensive weapon, a guy who's gonna destroy the quarterback one
Speaker 3: way or another on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 3: and of course an offensive line that that's what I
Speaker 3: feel would be a home run. Draft players aside home
Speaker 3: run draft? Did you get some of those guys and
Speaker 3: there are three of them are starters on day one?
Speaker 3: How about that? Or competing to be a starter on
Speaker 3: day one? They're not going to be handed anything at
Speaker 3: this coaching staff, that's for sure. I hope that that
Speaker 3: sings right to you. And then lastly, Jim, you were
Speaker 3: a Senior Bowl guy. Red Grange was on the panel
Speaker 3: that voted Steve Bartkowski the MVP and the overall number
Speaker 3: one pick in that nineteen seventy five draft. And I
Speaker 3: didn't know they did this back and they they gave
Speaker 3: him a nineteen seventy five Dodge Charger. Were they giving
Speaker 3: gifts away?
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I mean, yeah, I love Bartkowski.
Speaker 4: I mean the guy was throwing to billy white shoes Johnson.
Speaker 4: Did they throwing a pair of white shoes too? I mean,
Speaker 4: you gotta drive your car like that.
Speaker 5: He was the quarterback in Atlanta for my brother in law,
Speaker 5: John Scully, who was the left guard.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we gotta go story times overnight Sea
Speaker 3: on draft night. Jim, have a good time in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Bring us some winners, all right? All right? Sounds good?
Speaker 6: Go Bear.
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