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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday. I'm more of a Michael Olawa Candy than

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Speaker 1: an Anthony Bennett, but welcome to the program. NBA Draft

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Speaker 1: coming up tonight. We got that covered a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on Chris Mannocks from Sports Illustrated. He'll join US

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Speaker 1: Indiana head football coach Tom Allen will stop by. They

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Speaker 1: got a big game with the Ohio State Buckeyes this weekend,

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Speaker 1: twenty one point underdogs. Phone calls are always welcome, so

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Speaker 1: or the emails or the tweets. We have a stat

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Speaker 1: of the day, Play of the day. McLevin will do

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Speaker 1: the honors with a poll question coming up. Sometimes the

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Speaker 1: NBA Draft is really easy. You just go, we'll take

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, or the Magic say we'll take Shaquille O'Neal,

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Speaker 1: or the Spurs say we'll take Tim Duncan. Tonight, not

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Speaker 1: that kind of draft. There's no sure thing, no number

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Speaker 1: one player, no obvious franchise transforming talent. Now there might

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Speaker 1: be later on. Usually what happens is we look at

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Speaker 1: the top five picks and then we forget about all

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Speaker 1: the other picks in the first round. That's usual. Where

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Speaker 1: you find your gold. You got Anthony Edwards, James Wiseman,

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. There's less pressure on a team like the

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Speaker 1: Timberwolves if they take one of these players. Now, LaMelo

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different. He's got name recognition, He's

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Speaker 1: like the NBA's Kardashian. But everyone else in the draft

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Speaker 1: just like LaMelo Ball developmental prospect here. And maybe this

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Speaker 1: is one of those drafts that will be noteworthy because

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Speaker 1: you'll have somebody like Janis with the fifteenth pick overall

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Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, or Kobe number thirteen back in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety six. And I'm not saying there's that guy out there,

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Speaker 1: but there are those players, and they're less known to

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Speaker 1: us because there was no March Madness. And some of

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Speaker 1: these players who played overseas. Smart teams will have an

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Speaker 1: advantage coming up tonight. We may not know for some

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Speaker 1: time who really did well in this very unusual draft.

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Speaker 1: And you start with Minnesota. I think Minnesota's going to

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Speaker 1: take Anthony Edwards out of Georgia. I, unlike most people,

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Speaker 1: watched Anthony Edwards play games at Georgia, not just highlights,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's the safest pick, and he's a

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Speaker 1: you know, two way player. He's built, he's built ready

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Speaker 1: to play in the NBA right now, and it seems

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Speaker 1: like a little bit more of a finished product than

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Speaker 1: some of these other players. James Wiseman played three games.

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Speaker 1: I did watch the one game against Oregon. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I watched a game with James Wiseman with Oregon. And

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Speaker 1: then you have LaMelo Ball and Golden State is there

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Speaker 1: at number two. There's talk that maybe they send the

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Speaker 1: second pick to the Chicago Bulls in exchange for the

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Speaker 1: fourth pick overall in Wendell Carter junior. Kevin O'Connor, the

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Speaker 1: NBA writer for The Ringer, is suggesting that as a

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Speaker 1: potential deal to keep an eye on. You know how

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Speaker 1: I feel about LaMelo and lo Angelo and LaVar Ball.

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Speaker 1: You know the dad, I get them all mixed up.

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Speaker 1: There's LaMelo, there's Lo Angelo, there's uh A, Lonzo LaVar.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big LaVar Ball fan, but I will

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Speaker 1: give him credit because he did develop these kids to

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Speaker 1: be top draft picks. Two of the three are going

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Speaker 1: the NBA draft. Now, maybe they've survived in spite of him,

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Speaker 1: But they have the talent. He said they were going

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Speaker 1: to be great, and they have been. I would take

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Golden State Warrior's LaMelo Ball. Now. The

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Speaker 1: reason why would is maybe I'm developing the next group

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Speaker 1: of stars on my team, the next team that's going

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Speaker 1: to come in after Steph Curry's done and Clay Thompson's done,

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green is drunk done. If I can get somebody

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Speaker 1: who I think is got a high ceiling, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Curry when he comes over the half court line. But

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Speaker 1: understand this that LaVar Ball is extremely selfish, wanting all

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Speaker 1: the credit with what goes on with his kids. His

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Speaker 1: kids on the floor are extremely unselfish. When you think

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Speaker 1: about their best traits, they pass the ball. LaMelo and

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Speaker 1: Lonzo are extremely good at seeing the floor and passing

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Speaker 1: the ball. Now, if I could have LaMelo Ball work

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Speaker 1: His shot is low, but his ability to see the floor.

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Speaker 1: My concern is he plays as much defense as I do,

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Speaker 1: hurt him. But as far as the ceiling goes, LaMelo

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Speaker 1: Ball intrigues me. I just have to say to Dad,

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Speaker 1: you think it would go over with Steph and Clay

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Speaker 1: We want you to train the next generation. Well, he

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Speaker 1: can help you now. I'm just saying he could be

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Speaker 1: your star player in three or four years. Let's say

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Speaker 1: Will he's still be there? Draymond Green? Will he still

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Speaker 1: be there? But if I have somebody who I think

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Speaker 1: step on the floor at that position. I just have

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Speaker 1: to work on the shot. But yeah, you got to

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Speaker 1: add depth there. And I if I'm Golden State and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do something totally unique, I would take

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. Yes, boy, I guess with guys like LaMelo Ball,

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Speaker 1: I look at how many red flags are that that

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Speaker 1: person can be a bust. And you know, I know

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Speaker 1: he's not his brother, but his brother is flirting with

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Speaker 1: being an NBA career average player. Can't shoot free throws,

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Speaker 1: can't shoot any other way, and it's a nice point guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's a strike one. He now, LaMelo Ball can't

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Speaker 1: shoot the basketball. That's strike two. And he can shoot

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Speaker 1: better than his brother. Okay, but then I can too.

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Speaker 1: You can't too. Yes, And he doesn't play defense. Well,

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Speaker 1: defense is an attitude I can play. You just have

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Speaker 1: to want to play defense. I don't think I would

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Speaker 1: want that in the top three pick. Maybe if it

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Speaker 1: Wiseman can play offense, No, we don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about James Wiseman other than he's six to eleven.

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Speaker 1: and probably get a center. But as far as getting

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Speaker 1: it the way he plays it. He does have experience

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Speaker 1: playing overseas with grown men. I just find him undisciplined

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Speaker 1: at times, doesn't play defense. His ability to see the

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Speaker 1: floor is really, really really rare, really rare. The shot

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Speaker 1: goes back to what I always say about NFL picks.

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Speaker 1: We'll go. Let me tell you all the negative things

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Speaker 1: he does, but I would still take him because of

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Speaker 1: Edwards will go number one. I don't know about Obi Toppin,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about James Wiseman in today's NBA, but

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball was raised for this moment, and if I'm

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Speaker 1: Golden State, I'd have no problems taking him. Yeah, McLevin,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing some YouTube scouting and he's shooting percentages

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Speaker 1: a thousand in these videos. I tell you, I see

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry. I see he wants to be Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: The problem is nobody shoots like Steph Curry, but he

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Speaker 1: has that one motion. Steph Curry's got low release too,

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Speaker 1: you know, Scott. But it goes in on that low release,

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Speaker 1: but it gets it, hits a lot of these shots. Well,

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Speaker 1: he does make more shots than his brother. He shot

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Speaker 1: looks better. You know, Lonzo starts the ball on the

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Speaker 1: left side and brings it over. LaMelo brings it from

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Speaker 1: you know, his hip straight up. And I always wonder

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Speaker 1: about that defenders, if you put your hand on his

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Speaker 1: But I would take him. I think he's fascinating and

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Speaker 1: I think Golden State if if I had that coming

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Speaker 1: off the bench, I think that would be really interesting

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Speaker 1: and you know, just understanding the game, seeing it through

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr's eyes, Steph's eyes, Clay Thompson, Draymond Greene, I

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Speaker 1: think you could have something special. Now, do I like

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards because I think he's the most ready player

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Speaker 1: with the less you know, less or least amount of

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Speaker 1: red flags. Absolutely, But every one of these players, you're

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Speaker 1: not quite sure. They do some things well, they don't

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Speaker 1: into a league that you've got to be able to shoot,

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Speaker 1: you got to run transition, and that's why LaMelo ball

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Speaker 1: interests me. I never thought that I would say that.

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Speaker 1: Now I do like Lonzo. Yeah, I just think Lonzo

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Speaker 1: might you know, his ceiling is he's it feels like

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Speaker 1: he's approaching his ceiling because he can't shoot, but he

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Speaker 1: just I can't I can't build around that. But LaMelo,

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Speaker 1: game and become a better player by being around these players. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the Ringer's website and they do the deepest

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Speaker 1: dives on the players in the draft. I've been studying

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Speaker 1: up because none of us saw these guys play last year.

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Speaker 1: And the player comps are really beyond specific. Like Lonzo

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. They compared to Jason Williams, remember out of Florida,

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Speaker 1: the white kid. Yeah, white Chocolate. They compare him to

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Speaker 1: a Lonzo Ball. Yeah that's why I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: mcclubn goes, who's the comp for LaMelo Ball? I go

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Speaker 1: a Lonzo that's not good. And then Sean Livingston they

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Speaker 1: compare him to who was had injuries, A nice player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's they get really specific in their comparisons. They compared

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman to a mild mannered Rashid Wallace. What does

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Speaker 1: that mean he's not gonna get technical without the crazy. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: seen a couple a lot of Hassan Whiteside with James Wiseman,

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Speaker 1: and the Hassan Whiteside is the poster boy for people

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Speaker 1: who do not fit in the twenty twenty NBA. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can get a center, I can get a center anywhere,

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Speaker 1: but to get these players who do something that's special,

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Speaker 1: something unique. That's why if you're Golden State and you're

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Speaker 1: going who's the guy who has the most upside? Because

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Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm drafting at number two, who knows

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Speaker 1: when Golden State will get up there to number two

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Speaker 1: ever again in the next five years, seven years. You

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Speaker 1: have this unique situation because of injuries, and if you

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Speaker 1: have somebody who has that upside, I'd go get him,

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Speaker 1: and then I would take my chances. The draft is

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Speaker 1: littered with bus in particular with these younger players. If

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Speaker 1: Lamello doesn't pan out, okay, it's not the end of

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Speaker 1: the world, because you've got a gift to be up

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Speaker 1: there at number two, why not swing for a home

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Speaker 1: run here? Whoever you're taking now to move down to four,

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Speaker 1: who's it four that you want? And Chicago moving up

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Speaker 1: probably once LaMelo Ball, I'm guessing. I mean, it feels

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Speaker 1: like James Wiseman, you want to move up for him?

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Speaker 1: And who knows what Billy Donovan is gonna want. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Billy Donovan does have point guards? Don he have Kobe White?

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Speaker 1: this is the worst draft I've ever seen. Like, basically,

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Speaker 1: Would you be nervous taking LaMelo ball? Just be not talent? Why? Oh,

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Speaker 1: everybody's nervous taking LaMelo ball? Okay, I'm not. I'm good,

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Speaker 1: make it this time. Around this time, I am yeah,

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Speaker 1: this time. The first time it didn't get me, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I think I'll pass. But now I

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Speaker 1: watched it again and I was like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I see what's going on here. Oh

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Speaker 1: the green light should be on because it is binge watching.

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Speaker 1: beIN Worthy starts streaming seasons one and two right now.

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Speaker 1: Here's the quote from LaVar Ball his advice to his sons,

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Speaker 1: explaining why they're only going to meet hoes while living

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Speaker 1: the Jets setting life as pro basketball players. You're never

431
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Speaker 1: going to meet a nice woman, especially in basketball. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to find nobody like I found your mom,

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Speaker 1: LaVar explained. This is the Endless Hustle podcast. If you're

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Speaker 1: in this profession, you get all the fame and notoriety.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to meet a good girl? You're not,

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Speaker 1: LaVar says. The only places NBA players meet women during

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Speaker 1: their busy careers restaurants, clubs, or in the arenas. So

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Speaker 1: I hate to tell you, but you're going to meet

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Speaker 1: ah just how it goes. Son. So, Son, that's the

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Speaker 1: bad part of life. You're gonna get. You're never going

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Speaker 1: to meet a good woman. What else he say? He

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Speaker 1: also warned that by the time his kids understand what

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Speaker 1: he's talking about, it'll be almost too late. Because they

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Speaker 1: meet a woman who's thirty and single. You gotta wonder

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Speaker 1: why she's by herself at thirty. Wow, there's something that's

446
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Speaker 1: dangerous no matter how good they look. But have a

447
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Speaker 1: good time. Son. I feel bad for you, but hey,

448
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Speaker 1: I love the fact you made it. What else does

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Speaker 1: he say? Says his boys will never meet a woman

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Speaker 1: at a typical job or at a church because the

451
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Speaker 1: demands of the NBA are too time consuming. How are

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Speaker 1: you going to meet somebody and be solid. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Sorry, you will have to retire. Wow, dad man? Well,

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Speaker 1: Lonzo was dating his girlfriend from high school for years.

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Speaker 1: They had a child together. I'm gonna guess that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he gave it a shot. There was somebody that he

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Speaker 1: knew before he became truly famous. You know What's he

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Speaker 1: worried about his kids settling down in their twenties for

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Speaker 1: or whatever, Like, YO, find a nice girl, settled, worry

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Speaker 1: about it? Do play basketball? Well? Because Dad didn't have

461
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Speaker 1: a career, and that's why he settled down after that

462
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: stellar college career where he averaged three points. I think

463
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Speaker 1: he averaged three points more than I did in college.

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Speaker 1: But he's got advice, and I can't discount in all

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Speaker 1: some of his advice and then see what he did

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Speaker 1: with his other advice with his kids. But he's got

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Speaker 1: two that are going in the top five of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Something to be said for that. What's pull question today? Mcclevin, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we could go with the number one pick. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna ask who do you think we'll go number one?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if anyone has a strong opinion

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Speaker 1: on that. Who should go number one? Is that a

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Speaker 1: better question? Or I don't even know if our audience

474
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Speaker 1: is I don't think anybody now I think it's this

475
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Speaker 1: is really niche draft coming up tonight. Even even you

476
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Speaker 1: know the basketball fanatics, it's hard to I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: be all in on this draft tonight. There's a couple

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Speaker 1: of players I'm curious about. There's a couple of teams

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about going to be trades here. Mannix will

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Speaker 1: join us coming up next hour. But if you're trying

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Speaker 1: to find a franchise player, you might find one. And

482
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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. You might, but it feels like the guy

483
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Speaker 1: who might be slipping through the cracks. You find somebody

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Speaker 1: at the sixteenth pick overall, that might be the guy

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Speaker 1: that we look back on and go, wow, they found

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Speaker 1: themselves a bam out of bio there. Yeah, poll, how

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Speaker 1: about a pole if you would the GM of the Warriors,

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Speaker 1: would you draft a player that could play now, draft

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Speaker 1: a player who's a project but has much more upside,

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Speaker 1: or trade your draft pick for a player that can

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Speaker 1: help you this season? Philosophically, where would you land? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but this has to do with LaMelo Ball. And I

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Speaker 1: think LaMelo can help you now. I think he can

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Speaker 1: help you in the future. And they you know, eventually,

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Speaker 1: when you draft a young player, that's your future. So

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Speaker 1: like it or not, Golden State, you know, if Steph

497
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Speaker 1: Curry or Klay Thompson's going to go, well, there's our future. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what happens. When you draft somebody young, that's the

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Speaker 1: next wave that'll come in for you. And maybe that's

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. Maybe you just ask something as simple, would

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Speaker 1: you draft LaMelo Ball? And it doesn't have to be

502
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Speaker 1: the Warriors, it could be anybody. I'm just saying it

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Speaker 1: fits with the Warriors because I have an infrastructure there

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Speaker 1: that I feel really secure about. I got great front office,

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Speaker 1: great coach, I've got Hall of famers on the floor,

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Speaker 1: and by having him come in, he must listen to you.

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Speaker 1: He must do it your way. If he goes to

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Speaker 1: a franchise, you know, if he went to like Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: then I wouldn't have as much confidence in LaMelo ball

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Speaker 1: being successful. But if you go to Golden State and

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Speaker 1: you learn, and you're learning from professionals, and you got

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Speaker 1: guys who shoot as well as anybody in the history

513
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Speaker 1: of the game, I think that that can only help him.

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Speaker 1: That he understands the game and he's far more discipline

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Speaker 1: when he gets to the NBA, because you go back

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Speaker 1: to his freshman year in high school and he would

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Speaker 1: just dribble around and jack it up and there was

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Speaker 1: no discipline whatsoever. And that continued. I watched him in

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Speaker 1: one of the state playoff games and I went dribbling

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Speaker 1: down the clock and he made no attempt to get

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Speaker 1: to the hoop or a shorter jump shot. It was

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00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: like an off balanced thirty footer and I went, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? He won't be doing that with Golden

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Speaker 1: State if he goes there. Yeah, mcclu Golden State loved

525
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: one of his player comps with Shawan Livingston, right, he

526
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Speaker 1: who just left retired with the front office of the team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we never got to see the greatness of Sean

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Speaker 1: who in college. You know, he had knee surgery and

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Speaker 1: he was a good player. He's very good at that

530
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: Warriors system though. Yeah, he was a good role player,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't get to see greatness due to the

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Speaker 1: knee surgeries. Yes, Seaton. See, like that's part of the

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Speaker 1: problem too, though, is that, like because of all of

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Speaker 1: the attention on the ball family. Right, we're watching LaMelo

535
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Speaker 1: ball at you know, thirteen or fourteen years old, jacking

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Speaker 1: up shots from all over the place, looking like a

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Speaker 1: fourteen year old kid. That's kind of what they do,

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of how they play. But instead there's you know,

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Speaker 1: YouTube reels of just how terrible this kid was when

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Speaker 1: he was fourteen, or look how great he was when

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Speaker 1: he was fifteen. You know, Well, I think what happened

542
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Speaker 1: is fourteen year olds on the varsity don't shoot like that.

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Speaker 1: They don't take thirty footers. If you're a senior, you're

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Speaker 1: not doing it because you're smart enough to know I'm

545
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Speaker 1: not taking thirty foot. He's fourteen acting fourteen when he's

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Speaker 1: on the varsity. Like, if I did that, I would

547
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Speaker 1: never play again, not even like dude and I can shoot.

548
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Speaker 1: This guy can't shoot, and he's out there jacking it up.

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00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: They all want to be Steph Curry. Now he gets

550
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: a chance to be with Steph Curry. It feels like

551
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan would want LaMelo Ball to la. No. Mike No,

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Speaker 1: Mike is no, Mike is there? You go. That's the

553
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Speaker 1: worst thing you can say when it comes. I was

554
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: on the fence before about this theory, but now I

555
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: know it's terrible. You just selfund yourself. I think, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know you're right. Well, he's also interested, reported named

557
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wesrook Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah. You know Mike

558
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Speaker 1: as an owner in GM. He was a great player.

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Speaker 1: He was a great player. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

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Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine

562
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Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us

563
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live

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Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Chris Mannix Sports illustrated NBA senior

565
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Speaker 1: writer ready to cover the NBA Draft. Let's get it

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Speaker 1: out of the way, Mannix, your favorite player in the draft.

567
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Speaker 1: Five years from now, when we play this SoundBite, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna look like a star. I still think that James

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Speaker 1: Wiseman will be the next great big man in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Is that important? Sure? I mean, I think the value

571
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Speaker 1: of the big man is still really important. It's just

572
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: the big man has to do a lot more than

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Speaker 1: what he did in the nineties and early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Wiseman can prove that he can step

575
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Speaker 1: out beyond the three point line, which I think he will,

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Speaker 1: he's going to add that to a repertoire that already

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: includes incredible athleticism, defensive instincts that will make him an

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Speaker 1: impact player on that end right of the way, right away. Look,

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Speaker 1: we can talk about this, but I think Golden State

580
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: is still fielding offers for that number two overall pick.

581
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Speaker 1: But if they stay at number two, I believe Wiseman

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Speaker 1: will be in Golden State. Yeah, but if he's that obvious,

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: it's that obviously he's going to be great. Why would

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Speaker 1: Golden State pass on something that's obvious? I mean, because

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Speaker 1: if you have an opportunity to acquire a player that

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: fits your championship window more closely, you certainly have to

587
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Speaker 1: to lock in on that. I mean, Wiseman has is

588
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Speaker 1: basically going to be off for almost two seasons by

589
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: the time he gets back onto the floor. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he only played those three games at Memphis last year,

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Speaker 1: So there's going to be a considerable learning curve for

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman. If you're Golden State, you're looking at two

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Speaker 1: three years with this group where you could potentially win

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Speaker 1: three championships if you get the right guys. So if

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Speaker 1: you're the Warriors, you have to consider all veteran players available.

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Speaker 1: The problem is, I'm really not seeing those type of

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Speaker 1: impact players materialize as trade targets right now. Tommy Shepherd

598
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Speaker 1: with the Wizards came out in a conference call yesterday

599
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Speaker 1: and said Bradley Beale is not available. Bradley Beale is

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Speaker 1: not going to go anywhere, and he's been saying that

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Speaker 1: for the better part of the last six months, So

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Speaker 1: it would be a big reversal on that part. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Harden's in play for Golden State, at least

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Speaker 1: not right now, so I don't think there's a deal

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Speaker 1: for them that makes sense on draft night. I like

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. I like him. I know that there's other

607
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Speaker 1: things that come with that, but I do think that

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Speaker 1: ceiling wise, I think with Golden State, that would be

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Speaker 1: the perfect you know, ownership management, coach star players. And

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Speaker 1: I will say this, his dad is extremely selfish, but

611
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: his sons are very unselfish when they're on the floor.

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Speaker 1: You might be able to correct that shot a little bit.

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Speaker 1: With Steph and Clay there and Steve Kerr a great

614
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: shooter as well. I know he doesn't play defense, but

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Speaker 1: defense is an attitude, and I think he could. He

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Speaker 1: could be like his brother. Tell me why you would

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Speaker 1: not take LaMelo Ball. Well, I love the playmaking. I

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00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: think he's going to be spectacular in that area. I

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Speaker 1: don't love his shooting, and I certainly don't love his shot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you watch that LaMelo shot,

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Speaker 1: it it reminds you, in some ways of joking Noah's shot,

622
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Speaker 1: which was useful during Jokim's career. He was a solid

623
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Speaker 1: He developed into a solid perimeter player. But for a

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00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: point guard and somebody that you need to be a

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00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: consistent three point threat, I think it's going to need

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00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: some significant changes, just like his brother A Lonzo needed

627
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: some changes to his shot when he came into the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That's like, it's not a deal breaker, but it makes

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Speaker 1: it a risky pick at number one. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what Minnesota is going to do

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Speaker 1: a number one. I'm pretty sure they're going to keep

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Speaker 1: that pick. No, if I'm Golden State, I look at

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Speaker 1: him because I got a guy who can fit in

634
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: that system under you come off the bench, but he

635
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: could absorb the Warrior's way, and I think that of

636
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: all the places for him to go, that would be

637
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: the place that I could see him really really benefiting.

638
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: Two two things. One, I do think he's still in

639
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: play for number one. I think that's that's still possible

640
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: with Minnesota, which would make it extremely uncomfortable D'Angelo Russell

641
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: to get shoved out, potentially by another ball brother. I mean,

642
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: that would be a tough look for for DeAngelo. I

643
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: just don't I don't see it in Golden State. Dan, Yeah,

644
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: maybe no long term maybe, But if you're the Warriors,

645
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: are you really thinking long term right now? I mean,

646
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: you've got your star court is just in their early thirties,

647
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: Draymond a little bit older. I think you've got to

648
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I think you've got a focus on guys that can

649
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: help you win right now, and I don't know that. Look,

650
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: you can potentially play if you drafted Anthony Edwards, you

651
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: can potentially play with Anthony Edwards, Clay Thompson and Steph Curry.

652
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: I just don't see a scenario where you could really

653
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: play Steph LaMelo and Clay Thompson. I agree with that,

654
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: But the number of years Dan it would take to

655
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: get LaMelo on the same page, You're just you're just

656
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: wasting prime, and you're wasting the prime years of your guys.

657
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: I think you've got to get better right away. He's

658
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer. The James Harden

659
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: situation now Russell Westbrook when I saw that maybe the

660
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Wizards and the Rockets could swap John Wall for Russell Westbrook,

661
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: and I thought, if I'm Houston, why the hell do

662
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: I want John Wall? Now if I'm Washington and I

663
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: got Russell Westbrook, I'd do that in a second if

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Speaker 1: I'm the Wizards. But if I'm the Rockets, I wouldn't

665
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: trade anybody right now. I think they have leveraged, certainly

666
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: with Harden. I need another team interested in Harden before

667
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: I make any move there. What do you think, Chris

668
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: completely agree it would be knee jerk for the Rockets

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Speaker 1: to make a deal for James Harden right now. He's

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00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: under contract for the next three years. And yes, he

671
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: sent some pretty powerful messages to the organization by turning

672
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: down that two year extensions, as Agrian war Chnowski reported

673
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: at fifty million dollars per I mean, that's a pretty

674
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: strong message. And look, he's communicated that he would like

675
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: to play in Brooklyn. So you know, the smoke signals

676
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: are getting a lot stronger these days from James Harden.

677
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: But that can't be a factor if you're the Houston Rockets.

678
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: You have got to get multiple teams into a bidding war.

679
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that doesn't happen until mid season. Yeah, maybe things

680
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: have to shake out where maybe Washington struggles and Bradley

681
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Beal does become available. Maybe there's another player we're not

682
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: talking about that does become available. More importantly, if you're

683
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: the Rockets, you have to address the Westbrook situation first,

684
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: Like you can't do anything with James Harden until you

685
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: figure out if somebody will take Westbrook and what you

686
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: will get back for Westbrook. So one of the reasons

687
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: the Wizards things didn't go anywhere is because my understanding

688
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: is the Wizards were like, we'll talk about a John

689
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Wall Russell Westbrook swap, and the Rockets come back saying, well,

690
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: we want picks too, Like, no, you're not. We'll take

691
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: your distressed asset for our distressed asset, but we're not

692
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: going to start giving you the kind of compensation that

693
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: you gave to Oklahoma City to get him in the

694
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: first place. So it's gonna be a tough need on

695
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: the thread because I don't know that the market is

696
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: there for Russell Westbrook. I mean, people keep pointing at

697
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: the Knicks. I mean, the Knicks might have been the

698
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: stupid five years ago, but I don't think there's dumb anymore.

699
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: And for everything I've been told out of New York,

700
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: they're really not interested or focused on Russell Westbrook. Charlotte might,

701
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: but if Wiseman goes number two and Anthony Edwards goes

702
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: number one, Charlotte's gonna jump on LaMelo Ball. And if

703
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: they take LaMelo Ball, that would probably pull them out

704
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: of the race for Russell Westbrook. So a Charlotte team

705
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: without a young point guarding the draft might be Houston's

706
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: best chance to make a deal for Westbrook at least

707
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. I mentioned this a couple

708
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: of minutes ago. I think James Harden is at the

709
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: point in his career where he can't do anything more

710
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: individually than he's already done. Team wise. We know he can,

711
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: and maybe he senses that, can we do what Golden

712
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: State did? Can we can I go with KD Kyrie

713
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: and we create that because when he was sixth man

714
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City, Harden was wonderful off the ball. And

715
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's at the point where, how

716
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: about I average twenty two and we're actually a factor

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00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: in winning a championship here. I don't know that's part

718
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: of this that he sort of senses I'm thirty one.

719
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: Time is sort of running out with me. To be

720
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: recognized as one of the great players of all time.

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00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: He's always going he's one of the great scores of

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00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: all time. He'll never be labeled one of the great

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00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: players of all time. It'll be great scores of all time,

724
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: and maybe that's starting to sink in a little bit. Dan,

725
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: I figure dead on with the assessment of kind of

726
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: who James Harden is, and Scott Brooks has told me

727
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: this story a couple of times where you know, Hardened

728
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City was fine coming off the bench, like

729
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: had no issue playing, you know, third fiddle to Kevin

730
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: Durant and Russell Westbrook. And every time I kind of

731
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: repeat this, people will say, oh, that was a lifetime ago.

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00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: James Harden is a different player. It wasn't the Alpha,

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00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: the three time scoring champion, the MVP that he is

734
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: right now. That's all true, but my understanding of James

735
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Harden is that that mindset is still within him. He's

736
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: not going to go to a team, any team, and

737
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: demand it be his team, especially not a team that,

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: as Kevin Durant on, a player he's still been close

739
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: with over the years. People forget Dan that James Harden

740
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't leave Oklahoma City because he needed a bigger role.

741
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: He left Oklahoma City because they wouldn't pay him. And

742
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: that remains one of the great mistakes of the Oklahoma

743
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: City franchise as you go back in history. They wouldn't

744
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: give him the full max contract and Houston would I'm

745
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: not I don't have too many doubts Dan that if

746
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: you put James Harden on a team with Harden and

747
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Kevin Durant, I don't have many doubts that

748
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Harden will be able to fit in. Kyrie's a different story.

749
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that works with Kyrie, but I

750
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: think Harden would be fine in that situation because to

751
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: your point, he values winning. He wants a chance to win.

752
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: That's why he wants out of Houston, and that's why

753
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: he's angling for Brooklyn. I like what the Lakers did

754
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: with Dennis Shrewder. I think that's a sneaky, great pick up.

755
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: He's what twenty seven. You're gonna probably lose Rondo Coldwell,

756
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: Pope will come back, Anthony Davis will come back. Do

757
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers do anything else here in the off season

758
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: or in the draft offseason, Yes, I mean they are

759
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: going to go bargain shopping with their exceptions to see

760
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: if there are those players out there that want to

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: chase a championship. And we know there are players like

762
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: that every year. The Shrewder deal was kind of their

763
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: one ship to play because they had Danny Green's contract

764
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: and they had to pick the deal. So they kicked

765
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: the tires on a few situations there where they called.

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00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: They talked to Milwaukee about Eric Bledsoe. This deal, ultimately,

767
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: I think is better for them because Shrewder is still

768
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: a player on the rise. He's a terrific catch and

769
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: shoot three point shooter, which really matters when you play

770
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: off of Lebron James, and he's coming off the best

771
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: season of his career where he probably should have won

772
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: the NBA sixth Man of the Year award. So this

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00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: I think is a big time edition because I do

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00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: think they will lose Rondo either the Clippers or somebody

775
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: else in free agency as he seeks that one more

776
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: big deal. I also, Dan, I like this deal for

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00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. And when this deal happened and the deal

778
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee happen with Drew Holliday, Hey, I'm thinking like

779
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like May of twenty twenty seven when

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Sam Presty and David Griffin are the only people in

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00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: the lottery room. It's like the two of them because

782
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: they just have they have all the pics, like they

783
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: keep hoarding all these things and They're gonna wind up

784
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: with everybody's lottery pick and be in the room by themselves.

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: In the summer of twenty twenty seven, the great Chris Mannox.

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00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris, Sports illustratis NBA senior writer. Have fun tonight.

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Ricky Rubio to Oklama City. Yeah,

788
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Sorry about New Jersey. Sorry about that. Yeah,

789
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: you got a lot of jerseys, Ricky Rubio's name on it.

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00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday

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00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,560
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Speaker 1: Peacock act. I saw this story, I followed this story.

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Speaker 1: I still don't understand this story, and that's why I

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Speaker 1: bring in Mike Floyo from Pro Football Talk Live, the

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Speaker 1: co host with Chris Simms every morning Monday through Friday

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00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: preceding this show on Peacock. It's the story of DeAndre Baker,

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00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: who played for the Giants or at least I think

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00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: he played for the Giants and now he's with the

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00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. He'd got a chance to play for

805
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring. Who would have thought we'd be

806
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: in this position? Mike So explained to the audience the

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00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker situation. Well, it's funny. You don't understand it.

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00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: You assume I understand it. I'm not sure anybody understand you.

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00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: A Lloyd incident back in May involving DeAndre Baker and

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00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Quentin Dunbar, where the allegation was that they committed armed

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Speaker 1: robbery at a house party, and as the days and

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00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: weeks went by, there became a sense that maybe the

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00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: witnesses slash victims were changing their stories, and maybe people

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00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: were seeking money, and it all got very confusing and murky,

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00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: and it's entirely possible that something happened that shouldn't have happened.

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00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: But once the witnesses essentially are disqualified by this financial angle,

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00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: and you had a lawyer representing the witnesses slash victims

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00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: who ended up being arrested for extortion, you know it's

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00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: possible something happened that didn't happen, and then somebody saw

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00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make some money off of it, and

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00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, the whole case falls apart

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00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: because no one can testify now because everyone's been corrupted

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00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: by this one way or the other. So the end

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00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: result is Quentin Dunbar never got charged. He's still playing

825
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: and has been playing for the Seahawks. Baker was charged,

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Speaker 1: was cut by the Giants, was reinstated by the league

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Speaker 1: from the Commissioner example list, and now is a member

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00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs practice squads. So who knows what ultimately

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00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: did happen on that evening in May. But the end

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00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: result is there's no one who can take a witness

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00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 1: stand and ultimately provide the kind of evidence that would

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00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt. So no one getting charged.

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00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: No one's going to jail except maybe people who are

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00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: involved in this scam to turn the situation into a payday.

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Speaker 1: But I thought the lawyer is he involved charged with extortion?

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Speaker 1: Is the lawyer for these two DeAndre Baker? Is he

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00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: in trouble too? Well, it's the lawyer. This is where

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00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: it gets even weirder. It's the lawyer representing the witnesses

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00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: slash victims who got charged with extortion. But then the

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00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: lawyer for Quentin Dunbar was under scrutiny for being involved

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00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: in this effort to pay off witness to see there's

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00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: a gray area there between paying off witnesses to influence

843
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: testimony and also seeking the money because you're extorting money

844
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: from these potential criminal defendants, and basically everyone ends up

845
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: being compromised, and the only winners in all this are

846
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: the guys who very well may have committed a crime,

847
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: but it's never going to be proven because you have

848
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: no one that you can now put on a witness

849
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: stand that anyone's going to leave because it's all been

850
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: tainted by the profit motive that pops up when people realize, hey,

851
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: you know that crime I just reported, Maybe I can

852
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: change my testimony if somebody's going to give me some

853
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: money to do so. DeAndre A. Baker ends up with

854
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs on their practice squad. Is he

855
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: any good? Well, you know he wasn't great last year,

856
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: but he was a first round pick. So somebody saw

857
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: something in the guy to bring him into the NFL

858
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: at a fairly high level. And if the Chiefs believe

859
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: that they can work him into their system and that's

860
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: the thing about the practice squad that she got sixteen

861
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: guys because the COVID protocols, you have a spot to burn.

862
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: Bring him in, see what he has. It's low risk,

863
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: it's low money, and if you like him, you bring

864
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: him up to the active roster and you put him

865
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: on the field. If you don't like him, you just

866
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: sever ties and move on to someone else. So I

867
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: think it's smart for the Chiefs to do it. And yeah,

868
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: he now has an opportunity to finish a very difficult

869
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: and challenging year with a potential Super Bowl appearance. Will

870
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: the newest allegations against Antonio Brown be enough for the

871
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: league to step in first of all, explain what happened

872
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: and did he violate his contract? Already? Well, and you've

873
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: got three different parties that may care about what happened

874
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: on October fifteen. You've got the Buccaneers who already have

875
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: issued a statement making it clear that they don't care.

876
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: You've got the league, and then you've got the authorities

877
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: who have responsibility for Antonio Brown's felony probation dating back

878
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: to the incident in January with the driver of a

879
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: moving truck. He's on probation for a felony, So one

880
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: false move and you get thrown in jail. So what

881
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: happened on October fifteen? Allegedly he broke a security camera

882
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: at a gated community he resides at in Florida. He

883
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: allegedly threw a bike at a security guard shack. The

884
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: homeowners association decided not to press charges, but police concluded

885
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: there was probable cause to find him guilty of misdemeanor

886
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: criminal mischief. So from the authority's perspective, is that enough

887
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: to attack his probation. That's one question that hasn't been

888
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: resolved yet. From the league's perspective, this guy's a repeat offender.

889
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Is this enough even if he's not charging. We've seen

890
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: guys get suspended without ever being arrested, like Ezekiel Elliott.

891
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Is this enough? But there's a separate issue Dan. Under

892
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: the terms of the Personal Conduct Policy, if you're involved

893
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: in an incident, even if you're not arrested, you've got

894
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: an obligation to tell the league, and you can be

895
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: disciplined separately for that. And the league yesterday, through its

896
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: in house media conglomerate, reported that it didn't know about this.

897
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: So Brown didn't tell them about it when it happened.

898
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: That could be a separate ground for disciplining him based

899
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: upon his history suspending him. You know, he's still got

900
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: this open issue arising from the civil lawsuit alleging sexual

901
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: assault and rape that the league just kicked the can.

902
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: They didn't do anything. They're gonna wait and see what

903
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: the court does. They didn't want to take a position

904
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: one way or the other, which is kind of ludicrous

905
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: to me. If you're gonna have an in house justice system,

906
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: at some point, you need to issue a verdict their

907
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: verdict is, or just wait and see what happens. But

908
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: if they are motivated to go after him, they already

909
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: have enough just based on a fact, if it's true

910
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: as reported by NFL media, that he didn't disclose it

911
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: to the league. So look, at the end of the day, Dan,

912
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: We've seen this time and again over the past ten years.

913
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: The league is going to do what it wants, when

914
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: it wants, how it wants, and it has enough cover

915
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: to do basically whatever it chooses to do in any

916
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: one case. So we sit back and we wait and

917
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: see whatever inclination they may have if they want to

918
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: suspend him again, they can. If they want to look

919
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: the other way, they can, and we just wait and

920
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: see what happens. We're talking to Mike floryal Pro Football

921
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: Talk Live co host. I brought this up when Alex

922
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Smith got in the game a couple of weeks ago,

923
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: and I said to him, do you have your Comeback

924
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Player of the Year Awards speech ready? And then all

925
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I had somebody say, well, you're forgetting

926
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: about Ben Roethlisberger, And I thought, okay, Ben coming back

927
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: from arm surgery, he's you know, I guess implanted himself

928
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: in the MVP candidate se race. But Alex Smith came

929
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: back from nearly dying, nearly losing his leg to throwing

930
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: for over three their yards in a game Like I

931
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if it matters to either one

932
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: of these players winning Comeback Player of the Year award,

933
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: but it feels like what Alex Smith did is a

934
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: whole lot different than what Ben Roethlisberger has done. Even

935
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: though Ben very high level and they're undefeated, where do

936
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: you stay well? And I agree with you, coming back

937
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: from near amputation and near death is significant and it's unprecedented.

938
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: We're always going to have somebody who comes back from

939
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: an injury and plays well. So I think the fact

940
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: that this one is so different sets it apart. And

941
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: part of the problem is nobody knows what it means

942
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: to be the comeback Player of the Year. Ryan Tannehill

943
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: won it last year. Shrine Williams who works with us

944
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: at PFT, soa what did he come back from? Thinking

945
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: does that? Does that make you the comeback Player of

946
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: the Year? And what I remember when Matthew Stafford won it,

947
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: he never was in a position to be coming back.

948
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: It was just the first year he was any good.

949
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: So there's no definition for it. I know. Peter King,

950
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: who's got one of the votes, said before Alex Smith

951
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: even played in a game, all he's got to do

952
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: is take one snap yeah, and he gets my vote.

953
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: And I have a feeling a lot of the fifty

954
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: voters feel the same way. I'll leave you with this

955
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: with a quick response. If Kyler Murray wins the NFC

956
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals dot dot dot MVP, oh without question. Okay,

957
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: if he wins, if well, now, if he's the one seed,

958
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: and he very well could end up taking the Cardinals

959
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: to the one seed. But this guy's going to be potentially,

960
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: and he's on track to be the first player in

961
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: league history to throw for four thousand yards and rush

962
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: for a thousand yards. Everything he does is exciting. I

963
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: wish more of his games. We're on a national platform

964
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: so we could all appreciate how good he is. I've

965
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: never seen anyone like him. The combination of speed, agility,

966
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: and awareness. It is so fun to watch him, and

967
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him on Thursday night, and

968
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: I hope that we get to see him more times

969
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: before the end of the season. Great to talk to you, Mike,

970
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

971
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

972
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox

973
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Dan Patrick

974
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us

975
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,960
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976
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: s R, or stream us live on the Peacock app.

977
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: The Indiana Hoosiers four and o right now. Their head

978
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: coach is Tom Allen, who joins us on the program. Coach, Congratulations,

979
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: How surprised are you that you're four and o right now?

980
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: Going into the Ohio State game. Well, thanks Dan, prescient

981
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: you having me. You know, I'm not going to sit

982
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: here and say I'm surprised, because I'm not. You know,

983
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: our team has building to this point for the last

984
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: several years. I'm sure not everybody agrees with my assessment,

985
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: but in terms of our locker room and our players,

986
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: you talk to them, they would give you a similar response.

987
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: Your voice sounds about eight games into a season, not

988
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: four games into a season. Coach, you got to take

989
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: care of that voice. Yeah, I need to, but I

990
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: don't do a very good job of that. I do

991
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: quite a bit of yelling. You do, do the players understand?

992
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: Like if you yell, do the players know they're in

993
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: trou or they're They're just that's how you you coach them. Well,

994
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: they'll know the difference. I'm usually pretty loud in general,

995
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: but it'll change in tone when it's not positive. But um,

996
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: I just I like coach with a lot of energy.

997
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: So I do a lot of communicating with our team

998
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: and try to reinforce the good end of band. Well. Also,

999
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: no fans, so the players can't say, hey, I didn't

1000
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: hear your coach. That's right. They can hear everything. Now,

1001
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: what did you think when you watch the Ohio State tapes,

1002
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: it's impressive. You know. The thing that jumps out to

1003
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: me is just justin fields. I mean, he just he

1004
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: never hardly throws the incompletion. I mean, it's it's amazing

1005
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: how he's so accurate. And uh, he's just playing at

1006
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: an extremely high level. You know, they're always every year

1007
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: were playing. Um, they look similar in terms of they're

1008
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: just so big and physical a lot of great athletes.

1009
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Scheme is really really good, very well coached, you know, so,

1010
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: but when you got a player like Jessica, That's why

1011
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I thought last year's team was different than the previous

1012
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: team we played against because of his ability to throw

1013
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: the football so accurately, so effectively, and in his athleticism

1014
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: is elite as well. So he's what makes them really

1015
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: really special. I think makes them different than when Dwayne

1016
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: Haskins was there. Yeah, because he can run it in

1017
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: throw it. You know, Dwayne was just a passer and

1018
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: the run through I wasn't the same, whereas now you

1019
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: have the passing ability and the running ability that I

1020
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: think is is extremely high level. So it puts a

1021
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: ton of stress on the defense. What is your message,

1022
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: do you already know what you're going to say to

1023
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: your team before they take the field against Ohio's take.

1024
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: I've got an idea. It kind of builds throughout the week.

1025
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: I kind of you know, take a lot in pray

1026
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: about it, ponder a lot of things, figure out what

1027
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: they need to hear at that moment. Obviously, if the

1028
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: preparation matters more than that final, you know, charge to

1029
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: our team. But at the same time, you know, we

1030
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: got to play with a ton of confidence and we

1031
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: just got to go there a little rip. You know.

1032
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity for sure, but we're playing a

1033
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: team that Indian hasn't beaten very frequently in the past.

1034
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you should watch a miracle on ice with her

1035
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: Brooks and get that speech and maybe maybe sprinkled that in.

1036
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: Your kids might not be aware of that speech, coach,

1037
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: so you could sample from her Brooks and maybe maybe

1038
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: I'll resonate with your kids. Yeah, you never know, But

1039
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't think our guys think it's gonna take America.

1040
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: We's got player basketball. Why not an eight team playoff

1041
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: this year? If you look at you know what you

1042
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: guys have been through college football has been through. You're

1043
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: not sure, how many games you're gonna play, It's not

1044
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: going to be the summer the same number with the

1045
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: SEC and the AEC in Big twelve. Isn't it really

1046
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: crying out for an eighteen playoff this year? Yeah? I

1047
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: would have to agree with you on that one. I

1048
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: think it would make a ton of sense. There's so

1049
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: many things, There's going to be so many inequities with

1050
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: everybody's schedule, number of games played, and how do you

1051
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: decide what matters or how do you what number do

1052
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: you come up with when when the kids have no

1053
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: control of any of that. So it'd be a perfect

1054
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: time to expand it to that number. So it doesn't

1055
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: look like that's going to happen, but it sure would

1056
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense. What was that feeling

1057
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: like in the locker room you beat Penn State in overtime?

1058
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, you know, just a culmination of a

1059
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: lot of things. You know, this is a room full

1060
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: of guys that believed in the vision that we had

1061
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: for this program, even when many did not believe, and

1062
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: that these guys did. That's why they came here. Coach

1063
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: of staff included. And so it was a special, special time.

1064
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: It was a great, great feeling and one I'll never forget.

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00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: It's one thing when you're a coaching you see one

1066
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: of your players out there injured. It's another thing, I'm

1067
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: sure when you look out there and you see that

1068
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: it's your son, Thomas, a reserve linebacker who got injured.

1069
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: What's that like as not a coach but a parent,

1070
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: when you're watching what's going on. Yeah, rips your heart out,

1071
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, It's just it is a little different. You know,

1072
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you when it's your son.

1073
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: And I didn't know at the time how serious it was.

1074
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: But when I got out there and our medical guys

1075
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: whispered to me that it was a dislocated hip, I

1076
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: was I couldn't believe it. I knew that was serious injury.

1077
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: And so my heart just sank because I knew this

1078
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: season was over and obviously even his whole future was

1079
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: in jeopardy. So but you know, he's a tough, tough kid,

1080
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: and you got to be able to separate the two.

1081
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: But man, I love him my whole heart, and he's

1082
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: a special young man. We've been through a lot together. So,

1083
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: but he had surgery yesterday and he's on his road

1084
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: back to recovery. Yeah, it's one thing for you. You

1085
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: got to you gotta coach a game. How did mom

1086
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: feel about that? Uh, watching that's really hard. Well, you know,

1087
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: it's it's all the travel and everything. So she wasn't

1088
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: even at the game, and so I had a DFO

1089
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: caller immediately because obviously she saw what happened when watching

1090
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: the game, but didn't know the details, and just tried

1091
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: to get her to be able to stay informed, and

1092
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: so that made it really really difficult on her for sure.

1093
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: So but it's part of being in this profession and

1094
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: part of being what we do. We've kind of learned

1095
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: to gotta have thick skin and gotta be tough. How

1096
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: many jobs have you had? This is my eleventh school

1097
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: that I've been at. That includes high school and college,

1098
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: so number eleven. Yeah, and you were at Newcastle High School, right,

1099
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: that's correct. That's where I went to school. Played for

1100
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: my dad a couple years after Steve Alford. Yes, he's

1101
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: five years older than I was the seventh grade when

1102
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: he was a senior, and he would package. So you

1103
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: watched him in that gym. What's that gym? See ten

1104
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: thousand ten thousand, unbelievab high school rey and how about

1105
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: that ten thousand pounds only got twenty thousand. What was

1106
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: it like to to watch Steve Alford in high school? Oh, unbelievable.

1107
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: Every game was sold out. I'd sit there and we

1108
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: had I keep track of his They didn't have a

1109
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: three cornerback then, so I keep track of all of

1110
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: his points, all his shots, all his free throws. You

1111
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: never missed eve free throws. Unbelievable. But his dad was

1112
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: the head coach for basketball obviously, and so uh yeah,

1113
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: free special time. He was so fun to watch. And uh,

1114
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: I've always looked up to him. I wonder, what would

1115
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: you have averaged with a three point shot? Back then?

1116
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: In high we average thirty seven without it, so he

1117
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: had to think. It's kind of bed for forties, which

1118
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Yeah. Well, who's the biggest name out of

1119
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Newcastle High School? Steve Alford? Okay, well, if you beat

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00:58:52,160 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State, yeah, well, hey, you know, congrats. I'm old

1121
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: enough to remember when Indiana was competitive back in the eighties.

1122
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: I think the running back was Mike hark Raider, and

1123
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: I think he ran for a thousand yards. Coach Corso

1124
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: was there. I go back a long way now. I

1125
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: grew up an Ohio State fan, but I remember when

1126
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: Indiana used to be okay. But you've you've brought him back.

1127
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean this is more than bringing him back. This

1128
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: is something that Indiana football hadn't seen in a long, long,

1129
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: long time. So congratulations on that and good luck against

1130
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Thank you, Dan, I sure appreciate it. Having

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1132
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