WEBVTT - Daughters are Golden 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.840 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:04.720 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.200 This is Almost Famous Podcast. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.320 We have a very special episode today, a very unique episode, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.720 something we don't get to do very often, right because 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.640 there's only one show that we can really do it 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.840 with in this kind of format. Ashley, tell all of 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:21.520 our listeners who we have today. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:26.360 We have Natalie who is Pascal's daughter, and we have 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.400 her here today to give us all the deeds about 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.640 her dad. Listen, we are so compelled by him, so 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.000 we're so excited to know what it was like growing 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.920 up with him and how he uses a dad. So 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.400 can we start with like day one, the. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.000 Day one from birth? 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.080 Yeah, I have to say growing up with him is 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.880 he honestly was like the best dad. He is very energetic, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.840 as you guys can tell. So we were always doing things. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.200 We went to every Disney on Ice show. Obviously, my 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.880 hair was always pristine. Was actually the one to always 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.600 do my hair in those cute little butterfly clips and 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.440 those tight cute ponytails. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:07.960 He was a great dad growing up. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.560 Honestly, your dad owns a salon? Is it a medspo? 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.800 So yeah, yeah, okay, it. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.520 Is Okay, hold up, I need to pause you there though. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:23.080 Is it multiple because we don't have to get into 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.039 his personal finances or how you two have lived in 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.199 the world, But at least from the first couple of weeks, 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.000 it would seem that this medspa has done very well 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:35.440 for him. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:37.559 It has done very well. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:43.840 Yes, he started with one downtown, so that's the one 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.080 that he had when I was younger. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.520 Then yes, in Chicago. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.960 Then he opened another one in the suburb, and then 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.360 he closed both of those and then opened a big one, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.040 and then he started to kind of branch out and 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.960 then realized that he didn't really want to franchise, and 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.960 now he just has the one and he's like semi 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.080 retired and he only works a couple days a week 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.320 now and travels a lot. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.160 So so did he start out as a hair stylist? 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.359 He started sweeping the floors? 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.200 Actually amazing, that's right. He told us that on the 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:16.480 one episode, the one date. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.440 Yeah, he was an assistant. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:23.280 What drew him to esthetics? And has he always been 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:27.040 so metrosexual? Which we have kind of retired that word, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.359 but your dad fits it perfectly. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.680 Yeah, I guess would you categorize him as like metro 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:33.840 I would. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.120 Say that he definitely cares about the way he looks 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.399 and the way he dresses and his appearance. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.720 For sure. Yeah, would I don't. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.120 I don't know if he can say he's Metro, but 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:51.280 quite possibly, I would say it drew him to. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.680 Hair was his cousin. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.360 I believe it's his cousin, Charles Eifergen, and he started 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.360 kind of working with him and then decided that he 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.480 kind of wanted to go to hair school, and then 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.320 saved up all of his dollars and opened up his 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:06.880 first salon. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.840 So yeah, it's it's a really cool story, uh, to 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.320 see the progress when you when you take your dad 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.200 and your family's life as a whole and see kind 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.040 of how it has gotten to this point that now 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.400 he's on national television. Yeah, we're going to get back 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.200 to kind of the story of all that and how 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.560 you grew up. You're obviously living in Canada now yourself. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.920 What brought you there? That's not where he's living, right. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.720 No, my dad lives in Chicago. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.560 So when my parents separated, my mom continued to work 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.640 at the salon for years. Like they're there. They still 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.720 get along like great to this day. They have a 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:55.240 great like hope parenting relationship. And then my mom wasn't 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.600 working at the salon anymore, and so she's like, I think. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.400 I'm going to go back. My mom's from Canada, so. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.400 Like, I think I'm to go back to Canada with 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.120 my family and stuff like that. And so I moved 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.960 to Canada when I was about eight, and then my 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.320 dad flew me out to Chicago every Friday after school. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.720 Every Sunday, I'd get back on a plane to be 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.000 back at school on Monday. And that happened for probably 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.000 the first two years I lived here. I was a 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.839 very frequent flyer. And then I started like getting friends 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.040 and birthday parties, and I started getting into horses and 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.760 having competitions, and I was like, I don't want to 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.560 go every weekend anymore. And so it kind of started 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.320 like getting slower and slower. And then I went to 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.240 hair school in Chicago. I lived there for about a 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.880 year again and then came back to Canada. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.880 So all right, so I'm very interested on how your 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.800 parents met and what their relationship was like, because that's 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.839 something we didn't get from him on that date. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.760 Yeah, so my parents, Okay, so my mom was actually 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.440 a model and my dad was a hairstylist, and they 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.800 actually just learned the story the other day. They they 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.600 ended up at the same event and he sent one 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.279 of his friends to go talk to my mom and 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.120 she was like no, like whatever, and then somehow she 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.840 ended up giving her his friend her number, and the 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.760 two girls kind of started communicating, and then she passed 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:19.039 along the message to my dad, and my dad was like, 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.880 just come out with me, come out with me, and 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.920 she's like, okay, fine, and then they started dating. They 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.800 moved in together after two months, and they were together 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.360 for about seven or eight years, I. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.960 Believe, so in this time period in their life. Do 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.600 you know how your dad, as a married man, never 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:37.920 did his own laundry. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.640 Uh, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. Like from birth, I 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.080 don't recall him ever doing it. I don't recall him 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.760 ever cooking. The only thing he's actually made, actually I 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.360 have a video of it somewhere, was him actually cooking 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.080 a pasta one night, and I was like, oh my gosh, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:56.760 you use your pots and pants. I thought they were 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.520 just here for show. He's done that and actually makes 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.560 a really good salad dressing. I have to say, those 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.200 are the two things that I've actually seen him kind 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.800 of put together. And this was I think just like 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.000 last year or the year before that, I saw him 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.080 actually use his pots and pans for the first time. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.080 It was like a documenting moment. But no ever since then, 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.960 ever since I was little, we went up for breakfast, lunch, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.520 and dinner, usually a nice dinner every night. He has 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.080 his dinners planned out. He's very organized, even when we 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.960 go on trips, like he pre plans where we're eating dinner. No, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.440 like we always had a housekeeper, Like I remember having 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.520 a nanny and a housekeeper. And he just he's just 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:43.080 never done it. And I think that maybe like since 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.520 he started, maybe like the machines of like the laundry 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.880 machines have changed. He's like this is just too complicated 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.920 now and he just doesn't do it anymore. But yeah, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.320 I know, he's just he's just never done it. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.920 Okay, So the METSPA must be doing very well. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.080 Yeah, he's he's pretty he's pretty successful for sure. It's 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.599 definitely in a pretty high end area in the North 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:12.080 Shorre of Chicago. Yeah, and a lot of his clients, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.840 I would say the people that come to the sun 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.800 are pretty well off and yeah, it's very busy every 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:18.600 time I go in there. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.360 So my dad also has never done his laundry since 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:23.760 they've been married. I'm pretty sure. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.200 Really, Okay, so it's not that weird. Everyone's like freaking out. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:28.680 Oh my god. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.320 I no, I don't think that that's I personally growing 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.840 up the way I did. My dad doesn't touch laundry. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.360 Yeah, like I hear have laundry when I was nineteen, Like, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.600 for the first time, my girlfriend I my launder off 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.960 at my mom's house and she's like, natally, you have 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.960 to stop doing this, like this is embarrassing. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.200 I did the same thing my freshman year of college. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.640 I was like, okay, Mom, I guess you should teach me. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.200 And then I ended up just bringing it home every weekend. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.120 That's what I did. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.800 If only I had known it was so easy to do, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.360 I would have been fine. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.680 So easy, I know, but it's just I just was like, 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.680 oh my god, I'm to ruin something. Or my dad 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.520 always like kind of made it seem kind of scary. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.360 He's like, well, you know, your clothes are gonna drink 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.160 and like like. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.520 I don't know, Like, yeah, my mom has always been 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.200 the one who's like he should dries jeans out of 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.000 the dryer like ings them. So I thought that there 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.679 was like some science to everything, and really I just. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.240 Yeah, it's actually very simple. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.600 As interesting as this is, I do want to talk 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.880 to you, Natalie uh And on the Almost Fumous podcast. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.440 You can always tell us what we're wrong, please, Like 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.400 if I say something here and you're like, no, you're 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.360 actually so far off for sure. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.720 Yeah, I feel like I definitely do that. As it 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:42.439 is with my dad. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.440 Good good, I'm comfortable with that. I am. I am married. 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.440 So's there. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.560 Your dad is an interesting I think he's been compelling 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.319 to me for multiple reasons. One, he is a personality. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.760 The other side of it is it feels like out 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.240 of a lot of the guys, and he's not the 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.880 only one, but it feels I mean, he's definitely one 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:19.400 of a few that came in with just a lot 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.160 of joy I mean, there wasn't this like, you know, hey, 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.080 I'm going to wait to tell you this story moment 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.920 where it's like this has been a pivotal point in 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.360 my life and I'm still trying to get over it 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.720 kind of thing. It's like he didn't have that story. Yeah, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.600 And so it was always a I'm here for a 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.040 different reason. So I wanted to say that and see 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.160 if you agreed or disagreed. And then the question of 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.040 that is, what reason did he even go on this 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.760 show for outside of the obvious of potentially finding love 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:46.200 one day? 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.880 Like what, what do you think is real? 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.400 Like, because Ashley and I've been on the show, one 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.079 person gets picked, you know, it's not the only reason 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.440 you go on the show, So what was it? 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:55.400 Okay? 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.200 So for your first question, I actually just talked to 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.719 him about this yesterday and I was like, I feel like. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.000 You can kind of see it in the show. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.040 I think that she kind of gravitates towards him because 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.199 her dates with him are like lighthearted, do you know 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.960 what I mean? Whereas like some of those other dates 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.200 are so heavy, and you know, at the age that 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.840 all these men are at, you know, some of their wives, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.800 you know, have died, and some of them you know, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.800 like have been through a divorce or two and things 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.680 like that. You know, like they've had all these things 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.600 and maybe they're not over them. And you can see 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.600 that a lot in the show. And I think that 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:34.679 my dad kind of just brings that like lightness out 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.800 kind of in her, and I think that it's really 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.880 nice to see. Like I've talked to many of my 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.840 friends and people who are watching the show and they're like, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.680 they just have fun. So yeah, I definitely have noticed 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.000 that as well. And I was just talking to him 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.400 about that yesterday as well, because I've been obviously watching it. 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:57.840 And for the second question, so, I don't know if 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.120 you guys know what. I signed him up for the 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:04.800 show in januey you know, yeah, so I signed him 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.600 up in January. It was actually really funny. We were 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.800 in Mexico and I was asking all these questions because 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.120 it's a long questionnaire, and I was. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.760 Like, so like who, like what would your ideal date be? 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.040 And then I'm like typing on my phone. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.160 He's like what are you doing? Like what I was like, 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.120 I'm signing up for a show. He's like, what show? 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.240 And then I told him. He's like, you're joking me. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.520 I'm like, nope, we have forty more questions to go. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.000 Let's let's keep moving here. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.960 And so, uh, we were kind of I was showing 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.520 him who the women are and kind of like an 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.880 inclination of you know who I thought was potentially going 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.440 to be the Golden Bacherette, and he actually picked her 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.200 like out of everyone too. He's like, I'm just I'm 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.040 really attracted her. We kind of like did a little 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.880 deep dive on her and he's like, no, he's like that, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.760 like that's her. And so on his first night there 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.960 when he said, I'm telling you, like I wouldn't be 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.400 here if it wasn't you, it's that's one hundred percent true. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.480 He was actually really excited, like he's been really excited 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.320 to you know, get to know her and stuff like that. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.760 So it's been It definitely was her from from the 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:05.679 second he found out. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:06.720 He was excited. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.200 He went through a lot of the process not knowing 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.640 and he was one hundred percent certain about going on 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.400 the show when he actually found out that it was Joan. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:19.240 Gosh, so cute. Well, next week we're seeing hometowns. Were 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.000 you there? I was there, Yeah, so give us a 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.160 little review. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.480 I don't want to say too much, but I definitely 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:36.280 think that she's lovely and as you guys probably saw 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.199 in the previewly curR interaction with my son was absolutely adorable. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.080 My son really liked her, and. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.920 I knew that would have been his grandson because they 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.800 didn't really specify, but I was like, that guy has 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.240 like a look, he's got his hair done perfectly. That 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:58.240 is not to be Pascal's. It's a grandson. Adorable. Yeah, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.440 he's a good looking kid. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:00.880 He's a cutie for sure. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.839 I would say that the hometown I think went pretty 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:12.120 well and I'm excited to see kind of episode. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.280 I guess, have you seen your dad date here in 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.960 the last few years just in real life? 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.800 I wouldn't say, like anything serious. I think that he's 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.560 like casually kind of dated. I think that my dad, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.200 I know that he has like deep down, I know 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.640 he doesn't really talk about on the show. I know 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.280 he does have a little bit of of fear. I 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:40.480 would say, I do think that it doesn't always like 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.280 come out as fear, but I feel like there is 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.800 a little bit of fear just from you know, his 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:53.920 past relationships. I think that his relationships have been very 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.960 like surface level. It's been like a couple of dates 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.120 type thing, never really leading anywhere type relationships. Is kind 0:13:59.960 --> 0:14:04.680 of what I've seen or heard of. Yeah, it's been 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.800 very casual. But I mean the past year and a half, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.920 I have heard him say like I want to find 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.760 that person like I just I want to find that 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.640 person that wants to adventure him at that point in 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.360 my life where like I want a partner that we 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.400 can just like go to Paris and go to Italy 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.640 and go to Africa and go do all these things. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.960 And he wants to have that person that wants the 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.040 same adventure as him. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:31.160 And yeah, from the sounds of Retizan's life, Jones kind 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:31.880 of making the. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.960 Cat Yeah she's down for that. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.720 It's uh so okay, So is it weird to see 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.680 him on TV then taking off his shirt showing uh 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.080 an actually insane amount of abs for a man his age. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.440 Yeah, his abs are definitely circulating the internet at the moment. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.800 Yeah, Like is it weird for you, Like, what does 0:14:54.840 --> 0:15:01.120 it feel like as a child? Yeah, seeing that, Okay, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.800 I'm not having friends probably tell you, hey, like he 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.360 doesn't work out? 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:10.640 Absolutely not. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.000 Yeah, definitely, I was definitely doing a little bit of this. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:22.080 I feel like he's a very funny guy and I 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.600 wouldn't expect any less of him, but I definitely wasn't 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.080 expecting to see so much of that. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.920 Speaking of Yeah, he's very. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:38.680 Confident in who he is and I mean, yeah. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.600 Go dad, Well, we got hometowns coming up, and if 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.440 your dad gets through oh hometowns, Yes, we have hometowns 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.240 coming up, but if he gets through those, we have 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:53.400 the fantasy suites. How how weird awkward is that conversation? 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.480 Did you think this far ahead when you signed him up? 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.640 Honestly, No, I know that my dad's such a big personality, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:02.800 and I knew that it was going to go one 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.760 of two ways. I knew that she was either really 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.360 gonna like like him or she wasn't gonna like him 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.240 at all, and so I wasn't really thinking too far 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.120 ahead with what that was going to look like. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.400 Now that we're almost potentially there. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.080 I'm definitely wondering how that's gonna go. Just even watching 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.880 my dad like make out with her, I'm like, that's 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:31.840 a lot, that's a lot. But no, I I mean, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:34.520 we're just gonna have to see him. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:36.320 It's so good. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.360 I can't you know what I hope for, just after 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.080 meeting you and just the way you shine and the 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.720 way you're handling this. I hope because this is how 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.520 I am as a human. I hope we see them 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:53.480 that morning scene where they're both like cook a coffee 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.200 and I just want to. I'm going to watch it 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.040 and think, Oh, Natalie's watching this too, and she hates this, and. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.880 I think, you know, all assuming that he makes it 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.800 that far, Yeah, the assumption has to be there. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.080 Yeah, I mean I think that now that we're kind 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.280 of getting down to the wire, I think people are 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:16.159 really starting to think about who that last person's going to, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.520 because I mean, there's not many guys left, and after Hometowns, 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.280 it's really down to the final wire. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.720 So we'll have to see how she goes. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.760 One storyline that I was curious about that didn't that 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.360 hasn't got talked about, but I thought it was really 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.240 sweet and I do think it was a moment for Mark, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:49.000 but it was also a moment for your dad. I know. Well, yeah, 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.600 like your dad says, he was my best friend. You know, 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.160 Mark's obviously gone from the show. No matter what happens 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.399 with your dad. Have they kept in contact? You know, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.280 we have friendships that last from this show. We Asha 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.000 and I both have that ourselves. Does it feel did 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.399 it like what made them connect so much? And have 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:06.960 they talked? 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.879 My dad definitely has stayed in contact with some of 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.520 the guys, for sure. There was an article that Greg 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.520 wrote saying that they're all planned. They're going to plan 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.480 like this big trip, like all like the guys, and 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.119 they're all excited to hang out outside of the show. 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.640 I think with Mark they had a lot of really 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.479 in depth conversations. And I think that my dad has 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.720 a really tough time being vulnerable, and he actually says 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.720 that in the show. And I think that Mark is 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.520 just such like a calming presence. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:39.360 To him that he. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.200 Kind of opened up a lot to Mark, and Mark 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.679 definitely opened up a lot to him. And yeah, I 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.320 think he was He was very sad to see him. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.800 Go oh, I was so sad and yet so sweet. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.440 I know, I'm going to say, I've never seen my 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.919 dad cry in thirty three years. I've never seen him cry. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.280 So to see him cry on the show, I was like, what. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:02.920 Over Mars elimination? 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.600 Yeah, I was like, oh my god, that's so sweet. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.240 That's what makes this show so good is that there 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:10.680 is the relationships between men. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:11.480 I know. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.760 So, your dad had a conversation with Joan a couple 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.600 of weeks ago where she felt like he wasn't pursuing 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.560 her enough on a group date. How did you feel 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.040 about that? 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.760 Yeah, so I mean, I know my dad, and I 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.919 know he's not aggressive. He's just not like that. And 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.080 I know that, Like we kind of talked about it 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.840 before the show. I asked him kind of like what 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.480 he was thinking, Like, it's he's gonna like I mean, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.119 he was the first person to grab her, which I 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.199 was like, wow, well the first night, but he's like, 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.679 I'm just He's like, I'm just not an aggressive personality 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.679 like that. He's like, I'm just not going to be 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.720 the one kind of trying to take up all of 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.919 her attention. And so I think that that's kind of 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.800 where he was going with that. He's just like, I 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:53.720 am who I am, and we're going to get time 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.800 to talk, but I'm not gonna be like talking the 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.200 last episode, he's like, I'm just not gonna hover and 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.560 I'm just gonna kind of let her have her time 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.680 and then when we get time to get time type thing. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.720 And I know that's kind of been his approach the 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.959 whole time. I think now you saw him saying, well, 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:11.639 you didn't even let anyone else talk to her, And 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.800 now it's kind of getting real where he's like, okay, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.760 like everyone, we need to all like be on the 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.920 same page here. Everyone needs time with her type thing, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.000 like we're getting down to the wire and we need 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:21.600