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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is Almost Famous Podcast.

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Speaker 3: We have a very special episode today, a very unique episode,

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Speaker 3: something we don't get to do very often, right because

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Speaker 3: there's only one show that we can really do it

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Speaker 3: with in this kind of format. Ashley, tell all of

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Speaker 3: our listeners who we have today.

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Speaker 4: We have Natalie who is Pascal's daughter, and we have

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Speaker 4: her here today to give us all the deeds about

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Speaker 4: her dad. Listen, we are so compelled by him, so

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Speaker 4: we're so excited to know what it was like growing

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Speaker 4: up with him and how he uses a dad. So

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Speaker 4: can we start with like day one, the.

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Speaker 5: Day one from birth?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to say growing up with him is

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Speaker 6: he honestly was like the best dad. He is very energetic,

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Speaker 6: as you guys can tell. So we were always doing things.

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Speaker 6: We went to every Disney on Ice show. Obviously, my

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Speaker 6: hair was always pristine. Was actually the one to always

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Speaker 6: do my hair in those cute little butterfly clips and

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Speaker 6: those tight cute ponytails.

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Speaker 5: He was a great dad growing up.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, your dad owns a salon? Is it a medspo?

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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, okay, it.

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Speaker 3: Is Okay, hold up, I need to pause you there though.

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Speaker 3: Is it multiple because we don't have to get into

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Speaker 3: his personal finances or how you two have lived in

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Speaker 3: the world, But at least from the first couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: it would seem that this medspa has done very well

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Speaker 5: It has done very well.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he started with one downtown, so that's the one

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Speaker 6: that he had when I was younger.

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Speaker 5: Then yes, in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Then he opened another one in the suburb, and then

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Speaker 6: he closed both of those and then opened a big one,

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Speaker 6: and then he started to kind of branch out and

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Speaker 6: then realized that he didn't really want to franchise, and

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Speaker 6: now he just has the one and he's like semi

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Speaker 4: So so did he start out as a hair stylist?

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Speaker 5: He started sweeping the floors?

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Speaker 4: Actually amazing, that's right. He told us that on the

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Speaker 4: one episode, the one date.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was an assistant.

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Speaker 4: What drew him to esthetics? And has he always been

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Speaker 4: so metrosexual? Which we have kind of retired that word,

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Speaker 4: but your dad fits it perfectly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess would you categorize him as like metro

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 6: Say that he definitely cares about the way he looks

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Speaker 6: and the way he dresses and his appearance.

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Speaker 5: For sure. Yeah, would I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if he can say he's Metro, but

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Speaker 6: quite possibly, I would say it drew him to.

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Speaker 5: Hair was his cousin.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's his cousin, Charles Eifergen, and he started

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Speaker 6: kind of working with him and then decided that he

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Speaker 6: saved up all of his dollars and opened up his

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's a really cool story, uh, to

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Speaker 3: see the progress when you when you take your dad

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Speaker 3: to kind of the story of all that and how

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Speaker 3: you grew up. You're obviously living in Canada now yourself.

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Speaker 2: What brought you there? That's not where he's living, right.

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Speaker 5: No, my dad lives in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: So when my parents separated, my mom continued to work

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Speaker 6: at the salon for years. Like they're there. They still

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Speaker 5: I'm going to go back. My mom's from Canada, so.

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Speaker 6: Like, I think I'm to go back to Canada with

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Speaker 4: So all right, so I'm very interested on how your

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Speaker 4: something we didn't get from him on that date.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so my parents, Okay, so my mom was actually

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Speaker 6: actually just learned the story the other day. They they

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Speaker 6: along the message to my dad, and my dad was like,

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Speaker 6: she's like, okay, fine, and then they started dating. They

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Speaker 6: moved in together after two months, and they were together

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Speaker 6: for about seven or eight years, I.

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Speaker 3: Believe, so in this time period in their life. Do

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Speaker 3: you know how your dad, as a married man, never

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Speaker 6: Uh, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. Like from birth, I

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Speaker 6: don't recall him ever doing it. I don't recall him

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Speaker 6: ever cooking. The only thing he's actually made, actually I

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Speaker 6: you use your pots and pants. I thought they were

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Speaker 6: just here for show. He's done that and actually makes

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Speaker 6: a really good salad dressing. I have to say, those

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Speaker 6: last year or the year before that, I saw him

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Speaker 6: It was like a documenting moment. But no ever since then,

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Speaker 6: ever since I was little, we went up for breakfast, lunch,

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Speaker 6: his dinners planned out. He's very organized, even when we

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Speaker 6: go on trips, like he pre plans where we're eating dinner. No,

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Speaker 6: like we always had a housekeeper, Like I remember having

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Speaker 6: machines have changed. He's like this is just too complicated

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Speaker 6: I know, he's just he's just never done it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the METSPA must be doing very well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's pretty he's pretty successful for sure. It's

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Speaker 6: definitely in a pretty high end area in the North

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Speaker 6: I would say the people that come to the sun

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Speaker 4: So my dad also has never done his laundry since

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Speaker 4: they've been married. I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 6: Really, Okay, so it's not that weird. Everyone's like freaking out.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I no, I don't think that that's I personally growing

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like I hear have laundry when I was nineteen, Like,

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Speaker 6: at my mom's house and she's like, natally, you have

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Speaker 6: to stop doing this, like this is embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: I did the same thing my freshman year of college.

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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, Mom, I guess you should teach me.

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Speaker 4: And then I ended up just bringing it home every weekend.

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Speaker 5: That's what I did.

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Speaker 4: If only I had known it was so easy to do,

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Speaker 6: So easy, I know, but it's just I just was like,

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Speaker 6: oh my god, I'm to ruin something. Or my dad

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Speaker 6: always like kind of made it seem kind of scary.

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Speaker 6: He's like, well, you know, your clothes are gonna drink

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, yeah, my mom has always been

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Speaker 4: was like some science to everything, and really I just.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually very simple.

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Speaker 3: As interesting as this is, I do want to talk

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Speaker 3: to you, Natalie uh And on the Almost Fumous podcast.

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Speaker 3: You can always tell us what we're wrong, please, Like

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Speaker 3: if I say something here and you're like, no, you're

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Speaker 3: actually so far off for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I definitely do that. As it

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Speaker 2: Good good, I'm comfortable with that. I am. I am married.

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Speaker 3: Your dad is an interesting I think he's been compelling

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Speaker 3: to me for multiple reasons. One, he is a personality.

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Speaker 3: The other side of it is it feels like out

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Speaker 3: of joy I mean, there wasn't this like, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: kind of thing. It's like he didn't have that story. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so it was always a I'm here for a

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Speaker 3: different reason. So I wanted to say that and see

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Speaker 3: if you agreed or disagreed. And then the question of

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Speaker 3: that is, what reason did he even go on this

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Speaker 3: show for outside of the obvious of potentially finding love

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Speaker 3: one day?

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Speaker 2: Like what, what do you think is real?

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Speaker 3: Like, because Ashley and I've been on the show, one

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Speaker 3: person gets picked, you know, it's not the only reason

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Speaker 3: you go on the show, So what was it?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 6: So for your first question, I actually just talked to

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Speaker 5: You can kind of see it in the show.

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Speaker 6: I think that she kind of gravitates towards him because

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Speaker 6: her dates with him are like lighthearted, do you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean? Whereas like some of those other dates

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Speaker 6: are so heavy, and you know, at the age that

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Speaker 6: all these men are at, you know, some of their wives,

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Speaker 6: you know, have died, and some of them you know,

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Speaker 6: like have been through a divorce or two and things

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Speaker 6: like that. You know, like they've had all these things

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Speaker 6: and maybe they're not over them. And you can see

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Speaker 6: that a lot in the show. And I think that

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Speaker 6: my dad kind of just brings that like lightness out

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Speaker 6: nice to see. Like I've talked to many of my

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Speaker 5: And yeah, from the sounds of Retizan's life, Jones kind

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Speaker 3: It's uh so okay, So is it weird to see

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his abs are definitely circulating the internet at the moment.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, I was definitely doing a little bit of this.

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Speaker 4: Go dad, Well, we got hometowns coming up, and if

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Speaker 4: the fantasy suites. How how weird awkward is that conversation?

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Speaker 6: Honestly, No, I know that my dad's such a big personality,

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 3: I can't you know what I hope for, just after

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Speaker 4: That's what makes this show so good is that there

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Speaker 4: So, your dad had a conversation with Joan a couple

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Speaker 3: honestly with when it comes to saying no, you know what,

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Speaker 4: My last question for you is your dad has such

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Speaker 4: a rags to riches story. He talked about how you know,

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Speaker 4: his father said you can get a pair of new

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Speaker 4: shoes once you've earned the money to buy it. And

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Speaker 4: he moved to America. He obviously did very well for himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: is your grandpa still around and how did they feel

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Speaker 4: about No about.

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Speaker 6: Your grandpa did pass away. My Grandma's still alive. I

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Speaker 6: actually haven't asked him if he told her about any

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Speaker 6: of this. But my next question, like his grandma watching

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Speaker 6: this because like hopefully you'll have a heart of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so she's still alive. Actually went and visited her and

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Speaker 6: some of my family in Paris a couple of years

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Speaker 6: ago as my sister. But no, my grandpa is not

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Speaker 6: alive anymore. I think that you know my dad's story still,

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Speaker 6: it kind of makes me tear up to this day

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Speaker 6: a little bit. I think that he definitely has come

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Speaker 6: a long way and he's definitely made something of him

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Speaker 6: and he hasn't he hasn't he hasn't come from like

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Speaker 6: he's come from nothing basically, and just kind of seeing

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Speaker 6: where he is today is like a huge inspiration to

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Speaker 6: me and hopefully to a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Natalie closed us out here. Obviously, we've talked about your

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Speaker 3: dad a lot. We've talked about how great he is,

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Speaker 3: how great he was to you, is to you, all

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Speaker 3: those things. A little bit about Joan, just to close

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Speaker 3: us out here, as you've watched Joan on this journey

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Speaker 3: through her kind of struggles moving on from the past,

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Speaker 3: but also excitement towards the future, her curiosity towards your dad,

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Speaker 3: do you still believe they could be a great match.

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Speaker 3: You just said it earlier, but about Joan specifically, do

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Speaker 3: you think she would make a great match for your dad.

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Speaker 6: I do, and obviously after meeting her, I feel strongly

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Speaker 6: about that. I feel like she definitely has a young spirit,

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Speaker 6: and I think that that's kind of what my dad's

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Speaker 6: looking for.

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Speaker 5: I think she presents herself well. She's a very classy lady,

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Speaker 5: which my dad said.

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Speaker 6: I think she, you know, is family oriented, she has grandkids,

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Speaker 6: and I feel like she's looking for adventure and someone

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Speaker 6: who's just gonna not make her forget her husband necessarily,

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Speaker 6: but just like make her how do I word that,

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Speaker 6: I feel like, just make her kind of bring like

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Speaker 6: that happiness back out and make her feel.

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Speaker 5: Like it's possible to fall in love again.

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Speaker 6: And I do think that their relationships just not very

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Speaker 6: not very heavy, and it's lighthearted, and I think that's

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Speaker 6: maybe what's she's looking for as someone just to kind

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Speaker 6: of have fun with and enjoy the rest of her

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Speaker 6: life with. So I think that they are a good fit,

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Speaker 6: and I think Joan is a good fit for my dad.

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Speaker 6: So we'll have to see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Your dad is definitely somebody you can have a good

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Speaker 3: time with.

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Speaker 6: That's obvious anytime, any place, with anyone's He's just a

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Speaker 6: good time guy, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Will tell him to come on theban and Ashley, I

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Speaker 4: almost heard the podcast before any other.

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Speaker 5: I will for sure.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get that written down.

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Speaker 3: Natalie, You've been great. Thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 3: on and talking about your dad and giving us more

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Speaker 3: of a perspective about who he is. I learned a

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Speaker 3: lot just from you, and it like it uncovered a

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Speaker 3: little bit of the pieces that we don't get to

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Speaker 3: see from the show. Thanks for signing him up. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for sharing them with all of us. I hope he

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Speaker 3: has his shirt off multiple more times as the season

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Speaker 3: progress progresses. Enjoy the ride, and we cannot wait to

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Speaker 3: talk to you again. And hopefully it is maybe you

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Speaker 3: and your dad and Joan. That would be a really cool.

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Speaker 5: Podcast, Yes, yes, it would.

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Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see the interaction between him

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Speaker 4: and your group and your son.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, all of us together, it'll be It'll be

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Speaker 6: a good episode next week for sure.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, thank you guys so much. It was

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Speaker 5: nice to meet you guys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, bye, that's been Natalie Pascal's daughter who signed him

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Speaker 3: up for the show an almost famous podcast. That was

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Speaker 3: a fun interview, I think Ashley, because we got such

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Speaker 3: a perspective on Pascal. I'm rooting for him right now

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Speaker 3: like he already was. But I really want to see

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Speaker 3: them together.

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Speaker 4: You know, I kind of feel you, especially because I

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Speaker 4: think Chock was a little bit aggressed. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how I felt about Shock after this last episode. So

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Speaker 4: now I'm like Jim Pascal.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's what this whole show's about, right, it's

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Speaker 3: now kind of figuring out that what we kind of

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Speaker 3: want for Joan and these relationships. But I think she

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Speaker 3: made a good point in this next chapel. Yeah, in

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Speaker 3: this next chapter of your life, you know what you've

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Speaker 3: gone through, the heavy, You've done so much stuff. All

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Speaker 3: you want is somebody willing to travel to see grandkids,

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Speaker 3: somebody wanted willing to travel to make memories. Somebody's gonna

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Speaker 3: have fun with you and take you out to dinner

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Speaker 3: and have a great dinner together. It sounds like he

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Speaker 3: could be that, and I now am full on team Pascal.

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Speaker 4: I know it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Hey, so we'll be breaking down the next week's episode

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Speaker 3: after hometowns. Obviously, Natalie will be on that episode, So

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Speaker 3: until next time, I've Been Ben.

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Speaker 4: I've Been Ansley.

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