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Speaker 1: super lighthearted guy. Um, and it's just kind of like

429
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: a completely different side of him that I feel like

430
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: a lot of like fans and stuff don't don't actually see.

431
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: But um, it looks like he has a bright future

432
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: ahead of him, so I'm sure it'll start coming out more.

433
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: First of all, Buck, from Chase's standpoint, impressive to me

434
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: that not not an ounce of jealousy. And I mean

435
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: I believe him. They're growing up in a household with

436
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: a guy who's really he's famous. I mean as a

437
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: high schooler, he's famous in your town as well as nationally. Um.

438
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: But again, I think it's just a very rooted, grounded,

439
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: uh you know, atmosphere and home that Trevor Lawrence grew

440
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: up in. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think it's very supportive. Actually,

441
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: UM believe at his brother's path, a different path as

442
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: a sculptor and artist, may have helped Trevor. May helped

443
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: Trevor when he talks about tapping into that creativity and

444
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of forging your own path. I think it is

445
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: a unique thing. But I think Chase gave great insight

446
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: into Trevor and how Trevor was competitive and kind of

447
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: how he was almost like a man amongst boys from

448
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: the time that he was very very little, and all

449
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: the attention that he had on him for his athletic exploits,

450
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: and once again how it didn't really impact him, it

451
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: didn't change who he was as a person. Now, this

452
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: next guest, you might ask, why in the world are

453
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: we going to talk to the mayor of Cartersville. Uh, Well,

454
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: because he was also the uh he was a guy

455
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: who was calling the games for the local radio station,

456
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: so he called Trevor Lawrences games. Uh and Buck. You

457
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with Matt Santini. Trevor's gonna

458
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: roll to his right. I'm third down looking to throw

459
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: under a little bit of pressure. Now he's gonna stop.

460
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: He's gonna run to his left, and he's gonna float

461
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: it to the end zone. He's got a man out there.

462
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: D J. Turner, did you get in about touchdown? Want

463
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: a plate by Trevor Proud to have the mayor of Cartersville,

464
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: Georgia and also radio broadcaster at w b h F

465
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: in Georgia, Matt Santini, thanks for joining the MCS podcast.

466
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: How you doing? Thank you, Bucky. Pleasure to be with

467
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: you talk about one of our hometown heroes, uh And

468
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: speaking of uh hometown here were obviously Trevor Lawrence is

469
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: a big deal down there. But before we get to that,

470
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: I want to know how do you jogo duties of

471
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: being the mayor of the town and also the play

472
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: buff plate voice of the high school games at the

473
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: high school. Well, that is a great question. The mayor's

474
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: position in Cartersville is a part time position. We have

475
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: a city manager form of government, so I get to

476
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: manage the meetings, be involved a lot of economic development

477
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: and policy issues. I'm not responsible for all the day

478
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: to day operations. Unfortunately, we've got a professional for that.

479
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: Running the radio station gets tricky sometimes. For instance, that

480
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: new car I'm driving. We will not do a story

481
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: on all the money that's missing from city hall. That's

482
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: pretty funny there may Obviously everyone is excited about Trevor Lawrence.

483
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is celebrated in that hometown. But let's

484
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: go all the way back. What was it like the

485
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: first time that you saw Trevor Lawrence. You know, the

486
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: story to Trevor really begins before he was even in

487
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: high school. People were talking about this eighth grade kid.

488
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: And Carter's Well has a very storied football program, and

489
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: so they've had success, and so it's nothing to see

490
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: kids come through and have a great deal of success.

491
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: But when you know, you hear about this eighth grader

492
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: that's gonna be coming up and plays quarterback and might

493
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: potentially be this fantastic player it was, you know, you

494
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: get kind of skeptical and you'll be real careful about

495
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: trying to over promote you know, thirteen or fourteen year

496
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: old kids, they are actually that just kids. But it

497
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: didn't take long that it was that first year where

498
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: he was a freshman, he was rotating quarterback duties with

499
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Miller forrest All who went on to play at Alabama,

500
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was the second game, it

501
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: really was, when they were playing North cob They actually

502
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: ended up losing the football game, but Miller had gotten

503
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: hurt and so the keys were really turned over to

504
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Trevor at that point. They lost the game by one,

505
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't for lack of any effort on his

506
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: He played a fantastic game and from there he just

507
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: kind of knew that there was something special about this kid.

508
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: And from there he just kind of took off and

509
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: it was really amazing. The arm strength and the where

510
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: he places the football from from the time he was

511
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: a freshman early in the season was was just remarkable. Yeah,

512
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: it has to be in common to see a young

513
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: guy handle the responsibility to be in the starting quarterback

514
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: on varsity with the level of I don't know, precision

515
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: and production that uh Trevor was able to do. So

516
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: what are some of the highlights that you can remember

517
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence's high school career. I look back at

518
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: his really his sophomore year. There were a lot of

519
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: great accomplishments there. The state championship game, a game that

520
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: Carter's role on only tend to nothing. It wasn't a

521
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: great statistical game, but his leadership was was very evident.

522
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: And you know, it's the thing that I've told people

523
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: from the very beginning. You see the long hair and

524
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: you think, oh, he's he doesn't everybody calls him sunshine,

525
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, try to relate to to remember the Titans.

526
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: I've told people since before he left Carter's belt. It's like, man,

527
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: the thing that people forget about or they miss on him.

528
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: He's faster than you think he is. He's deceptively elusive,

529
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and he likes contact a lot more than people think.

530
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: He has always been a super competitor, a super leader,

531
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: and and again a level of toughness that goes I

532
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: think still kind of underrated. You know, it's funny because

533
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: you talk about those trades, I believe, Uh, humility is

534
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: a trade that is also associated with Trevor Lawrence. Uh.

535
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any examples of how humble Trevor Lawrence

536
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: is despite all the accolades that have come his way.

537
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: I can probably talk more about that seeing what he's

538
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: done and the person he is off the field than

539
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: I can on the field. Um, you know, I'd look

540
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: at the fact that on Fridays he would go to

541
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: the elementary school and visit with with kids who just

542
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: wanted to see him and meet him. I remember going

543
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: out to a local restaurant and he was there with

544
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: his girlfriend now fiance soon to be wife, uh, enjoying lunch,

545
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: and there were adults coming up to him wanting to

546
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: try to talk to him. And I also saw a

547
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: number of other high school players that obviously weren't nearly

548
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: as good as him, who were acting like they were

549
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: a lot better than uh. You know. They had that

550
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: high school attitude, you know, just acting like here I am,

551
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm a high school football player, and look at look

552
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: at me. And and he just sat there quietly in

553
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: the corner and was eating his lunch and being respectful

554
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: to everybody. I think about really his time at Clemson.

555
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: There's a young man here who had a heart transplant,

556
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: had an unexpected heart issue, and and Trevor, you know,

557
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: really snuck back into town I say he came home,

558
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of fanfare and came to visit

559
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: the the young man who uh, you know, just to

560
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: bring him a jersey and tell him these things going

561
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: about him. It's it's those types of things that really

562
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: stand out to me with the person that Trevor Lawrence is.

563
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: It's it's really the things off the field. And I've

564
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: said it, there's a lot of adults that can learn

565
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: how to behave as a good human being from this

566
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: very young man. Yeah, there are a lot of people

567
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: that can learn a lot of different things from Trevor Lawrence.

568
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: You talked about his personality, his humility, the leadership ability,

569
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of people that are really

570
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: fascinated by the talent. So you have to tell me

571
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: about this this this throw that I keep hearing about.

572
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: It's called the throw versus Mary Peterson in the playoffs

573
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: to semifinals back in ten. What am I missing? Tell

574
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: me about the throw? It just came, uh, coming off

575
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: that big win on the road against Woodward Academy. They

576
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: were at home. Yeah, I had to feel good about it,

577
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: and right out of the gate, Cartersville was down fourteen

578
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: and nothing. There was a very rare turnover and and

579
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: touchdown and and then another quick touchdown. So there's Carter'sville

580
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: playing at home, down fourteen and nothing. He leads them

581
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: down the field and uh it was I can't remember

582
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: the down, but I remember him just rolling to his right, uh,

583
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: and everybody was covered. He he pumped faked uh the quarter.

584
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: The linebacker jumps in there. He does a total spin

585
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: around and turns to his left, throws it across the field,

586
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: and drops it right over the shoulder of a receiver

587
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: on the other side of the field. Uh, and got

588
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: got his foot in bounds and it was a touchdown.

589
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: And from there they they went on and won that game. Uh,

590
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: rather largely after that. But again, down fourteen and nothing.

591
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Had the had the presence to make this great athletic play,

592
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure as one of a ton of highlight plays

593
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: that he made during his time at cards Field. Are

594
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: there any of the highlight players that stand out to you? Well,

595
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: I think from a highlight perspective. I'll tell you the

596
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: thing that that sticks out in my mind is enjoying

597
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: watching him play at Clemson. It was one of the

598
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: first nationally televised games that he was on and watching

599
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the announcers. He was having a big game. I can't

600
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: remember the on it, but listening to the announcers towards

601
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: the end of the game, trying to come up with

602
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: something different to say, and trying to come up words

603
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: to describe what he was doing. And I remember putting

604
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: out on social media said I'm enjoying watching that. I

605
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: had to come up with four years worth of of

606
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: words to try to describe what this guy is doing.

607
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: And they were having trouble getting through one college football

608
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: game with it. That's that's part of the That's part

609
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: of what I'll remember the most. U. The other part

610
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: that I remember is there's a local team up here

611
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: that their student run twitter site decided that they were

612
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: going to try to talk a little bit of trash

613
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: about coming into town and you know, getting some revenge

614
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: for a big game that Carter's will had won rather

615
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: handily the year before. And Trevor, Uh, they tweeted at

616
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: him and that wasn't a good thing to do. And

617
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's real responsible on social media too, and

618
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: he just tweeted out two words, wrong move. And shortly

619
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: after that their Twitter account apologized and Uh. After that

620
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: they came to Cartersville. Actually it was we went up

621
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: to Carter's to Calhoun and won that game by account

622
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: of fifty eight to six. It was over. Yeah, obviously

623
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to poke the bear. But let's talk

624
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: about the town. How does the town feel about Trevor

625
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Lawrence and all that he has become since he's left

626
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: high school. You know, it's a it's a double edged

627
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: sword for me in a good way. I mean, he

628
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: is he has put Cartersville in the spotlight. Certainly. We're

629
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: a very proud community of over twenty thousand people. We've

630
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: got we're the home of Ronnie Brown who enjoyed success

631
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Andre Fluellen who did as well, and

632
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: both great young men who have contributed back to the community.

633
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: Uh in our county. We also have Vic Beasley who

634
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: was a little bit north of here who's enjoyed time

635
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL and again giving back to the community.

636
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Great people as in addition, but you know, Carter's Ville

637
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: had the opportunity, because of Trevor Lawrence, to be on

638
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: ESPN and play a football game in our home stadium

639
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: and to spotlight our community on ESPN or you know,

640
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: and anywhere nationally. A couple of years ago, there was

641
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: an ad campaign for Adidas that featured Cartersville's football uniforms

642
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: on there. It wasn't our players, but it was our

643
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: uniforms and the level of of attention that we have

644
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: gotten in positive attention because of Trevor Lawrence. There's kids, Listen,

645
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: there's been kids in this town when when Trevor was

646
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: still here, where where a number sixteen purple jerseys. Now

647
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: everybody's been wearing you know, purple excuse me, orange number

648
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: sixteen jerseys. And unless something really really strange happened of

649
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: biblical proportions, there's gonna be a lot of teal sixteen

650
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: jerseys being worn around Cartersville. And I'll probably buy one myself.

651
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh man, well, I know. It's an exciting time. It's

652
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: an exciting time for Trevor Lawrence. It's an exciting time

653
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: for everyone in to Cartersville. Georgia, Mayor Mass and Tinny

654
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining the Movie six podcast. Thanks

655
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Bucky Buck. That was awesome. Man. I'm glad you've got

656
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: a chance to visit with him. Uh again, people knew

657
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence is an eighth grader I mean, so

658
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: when we talk about, you know, expectation and what the

659
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: expectation could be at the next level, this kid's been

660
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: dealing with expectations since he was thirteen fourteen years old. Yeah,

661
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: and and I think there that's something too, being comfortable

662
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: being in the spotlight. We always talked about franchise quarterbacks

663
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: and all of the stuff that comes along with the

664
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: responsibilities to increase attention and scrutiny. What Trevor Lawrence has

665
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: been dealing with that literally since seven and eighth grade.

666
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: Uh to step up in Cartersville, and even though we

667
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: can talk about it being a small town football was

668
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: big to handle that pressure, to handle the responsibility to

669
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: beat out Um, a player who was older, and then

670
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: to continue to keep Cartersville winning at a high level.

671
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: Speaks volumes about who Trevor Lawrence is and and why

672
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: there's so many Scots to really love what he could

673
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: be at the next level, no doubt. H Well, I

674
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: mentioned him a little bit earlier and visiting with Trent

675
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Dilfer up there at the at the opening the Elite

676
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: eleven event that you're a part of buck Um. But

677
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: to get some more thoughts on Trevor Lawrence from Trent.

678
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I thought was something we had to do here with

679
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: this three sixty episode. You had a chance to visit

680
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: with our buddy Trent Dilford. Obviously, this is a fun

681
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: time for us because I feel like we get a

682
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: chance to see these young quarterbacks grow up in front

683
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: of our eyes. And so what I would like to

684
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: do is go back to seventeen. Two of the top

685
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: guys that came through the process process Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields.

686
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: Let's start with Trevor Lawrence. When you first laid eyes

687
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence, what did you think? I think he

688
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: was a sophomore freshman in high school. I can't remember, uh,

689
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: And I just said, well, I mean, here was a

690
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: kid that already was mature beyond his years. Obviously was

691
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: a great athlete, but was also pretty clean. You'd have

692
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: been coached very well in Georgia by Joey King. Uh

693
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: had developed well, had played a lot of seven on seven,

694
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: and already had played a lot of football at the

695
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: varsity level. So uh, he he looked like a man

696
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: even when he was fifteen, sixteen years old, and as

697
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: he went through the level process, he only grew bigger

698
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: and stronger and more powerful and honed his craft. And

699
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: but the thing I always the story I always say

700
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: about Trevor isn't the physical stuff. It's the mental stuff.

701
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: It's the competitive stuff. I remember at the opening, Uh,

702
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: there he was there. Uh he was a sponge with

703
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Craig Noll, one of our coaches who played seven years

704
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you know, was bugging him late

705
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: at night, going into his room after hours and asked

706
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: him to teach him more ball. This is a kid

707
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: that loves football. He loves to learn. He has zero

708
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: entitlement to him. He has no ego as the team

709
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: above self guy, So he checks every single box there

710
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: is to check as a prospect, and he was checking

711
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: it back when he was seventeen years old. I mean

712
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I remember seeing watching him at the opening saying, this

713
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: guy could go to an NFL training camp right now,

714
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: uh and throw one on one throw routes on air

715
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: and look like an NFL quarterback. You know, it's funny

716
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: that you you talked about that. I just think to

717
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: remember that he got tough for him a little bit

718
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: at at the opening um in the finals, what did

719
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: you discover and watching him go through some adversity. Uh,

720
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: as a young person. Well, that's the biggest thing I

721
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: look for, to be clute, honest with you a lot.

722
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: I based a lot of my evaluations off how they

723
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: respond to setback. Uh. We look at it in game

724
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: with an acronym pace plays after critical blares, Uh, study

725
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: that really hard. And then in that environment a camp environment,

726
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: or in a high school football game environment, a practice

727
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: environment off the field, a guy, can you be a

728
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: knucklehead off the field, And how's it respond to that

729
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: after the facts? So I think it's I think that

730
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: metric or that evaluation has a lot to do with

731
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: their long term success because you're gonna have a lot

732
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: of setbacks, You're gonna have a lot of adversity. Uh.

733
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: And it's it's not what happened to you, it's how

734
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: you respond to it. And and Trevors a guy that

735
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: whether it was the opening, whether it was not winning

736
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: the final game of his high school career, whether it

737
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: was a setback at Clemson, he's always been a guy

738
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: that bounces back better the next opportunity of me. And

739
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: that's really what you're looking for me. Tom Brady's doing

740
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions, He's lost a lot of games.

741
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: He's had a lot of stinkers, He's had a lot

742
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: of bad series. I think what separates him is that

743
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: relentless pursuit of the next opportunity. Uh, and that's why

744
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: he's been at his best for twenty one years in

745
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: those situations. Yeah, I mean kind of echoed what what

746
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: he had said to me, right Buck, I mean, this

747
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: does looks like an NFL quarterback as a as a

748
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: high schooler. He did. And Trent talked about the adversity

749
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that Trevor faced during that event, and I would say,

750
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: having competed against Trevor doing that event, Uh, it was

751
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: difficult for him because it had been very, very easy

752
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: for him to dominate. And it's the first time that

753
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I would say the playing field is level, and so

754
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: to see Trevor have some struggles, but to see the resiliency,

755
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: the toughness, to grit and determination where he was able

756
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: to bounce back and finish off strong. Um. Once again,

757
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: when you're evaluating quarterbacks, you're always looking at how did

758
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: they respond to bad things that event Trent kind of

759
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: talked about. But but Trent kind of saw some of

760
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: those things that we all see and we all like

761
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: about him, his building his toughness, because I think that

762
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: toughness comes out in a few different occasions. You no doubt. Um,

763
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: our next guest here is somebody that's known Trevor again

764
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: going all the way back to seventh grade. Um, so

765
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: we're getting some some some really good looks at Trevor

766
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Lawrence from different angles here. Uh, this is a Ron Veale,

767
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: who is a private quarterback coach against work with Trevor

768
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: lawrencens middle school all the way through high school. And

769
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: we had a chance to visit with Ron. The first

770
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: time that you met Trevor, when was that? And uh,

771
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: and tell us a little bit about that one. Well,

772
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: the first time I met him was at a football

773
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: camp around the age well high school, I mean middle school,

774
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: Romalls seventh grade. He came out to account, Um, long

775
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: and lanky, and one of the parents and introduced me

776
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: to him. And that's how I started, you know, and

777
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: thinking about him being long and lanky, coach, how are

778
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: you able to build up his mechanics so he was

779
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: able to come such an efficient pass or at the

780
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: high school? Love, I really think that it was, Um,

781
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: it was already there. He was more bottoms up guy.

782
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Why you would work on his footwork because his delivery

783
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: was already there. We just cleaned up a little bit

784
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: as he as he matured and his body caught up

785
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: to his age and his growth. But for as like

786
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: to run the ball that was already there. I was

787
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: just I think he's just a natural, no doubt coach.

788
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: When you when you look at Trevor, we see it.

789
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: You know. We saw in the Ohio State game in

790
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when he took off and ran. Um, just

791
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: the example of the athlete that he is. Lawrence took

792
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: a pitch out field, had a lot of world he

793
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: rigs to tackle and is still running ords in the

794
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: fun rance. Well they catch him touched the Tigers. Wow, hey,

795
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: game change he playing. Is there a moment during your

796
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: time training with him, working out with him that uh,

797
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: that kind of jumped out to you just as overall athleticism. Yeah,

798
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: you know he played baseball as well, so he was

799
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: well around the athlete. He was always athletic. And the

800
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: drills that we would do for us, like his movements

801
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: in the pocket, getting out, throwing the ball of the run,

802
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: so those things were there. I just didn't know he

803
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: was that fast. Um when he ran away from those

804
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: guys on Ohio State. He showed great length and he

805
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground. You know, coach, you talk

806
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: about the athleticism, one of the things that Trevor is

807
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: known for is his competitiveness. When you've been working with him,

808
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: have you seen the examples or do you have examples

809
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: of when that competitive fire has come out? Yeah? I

810
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: think he's more of a perfectionist with the competitiveness. Every

811
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: ball has to be in a great place for him. Um,

812
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: that didn't feel right, didn't come up right. Um. He

813
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: always worked on his craft for us, like timing and anticipation.

814
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: So I think that competitive edge is always there, especially

815
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: in the game. I think everybody see how he looks

816
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: and thinks that he might be a soft kid, but

817
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: he's very um competitive and he'll fight you, fight you

818
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: to the end, which we know. He had a huge

819
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: reputation coming out of high school. Do you remember remember when, um,

820
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: that kind of exploded when he started to get really

821
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: a lot of attention locally and then kind of growing

822
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: beyond locally to nationally And how did he handle that?

823
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: I think he held well. I answered the back end

824
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: for all the attention that he received during high school,

825
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: and it even started in middle school with him because

826
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: everybody knew who he was. And he started as a

827
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: freshman in high school as a ninth grader playing football

828
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: here in Georgia. That's pretty impressive. And he started for

829
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: four years and he went to it. I think three

830
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: stake championships in one a couple of state championships, and

831
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: for us, the hype of it. I always remember were

832
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: at a Chick fil A one day watching film and

833
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: its elderly lady said, you are Trevor Lawrence. He said, like,

834
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: do you mind if I take a picture of trying

835
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: to get an autograph? And he was so gracious in

836
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: that it wasn't arrogant or anything like that. So at

837
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: that point in time, I knew that he learned how

838
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: to deal with his status. Um as a I would say,

839
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: a celebrity, yeah, real quick. But I gotta follow up

840
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: on that coach as somebody who played quarterback. If my

841
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: if I had a quarterback coach who was training me

842
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: at a Chick fil A, I do believe I would

843
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: have far exceeded the level at which I played. I mean,

844
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: that is that's next level right there. That was a

845
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: broth of spot man that we would go down with

846
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: all the stuff, but it works like him. It was

847
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: right close the street from his eyes. Uh, that's funny,

848
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Coach Um. One thing on Trevor, because you talked about

849
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: him being a freshman, Uh, leading a team that was very,

850
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: very successful. One of the things that he's known for

851
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: is winning. What is it about him that enables him

852
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: to get his team to the winners circle consistently? I

853
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 1: think he's just not a selfish person and he could

854
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: make other people around him better, even from to the

855
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: last guy on the roster to the first guys on

856
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: the roster. I think he treats everybody the same and

857
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: he leads for example. He's not a all god, but

858
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: he leaves by example. He's gonna be the first in

859
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: the last one out. He's gonna encourage, encourage, encourage, and

860
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: that's the biggest things I see from him. Coach, What

861
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: was the reaction from from the community seeing after he

862
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: goes to Clemson and that game where he is a

863
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: young player tears up this legendary Alabama defense to win

864
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: a national championship. What was the was the reaction from

865
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: folks in town there? Well, you know, he's an auth

866
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: of Atlanta in Cartersville. I'm sure he was praise to

867
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: the hilt, But what he's doing for the kids here

868
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: in Atlanta in the metro area is just showing that

869
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: there's a way that you can accomplish all of these

870
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: things by just doing work and being being hubble as

871
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: you go about what you're doing, and the success to

872
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: come from the hard work. And I think he put

873
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: in a whole lot of hard work along with the

874
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: talent that he has. With those two kids being together, coach, Um,

875
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: did they ever trained together? Did Sin and Trevor ever

876
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: trained together? And if so, what was that like? Well,

877
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: we only did it one time, I said, too, But

878
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: they said one, Um, we had it where after the

879
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: freshman year at Georgia or going into the freshman year

880
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: at Georgia and Clemson, we had them on the field

881
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: together and usually neither one of them talk during a session.

882
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: So this session was even extra quiet because you could

883
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: see the competitive level go and go and go, and

884
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: there was this type of session where you don't really

885
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: say much, you just watch and enjoy it because it

886
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: was much to say. It was just they they went

887
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: at it from head from the start to the finish.

888
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: And it's pretty good. It's pretty good, you know, coach.

889
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: How unusual is it they have two, i mean, top

890
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: picks within thirty five miles of each other. Is there

891
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: a high better quarterback talent in that area in Georgia? Yeah,

892
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: right now, I'm kind of biased, but yeah, I think

893
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: we have a a good group of people training quarterbacks

894
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: in Atlanta right now. And Atlanta has a good group

895
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: of kids, maybe kids right now. Got d one office

896
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: here in Georgia, And I don't know if it's a

897
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: hot bed, but something's happening and something something good is

898
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: happening on out end, and we'll take it. So, like

899
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: I said, those two kids are helping so many other

900
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: kids that they probably don't even know about, for as

901
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: their dreams of playing at the next level or even

902
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: making it to the NFL. But what they're doing is

903
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: really helping a lot of kids in the metro. From

904
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: the standpoint like, I can do the same thing if

905
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: I really really focus on what I'm doing and and

906
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I respect the help, I won't be humble about the game.

907
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: There's no where it can take me somewhere, you know. Well,

908
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: a couple of takeaways here, Buck. First of all, I

909
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: love the fact that he's doing work in Chick fil Ah.

910
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: That's uh to win for me, that that's uh, that's

911
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna get you a little not to bump up in

912
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: the grade watching film it in Chick fil A. But

913
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: to me, the other thing that really stood out is

914
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: the fact we we talked about this phrase. And I

915
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: think some people maybe they think it's it's hokey or

916
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: what have you. But when you say, guys a natural thrower,

917
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: some of these kids you can just tell the first

918
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: time they picked up a baseball or a football, like

919
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: that's what it was supposed to look like. And and

920
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: to me, that's kind of Trevor just a real easy

921
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: natural thrower, easy natural thrower. UM. And I think the

922
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: talent is always there when you look at it, because

923
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he exerts a lot of energy

924
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: and effort when he makes throws. UM. Coachville's outlining of

925
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Trevor's like perfectionist tendencies and how he just wants to

926
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: do it right all the time and how he's driven

927
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: to uh do those things. I think that's a common

928
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: thread this year it amongst great players, and so to

929
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: identify and spot that in Trevor Lawrence early. I think

930
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: he kind of highlights why he's been able to have

931
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: the success that he's had as a young player. Well,

932
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: we used to say in the draft room, you know,

933
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: our bosses used to tell us, hey, paint a picture

934
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: of this player, you know, paint a picture where if

935
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: we've never seen him before, you got to describe him

936
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: and tell us about him so we can close our

937
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: eyes and imagine what he looks like. That's what we're

938
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: trying to do here in this three sixty episode. So

939
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: hopefully you've got a good feel for what Trevor was

940
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: like kind of coming through high school and in the

941
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: early development and when he got started in this sport.

942
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: Now we want to transition to what took place once

943
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: he got the Clemson because he has had one of

944
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: the better college careers of a quarterback that we've seen

945
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: and gosh, since we've been doing it buck going back

946
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: twenty years. Um, so let's jump into that. And to

947
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: do that, let's bring back coach Dabo Sweeney for a

948
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: little bit about what took place there at Clemson. I

949
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: think Trevor can be an international superstar. You know, there's

950
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: not many football players have become International Superstars. Uh. I

951
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: think part of the part of that is just because

952
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, we all wear helmets and uniforms, and you

953
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: know you kind of get uh identify, buy that, and

954
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: then you take the helmets off, and you know, you

955
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: become a normal person. Sometimes you blend in. Trevor doesn't

956
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: blend in, uh in any regard, and I think that.

957
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that you know,

958
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: just because of his presence, um, he's got a chance

959
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: to really transcend the sport. What would you give? Because

960
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: I know what I would give. What would you give

961
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: to just be able to wear Trevor's hair for like

962
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: maybe this like a week, if you could just walk

963
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: around with that, mean for a week, what would you give? Well,

964
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: if I had known you were gonna ask that question,

965
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: I would I would have put my wig on because

966
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: I got a Trevor Ray I got on the forehead

967
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: right there. Uh. Yeah, I've warned that for Halloween. I've

968
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: wanted to a couple of team meetings along the way,

969
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I've had some fun with that, but

970
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, it seems like a lot

971
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: of work to me. But uh, you kind of worry

972
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: about your shampoo and you know the flip and all

973
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, but hey, we're for him. I

974
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: don't know that I can pull it off, but I

975
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: guess six six you can. It goes with it. But

976
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: you know, the cool thing about him is he does

977
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: have this look of Hollywood. You know, he really does

978
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: like you know, but he I'm telling you, he is

979
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: the most un Hollywood guy you're ever gonna meet. He

980
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: is this very simple, very disciplined, uh you know, routine

981
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: guy and uh just just very normal, very normal guy. Uh.

982
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, he looks like this, you know, like

983
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: he's got all this uh you know, almost prima donna

984
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: to him. But he does it. Man, he's he probably

985
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: uses panting, you know, simple shampoo. He probably don't have

986
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: anything cantcy or anything like that. We have to do.

987
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: We have to do comps, right, so you know, for

988
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: the network, we always have to come up with comparisons

989
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: for these guys. And so U with Trevor, I said,

990
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: well he's not there's not one comform. He's kind of

991
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: a unicorn of that in that degree. So to me,

992
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: I just said, look, he's got justin Herbert frame, he's

993
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: got Jennifer Anderson's hair, you know, like that's that's physicid

994
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: and come up with. Yeah. I don't really have a

995
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: camp for him either. I mean I really don't, right,

996
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't know he is he is. He is very unique,

997
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: you know. I mean a lot of people. In fact,

998
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: we did I just did a thing with the he

999
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: and Peyton. We did a little thing down at the

1000
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: Golf turn MASTERSS Golf tourn That was kind of fun

1001
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: seeing those two, uh, you know, because that was really

1002
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: his hero growing up was Peyton Manton. That's why I

1003
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: War sixteen was Peyton. Peyton was funny because he was like,

1004
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, you like if I was his hero, you

1005
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: I wish you'd chosen my alma mater. Uh. You know.

1006
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: But but you know he's he's he's big like Peyton, uh,

1007
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: but just a better athlete, you know. I mean he

1008
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: can just flat out run. I mean he's so different.

1009
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Uh I I can't really recall anyone like him that

1010
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: had the combination of that size and speed and and

1011
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: our talent. Uh. It's it's unique and and just an

1012
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: incredible football I Q to go with it. I mean

1013
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: he's uh, it's got a high aptitude for the game.

1014
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: Processes things quickly, anticipates. Well, you know, it can make

1015
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: all the throws and got a bright future for sure.

1016
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: Well I thought it was. It's fascinating. Buck. When we

1017
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: think of comps, I don't know that there is one.

1018
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: Uh for Trevor. It's just different, right, I mean we

1019
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: can say a little bit of this guy, a little

1020
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: bit of that guy, but it's uh, as coach said,

1021
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to come up with one. Yeah, it's

1022
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: hard to come up with one. And when we think

1023
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: about Trevor and you watch him, you know, it's funny

1024
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: because you just don't see guys his size, with his athleticism,

1025
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: his arm talent. I know recently we've seen Justin Herbert

1026
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: come into the league, but it's kind of hard to

1027
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: compare somebody like that so quickly. But yeah, Trevor is

1028
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: he's unique player. He's a bit of a unicorn at

1029
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: a position, no doubt. He's definitely different. Um, all right,

1030
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: let's let's get back to his parents here. Uh, this

1031
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: is Army and Amanda Lawrence about that that magical run

1032
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: there his first year at Clemson five to pick ups. Wow, man,

1033
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I want to go back to you on this one.

1034
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: The his freshman year and I see I believe I

1035
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: don't know if the jersey is behind you are from

1036
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: that from that season or not. But to step on

1037
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: that stage and take over the position when he did,

1038
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: and then to go on that run, um, I mean,

1039
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: what was that like for you? For you as parents,

1040
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I'll start with you manage just to experience what a

1041
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: magical time that was for him and your family. Yeah,

1042
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: it was really exciting. I mean I was so proud

1043
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: of him and and just you know, he went out

1044
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: and competed and he didn't let any kind of press

1045
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: or you know, um, you know, I guess, um you

1046
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: know what the press was anticipating or whatever, or he

1047
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: didn't let that bother him. He knew that he had

1048
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: a job to do when he went to Clemson, that

1049
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: he was going to, you know, compete for the starting job.

1050
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: That's what all the quarterbacks do or any position that

1051
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: you're you know, assigned to or that you play, and

1052
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, he gave it his all. And um, yeah,

1053
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: I was just super proud of him. You know, I know,

1054
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: you have to be proud of not only what he's

1055
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: become on the field, but it seems like over the

1056
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: last year so he's really grown into the leadership position

1057
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: in terms of the face of Clemson. Uh, how have

1058
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 1: you seen him grown from your own eyes as a parent,

1059
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: in terms of a leader and as a role model

1060
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: for all this Well, I mean one one thing that

1061
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: comes to mind straightaway is um so high a state

1062
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: game when we were down and then we ended up

1063
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: coming back and and winning that game. I mean, he

1064
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: didn't let anything get him down. He really picked up

1065
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: his team and was like, guys, you know, we can

1066
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: do this, and um really just didn't get up. And

1067
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: he's he's always been persistent in that affect, and UM yeah,

1068
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm just super proud of how he's grown as a

1069
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: leader and that he can, you know, be an example

1070
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: to his teammates, hard worker, UM, you know, don't give up.

1071
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, he realizes along with that the platform he

1072
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: has to impact people off the field, and he embraces

1073
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: that and you know it really wants to take advantage

1074
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: of that opportunity. So I think he's definitely grown in

1075
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: that capacity and I think he will continue to do that. Well,

1076
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: this is this is probably the most important question that

1077
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: I have for you guys. You guys have been great

1078
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: with us today. Um, I just I got to know

1079
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: as somebody who's a little bit thin up here, and

1080
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: as Bucky, who's somebody who's more thin up there. Where

1081
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: does this beautiful flowing hair come from from? Trevor? Who

1082
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: did he get his hair from? Ye? Not for me

1083
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: the over of the years, but he had a head fall.

1084
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: That's gonna you realize, guys, that's the first that's the

1085
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: first endorsement deal that's coming. I mean, if it hasn't

1086
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: come already, I mean, that's the first one that's coming up.

1087
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a shampoo deal before the first contract

1088
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: is even signed. That's absolutely. I do think he's gonna

1089
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: have a shampoo deal. Buck, I think that's coming. That's

1090
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: just a matter of time there. That's that's the easiest

1091
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: marketing anybody could ever put together. Yeah, I mean absolutely, Look, man,

1092
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: he has he has everything that you look for you

1093
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: and it's easy to be jealous when you see a

1094
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: kid who has all the size and physical gifts that

1095
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: that you want. You see the hair which certainly stands

1096
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: out and makes them an even bigger superstar when you

1097
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: look at it, and then just the overall talent and

1098
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: the way that he wins some guys just have that

1099
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: magical ability to get their team to the winner circle.

1100
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: Trevor went on one of the best runs that we've

1101
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: seen in college football in terms of leading the Tigers

1102
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: to their first national championship, and for him to do

1103
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: it as a freshman is uncommon. Definitely great to catch

1104
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: up with his parents again on that topic. All right,

1105
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: let's bring back Trent Um again. Trent knows Trevor going

1106
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: back to the Elite eleven and I thought he has

1107
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: a a good feel for the evaluation and what you

1108
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: see when you study and what he did at Clemson.

1109
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Trevor wins a national title very early in his career,

1110
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: and then he gets Clemson back, but he he loses

1111
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: in the semifinals and then loses in the finals. Um

1112
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: during those two years and watching him as a college player,

1113
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: what are the things that you're most impressed with and

1114
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: what do you think that he has to continue to

1115
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: work on to be the player that we all think

1116
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: that he can be at the next level. We'll start

1117
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: with what he needs to improve on, and it's been

1118
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: something he's been working on since high school, but just recently,

1119
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: in the last couple of months, he's really identified it

1120
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: with Jordan Palmer. I spoke to Jordan a couple of

1121
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and the things that Trevor came in wanting

1122
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: to work on the same things that myself and Jordan

1123
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: and others kind of identified. He's got to become more

1124
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: flexible in his upper torso, so he has very poor

1125
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: thoracic flexibility. Therefore, he doesn't rotate as a thrower. He

1126
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: goes distal and forward as a thrower, so he tends

1127
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: to be wide and spread out at times. Um that

1128
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: leads to some of the inconsistencies. I think he addressed

1129
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: that already. He wants to play with a more stable base.

1130
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: He wants to stay more level, so fundamental stuff, fundamental

1131
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: stuff that will lead to more consistency. And that's the

1132
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: only knock you can find on Trevor is that every

1133
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: once in a while a ball will get away from

1134
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: him when he's really trying to rip it or when

1135
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: he's rushed, because there's some slight tweaks he needs to

1136
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: make fundamentally, but that's really it. He has his good

1137
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: eyes for the game, is good at presence in the pocket,

1138
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: a feel for people around him, when to become, when

1139
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: to attack the line of scrimmage as a runner and

1140
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: win to buy time with shuffles and slides in the pocket.

1141
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: There's a great clip I think it's against Order Dame

1142
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: in the in the playoff game where they're running kind

1143
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: of a dive in fake acrossing route and in a

1144
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: high corner off of it, and he's getting pressured and

1145
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks would have not bought the time to make the throw,

1146
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: and he goes backwards in the pocket because the defensive

1147
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: line linemen are coming up on him and takes probably

1148
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: off the ball and lays it out to a spot

1149
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: and they get thirty yards out of it. A little

1150
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: nuances like that in this game. He's playing the professional

1151
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: level game. At the college level, he's a he's a horsepower,

1152
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: twitch guy. And I kind of introduced this concept a

1153
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago with Justin Herbert as a sophomore

1154
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, there's a guy coming up that

1155
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: has a rare combination of horsepower and twitch because simply

1156
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: what she gives you, guys have horsepower, they're very powerful,

1157
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: they're strong, uh, they have physical confidence. Think Ben Roethlisberger,

1158
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, some of the giants of the game. But

1159
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: they lack some twitch. They lack that UH, and the

1160
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: next thing you know they're gone or that their I

1161
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: C and it comes out of their hand. And then

1162
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: you see a littler guys at times, Johnny Manzel, some

1163
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: of the smaller guys that they're so twitchy, but they

1164
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: lack power. Well, very rarely do you find the guys

1165
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: that have both. UH. Andrew Luck was really the first

1166
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: one lacked a little twitch but had it. I thought

1167
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: Herbert was another one that had it. UH. And now

1168
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at Lawrence, who's really the ultimate model force,

1169
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: power and twitch. So from a trade standpoint, that's what

1170
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: it is. And then and then he has every throw

1171
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: in the catalog. We always talk about how big is

1172
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: your throw catalog. Some guys are great at outbreaking routes,

1173
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: some guys are good at target routes. Some guys throw

1174
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: a lot of crossing routes. Some guys throw some runaway

1175
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: runaway routes, deep all quick game, RPO, catch and throw,

1176
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: whatever it is, he's got them all. The one thing

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01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: about this offense is it's I wouldn't call it a system,

1178
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: and at times it's lacking, but over his career they

1179
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: have added volume to the catalog, and he's pretty much

1180
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: made every throw you're gonna be asked to make in

1181
01:01:52,680 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: his college career. Deep throw, just the last broa he's

1182
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: done in touchstop. I like that horsepower twitch, you know,

1183
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: I've used both those individually, talk about guys having horsepower,

1184
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: talk about guys having twitch. Trent just combined them all together. Yeah,

1185
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean he does have I mean extraordinary gifts and

1186
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: and that's why because we talked about the six five

1187
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: six six frame, but the athleticism and then the arm talent.

1188
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: The whip is outstanding in terms of being able to

1189
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: push it down the field, the way the ball comes out.

1190
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: You've talked earlier about it him being a natural thrower,

1191
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: and so yeah, the the best pictures are the ones

1192
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: that can mix a little power with a little finesse.

1193
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is able to do that. It's always great

1194
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: when you can talk to somebody that is an expert

1195
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position as well as somebody who's coached

1196
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: against Trevor Lawrence. And we had that opportunity to visit

1197
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: with David Cutcliff, who's the head coach at Duke and

1198
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: and one of the premier voices on the quarterback position.

1199
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about somebody that you

1200
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: a chance to coach against. I know somebody that you

1201
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: had on campus as well, you've known for it for

1202
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: a long time, and that's Trevor Lawrence. We all assume

1203
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: he's going to be the first pick here to the

1204
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. But what was your first exposure to him

1205
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 1: and what was your takeaway? Well, I mean, first of all,

1206
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: he's bigger than you think he is. Uh, he is

1207
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: faster than you think he is. Okay, I know his

1208
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: high school coach, Well, he was well coached and trained

1209
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: in high school. But the things that his high school

1210
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: coach said about him as a person as a teammate,

1211
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: I think he's displayed at Clemson that he's a great teammate,

1212
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: which is extremely important. Probably the greatest compliment and athlete

1213
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: can get is being a great teammate. And so I

1214
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: do think he's humble, hard working. Um, you know where

1215
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: he is and his progression as a quarterback I wouldn't

1216
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: know as much about, but he does possess the skill

1217
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: level and really again going back to having great respect

1218
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: for his high school coach, and remember everything he said

1219
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: about Trevor makes you realize that he's got the intangibles

1220
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: as well. You know, coach is great to hear you

1221
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: talk about that. One more perspective on Trevor being on

1222
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: the opposite sideline. When you face a guy like Trevor Lawrence,

1223
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: what do you feel like facing a guy like that?

1224
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: What's what's the challenge when you face someone who's as

1225
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: talented and dynamic as a Trevor Lawrence. Well, I mean,

1226
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: we didn't really have an answer, to be honest with you.

1227
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: The challenges are is that he is big enough and

1228
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: he can be pure in that pocket. He can do

1229
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: what the guys I've coached before can do. Uh, and

1230
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: then he can create. So like we played against Johnny

1231
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: Manzel and his last game at Texas A and m

1232
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: good arm Uh. We all know the mobility was incredible,

1233
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: but you knew he wasn't gonna just stay in the

1234
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: pocket and throw it the way Trevor can. Trevor can

1235
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: throw out routes on time, he can throw digs on time. Um,

1236
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, and that that's really to me. What you've

1237
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: got to see is and he's certainly the body type

1238
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: you know to do that. And I think that's the uniqueness.

1239
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: We didn't have an answer. I mean, if you just

1240
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: try to keep him in the pocket, rush high, he's

1241
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: going to be successful in there. Uh. You can't even

1242
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: not rush him and try to jump in bad balls

1243
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: because he's a good size guy. So we struggled again.

1244
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: The best thing you can do is limit a number

1245
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: of snaps they get. I thought the stuff about throwing

1246
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: on time was impressive Buck as much as you know,

1247
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: bigger and faster and more athletic and all that stuff

1248
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: than you maybe think when you watch him on tape

1249
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: too when you see him in person. I think the

1250
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: fact that he can throw routes on time, I think

1251
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: that point by Coach cut Cliff was a big one. Yeah,

1252
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: I think that definitely was a big one. I think

1253
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: the bigger thing was Coach Cliff pointing out that he

1254
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: just sensed that Trevor Lawrence was a great teammate. Uh.

1255
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: So much of what we talked about with the quarterback

1256
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: position has to do with the physical ability, but it's

1257
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: a leadership position and being able to connect all types

1258
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: of players from different parts and in different backgrounds and

1259
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: all those things, and to support them and to get

1260
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: all of those guys kind of moving in the right direction.

1261
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: For an opposing coach to be able to see that

1262
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: and identify that in Trevor Lawrence, it just kind of

1263
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: tells you how special Trouble Lawrence is. And I think

1264
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: it's interesting when you just kind of connecting the dots

1265
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: here and Coach Cutcliffe having coach Peyton Manning, Um, you

1266
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: think about Trevor Lawrence wearing that number is Dabbo told

1267
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: us because of Peyton Manning at Tennessee. UM. So to me,

1268
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's interesting when you see these

1269
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of path that he's on and there

1270
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: are he does have a little bit of Peyton Manning

1271
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: to his game. Obviously a different athlete, um, but there

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Speaker 1: is there is some similarities there. It's it's fascinating when

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Speaker 1: you when you get a chance to connect all these dots.

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Speaker 1: Another coach there in the a SEC that we have

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Speaker 1: a great relationship with, one of my coaches from from

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Speaker 1: app State is is Scott Saderfield, who has done a

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: really nice job there with that Louisville football program. We

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with him and and ask

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Speaker 1: him his thoughts on Trevor Lawrence. I don't think you

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: saw him this year, right, I don't think you played

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Speaker 1: Clemson this year, but I know you saw him in

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01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: nineteen Um, just just playing, playing against uh and coaching

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: against Trevor Lawrence and then also seeing him. I'm sure

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01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: you saw him a ton of crossover tape this year.

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Speaker 1: Just your take on him as a former quarterback yourself, Well,

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's really unbelievable. You know. I try

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: to find a weakness on him, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is. That'd be interesting to hear you're taking

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01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: that what weakness you may think he has, because you know,

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: he's six six, he runs like he's six foot. Um,

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: he's got a tremendous arm. He's um, he's very accurate,

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Speaker 1: you know. But but I think the one thing that

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01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: I love more about him than anything else, it's just

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01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 1: his demeanor and his approach to the beginning. I think

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: that sets him apart from from everybody else. You know,

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: when you have that, I mean he's he's more in

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: the line of the Haydon Man to Tom Brady, that

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He's got that about him. So, and those

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01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: guys obviously are Hall of Fame type players. So he

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01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: has the talent. He's got the skill set more so

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01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: than you know. Tom Brady is tall, but he can't run,

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01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: you know. Drew Brees is short. You know, he's got

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: a great arm. You know. So he's got kind of

1304
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,440
Speaker 1: all those intangibles plus the things that you want, the leadership,

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01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: the humbleness that he has, the you know, the team

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: first mentality, and people want to play for him and

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: give everything to have for him. He's gonna make everybody

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: around him better. Um, you know. So he's just he's

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: a man. He's a unicorn. In my opinion, I think

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01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 1: the only thing you do is is kind of nitpick,

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: Like when he played those games L s U in

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01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: a higher state, maybe win depression and the late changing coverage,

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01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: they tricked him a little bit, But he is so good.

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01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: I think coach for you, I think it's always fascinating

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: to get a coach's perspective when you're on the other

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01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: sideline and your team is playing against a dude, I

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: meaning a franchise quarterback. What is that feeling like when

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: you're facing him? Does it change how you approach it

1319
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: from offense? Defense? Like? What is it like facing a

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: top of not quarterback? On the other side. Well, yeah, yeah,

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: it's very challenging obviously. Now we played them two years ago.

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: I think we had two picks, so he had thrown

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Speaker 1: an interception in a while and we ended up picking

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: them off. He threw into coverage a little bit, you know,

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: trying to force the ball. But um, you know, as

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: sometimes quarterbacks do that. But but I think, you know,

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: you really just try to contain him. I mean really,

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01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know he's gonna be able to make

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: those plays. The thing about Clemson too, is that you

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: had some other players that are really good, you know,

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01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: some of those wide receivers, they're running back. So I

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: mean you really really just can't try to focus on

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: stopping him. So um, that's where it makes it really challenging,

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01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: I think. But but I think you just want to

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: try to keep everything in front. You don't want to

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: give up those big plays um that he's obviously capable

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: of doing. Try try to make him get impatient, I think. So,

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, just give him the underneath throws and see

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: if he'll take them all day. You know some quarterbacks won't,

1340
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, they want to get Hey, I want to

1341
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: throw that ball down the field. I want to get

1342
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: a little bit hungry and and and eager to throw

1343
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. That's where you get in trouble.

1344
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: But if he has that patience, then it's gonna be

1345
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: hard to beat him, you know, because have so many

1346
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: great weapons around him. But um, but yeah, it's it's

1347
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: very difficult. I think when you're facing somebody of that

1348
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: caliber town well, as you know, coach, I prefer it

1349
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: for the team to just give me the underneath stuff

1350
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to have. I'll take those layups

1351
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: all day long. Can't go taking a profit. And somebody

1352
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: once told me back in the day, that's again buck leadership, humility. Um,

1353
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: some of those things that come up that you would

1354
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: think as an opposing coach you wouldn't really pay attention

1355
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: to more the skill set stuff, but man, it just

1356
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: comes out everybody we talked to, Yeah, it comes out.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: So it's obvious DJ that Trevor Lawrence displays something on

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01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: the field that other coaches can kind of sense. Sometimes

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01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: we talk about the it factor in the swagger, but

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01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: when I get that I get from Trevor Lawrence, there's

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01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: just self assured. It's this quiet confidence that you can

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01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: just pick up that he kind of has this. I

1363
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: got it, don't worry about the team. I got it.

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01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: And I think opposing coaches recognized that, and I think

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01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: they appreciate that, no doubt. Um. We had a chance

1366
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: to visit with gosh, coaches and family members, uh, players,

1367
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: guys that have coached against him, UM, trainers, you name it. Buck.

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01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: We've talked to this about everybody we haven't talked to

1369
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: as a teammate, and we couldn't get through this episode

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01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: without getting a glimpse of Trevor Lawrence as a teammate,

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01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: and we did that. Fortunately, you were able to catch

1372
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: up with arguably the best running back in this year's

1373
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: draft class, his teammate, Travis E. T n it's a

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: shuttle pause and a second time you know so, and

1375
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: and thinking about clips in your program. You guys have

1376
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: been so successful and so there's naturally a lot of

1377
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: attention on the players there, and one of the players

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: has been Trevor Lawrence. What is it like to play

1379
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence? What do is he like? In the

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01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: hutle Trevor, he just cool, calm and collected. I mean, uh,

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: he really don't bust his opinion. But when you do it,

1382
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: everyone stops and listen, and I feel like Trevor, uh

1383
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: the Scots looking for him, and man, I mean it

1384
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: was really a great experience. How many experiences of me

1385
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,919
Speaker 1: to be able to play with the number one cornerback,

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: number one pick eventually, So for me, I'm just father

1387
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: grateful hope that I got to play with him. And

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: I mean, man, though those times you kind of take

1389
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: for granted, but looking back on it, you really see

1390
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: how special of those moment was. You know, you guys

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: were very very special. You guys accomplished a lot. And

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: it's funny because both of you you guys were very very

1393
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: young players. When you're one the national title. Uh, did

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01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: it ever seemed like he was overwhelming for you or

1395
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: for Trevor like to step in that step on that

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: big stage and really lead the team. No, sir, not

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: at all. It was never overwhelming. That just the closest

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: that we have off like that goes credit to the culture. Uh,

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: just just the group of God that we had around us.

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01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: I felt like it was easy for Trevor to step

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01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: in and leave because everyone saw about their business and uh,

1402
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: we we all had one kind of goal, so it

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: was easier for him to step in there and just

1404
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: do what he do well. Buck, I think we're we're

1405
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of painted the picture here. Now. This is a

1406
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: there's a humble confidence to Terrevor Lawrence. Um, there's as

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: good as he is, there's still more for him. And

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01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 1: I think Travis etend a good job of kind of

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: painting that picture. Yeah, he talked about it not being

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: too big for him, and I think we all have

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: been around UH players where we'd like to see him

1412
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: in pressure moments and how they respond and for a

1413
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: young player or freshman player to play on a big

1414
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: stage and not to become overwhelmed by the task at hand. Um.

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: Once again, it just kind of further confirms UH a

1416
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: lot of belief from scouts that this guy is QB one.

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01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: He is the guy. He should be celebrated as one

1418
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: of the best that we've seen come through the pipeline.

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: And I think everything that we've heard from those that

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: know him well, from his his family members, to his

1421
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: coaches to opposing coaches says that Trevor Lawrence is that dude.

1422
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: And I think if you're a team that is looking

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: for a quarterback and franchise quarterback, you're sitting at the

1424
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: top of the board. When you just listen to the background,

1425
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: all of those things make you really want to check

1426
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: off all the boxes, and it just kind of leads

1427
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: you to believe that this guy is going to have

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01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: tremendous success when he gets to the next level, that

1429
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: he is going to be able to handle all the

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: things that are put on him as a franchise quarterback,

1431
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: and that if given the time and given the support,

1432
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: that at some point he is going to help his

1433
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: team win and win big. Yeah, we think about him

1434
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: in context of, you know, kind of the draft grades

1435
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: you've given out, Andrew luck is the only quarterback I've

1436
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: given a higher grade two um, going back to oh three,

1437
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: And you know, for context, I would say I had

1438
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: just a little bit higher grade on Miles Garrett. So

1439
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: you think about Myles Garrett his position, we could say

1440
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: probably the best player at his position in the NFL.

1441
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 1: I have a little bit lower grade on Trevor Lawrence

1442
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett, but he's in that conversation, which is

1443
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: a pretty select group. It's easy to put big rays

1444
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: on players that not only where you see the talent

1445
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: on film, but when you dig into the background. It

1446
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: appears that they're very, very committed to being the best

1447
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: that they can be, and I think with Trevor, all

1448
01:14:56,120 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: signs point to this guy being an outstanding pro player. Now,

1449
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: sometimes we can never guarantee that it's going to work

1450
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: out like that, but you get the sense that he

1451
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: is going to do everything within his power to make

1452
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: sure that he performs at a high level, and that

1453
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: he's going to bring his teammates with him. I'm willing

1454
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: to bank on a guy like that. I'm willing to

1455
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: roll the dice that a guy like that figures it out. Yeah,

1456
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: when you get elite traits and elite intangibles, that's when

1457
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: you get conviction on players. You know, that's when you

1458
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: feel confident and comfortable pushing your chips in. And he

1459
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: has that. So he's got everything you want from a

1460
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: skill set standpoint, and then you add all the off

1461
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: the field stuff that checks out. So uh yeah, to me,

1462
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: he's a He's a pretty easy evaluation, and I think

1463
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: it's like that for most of the league. Um, and

1464
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I cannot wait to see him get on

1465
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: an NFL field and see what he can do. Buck.

1466
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's gonna have tremendous success. It

1467
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: may it happen immediately, but I think when supported in

1468
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: the right environment, this guy is gonna be a star

1469
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: at the next level. Everything that he's done to this

1470
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: point suggest that he will be a superstar. I can

1471
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: imagine that changing right now. I'm with you. I hope

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01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: you guys have enjoyed this. It's been great to do

1473
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: a deep dive on Trevor Lawrence for this Move the

1474
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: six three six episode. UM, we've got a couple more

1475
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: you can check out. Um, they're they're coming, So they're

1476
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: on the way beyond the lookout for those as we

1477
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: uh as we celebrate some of the best players in

1478
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: this year's draft class. This has been the move The

1479
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: six three six episode, Trevor Lawrence, I'll see you next

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01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: time right here.