1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio once again here 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: on a huge NFL playoffsday. The mic was down during 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Living the Dream. Say it again, Love of the Dream. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Once again here on a huge NFL playoffs Sunday. This 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: is a red zone radio. Got to do a restart 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: there once again. We're broadcasting live from the ti rag 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: dot com studios tyre rag dot com. We're gonna have 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: get you there and I'm at Selection fast Reshipping free 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: road as a protection over ten thousand recommending installers tire 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: rack dot com the way tire buying should be. All right, 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: we get a rede We got a little redo at 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the start there. 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: This actually happened yesterday. 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: We have a microphone here in our Sherman Oaks studios 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: that is hanging on by a thread and told you 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: not to move it yesterday before. I didn't touch it. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: I didn't touch it, Okay, I. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Will see this. It's just the power of his voice 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: that moves that much. 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: It does. Rich has been on remote of me where 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: we've literally been blasted off the right been. There's like 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: five other mics in there, and you insist on using 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: that mic. 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: Because this is my mic. 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so my advice is if I'm gonna use this mic, 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: which I always do, so I have a clear view 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: of Moncey, and I have a clear view of Bow, 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and I have a clear view of Chris, and I 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: can hear Rich. I'm gonna continue to be on this mic. 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to be over there where I can't 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: see everybody. 32 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: So there you go. 33 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: So my recommendation is, somebody please reattach this microphone. All right, 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: let's put that aside because we have a huge Sunday 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 36 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: We are two hours away from kickoff. 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: And what will be a frigid arena there in Philadelphia. 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: The Rams will take on the Eagles, and as cold 39 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: as that game is, it'll be nothing compared to the 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: game later on tonight when the Buffalo Bills hosting the 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. So again, a couple hours away from kickoff 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: of that Rams Eagles game, Rich, which gives us plenty 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: of time to talk about what happened yesterday in the 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: National Football again. You know, for Chris to be here today, 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit. A devastating loss 46 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions yesterday. Coming off the buy. You 47 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: think about a team that has waited since nineteen fifty 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: seven to play for an NFL championship. All signs were 49 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: they were on their way to this year's Super Bowl. 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: They had the home field, they had a blowout victory 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: over the Vikings to secure that number one seed a 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: And the problem with yesterday's game was very simple. 54 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: You talk about stats, right and the Lions, which they 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: averaged what thirty three points a game? They scored thirty one. 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: But here's the two stats that are just mind blowing 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: turnovers Lions five, commanders zero, sacks, Commanders eight, Lions zero. 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: So when you have those kind of numbers, even with 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: the home field advantage, even with your offense for much 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: of the game operating at a high level, there's no 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: way you can win. And all those injuries that they 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: had on the defensive side of the football were exposed 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: by a young quarterback by the name of Jaden Daniels. 64 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: So Jaden Daniels, when he was coming out of LSU 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: as the Heisman winner, I think the. 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: Lack of celebration for what he was able. 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: To accomplish during his collegiate career was muffled by the 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: attention I'll put it that Kayleb Williams was getting and 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: warranted attention. 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: By the way, because. 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams is a very talented quarterback, there's no question 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: about it. 73 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: But this happens. 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: This happens because somebody is getting the majority of the 75 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: spotlight and the attention. Many don't really follow the real story, 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: which is Jaden Daniels was the most ready NFL prospect 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: of that draft. 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: And I was saying it. Now. 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to you know, hey, 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: I told you so. I knew this was gonna happen. 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: I did not expect Jaden Daniels to be appearing in 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: an NFC championship game or a waiting for his opponent 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: in an NFC championship game. I did not see that coming. 84 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 4: But did I see him among the rookies that were taken, 85 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: especially in the first round, because there were six of 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: them having the best season. 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. 88 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: And it's because when you look back at back at 89 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: his college film, all of the breadcrumbs were there. This 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: guy avoids sacks in the pocket. 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: While keeping his eyes downfield. We saw it at LSU. 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 4: This guy throws a beautiful deep ball even when under pressure. 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: We saw it at LSU. This guy has incredible versatility 94 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 4: in the pocket, both escaping the rush and also creating 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: with his legs. As an athlete, rushing the ball against defenses, 96 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: forcing defenders closer to the line of scrimmage if you're 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: in man, or excuse me, if you're in zone. All 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: of a sudden, a backer or a shallow safety step up. 99 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: He pops the ball over the top to a tight 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: end or wide receiver streaking down the field. We saw 101 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: it against LSU okay Or while he was at LSU. 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: I understand he was playing against inferior collegiate opponents at 103 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: that time, but we saw all these gifts on display. 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: He never panicked. This guy was sensational. 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: He won the Best Football Player in the Country award, 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: and all of the attention was on Kayleb Williams, the 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: presumed first overall draft pick. I said it a couple 108 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 4: of times, and I was wrong about this. I said 109 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: he might go number one. It might be a smoke 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: screen because he's the more ready or college prospect. 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: He ends up going too to the Commanders. He ends 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: up playing for a coach. 113 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: He almost seemed like the bride's maid to this wedding 114 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: because the Commanders really wanted Ben Johnson. Gus got the 115 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: job because or Dan Quinn got the job because Ben 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: said no to it, basically, and the Commanders all the 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: while had this burgeoning offensive roster, not much to speak of. Defensively, 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: they don't stop the run. They had a lot of 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: problems this season, but because they were so good offensively 120 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: and they've been great in crunch time, they've been able 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: to advance. I'm really impressed with Jaden Daniels. I'm really 122 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: impressed with this whole franchise. They've undergone a complete facelift, 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: and here they are playing in an NFC championship game. 124 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: They are indeed, and it was and Dan Campbell, the 125 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: Alliance coach, said they deserved it. 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: We did not. 127 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: They outplayed us and again eight sacks, the zero, five 128 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: turnovers a zero just too much overcome for a very 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: talented Lions team. Isn't it interesting that we are crowing 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: about the best division in the NFL this year, the 131 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: NFC North oh and three in the playoffs. They lost 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: all three of their playoff games, Packers, Vikings, and Lions 133 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: all by double digits, right, double digits, right, So you 134 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: look at that NFC North and they were like, wow, 135 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the great division years 136 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. And in the end they come 137 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: up with a goose egg in the postseason. So let's 138 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Lions for a second here. You know, 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the vikings horrific loss to the Rams, 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's all this you know, question 141 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Mark about Sam Donald, like, you know, yeah, And remember 142 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: when he said this about Sam Donald all season long. 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: Remember we were talking about how the Vikings for real. The 144 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: answer was, well, they're for real if Sam Donald can 145 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: hold it together. And he was holding it together until 146 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: the last two games. He was now all of a sudden, 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I have a question about Jared Goff. So Jared Goff, 148 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: this was the biggest game of his career, that's right, 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: And the pick six was ugly. I mean, he he he. 150 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: I guess he wanted to go a little bit further 151 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: with it. It was a bad situation at that point, what 152 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: was it a one point game? And he overthrows his 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: receiver into walking pick six. 154 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: So we've been. 155 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Saying that, you know, in the in the be anyone, 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: the trade was made where the Rams had to give 157 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: up multiple number ones just to get rid of Goff's 158 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: contract to get Matthew Stafford in an exchange that he 159 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: was just sort. 160 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Of a placeholder in Detroit. 161 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: They weren't convinced obviously golf was gonna be the long term, 162 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, last year they get to 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. This year they get to the 164 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: number one seed. But in the end did he play. 165 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: He was outplayed badly by a rookie quarterback. So now 166 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: as you look forward for the Lions, who thought last 167 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: year was setting the table for the big this is 168 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: the year Lions best roster, they're gonna win a Super 169 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Bowl and they go out in the divisional round? Are 170 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: there questions now moving forward whether or not Jared Goff 171 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: is the guy that can lead this Lions team to 172 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: the Promised Land. 173 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say. 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: I think that Jared Goff is a fine quarterback for 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: the system he plays in. I think that Jared Goff 176 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: is is replaceable in that system. Now, I'm not saying 177 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: that it's obvious when you start going through the list, 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: who I mean, we have elite quarterbacks in this league. 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: Alan Lamar Jackson Mahomes. You know, you could even I 180 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: guess throw a name like, you know, those are the 181 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: three I want to really concentrate on as the elite. 182 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: But then you have this whole pile of quarterbacks that 183 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: are somewhere either between the first and second tier or 184 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: firmly in the second tier of quarterback, right. 185 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: You know, that's when you. 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: Get into the the Trevor Lawrences, the Justin Herbert's, the CJ. Strouds, 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: the brock Parties, the the you know, like there's this 188 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 4: long list of, you know, quarterbacks who they're not going 189 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: to be considered the best, but very good, and then 190 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 4: somewhere beneath them, you get into these quarterbacks are competent, 191 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: but they're not going to get you into the playoffs. 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: Names now like Aaron Rodgers. Unfortunately for the Jets, Kirk Cousins. 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: That is Dak Prescott. Maybe he's been injured lately. We'll 194 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: see how he recovers from that. But my point being, 195 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: there's this big group of quarterbacks who I think if 196 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: Detroit got their hands on, they could do the same 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: thing with I'm not saying Jared Goff's bad, but I'm 198 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: saying that what Jared Goff does is replaceable, Like you 199 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: know when they talk about war in baseball, like wins 200 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: above replacement, and it really just puts an assessment a 201 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: number on how invaluable a player is to his franchise. Well, 202 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: I think Jared Goff has a pretty good war, but 203 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: it's not better than say, fifteen other quarterbacks. 204 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,359 Speaker 3: Like you could replace. 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: Jared Goff with about maybe I'm over exaggerating with fifteen, 206 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: but with about twelve quarterbacks in this league starting quarterbacks, 207 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: and you could get similar results. 208 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, I want to stop here right there, because 209 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: on the other side, I want to get a little 210 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: bit more into this quarterback ranking situation, not only about 211 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Jery Goff, Matthew Stafford being in that 212 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: list Jalen Hurts, but whether or not there's another quarterback 213 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: that has passed them all. 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Red Zone Radio 231 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Here we are live from the Tairaq dot com studios. 232 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: All right, so we were talking a little bit about 233 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and came in today Bo, who is decked out. 234 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: In his Eagles gear. 235 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: He's a little torn rich, I have to say, because 236 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: as you know, mid season he became a huge Rams fan. 237 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: So and he admitted, well, you're admitting. 238 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: This is not me. 239 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: Beagles lose, You're not going to. 240 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: Be all that. 241 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 6: I said, La strong, baby, la strong. 242 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: So al right, So but he threw something at me, 243 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's a very interesting question. So as we 244 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: sit here right now, yes, at the end of this 245 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season. I think the top four quarterbacks, 246 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: there's no real argument. Do you have Patrick Mahomes at 247 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: the top period, and then you have Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 248 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow. 249 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 3: They're all kind of bunched up in the number two. 250 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: Right, exactly number five, Jaden Daniels. 251 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: Is it too soon to say Jade and Daniels over 252 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts or Jaden Daniels over Matthew Stafford? Is it 253 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: too early to say Jaden Daniels now sits number five 254 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: amongst current NFL quarterbacks? 255 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 6: See? What was that first name he threw out there? 256 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 6: I just want to make sure I heard that correctly. 257 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, did you say Jalen Hurts? 258 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. 259 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't have to do. 260 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: That, Okay, I'm just sawing that. 261 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: Well. 262 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was the toast of the NFL two years 263 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: ago when he out played Ma Holmes in the Super Bowl, 264 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: and unfortunate FuMB will cost the Eagles the Super Bowl. 265 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: But I'm asking you, Rich, is. 266 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels firmly in the number five slot? 267 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you a question, and then with 268 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: that question, your answer is going to give you my answer. 269 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Does Matt Ryan deserve to be in the 270 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 271 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: In my opinion? 272 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: No? 273 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: Okay, And I figured you were going to answer that 274 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: question that way. Does Philip Rivers deserve to be in 275 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: the Hall. 276 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: Of Fame in my opinion? 277 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: No? 278 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: Okay, Jalen Hurts. 279 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: And the reason why I picked those two quarterbacks, and 280 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 4: the reason why I'm talking about Hall of Fame is 281 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: because you're talking about a scale of quarterback greatness with 282 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: some of these current day quarterbacks. And the reason why 283 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: I chose those names is because you could argue there 284 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: were playoff appearances, sure, but what those two quarterbacks careers 285 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: boiled down to were one really, really solid year where 286 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: they had a chance to win it all and they 287 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. Now, wins and losses, in my opinion, 288 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: isn't a quarterback stat. We shouldn't really hang all of 289 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: the wins and losses on qbs alone, but winning is 290 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: a part of the conversation. 291 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: When we're talking about greatness. 292 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: The reason why Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of 293 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: all time has a lot to do with how much 294 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: he won during his time as New England's starting quarterback 295 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 4: and then Tampa Bay's So I get back to the 296 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: question you just asked me. One season does not make 297 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: a great quarterback Jalen Hurts. When we really close our 298 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: eyes and think about Jalen Hurts, he had that incredible 299 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: run to the super Bowl and he's gotten his team 300 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: back to the playoffs. Dot dot dot. We'll see what 301 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: happens this season. I'm I mean when we're talking about 302 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, I mean Dak Prescott's one of those quarterbacks 303 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: who he can get his team to the playoffs. Then 304 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: there's the dot dot dot, But what does he do 305 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: when he gets there? 306 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean c J. Stroud. 307 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: I remember last year, Steve, after the season he has, 308 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: you were asking the same question about c J. Stroud 309 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: and I said, could we wait for year two? So 310 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: I think you have my answer. Jayden Daniels, like I said, 311 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan. I was a big fan of 312 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: him coming out of college. I thought he was the 313 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: most ready college prospect. I didn't assume it would be 314 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: this great, but I thought he was going to be 315 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: the most or NFL ready college quarterback and that turned 316 00:15:59,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: out to be true. 317 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: But could we wait till what we see? What he 318 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: is like in year two. I mean c J. 319 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: Stroud year two a lot different than year one. Let's 320 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: let's put him on the wait and see list. 321 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think that's fair, and obviously we'll 322 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: see next week. I mean, if if he can win 323 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: a third consecutive road playoff game, either at the Rams 324 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: or at the Eagles, and get his team to the 325 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and dare I say, win the super Bowl? 326 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if he got to the super Bowl 327 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: and beat Patrick Mahomes. All right, I'm getting ahead of 328 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead myself. Then we might re readdress that question. 329 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: All right, I want to get to the Chiefs now. Yes, 330 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: So what we saw yesterday is what we've seen all 331 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: season along from the Chiefs. That is correct, It's exactly 332 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: This Chiefs team has been consistently whatever you saw yesterday 333 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: all season long. And this is a game in which 334 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: the Texans had zero turnovers zero. I mean, they had 335 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: some bad penalties. They also had some controversial penalties. Could 336 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: you believe that the play where the two Texan players 337 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: collided with each other actually never touched Patrick Mahomes and 338 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: the penalty was thrown, which, by the way, was part 339 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: of the drive that resulted in the biggest touchdown of 340 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: that game for the Chiefs. That aside, let's talk about 341 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: why the Chiefs are who they are and Travis Kelcey. 342 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: So here's Travis Kelcey sleep walking through the entire season. 343 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: We are kidding about the fact that he really has 344 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: to be jealous of the freedom that his brother Jason has. 345 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Jason Kelcey is making zillions, literally doing commercials all over 346 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: the place like he is living the life. And here's Travis, 347 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: like on the sideline saying that should be me right now? 348 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Why am I still out here? You know, these meaningless 349 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: But once the spotlight is on, Travis Kelcey shows you 350 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: why he's on the very short list of the greatest 351 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: tight ends ever to you know, he got a gift. 352 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: He didn't deserve the Pro Bowl based on what he 353 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: did during the season. Only had three touchdowns the entire year, 354 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: he averaged what like eight yards at catch. I mean, 355 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: it was a very forgettable regular season. And then all 356 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, seven catches over one hundred yards. Can 357 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: I ask you this though, and this. 358 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: This drives me nuts. 359 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: So three years ago I took my boys to the 360 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Chargers Chiefs game at SOFI Stadium. It was a Thursday 361 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: night game and Kelsey just ate up the Chargers and 362 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching him then like they got Derwin James singled coverage. 363 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not working. Okay, he is wide open 364 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: on every play. Do something different. And remember Tyreek Hill 365 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: was gone. Remember when when Tyreek Hill left. You're like, Okay, 366 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: now defenses can zero in on Travis Kelsey, check them 367 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: out out, yeah, double them up, do something so and 368 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: yet teams can't do this. I'm watching this game yesterday 369 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: when he caught that touchdown pass. 370 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: As Mahomes is going down. 371 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: He is literally wide open in the middle of the 372 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: end and I'm thinking of myself, how do you not 373 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: account for his presence on the field. So is it 374 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: defenses that just seem to be confused and how to 375 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: guard this guy? Or is this guy so brilliant in 376 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: his route running or whatever he can do to make 377 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: himself invisible on the field until the ball is in 378 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: his hands. 379 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: I want you to think about a chess board. This 380 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: will answer this question. 381 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: I promise. 382 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: Think about a chessboard and then understand that you have 383 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: you know the white squares, you know the black squares, 384 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: you have all the pieces in their places, and you're 385 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 4: allowed to move the chess pieces only certain ways. 386 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: Like the pawns. 387 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: On your opening move they can jump two spots from 388 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: that then forward, it's only one each time. You know 389 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: the nights, they can go two forward, one to the side. 390 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: You know the rules, right, everybody knows the rules of 391 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 4: chess by and large. But if you don't know chess, 392 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 4: I just want you to understand that all the pieces, 393 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: all the different pieces, all can move only the way 394 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: they're supposed to. They're not allowed to break those rules. 395 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey breaks all the rules. In fact, Travis Kelcey 396 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 4: sometimes goes off the chessboard like the normal chessboard, like 397 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: that is the confines of the playing field. And there 398 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: are times where wait, you can't do that. You can't 399 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: circumvent me capturing your king by moving him off the chessboard. 400 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: Well you can when you've played together and as well 401 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: together as long as Travis Kelcey and Mahomes have, and 402 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: given the freedom to do those things by the coach. 403 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: So Andy Reid saw this special talent in Travis kelce 404 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: He obviously admired the special talent of Patrick Mahomes otherwise 405 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: the Chiefs don't trade up and draft him, and he's 406 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: imbued them with a tremendous amount of trust to find 407 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: ways for Travis to get open. So when your defense, 408 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: to answer your question, Steve, you're expecting offensive players to 409 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: do certain things within the confines of the game rules 410 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: like this route is supposed to come here. And the 411 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: reason why I know that route's supposed to come here 412 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: because there's a partner route off the same tree that's 413 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: going to the other sideline. But all of a sudden, 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: Travis Kelce will put himself in a part of the 415 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: field where it doesn't make sense for a tight end 416 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: to be. He'll move around in zone coverage where he'll 417 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: get wide open in the end zone. 418 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: You'll say, why weren't they covering him? Well, here's the problem. 419 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: When Mahomes is trying to escape the pocket and your 420 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: eyes are forward on the quarterback, defenders get lost on 421 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: Mahomes because they need to come up and make a 422 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: stop if he does decide to tucket and run. And meanwhile, 423 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: Travis Kelce is behind those defenders or a side those 424 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: defenders finding the biggest distance between them to present a 425 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: passable target for Mahomes and that's exactly why he was 426 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: that wide open. And they've been doing it for years 427 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: to the frustration and chagrin of these defensive coordinator Steve 428 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: It's it's backyard football. And I know that sounds like 429 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: such a slander to what they're doing, because they've made 430 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: beautiful play after beautiful play. But truly, he has given 431 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 4: so much freedom, he's given the allowance to break so 432 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: many rules. 433 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: He's sometimes unguardable. 434 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's remarkable and not remarkable at the same time, 435 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: for all the reasons you gave. 436 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: I mean again, Travis Kelcey, what can you say? 437 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: He has more career postseason receptions than any player in 438 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League. All right, let's 439 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: find out what is a trending right now. And so 440 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: Madzie and I doing our picks. She's firmly in control. 441 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: But I did get one point back yesterday. Rich Are 442 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: you ready for this? Yeah, So we make what we 443 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: call our predictions on the games during the postseason in 444 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: a desperate attempt for me to get back into this. 445 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: We're going against the point spreads, yeah, and then over unders. 446 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: As you know, it's sort of a catch twenty two. 447 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: If you get it right, you get a point, but 448 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: if you get it wrong, you lose a point. But 449 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: we also may what we call bold predictions. It's got 450 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: to be something like everyone agrees, Okay, that's a bold prediction. 451 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: And my bold prediction on this Lions game yesterday against 452 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: the Commanders was that Jared Goff would have more interceptions 453 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: than touchdown passes. 454 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 455 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: And that one bold prediction came, I still have a 456 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: it's like climbing Mount Everest, and I picked up one point. 457 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 7: And just in case you're wondering, Rich, why this is 458 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 7: so complicated, it's all because of your buddy. 459 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Just so you know, poor producer Patrick. As you know, 460 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I am a numbers guy, so numbers. 461 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: Are easy for me. 462 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: Patrick readily admits that just adding numbers is a challenge 463 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: for him and that I've complicated this to such a degree. 464 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: Well, really, Montsi's keeping track. 465 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 8: Every track now. Once we realized that, I was like, 466 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 8: I'll keep track. 467 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 7: But yes, you had that nice bold Uh, definitely. 468 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 8: I don't think either of us expected the Commanders to win. 469 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: I know you need them to cover. You know, the 470 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: only reason I picked the Commanders is because you picked 471 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the Lions. I didn't feel good about the Commanders, but 472 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'll go for it, but then 473 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: I want with the under raz. 474 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 3: I think that was over a time I halftime. 475 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 8: It was almost I think forty. 476 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: Two points in the second quarter alone, most ever in 477 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: a playoff. 478 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, it's pretty crazy. 479 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 7: I felt pretty comfortable with taking the over at that 480 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 7: point at the half, but it was it was an 481 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 7: insane game. Yeah, So the Divisional Round continues soon in 482 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 7: about ninety minutes. 483 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 8: Eagles and Rams. 484 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 7: It's I just read that they think there's going to 485 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 7: be about seven inches of snow that drops throughout the 486 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 7: course of the game. 487 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: Yes, it is going to snow throughout this there's that 488 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: winter weather warning now in Philadelphia, so they're expecting snow 489 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: throughout the entire game. 490 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 8: That's going to be a rough and fun game to watch. 491 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 7: The winner is going to face Washington in the NFC 492 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 7: Championship Game, and then after around six thirty Eastern, it's 493 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 7: when the Bills are going to be hosting the Ravens 494 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 7: in the AFC Divisional Round. As expected, Baltimore is probably 495 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 7: not going to have wide receivers A Flowers available. The 496 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 7: winner is going to face the Chiefs in the AFC 497 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 7: Championship game after they took down Houston yesterday twenty three 498 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 7: to fourteen. A big topic of conversation has been the 499 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 7: referee and the officials and whatnot with that game. So 500 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 7: on Twitter, Jalen Watson, who was a cornerback for the Chiefs, 501 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 7: tweeted about fourteen hours ago, I miss when grown men 502 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 7: took their losses like a man. 503 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 8: A new day in. 504 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: Age, though, Well, see the Chiefs are now the victims 505 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: as the Patriots are. For years, it had become literally 506 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: the most hated team in the NFL. I don't know, 507 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: you're a diear Chiefs fan. I get it, diear, but 508 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: I mean, but she's not. And yet she likes the 509 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Chiefe I don't dislike them. It's like she's like, how 510 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: could you dislike Travis Kelsey or Patrick Maholmes, Andy Reid? 511 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 3: How would you like dislike them? 512 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 8: How do you hate Andy Reid? 513 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 7: He just wants to have a cheeseburger, Like I don't understand. 514 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: I think he is the most likable, really is. 515 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 8: The most likable. 516 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 7: I agree, and like when people are like I hate 517 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 7: Travis Kelsey, I'm like. 518 00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I know. 519 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: But then they'll watch that one penalty called. Were you saying, 520 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: all right, are you just going to hand right the 521 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy to the Chiefs? 522 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 7: I agree there were some very bad calls, but they 523 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: also didn't stop the I mean, Houston could have scored 524 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 7: a little bit more like. 525 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 8: Those calls were bad. 526 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 7: But you know, I'm not disagreeing that the refereeing is 527 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 7: very questionable when it comes to the Chiefs. 528 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 8: I don't disagree with that. 529 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 7: We do have one college men's basketball game going on 530 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 7: right now, Number nineteen Illinois, Number twelve Michigan State. They're 531 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 7: actually tied out fifty four with about eleven minutes to 532 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 7: go in the game. 533 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 8: And lastly, here the rich get richer. 534 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: The Los Angeles Dodgers encloser Tanner Sky an agreement on 535 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 7: a four year, seventy two million dollar contract. The report 536 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 7: is is, when this is made official, the Dodgers luxury 537 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 7: tax payroll for twenty twenty five will exceed three hundred 538 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 7: and seventy five million. It's about seventy million more than 539 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 7: the next highest team, which is Philadelphia. 540 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: Well, there's a team that has also entered into that. 541 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Everybody hates the Dodgers. I mean there are social media's boy, 542 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: like the Dodgers are ruining major League Baseball. 543 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: Yes, and it. 544 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: Really all stems from Shoho Tani essentially deferring his entire contract. 545 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 7: Which players can opt to do that on other teams. 546 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 7: It's not like it's only the Dodgers. 547 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: It's just what it's given the Dodgers license to literally 548 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: sign everything. 549 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 8: It's true, life is unfair, ain't it that? 550 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: If again, if you're a Dodger fan, you're like, yeah, yeah, in. 551 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 6: The world's smallest violin right now? 552 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, for real exactly, So all right, mon, 553 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: it's a great stuff. 554 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: And again, we are a little. 555 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: Less than an hour and a half away from kickoff 556 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: of that Rams Eagles game, and yes, it will be 557 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: snowing throughout that entire game. So getting back to Patrick Mahomes, 558 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah again, and I've said this before, as you know, 559 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: I made the argument that when we talk about franchise 560 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks currently in the NFL, there's one. There's one. I mean, 561 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: as great as Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and Joe 562 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Burrell r. You have one franchise quarterback. Because my bar 563 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: is like Tom Brady level. But this is this is 564 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: a but this is a guy now who is sixteen 565 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: and three in the postseason, sixteen and three. This is 566 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: a team that has now gone to seven consecutive AFC 567 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: Championship games with this guy at quarterback. Okay, so when 568 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: you look at his resume, it dwarfs everybody else. 569 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 570 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: Dwarfs it, just like Tom Brady's resume dwarfed everybody else. 571 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 572 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: But back then, Steve, this is my problem. So we've 573 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: worked together for a very long time. While Tom Brady 574 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: was still playing in the NFL, you never used to 575 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: say there's only one franchise quarterback. You used to admit 576 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: that there were others, that there were other quarterbacks that 577 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: you could build a franchise around, or maybe your criteria hold. 578 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: On, hold on, because there was that ten year gap. 579 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: Remember Brady had a ten year gap from whining his 580 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: third Super Bowl to win he is fourth Super Bowl. 581 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, you were some people blame you for 582 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: that gap, but anyway, you know, I'll take you a 583 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: little bit there. 584 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: You were there for three of those ten years. 585 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, yeah, but there is no gap right 586 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: now with Mahomes. I mean, he came out of the 587 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: box and in seven years as a starting quarterback. He 588 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: has had his team in the ASC Championship game seven 589 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: out of seven, so he hasn't had that gap yet 590 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: the way Brady had. 591 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm going to give you my franchise quarterback criteria, and 592 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: then I want you to give yours, because there's a 593 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: lot of people who are wringing their hands because they're 594 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: listening to us in cities where they truly feel like 595 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: they have their franchise quarterback and they're eager for them 596 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: to build around them. 597 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: So here's my criteria. 598 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: My criteria, and this obviously broadens the scope to many 599 00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: more quarterbacks than just one. Is a quarterback who who 600 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: can win games where everything is going wrong, but he 601 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: can make it right right your defense didn't show up 602 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: that day, maybe your running back has fumbled the ball twice. 603 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: You know the team needs you to do something special, 604 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: and you deliver, and not just once in a while, 605 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: but on a consistent basis. When things are going wrong, 606 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: the team can watch a star at quarterback pull them 607 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: through it. Okay, So that's one criteria. Another criteria is durability. 608 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: You gotta be durable if you want to be a 609 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: franchise quarterback. I'm sorry if you've been hurt all the time. 610 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 4: Can your team really build around a guy who's not there? 611 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: The answer is no. So that's the reason why it's 612 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: really high on my list. So durability is important. Playmaking 613 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: ability has to be in the. 614 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: Very good to great category. 615 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: Your ability to throw the ball down the field or 616 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: stress the line of scrimmage with your legs has to 617 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: be there. One or both of those things would be nice, 618 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: but has to be there. And then let's put into 619 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: more of a meta view. You have to be the 620 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: type of player that a team can truly consider a 621 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: cornerstone and build around you. They're not building around your limitations. 622 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: They're feeding the positive aspects of your game. They're not 623 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: trying to hide the things you're bad at. They're actually 624 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: trying to accentuate the positive parts of your game. That's 625 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback, and I could give you probably. 626 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: Ten of them. 627 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 4: I could feel pretty secure giving you about ten names. 628 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: Maybe something less than that, maybe it's eight in the NFL. Now, 629 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: what's your criteria? 630 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So again, when we talk about Patrick Mahomes before 631 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: last season, there was a little asterisk do next to 632 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: his success in the postseason. That was the Chiefs had 633 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: never had a road playoff game against super. 634 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: Bowls or neutral sites. That changed last year. 635 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: You know who he beat on the road last year, 636 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the Bills, and then Lamar Jackson the 637 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: Ravens in their home field. Right that, to me, this 638 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: is where he separated. So when you talk about what 639 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: we all agree are like the tie for second between 640 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: josh Al, Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow, the only guy 641 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: that has to win over Patrick Mahomes in the postseason 642 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: is Joe Burrow in that inexplicable second half collapse by. 643 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: The Chiefs in the ANFC Championship game. 644 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: So I cannot put any of those guys in the conversation. 645 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: When I say the name Patrick Mahomes. 646 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: I understand that. 647 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: If I label him the franchise quarterback with the idea 648 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: that the goal of every franchise is to win championships, 649 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: I cannot put those other three guys in the same category. 650 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 4: But come on, Steve, all right, and I'm really speaking 651 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: for people who are shouting at the radio at this point. 652 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: You're telling me that the only quarterback in the NFL 653 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: who you could see winning a Super Bowl, winning a 654 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: championship is Patrick Mahomes. 655 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: Right until somebody CRUs me. Otherwise, there's only let's think 656 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: about it. He's lost three playoff games, two to Tom Brady, 657 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: one once he in New England, went in Tampa, and 658 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: then to Joe Burrow. Okay, So if I'm saying, all right, 659 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: here are the franchise quarterback, I cannot put any current 660 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: quarterback in the same category as Patrick Mahomes. 661 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 662 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: Period. Well it's not a knock. I'm not saying they 663 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: are great quarterbacks. Lamark Jackson's gonna win a third MVP award, 664 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen I would take these and Joe Burrow. I 665 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: love Joe Burrow. I picked him to be the league's 666 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: MVP before the season, and had his team and made 667 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, he probably would have been. But that's we're talking. 668 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: When I established that there is a franchise quarterback and 669 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes, I'm sorry nobody else is in the conversation. 670 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: All right, Well, here's. 671 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: What I'll say, and I apologize for the beeping. I'm 672 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: in a room with a stopwatch and I will find it. 673 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: But here's what I will say about what everything you 674 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: just said. Tom Brady, albeit retired, I mean obviously was 675 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback. 676 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, okay. 677 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford in the interim, in the time of Mahomes 678 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 4: has won a championship. 679 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: Is he a franchise quarterback? 680 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: No? 681 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: See, But so that's. 682 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Where is Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl. 683 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: Well, well, and that's kind of my point. 684 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 4: If the criteria is having a quarterback talented enough to 685 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl championship, and there have been other 686 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: quarterbacks who have won, not only won super Bowl championships, 687 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 4: but also have won consistently over the course of their 688 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: career and have given their teams many, many bites at 689 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: that apple, so to speak, right getting to the postseason, 690 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 4: giving your team an opportunity to get there again. And 691 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 4: I'm not saying all of them play great in those 692 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 4: postseason runs or every single one of those postseason runs, 693 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 4: but I'm just saying. 694 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 3: Gave their team shot. 695 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: They are eliminated from your criteria because their names are 696 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: not Patrick Mahomes. 697 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 3: It just doesn't make that much sense. 698 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: They're outstanding quarterbacks, they're great quarterbacks, but in my definition 699 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: of franchise, there is one right now, and his name 700 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes. All right, on the other side, we 701 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: continue on in the conversation. We're going to start getting 702 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: ready for the games coming up today, starting with the 703 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: Rams and the Eagles, and some very eerie similarities that 704 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: could favor the team from LA. We'll explain. This is 705 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: Red Zone Radio, hight rolling along getting ready for the 706 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: two big games in the NFL, and then feel for 707 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the final four will be set next Sunday. Of course, 708 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: rich you and I will be here as we get 709 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: ready for the AFC and NFC championship games. Where and when, 710 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: well we're not quite sure. Well we know, we know this. 711 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: We know the AFC Championship game will be in Kansas City, 712 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: but as far as the NFC Championship still to be decided. 713 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: And if you're a Rams fan, I'd be feeling pretty 714 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: good right now. And I'll explain why. Three years ago 715 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: when won the Super Bowl. By the way, it's like 716 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: a trivia question, what's the last team not coached by Andreury, 717 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: not quarterback by Patrick Mahomes to win the Super Bowl? 718 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: That would be the Los Angeles Rams. That year, the 719 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: Rams were the four seed. This is the twenty twenty 720 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: one season. The lowest seed was the Well, the forty 721 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: nine Ers that year won on the road and beat 722 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. That was an upset. And then what 723 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: happened was, after getting a home win as the four seed, 724 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: the Rams go on the road against the two seed 725 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Tom Brady and get the win. 726 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: And then the number one seed, the Packers, inexplicably at home, 727 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: lose to Jimmy Garoppolo in the forty nine ers. So 728 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, the Rams as a four 729 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: seed were hosting the NFC Championship game against the forty 730 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: nine ers won that won the Super Bowl. Well, the 731 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: very same scenario could play out this year. If the 732 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 1: Rams win today in Philadelphia knocking out the two seed 733 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: on the road, the one seed is bye bye. And yes, 734 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: the Rams would be hosting the Washing Commanders next week 735 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: if they win today in the NFC Championship game. And 736 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: oh that's right, the same suspects are there, Sean McVay 737 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford. 738 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 2: It's hard to predict. 739 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: A game under extreme weather conditions, and by all accounts, 740 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening in Philadelphia today. 741 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 2: And I've asked you this many times. 742 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: Rich you know, in terms of extreme weather, whether it's 743 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: extreme cold, extreme heat, extreme rain, extreme wind, extreme snow. 744 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: You say, well, snow is the least offensive. But do 745 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: you see what I'm talking about? On top of the 746 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: fact that obviously Los Angeles, with these horrific wildfires, has 747 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: been very much in the spotlight, and the Rams after 748 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: their devastation of the Vikings last week nine sacks in 749 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: the game, it readily admitted after the game they were 750 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: inspired in a certain representation of the city of Los 751 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: Angeles with these catastrophes happening in the city. Could it 752 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: be that the Rams, who pretty much entered the playoffs 753 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: as an afterthought, could indeed be a team of destiny. 754 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 4: I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't put it past them. 755 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 4: I really wouldn't. Because here, here's the truth, and we're 756 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: getting way ahead of ourselves because they have to win 757 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 4: three games to win a championship. Here, here's the thing 758 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: about momentum. When something catches fire and I'm not using 759 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 4: this because of the recent events here, but we know 760 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: how it works. 761 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 3: It spreads quick and it captivates. 762 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: And when you're talking about emotion, especially like that, that 763 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 4: really is what we're seeing with the Rams, they've sort 764 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 4: of taken a recent tragedy that has had a great 765 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 4: effect on not only the players but also coaches staff. 766 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: Of the Rams, people who live in that air. 767 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, and it feels like they've used that more 768 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: as fuel to motivate them than as an excuse. Having 769 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 4: their home field advantage shifted to Arizona didn't slow them 770 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 4: down at all. So I think the Rams, outside of 771 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 4: the Commanders, who happen to be waiting for them if 772 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 4: they win today, are the most dangerous team left in 773 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 4: the playoff field. It's kind of a coin flip between 774 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 4: them and the Commanders because it's hard to stop a 775 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: motivated team like that, and the Commanders, they've they've proven 776 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: that they are something to be messed with. 777 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: So look out for the NFC side of this bracket. 778 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and let's keep in mind, of course, 779 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: and we'll have much more on this as the show progresses, 780 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the kickoff of that game. 781 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: These two teams met during the regular season, they did, 782 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: and it wasn't even close. 783 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 3: No, it was not. I mean, the. 784 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: Eagles absolutely obliterated the Rams in that game, ran all 785 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: over them, and the question is where running is going 786 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: to be at a premium with bad weather? Can the 787 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: Rams find a way to stop that Eagles running attack? 788 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: All right, you got much more on that, and of 789 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: course the big game coming up later between the Bills 790 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: and Ravens. This is Red Zone Radio. One hour away 791 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: from kickoff of that game between the Rams and Eagles. 792 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: Later the Ravens and the Bills, and by days in 793 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: the four teams heading to the conference championship games will 794 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: be set. 795 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio. 796 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from the ti Raq dot com studios. 797 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: Ty rack dot com're gonalp get you there, an unmatched 798 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: selection fast ree shipping, free road as a protection over 799 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: ten thousand recommended installers. Tire rack dot com the way 800 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: tire buying should be. By the way, coming up here 801 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: in about oh seventeen eighteen minutes, dear friend of ours, 802 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: John Paul Morosi makes his return to the show. We'll 803 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: talk to JP about well, we really haven't talked to 804 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: him rich since the playoffs began in Major League Baseball 805 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: as we got into the NFL season, So we'll talk 806 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: about obviously how the Dodgers got back on top of 807 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: the baseball world and how it looks like they're hell 808 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: been on staying there for a long time with all 809 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: their off season activities. And the next Tuesday coming up here, 810 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: just in two days, the Baseball Hall of Fame Class 811 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five will be announced, so we'll talk 812 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: about a lot of that coming up with John Paul Morosi. 813 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 4: I'm excited to talk to John Paul because obviously we've 814 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 4: had a couple of major signings so far this offseason, 815 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: as we are approaching a month away from pitchers and 816 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 4: catchers in most cities, it's really an exciting time to 817 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 4: be a baseball fan in certain cities, Yes, And all 818 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's becoming, at least this offseason, ever 819 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: more obvious that if you are a fan of certain franchises, 820 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 4: you're really excited for the future prospects, and if you're 821 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 4: a fan of other franchises, you know, it almost feels 822 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 4: hopeless in some way. And I want to ask him 823 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 4: about how baseball fixes that, whether just the mere appearances, 824 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, because that's just the way I feel. 825 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 4: Maybe not everybody feels that way, and maybe it's not 826 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 4: even true. Maybe some of these teams that we're not 827 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 4: going to see coming have a major impact on the postseason. 828 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 4: But what the Dodgers are doing, what the Philadelphia Phillies 829 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 4: are doing, I mean, I congratulate them for their success 830 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 4: and for their commitment to winning, and all the money 831 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 4: that they're pouring into their franchise is not every fan 832 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 4: base gets to enjoy that though. 833 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: No it doesn't. 834 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: And that's again when we talk about the strength of 835 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: the National Football League almost a forgotten name now it 836 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: should not be, because no single individual had a greater 837 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: impact on the NFL than Pete Roselle. So Pete Roselle, 838 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: of course with the commissioner of the NFL for many 839 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: many years, but where his greatest impact was as he 840 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: was out of he was like a tenth choice when 841 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: Burt Bell, who had been a long time commissioner of 842 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, had passed away, and I expectedly they need 843 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: a replacement. Welling Temera, who was the owner of the 844 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: Giants at the time, was trumpeting a young guy named 845 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: Pete rosel He was a former PR guy turned general 846 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: manager of the Rams. But he knew marketing and he 847 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: also understood the strength of equalizing the playing field as 848 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: much as possible, and he was the one that established 849 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: an equal distribution of the network television funds for the NFL, 850 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: and that has changed. That was a game changer. It 851 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: allowed the Green Bays of the world to compete with 852 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: the New Yorks of the world. See that's that, and 853 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: that's why that kind of combetitive balance financially has enabled 854 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: franchises like the Commanders in a single season going from 855 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: four wins to twelve wins and now a ticket to 856 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game with a rookie quarterback. 857 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 4: Like like the Chargers, right, who you know they let's 858 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 4: put it this way, and I understand, like maybe they 859 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 4: didn't make enormous improvements their football team, but Lad McConkey 860 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: was taken in the second round. 861 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 3: If Lad McConkey doesn't come to the. 862 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 4: Chargers, they have a completely different season because he ended 863 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 4: up smashing rookie records for receiving. Like it's one of 864 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 4: those It's one of those things where the great lie 865 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 4: that's told to young athletes is this is a true meritocracy. 866 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 3: It's not not. 867 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 4: Once you leave high school and sometimes in high school, 868 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 4: by the way, but once you leave high school and 869 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 4: you go to college, all of a sudden, money starts 870 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 4: moving decisions, and then when you get to the NFL, 871 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 4: nobody's hiding it. And really in college nobody's hiding it either. 872 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: But when you get to the NFL, money's the objected. However, 873 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 4: they've created the best mouse trap to ensnare the most 874 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 4: amount of fans because they've created what I would argue 875 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 4: is the fairest product city to city, franchise to franchise 876 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 4: because of the salary cap and also the salary basement, 877 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: payers are getting played paid handsomely, and you are having 878 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 4: great parody across league because there are restrictions on how 879 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 4: much some of these franchises can spend. And I think that, well, 880 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 4: I hate that players are limited in how much they 881 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 4: can make, and I could go on to die drive 882 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 4: for hours and hours about that. I do think it 883 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 4: makes for a better sports product. 884 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: All Right, they're showing some of the scene in Philadelphia 885 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: right now. They've shown scenes with snow falling, snow not falling. 886 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: I guess they're going back and forth right now. The 887 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: expectation is there's going to be a lot of snow 888 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: all right. Here is the stat that the Rams are 889 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: going to have to fix if they're going to have 890 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: a chance to win in Philadelphia. 891 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 3: Today's here. 892 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: So these two teams played earlier this year at Sofi Stadium. 893 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley twenty six carries two hundred fifty five yards. 894 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: Remember that was the game that suddenly catapulted him into 895 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: the conversation to possibly break Eric Dickerson single season rushing 896 00:45:53,200 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: record MVP twenty six carries two hundred and fifty five yards. 897 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: And I remember listening to that game thinking, I mean, 898 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: if they won, he could break that record. Remember, Adrian 899 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: Peterson holds the single game record of two hundred and 900 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: ninety six yards. No NFL running backs ever top three hundred. 901 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: You felt like Barkley could have done. 902 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 3: At that day. 903 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: So if you're the Rams, because I was doing television 904 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: over the weekend and we were getting some soundbites from 905 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: Sean McVay obviously addressing the game earlier that the Eagles 906 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: won easily thirty seven to twenty at so Far and 907 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: he says, our defense is much different than it was then. 908 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: Still Jalen Hurts at quarterback. You know you got aj Brown, 909 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean they got weapons. You know in the passing 910 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: game with the Eagles, do you go all out and 911 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: just stack the box in an effort to slow down Barkley. 912 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: How do you exactly try to reverse what happen when 913 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 1: these two teams met earlier this year? 914 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 4: Who So, when I was in New England, we had 915 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 4: a mission every game, and Bill Belichick made no qualms 916 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 4: about what a team did exceedingly well. He concentrated less 917 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 4: on what we did well, and he focused on what 918 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 4: our opponent was doing well. And I'm gonna speak for 919 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 4: both teams here because obviously both teams should be doing 920 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 4: a little bit of this. But when you are looking 921 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 4: at the Philadelphia Eagles, what is your biggest problem? 922 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 3: I mean, what is your biggest threat offense? Defense? Who 923 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: is the problem? It's Sae Kwon Barkery. 924 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 4: So circle his number and find a way so that 925 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 4: the Eagles, if they win this game, they do it, 926 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 4: they do it without him, Like limit his impact the 927 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 4: thing they want to get to the limit his impact. 928 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 4: Tie their hand behind their back and say, okay, now 929 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 4: beat us, Can you still can Jalen Hurts generate enough 930 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 4: you know downfield targets? Can you know, can can you 931 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 4: loosen our defense? Because our goal is to stop Saquon Barkley. 932 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 4: But look, we're realists. If you start throwing shots over 933 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 4: our head to DeVante Smith or aj Brown, or you 934 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 4: connect with Goddard a couple of times in the deep 935 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 4: middle of the field, like, yeah, maybe we're gonna have 936 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 4: to make adjustments. But if you can't do that, we 937 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 4: are going to smother the hell out of Saquon Barkley. 938 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 4: We're gonna throw a wet blanket over your plan. We're 939 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 4: gonna ruin your birthday party. You gotta find a way 940 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 4: to adjust to that, and if you can't, we will 941 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 4: choke you to death. That's the plan against the Eagles. 942 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,919 Speaker 4: If you're smart. I think Sean McVay is a smart guy. 943 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 4: I think that defense has been playing better defense lately. 944 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 4: Now put the show on the other foot. What do 945 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 4: the Rams want to do? 946 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 3: Well? 947 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 4: The Rams, they they want to get the ball in 948 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 4: the hands of Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua. 949 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 3: There's no question about it. 950 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 4: So I'm not saying you have to sacrifice the line 951 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 4: of scrimmage, but you better make sure those guys are 952 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 4: well covered. So whether you've got to commit an extra 953 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 4: body to Cooper on certain routes or extra body to. 954 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 3: Pookin a coup on certain routes. 955 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 4: You You basically, what you allow the Rams to do 956 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 4: is win between the twenties. 957 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna give you the middle of the field. 958 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 3: That's fine, but. 959 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna make it really hard on you to score 960 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 4: on us in the red area. 961 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 3: So try to throw the Cooper cup. I dare you. 962 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 4: In fact, our bed is you're gonna throw to him, 963 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 4: it's gonna fall in complete, or we're gonna intercept it 964 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 4: because we've been practicing that all week long. Okay, if 965 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 4: if you try to throw the Pookinakua, we're gonna cover 966 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 4: him up too. So you're either gonna have to find 967 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 4: a way to run it in every single time, or 968 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna be settling for three points. And now again, 969 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 4: if they find a way to run it in every 970 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 4: single time, then the Eagles have to make an adjustment. 971 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 4: But you have to force a team to play left handed. 972 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 4: That is the only you can win against special players. 973 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you mentioned about Nakoua and Kupp 974 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: in that earlier game, and again a very one sided 975 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: Eagles victory. Poka Nakua nine catches one hundred and seventy 976 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: to one hundred and seventeen yards Cooper Cup at eight catches, 977 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: they're sixty sixty yards, not a lot of yards, and 978 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: did score a touchdown. So both teams were able to 979 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: get the ball in the hands of the people they wanted. 980 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: It's just that the Eagles did it better. 981 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, Stafford was sacked five times in 982 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: that game for forty five yards and losses. That's a lot. 983 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: That's nine yards of sack. That's too many. So any 984 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: numbers remotely like that and it's going to be a 985 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: tough day for the Rams. 986 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: All right, we'll have much more on that game. 987 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: Obviously, we'll get into our preview of the huge matchup 988 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: between the Ravens and Bills. But on the other side, 989 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,959 Speaker 1: we're just gonna switch gears for a moment and catch 990 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: up with our dear friend. He is our MLB insider 991 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: here at Fox Sports Radio, the great John Paul Morosi. 992 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: This is Red Zone Radio. 993 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 3: All right. 994 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: We are now forty minutes away kick Rams Eagles, and 995 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: it is expected to snow a lot in Philadelphia today 996 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: for that matchup, and as far as tonight's game is 997 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: concerned between the Bills and the Ravens, temperature expected at. 998 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: Eleven degrees. 999 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: And it's only going to get colder after that, so 1000 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: we'll get much more into the NFL football. But joining 1001 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: us right now is one of the very special people 1002 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: in our world and the world many out there. He 1003 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: is just the elite, the best of the best at 1004 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: what he does. Of course, with the MLB network, he 1005 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,479 Speaker 1: knows the National Hockey League like no other. But here 1006 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: we just call him our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, 1007 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: Our dear friend John Pabarosi JP is join us right now, JP. 1008 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: Long time note talk, Happy New Year. How are you 1009 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: today too? 1010 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 3: Well? 1011 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 9: My friends, send our best wishes here from Michigan to 1012 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 9: all of you, especially those of you in California right now. 1013 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 9: And yeah, I did hear some reports that there was 1014 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 9: an NFL game here in Michigan last night. I wasn't 1015 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 9: sure if that actually happened or not. I'm kind of 1016 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 9: moving past that if there was a game here in Detroit, 1017 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 9: But as far as I know, the only games here 1018 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 9: these days are are hockey and basketball. The Pistons are 1019 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 9: playing better, the Wings are playing better since the coaching change. 1020 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 9: The Tigers are trying to build on their playoff appearance 1021 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 9: last year. And I just I missed whatever might have 1022 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 9: happened with the Lions the last couple of days. 1023 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, very difficult day. 1024 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 3: Indeed. 1025 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: Know this, though, your Michigan team did beat a team 1026 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: that is expected to win a national championship tomorrow, So 1027 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: we'll get into. 1028 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 2: That a little bit later on. 1029 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: I know Rich has got a lot of questions about 1030 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: the state of the game in baseball, but you know 1031 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: me and my Hall of Fame obsession, all right, So 1032 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to get this out. I got one now 1033 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: and I'll have one later Rich for. 1034 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 3: All right. 1035 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: So, the announcement for the Baseball Hall of Fame classes 1036 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: coming up on Tuesday in a couple of days, and 1037 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: it is expected that CC Sabbathia will be a first 1038 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, which is interesting to me because 1039 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: his career is almost identical to Andy Pettitt's. Their war 1040 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: is almost identical, their wins are almost identical, and if 1041 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: you look at their postseason pitching numbers, Anti Pettit has 1042 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: a slight edge in terms of wins and er, and 1043 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: yet Anti Pettitt hasn't gotten any traction at all in 1044 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: terms of the Hall of Fame. So how is it 1045 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: that the baseball writers believe that Sabathia is a first 1046 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer like usually reserved for the Randy 1047 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: Johnson's of the world or the Greg Maddoxes of the world, 1048 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: or looking into the future where the Max Scherz or 1049 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 1: Justin Berlin or Clayton Kershaw. That Sabbathia is a first 1050 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: ballot guy and anti pettit gets no attention at all. 1051 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 9: It's a fair question, I think in the case of Sabbathia, 1052 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 9: if you look at his strikeout numbers and what he 1053 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 9: was able to achieve in terms of reaching milestones in 1054 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 9: that regard when you surpass three thousand strikeouts, that is 1055 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 9: a massive number in the modern game, and certainly look 1056 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 9: at his ability to go more than thirty five hundred innings. 1057 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 9: I do think that is a piece of it. I 1058 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 9: also think from Petitt standpoint, of course, the acknowledgement that 1059 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 9: happened a long time ago, back in two thousand and 1060 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 9: seven about using HGH to recover from an elbow injury. 1061 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 9: I think that's for some people. While there was no suspension, 1062 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 9: I think that does enter the mind of some voters. 1063 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 9: For me, it's not reason enough to keep him out 1064 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 9: because there was no suspension there and that's always been 1065 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 9: my standard. If there's a suspension, as is the case 1066 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 9: with a rod MANI Ramirez, then I do not vote 1067 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 9: for the player, but absence that I do I always 1068 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 9: voted for Bonds for example, and Clements for that matter, 1069 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 9: So I don't have any issue with that in terms 1070 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 9: of keeping him out of the Hall of Fame. But 1071 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 9: it's a fair distinction to draw and the way in 1072 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 9: which though I think with CC's case historically significant career 1073 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 9: in time with Cleveland, Milwaukee, with the Yankees, helping him 1074 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 9: win the World Series in nine and honestly it's interesting 1075 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 9: not that this should have an impact on checking the 1076 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 9: box next to a player, but CC has had a 1077 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 9: very impactful post career in baseball. And for as much 1078 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 9: as there have been questions and people have said over 1079 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 9: the years that they would use the character clause as 1080 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 9: an occasion to keep someone out of the Hall of Fame, 1081 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 9: I think in CC's case it fairly utilizes the reason 1082 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 9: that to put him in. And because of how important 1083 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 9: his voice is in the game. He's in the commissioner's office, 1084 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 9: he's around the sport a lot, and I think that 1085 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 9: his contributions to the sport since he has been finished 1086 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 9: as a player. I think actually add an augment his 1087 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 9: playing resume in the minds of some voters. 1088 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 4: Hey, JP wrote, Sasaki, if I were going to give 1089 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 4: you three paragraphs and ask you to use two of 1090 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 4: them to describe who he is, why he is important 1091 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 4: to baseball, why the Dodgers won this, and and and 1092 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 4: then maybe the last paragraph to talk about his expectations. 1093 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 4: Fill in, fill in that that worksheet and have it 1094 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 4: back to do it about two minutes. 1095 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 9: Go wow, okay so Roki Sasaki and I appreciate it, 1096 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 9: of course, for those bringing everybody up. 1097 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 3: To speed here. 1098 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 9: He is a Los Angeles Dodger, now joining Yoshinobu Yamamoto 1099 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 9: and the Great show Aotani among the Dodgers Japanese superstars. 1100 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 9: Kasaki is a younger player than the other two. He 1101 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 9: still has some polish to do in terms of his 1102 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 9: repertoire and his command and pitch making and start to start. However, 1103 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 9: the arm strength and the stuff are undeniable, and people 1104 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 9: in the game have been talking about his arrival for 1105 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 9: a long time. He came over earlier than expected because 1106 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 9: he wants to one day be considered the best ever 1107 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 9: pitcher to come from Japan and pitch in Major League Baseball, 1108 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 9: and after surveying the landscape rich he decided that the 1109 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 9: Dodgers would be the best place for him to go 1110 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 9: because they've had such great success in integrating players from 1111 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 9: Japan into Major League Baseball, and so it's interesting Sosaki 1112 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 9: is on some level a more reserved personality than Yamamoto, 1113 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 9: and somewhat paradoxically, because of that, the best place for 1114 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,919 Speaker 9: him to go may well have been in the Los 1115 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 9: Angeles Dodgers because he's not He's not only is he 1116 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 9: not the biggest star in his team, he's probably not 1117 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 9: even the biggest number one or number two Japanese star 1118 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 9: on his own team. He's probably number three right now. 1119 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 9: And oh, by the way, you got Freeman and Bets 1120 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,479 Speaker 9: and so in LA he is a star. With other 1121 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 9: teams he might have been these of the pitching staff, 1122 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 9: and I think that comfort level was one of the 1123 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 9: main reasons why he opted to sign with the Los 1124 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 9: Angeles Dodgers, and certainly a lot of people around in 1125 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 9: the industry, whether it's the signing of Sasaki the more 1126 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 9: recent signing as well of Tanner Scott for the Dodgers, 1127 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 9: they their limit on the ability to sign players seemingly 1128 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 9: knows no end, and I do think that it's causing 1129 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 9: some level of consternation, certainly for Blue Jays fans, for 1130 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 9: Padres fans, for Giants fans, and a great many other 1131 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 9: fans around Major League Baseball. 1132 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: All Right, I know that Dodger fans that are listening 1133 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: to this question will say boohoo, but a lot of 1134 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: people are getting a little upset at just how the 1135 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers are now spending money with a luxury tax payroll 1136 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: now approaching four hundred million dollars and no end in sight. 1137 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: Is this good for the hole that one team like 1138 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I mean, the Phillies are up there, the 1139 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: Yankees are up there, but the Dodgers are at a 1140 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: different level right now than we've ever seen. Is this 1141 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: good for the whole of Major League Baseball? 1142 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 9: No, no, it's not. And we can talk about different 1143 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 9: ways that, whether it's MLB's perspective or the union's perspective, 1144 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 9: could address this in the next CBA. Do you have 1145 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 9: to have a salary floor and a salary cap? Do 1146 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 9: you have to make it a hard cap where there 1147 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 9: have to be a period of time where there's more 1148 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 9: of a gradual transition to a hard cap. Whatever it 1149 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 9: may be. The simple answer, which is the one that 1150 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 9: I gave you, is no, it's not good. The Dodgers 1151 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 9: are on some level. Let's think about this. 1152 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 3: If you go back. 1153 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 9: Twelve thirteen years when they were going through the bankruptcy 1154 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 9: proceeding the divorce of the the courts and everything else 1155 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 9: that was happening there, that was a difficult time and 1156 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 9: there were people very concerned about where the Dodgers were going. 1157 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 9: But now, of course it's quite the opposite, and we're 1158 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 9: seeing the full might of this particular team, and the 1159 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 9: way that the World Series went, even against the Yankees, 1160 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 9: that they won that series in five games, and even 1161 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 9: with those two financial behemoths there, it did have the 1162 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 9: feel of the hals versus have nots kind of a 1163 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 9: World Series. Now. I would also point out we have 1164 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 9: gone a quarter century without repeat champions in Major League Baseball, 1165 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 9: and the Dodgers were one game away in the first 1166 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 9: round from getting knocked out by the Padres in four games. 1167 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 9: So it's I often have a little bit of a 1168 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 9: cautionary tale there to say, yeah, by the end, they 1169 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 9: appeared to be an inevitable and dominant World Series champion, 1170 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 9: but that wasn't always the case, and they've now had 1171 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 9: to basically sign two rotations worth of pitchers. And we'll 1172 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 9: see how this experiment goes with are they all gonna pitch? 1173 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 9: We're erely all going to pitch. There's a lot of 1174 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 9: very valid questions, but the issue that you're getting at 1175 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 9: the correct one, which is, look at the Dodgers relative 1176 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 9: to what the even the padres. Their lack of spending 1177 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 9: this winner amid some ownership turmoil is a concern. The 1178 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 9: lack of spending for teams like the Pirates. The Tigers 1179 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 9: made the postseason and really haven't had much of a 1180 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 9: very impactful offseason. So it clearly is not the best 1181 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 9: from from the standpoint of competitive balance, and it's going 1182 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 9: to be up to MLB in the Union to find 1183 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 9: the best workable solution that results in a in a 1184 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 9: product that is more universally exciting. Because I'll say that 1185 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 9: I'll make it a very quick point as we're moving 1186 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 9: towards a time where MLB may want to ventralize some 1187 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 9: of the broadcasting under the MLB umbrella and whatever that 1188 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 9: looks like direct to consumer. If if all of your 1189 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 9: compelling stars are on one team. Good for business, you 1190 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 9: need you need compelling stars on all the teams to 1191 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 9: make it a universally good product. And that has to 1192 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 9: be addressed by ownership by MLB and yes, the Union 1193 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 9: in the next several years. 1194 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. 1195 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 4: JP, you know, I mean quickly, I would ask you 1196 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 4: to maybe assess the biggest problems in Major League Baseball 1197 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 4: because you just spend some time here talking about the 1198 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 4: disparity of spending between teams. 1199 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 3: But also we know of the urgency. 1200 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 4: Problem, you know, the fact that there's one hundred and 1201 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 4: sixty two games and it dilutes the regular season. We 1202 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 4: know of the pace of play problem, you know, which 1203 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 4: you know the league has taken efforts to you know, 1204 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 4: with the pitch clock and with the runner on second 1205 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 4: to start extras in the regular season. They've tried to 1206 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 4: address those things. What would you say, though, is the 1207 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 4: most urgent problem. Is it the disparity of spending or 1208 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 4: or is it something else? 1209 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 9: I think they're tied together, Rich, I would say it's 1210 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 9: the accessibility of the product. And then and then the 1211 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 9: spending disparity are linked by the way because you've got teams, 1212 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 9: and let's let's be clear about this. Look at the 1213 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 9: teams that have been have Look at the teams. Let's 1214 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 9: say that we're involved in the Soto sweep stakes, Okay, 1215 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 9: Dodgers to an extent, Yankees, Mets, Blue Jays. They were 1216 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 9: basically the four big ones who were left at the end. 1217 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 4: And let's think. 1218 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 9: About what they all have in common. They all own 1219 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 9: their own television networks, Okay, and so they are the 1220 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 9: teams that have the wherewithal to do this. They have 1221 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 9: been largely able to They've been able to avoid a 1222 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 9: lot of the drama around who's going to broadcast our games? 1223 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 9: How are they going to be available direct to consumer? 1224 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 9: What's going on? They are able to avoid that, and 1225 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 9: I think that having that certainty of what their future 1226 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 9: looks like has been immeasurably important in their ability to 1227 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 9: court and ultimately sign free agents like the Mets did 1228 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 9: with Soto. Now think that the TV piece is inextricably 1229 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 9: linked to the ability to compete and sign. And we 1230 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 9: all know this. Whether you're thinking about buying a house, 1231 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 9: or thinking about taking on. 1232 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 3: A new job, or or moving whatever. 1233 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 9: It is, uncertainty makes you reluctant to invest. And when 1234 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 9: you've got a lot of teams that are not sure 1235 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 9: what their media revenues look like five ten years down 1236 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 9: the line, it makes it really hard for them to say, Okay, well, 1237 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 9: soda will give you three quarters of a billion dollars 1238 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 9: when you don't know what your future looks like. And 1239 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 9: I think that's precisely where a lot of teams and 1240 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 9: where too many teams find themselves today. 1241 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: All Right, I have to get in this final question 1242 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: again with the Hall of Fame vote. So you've talked 1243 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: openly very much that you cannot vote for the Alex 1244 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez. Is anyone that got busted with 1245 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: pds or cheaters, they will not get in on the 1246 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame on your ballot. And yet Carlos Beltron 1247 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,959 Speaker 1: is close. It might be this year and maybe next year, 1248 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a guy that helped engineer one of the most scandalous 1249 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: cheating episodes and the history of Major League Baseball in 1250 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: his final season as a member of the Houston Astros. 1251 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: So what is the difference in your opinion of Beltron 1252 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: engineering a cheating scandal that resulted in a World Series 1253 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 1: victory for the astros as opposed to those players that 1254 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: use peds. 1255 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a fair question. I think that that altering 1256 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 9: and stealing signals is obviously a concern. It is illegal 1257 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 9: by the rules of the game. In my mind, it 1258 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,919 Speaker 9: is not It is not as egregious as altering your 1259 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 9: body and altering your own physical competitive advantage. That that, 1260 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 9: to me is a different level the ped use and 1261 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 9: the ped suspension. I would point out that Beltron was 1262 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 9: not suspended himself, and you have to weigh out that 1263 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,919 Speaker 9: transgression in the context of his overall career and say 1264 01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 9: should we should we hold that up as a disqualifying 1265 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 9: situation that happened in the last year of his career 1266 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 9: when he was a role player effectively on that team. 1267 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 9: That transgression has already cost him a managerial job with 1268 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 9: the New York Mets, so he's already I think, paid 1269 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 9: a fairly significant penalty for that. And also you're talking 1270 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 9: about someone who's been a Roberto Clemente Award winner, who 1271 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 9: has opened to school in Puerto Rico and educated a 1272 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 9: bunch of kids there. So how do I balance all that? 1273 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 9: Do I say that because of one mistake in the 1274 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 9: final year of his career, and obviously it was a 1275 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 9: continuing mistake. It wasn't like a one off thing. It 1276 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 9: was to your point, it was a well fought out, 1277 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 9: engineered scheme. It was a big deal. It was a 1278 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 9: big problem. But do I consider that after he's now 1279 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 9: had to wait for multiple years in the ballot, costo 1280 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 9: a managerial job with the Mets. I think he has 1281 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 9: for me served enough of a punishment, especially in light 1282 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 9: of the fact that he was never suspended in the 1283 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 9: first place. 1284 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: There it is the great John Palmer us a JP. 1285 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: We could go all day, obviously, but it's great to 1286 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: have you back on board. 1287 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 2: We have plenty of talk. 1288 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: About it's going to be a busy offseason in MLB, 1289 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: And indeed, if Ohio State beats Notre Dame tomorrow, you 1290 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: can always say, yeah, guess what, we beat the national 1291 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 1: champions Yeah, it's. 1292 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 9: A great point, and I'm expecting that. You know, Monday, 1293 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 9: we've got OSU and ND and then maybe Tuesday we 1294 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 9: have the real national championship between Northern Illinois and Michigan. 1295 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 5: Right, I mean Northern Illinois. 1296 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 9: Notre Dame in Michigan beat Ohio State. So I think 1297 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 9: that basically that should be the the Uber Championship is 1298 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 9: Michigan versus North Illinois. 1299 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: There it is from the mouth of the great one himself, 1300 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the Great John Palmer ROSSI JP all the best and 1301 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you down the road. 1302 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 9: Sounds great, happening to you my friends. 1303 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: All about thanks having to here, John Palm Morosi. All right, 1304 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: let's find out what is a trending right now? As 1305 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: we we did a little bonus time with JP. 1306 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 2: It's been a long time since we had to catch 1307 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 2: up with here. 1308 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: You see, all Hall of Fame questions, I tell my 1309 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: questions are legit. 1310 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Steve, nobody would doubt that for me. 1311 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, Carlos Beltron had a Hall of Fame career, 1312 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: but it should be on his plaque. You know, helped 1313 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: engineer the biggest cheating scandal that resulted in the Astros 1314 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and him right when he had World Series. 1315 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean why not. I would be for it 1316 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 8: if we put that just as a disclaimer. 1317 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, just the bottom. 1318 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 3: Right now, I mean, how much room is on the. 1319 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 1: Plaque, Yeah, quite a bit. If you see these plaques, 1320 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of right. 1321 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1322 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: It used to be like like on Babe Ruths basically 1323 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: said it was you know, sault of the swat. He 1324 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 1: hit a lot of home runs. Now all of a 1325 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: sudden they have like, you know, details and everything else. 1326 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 7: Guys, Well, we're about twenty five, yeah, or so minutes 1327 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 7: away from kickoff. 1328 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 8: That's right. Eagles hosting the Rams. 1329 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,440 Speaker 7: Winner is going to face Washington and the NFC championship 1330 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 7: game after they took down the number one seed, the 1331 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 7: Lions yesterday forty five to thirty one. Then the other 1332 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 7: division a round later today six thirty Eastern Bills hosting 1333 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 7: the Ravens. Still we're not expected to see ze flowers 1334 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 7: for Baltimore later today. 1335 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 8: The winner is going to face the Chiefs and the 1336 01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 8: AFC Championship. 1337 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,600 Speaker 7: Came after they took down Houston yesterday twenty three to fourteen. 1338 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 8: We got some college hoops going on. 1339 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 7: Number twenty Michigan with the early lead over Northwestern twenty 1340 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 7: to eighteen, seven minutes to go in the first half, 1341 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 7: but number twelve Michigan State stays undefeated in their conference, 1342 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 7: extend their winning streak to eleven after just beating Illinois, 1343 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 7: Number nineteen Illinois eighty to seventy eight. I'm gonna give 1344 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 7: you some women's College hoops right now, because USC held 1345 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 7: on to defeat Indiana seventy three sixty six Juju Watkins 1346 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,640 Speaker 7: twenty two points and six rebounds. 1347 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 8: And then Yukon right now is crushing Seaton Hall. 1348 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 7: Last I checked, it was eighty four twenty six after 1349 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 7: three quarters. But Paige Beckers has eighteen points. She has 1350 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,879 Speaker 7: reached two thousand points in one hundred and two games, 1351 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 7: surpassing Maya Moore as the fastest Yukon player to reach 1352 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 7: two thousand points in program history. 1353 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 8: So you go, Page Beckers. 1354 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 7: At the Tennis Australian Open, Novak Djokvich won his fourth 1355 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 7: round match in straight sets. He set it to the 1356 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 7: quarterfinals where he's gonna face Carlos Algraz once again. 1357 01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,640 Speaker 8: But he did not do his postgame in interview. 1358 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 7: Because the official broadcast of the broadcaster of the tournament, 1359 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 7: Channel nine, one of their employees, Tony Jones, was doing 1360 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 7: an on air appearance and he called Djokovic overrated and 1361 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 7: it has been oh please, I'm sorry twins four yes, 1362 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 7: time Grand Slam champion, and so Djokovic did not do 1363 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 7: the interview after and he didn't specify his name, but 1364 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 7: he was like, I'm gonna let you guys handle this, 1365 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 7: but I'm not doing the interview crazy. 1366 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they just like saying, you know, Michael Jordan overrate. 1367 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, there are certain people that have 1368 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 1: set the bar so high exactly, but even if you 1369 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: don't like them on a personal level, you have to 1370 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge what they've done exactly. 1371 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 8: I'm with you. 1372 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 7: I couldn't believe that, and I was like, yeah, I 1373 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 7: wouldn't talk to them either. 1374 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, MONSI thank you very much. 1375 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 1: Once again, we are live from the tire rack dot 1376 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: com studios as we get ready for this game coming 1377 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: up between the Ego and the Rams. So as we're 1378 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 1: looking at this game coming up here, rich and I'm 1379 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 1: really looking forward to this. The weather again could be 1380 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 1: a factor in terms of the snow. You know, we 1381 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: talk about obviously Sae Kwon Barklay what he did earlier 1382 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: this year against the Rams at so far two hundred 1383 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,559 Speaker 1: and fifty five yards rushing. You know, MVP mentioned type 1384 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: of season that he had. By the way, looking back, 1385 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: did the Eagles do the right thing by sitting him 1386 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: out that last game against the Giants. We've had a 1387 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: few weeks now to think about that, but with the 1388 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Lions suddenly eliminated, now the path to the Super Bowl 1389 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: goes through Philadelphia on the NFC side. So, when it's 1390 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: all said and done, do you think if the Eagles 1391 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: win today and again, we'll be able to host the 1392 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,480 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game against the division rival, the Commanders? 1393 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 2: Is this looking like maybe? 1394 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 1: Uh? And and by the way, you made a clear 1395 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: you didn't think this was Siriani's decision. You thought this 1396 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: was Barkley's decision. But was the right decision made? 1397 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 1398 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 4: So I do I still feel firmly that if Saquon 1399 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 4: Barkley wanted to play that game, he would have been 1400 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 4: given that opportunity. I think it was more of a 1401 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 4: conversation than it was a decision by Siriani. I also 1402 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 4: think the reason why Siriani messaged it as his idea 1403 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,799 Speaker 4: was because that takes some of the questioning off of Saquon. So, Saquon, 1404 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 4: why don't you want to go for the record, So Saquon, 1405 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 4: what are you worried about getting hurt? 1406 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 3: So Saquon? 1407 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 4: So Saquon, Now all of a sudden, it's like, hey, 1408 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 4: direct your you know, I mean, if he gets tired 1409 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 4: of answering questions. 1410 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 3: Direct your questions to the guy who made the decision. 1411 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 4: You know, my head coach, uh decided that I wasn't 1412 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 4: going to play, and he felt that was what was 1413 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,960 Speaker 4: best for the team, and I agreed with him, and 1414 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 4: so we're moving on. And and so I think that 1415 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 4: this was all designed to take the pressure off of 1416 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 4: Saquon having to answer questions. But if he wanted to play, 1417 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 4: he would have been able to play. Here's the thing 1418 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 4: about it selfishly, independently from anything that was gonna. 1419 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 3: Happen with the Eagles. 1420 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 4: And I said this to you a couple weeks back, Steve, 1421 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 4: I think that Sakuon will regret this decision at some 1422 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 4: point in his life. I really do, unless this team 1423 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 4: goes on to win a Super Bowl, and even then 1424 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,560 Speaker 4: he may still regret. 1425 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 3: The decision for the rest of his life. 1426 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 4: But I will say this, if the Eagles accomplish what 1427 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 4: they couldn't a few years back against the Chiefs, if 1428 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley is the obvious reason, the obvious ad in 1429 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 4: the offseason and then did this incredible, incredibly selfless thing 1430 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 4: in his best season as an NFL football player, and 1431 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 4: then helps them win a Super Bowl this season. 1432 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 3: He is an automatic Hall of Famer. 1433 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 4: He I mean, like first ballot, hands down, no questions asked, 1434 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, because that level of sacrifice, personal sacrifice 1435 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 4: for team success is what will stir voters to put 1436 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 4: him in the hollowd Halls in Kent. 1437 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 3: All right. 1438 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: On the other side, we're gonna give you some other 1439 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: notes about this game coming up between. 1440 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 2: The Eagles and the Rams. 1441 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 1: For all the information you need, you know where to 1442 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 1: be because you're already listening. This is Red Zone Radio, 1443 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 1: all right, continue our countdown here to kick off between 1444 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Rams. 1445 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio. We're live from the Tairak. 1446 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Dot Com studios. By the way, the Rams twenty second 1447 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 1: in the league in rushing defense. Bad weather for Saquon 1448 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 1: Barklat It's a big yawn where he plays college ball, 1449 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: penn State right down the road. So I mean I. 1450 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 4: Also also born and raised in Pennsylvania exactly. I mean 1451 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 4: this the cold affects certain players. I wouldn't be worried 1452 01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:58,759 Speaker 4: about Saquon Barkley. 1453 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, I don't think it's going to have 1454 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 1: the great effect on the Rams as well. 1455 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,719 Speaker 2: I don't think weather is going to be the deciding factor. 1456 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean to me again, the deciding factor is the 1457 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Rams have got to find a way where Barclay not 1458 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,640 Speaker 1: only had two hundred and fifty five yards rushing the 1459 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 1: last time, he had over three hundred total yards from 1460 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: scrimmage as a short list. By the way, I think 1461 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,679 Speaker 1: a dozen players have ever done that in the history 1462 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: of the NFL. So if they don't find some way 1463 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 1: to neutralize them, it's over them. The Rams are going 1464 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 1: to be going home and the Eagles are going to 1465 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 1: be hosting the Commanders in the NFC Championship Game. I 1466 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 1: want to get Chris and bow here as we get 1467 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 1: ready for kickoff. Right now, they're showing the teams behind 1468 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 1: the scenes. Start with you, Chris. I know it's been 1469 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 1: a very different day for you. We certainly were all 1470 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,600 Speaker 1: expecting that the Lions were going to be hosting the 1471 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Bad day at the office, to say 1472 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 1: the least. You know, five turnovers, eight sacks to zero 1473 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: and zero and that was that. But what are your 1474 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on this game right now? Getting ready to kickoff 1475 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: or by the way, it's not snowing in the moment 1476 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 1: at least, what I'm seeing, but it will be snowing 1477 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Your thoughts her Eagles, Rams. 1478 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 10: So I think so, first off, it is nice to 1479 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 10: get back to a very familiar spot for me, which 1480 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 10: is just paying attention to the rest of the NFL 1481 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 10: playoffs with not having to worry about a team, which 1482 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,679 Speaker 10: is very familiar for me. Yes, but looking at this, 1483 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 10: I know it's going into hostile territory, but I still 1484 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 10: maybe it's the spirit of the moment, Maybe it's Los 1485 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 10: Angeles and everything, Maybe it's Puka Nakua and like how 1486 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 10: this offense has been rolling a little bit, or maybe 1487 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 10: it's Matt Stafford who's always played up to these moments 1488 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 10: very well. I just I feel like, and maybe it's 1489 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 10: just Jared Verse in parts of this defense, but I 1490 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 10: really just kind of feel myself leaning Rams in this game, 1491 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 10: how they handled the Vikings, how they're coming in here 1492 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,600 Speaker 10: with a lot of just energy on their side. I 1493 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,600 Speaker 10: am going to go with Los Angeles. 1494 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,679 Speaker 1: Wow, going with the Rams, and again at least Matthew 1495 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Stafford making it clear that I still think he's got 1496 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: something to say about being the best quarterback in the NFC. 1497 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 10: Where we're christening Jaden Daniels right now, and I think 1498 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 10: that's right. But I think Stafford is still he's still 1499 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 10: the king to get knocked off. 1500 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: Well, if he were to run the table and get 1501 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: the Rams a second Super Bowl, even I would have 1502 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,440 Speaker 1: to admit that he would be Hall of Fame guarantee. 1503 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 1: All right, Bo, you are decked out in your Eagles 1504 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: gear right now again the Eagles blowing out the Rams 1505 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: as they did earlier this year at Sofi Stadium. Is 1506 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 1: it going to be similar in Philadelphia? Worse close? How 1507 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: do you see it? 1508 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 6: I mean, the playoffs are always tougher than regular season, 1509 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 6: so you throw that out. I don't know if it 1510 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 6: was you Rich that mentioned yesterday, maybe it was Jared 1511 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 6: or Brian. But as good as the Rams front four 1512 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 6: is on defense and as young as they are, the 1513 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 6: Eagles offensive line is littered with Pro Bowlers and all pros. Like, 1514 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,679 Speaker 6: it's just a severe mismatch there. And if it's snowing, 1515 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 6: you're gonna get a heavy dose of Saquon Bark. So 1516 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 6: I don't really know how the Rams can hold up 1517 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 6: against that. They are more than welcome to reprove me wrong, 1518 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 6: but it just does not feel like it's it's the 1519 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,599 Speaker 6: Rams day. 1520 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 4: To day, I would say this game goes this way. 1521 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 4: Whoever has the early lead has the best chance to 1522 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 4: win this game, because I think if it's the Philadelphia Eagles, 1523 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 4: they can impose their will all game long and play 1524 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,000 Speaker 4: bullyball just like they want to. Yeah, they want to 1525 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 4: feature Saquon Barkley in the run game. They want to. 1526 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,680 Speaker 4: They want to, obviously. I mean if they if he 1527 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 4: carries it twenty seven times, they win this football game. 1528 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 4: If he carries it thirty times, there's no debt they're going. 1529 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 3: To crush them. 1530 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 4: They want to just hand the ball to him, their 1531 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 4: bell cow, over and over and over again. But if 1532 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 4: the Rams get out to an early lead, what does 1533 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 4: that do? Almost exactly, it starts to put pressure on Philadelphia, Like, hey, yeah, 1534 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 4: we could handle as Saquon, but all of a sudden, 1535 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 4: like we may need to start pumping the ball downfield 1536 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 4: and getting some chunk plays here, especially if the Rams 1537 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 4: are gonna score quickly. 1538 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 3: You know, so I think that to me. Look, I'm 1539 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 3: leaning Rams as well. 1540 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 4: I agree with what Boja said about the mismatchup front 1541 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,599 Speaker 4: on the offensive line for the Philadelphia Eagles against an 1542 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 4: undersized and very inexperienced Rams defensive front. But I'm leaning 1543 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 4: Rams because my trust is that Sean mcvay's opening script 1544 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 4: will allow them to get on the board early and 1545 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 4: potentially often, and that's going to put the Philadelphia Eagles 1546 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 4: in a bind. 1547 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Eagles do have to pass. Remember last 1548 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 1: week with the nine sacks against Sam Darnald. By the way, 1549 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,600 Speaker 1: five of those nine sacks that I saw, rich, I 1550 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 1: thought they were free sacks. Yeah, where Darnald just froze 1551 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 1: instead of getting rid of the ball. So it's not 1552 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: all on that offensive line. But the Rams set a 1553 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: record playoff record. At least eight players had it credit 1554 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: for least off a sack. So you wondered, how's life 1555 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: after Aaron Donald, Well, they found a way to still 1556 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 1: make it effective. I'm getting ready for what this is 1557 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,000 Speaker 1: going to be. Is going to be the Eagles, It's 1558 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 1: going to be the Rams. We got it all cover 1559 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 1: for you right here. This is Red Zone Radio getting 1560 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: ready for two more divisional playoff games on this NFL Sunday. 1561 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 1: This is Red Zone Radio. We're broadcasting live from the 1562 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 1: ti rag dot com studios tier rag dot Com. We're 1563 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna have get you there and on Matt's selection fast 1564 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 1: free shipping free road has a protection over ten thousand 1565 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: recommend an installers tire rag dot com the way tire 1566 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: buying should be. All right, we're getting ready for kickoff 1567 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 1: now between the Rams and the Eagles. Right now, the 1568 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:48,679 Speaker 1: weather conditions are this cloudy, no snow yet. Snow they 1569 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 1: say is on the way. Once it starts, it will 1570 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 1: not stop. Temperatures in the low thirties feels like the 1571 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: mid twenties. Wind is not a major factor, so at 1572 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 1: least for now, Rich as we get this game started 1573 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:06,559 Speaker 1: and there is no snow, you get a sense that 1574 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 1: the Rams they have to get out quickly here, yes, 1575 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 1: they you know, and they need to take advantage of 1576 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 1: their greatest strength, which is Matthew Stafford throwing to Puka 1577 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:24,839 Speaker 1: Nakua and Cooper Cup. Because once the snow starts falling, 1578 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,680 Speaker 1: then you know, it could change the whole dynamic of 1579 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,680 Speaker 1: how this game is played. So it just seems imperative 1580 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 1: that the Rams. I don't know yet who's going to 1581 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 1: get the ball first, but if it if it is 1582 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,879 Speaker 1: the Rams, or even if it's the Eagles, but whenever 1583 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 1: the Rams have the ball before the snow starts falling. 1584 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 1: They got to take advantage, and and and and look, 1585 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 1: you're a seven and a half point dog on the road. 1586 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 1: Everyone's expecting Eagles to win this game. They blew you 1587 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: out on your home field. It's I hate to say 1588 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: have nothing to lose, because that's not true. I mean, 1589 01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,600 Speaker 1: you have the same stake in this game that the 1590 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 1: Eagles do. But I'm willing to take some shots early 1591 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,400 Speaker 1: in this game. If i'm the Rams, I agree. 1592 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 4: And I think Sean McVay, who's inarguably one of the 1593 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 4: greatest coaches in the game right now, absolutely and an 1594 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 4: offensive minded coach, has sat down in the lab with 1595 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 4: his other coaches, the other voices in the room, and 1596 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 4: his quarterback Matthew Stafford, who's been here, done it before, 1597 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 4: and they're going to come up with the best opening 1598 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 4: twenty plays or so that they could put together. 1599 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 2: By the way, the Eagles are receiving the opening kickoff. 1600 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 4: And it's going to be interesting to see what they do. 1601 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 3: Now. 1602 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 4: Conversely, I think the Eagles their goal is going to 1603 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 4: be defeated to Saquon Barkley, you know, left right and 1604 01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,919 Speaker 4: up the middle as early and as often as possible. 1605 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 4: But if the Rams find a way to slow the 1606 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 4: rush if they commit bodies to line of scrimmage, if 1607 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 4: they forced Jalen Hurts to throw the football, and they 1608 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 4: can get you know, some sort of early exit from 1609 01:22:55,160 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 4: this drive. Forbidding the Eagles to score points, exactly. 1610 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,360 Speaker 3: What you said is going to happen. 1611 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 4: You're gonna have the Rams aiming to get a chunk 1612 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 4: play or two on their opening drive, get highlighting the 1613 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 4: pass game, and get into the end zone as quickly 1614 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,840 Speaker 4: as possible, because if you can play with an early lead, 1615 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,040 Speaker 4: takes the fans out of the game a little bit. 1616 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 4: We know Philadelphia fans, they will boo their own team 1617 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,840 Speaker 4: if they're struggling enough, and it doesn't matter if it's 1618 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 4: the postseason or not. 1619 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 3: And then also get. 1620 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts in this Philadelphia Eagles offense chasing points. It 1621 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,080 Speaker 4: is paramount that you have them throwing the football instead 1622 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 4: of handing it off to Saquon Barkley. 1623 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: Well, I think a smart play by the Eagles to 1624 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 1: start this gameplay action, so right, you know you're Jalen Hurts, 1625 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 1: you go back fake the handoff to Saquon, roll out, 1626 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,719 Speaker 1: and they get a first down on the first play 1627 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 1: by the way opening kickoff return, the returner slipped. 1628 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what the. 1629 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 1: Condition of the field is, but he seemed to point 1630 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 1: to the field. He tried to make a plant, you know, 1631 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 1: on his return to make a move, and his feet 1632 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: just went out from under him. So not quite sure 1633 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,759 Speaker 1: what the condition of the field is in Philadelphia right now. 1634 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 1: So the Eagles have the ball at their own forty 1635 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,599 Speaker 1: yard line on this opening drive and they have come 1636 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,080 Speaker 1: out passing the football, and I think this is a 1637 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,639 Speaker 1: smart play by the Eagles. 1638 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 2: Yes, you have Saquon Barkley. 1639 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,839 Speaker 1: Yes he had a career day against the Rams earlier 1640 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 1: this year, but this is a quarterback that led you 1641 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl two years ago. This is a 1642 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,639 Speaker 1: quarterback that was the talk of the football world after 1643 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,920 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl two years ago. They need to get 1644 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: more out of Jalen Hurts if they're going to reach 1645 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:39,719 Speaker 1: their ultimate destination, which is hoisting the Lombardi Trophy. They're 1646 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 1: just not going to be able to do with Saquon Barkley. 1647 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is going to have to play at that 1648 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 1: level that we saw two years ago. 1649 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,799 Speaker 4: They just connected with Goddard and that was a planned 1650 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 4: roll out bootleg pass to Goddard. They've just connected with Smith. 1651 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 4: I'm guessing they're going to be looking for aj Brown 1652 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 4: on this next play. They handed off to Saquon. So look, 1653 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 4: this is my point. Get all of your stars involved quickly. 1654 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 4: If you're the Eagles, right, you want to get Smith 1655 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,639 Speaker 4: a touch, You want to get Goddard to touch, get 1656 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 4: Saqua involved. Like I said, I think they're going to 1657 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,639 Speaker 4: dial up Brown here early in this drive. 1658 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 3: Get touches to everybody. 1659 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 4: Tom Brady actually mentioned this on one of his broadcasts, 1660 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,799 Speaker 4: one of his Fox broadcasts this season. He said, getting 1661 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,600 Speaker 4: guys involved early keeps them engaged. 1662 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 3: So even though you have a hammer running. 1663 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 4: Back like Sakwon Barkley who's having the season of his life, 1664 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 4: you can't abandon the passing game completely. So sprinkle in 1665 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 4: those play actions. Maybe a couple of quick passes close 1666 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 4: to line of scrimmage. Yeah, you may want to feature 1667 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 4: the run, but it's important to make sure you get 1668 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 4: the ball into your playmaker's hands. 1669 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 3: Because it is a cold day. You want to keep 1670 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 3: them warm. 1671 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 4: You want to keep them active and involved, and if 1672 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 4: you need them later on, you want to make sure 1673 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 4: their hands are warmed up. 1674 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,639 Speaker 1: By the way, Just for our listeners out there, Rich 1675 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 1: and I are at different locations today and what I'm 1676 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: watching is well ahead of what you're watching. 1677 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 2: So don't be. 1678 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,639 Speaker 1: Alarmed if I say something and you're looking up saying 1679 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,600 Speaker 1: how do you know? That? I can already tell you 1680 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 1: in advance. But right now everything is clicking for the Eagles. 1681 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 1: They've got the ball down to the forty four yard line, 1682 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 1: short passes. Tae Kwon has run the ball a couple 1683 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: of times. Now, Jalen Hurts takes off on a big 1684 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,080 Speaker 1: run and he is all the way down the field. 1685 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,759 Speaker 1: Effect he is in the end zone. Jalen Hurts scorts 1686 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 1: and this is amazing. I was listening to the guys 1687 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: this morning talking about Jalen Hurts and who was I 1688 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 1: think it was Jeff Schwartz and he was predicting who 1689 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: would score the first touchdown of the game, and he 1690 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 1: was talking about Jalen Hurts on a push play, like 1691 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,799 Speaker 1: you know, one of their notorious goal line push plays. 1692 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 1: But Jalen Hurts takes off and he goes all the 1693 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:49,600 Speaker 1: way in the end zone after breaking one tackle. Nobody 1694 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 1: touched him, and just like that, the Eagles six nothing lead. 1695 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:54,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen. 1696 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,440 Speaker 4: That is that's what's special about having a mobile quarterback 1697 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 4: who's strong, who can and withstand these types of planned 1698 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 4: QB running plays, and also think about the benefit of 1699 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,400 Speaker 4: having your quarterback carry the football. 1700 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 1: So you have, oh what you got missed extra points? Wow, 1701 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,679 Speaker 1: forty four yard touchdown run by the Hurts, but yes, 1702 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 1: miss extra point. 1703 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 4: So you have the left guard and left tackle pull 1704 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,839 Speaker 4: around the formation, so you're adding two blockers front side. 1705 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,479 Speaker 4: You fake it to Saquan that freezes the backside of 1706 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 4: the defense, and you have Jalen Hurts split the front, 1707 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 4: the front side tackle and the tight end, and you 1708 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 4: have a convoy of big body blockers leading the way 1709 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 4: for you. There's nobody left because again, when the QB's 1710 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,599 Speaker 4: the ball carrier and you can freeze the backside support 1711 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 4: with Saquon on the fake, give all of a sudden, 1712 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 4: nobody's home. So it's either going to take an excellent 1713 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,639 Speaker 4: play by a defender to defeat a block front side 1714 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 4: and fall into a tackle, or somebody to miss their 1715 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 4: block for there to be a free defender front Otherwise 1716 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 4: it's a touchdown every time. So the Rams, look, they 1717 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,679 Speaker 4: have a lot to think about after that drive. 1718 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,559 Speaker 2: Absolutely. In fact, here's the thing. 1719 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Sakwon Barkley two carries five yards, Okay, we neutralized him. 1720 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts three for three passing twenty five yards, and 1721 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: then he runs forty four yards for a touchdown. So 1722 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 1: just talked about it at the end of the beginning 1723 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 1: of the game. Again, if the Eagles are going to 1724 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,000 Speaker 1: get to where they want to be, and that's the 1725 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 1: top of the NFL and Super Bowl champions, they're going 1726 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 1: to have to get more out of Jalen Hurts. He's 1727 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 1: going to have to resemble the quarterback we saw two 1728 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: years ago, and at least on that opening drive, that's 1729 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,799 Speaker 1: exactly the Jalen Hurts we saw. So six nothing Eagles 1730 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 1: after the miss extra point, Now the Rams are going 1731 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,280 Speaker 1: to get it, and I'm very anxious. We again talking 1732 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 1: about what the Rams game plan is. Let's remember they 1733 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 1: also have an elite running back in Kiraen Williams. I mean, 1734 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,360 Speaker 1: last year was a breakout season from Kyra Williams. This 1735 01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:01,720 Speaker 1: guy's a touchdown machine and he has been extremely important 1736 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 1: and the revival of the Rams offense over the last 1737 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,679 Speaker 1: couple of years. And so I had made a bold prediction, 1738 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, I told her about the bold prediction I 1739 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 1: had with Jared Goff. My bold prediction in this game 1740 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: was that Kyraen Williams would have at least twenty more 1741 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 1: yards rushing in this game than Saquon Barkley. Well, I mean, 1742 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,440 Speaker 1: that's a way over the top prediction, obviously. 1743 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,760 Speaker 4: The only way I see that happening, by the way, 1744 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 4: is if the Rams get to a point where they're 1745 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 4: comfortable slowing this game down, playing keep away, running the football. 1746 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 4: This early lead for the Eagles, I mean, it makes 1747 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,560 Speaker 4: me very reticent that your bold prediction will work out, 1748 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 4: because it's gonna take whatever team has the lead, has 1749 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 4: the ability to start slowing the game clockdown, has has 1750 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 4: the ability or i should say, the advantage of points 1751 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 4: on the board to say, okay, we can control this 1752 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 4: game a little bit at the line of scrimmage. So 1753 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 4: in order for your bold prediction to come true, you 1754 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 4: better hope that Stafford Heaves won to Cooper Cup on 1755 01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,639 Speaker 4: play two and they get into the into the zone, 1756 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 4: because it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a little 1757 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,679 Speaker 4: bit of chasing points here for Sean mcvahin company. 1758 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 2: All Right, So the Eagles. 1759 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Score on their opening drive on a forty four yard 1760 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 1: touchdown run by Jalen Hurts. Extra point is miss six 1761 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,640 Speaker 1: nothing Eagles. We'll see what the Rams do coming up 1762 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 1: on the other side. We got everything covered that you 1763 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,640 Speaker 1: need right here on Red Zone Radio all right, once 1764 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: again broadcasting live from the ti iraq dot com studios. 1765 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,679 Speaker 1: So after the Eagles scored on their opening drive, missed 1766 01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 1: extra points, six nothing Eagles, the Rams are marching down 1767 01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 1: the field. Key play here, Rich was a pass originally 1768 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: incomplete on the field to Tyler Higbee the big tight end. 1769 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,520 Speaker 2: Of course, his daughter's babysitted by my daughter. 1770 01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:01,320 Speaker 1: So he's supposed to to our family. But the replay 1771 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 1: clearly showed he caught the ball. They did reverse the call. 1772 01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Then Kyron Williams rattled off a twenty yard run, so 1773 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: my play on that might be playing in. And then 1774 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,799 Speaker 1: they found Pooka Nakua for a play. So right now, 1775 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 1: the Rams are looking pretty good on this opening drive, 1776 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,680 Speaker 1: and much like we saw with the Eagles mixing it 1777 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 1: up nice. I think both these teams are feeling anxious 1778 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,040 Speaker 1: because the snow's up falling right now that you can 1779 01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 1: really pull out your full repertoire. Both these teams have 1780 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,519 Speaker 1: effective running games, effective passing games, and we're seated on 1781 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:31,720 Speaker 1: full display right now. 1782 01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a really nice job by Matthew Stafford on 1783 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 4: that pass to Puka nakoua. 1784 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 3: Earlier in the drive over the middle. 1785 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,240 Speaker 4: Looking off the zone defenders, so he could throw that 1786 01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 4: low and on the money over the middle on the. 1787 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,040 Speaker 3: Deep drag route. Really beautifully done by Stafford. 1788 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,799 Speaker 1: All right, so they have a third down play right 1789 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:56,120 Speaker 1: now for the Rams. They're inside the twenty laid. They're 1790 01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,720 Speaker 1: obviously in field goal position. But when you get down 1791 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,519 Speaker 1: at the point, they're at the fifteen yard line right now, 1792 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 1: they're facing a third and six, and it would be 1793 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,400 Speaker 1: disappointing if you're the Rams if you can't get the 1794 01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 1: ball into the end zone. Stafford's got running room up 1795 01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 1: the middle and he is going to get to the 1796 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 1: first down. 1797 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 9: Wow. 1798 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, big run by Matthew Stafford, inching across the first 1799 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 1: down marker. So the Rams will have a first down 1800 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:26,639 Speaker 1: close to the eight yard line. 1801 01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, first and goal, So here go the Rams. 1802 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,840 Speaker 4: A really nice job of the Eagles defense, by the way, 1803 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,160 Speaker 4: with their picket line defense or picket fence defense. What 1804 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,320 Speaker 4: happens on these crucial third downs or when you're getting 1805 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 4: near the goal line. 1806 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, just an update. 1807 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,720 Speaker 1: They're saying that his knee was down before, so they're 1808 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,360 Speaker 1: gonna go for it on fourth and one we go, 1809 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,320 Speaker 1: they run the ball. 1810 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 2: To Kien Williams against the first down, go ahead. 1811 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you line up all your defenders where you 1812 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,439 Speaker 4: need to stop, and so the Eagles did that. But yeah, 1813 01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 4: Stafford's knee was down just a half yard and Kiren 1814 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:02,759 Speaker 4: was able to punch it forward. 1815 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so now they have a first and goal at 1816 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,040 Speaker 1: the five yard line. You know, we were talking to 1817 01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 1: the overrunner in this game was what forty two and 1818 01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 1: a half a really low number, and you're thinking out 1819 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,280 Speaker 1: with the weather and everything else. But at least on 1820 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: these opening drives, both teams are moving the ball very 1821 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 1: very effectively, doing what they want to do, both with. 1822 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,880 Speaker 2: Their passing game and the running game. 1823 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,880 Speaker 1: So we'll see how this plays out, but early on 1824 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 1: offenses in control and Kyraen Williams, who was certainly had 1825 01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,120 Speaker 1: a nose for the end zone. 1826 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 2: What a revelation. 1827 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,360 Speaker 1: Right his rookie season he was basically hurt and then 1828 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: last year, out of nowhere, he becomes a Pro Bowl 1829 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 1: running back actually led the NFL last year in rushing 1830 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 1: yards per game and had an equally great season this year. So, 1831 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about Sean McVay and his offense, 1832 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 1: and we saw it in the heyday when they had 1833 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:58,320 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley operating with Jared Goff, he gotta have both. 1834 01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,599 Speaker 1: And when Todd Gurley got hurt, suddenly that ram offense 1835 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:03,640 Speaker 1: went sideways. 1836 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 2: They just you gotta have a running game. 1837 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting with the upcoming draft if there's 1838 01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 1: a more of a premium on some of these elite 1839 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 1: running backs than we've see in recent years. 1840 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's h's it's pretty impressive. 1841 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 4: And also, Dereck Henry, I believe, was the running back 1842 01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 4: who admitted that there is a text chain amongst some 1843 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 4: of the the NFL's top running backs and they've kept 1844 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,240 Speaker 4: in touch all season long, and they've talked about how 1845 01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 4: to continue increasing the value of the position. Well, the 1846 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 4: reality of the situation is the way you increase the 1847 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 4: value of the running back position is make it undeniable 1848 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,439 Speaker 4: that every team needs one of these. 1849 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,879 Speaker 3: Guys, one of these top dogs. 1850 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 4: And so yeah, I mean, if Dereck Henry represents the 1851 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:52,200 Speaker 4: AFC side on in the Super Bowl. And if Saquon 1852 01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,760 Speaker 4: Barkley represents the the NFC side of the Super Bowl, 1853 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 4: I think that statement's made, don't you think, Steve? 1854 01:34:58,600 --> 01:34:59,439 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 1855 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 1: And now they have a touchdown Rams and it is 1856 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 1: Tyler Higby. 1857 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,599 Speaker 2: Tyler, I remember he'd be. 1858 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Last a week, had five catches really early on. They 1859 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,680 Speaker 1: had a chest injury, and they thought he might have 1860 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,920 Speaker 1: had some kind of broken ribs. But no, and here 1861 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:22,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbe catches one into the end zone. I look, 1862 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,599 Speaker 1: I'm near and dear to the Higbee family. His wife 1863 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,800 Speaker 1: was at our house just the other day. So this 1864 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,639 Speaker 1: is this is really he's a super guy. He's a veteran. 1865 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Came back from that oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1866 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:34,280 Speaker 3: I don't know his knees. 1867 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 1: They were down. 1868 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:36,360 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1869 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:37,439 Speaker 2: Are they challenging? 1870 01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 3: I think the ball broke the plane. Now over the plane. 1871 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so they are not challenging. The rams are 1872 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: on for the extra point. So two extra point is good. 1873 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,599 Speaker 1: So seven six rams. 1874 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 3: So so Tyler Higbee, he was to the bunch side. 1875 01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,760 Speaker 4: They had a three by one formation. They send him 1876 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,559 Speaker 4: in motion and now they have twins, right, so they 1877 01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,639 Speaker 4: have two receivers to the right, two receivers to the left. 1878 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 4: Higbee is the slot receiver. They sent him out on 1879 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,559 Speaker 4: a whip route, which basically it means he was looking 1880 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,680 Speaker 4: like he was going to run to the front pylon 1881 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,879 Speaker 4: to the left, and instead he broke off that route. 1882 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,040 Speaker 3: He cut inside. 1883 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,920 Speaker 4: He boxed out Gardner Johnson, the corner who was covering him. 1884 01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 3: A mismatch against a. 1885 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 4: Big body receiver like Higbee, and he was able to 1886 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,240 Speaker 4: impose his will and cross the plane for the first 1887 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,280 Speaker 4: score for the Rams. 1888 01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,479 Speaker 3: That is the type of stuff that Sean McVay loves. 1889 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,759 Speaker 4: Where can we find the mismatches at the goal line? Okay, 1890 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,599 Speaker 4: how can we get Higbee on a little guy? Well, 1891 01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,920 Speaker 4: you put him in motion, you put him in the slot, 1892 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,760 Speaker 4: you have him work against the corner, and you do 1893 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 4: something where he's catching the ball close to the middle 1894 01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 4: of the field. Beautiful execution by Higbee, great play calling 1895 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 4: by Sean McVay. 1896 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,679 Speaker 2: It's an amazing story for Higbee. 1897 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 1: We saw last year what happened against Detroit where his 1898 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: knee got destroyed, I mean absolutely exploded, and I saw 1899 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,519 Speaker 1: the rehabit guy and just you know, especially a veteran 1900 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,080 Speaker 1: player ru for a guy like that, But you're thinking 1901 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,120 Speaker 1: he's a veteran, he's played ten years. You know his 1902 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 1: time is coming, gone, right, they're gonna move on. And 1903 01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,280 Speaker 1: he rehabbed it, and he came on late in the year. 1904 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 1: And to see him getting the end zone in a 1905 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,760 Speaker 1: playoff game, big game like this against the Eagles is great. 1906 01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,759 Speaker 1: Here here's something I'm sure Sean McVay is excited about. 1907 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:26,040 Speaker 1: Sixty seven yard drive, thirty three yards, passing, thirty four yards, rushing, 1908 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,839 Speaker 1: absolute balance, perfect absolute balance. 1909 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,840 Speaker 4: And by the way, Stafford, how about that decision making 1910 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,479 Speaker 4: on the third and six right he's got he sees 1911 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 4: the pick offense defense I was talking about of the 1912 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles. 1913 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,600 Speaker 3: They've got zone coverage. 1914 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,200 Speaker 4: Everybody at the sticks are covered up, and instead of 1915 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,120 Speaker 4: thinking twice about it, and he's not the most mobile 1916 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:52,000 Speaker 4: guy anymore, Matthew Stafford takes up lunches, takes off lunches 1917 01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,800 Speaker 4: forward and he's short of the first down marker. But 1918 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,600 Speaker 4: still it sets up your offense to have kyn Williams 1919 01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,920 Speaker 4: punch it through. Either you convert there or you give 1920 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,959 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia the Eagles the ball back in the shadows 1921 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,040 Speaker 4: of their own goal post, So a good decision on 1922 01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:08,240 Speaker 4: fourth down going for it. 1923 01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,479 Speaker 3: I love that drive from the Rams. I love the 1924 01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,080 Speaker 3: drive we just watched from the Eagles. 1925 01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,360 Speaker 4: I think both of these starting scripts have been really effective. 1926 01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:20,280 Speaker 1: All right, So now the Rams saw the Eagles. Obviously 1927 01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,599 Speaker 1: they were very conscious of Barkley as well. They should 1928 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 1: be after for two hundred and fifty five yards against 1929 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,840 Speaker 1: them last time. Yeah, and Jalen Hurts killed them on 1930 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 1: that opening drive through the air and of course more 1931 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 1: importantly on that forty four yard touchdown run. So I mean, 1932 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,800 Speaker 1: how many what adjustments can you make early in a game? 1933 01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Or can you? I mean we always saw, we always 1934 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: hear about halftime adjustments. What's reality as far as in 1935 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,640 Speaker 1: game adjustments in terms of what your game plan is, 1936 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,360 Speaker 1: either offensively or defensively. 1937 01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,599 Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked, because the deal is this, that's 1938 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,640 Speaker 4: their opening script, right, So now you're not going to 1939 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 4: fool the Rams. You're not gonna catch them again running 1940 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,639 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts on a playing QB run because you did 1941 01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 4: on your opening drive, So you know that this is 1942 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 4: gonna be something they're going to get back to in 1943 01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 4: this game. So now you have defenders who are looking 1944 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 4: out for that, right. So that's one adjustment you make 1945 01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,360 Speaker 4: you make on the sideline when you're talking to your 1946 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,479 Speaker 4: team and you're showing them the picture, it's like, hey, 1947 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,160 Speaker 4: out of this formation instead of the normal play action 1948 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 4: or instead of it being sickwa. We cannot over commit backside. 1949 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna have to keep our eyes on Jailen Hurts 1950 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:33,040 Speaker 4: front front side. So follow your pollers, right, you know, 1951 01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,759 Speaker 4: don't get frozen by the action in the backfield. Follow 1952 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,280 Speaker 4: your keys. If you're a linebacker, the pollers will take 1953 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,000 Speaker 4: you to the play almost one hundred percent of the time. 1954 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 1: All right. So they've run Barkley short gain about three 1955 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:49,519 Speaker 1: yards there. Uh, and so this is look, we're gonna 1956 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,240 Speaker 1: see plenty of Barkley. And yeah, you know where Barkley 1957 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,599 Speaker 1: is going to be most devastating is that the Eagles 1958 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,640 Speaker 1: can take any lead in the second I remember in 1959 01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 1: the game early against the Rams in the second halfy 1960 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 1: a seventy yard touchdown run and a seventy two yard touchdown. 1961 01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. 1962 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,240 Speaker 1: The only question remaining in this game right now is 1963 01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,880 Speaker 1: both teams are doing pretty much what they won offensively, 1964 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,760 Speaker 1: and there's a drop pass that's not going to help 1965 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:12,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles cause. 1966 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:13,639 Speaker 3: But. 1967 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 2: Is the snow again? 1968 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:21,479 Speaker 1: The weather was report was we were going to see snow, 1969 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 1: and we're going to see snow throughout the game. Well 1970 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,040 Speaker 1: right now there is no snow and we got five 1971 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,840 Speaker 1: minutes left in the first quarter. So is this going 1972 01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,679 Speaker 1: to be a second half situation? That's interesting because imagine 1973 01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,240 Speaker 1: if you go to halftime like what snow? There had 1974 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 1: many snow. Then you come out of the locker rooms, 1975 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,720 Speaker 1: Oh here comes and you sort of made some adjustments, 1976 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,920 Speaker 1: and now you have to think about, wait, is that 1977 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,519 Speaker 1: going to work now that the weather has turned on us. 1978 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,839 Speaker 1: So these are all things that will have to be answered. 1979 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:53,800 Speaker 1: The Rams that's sacked Jalen Hurts. So this RAMS team 1980 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:58,680 Speaker 1: that recorded nine sacks last week against the Vikings have 1981 01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:04,200 Speaker 1: stopped the Eagles three and out as Jalen Hurts gets sacked. 1982 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,000 Speaker 4: And it was it was a coverage sack. Yeah, it 1983 01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,519 Speaker 4: was that ball needs to come out. And here's what happened. 1984 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,000 Speaker 4: So you had the Rams looking like they were gonna 1985 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 4: bring a six man pressure and then they bailed and 1986 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:20,719 Speaker 4: they rushed five. Now the rusher who was over their 1987 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,240 Speaker 4: left tackle, my lotta you're gonna see that he gets beat, 1988 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 4: but he gets beat late, right yea. Originally it looked 1989 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,439 Speaker 4: like he was getting beat off the snap, and then 1990 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,160 Speaker 4: there was too much push on the center Jurgens who 1991 01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:37,120 Speaker 4: did not hold up against the blitzing linebacker linebacker the 1992 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,439 Speaker 4: defensive lineman rather who did come. So it's one of 1993 01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 4: those situations where Jalen Hurts didn't have a pocket to step. 1994 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,840 Speaker 3: Up into and you got beat late off the edge. 1995 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,880 Speaker 1: That's disastrous, all right, So the Rams will take over. 1996 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,760 Speaker 1: Actually a decent punt return. So the Rams take over 1997 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 1: leading the Eagles seven to six. Let's find out what 1998 01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:01,360 Speaker 1: is trending right now. So Monts, my bold prediction in 1999 01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,599 Speaker 1: this game was that Kyra and Williams have at least 2000 01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,120 Speaker 1: twenty more yards rushing than say, Kwon Barkley. And right 2001 01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 1: now he has twenty nine yards in Barkley as nine. 2002 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: So my mask says that's twenty yards. 2003 01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,639 Speaker 7: There's literally five minutes to go on the first quarter. 2004 01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,720 Speaker 8: Steve, I know, like I just I just want to 2005 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,200 Speaker 8: point that out before you start. 2006 01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like I've ever gotten ahead of 2007 01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:21,480 Speaker 1: my sell. 2008 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 4: Not what I mean, Monty, in our entire time working 2009 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,680 Speaker 4: with Steve, do you know him to over exaggerate, over embellish, 2010 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:28,439 Speaker 4: or get. 2011 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,040 Speaker 3: Too far ahead of it. 2012 01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 8: Oh, just a smitch. 2013 01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,599 Speaker 3: It's like we're talking about two different people. Of course 2014 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 3: he does. 2015 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,240 Speaker 2: You guys don't know me very well. 2016 01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 1: You actually know me better than I know myself. 2017 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,080 Speaker 8: Yes, that was your bold prediction. Let's chat again in 2018 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:43,719 Speaker 8: about an hour and see where. 2019 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:47,479 Speaker 1: We're did I preface by saying, and that's the way 2020 01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,519 Speaker 1: it would be with five minutes to go in the 2021 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:53,000 Speaker 1: first quarter, say. 2022 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 8: That it would have been extra bold right there. 2023 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2024 01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 7: So the Eagles are losing by one point because they 2025 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,800 Speaker 7: missed the extra point on their opening which was a 2026 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,559 Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts forty four yard run that ended in a touchdown. 2027 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 7: He was also three for three in that opening drive 2028 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,960 Speaker 7: for twenty five yards in the air. 2029 01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 8: They missed the extra point. 2030 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,200 Speaker 7: Then the Rams responded on their opening drive, Matthew Stafford 2031 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,800 Speaker 7: connecting with Tyler Higbee for a touchdown. So LA is 2032 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,519 Speaker 7: up seven to six, five minutes to go on the 2033 01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,280 Speaker 7: first Ley has the ball, and they just sat on 2034 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,960 Speaker 7: the broadcast that when Matthew Stafford came off the field, 2035 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,280 Speaker 7: he was grimacing, and when he sat down they went 2036 01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,759 Speaker 7: to talk to him and they handed him a heating 2037 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 7: pad to put on his ribs. 2038 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was apparently when he ran for that first down. 2039 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,559 Speaker 1: Now they show a hit that he may have taken, 2040 01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:37,400 Speaker 1: so so. 2041 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,920 Speaker 8: He Yeah, he was giving a heat path a little bit, 2042 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,400 Speaker 8: so something to keep an eye on. 2043 01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:43,600 Speaker 3: You know. 2044 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,200 Speaker 7: If I'm the Eagles and I know we hurt him 2045 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,640 Speaker 7: a little bit, I'm gonna try and hurt him a 2046 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 7: little bit more. 2047 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying. 2048 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,200 Speaker 7: We still have another Divisional round game in the NFL 2049 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,360 Speaker 7: later today Bills and Ravens. That kickoff is at six 2050 01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,360 Speaker 7: thirty Eastern and the winner is going to face the 2051 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,360 Speaker 7: Chiefs and the AFC Championship game for that one. In baseball, 2052 01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,640 Speaker 7: closer Tenner Scott and the Dodgers are in agreement on 2053 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 7: a four year, seventy two million dollar contract. 2054 01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 8: Yes, the rich get richer. In the NBA. 2055 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,639 Speaker 7: The first game underway, Spurs have the early lead against 2056 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,400 Speaker 7: the Heat. Twenty to twelve is the score late in 2057 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:16,200 Speaker 7: the first quarter. In men's college hoops, Northwestern up on 2058 01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,720 Speaker 7: Number twenty Michigan forty eight to forty seven. Halfway through 2059 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,760 Speaker 7: the second half, and with five minutes to go in 2060 01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,320 Speaker 7: the first half, Number eighteen Memphis is beating Charlotte thirty 2061 01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 7: three to sixteen. Number twelve Michigan State stayed undefeated in 2062 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 7: their conference, extending their winning streak to eleven after defeating 2063 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 7: Number nineteen Illinois eighty to seventy eight, and on the ice, 2064 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,320 Speaker 7: the Senators have edged the Devils two to one. 2065 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,639 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, Monci, thank you very 2066 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:44,240 Speaker 1: very much, Red Zone Radio. 2067 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. 2068 01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,080 Speaker 1: Early in this game, there's no doubt that Matthew Stafford 2069 01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 1: has fallen in love with Tyler Higbee. He just keeps 2070 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,960 Speaker 1: throwing him the ball. He's a tall tight end, he's 2071 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 1: a veteran tight end, and he's a mismatch. Yeah, And 2072 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 1: the Rams and a smart quarterback that are in quarterback 2073 01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,560 Speaker 1: like Matthew Stafford are going to take advantage unless the 2074 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:07,920 Speaker 1: Eagles have a different play. 2075 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:08,639 Speaker 2: One guy that has. 2076 01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 1: Yet to catch a pass for the Rams is Cooper 2077 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,720 Speaker 1: Cup and I would imagine, in fact, he has yet 2078 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,960 Speaker 1: to be even targeted in this game, So you know, 2079 01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,640 Speaker 1: it's sort of nice to you know, know that. Oh yeah, 2080 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,920 Speaker 1: by the way, I haven't forgotten he's here, a guy 2081 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,439 Speaker 1: that won the Triple Crown three years ago in terms 2082 01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 1: of receiving. 2083 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,360 Speaker 2: In fact, one of the greatest receiving years of all time. 2084 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,120 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year Super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup 2085 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:39,080 Speaker 1: had the dream season three years ago as the Rams 2086 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,320 Speaker 1: ended up as Super Bowl champions. So right now they 2087 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,120 Speaker 1: have a third and three, they are at their own 2088 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 1: forty one yard line, and really it's imperative for the Eagles, 2089 01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,280 Speaker 1: who had five sacks of Stafford last game, and they 2090 01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,240 Speaker 1: just sacked Stafford on third down. So I was just 2091 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 1: thinking about, well, that earlier game this year, we talked 2092 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:02,680 Speaker 1: about Saquon and his big day, but equally big was 2093 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,880 Speaker 1: the fact that the Eagles sacked Stafford five times for 2094 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:07,640 Speaker 1: forty five yards and losses. 2095 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:09,719 Speaker 2: And there's their first sack of the game. 2096 01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Eagles they did it rushing only four 2097 01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,919 Speaker 4: So that does not bode well for the Rams upfront 2098 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,560 Speaker 4: against his defensive line. You look a Jalen Carter, a 2099 01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 4: guy who they were excited about out of Georgia, a 2100 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,840 Speaker 4: big threat rushing over anybody. 2101 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,439 Speaker 3: But it was just a simple et, which means. 2102 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,320 Speaker 4: Your end comes crashing down on the guard and he 2103 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:32,560 Speaker 4: did so successfully. 2104 01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 3: And Jalen Carter is one of. 2105 01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 4: These big men who can move so he looped around 2106 01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,760 Speaker 4: got to Stafford. It was within two seconds of the 2107 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,240 Speaker 4: ball being snapped, So that was a perfectly executed defensive 2108 01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:46,679 Speaker 4: line stunt for the sack. 2109 01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 1: I want to bring Bo in here for a second. 2110 01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 1: He of course an interested party, his longtime allegiance to 2111 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,759 Speaker 1: the Eagles and at times sudden allegiance to the Rams. 2112 01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,680 Speaker 1: What are you seeing so far? He's surprises for you 2113 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:00,720 Speaker 1: so far were in this game both. 2114 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,840 Speaker 6: I was gonna mention while you guys were talking. I 2115 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,439 Speaker 6: don't know if he's on the broadcast, but Quiny and 2116 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,080 Speaker 6: Mitchell is questionable return. 2117 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,960 Speaker 3: For the Oh yeah, he heard his shoulder, Yeah, which. 2118 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:09,240 Speaker 6: Is going to open up the passing game for the 2119 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 6: Rams if he cannot come back into the game. 2120 01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, So it's gonna be interesting here. 2121 01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:16,040 Speaker 3: You know. 2122 01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,040 Speaker 2: The weather's on the way. 2123 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 1: I feel like for both these scenes there's a sense 2124 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,280 Speaker 1: of urgency, like, let's get our points now. 2125 01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,200 Speaker 6: If I'm the Rams, I'm doing everything I can to 2126 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:25,960 Speaker 6: go up like a score or two before the weather. 2127 01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:26,920 Speaker 6: Yes kicks in. 2128 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,720 Speaker 3: Yes, the winter is coming. 2129 01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,080 Speaker 1: In hinter is coming. A winter warning, by the way, 2130 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,879 Speaker 1: so bad on the East coast. Tomorrow's inauguration day, President 2131 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:41,479 Speaker 1: Trump will have his inauguration indoors. Not unprecedented. By the way. 2132 01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 1: President Reagan's second inauguration was indoors with a horrific winter 2133 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,920 Speaker 1: storm back in nineteen eighty five. 2134 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 3: Wow. 2135 01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, the inauguration, they're going to go deep here 2136 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,240 Speaker 1: the eagles and it is oh wow, what happened there? 2137 01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 10: That's gonna I don't know why they threw a flag. 2138 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,479 Speaker 10: I'm gonna imagine that's a DEPI flag uless there's a 2139 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,920 Speaker 10: push off. I missed what happened there because the hit 2140 01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,040 Speaker 10: was after he tried to make Smith went up for 2141 01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:10,120 Speaker 10: the catch and did not catch it. I think they're 2142 01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:13,839 Speaker 10: calling a personal bowel against the RUFUS. 2143 01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're gonna say that Witherspoon he put a 2144 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,240 Speaker 4: shoulder into the helmet and he. 2145 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, whether Witherspoon, it's into his helmet. 2146 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 4: Witherspoon actually he signaled, He's like, hey, I hit it 2147 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,519 Speaker 4: with my shoulder. It's like yeah, but here's the deal. 2148 01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,720 Speaker 4: You get hit with a forum, you could hit with 2149 01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,920 Speaker 4: your shoulder. You get hit with your helmet. If you're 2150 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:40,439 Speaker 4: aiming for defenseless targets helmet. Yeah, it's going to be 2151 01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,160 Speaker 4: targeting every time. Our personal fact. 2152 01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:45,160 Speaker 1: Boy, things have changed. Where's the Jack Tatums of the world? Man? 2153 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,240 Speaker 1: When they used to dismantle those receivers. 2154 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:48,320 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. 2155 01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 4: Like this is this used to be part of Randy 2156 01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:55,559 Speaker 4: Moss's career, of some of the great old time receivers careers, 2157 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,320 Speaker 4: which is when you when you run down the middle 2158 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 4: of the field, it might be Rodney Harrison waiting to 2159 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,479 Speaker 4: take your head off. It might be one of it 2160 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,640 Speaker 4: might be you know, back in the day with the Eagles, Dawkins. 2161 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,160 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Brian Dawkins, you were you 2162 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,120 Speaker 4: were risking health going over the middle of the field. 2163 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 4: But those days are gone. 2164 01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2165 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:18,639 Speaker 1: You know, the legendary Lynn Swan, Hall of Famer, Super 2166 01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,200 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP of the great Steeler teams back in the seventies. 2167 01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,479 Speaker 1: He had a shortened career and some people say, well, 2168 01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:23,880 Speaker 1: how's he. 2169 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:24,439 Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame? 2170 01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,439 Speaker 1: He only caught some three hundred something past this And 2171 01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm always saying, first of all, he was dominant, Okay. 2172 01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,280 Speaker 1: The second is the reason his career was so short 2173 01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,120 Speaker 1: is that that guy suffered more concussions I think than 2174 01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:38,040 Speaker 1: any receiver. I mean, he was targeted so many times 2175 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:42,200 Speaker 1: it's amazing. He even got nine years in the NFL, 2176 01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,320 Speaker 1: so much different game, and I have no problem with 2177 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,080 Speaker 1: that and the protection of the players. So the Eagles 2178 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,280 Speaker 1: right now have a second and ten after that fifteen 2179 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,599 Speaker 1: yard personal foul penalty against the Rams, still in their 2180 01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:55,640 Speaker 1: own territory. 2181 01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:57,160 Speaker 2: But it's interesting. 2182 01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,479 Speaker 1: The Eagles are definitely looking to throw the ball and 2183 01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,719 Speaker 1: they should. In fact, Hurts is gonna throw the ball again, 2184 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:08,000 Speaker 1: a short pass right there, so it's not just Saquon Barkley. 2185 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,479 Speaker 1: Right now, Barkley has three carries for nine yards. 2186 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the game plan is, hey, we're gonna spread this 2187 01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,960 Speaker 4: football around in the first half, and they've targeted now 2188 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,519 Speaker 4: Goddard a good amount toward the you know, close to 2189 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:21,960 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. Uh. 2190 01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 3: They obviously have handed the. 2191 01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:25,880 Speaker 4: Ball off to Saquon Barkley, but the QB run is 2192 01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,679 Speaker 4: going to be a part of the game. They're taking 2193 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,840 Speaker 4: this inexperienced rim defense and they're saying, hey, look, we're 2194 01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:32,880 Speaker 4: not gonna be one trick ponies. If you came into 2195 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 4: the game thinking you were just gonna shut down Saquon Barkley, 2196 01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:37,560 Speaker 4: you got another thing coming. 2197 01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:37,760 Speaker 2: All right. 2198 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,760 Speaker 1: The snow is beginning to fall, and now Barkley has 2199 01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 1: brought a one off goodbye, wow, see you lateron Barkley touchdown. 2200 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean he was not touched on that play, Sakuon 2201 01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 1: Barkley Brettel's off. 2202 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:55,439 Speaker 2: How far was that run there? 2203 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,680 Speaker 6: That was seventy yards? 2204 01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:03,000 Speaker 1: That was sixty two yard touchdown run by Barkley. So 2205 01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:05,200 Speaker 1: again the first time he played the Rams, he had 2206 01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 1: touchdown runs of seventy and seventy two sixty two yard 2207 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 1: touchdown run. So the two touchdowns for the Eagles Jalen 2208 01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,719 Speaker 1: Hurts forty four yard touchdown. Round. Now Saquon Barkley sixty 2209 01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 1: two yard touchdown run. He was not touched. 2210 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that photo of Jared Versus trailing Saquon as he 2211 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:25,240 Speaker 6: goes into the zone is going to do numbers in 2212 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,600 Speaker 6: Philadelphia this week. We'll play you that. 2213 01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this time the extra point is good. So 2214 01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,519 Speaker 1: the Eagles lead the Rams by a score of thirteen 2215 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,519 Speaker 1: to seven. But it's just it's amazing sometimes when you 2216 01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,880 Speaker 1: see a play break like that. Yeah, especially when you 2217 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,320 Speaker 1: have a feature back like Saquon Barkley. How it is 2218 01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:45,320 Speaker 1: that a handoff literally goes untouched. Sixty two yards were touchdown? 2219 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,360 Speaker 4: Well, and here's the way they did it. So the 2220 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,639 Speaker 4: Eagles are in a three by one formation. The one 2221 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,240 Speaker 4: to the right side was Goddard, who was on the 2222 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,439 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage in a three point stance as the. 2223 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,040 Speaker 3: Tight end, and they got exactly what they wanted. 2224 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,040 Speaker 4: So with the the Eagles, we're hoping for is to 2225 01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,720 Speaker 4: get four defenders for their four offensive blockers to the 2226 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:09,120 Speaker 4: right side. This is the simplest play in football right now. 2227 01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:10,759 Speaker 4: It's called the inside zone. 2228 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:11,720 Speaker 3: So you have got heard. 2229 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,040 Speaker 4: He kicks out that man on line of scrimmage and 2230 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:17,439 Speaker 4: then from right tackle to center, they just gather bodies 2231 01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:21,200 Speaker 4: as they're going into their zone blocking responsibilities and the rams. 2232 01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:22,959 Speaker 3: The only person left home. 2233 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 4: Was a deep safety whose heels were at fifteen yards 2234 01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,080 Speaker 4: beyond the line of scrimmage because this was a short 2235 01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:32,280 Speaker 4: yardage play and Saquon Barkley just burned by him. He 2236 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,080 Speaker 4: literally waved to him on his way into the end zone. 2237 01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 4: To peydrt Man, that was a beautifully executed, very simple 2238 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 4: run play. But when you have a special running back, 2239 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,679 Speaker 4: those simple run plays can turn into home run balls. 2240 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Well, the Eagles had over three hundred yards rushing in 2241 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,240 Speaker 1: that first encounter with the Rams. The Rams right now 2242 01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 1: are holding the Eagles to just nineteen point two yards 2243 01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,479 Speaker 1: of carry. So the Eagles have been held to just 2244 01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:00,439 Speaker 1: nineteen point two yards per carry. 2245 01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:02,120 Speaker 3: Yikesikes. 2246 01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,519 Speaker 1: The Rams are gonna have to figure out something quick 2247 01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,759 Speaker 1: or this game could get away from them. We'll continue 2248 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 1: on with our coverage here this game obviously, so get 2249 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,920 Speaker 1: you ready for well, the game that everyone's been talking about, 2250 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:17,719 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Ravens. This is red Zone Radio 2251 01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,759 Speaker 1: all right, rolling along here on this huge NFL Sunday 2252 01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,360 Speaker 1: Red Zone Radio. We're live from the tire rack dot 2253 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,480 Speaker 1: com studios. 2254 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,160 Speaker 2: It is definitely snowing now. 2255 01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:30,000 Speaker 1: So the snow has started, and they said once it starts, 2256 01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,840 Speaker 1: it will not stop. The Rams answered back a big 2257 01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,519 Speaker 1: forty eight yard pass to DeMarcus Robinson. By the way, 2258 01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,639 Speaker 1: my daughter Paris also baby sits his daughter. I will 2259 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,519 Speaker 1: say this, Rich, you know, you and I we we 2260 01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,480 Speaker 1: we work to provide for our families. 2261 01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 2262 01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:51,439 Speaker 1: But you want a good racket, and that's baby sitting 2263 01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,679 Speaker 1: for NFL players kids. Holy mackerel, I'm telling you you're 2264 01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:58,439 Speaker 1: talking about the tips are okay? I mean, you know 2265 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:02,200 Speaker 1: word spreads. He's he's really good and this everything else. 2266 01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,439 Speaker 1: It's quite a deal for him. Kyrienn Williams. Now has 2267 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,680 Speaker 1: taken the ball down about the twenty yard line for 2268 01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,240 Speaker 1: the Rams. So the Rams are answering right back. It 2269 01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,040 Speaker 1: is definitely snowing. You get a sense. Now, look at 2270 01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,840 Speaker 1: that snow. It is now coming down as promised, and 2271 01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,719 Speaker 1: they had warned that once the snow starts, it will 2272 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:25,599 Speaker 1: not stop. It will continue on for the balance of 2273 01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,280 Speaker 1: this game. But that was a huge pass play to 2274 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,720 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson. Great call right for the Rams. You're like, 2275 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,680 Speaker 1: oh man, she just shock Barkley runs sixty two yards 2276 01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,480 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. First play, let's go deep and DeMarcus 2277 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,960 Speaker 1: Robinson under duress made a phenomenal catch. 2278 01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, he won at the high point of the football. 2279 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,640 Speaker 3: That was an underthrown ball from Stafford. 2280 01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 4: He made an amazing adjustment on it and he basically 2281 01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,480 Speaker 4: stole an interception and turned it into a reception for 2282 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:55,880 Speaker 4: the Rams on the deep shot. 2283 01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,840 Speaker 1: All right, Cooper cup just caught his first pass of 2284 01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,440 Speaker 1: the game. So the Rams down around the ten yard 2285 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:05,000 Speaker 1: line and the snow is now coming down. 2286 01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,720 Speaker 3: All right. It's the perfect temperature for snow. 2287 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:11,520 Speaker 4: It's thirty three degrees outside it's just got I mean, it's. 2288 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,040 Speaker 2: Gotta be thirty two to freeze. 2289 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna stick. 2290 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 4: It's going to it's going to I mean, this is 2291 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,320 Speaker 4: going to look like a snow game by the third 2292 01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:23,440 Speaker 4: by the start of the third quarter, it's going to 2293 01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:24,080 Speaker 4: be covered. 2294 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,720 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So officially the Rams now have a 2295 01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,400 Speaker 1: third and two at the twelve yard line. They're gonna 2296 01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:32,720 Speaker 1: run the ball and Kyra Williams has stopped Yep, okay, 2297 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,760 Speaker 1: he gets stopped on that play. So what do you 2298 01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:40,000 Speaker 1: do here, Rich, I mean, fourth down in two? Do 2299 01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,640 Speaker 1: you just take the points make it a three point game? 2300 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,040 Speaker 1: Or do you try to go for the first down here? 2301 01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,560 Speaker 1: I think the offense is coming out. They're gonna go 2302 01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,320 Speaker 1: for the field goal attempt here, Yeah, which I think 2303 01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:51,160 Speaker 1: is the smart play. 2304 01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,120 Speaker 3: Take the points on the road lost the rule of heaven. 2305 01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:57,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I disagree with this entirely. I 2306 01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:58,960 Speaker 6: go for it, I mean. 2307 01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:02,000 Speaker 11: On the road in philadelp Well, I understand what they're saying, 2308 01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,840 Speaker 11: but it just seems like, yeah, you just get a 2309 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,760 Speaker 11: sense that scoring is going to be at a premium 2310 01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:11,400 Speaker 11: and now it's just going to come down to mistakes, 2311 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,560 Speaker 11: the field goal attempt is good. 2312 01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,280 Speaker 1: So now the Eagles lead the Rams bay a score 2313 01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,879 Speaker 1: of thirteen to ten. So one weather suddenly becomes a factor. 2314 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:23,800 Speaker 1: Is you know when you make mistakes, you know, it's 2315 01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,880 Speaker 1: not just about making big plays, it's. 2316 01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:28,800 Speaker 2: Like avoiding big mistakes. 2317 01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the reason why I support the decision, and listen. 2318 01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:37,680 Speaker 4: I am completely willing to have the debate and maybe 2319 01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,200 Speaker 4: even be commenced otherwise. But you just watched Saquon Barkley 2320 01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:45,920 Speaker 4: rackoff of sixty sixty plus yard touchdown rush. You drove 2321 01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:49,640 Speaker 4: the field after really winning on a ball that was 2322 01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:53,520 Speaker 4: supposed to be intercepted just three plays ago, and you're 2323 01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:56,680 Speaker 4: facing a long two like that's a fourth and a 2324 01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:01,240 Speaker 4: long two yards. So if you get stuffed, you ignite 2325 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,880 Speaker 4: the fans, and then the Eagles come onto the field 2326 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:10,360 Speaker 4: filled with momentum. I'm just take the points in that situation. 2327 01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,720 Speaker 4: I know it sounds like the cowards way out, but 2328 01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:15,800 Speaker 4: the snow has started to fall. That changes the dynamic 2329 01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:17,760 Speaker 4: a little bit because all of a sudden the weather 2330 01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,360 Speaker 4: has shown up. I don't mind the three points, I 2331 01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:21,480 Speaker 4: don't mind the field goal there. 2332 01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,080 Speaker 1: Well, the problem for the Rams now moving forward is 2333 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,440 Speaker 1: forty four yard touchdown run by Jalen Hurds where he 2334 01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,840 Speaker 1: was barely touched. Yeah, and a sixty two yard touch 2335 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,720 Speaker 1: around by Saquon Barkley when he wasn't touched. 2336 01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't have any more of those. 2337 01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you know you take those two plays away, 2338 01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:44,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, that's easy. But outside of those plays, 2339 01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,160 Speaker 1: they have thirty one total yards. They haven't really had 2340 01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,160 Speaker 1: much else except two home run balls hit. So the 2341 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,840 Speaker 1: long ball's killing the Rams right now. And you got 2342 01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:58,480 Speaker 1: he can't have that happen. And especially what's crazy is 2343 01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,760 Speaker 1: that Barkley did this a couple of times against them. 2344 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:01,400 Speaker 3: The first time. 2345 01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, seventy yard touch and run, seventy two 2346 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:07,960 Speaker 1: yard touchdown run. I don't know, Rich, I mean, you 2347 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,920 Speaker 1: can't allow those kind of plays to happen. You gotta 2348 01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,000 Speaker 1: you gotta let you gotta make the Eagles earn it. 2349 01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,960 Speaker 1: If they got to grind it out, fine, give them credit, 2350 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:20,640 Speaker 1: but just getting you know, long touchdown runs like that, No, 2351 01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:22,720 Speaker 1: that's gotta stop now. 2352 01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you said, without those those two runs, 2353 01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:28,480 Speaker 4: the Eagles have thirty three yards and. 2354 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:29,480 Speaker 3: No touchdowns either. 2355 01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:33,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's like it's that's that's the name of 2356 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 4: this game so far, is the Eagles exploiting a RAMS 2357 01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:42,480 Speaker 4: defense that is over committing. They're over committing to Saquon Well, 2358 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,440 Speaker 4: not Saquon Barkley necessarily, but in the Jalen Hurts run 2359 01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:49,720 Speaker 4: they did. Saquon Barkley completely froze the backside of that defense, 2360 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,920 Speaker 4: even though there were two offensive linemen pulling front side. 2361 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,680 Speaker 4: And then on the second play they over committed to 2362 01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,920 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. They had a lot of bodies 2363 01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,920 Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage, but they were all able 2364 01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:04,520 Speaker 4: to be blocked because the Eagles have the numbers, and 2365 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 4: so you just leave a deep safety behind the line 2366 01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:12,040 Speaker 4: of scrimmage to handle anything that breaks through on a 2367 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:13,000 Speaker 4: short yard it's play. 2368 01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 2369 01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,720 Speaker 4: That's just not going to be good enough to stop 2370 01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:20,720 Speaker 4: a guy like Sakwan Barkley. So the Eagles defensively, from 2371 01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,600 Speaker 4: a scheme standpoint, need to adjust. 2372 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, big kickoff return for the Eagles, some really sloppy. 2373 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:29,960 Speaker 3: RAM forty four yard line. 2374 01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:33,600 Speaker 1: That was some really awful tackling by their special teams 2375 01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:38,600 Speaker 1: to allow them get at least ten to twelve more yards. 2376 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,320 Speaker 1: It is definitely snowing now, folks, the field is turning away. 2377 01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:46,480 Speaker 1: They're showing highlights from Barkley's big runs against the Rams 2378 01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:50,120 Speaker 1: at are very dry Sofi Stadium earlier this year, but 2379 01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:52,680 Speaker 1: that is not the case. It's a white out situation 2380 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 1: right now in Philadelphia. So again, we've got a lot 2381 01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:59,640 Speaker 1: of time left here in the first half and the 2382 01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Eagle are going to see what they do on this drive. Again, 2383 02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:05,200 Speaker 1: two big plays have been it for the Eagles. The 2384 02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:07,640 Speaker 1: rest of it has been pretty pedestrian, and now they 2385 02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:09,600 Speaker 1: give the ball to Barkley barely gets a yard. 2386 02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:10,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna have much. 2387 02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,480 Speaker 1: More on this game, and yes we are gonna preview 2388 02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,680 Speaker 1: the game coming up the game. We all anticipate it's 2389 02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:18,160 Speaker 1: going to be a classic Bills and Ravens. This doesn't 2390 02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:20,960 Speaker 1: get any better if you're an NFL fan. It's a 2391 02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:25,440 Speaker 1: playoff day. Two tremendous games going on, Eagles, Rams later 2392 02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:28,560 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Ravens. This is the Red Zone Radio. 2393 02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:31,000 Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from the ti rack dot Com 2394 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,640 Speaker 1: studios tyrack dot com. We're gonna get you there in 2395 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:37,120 Speaker 1: unmatched selection, fast free shipping. Free road has a protection 2396 02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:40,640 Speaker 1: over ten thousand recommended installers ti iraq dot com the 2397 02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:42,680 Speaker 1: way tire buying should be. 2398 02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:43,400 Speaker 3: All right. 2399 02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:47,320 Speaker 1: So the Eagles have the ball. We're moving along quite easily. 2400 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Suddenly as the snow falls, they were handing the ball 2401 02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,440 Speaker 1: off to Berkley, and then all of a sudden, Jalen 2402 02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Hurts misfires, he throws a sideline pass badly overthrows, and 2403 02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:02,400 Speaker 1: then another coverage sat as the Rams get their second 2404 02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:04,920 Speaker 1: sack of the game. That's two sacks for eighteen yards 2405 02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:09,120 Speaker 1: and losses. These quarterbacks taking these huge losses. What happened 2406 02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:13,640 Speaker 1: with these quarterbacks understanding you can't take huge losses. I mean, 2407 02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,400 Speaker 1: you got to be able to get rid of the ball. 2408 02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Throw the ball away, but Jalen Hurts eats it again. 2409 02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,280 Speaker 1: So the Eagles have punted back to the Rams, who 2410 02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:23,800 Speaker 1: will start deep in their own territory. 2411 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:28,560 Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean the reality of that stunt was 2412 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:32,440 Speaker 4: it happened fast. The quickest point, or I should say 2413 02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:34,800 Speaker 4: the quickest route from one point to another is a 2414 02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:39,360 Speaker 4: straight line. And that's basically exactly what Eagles defensive end 2415 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:42,160 Speaker 4: or I should say Rams defensive end Jared Vers did 2416 02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:46,680 Speaker 4: he set up the left or the right tackle slammed 2417 02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:50,000 Speaker 4: into the right guard with a looping defensive tackle around him, 2418 02:01:50,480 --> 02:01:54,600 Speaker 4: so that took the tackles attention away and he was. 2419 02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:56,200 Speaker 3: Able to get straight to the quarterback. 2420 02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:59,840 Speaker 4: When it happens that quickly, you almost can't blame the 2421 02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,640 Speaker 4: quarterback because the only thing he should do is take 2422 02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:05,960 Speaker 4: the sack or try to escape where he can where 2423 02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,480 Speaker 4: safety is. Otherwise he could throw a pick and it 2424 02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:09,600 Speaker 4: could be costly. 2425 02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:09,560 Speaker 2: All right. 2426 02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:12,320 Speaker 1: So the Rams did a little trickery there resulted in 2427 02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:17,200 Speaker 1: a pass play to Tyler Higbee, who fumbled the ball. 2428 02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:21,160 Speaker 2: And I think the fumble was legit because as. 2429 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:22,920 Speaker 1: He was going down, he was on top of an 2430 02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Eagles player's body, so I don't think that his knee 2431 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:31,160 Speaker 1: had hit and but the Rams did recover and no, 2432 02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:35,560 Speaker 1: he was not on the ground that is that was a. 2433 02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So so fumble. It was a flee flicker te 2434 02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:41,880 Speaker 4: screen is what we're looking at. 2435 02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:43,200 Speaker 2: Here, right work beautifully. 2436 02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,120 Speaker 4: Kyron Williams gets the ball. It looks like it's going 2437 02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,040 Speaker 4: to be a straight up handoff and then all of 2438 02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:51,720 Speaker 4: a sudden, he turns around, tosses it back to Stafford, 2439 02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,280 Speaker 4: who finds Higbee out to the right side, and he's 2440 02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:57,200 Speaker 4: got a blocker in front of him. Now, you're absolutely right, 2441 02:02:57,280 --> 02:02:59,600 Speaker 4: because he was still on top of a. 2442 02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:00,360 Speaker 3: Defense under. 2443 02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,360 Speaker 4: That was absolutely a fumble and the Rams are very 2444 02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,320 Speaker 4: lucky that one of their players dove on the ball. 2445 02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,160 Speaker 3: That's a heads up play because. 2446 02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:14,000 Speaker 4: Otherwise that could have been an absolute disaster for the 2447 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:17,160 Speaker 4: Rams to trail by three with six point forty remaining 2448 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:18,400 Speaker 4: in the second quarter. 2449 02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the play right after that was a near 2450 02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 1: interception that was passed, that was thrown behind DeMarcus Robinson incomplete. 2451 02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:29,400 Speaker 2: The snow now is well whiting out the field. 2452 02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:34,200 Speaker 1: It is, as advertised, a steady stream of snow right now, 2453 02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,280 Speaker 1: and they say this will be continuing through the end 2454 02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,080 Speaker 1: of the game. So by the time we get to 2455 02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:41,840 Speaker 1: halftime right now, we got six and a half minutes 2456 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,840 Speaker 1: to go in the first half. I would imagine when 2457 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,440 Speaker 1: the teams come out for the second half, it's just 2458 02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:49,200 Speaker 1: going to be a blanket of snow out there. 2459 02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,120 Speaker 4: So and by the way, DeMarcus Robinson, to your point 2460 02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:55,360 Speaker 4: where Stafford almost threw that interception because it was underthrown. 2461 02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,000 Speaker 4: The only reason why he wasn't coming out of the 2462 02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,240 Speaker 4: break faster was because you almost slipped. 2463 02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:02,160 Speaker 3: At the top of his route. 2464 02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,040 Speaker 4: It looked like he was going to run the post 2465 02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,000 Speaker 4: and then he broke it off and he ran the corner, 2466 02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,600 Speaker 4: you know, So it was you know, it was that 2467 02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:10,720 Speaker 4: was the route concept he was supposed to run. But 2468 02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:13,200 Speaker 4: I mean, the field conditions are slippery out there. 2469 02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, the Rams on a third down kiro 2470 02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Wims got blown up for a loss, so the Rams 2471 02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:19,560 Speaker 1: are now gonna have to punt. 2472 02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,720 Speaker 2: So again, going back to the Rams decision. 2473 02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,160 Speaker 1: To go for the field goal earlier instead of going 2474 02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:27,200 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and two, I'm with you, Rich, 2475 02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it is going to be tough sledding literally 2476 02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the way for these teams and their offenses. 2477 02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:37,880 Speaker 2: My concern with Jalen. 2478 02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Hurts is he and I Bo, I'm gonna have to 2479 02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:46,240 Speaker 1: defer to you on this and the oh wow wow Yeah, 2480 02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:50,560 Speaker 1: a fumble on the punt recovered by the Eagles, so 2481 02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:54,840 Speaker 1: it's getting a little treacherous. But how's Jalen Hurts throwing 2482 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:56,200 Speaker 1: the ball under these conditions? 2483 02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:58,080 Speaker 6: That ball has to feel like a rock at this point, 2484 02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:58,520 Speaker 6: doesn't it. 2485 02:04:58,800 --> 02:04:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, like. 2486 02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,480 Speaker 1: When when it gets cold, that slippery rock and that's 2487 02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:02,960 Speaker 1: not good. 2488 02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:06,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, from the perspective of a you know, a former center. 2489 02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:09,920 Speaker 4: When it's a cold game and you're trying to you know, 2490 02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:11,720 Speaker 4: like wrap your hand around the ball and get the 2491 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:16,040 Speaker 4: normal traction or friction between your fingertips and the football, 2492 02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:20,360 Speaker 4: it's really difficult because the cold weather it stiffens up 2493 02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:24,520 Speaker 4: the leather. It makes it so that whatever gloves you're wearing, 2494 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,840 Speaker 4: or if you're bare handed, you're not getting the same 2495 02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,720 Speaker 4: tactile field feel. Also, when when you're talking about sub 2496 02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:35,120 Speaker 4: zero temperatures, which which there were sub zero temperatures that 2497 02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:37,320 Speaker 4: kick off and they've come up a little bit as 2498 02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:40,520 Speaker 4: the snow has come down, you you lose feeling to 2499 02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:43,240 Speaker 4: your fingertips, you know, so you don't have as good a. 2500 02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,120 Speaker 3: Control over the football as you would normally. 2501 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to make it emission, so 2502 02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, forty years ago I was working for the Raiders, 2503 02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:56,920 Speaker 1: and when you have an official NFL football in your hands, yeah, 2504 02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,680 Speaker 1: there are very few better feelings. I mean, the grip 2505 02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:02,560 Speaker 1: on that ball is insane. I mean you you you 2506 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:04,800 Speaker 1: say you've had well, I've had, I've carried I had. 2507 02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:07,600 Speaker 1: You haven't had an NFL football. I mean, these are 2508 02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:11,760 Speaker 1: this is different level football, and I have to admit, right, 2509 02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:15,320 Speaker 1: now I would take a football home. You know, this 2510 02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:17,280 Speaker 1: is still when I was in my twenties and my 2511 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:19,840 Speaker 1: buddies and I we would go because I just love 2512 02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:21,000 Speaker 1: throwing a football like that. 2513 02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2514 02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I have decent sized hands, so I got you know, 2515 02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I could really get a grip and just absolutely zip 2516 02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,920 Speaker 1: that ball and then my friends you want to catch it? 2517 02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Ah man, I mean the failing of the ball. But 2518 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:36,200 Speaker 1: like you said, that whole dynamic changes with weather conditions. 2519 02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:40,400 Speaker 1: And you know, we talk about playing in snow, maybe 2520 02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:42,720 Speaker 1: not as difficult as a driving rainstorm. 2521 02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:42,920 Speaker 3: You know. 2522 02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,720 Speaker 1: The worst obviously is a wind, you know, when you're 2523 02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:49,640 Speaker 1: trying to you know, throw the football around. But slippery 2524 02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,520 Speaker 1: is slippery. That's and we've already in just in the 2525 02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:55,160 Speaker 1: last minute, right, we've seen a fumble. 2526 02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:56,560 Speaker 2: We've seen a couple of fumbles. 2527 02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,839 Speaker 3: Uh so fun and it was yeah by the Eagles. 2528 02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say this, Steve, like, so that's all the 2529 02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:07,840 Speaker 4: physical issues with just the ball alone, and then you 2530 02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,840 Speaker 4: broad in the aperture to include all the receivers who 2531 02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:12,680 Speaker 4: are trying to run their routes. And like I mentioned, 2532 02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:15,880 Speaker 4: on the DeMarcus Robinson route, he had to take like 2533 02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,440 Speaker 4: probably six more steps than he normally would, and they 2534 02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:23,000 Speaker 4: were longer plotting strides coming out of his break then 2535 02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,440 Speaker 4: he would typically. You know, you break down quick, you 2536 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,680 Speaker 4: get out of that break in your route, and you 2537 02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:31,000 Speaker 4: provide a target for your quarterback. So the timing's off 2538 02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,560 Speaker 4: in the pass game, you know, unless you're running stop routes. 2539 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:35,560 Speaker 4: But then you got to trust the guy is going 2540 02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:37,440 Speaker 4: to be able to stop at the top of his route, 2541 02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:40,520 Speaker 4: turn around, and if and if he falls down, you're 2542 02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:43,080 Speaker 4: throwing it to a defender most likely. So there's got 2543 02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:46,320 Speaker 4: to be that trust there. The conditions can have an effect. 2544 02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:49,960 Speaker 4: Now again, if it's extreme heat or extreme cold, if 2545 02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:53,440 Speaker 4: it's rain or wind, all of those are worse than snow. 2546 02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:56,520 Speaker 4: But snow still has a factor on the outcome of 2547 02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:59,360 Speaker 4: a game. And so this game in the second quarter, 2548 02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:01,600 Speaker 4: just the way it's being played is going to be 2549 02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:04,160 Speaker 4: vastly different than the game that we played in the 2550 02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:04,720 Speaker 4: first quarter. 2551 02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:08,640 Speaker 1: All right, So the Eagles after the punt start inside 2552 02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:11,120 Speaker 1: their own ten yard line and the first play is 2553 02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,920 Speaker 1: just a very short run up the middle by Saquon Barclay. 2554 02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Eagles right now, Rich, what 2555 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,000 Speaker 1: are you taking some chances? You're gonna. I mean the 2556 02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:22,480 Speaker 1: Rams came out and threw that big ball to help 2557 02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,520 Speaker 1: set up that field goal to DeMarcus Robinson. Are you 2558 02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna take some chances? You got premiere receivers. What are 2559 02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you gonna do here? You got second and long and 2560 02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:32,520 Speaker 1: you're deep in your own territory. 2561 02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:35,120 Speaker 4: I listen, deep in your own territory. Yeah, but you 2562 02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,960 Speaker 4: still have the lead, and it's it's not a commanding lead, 2563 02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,720 Speaker 4: but but I would say get some passes out to 2564 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,680 Speaker 4: the sideline, closer to the line of scrimmage because you're 2565 02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:47,240 Speaker 4: dealing with the Rams pass rush that has gotten to 2566 02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:51,360 Speaker 4: your quarterback twice in consecutive drives and has ruined the party. 2567 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:54,800 Speaker 4: Ah man, the Eagles. I mean this is you can't 2568 02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:56,440 Speaker 4: have these unforced. 2569 02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:56,600 Speaker 3: Down my line. 2570 02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:59,440 Speaker 1: I got called for a Illiga procedure call there, So 2571 02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:02,960 Speaker 1: in back second and thirteen, dangerous time for the Eagles 2572 02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,560 Speaker 1: here because if you don't get a first down here, 2573 02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:07,720 Speaker 1: now you're punning out of your own end zone. 2574 02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:10,160 Speaker 4: And that's also a problem because you got to remember 2575 02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:13,720 Speaker 4: the kicking game is influenced by the cold football and 2576 02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:16,360 Speaker 4: the ball handling too, and when you're when you're when 2577 02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:19,800 Speaker 4: you're punning near your own goal line. You get into 2578 02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:21,520 Speaker 4: some real dangerous. 2579 02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:22,080 Speaker 3: Situations, all right. 2580 02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:25,560 Speaker 1: So on second down, Barkley carried the ball for barely 2581 02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:28,280 Speaker 1: a yard and he's pointing at the sidelines. 2582 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:30,640 Speaker 2: Was he limping a little bit on that? 2583 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:34,120 Speaker 3: You know what he may have been Let's see where now. 2584 02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:36,560 Speaker 1: No, he just seemed to be favoring the right leg 2585 02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:38,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit. 2586 02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:41,000 Speaker 4: It looked like, now, I don't know, maybe that could 2587 02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,120 Speaker 4: be his normal gait or maybe he was. 2588 02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, now you got third and fourteen from your own 2589 02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:48,080 Speaker 1: five yard line, So this is this is where things 2590 02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,200 Speaker 1: can get very very tricky. So third and fourteen from 2591 02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:52,200 Speaker 1: your own five. 2592 02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:54,120 Speaker 4: You gotta get off that. You have to move the 2593 02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,640 Speaker 4: football because you can't be punning from the endline. You 2594 02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:59,000 Speaker 4: get into the safety conversation. 2595 02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a little screenplay and that's going to 2596 02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:02,840 Speaker 1: get a first down. 2597 02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 2598 02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:07,440 Speaker 1: So the Rams backed up and they get the ball 2599 02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:11,480 Speaker 1: out to Saquon Barkley and on a little screenplay on 2600 02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,320 Speaker 1: third and fourteen, he gets the first down. 2601 02:10:14,440 --> 02:10:16,480 Speaker 4: Let me tell you why this was such a brilliant 2602 02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:19,840 Speaker 4: play called by the Eagles. Okay, so it worked, obviously, 2603 02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:22,520 Speaker 4: that makes you like it a lot more But here's 2604 02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,800 Speaker 4: the other reason. So what are you in danger of 2605 02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,560 Speaker 4: in the end zone? If a hold is called on 2606 02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,680 Speaker 4: your offensive lineman, it. 2607 02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:30,440 Speaker 3: Can be a safety. 2608 02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:32,920 Speaker 4: So what do you do you're near your own end zone? 2609 02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,800 Speaker 4: Run a screen pass because the offensive linement don't have. 2610 02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,280 Speaker 3: To block for very long. 2611 02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:39,480 Speaker 4: They give them an initial punch at the line of 2612 02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,480 Speaker 4: scrimmage and then welcome the rush. Then Jalen Hurts, all 2613 02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:44,480 Speaker 4: he has to do is connect with Saquon over the 2614 02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:46,680 Speaker 4: top of that rush, and you have got her. 2615 02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:49,040 Speaker 3: Leading the way from beautiful play design. 2616 02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:49,440 Speaker 2: All right. 2617 02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:53,280 Speaker 1: So the Eagles now picked up another first down, I believe, 2618 02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:56,480 Speaker 1: and we got two forty three to go. The clock 2619 02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,520 Speaker 1: is running right now. Both teams have their full allotment 2620 02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:01,880 Speaker 1: of three timeouts. Romani in this first half of the 2621 02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Eagles would love to get themselves into scoring position and 2622 02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:07,760 Speaker 1: add to this three point lead. 2623 02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:09,720 Speaker 2: But short passes. 2624 02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Right now, last couple of plays have worked beautifully for 2625 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:13,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles. 2626 02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Stevens, That's exactly what I said when we started this drive. 2627 02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:18,480 Speaker 3: I said the Eagles have to keep the ball close to. 2628 02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:20,760 Speaker 4: The line of scrimmage. The rush is getting home and 2629 02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:22,960 Speaker 4: they're doing a perfect job of it. The screen pass 2630 02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,920 Speaker 4: to Barkley the little flare route to game. Well there, 2631 02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:28,400 Speaker 4: just keep the ball close to the line of scrimmage in 2632 02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:31,440 Speaker 4: the pass game, limit the rush, and get the Rams 2633 02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:34,560 Speaker 4: a little bit worried. It was a nice run play 2634 02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,280 Speaker 4: by game Will too. I'll tell you what as a 2635 02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:40,160 Speaker 4: secondary punch to Barkley. He's impressed me all season long. 2636 02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:43,600 Speaker 1: Well again, it just seems like the Rams are allowing 2637 02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:46,160 Speaker 1: them to get yardage here. 2638 02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:48,680 Speaker 2: I the Rams seem to. 2639 02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Have lost a little bit of their aggression. Will continue 2640 02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:53,920 Speaker 1: on coverage of this game. We've had to the two 2641 02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:56,920 Speaker 1: minute warning. Eagles up thirteen to ten over the Rams. 2642 02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Also get you caught up on the big matchup later 2643 02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:02,200 Speaker 1: between the Bill and Ravens. This is Red Zone Radio 2644 02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:05,720 Speaker 1: all right. Once again we are broadcasting from the ti 2645 02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,640 Speaker 1: raq dot Com studios. Time out on the field right now. 2646 02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:12,240 Speaker 1: We got thirty seconds to go in the first half. 2647 02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Eagles leading the Rams thirteen to ten. It's been a 2648 02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:20,320 Speaker 1: grind of a drive for the Eagles to get into 2649 02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:24,960 Speaker 1: Rams territory. Remember this drive started inside their own ten 2650 02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:28,000 Speaker 1: yard line. They're now at the thirty two yard line 2651 02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,880 Speaker 1: of the Rams, where a second and eight the snow 2652 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:34,800 Speaker 1: continues to fall and right now, that looks like we 2653 02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:35,200 Speaker 1: got a. 2654 02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:36,120 Speaker 2: Sack a fumble. 2655 02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:39,120 Speaker 1: There's a fumble on the field and it is recovered 2656 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:42,880 Speaker 1: by the Eagles, but a huge loss on second and eight. 2657 02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:45,960 Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurts gets stripped of the ball on the sack, 2658 02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:48,240 Speaker 1: recovered by the Eagles, and all of a sudden they're 2659 02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:49,120 Speaker 1: out of field goal range. 2660 02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I hate that the Eagles keep doing this. I 2661 02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:52,600 Speaker 3: hate it. 2662 02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:56,160 Speaker 4: I think the script. Stick to the script that's working. 2663 02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:59,840 Speaker 4: The screen game, the short pass game, the run game 2664 02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,280 Speaker 4: is effective with both Saquon and Jalen Hurts. Get the 2665 02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:06,000 Speaker 4: ball into Gamewell's hands close to line of scrimmage, get 2666 02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,200 Speaker 4: the ball into in the passing game, into Saquon's hands 2667 02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:12,240 Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage, or Goddard, let's stop like 2668 02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:17,200 Speaker 4: running these twins formations in deep routes. First and foremost, 2669 02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:20,000 Speaker 4: your offensive line is struggling to block the pass rush 2670 02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:21,880 Speaker 4: of the rams. So Jalen Hurts is sacked for a 2671 02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,720 Speaker 4: third time, and this time they almost coughed up the football. 2672 02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:28,280 Speaker 4: And secondarily, aj Brown just missed on the deep shot. 2673 02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:30,920 Speaker 4: I mean, these receivers are having a hard time hold 2674 02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:34,320 Speaker 4: onto football and so his Hurts, so stick to the 2675 02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:38,080 Speaker 4: short game. I don't understand what Nick Sirianni's doing. I 2676 02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:40,760 Speaker 4: think it's going to ruin this this game for them 2677 02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,280 Speaker 4: that they're currently leading right now. 2678 02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Al right, so there's three seconds left and that's third 2679 02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:51,120 Speaker 1: and twenty one. So they let the clock running down 2680 02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:53,880 Speaker 1: to three seconds for a hail Mary's what they're gonna do. 2681 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:57,839 Speaker 1: So the fumble took them out of field goal range, 2682 02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:00,400 Speaker 1: So now on third and twenty one, they're going to 2683 02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:01,520 Speaker 1: run a hail mary play. 2684 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:02,640 Speaker 2: You mentioned a J. Brown. 2685 02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:05,520 Speaker 1: He had what looked like a potential touchdown, but he 2686 02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:08,080 Speaker 1: lost control of the ball and by the time he 2687 02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:09,920 Speaker 1: got control of the ball, he was out of bounce. 2688 02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:11,760 Speaker 2: So that was the end of that play. 2689 02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:15,600 Speaker 1: So the Eagles interesting allow the clock to run down 2690 02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:22,320 Speaker 1: to set up a hail mary is basically what they're 2691 02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:23,120 Speaker 1: doing right now. 2692 02:14:23,320 --> 02:14:25,920 Speaker 6: You asked me earlier how I felt about Jaellen Hurts 2693 02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:28,080 Speaker 6: having to throw the ball in this game. I don't 2694 02:14:28,080 --> 02:14:29,720 Speaker 6: feel good about Jalen Hurts throwing the ball when the 2695 02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:30,560 Speaker 6: weather's perfect. 2696 02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:33,600 Speaker 1: I know you well, we'll see what they do on 2697 02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:37,560 Speaker 1: this hail mary play. It is the snow is coming down. 2698 02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, when they get out for that second half. Man, 2699 02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:45,960 Speaker 1: that field is going to be absolutely blanketed with snow, 2700 02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:48,680 Speaker 1: all right, So we'll have one more play here and 2701 02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:51,040 Speaker 1: then we get to halftime. We're going to start digging 2702 02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:54,000 Speaker 1: in on that matchup between the Bills and the Ravens. 2703 02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,000 Speaker 1: So here we go. One more play here in the 2704 02:14:57,040 --> 02:15:01,640 Speaker 1: first half, and again under the these conditions, anything could happen. 2705 02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:02,360 Speaker 3: I'm anything. 2706 02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:05,120 Speaker 1: It's equally slippery for a defender as it is for 2707 02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:05,720 Speaker 1: a receiver. 2708 02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:08,440 Speaker 3: So I get it, I get it. I understand. 2709 02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:12,480 Speaker 4: Everybody gets a little greedy, and everybody wants a situation 2710 02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:14,840 Speaker 4: where they take a chunk out of the defense and 2711 02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:15,560 Speaker 4: maybe put. 2712 02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:18,560 Speaker 2: The Well, there's no Hail Mary because he got sacked again. 2713 02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:21,839 Speaker 4: So they cannot hold up against this Rams rush. 2714 02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:24,840 Speaker 1: So that is halftime. Jalen hurds four sacks, forty one 2715 02:15:24,920 --> 02:15:27,560 Speaker 1: yards and losses on those four seat sacks. Yeah, listen, 2716 02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,440 Speaker 1: that's a net twenty five yards passing a halftime for 2717 02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:30,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles. 2718 02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:32,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, Jalen Hurts did the right thing, 2719 02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:34,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Don't try to. 2720 02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:37,360 Speaker 4: Heave it downfield or play hero ball here. The half 2721 02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:40,320 Speaker 4: is about to tick off the clock, you know, you're 2722 02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:42,240 Speaker 4: leading by three, so take the sack. 2723 02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:42,800 Speaker 3: I get it. 2724 02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:46,240 Speaker 4: But this offensive line is struggling up front to block 2725 02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:48,600 Speaker 4: the Rams for longer than a couple of seconds. Right, 2726 02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:52,080 Speaker 4: They're having a very effective pass rush up front. The 2727 02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:55,240 Speaker 4: downfield pass game is not working. You just tried to 2728 02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:58,280 Speaker 4: connect with aj Brown, as you perfectly stated, Steve, it 2729 02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:01,040 Speaker 4: took him so long to collect that football, even though 2730 02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:03,840 Speaker 4: it was almost all the way down to the one 2731 02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:04,560 Speaker 4: yard line. 2732 02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:05,400 Speaker 3: He couldn't. 2733 02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:08,320 Speaker 4: And so you waste it down throwing deep down the field. 2734 02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:11,240 Speaker 4: It's it's not worth it, especially when the run game 2735 02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:13,920 Speaker 4: and the short pass game has been so effective for 2736 02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:15,160 Speaker 4: the Eagles all game long. 2737 02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, Chris was one of those defenders of the idea 2738 02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:20,040 Speaker 1: of the Rams taking that field goal, and he said, 2739 02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:22,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while before we see anymore scoring 2740 02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:23,360 Speaker 1: in this game. 2741 02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:24,960 Speaker 2: And we haven't seen any. 2742 02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:27,040 Speaker 1: Scoring Chris in this game since then. 2743 02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:27,400 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2744 02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:30,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, points and by the way it's coming down, points 2745 02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:31,840 Speaker 10: are gonna be a premium. I think of the second 2746 02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:34,360 Speaker 10: half is it always feels like when we get one 2747 02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:36,800 Speaker 10: of these games where we think like it might be 2748 02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:39,640 Speaker 10: a foot race, sometimes it just turns into this kind of. 2749 02:16:39,720 --> 02:16:43,320 Speaker 1: But but here Here's the thing, and I've heard many 2750 02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:48,039 Speaker 1: players talk about this, these conditions favor offense in this sense, 2751 02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:50,959 Speaker 1: is that they know where they're going. In other words, 2752 02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, the receiver knows where he's going. You got, 2753 02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, a defense backing up and reacting to it. 2754 02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:59,879 Speaker 1: One misstep and a guy could be off to the race. 2755 02:17:00,280 --> 02:17:03,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, it does feel like, you know, especially I think 2756 02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:05,280 Speaker 10: we saw it in the what was it the Cleveland 2757 02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:07,840 Speaker 10: Steelers game earlier this year, a little bit of slip 2758 02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:10,720 Speaker 10: and slide from the defenders. You kind of get this, 2759 02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:13,000 Speaker 10: and I believe there was quite a bit of you know, 2760 02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:15,879 Speaker 10: it's it turns into turnover city. But also at the 2761 02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:19,279 Speaker 10: same time, scoring opportunities just open up across the field. 2762 02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Halftime stats Matthew Stafford ten to fifteen, hundred and twenty 2763 02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:25,440 Speaker 1: six yards and a score, no picks, Very steady numbers there. 2764 02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:28,840 Speaker 1: He was stacked once Jalen Hurts nine to twelve, not bad, 2765 02:17:28,920 --> 02:17:32,000 Speaker 1: but just sixty six yards and again four sacks, forty 2766 02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:34,959 Speaker 1: one yards and losses. But how about this Eagles one 2767 02:17:35,160 --> 02:17:38,720 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one yards rushing at halftime, Well, one 2768 02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:41,959 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one yards rush yet halftime that's my pay. 2769 02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,400 Speaker 1: Eleven carries ninety four yards. Jalen hurts five carries sixty seven. 2770 02:17:45,680 --> 02:17:46,360 Speaker 3: That's my point. 2771 02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:49,680 Speaker 4: And that's the whole story here, Steve, is the fact 2772 02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:53,000 Speaker 4: that I don't know if it's Nick Sirianni is so 2773 02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:58,560 Speaker 4: worried about maybe the NFC Championship game against the Commanders 2774 02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:01,440 Speaker 4: that he needs to make sure that he's keeping his 2775 02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:02,720 Speaker 4: receivers engaged. 2776 02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, like, why not do what works. One of 2777 02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:09,640 Speaker 3: my favorite things about playing in New England was some 2778 02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:10,560 Speaker 3: games Tom. 2779 02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:13,200 Speaker 4: Brady would throw the football fifty times and sometimes he 2780 02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:16,879 Speaker 4: would throw it twenty and guess what, we won a 2781 02:18:16,879 --> 02:18:20,360 Speaker 4: lot of football games. It's because whatever the game ask 2782 02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:23,119 Speaker 4: you for. If it was a weather game, we're gonna 2783 02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:24,520 Speaker 4: throw the ball close line of scrimmage. 2784 02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:25,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna run the game. 2785 02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:27,920 Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna major in the screen game and 2786 02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:31,039 Speaker 4: the draw game. You know, those delayed handoffs because if 2787 02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:33,760 Speaker 4: the pass rush is invited upfield, you can sneak some 2788 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:37,840 Speaker 4: rushes underneath. All those things work in weather, all these 2789 02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:41,720 Speaker 4: deep passes, especially with Jared Verse backing the ball to 2790 02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:44,280 Speaker 4: talk that he did this week, having a field day 2791 02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:47,920 Speaker 4: in the backfield against your offensive line, What are you doing? 2792 02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:51,600 Speaker 4: It's like Nick Sirianni isn't watching the same game the rest. 2793 02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:52,279 Speaker 3: Of us are watching. 2794 02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:56,000 Speaker 4: Give the ball to Saquon Barkley. He almost broke the 2795 02:18:56,080 --> 02:18:58,879 Speaker 4: single season rushing record. Throw it out to him in 2796 02:18:58,920 --> 02:19:02,200 Speaker 4: the flats. Let Al Hurts run the football. What are 2797 02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,800 Speaker 4: we doing? If I walked into the locker room as 2798 02:19:04,800 --> 02:19:07,879 Speaker 4: an offensive line with the offensive lineman with the Eagles, 2799 02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:11,480 Speaker 4: I would give my offensive coordinator an earful I would say, 2800 02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:14,800 Speaker 4: what are we doing? We're throwing the football like it's 2801 02:19:14,800 --> 02:19:18,600 Speaker 4: early September in Miami. Could we please play football the 2802 02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:22,000 Speaker 4: way the weather is dictating it. This is a ridiculous 2803 02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:24,040 Speaker 4: game plan for Philadelphia. 2804 02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:25,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned Jared Verse. 2805 02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:28,480 Speaker 1: What a rookie season, right, made the Pro Bowl as 2806 02:19:28,520 --> 02:19:31,800 Speaker 1: a rookie, which is very rare. Two sacks by the way, 2807 02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:33,760 Speaker 1: in the first half for him out of Florida State. 2808 02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:37,400 Speaker 1: Began his college career at Albany. That's where he started 2809 02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:39,960 Speaker 1: his college career, and it up at Florida State and 2810 02:19:39,959 --> 02:19:44,520 Speaker 1: now first unbelievable. All right, let's start on this game 2811 02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:47,560 Speaker 1: coming up here between the Bills and the Ravens, much 2812 02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:50,080 Speaker 1: like this game between the Eagles and the Rams. This 2813 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:53,520 Speaker 1: is a rematch, and just like the game earlier between 2814 02:19:53,560 --> 02:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Eagles that was one sided, it 2815 02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:59,120 Speaker 1: was even more one sided the match up between the 2816 02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:01,520 Speaker 1: Ravens and Bills. Remember this was when the Ravens start 2817 02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:03,680 Speaker 1: off with a couple of unlikely losses. 2818 02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:04,840 Speaker 2: They were stumbling around. 2819 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:07,400 Speaker 1: They had a home game against the Bills, who were 2820 02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:12,600 Speaker 1: looking like dynamite early, and the Bills got annihilated thirty 2821 02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:15,960 Speaker 1: five to ten in a game where Derek Henry had 2822 02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:17,959 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety nine yards. Remember we were like, wow, 2823 02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Derek Henry's back. He had an eighty seven yard touchdown 2824 02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:24,400 Speaker 1: run that It's a long time ago, but it was 2825 02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:25,240 Speaker 1: this season. 2826 02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:26,920 Speaker 2: It was I think a lot of people are just 2827 02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:27,920 Speaker 2: curious rich. 2828 02:20:28,400 --> 02:20:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, when you get lose to a team, okay, 2829 02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:34,920 Speaker 1: but when you get annihilated, especially when you think you're 2830 02:20:34,959 --> 02:20:37,520 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm sure the Bills go into that game like, 2831 02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:39,720 Speaker 1: all right, Ravens are struggling a little bit, we're playing 2832 02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:41,959 Speaker 1: some good football, and then you get. 2833 02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:44,400 Speaker 2: Blown out psychologically. 2834 02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Is that something that can stay with you all these 2835 02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:49,640 Speaker 1: months later or is that long forgotten? 2836 02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:52,279 Speaker 3: It's long forgotten. 2837 02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:57,560 Speaker 4: And here's why, even though you're going to watch plays 2838 02:20:57,640 --> 02:21:01,080 Speaker 4: from that game because from a personnel stand point, you know, 2839 02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:03,959 Speaker 4: you want to view you know, how you played against 2840 02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:08,400 Speaker 4: their exact players. From the standpoint of scheme, you know, 2841 02:21:08,480 --> 02:21:12,400 Speaker 4: sometimes there's carryover from earlier in the season all throughout 2842 02:21:12,400 --> 02:21:12,920 Speaker 4: the season. 2843 02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:15,400 Speaker 3: But Steve, you know this as well as I do. 2844 02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:18,920 Speaker 4: So much changes in just a month in the NFL, 2845 02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:22,520 Speaker 4: let alone months. You know, you have injuries, you have 2846 02:21:22,640 --> 02:21:26,480 Speaker 4: evolutions of playbooks, you have plays that have sort of 2847 02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:29,080 Speaker 4: just been scrap heaped, you have other plays that have 2848 02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:32,680 Speaker 4: been added to the game plan. The the nothing is 2849 02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:36,320 Speaker 4: stagnant in the NFL, So you can only think about 2850 02:21:36,320 --> 02:21:39,320 Speaker 4: what's happened in the past so much because it doesn't 2851 02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:41,640 Speaker 4: really help inform you. And by the way that that 2852 02:21:41,720 --> 02:21:44,760 Speaker 4: pendulum swings both ways, same thing for the Ravens. You 2853 02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:46,480 Speaker 4: know you're gonna turn on that game film of the 2854 02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:48,879 Speaker 4: Buffalo Building you say, oh, wow, we're world beaters. 2855 02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:51,320 Speaker 3: We beat the Bills by But yeah, it doesn't matter 2856 02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:53,560 Speaker 3: right now. So so you you glean. 2857 02:21:53,440 --> 02:21:56,240 Speaker 4: What you can from the film in terms of personnel 2858 02:21:56,440 --> 02:22:01,880 Speaker 4: and matchups. If there's any holdover play the gameplay that 2859 02:22:01,959 --> 02:22:04,959 Speaker 4: you can you can sort of latch onto tenancies things 2860 02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:07,560 Speaker 4: like that. Sure you can look at that, but in 2861 02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:09,920 Speaker 4: terms of the score of that game, all that's been 2862 02:22:09,959 --> 02:22:13,480 Speaker 4: deleted because the postseason is a brand new season and 2863 02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:14,720 Speaker 4: that was so many months ago. 2864 02:22:14,959 --> 02:22:18,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what is trending right now. 2865 02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:21,720 Speaker 1: All right, So my bull prediction is the loser. Okay, 2866 02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:23,920 Speaker 1: that's that's hello, Kyroon Williams. 2867 02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:24,800 Speaker 8: Second half the. 2868 02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:26,880 Speaker 1: Kira Williams runs for one hundred and fifty yards in 2869 02:22:26,920 --> 02:22:28,600 Speaker 1: the second half of is you never know. 2870 02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:29,440 Speaker 3: You never know. 2871 02:22:29,959 --> 02:22:32,240 Speaker 8: I'm going to break off a tackle and then run. 2872 02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:35,360 Speaker 1: I know my prognostication skills are weak, but I'm gonna 2873 02:22:35,360 --> 02:22:37,320 Speaker 1: predict he doesn't have one hundred si years. 2874 02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:40,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, no's that's probably a safe bet. But it's all right, 2875 02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:43,320 Speaker 8: it's all good. We'll see what happens in the second half. 2876 02:22:43,360 --> 02:22:46,560 Speaker 8: Now that it is snowing in Philadelphia, Eagles are on 2877 02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:49,439 Speaker 8: top thirteen to ten. Jalen Hurts. 2878 02:22:49,480 --> 02:22:52,080 Speaker 7: He has five carries and sixty seven yards and a 2879 02:22:52,120 --> 02:22:54,400 Speaker 7: touchdown on the ground. He's nine of twelve for sixty 2880 02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:57,640 Speaker 7: six yards in the air. Saquon Barkley, though eleven carries 2881 02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:00,680 Speaker 7: ninety four yards and a touchdown on the laid Matthew 2882 02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:03,400 Speaker 7: Stafford in the air ten of fifteen, one hundred and 2883 02:23:03,400 --> 02:23:06,600 Speaker 7: twenty six cards and a touchdown Kyron Williams nine carries 2884 02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:08,400 Speaker 7: for forty six yards. 2885 02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:09,320 Speaker 8: Still to come. 2886 02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:11,880 Speaker 7: You guys have trying to break it down the Eagles, 2887 02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:13,720 Speaker 7: excuse me, the Ravens and the Bills. Kick off is 2888 02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:17,400 Speaker 7: at six thirty Eastern time. There is a video of 2889 02:23:17,480 --> 02:23:21,600 Speaker 7: Zay Flowers circulating that he's running, but he's running straight, 2890 02:23:21,879 --> 02:23:24,000 Speaker 7: no like lateral, no pushing off, none of that. 2891 02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:26,560 Speaker 8: So we'll see. It's not expected that he's gonna play. 2892 02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:28,920 Speaker 7: But there is a video of video circulating that Zay 2893 02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:31,560 Speaker 7: Flowers is out there running and warming up in the 2894 02:23:31,680 --> 02:23:33,760 Speaker 7: NBA one game going on the heat or on top 2895 02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:36,200 Speaker 7: of the Spurs sixty four to fifty two, halfway through 2896 02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:39,600 Speaker 7: the third quarter. In the men's college hoops in overtime, 2897 02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:43,240 Speaker 7: Number twenty Michigan beating Northwestern seventy six to seventy three 2898 02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:46,480 Speaker 7: with about sixteen seconds to go. Northwestern has the ball, 2899 02:23:46,879 --> 02:23:49,320 Speaker 7: so we'll see how this one ends. Number eighteen Memphis 2900 02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:52,160 Speaker 7: is beating Charlotte fifty nine to forty three with about 2901 02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:54,000 Speaker 7: ten minutes to go in the second half. And number 2902 02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:56,879 Speaker 7: twelve Michigan State has extended their winning streak to eleven 2903 02:23:57,200 --> 02:24:00,560 Speaker 7: after beating number nineteen Illinois eighty to seven D eight 2904 02:24:00,879 --> 02:24:04,320 Speaker 7: and Yes, the Australian Open continues Novak Djokovic when it's 2905 02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:05,520 Speaker 7: fourth round match in straight sets. 2906 02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:07,640 Speaker 8: He is headed to the quarterfinals where he will face 2907 02:24:07,720 --> 02:24:08,960 Speaker 8: Carlos al Karaz. 2908 02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:09,360 Speaker 9: Oh. 2909 02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:11,520 Speaker 7: Last thing here that I'll tell you just something they 2910 02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:14,520 Speaker 7: said on the broadcast with Sakon Barkley. They had to 2911 02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:18,160 Speaker 7: wrap his left wrist, so he came out of the game. 2912 02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:20,879 Speaker 8: Had they tackled him. He was holding his hand. 2913 02:24:20,920 --> 02:24:23,039 Speaker 7: They took off his glove, they wrapped it all up 2914 02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:25,560 Speaker 7: and put his glove back on on his left wrist. 2915 02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:27,160 Speaker 8: It's just something to keep an eye on. 2916 02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he seems pretty indestructible to me. 2917 02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:32,840 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, wellh Gary's. 2918 02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Ninety four yards by the way, moncie, I'm gonna ask 2919 02:24:35,640 --> 02:24:38,640 Speaker 1: everybody this. So I'm watching the broadcast here they're showing 2920 02:24:38,879 --> 02:24:41,879 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee and Jason Garrett on the sideline talking and 2921 02:24:41,959 --> 02:24:45,039 Speaker 1: Dungee has headgear of when it's that cold, and I'm 2922 02:24:45,080 --> 02:24:47,680 Speaker 1: watching Jason Garretty as nothing covering his ears. 2923 02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:48,240 Speaker 11: Yeah. 2924 02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but when I'm in really 2925 02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:54,520 Speaker 1: cold weather, My ears go quick the first thing, like, 2926 02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:55,880 Speaker 1: it gets painful. 2927 02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, painful. 2928 02:24:57,400 --> 02:25:02,400 Speaker 1: And I'm literally in pain watching Jason Garrett with his 2929 02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:05,760 Speaker 1: ears exposed in that cold weather in Philadelphia. 2930 02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:07,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know, he's probably like power through. Probably 2931 02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:10,280 Speaker 8: he probably can't feel him anymore. There probably feels like 2932 02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:13,360 Speaker 8: just yes, they start aching, I know aching. 2933 02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:15,880 Speaker 7: I mean Sean McVay looked like he was just wearing 2934 02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:18,440 Speaker 7: a light little jacket, I know, And I was like, 2935 02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:21,160 Speaker 7: he has to have like electric heaters under that jacket. 2936 02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:23,200 Speaker 8: It looked like just like a zip up. I was like, 2937 02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:25,000 Speaker 8: how are you not freezing? 2938 02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, Rich, did your ears get cold? I 2939 02:25:27,879 --> 02:25:31,320 Speaker 1: don't know why my ears are so sensitive, but when 2940 02:25:31,360 --> 02:25:34,279 Speaker 1: my ears get exposed to really cold weather, it doesn't 2941 02:25:34,280 --> 02:25:37,119 Speaker 1: take it a lot for them to not like pain, 2942 02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:38,320 Speaker 1: like they're hur team. 2943 02:25:38,640 --> 02:25:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll say this. 2944 02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:46,000 Speaker 4: My ears in snow games cold games were literally the 2945 02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:49,000 Speaker 4: last thing I was thinking about. I was, you know 2946 02:25:49,080 --> 02:25:51,480 Speaker 4: what it was for offensive linemen. I'm sure every old 2947 02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:54,160 Speaker 4: lineman will be nodding in agreement to this statement. It's 2948 02:25:54,200 --> 02:25:57,400 Speaker 4: your fingertips. It doesn't matter if you're wearing gloves, it 2949 02:25:57,440 --> 02:25:59,920 Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you're not. It doesn't matter what you 2950 02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:04,279 Speaker 4: do on the sideline. Your fingers feel like shattering glass. 2951 02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:07,240 Speaker 4: Every time you lunch and you hit a face mask, 2952 02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:09,959 Speaker 4: a freezing gold face mask, or the side of someone's 2953 02:26:09,959 --> 02:26:12,280 Speaker 4: helmet or the chest place so the plate of their 2954 02:26:12,280 --> 02:26:15,840 Speaker 4: shoulder pads. It feels like your fingers are breaking every 2955 02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:18,440 Speaker 4: time you make contact with hard plastic or. 2956 02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:21,279 Speaker 1: How long does it? I mean when when you finish 2957 02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:23,400 Speaker 1: a game like this, I mean I want to tie. 2958 02:26:23,480 --> 02:26:26,160 Speaker 2: Like really cold weather, and obviously tonight. 2959 02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:28,400 Speaker 1: Is really gonna be cold. Yeah, I mean we're talking 2960 02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:34,160 Speaker 1: sub ten degree weather at Orchard Park. Do you go 2961 02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:36,880 Speaker 1: in a hot shower after the gate? How does that work? 2962 02:26:36,959 --> 02:26:40,320 Speaker 4: Well, you get in a hot shower immediately, and your 2963 02:26:40,760 --> 02:26:42,879 Speaker 4: body will light on fire. 2964 02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:45,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, right, So think of. 2965 02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:45,760 Speaker 3: It this way. 2966 02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:49,880 Speaker 4: Like imagine if you took your hand for three hours 2967 02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:53,440 Speaker 4: and you left it in an ice bath, right, Okay, 2968 02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:56,120 Speaker 4: and then the first thing you did is you turned 2969 02:26:56,160 --> 02:26:58,400 Speaker 4: on like one hundred and two degree one hundred and 2970 02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:01,680 Speaker 4: four degree shower and you put that hand in that shower. 2971 02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:04,720 Speaker 4: All of those nerves would be so deadened and numb 2972 02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:09,400 Speaker 4: as they wake up, it feels like a million needles 2973 02:27:09,480 --> 02:27:12,039 Speaker 4: poking at them. It's not good for you. So what 2974 02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:17,000 Speaker 4: you do This sounds counterintuitive, but after a game like that, 2975 02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:20,160 Speaker 4: like in Orchard Park later on tonight between Baltimore and Buffalo, 2976 02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:22,400 Speaker 4: you go into the shower and you turn it on 2977 02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:25,840 Speaker 4: cold because even though the water temp is going to 2978 02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:30,320 Speaker 4: be like, I don't know, say forty five to fifty degrees, 2979 02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:33,320 Speaker 4: it'll be tap cold, it's still going to be so 2980 02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:36,760 Speaker 4: much warmer than the temperature you're coming out of that 2981 02:27:36,879 --> 02:27:38,959 Speaker 4: it's going to feel like you're in a warm shower. 2982 02:27:39,240 --> 02:27:41,440 Speaker 3: And then you gradually, I'm not even. 2983 02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:44,800 Speaker 4: Kidding, this is whateverthing makes sense, You gradually increase the 2984 02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:47,000 Speaker 4: temperature of the shower until your. 2985 02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:52,040 Speaker 3: Nerves stop barking. But it takes you hours to feel 2986 02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:52,760 Speaker 3: better after that. 2987 02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Hey, don't forget after Our shower podcast is going episode. 2988 02:27:55,480 --> 02:27:57,680 Speaker 1: If you missed any of today's show, check out the podcast. 2989 02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast, 2990 02:28:00,440 --> 02:28:02,920 Speaker 1: and then follow rate and review the podcast. Again. Just 2991 02:28:02,959 --> 02:28:06,040 Speaker 1: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and 2992 02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:07,240 Speaker 1: you'll see the show posted. 2993 02:28:07,320 --> 02:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Right after we get off the air. 2994 02:28:08,879 --> 02:28:11,080 Speaker 1: We were talking about Derreck Henry going off for one 2995 02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:14,800 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety nine yards against the Bills earlier this year. 2996 02:28:14,959 --> 02:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Here's an interesting set about Derrick Henry. So he's had 2997 02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:21,440 Speaker 1: eight playoff games in his career, and he's had at 2998 02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:25,200 Speaker 1: least one hundred and fifty yards rushing in four of 2999 02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:29,320 Speaker 1: those eight games, one fifty. In fact, the only other 3000 02:28:29,400 --> 02:28:32,000 Speaker 1: running back who's ever had four to one hundred and 3001 02:28:32,080 --> 02:28:38,480 Speaker 1: fifty yard postseason rushing days is Terrell Davis, Which is 3002 02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:41,720 Speaker 1: why Terrell Davis, in a very shortened career, was able 3003 02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:44,760 Speaker 1: to still, i think rightfully so earn his place in 3004 02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:49,879 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. So, you know, 3005 02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:52,080 Speaker 1: we look when we look at this game between the 3006 02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:54,800 Speaker 1: Ravens and Bills, and by the way, both these teams 3007 02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:58,280 Speaker 1: have just had so many bitter disappointments. Remember both these 3008 02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:02,560 Speaker 1: teams had home games against Mahomes and the Chiefs and 3009 02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:06,200 Speaker 1: they both lost, and it was like that was their year, right, 3010 02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:07,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to have to hit the road, 3011 02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:11,240 Speaker 1: and they go to Buffalo and they win. They go 3012 02:29:11,280 --> 02:29:13,680 Speaker 1: to Baltimore and what you and I agree was one 3013 02:29:13,680 --> 02:29:16,600 Speaker 1: of the worst offensive game plans for a team in 3014 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,640 Speaker 1: NFL playoff history. I don't know what the Ravens were thinking, 3015 02:29:20,200 --> 02:29:22,959 Speaker 1: you know, having Lamar Jackson in a one score game, 3016 02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:25,000 Speaker 1: throw with the ball what forty times? It was crazy. 3017 02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:26,440 Speaker 1: He didn't make any sense at all. 3018 02:29:28,040 --> 02:29:28,840 Speaker 3: But you know. 3019 02:29:30,680 --> 02:29:35,480 Speaker 1: There's a feeling by many as the Chiefs now will 3020 02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:37,800 Speaker 1: sit at home waiting for the winner of this game, 3021 02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:43,680 Speaker 1: that not only the battle between these two really good 3022 02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,680 Speaker 1: football teams is going to be fierce enough, but then 3023 02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:49,080 Speaker 1: you add the weather elements of what they're going to 3024 02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:54,160 Speaker 1: have to battle through. Whichever team survives this game, what 3025 02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of condition are they going to be in when 3026 02:29:57,160 --> 02:29:58,680 Speaker 1: they head to Kansas City next week? 3027 02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:06,240 Speaker 4: Man, I'll say this, whoever survives this game is going 3028 02:30:06,280 --> 02:30:08,200 Speaker 4: to be war beaten. 3029 02:30:08,480 --> 02:30:09,879 Speaker 3: Oh there's no question. 3030 02:30:10,360 --> 02:30:13,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're going to You're going to have 3031 02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:14,280 Speaker 4: to survive this game. 3032 02:30:14,680 --> 02:30:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean that's the truth. 3033 02:30:16,480 --> 02:30:20,600 Speaker 4: So whatever version of the Baltimore Ravens or the Buffalo 3034 02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:23,520 Speaker 4: Bills the Chiefs are getting to see at home in 3035 02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:27,920 Speaker 4: Kansas City for the AFC Championship game is probably going 3036 02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:30,840 Speaker 4: to be one that's that's been through an emotional victory 3037 02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:35,119 Speaker 4: and extreme temperatures and all the things that we've already 3038 02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:39,000 Speaker 4: talked about about that. So it's look, the Chiefs are 3039 02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:41,400 Speaker 4: in a favorable position again, I. 3040 02:30:41,360 --> 02:30:42,160 Speaker 3: Mean they hardly are. 3041 02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:44,640 Speaker 1: Steve, you really are, I mean, because like I said, 3042 02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:48,160 Speaker 1: like you say, I one hundred percent agree. Whoever survives 3043 02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:51,360 Speaker 1: this game between the Ravens and Bills tona evil, I mean, 3044 02:30:51,560 --> 02:30:53,920 Speaker 1: is going to be messed up, all right. Second half 3045 02:30:53,959 --> 02:30:57,360 Speaker 1: is underway. Rams try a deep ball to Cooper Cup 3046 02:30:57,360 --> 02:31:01,000 Speaker 1: on the sidelines and it wasn't even close. That was 3047 02:31:01,959 --> 02:31:04,160 Speaker 1: not a close call. So the Rams try to come 3048 02:31:04,160 --> 02:31:05,800 Speaker 1: out throwing the ball. Let's see what they try to 3049 02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:07,680 Speaker 1: do now. They hand the ball off to Kyra Williams 3050 02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:10,240 Speaker 1: gets very little up the middle. By the way, that 3051 02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:14,280 Speaker 1: game later on between the Ravens and Bills, with such 3052 02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:18,640 Speaker 1: severe weather conditions could come down to a kicking game. 3053 02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:21,879 Speaker 1: And the bad news is, you know Tyler Bass and 3054 02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:24,440 Speaker 1: obviously Justin Tucker, who's one of the greatest kickers in 3055 02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:26,520 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, NEI that one of them 3056 02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:27,280 Speaker 1: had a good year. 3057 02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:28,480 Speaker 3: Tucker. 3058 02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:32,600 Speaker 1: Tucker really struggled and Bass miss five extra points this year. 3059 02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:37,840 Speaker 1: When so when you have two struggling kickers and then 3060 02:31:37,879 --> 02:31:41,760 Speaker 1: you tack on really bad weather conditions and then it 3061 02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:44,640 Speaker 1: comes down to decision time late in the game, you 3062 02:31:44,720 --> 02:31:46,320 Speaker 1: go for the field goal. Here, what are we're going 3063 02:31:46,400 --> 02:31:48,880 Speaker 1: to do that could be a big play in this game. 3064 02:31:48,879 --> 02:31:51,000 Speaker 1: All right, third down for the Rams and it's going 3065 02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:53,960 Speaker 1: to come up short of the first down. So Rams 3066 02:31:54,000 --> 02:31:56,280 Speaker 1: opening drive of the second half and they are going 3067 02:31:56,320 --> 02:31:58,520 Speaker 1: to have to punt the ball away. And you just 3068 02:31:58,600 --> 02:32:00,520 Speaker 1: get a sense with the rest of this game between 3069 02:32:00,520 --> 02:32:04,920 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Eagles, rich again avoid the big mistake. 3070 02:32:05,240 --> 02:32:09,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And to be perfectly honest with you, I'm I'm 3071 02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:13,400 Speaker 4: liking the way the Eagles are playing defense. They're giving 3072 02:32:13,440 --> 02:32:16,520 Speaker 4: the Rams enough room in the in the past game, 3073 02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:19,400 Speaker 4: you know, to They're keeping everything in front of them. 3074 02:32:19,879 --> 02:32:23,640 Speaker 4: And the only thing I would clean up is, look, yeah, 3075 02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:26,360 Speaker 4: two home run shots that you gave up to Saquon 3076 02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:30,160 Speaker 4: Barkley and to Jalen Hurts. You cannot over commit now 3077 02:32:30,320 --> 02:32:32,560 Speaker 4: too many bodies to line of scrimmage because if you 3078 02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:35,360 Speaker 4: do that and you get sucked up close within that 3079 02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:38,640 Speaker 4: five yard box, all takes is one broken tackle and 3080 02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:40,760 Speaker 4: either one of those two players can beat. 3081 02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:41,800 Speaker 3: You, especially Saquon. 3082 02:32:42,200 --> 02:32:44,320 Speaker 4: So you got to play the line of scrimmage a 3083 02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:47,080 Speaker 4: little bit more honest than they've been. But I like, 3084 02:32:47,280 --> 02:32:51,160 Speaker 4: I like overall the way excuse me, yeah, the way 3085 02:32:51,200 --> 02:32:55,160 Speaker 4: the the the Eagles are playing defense against the Rams. 3086 02:32:55,160 --> 02:32:57,240 Speaker 4: They're keeping Cup and Puka Nuku in front of them. 3087 02:32:57,240 --> 02:32:59,800 Speaker 4: I got confused. They're talking about the Eagles offense, but 3088 02:32:59,840 --> 02:33:04,360 Speaker 4: I like that. And then conversely, outside of the big plays, 3089 02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:07,120 Speaker 4: I just explained it though. I like what the Rams 3090 02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:10,000 Speaker 4: are doing. They just have to be more buttoned up. 3091 02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:12,480 Speaker 4: When Hurtz has the football in his hand and it's 3092 02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:16,120 Speaker 4: a playing qb run or Sakwan Barkley has an opportunity 3093 02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:18,520 Speaker 4: to break one tackle, because he'll break one tackle and. 3094 02:33:18,480 --> 02:33:19,959 Speaker 3: Make you pay all the way downfield. 3095 02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:22,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now in a three point game, do not 3096 02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:24,600 Speaker 1: take any unnecessary chances. 3097 02:33:24,959 --> 02:33:26,800 Speaker 3: Just don't do that. 3098 02:33:27,400 --> 02:33:29,760 Speaker 1: There's plenty of time as we just start the second half. 3099 02:33:29,800 --> 02:33:31,800 Speaker 1: So the Eagles get the ball back inside their own 3100 02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:35,360 Speaker 1: twenty yard line, and we're going to see very slow 3101 02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:38,959 Speaker 1: progressing offenses from this point on. I will continue on 3102 02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:42,000 Speaker 1: with our coverage of this Rams Eagles game and our 3103 02:33:42,080 --> 02:33:45,119 Speaker 1: predictions for the game coming up between the Ravens and Bills. 3104 02:33:45,160 --> 02:33:48,400 Speaker 1: This is Red Zone Radio all right, once again coming 3105 02:33:48,440 --> 02:33:51,320 Speaker 1: down the stretch here on our version of Red Zone 3106 02:33:51,440 --> 02:33:54,360 Speaker 1: Radio live from the tyrag doc on Studios. So the 3107 02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Rams interesting dynamic to open this second half they're just 3108 02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:01,280 Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field, and they had an 3109 02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:04,440 Speaker 1: incomplete pass to Pooka Akua, but just completed a big 3110 02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:06,280 Speaker 1: pass to Cooper cop Well. 3111 02:34:06,320 --> 02:34:10,439 Speaker 4: What they're doing is they're trying to exploit the obvious 3112 02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:14,400 Speaker 4: hole in the Eagles defense. With Kenny Mitchell out, all 3113 02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:17,120 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you have the defensive Rookie of the 3114 02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:19,960 Speaker 4: Year candidate that's helped anchor the back half of this 3115 02:34:20,080 --> 02:34:22,280 Speaker 4: defense off the field with a shoulder in. 3116 02:34:22,440 --> 02:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh Kyron Williams has just broken a big one. He's 3117 02:34:25,160 --> 02:34:29,240 Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line. Kyron Williams breaks one off 3118 02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:32,000 Speaker 1: for the Rams. They're inside the ten and so. 3119 02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:35,040 Speaker 4: And by the way, this was so well blocked up 3120 02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:38,520 Speaker 4: front by the Rams. You had bodies on bodies, Kyron 3121 02:34:38,560 --> 02:34:43,760 Speaker 4: Williams just following blockers as I mean, the Rams offensive line, 3122 02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:45,959 Speaker 4: their tight ends and even a couple of their receivers 3123 02:34:46,400 --> 02:34:49,640 Speaker 4: just had the Eagles on skis right there. This is 3124 02:34:49,720 --> 02:34:52,120 Speaker 4: what you should do. If you are going to pump 3125 02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:55,800 Speaker 4: one downfield, then get started on running the football right 3126 02:34:55,840 --> 02:34:58,400 Speaker 4: at the heart of the defense because it's going to 3127 02:34:58,480 --> 02:34:59,800 Speaker 4: loosen up the line of scrimmage. 3128 02:34:59,800 --> 02:35:02,480 Speaker 3: So I like the idea of it. 3129 02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:04,920 Speaker 2: Oh No, fumble by the Rams. 3130 02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:05,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 3131 02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:08,760 Speaker 1: Geez, So it was gonna be a great handoff that 3132 02:35:08,879 --> 02:35:12,520 Speaker 1: Kyron Williams and the ball never even got in his hands. Look, 3133 02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:15,760 Speaker 1: and he fumbled the ball for a big loss there. 3134 02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:20,039 Speaker 4: Wow, I'll tell you Karen Williams and Matthew Stafford, the 3135 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:22,920 Speaker 4: biggest problem there was at Wow, the. 3136 02:35:22,879 --> 02:35:24,199 Speaker 2: Ball slipped out of his hands. 3137 02:35:24,280 --> 02:35:27,600 Speaker 1: It looked like it slipped out of Stafford's hands as 3138 02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:29,879 Speaker 1: he was looking at it slipped out of his hand. 3139 02:35:30,040 --> 02:35:33,640 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. The biggest problem is right there. 3140 02:35:33,879 --> 02:35:36,840 Speaker 1: You see it just squirt it out of his hands 3141 02:35:36,879 --> 02:35:38,280 Speaker 1: before he actually made the handoff. 3142 02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:38,879 Speaker 3: You got it. 3143 02:35:38,959 --> 02:35:41,040 Speaker 4: You got to carry out the the You have to 3144 02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:44,640 Speaker 4: finish the handoff before you try to carry out the fake, right. 3145 02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:46,200 Speaker 4: You know, this is one of the things they say 3146 02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:48,119 Speaker 4: you can't do too much. You got to you gotta 3147 02:35:48,200 --> 02:35:50,039 Speaker 4: keep the main thing, the main thing. The main thing 3148 02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:51,720 Speaker 4: is handing that football. 3149 02:35:51,240 --> 02:35:52,200 Speaker 3: Off all right. 3150 02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:54,039 Speaker 1: By the way, you want to thank Monsi for all 3151 02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:58,640 Speaker 1: her help today, bo Chris unbelieable are supporting crew. As 3152 02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, is Apps the best. There's the reason the 3153 02:36:01,320 --> 02:36:02,760 Speaker 1: show is as good as it is. 3154 02:36:03,200 --> 02:36:04,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt. 3155 02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:08,400 Speaker 1: It ain't us, No, no, no, no, it's in spite of us, 3156 02:36:08,600 --> 02:36:10,720 Speaker 1: is how we like to say that. All right, third 3157 02:36:10,760 --> 02:36:12,560 Speaker 1: and goal for the Rams right now, But what an 3158 02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:15,680 Speaker 1: impressive opening drive for the Rams in the second half, 3159 02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:18,600 Speaker 1: trailing thirteen to ten. They've been able to get the 3160 02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:21,240 Speaker 1: ball down the field obviously and very much in field 3161 02:36:21,240 --> 02:36:24,160 Speaker 1: goal position. But right now a third and goal from 3162 02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:28,080 Speaker 1: their thirteen from the thirteen yard line, and you just 3163 02:36:28,120 --> 02:36:32,000 Speaker 1: don't want any kind of mistake here, Stafford rolling, he's 3164 02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:35,480 Speaker 1: trying to find an opening. He gets sacked, So that's 3165 02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:38,280 Speaker 1: better than trying to force a play. Take the three points, 3166 02:36:38,320 --> 02:36:41,800 Speaker 1: tie this game up. Of course, kicks in this weather 3167 02:36:41,879 --> 02:36:44,480 Speaker 1: are anything but a sure thing. First of all, you 3168 02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:47,280 Speaker 1: have to snap the ball, as you said, as a center, 3169 02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:50,640 Speaker 1: just gripping the ball can be a challenge under these conditions. 3170 02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:53,240 Speaker 1: And then the holder's got to have a clean hold, 3171 02:36:53,959 --> 02:36:56,160 Speaker 1: and then your plant foot's got a hold. 3172 02:36:56,600 --> 02:36:57,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot that goes. 3173 02:36:57,560 --> 02:37:01,160 Speaker 1: Into any kind of kickah under slippery conditions. 3174 02:37:01,480 --> 02:37:05,200 Speaker 4: You gotta credit your offense on two big plays, the 3175 02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:08,119 Speaker 4: pass the thirty yard ball to Cooper Cup and then 3176 02:37:08,200 --> 02:37:11,120 Speaker 4: Kyraen Williams, and really credit to the offensive line for 3177 02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:12,879 Speaker 4: getting bodies on bodies and. 3178 02:37:12,800 --> 02:37:14,440 Speaker 3: Getting you inside the twenty yard line. 3179 02:37:14,480 --> 02:37:16,640 Speaker 2: The kick is good, so we have a tie game. 3180 02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:17,720 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep. 3181 02:37:17,760 --> 02:37:19,960 Speaker 4: It sets yet for that, and in a game where 3182 02:37:19,959 --> 02:37:22,680 Speaker 4: all of a sudden points are going to be few 3183 02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:25,640 Speaker 4: and far between and hard to come up with, that's 3184 02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:26,879 Speaker 4: exactly what you hope for. 3185 02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:29,520 Speaker 1: All right. So yeah, it was a thirty yard pass 3186 02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:31,920 Speaker 1: play and then a thirty yard run. Those two plays 3187 02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:34,600 Speaker 1: where all the Rams needed to get into a field 3188 02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:36,959 Speaker 1: goal position. So we got seven thirty seven to go 3189 02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:40,280 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Eagles and Rams are tied, all right, 3190 02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:43,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the game coming up between the 3191 02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:47,240 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Bills again. The temperature will get into 3192 02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:51,480 Speaker 1: single digits as that game progresses. It is going to 3193 02:37:51,520 --> 02:37:54,320 Speaker 1: be cold. I mean, the difference from what we see 3194 02:37:54,320 --> 02:37:59,039 Speaker 1: in temperature wise in this game in Philadelphia, there's a 3195 02:37:59,040 --> 02:38:01,280 Speaker 1: big difference between thirty degrees and. 3196 02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:03,400 Speaker 3: Ten Oh my gosh, is there every I mean? 3197 02:38:03,440 --> 02:38:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and so ten degrees suddenly makes it a 3198 02:38:05,720 --> 02:38:07,959 Speaker 1: different game. How do you see this, rich, how do 3199 02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:09,920 Speaker 1: you see it breaking down? Give us a score? 3200 02:38:10,160 --> 02:38:10,360 Speaker 3: Well? 3201 02:38:10,400 --> 02:38:14,959 Speaker 4: So, so people will often say like, well, how cold 3202 02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:15,440 Speaker 4: is cold? 3203 02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean? 3204 02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:18,600 Speaker 4: How different is it playing in you know, twenty degree 3205 02:38:18,640 --> 02:38:22,320 Speaker 4: weather versus you know, ten degree weather. I always say this, 3206 02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:25,520 Speaker 4: I say, get in the hottest possible hot tub you 3207 02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:27,720 Speaker 4: could possibly get into. Right, I don't know what your 3208 02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:30,640 Speaker 4: temperature threshold is. Let's say it's one hundred and four degrees, 3209 02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:33,080 Speaker 4: one hundred five degrees, then crank it up to one 3210 02:38:33,160 --> 02:38:36,320 Speaker 4: hundred and seven, crank it up to crank it up 3211 02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:38,359 Speaker 4: to one hundred and twenty. Tell me if you're comfortable 3212 02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:42,680 Speaker 4: in that hot tub. I mean a harsh fever is 3213 02:38:43,080 --> 02:38:45,720 Speaker 4: one to oh three. Yeah, you know that's only five 3214 02:38:45,800 --> 02:38:48,280 Speaker 4: degrees hotter than your body temperature. 3215 02:38:47,840 --> 02:38:49,760 Speaker 3: Normally, is right? You know what I mean? 3216 02:38:49,800 --> 02:38:54,000 Speaker 4: Like like, we worry about degrees because every degree matters. 3217 02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:56,480 Speaker 3: So that's what I employ you. 3218 02:38:56,480 --> 02:39:00,000 Speaker 4: To realize how cold that is for three hours of exposure. 3219 02:39:00,040 --> 02:39:02,120 Speaker 4: And that's if the game doesn't go to overtime. To 3220 02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:04,600 Speaker 4: answer your question, though, Steve, how I see this one 3221 02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:08,320 Speaker 4: working out? I bounce back and forth, and I'm sure 3222 02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:13,119 Speaker 4: you have to. Buffalo's hosting Baltimore. I feel like Lamar 3223 02:39:13,480 --> 02:39:16,160 Speaker 4: is going to make that one or two mistakes that 3224 02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:20,119 Speaker 4: have been trademark in his postseason career, and we're going 3225 02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:23,320 Speaker 4: to watch him win his third straight MVP. But we're 3226 02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:25,879 Speaker 4: gonna say to ourselves, but he can't seem to keep 3227 02:39:25,879 --> 02:39:27,240 Speaker 4: it all together in the postseason. 3228 02:39:27,240 --> 02:39:28,400 Speaker 3: That's the way I see this going. 3229 02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:32,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo has not lost a home game this year, and 3230 02:39:32,600 --> 02:39:34,640 Speaker 1: they're a slight underdog in this game. 3231 02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:35,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 3232 02:39:35,480 --> 02:39:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, think about that. They're eight and zero at home, 3233 02:39:38,560 --> 02:39:41,080 Speaker 1: and yet they're like a one point dog at home. 3234 02:39:41,240 --> 02:39:42,120 Speaker 3: That's insulted, and. 3235 02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:44,800 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm sorry, why are they a one point 3236 02:39:44,879 --> 02:39:46,959 Speaker 1: dog at home when they have a loss at home 3237 02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:50,640 Speaker 1: the entire year? And I do think that earlier blowout 3238 02:39:50,680 --> 02:39:52,840 Speaker 1: loss at Baltimore is going to play into this, So 3239 02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:56,879 Speaker 1: I agree with you. In my picks against Monci, I 3240 02:39:56,959 --> 02:39:59,560 Speaker 1: actually have the Ravens, but that's because she picked the Bills, 3241 02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:03,000 Speaker 1: so I had to take the Ravens. But in my 3242 02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:06,800 Speaker 1: own pick right here, I'm just trying to get the 3243 02:40:06,840 --> 02:40:08,920 Speaker 1: visual who's walking off a winner and I see the 3244 02:40:08,920 --> 02:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and I think it's gonna be a touchdown game, 3245 02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:16,200 Speaker 1: low scoring, maybe seventeen ten, something along those lines, But 3246 02:40:16,320 --> 02:40:18,400 Speaker 1: I say the Bills as well, don't go anywhere. Much 3247 02:40:18,440 --> 02:40:21,080 Speaker 1: more coming up here on Fox Sports Radio