1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome. In his verdict was Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: with you, Senator, nice to have you with us. And 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of there's a big fight brewing 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: in Washington right now over mandates that deal with COVID 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine mandates. We're going to get into that in 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: a moment, but before we get to this, there's some 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: really big news with the Biden documents classified documents scandal. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: And you've talked about how you think that those one thousand, 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty boxes of material four hundred and 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: fifteen gigabytes of digital records that have been given to 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: the University Delaware should be searched by authorities. And then 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: there's something else that's come out of all this, and 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: this is, oh, by the way, in twenty fourteen, there's 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: a chance that Hunter Biden had information that was classified, 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: that he had access to that he may have been 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: able to exploit for business reasons to make more money. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Well, yes, and let me say 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the Joe Biden Hunter Biden scandal continues to get worse 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: and worse. This podcast made news when we called for 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: the one eight hundred and fifty plus boxes of Joe 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Biden's Senate documents at the University of Delaware to be 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: searched by the FBI. We subsequently made news when we 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: called for Hunter Biden's home and work addresses to be 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: searched by the FBI as well. And now we have 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: even more reason that searching Hunter Biden's home and work 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: is necessary. Which is one email in particular that Hunter 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Biden sent to his business partner, Devin Archer, And it 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: was on April thirteenth, twenty fourteen, so it was while 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: his father was Vice president, and it was a week 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: before Joe Biden was going to travel to Ukraine to 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: meet with the Prime Minister, and Hunter Biden sent a 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: very long, scholarly email with twenty two points of careful 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: analysis about Ukraine's political situation and about the upcoming election 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: and predicting an escalation of Russia's quote destabilization campaign which 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: could lead to a full scale takeover of the Eastern region, 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: most critically Donesque. The strategic value is to create a 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: land bridge for Russia to Crimea the way a breviate 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Russia RU that won't be directly affect boris hope barisaholdings, 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: but it will limit future UK exploration and utilization of 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: offshore opportunities. In particular, he continued, writing, it will also 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: result in further destabilization of UK nationally and for whatever 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: government is in power, and the US will respond with 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: even stronger sanctions. Those sanctions will threaten the tenuous support 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: of the EU, which does not have the political will 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: to incurse deep energy price increases. It's a twenty two 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: point substantive email. Now, Hunter Biden doesn't write twenty two 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: point substantive emails. Hunter Biden, as we know, as he 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: has an odd proclip doing videos himself with drugs with 49 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: prostitutes violating the law. This email reads as if it 50 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: was cut and pasted from an official government briefing, an 51 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: official government briefing that one would infer his father had received. 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: And it reads as if it could easily have come 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: from a classified briefing. We don't know that, but the 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: level of geopolitical and geostrategic analysis is the sort of 55 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: analysis that is often in classified briefings. And the timing 56 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: of this email so this is twenty fourteen, this is 57 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: right before Barisma put Hunter Biden on their board. Now 58 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: We've talked at length in this podcast about how Hunter 59 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: Biden didn't speak Ukrainian, didn't know anything about oil and gas, 60 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: had no reason to think he was an expert in 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Ukraine or geopolitics, and yet when he sends this very 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: detailed email, it certainly seems like he's advertising, Hey, you 63 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: pay me eighty three thousand dollars a month, which they did, 64 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: and you get access to this kind of briefing too, 65 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the briefing presumably being given to the Vice president. I 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: think there needs to be serious examination as to where 67 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden got that information, and in particular, did it 68 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: come from a briefing his father was given, and critically, 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: was it from a classified briefing. On the face of it, 70 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: there's an awful lot of smoke, and if this special 71 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: prosecutor at the Department of Justice is taking it seriously, 72 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: those are the questions he needs to be asking. It's 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: an issue of proof for many people when you give 74 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: emails like this, an information like okay, prove it to me, right, 75 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: prove it to me that you have access to what 76 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: you claim you have access to. We've seen this when 77 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: it comes to even our sources overseas, where it's like, 78 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, they claim they have access to X, Y 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: or Z or to this terror group and they have 80 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: inside knowledge, and you basically say, okay, show me something 81 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: that can verify that you're not just full of it. 82 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: And that's what this email certainly would have done. It's 83 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: not just impressing them, but showing you, hey, I can 84 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: give you stuff that no one else can. And look, 85 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: there is no reason, there's nothing in Hunter Biden's background 86 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: to suggest that he has the geopolitical expertise to write 87 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: an email like this unless he's cribbing on what Daddy has. 88 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: And it's one thing. If he's getting a briefing from 89 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: his father or his father's team, that's not impermissible. It's 90 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden selling access. But you know, to be honest, 91 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: the Biden family has been selling access for decades. That's 92 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: been the family business. It is qualitatively different if the 93 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: access includes access to classified materials for which Hunter Biden 94 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: does not have security clearances, and we don't know, but 95 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: on the face of it, I think the odds are 96 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: incredibly high north of ninety that Hunter Biden was reading 97 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: and may well have cut and paste from an official 98 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: briefing his father received, and the outstanding question was did 99 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: that briefing include classified materials? Are not? Ordinarily the vice 100 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: president getting ready to travel to a foreign country would 101 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: get a classified briefing, so typically the vice president's briefing 102 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: would have classified information. I think there needs to be 103 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: a careful examination of what was the source of this, 104 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: including quite literally searching. The special counsel should search the 105 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: classified briefings given the Vice president in that period of time, 106 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: in the period preceding that trip, and compare the language. 107 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: And I'm going to posit a guess that there is 108 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: language that is word for word on Hunter Biden's email. 109 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that, but it sured unread like something 110 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden wrote, and that is worthy of a serious investigation. 111 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: But if Joe Biden did in fact allow his son 112 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: access to classified materials, then they both would have committed 113 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: a federal crime. I have to ask the question about 114 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: classified documents and how long do they keep classified documents around, 115 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: because I know there's people they're gonna be saying, well, 116 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: let me guess they're gonna say, we can't find these anymore. 117 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: And before I get you to answer that question about 118 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: how that the storage of classified documents work, I want 119 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: to tell you about our friends at Patriot Mobile. If 120 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: you have not checked out Patriot Mobile, they are an 121 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: amazing company, a conservative Christian cell phone coming. 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All right, center, The question I know 136 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: everybody's going to be thinking themselves is, all right, let's 137 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: say we ask for these classified documents from this time period. 138 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: What do you know they're not gonna be able to 139 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: find them, or they're gonna say they're destroyed or they're 140 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: gonna have an excuse to call this paranoid. But a 141 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: lot of people expect that's how the government works. Now, 142 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: every time you need to see something, you can't find it. 143 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: So how does it work with classified documents? How long 144 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: do they keep them before there's no more, no longer 145 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: a record of them. Is there a chance these documents 146 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: are are saved somewhere and still exists. Well, it so happens. 147 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: There's a federal statue that answers that question, and it 148 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: is the Presidential Records Act, which requires, as a matter 149 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: of federal law, that all of the president's records and 150 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: all of the vice president's records, including any classified documents, 151 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: must be turned over to the Archives by the end 152 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: of their terms. So, assuming that the Vice president's office 153 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: complied with that federal law, the Archives should have every 154 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: classified briefing Joe Biden received, and so that those records. 155 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: You would need obviously clearance to read them. But I 156 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: think the special counsel needs to read those briefings and 157 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: compare them to Hunter Biden's email to see if the 158 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: language is identical or substantially similar, because there's a very 159 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: strong inference from the face of it that that that 160 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: they are last question on this There does still seem 161 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: to be to many of us a disconnect that between 162 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: the prosecution in Delaware, the prosecutor Delaware with the Hunter 163 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Biden and some of the tax issues and everything he's 164 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: looking into, and now what's happened with a special prosecutor 165 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: that is looking into these classified documents they keep finding 166 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: of the president, the former vice president Joe Biden. When 167 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: you start looking at these connections here, the way that 168 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: you're describing them is, how are these two individuals not 169 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: going to interconnect at some point and say here, I 170 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: have something you need to see or you have something 171 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: I need to see. Well, you know, when you play poker, 172 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: sometimes people have what's called a tell, and they do 173 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: something that illustrates whether they have a good, good hand 174 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: or a bad hand. Maybe they twist their ring, maybe 175 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: their eye twitches that they have something that gives away 176 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: their hand. The tell from this Department of Justice as 177 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: to whether it is trying to be political and protect 178 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Democrats on these issues is very simple. 179 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: If they are trying to keep Hunter Biden and Joe 180 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: Biden all together separate, they are engaged in politics not law. 181 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: If they're trying to say they're totally different, they're totally separate. 182 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: If they want the Hunter Biden investigation to be about, well, 183 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: did the guy who drugs? Did he violate the tax laws? 184 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Did he do things that affect a poor, troubled guy 185 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: with a serious substance abuse issue. Anyone focusing on that 186 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: is doing it for a reason, and that is to 187 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: insulate the big guy, to insulate Joe Biden. Look, my 188 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: interest in Hunter Biden is not his personal demons. The 189 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: reason this is an issue of public concern is the 190 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: extent to which Hunter Biden implicates his father, Joe Biden, 191 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: the president and then the vice president, in official corruption. 192 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: And so it is the connection between the two. When 193 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: they're examining Hunter Biden, they need to be examining what 194 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: was it that Hunter Biden sold to Barisma for a 195 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: million bucks a year? What was it that Hunter Biden 196 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: sold to the Chinese communist for millions of dollars a year? 197 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: And when they're examining Joe Biden. Now, to be clear, 198 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: the Special Counsel's mandate is to focus on the classified 199 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: documents in Joe Biden's home. The Special Council can put 200 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: blinders on and say, well, we're just looking at these documents. 201 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: We're not asking who might have contacted them. We're not 202 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: asking who might have examined them illegally. We're not asking 203 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: if Hunter Biden, who has a long pattern of corruption 204 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: with selling access to these documents, if the special counsel 205 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: from the other side of the issue puts blinders on 206 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: and refuses to examine the connections to Hunter Biden, that 207 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: would raise the very strong implication that the special counsel 208 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: is trying to politically protect the White House. What is 209 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: a matter of public concern is the intersection between the 210 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: two that, on the face of it screams corruption. Yeah, 211 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: it certainly does. And this is gonna It's gonna see 212 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: how long they can keep these two at bay and 213 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: how long they can try to disconnect them. But it 214 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: looks like even the White Houses have a hard time 215 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: controlling this story now at all. I want to move 216 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: to something by the way, before we move to this topic, 217 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: I will say I feel kind of bad that this 218 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: podcast may have played a role in getting Karine Jean 219 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: Pierre yanked from the podium. You saw that her answers 220 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: were so bleedingly bad as we've talked about on previous pods, 221 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: that they ended up putting John Kirby up there because 222 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: there are only so many times she could say, good morning, 223 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: what time of day it is? Talk to the White 224 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: House counsel, you know what? What what color is the sky? 225 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Talk to the White House Council. They finally got John Kirby, 226 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: who could at least answer a simple and straightforward question. 227 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: I you know if this podcast played a role in that, well, 228 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I think it definitely did. When they start quoting you 229 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: and the show, you know it's a good day. You 230 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: know it's a good day, and you know it's a 231 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: bad day for that White House. There's another big fight 232 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: center that's happening, and it's an important fight in Washington, DC, 233 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of people may not realize this is 234 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: even happening because it's not being covered, in my opinion, 235 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: the way that it should. And this comes down to 236 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: the No Vaccine Passport Act. There are multiple aspects of 237 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: this that I want to go through because part of 238 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: its No Vaccine Passport Act. Among its many provisions, the 239 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: No Vaccine Passport Act would stop the federal government from 240 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: establishing COVID nineteen passports or working with third parties to 241 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: establish their own vaccine passports. This is a really important 242 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: fight that's happening, and there's several different aspects of it. 243 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: It's also No Vaccine Mandates Act, the No Mass Mandate Act. 244 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: This is not just one thing. It's several different big 245 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: fights happening. Well, let's let's start out at a broader level, 246 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: at a meta level, and then we'll get down to 247 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: the specifics. The broader level, the question for the federal 248 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: government is COVID over or not now? Joe Biden famously 249 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: walking along in an interview, said the pandemic is over. 250 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: And the political voices in the White House that want 251 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: to portray sunny optimism and look at the great job 252 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Democrats are doing, want to say, Okay, we've cured COVID, 253 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: we solve the pandemic now. That happens to be largely accurate. 254 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: I think the pandemic is over. Doesn't mean that people, 255 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: particularly very elderly and very vulnerable people, can't get sick 256 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: and dangerously sick from COVID. But we are not in 257 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the midst of the pandemic anymore, and most of us 258 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: have moved on with our damn life and that's I 259 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: think the vast majority of America. I will say, by 260 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: the way, when you go to an airport, this is 261 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: an aside, isn't it fascinating? I think it's now about 262 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: ten percent of the people who still persist in wearing 263 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: a mask, And it's almost like self identifying, And I 264 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: really do. I walk through an airport and I look 265 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: at them, and I'm like, Okay, you're crazy people. Now look, 266 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: maybe you're someone who's severely immunocompromise, or there's some reason 267 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you might have a personal health reason that you need 268 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: to do so, and I certainly respect that, but I 269 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: just look around at what appeared to be young, healthy 270 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: people that are masked, or parents that put little kids 271 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: in mask, and You're just like, is it a spirit 272 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: of fear? Is it a spirit of ideology? Is it? 273 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Are you just so woke that you've got a virtue signal? 274 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: But it is a fascinating self identification, and the numbers 275 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: are dwindling. It's only the hardcore that keep with it. 276 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: But the meta issue for the federal government is is 277 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: the pandemic over or not? And the reason it matters 278 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: is Democrats and Biden in particular wants to cling to 279 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: all the power the pandemic gave. The pandemic was an 280 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: excuse for a massive expansion in the size of the 281 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: federal government and government spending, in government debt, and in 282 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: the power of the federal government. We saw abuses. We 283 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: saw abuses at every level of government, but especially the 284 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: federal government. And I got to tell you, I have 285 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: been now for over two years leading the fight in 286 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: the Senate against these abuses, and so I've introduced legislation 287 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: after legislation after legislation to stop these abuses. So as 288 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: you noted, I have one bill to ban vaccine passports 289 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: to say you cannot require vaccine passports of any individual 290 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: dealing with a government. I have another bill that bans 291 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates, that says you cannot require a COVID vaccine. 292 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: You can't require it in the military, you can't require 293 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: it in the federal government. You can't require it a 294 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: DOJ or the FBI or the Border Patrol. You can't 295 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: require it in a private business. I have another bill 296 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: that ends mask mandates to say you can't force mask 297 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: mandates on people. I have another bill that ends discriminate 298 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: nation in COVID treatments. I have another bill that ends 299 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: the DC school vaccine mandate, where they are claiming they're 300 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: going to throw forty percent of the school kids, forty 301 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: percent of the African American kids out of the DC 302 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: public schools. All of these are bills that I am 303 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: fighting actively right now in the federal government. We just 304 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: want a big victory on military vaccines, where for two 305 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: years I've been fighting to end Biden's vaccine mandate in 306 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: the military. Last month we succeeded. We passed it into law. 307 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: We had to kick drag Joe Biden, kicking and screaming 308 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: to sign that in the law. But it is only prospective. 309 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: The Democrats price was that it is only applicable going forward. 310 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't provide relief for the thousands of servicemen and 311 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: women who were terminated because they decline to get the 312 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine. I've introduced legislation called the Americans Act to 313 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: give them relief, to reinstate them in the military they 314 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: want to go back at their original rank, to give 315 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: them the benefits their due, and if they choose not 316 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: to go back into the military, to ensure that they 317 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: have an honorable discharge and not merely a general discharge 318 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: so that they receive the benefits they've earned by fighting 319 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: for a country. Our Democrats still digging in on that. 320 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I know that, and so they're just not wavering. In 321 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: other words, are saying, forget taking care of these people. 322 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: They didn't bow to our demand with the vaccine mandate. 323 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: They don't deserve to have health coverage, no matter how 324 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: long they were serving their country. If we get rid 325 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: of them this way, that there is no movement from them, 326 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: no remorse, no compromise, no spirit of compromise, or forget that. 327 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: Let's just bring it down to spirit of humanity, spirit 328 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: of compassion for many men and women the military that 329 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: have lost their health benefits that were desperately needed for 330 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: chronic conditions for them and their children. Well, look, I'm 331 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: not going to speak to the hearts of Democrats Senators. 332 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I will speak to their votes. Their votes are consistently 333 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: against the servicemen and women who were unjustly terminated. We 334 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: don't even know the numbers. The Biden administration won't answered. 335 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: I've repeatedly tried to get answers. We know it's in 336 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: the thousands, it may well be an excess of ten thousand, 337 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: but they won't answer the question, and I will commit, 338 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: and I have committed unequivocally that I am going to 339 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: keep fighting for every soldier, every sailor, every airman, every marine, 340 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: every Coast guardsman who was wrongfully terminated, who was wrongfully demoted, 341 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to keep fighting for them until they 342 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: get justice. What they did is wrong. And I'll tell you, Ben, 343 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I've when you talk with Navy seals as 344 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I have, when you look in their eyes and they're angry. Look, 345 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: I'm not remotely bad enough to be badass enough to 346 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: be a Davy Seal. I couldn't survive buds. I'd drown 347 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: in the seashore. I respect what those guys do. They're 348 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: American heroes and they go in harm's way without blinking. 349 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: And for these partisan hacks to just throw their service 350 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: in the waistbin not care about it at all. Say 351 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: you're terminated, you're out of luck, it doesn't matter. And 352 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: mind you, we've got a shortage of new recruits. It's 353 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: hurting military readiness at the same time. But what I 354 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: believe is happening is I think the Biden administration is 355 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: using vaccine mandates politically to purge the federal government of 356 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: conservatives and of troublesome people. I think they're doing it 357 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: in the military. I think they're doing it at DOJ. 358 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I think they're doing it the FBI. I think they're 359 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: doing it at the border patrol. Throughout the federal government. 360 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: They view it. It's actually the merry image. I talked 361 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: before about how in airports wacky lefties self identified by 362 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: wearing their pink masks walking down the aisle. Yeah, well, 363 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: it's the flip side, which is in the federal government. 364 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: A lot of conservatives self identify by saying, I ain't 365 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: getting this vaccine and you're not going to make me. 366 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: And I think the Biden Dems are thrilled and saying, okay, good, 367 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: you're fired. We're gonna purge you out of the federal government. 368 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: I think it is a shamelessly political objective, and whether 369 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: any Democrat feels something in their heart for them, they 370 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: certainly are not willing to vote for them. But I 371 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: think we can still get more done the way we 372 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: repealed the COVID vaccine mandate in the military, which is 373 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: using leverage on must pass legislation, and so I'm going 374 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: to keep pressing to do that and mind you, the 375 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: Biden administration is utterly schizophrenic on this. They want to 376 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: have it both ways. So they on the one hand, 377 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden trumpets the pandemic is over, yea, we solved it. 378 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: On the other hand, the Biden administration is actively appealing 379 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: in the Federal Court of Appeal to have the authority 380 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: to reinstate the mask mandate on planes, while at the 381 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: same time they are trying to end the use of 382 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Title forty two. And they say COVID exists everywhere on 383 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Earth except our southern border. And we have last month, 384 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: we had over two hundred and fifty thousand encounters with 385 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants in December. It is the worst month at 386 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: the border in the history of our country. Let me 387 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: repeat that, December of twenty twenty two was the highest 388 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: level of illegal immigration ever recorded in the history of 389 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: the United States of America, over two hundred and fifty 390 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: thousand illegal encounters. And it's the tenth consecutive month with 391 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: encounters over two hundred thousand. And yet the Biden administration 392 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: is saying COVID doesn't exist at the border, just in 393 00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: every kindergarten, in every hospital, in the federal government, everywhere 394 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: they want to have their tentacles of power, except when 395 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: it comes to securing the border. Yeah it is. I 396 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: want to ask you quickly about my orchism. Before we 397 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: get to that, I want to tell you real quick 398 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: about our friends at August of Precious Metals. 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Senator. 421 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: There were a lot of people that believe that there's 422 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: a good chance that he could be investigated, even impeached, 423 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: because of him knowing what was happening at the border 424 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: the entire time and misleading the country about it, claiming 425 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: that the border is secure when he knew it wasn't secure. 426 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: And that's really just the tip of the iceberg. Is 427 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: there going to be any movement you think early in 428 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: this year on that, at least on the House side. 429 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: I believe the answer is yes. I believe the House 430 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: of Representatives will impeach Alejandro may Orcus. I think they 431 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: will do it this year, likely in the first half 432 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: of the year. I will be shocked if they don't 433 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: go forward it is I think it's extremely likely, and 434 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I think it is important. We have never had a 435 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: Cabinet secretary so utterly refused to do his job and 436 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: in fact instruct his employees to actively defy federal law. 437 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: To frustrate federal law. Federal immigration law requires that people 438 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: here illegally be removed be deported. Instead, what majorcas has 439 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: done is directed Homeland Security to facilitate an expedite people 440 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: breaking the law that he wants the turnstile to move 441 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: more quickly. His entire objective is to have even more 442 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: people come here illegally. It's not to stop them, it's 443 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: not to deport them, it's not to secure the border. 444 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: He wants to make it even more efficient that when 445 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: you cross illegally, Joe Biden's travel agent will take you 446 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: wherever you want to go and set you up. It is. 447 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: There has never been a cabinet officer devote his entire 448 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: time to number one, abdicating his entire statutory responsibility. But 449 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: number two even worse. If he simply abdicated and didn't 450 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: do his job, that would be terrible. But he's doing 451 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: even worse. He is directing everyone in his control to 452 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: actively facilitate law breaking. And I believe the House will 453 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: impeach him, and then in the Senate, Chuck Schumer will 454 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: do everything he can to sweep it under the rug 455 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: and have nobody pay attention. But we need to focus 456 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: the American people on the tragedy that is unfolding every 457 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: day on the southern border, that the media ignores and 458 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: that the Democrats have caused. Finally, you talked about this 459 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: on the last episode, and it was a pretty funny 460 00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: conversation from my perspective, saying you and we showed the 461 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: old tweet you predicted and if you missed this, guys, 462 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: go back and listen to the last episode of Verdict. 463 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: You predicted that there was going to be hell to 464 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: pay for kicking Republicans off committees when Nancy Pelosi allowed 465 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: that to happen, saying, if you're going to do it, 466 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: two Republicans is probably gonna be done right back to you. Now, 467 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: the media is trying to say do everything they can 468 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: to save people and act like there somehow a victim 469 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: of the exact same thing that they were doing to Republicans. 470 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell and I guess this is like rehab one 471 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: oh one, I'm talking about rehab on TV, trying to 472 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: rehabilitate him as some great congressman. He was on Stay 473 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: the Union. Dana Bash set him up with this question, 474 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and I just laughed. And I want to get your 475 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: reaction to it. Congressman, you were also removed by Republicans 476 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: from the Intelligence Committee. What the speaker said about you 477 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: is that beginning in twenty twelve, a suspected Chinese spy 478 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: developed ties to you and to your office, even put 479 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: an intern there, raised campaign funds for you. You say 480 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: very clearly you cut off ties with this person back 481 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen when you found out you cooperated with 482 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: the FBI. But the bottom line question is this, did 483 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: you put yourself in a vulnerable position in any way 484 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: so that this alleged Chinese spy could have benefited or 485 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: even learn American secrets? Absolutely not, But Dana, don't take 486 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: my word for it, take the FBI's word for it. 487 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: They never talk about ongoing investigations. And former chairman Chef 488 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: knows this as a member of the Gang of Eight. 489 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Three different times they came out and said two things. 490 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: All I did was help them, and also I was 491 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: never under any suspicion of wrongcoming. So I gotta say, Ben, 492 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: I can't even keep a straight face, center like, It's 493 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: just like I watched this and I was like, you've 494 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. They're all sitting there like 495 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: this is a serious like bye, all right. So you 496 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: and I both know Dana bash Well. You worked for 497 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: years at CNN. You've been in the belly of the beast. 498 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: I have done many an interview with Dan. I actually 499 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: like her personally. She's she's less of a whack job 500 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: lefty than many of the people at CNN. That being said, 501 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: that question is one of the funniest things I've ever 502 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: heard in my life. I actually wrote down a couple 503 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: of the phrases she used. They threw you off the 504 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: Intel Committee because they alleged you quote developed ties to 505 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: an alleged Chinese spy. And then she goes on to say, 506 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: but then you cut off ties to the alleged Chinese spy. 507 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: And then she said, did you put yourself in a 508 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: vulnerable position? Now, all of those are really side splitting 509 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: euphemisms for you were sleeping with a Chinese spy, you 510 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: weren't developing ties. She's not asking if he was into 511 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: S and M and if he tied her up or not. 512 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: But the phrase she doesn't want to say, were you 513 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: having a sexual affair with a Chinese spy while she 514 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: was working for the Communist government of China. Instead, CNN 515 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: is suddenly very sensitive. No, there is no sex on CNN. 516 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: It's just developed ties. It's just cut off ties. Did 517 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: you put yourself in a vulnerable position? Yeah, you know what, 518 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: going to bed with a Chinese spy is not developing ties. 519 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, that Chinese spy in addition to 520 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: having sex with Eric Swalwell, and I will say, boy, 521 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: talk about a Chinese spy willing to do anything for 522 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: the Communist government. I mean that is a commitment. Yeah. Look, 523 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: thank fag. I may not like who she works for, 524 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: but but I do have to commend her that that 525 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: that that she's willing to take a bullet. Yeah, that's 526 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: that's tenure on a whole new level when she got home. 527 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: But but did you ever know CNN to be so 528 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: fragile and sensitive to to know never spin for the politician? 529 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: Can you imagine, all right, just just just engage in 530 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: a thought experiment. Imagine if everything were the same, but 531 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: instead of Eric Swallwell, it was Donald Trump. Remember the 532 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: whole stormy Daniel states CNN twenty four to seven. And 533 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: then they even said the lawyer that they yeah, you 534 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: should be president. They said that on TV he was 535 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: a serious contender for the White House because of quote, 536 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: his presence on cable news. He was on the view, 537 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: he was on every channel talking about Stormy Daniels, a 538 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: porn star, Donald Trump and all of that. They ran 539 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: at wall to wall prime time. But now they're going 540 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: to be pc about how they talk about an actual 541 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Chinese spy actually sleeping I mean literally sleeping with the enemy. 542 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: This is the definition of sleeping with the enemy. Can 543 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: you imagine CNN interviewing Donald Trump about Stormy Daniels and 544 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: just saying, well, the allegation is you developed ties with 545 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: an alleged movie actress. I mean, that's the equivalent of this, 546 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: and then you cut off ties. I don't remember their 547 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: squeamish yes, nish, And it's very simple CNN views its 548 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: job in that interview is we are the public relations 549 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: firm for the Democrats. And so, as you mentioned, it 550 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: was a rehabilitation tour. But it is so screamingly funny 551 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: because they're bad at it. They're not subtle, they're naked, 552 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: and you know they might as well just where I 553 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: think CNN should issue blue t shirts to all of 554 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: their reporters that just have DNC and a picture of 555 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: a giant donkey on it, because like Nascart, you're sponsored 556 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: by exactly. Yeah, it would actually be brilliant. I love it, Sentator. 557 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Don't forget if you're listening to this podcast, 558 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: we do two others during the week as well. 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