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Speaker 2: the official trading cards of this program. The NFL off

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Speaker 2: season was filled with a lot of questions around the

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Speaker 2: running back position, and rightfully so. There was this crusade

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Speaker 2: campaign they need to get paid, they need to have

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Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts. Well after week two of the regular season,

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Speaker 2: there's a cause for a concern that the running back

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Speaker 2: position is exactly what we thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, he fought tooth and nail to get that

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Speaker 2: one year, ten million dollar contract. He's played well, injured

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Speaker 2: his ankle, probably going to be out for three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs similar position. He wanted to get paid, got paid.

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Speaker 2: He had negative two yards rushing this last weekend, and

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Speaker 2: then last night Nick Chubb carted off the field after

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Speaker 2: that scary knee injury. Meanwhile, you have a career long

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Speaker 2: backup in Raheem Mostert. He had over one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty yards and two touchdowns for the Dolphins on Sunday

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Speaker 2: against the Patriots, and Mostert is paid one point two

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Speaker 2: million dollars this season. So while the running back position

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Speaker 2: may seem appealing, this season's results are certainly a cautionary

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Speaker 2: tale for the NFL's front office. And you hate to

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Speaker 2: see that with any position, but these running backs, the

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Speaker 2: better they are, the more likely they're not going to

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Speaker 2: get paid, because the logic is, well, you rush for

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yards, that's a lot of abuse on your body.

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Speaker 2: We don't do that with any other position, but we

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Speaker 2: do that with the running back position. Since coming into

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Speaker 2: the league in twenty eighteen, Nick Chubb has rushed for

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Speaker 2: sixty five hundred yards, second most to Derrick Henry forty

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Speaker 2: eight touchdowns, second most to Derrick Henry. Chubb averages two

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Speaker 2: point seven yards per carry after con contact, the most

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. And no, no, it's okay, you can wasn't

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Speaker 2: done with the style of the day, But that's okay.

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Speaker 3: Style of to day, steat of to day.

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Speaker 4: Scout of to day.

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Speaker 1: This is the start of the day.

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Speaker 2: Stat of the Day, brought to you by Panadi America,

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Speaker 2: the official trading cards of this program. But Nick Chubb

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Speaker 2: is going to be done. We don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: season ending injury he's had, you know, surgically repaired knee

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Speaker 2: that he injured again last night in the loss by

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns to the Steelers. Also the Saints over

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Speaker 2: the Panthers. That was a tough watch. I was trying

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Speaker 2: I go, I don't know if Derek Carr is good.

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Speaker 2: I think he can be good, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he can be consistently good. And I'm watching. I'm

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Speaker 2: just waiting for something to happen.

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Speaker 1: Here. Bryce Young, he's.

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Speaker 2: A rookie, he looked like it, and he's going to

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Speaker 2: I've said about these quarterbacks. Where you get drafted can

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Speaker 2: The higher up, the longer it's going to take its

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Speaker 2: Sometimes when you fall in the draft. Now you look

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Speaker 2: that's not good. Justin Fields is on a team that's

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Speaker 2: is going to face that this year. Here's his head coach,

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Speaker 2: Frank Wright, talking about his rookie quarterbacks performance.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you this. It's certainly you know our

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Speaker 5: struggle on offense. It's not one person. Again, we'll look

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Speaker 5: at the film, but you know, I thought Bryce still

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Speaker 5: did some really positive things. Made made some plays with

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Speaker 5: plenty of things that we want to see. So it

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Speaker 5: was encouraged by that. I know how hard it is

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Speaker 5: we all got to get better. Everybody's got better coaches

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Speaker 5: and players. So that's the way we work through it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's going to be a long year

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Speaker 2: to be patient, and you know your expectation level has

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Speaker 2: he runs smart, uh you know, go out of bounds,

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Speaker 2: his slide and he's slight. He is very slight, but

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Speaker 2: you know, got a great football acumen and maybe they

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Speaker 2: get some weapons in there. I mean, they gave up

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Speaker 2: Young back to the Cleveland Browns. With the injury to

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Speaker 6: Network that it has suffered multiple.

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Speaker 5: Torn ligaments in I can't without imaging, I can't say

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Speaker 2: I Adam Schefter put out a report, but it was

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Speaker 2: it should have been flipped because when he first put

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Speaker 2: had had this knee surgically repaired. I think a c

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Speaker 2: and you know it should have been just you know,

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Speaker 2: suffered these injuries to that same knee, but it was

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Speaker 2: not it was poorly designed. That tweet Deshaun Watson didn't

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Speaker 7: I know he don't have a seat on his on

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Speaker 7: his jersey, but you know, he's a captain, he's a

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Speaker 7: he's a leader, he's the definition of this of this team,

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Speaker 7: of this city, of this organization. And you know, we

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Speaker 7: had a lot of holes of Phil you know why

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Speaker 7: he's why he's away. So I mean it's even tough

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Speaker 2: Now, there was a pick six that's not on Watson

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Speaker 2: hard the opening play, but a couple of penalties on him,

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Speaker 2: the one where he had his hand and in the

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Speaker 2: face mask of a Steeler defender almost looked like his

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Speaker 2: hand was caught in there and he couldn't get it out.

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Speaker 2: The officials saw it and flagged him. But it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a good performance. He got a Hall passed last year

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Speaker 2: with Cleveland because we thought, okay, everything that's gone on

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Speaker 2: so I think that the analyst sort of backed away

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Speaker 2: from him. Now let's see him have a full camp,

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Speaker 2: maybe move on from all the drama. And he has

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Speaker 2: not had a good start, so you know, you're no

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Speaker 2: longer on scholarship from the standpoint of, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: let's give him a little bit of time. He was

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Speaker 2: a really good quarterback with the Texans. He was a

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Speaker 2: really good quarterback for a bad team and they had

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Speaker 2: to guarantee all of his money because he didn't want

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Speaker 2: And now you're stuck with him. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it was me, he didn't feel he just seemed

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Speaker 2: very hesitant. You know, he didn't really commit to running.

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Speaker 2: And I don't remember being him being a great runner,

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Speaker 2: not not the way quarterbacks are now great runners, but

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Speaker 2: he's not elusive, and he just seemed like cautious. And

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Speaker 2: now without Nick Chubb, now they're going to rely on

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Speaker 2: you even more. And you saw that last night. Not

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Speaker 2: a good performance. Can he Pickett? He's he's he has

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Speaker 2: has moments, but at that position, you can't just have movements.

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Speaker 2: You have to have more moments that are really good

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Speaker 2: than those moments where you go, oh my god, what happened? There?

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Speaker 1: Not great numbers.

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Speaker 2: The Steeler defense bailed him out, but he's got weapons.

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Speaker 1: There, so and I do like the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I'm high on the Steelers, not as much on the

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Speaker 2: Browns and the Bengals. With the Joe Burrows situation, they're

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Speaker 2: probably going to have to rest him for a couple

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is going to be playing because you have

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Speaker 2: to look at this.

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Speaker 1: This is long term, this is bigger picture.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to have an achilles injury here, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but this is where it starts with some athletes the

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Speaker 2: calf and then it becomes the achilles. So let's a

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Speaker 2: preemptive strike with this. Sit him down for a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks and hopefully he responds to treatment and then

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Speaker 2: you get him back. But you just there's no need

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Speaker 2: to have him out there on one leg, giving us

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Speaker 2: the old football try because you have too much invested

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Speaker 2: in him. So watching last night, certainly the chub injury

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Speaker 2: who's one of my favorite players. He just fifteen hundred yards,

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Speaker 2: doesn't say much, not a self promoter at all, just

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Speaker 2: plays good football. I mean, Sony Michelle was thought to

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Speaker 2: be a better running back coming out of college. Nick

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Speaker 2: Chubb is just like, all right, yeah, he's pretty good. No,

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Speaker 2: he's really good. No, he's as good as any running

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Speaker 2: back in football. And that's a huge loss for the Browns. Now,

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Speaker 2: he got a second contract, and I don't know. Is

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Speaker 2: he two years into that second contract?

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Speaker 8: PAULI, Yeah, he signed because remembery, he did get second

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Speaker 8: round money, not a ton of money coming out of college.

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Speaker 8: He signed a three year, thirty six million dollar deal

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Speaker 8: a couple of years ago, twelve million signing bonus, twenty

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Speaker 8: million guaranteed. So let's say this injury is really really serious,

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Speaker 8: he would say he couldn't continue for some reason. He's

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Speaker 8: going to make thirty four million dollars in his career,

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Speaker 8: including this year's salary, which is completely guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a competitive division. You know.

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Speaker 2: I do like the Ravens a lot. I think the

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Speaker 2: Ravens are a Super Bowl contender, and you know, let's

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Speaker 2: see what the Bengals are able to do.

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Speaker 1: Now zero to two.

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Speaker 2: Would they have run that story on Dion if Colorado

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's convenient because I drink a lot during the holiday.

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Speaker 2: This is just screaming out. Put a little of this moonshine,

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Speaker 9: Well, we could go with dueling Monday night football gam

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Speaker 2: Well, the game, you know, Carolina against New Orleans wasn't

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Speaker 1: That didn't help.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of those Oh by the ways, I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, for years, ESPN always got a bad Monday night

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Speaker 2: I just think having two and neither one of them

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Speaker 8: I would stagger them out a little more. Maybe make

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Speaker 8: more West coast, like a seven thirty start, nine thirty start.

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Speaker 3: Distance it a little more.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Ton, I don't love it.

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Speaker 6: I think one game Sunday night, one game Monday night's

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Speaker 6: one game I don't need.

435
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Speaker 1: So if I just said you had the Panthers in

436
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: the Saints, it is fine.

437
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't love it, but I would be okay with

438
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Speaker 6: that I don't want to have multiple games. I have

439
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 6: that all day Sunday, and then I just want to

440
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 6: kind of heez into the West couple.

441
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: Of what a burden you have to flip around? I

442
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: want to do. The red zone.

443
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: Takes away the excitement of Monday night football. Monday night football.

444
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 2: No, no, Monday night football is long gone. That's long gone.

445
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry your childhood, that's a long gone.

446
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

447
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 9: See, I feel like if if there was only one game,

448
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 9: the one game wouldn't have been Panther Saints. That would

449
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 9: have been at one o'clock. There would have been a

450
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 9: better matchup. It would have been like forty nine ers

451
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 9: Rams or something.

452
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Now I don't think so. Not in accordance to what

453
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: I've been told. ESPN used to have a lot of

454
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: these Monday night games that weren't, you know, big matchups.

455
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: It's true they had matchups a history of.

456
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, if you said this was Sunday night football,

457
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: then I would say, no, that's not normal.

458
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have Carolina against the Saints.

459
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: But ESPN has had a history of having these kind

460
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: of games to get and screwed yes for all that money,

461
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 2: and then it was Thursday night that had would have

462
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: had Carolina against the Saints. Now Thursday got a little

463
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: bit better. So you're having standalone game. If you're the NFL,

464
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: you want to have a standalone game, and there's a

465
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Speaker 2: reason why you have a standalone game. We got another

466
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: doubleheader coming up next Monday Night on the mother Ship. Yeah, Paul, Yeah.

467
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Speaker 8: The next Monday, the early game is Eagles at Box

468
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 8: surprisingly two and Oh Bucks as they will tease and

469
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 8: the Rams, who are saucy against the Bengals, must win

470
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 8: for Bengals.

471
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, may not have Joe Burrow though for that game

472
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: that's in Cincinnati. Mm.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Marv.

474
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Speaker 10: The early seven to fifteen games, those are feeling like

475
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 10: Thursday Night games, okay, where it's like, oh, well wait,

476
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 10: it's only Titans play the Panthers again.

477
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Speaker 1: Don't they play like five times a year Thursday Night? Yeah?

478
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Speaker 6: Yes, And I know there's time zones involved in stuff,

479
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 6: But if i'm their early game, I kind of feel

480
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 6: like the appetizer, like I'm the lead, the lead into

481
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 6: the more interesting game, which it was yesterday. Most people,

482
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Speaker 6: I don't care who you're a fan of. Steele as

483
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 6: Browns is the marquee game and we'll sprinkle in this

484
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 6: first and then you'll flip over to them.

485
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're playing, do you really care? Like

486
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm where the JV were the warm up backed Like

487
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: you're still more people were going to see you last

488
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: night than they would have seen you on Sunday at

489
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: one o'clock. Now you may not want them to see you,

490
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: So then you have an opinion. We have more of

491
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: an opinion of the Saints and the Panthers today then

492
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: we would have one o'clock on a Sunday.

493
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 10: Yes, Mark, last night the Saints Panthers, that's the Dennis

494
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 10: Green game. They are who we thought they were boring

495
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 10: and terrible.

496
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: But I think the Saints have a chance to be,

497
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: you know, win the division, host a playoff game.

498
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: The NFC South. Yeah you didn't say.

499
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 10: You said it like it was the AFC North.

500
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: They have a chance of with a division.

501
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: Teams. Yeah, how about that, Marvin? Yeah take that?

502
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 11: Yeah?

503
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Think And what's seven out of the day.

504
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: Out of the day, brought to.

505
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: You by a Panaanium America.

506
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, but if I'm a Saints fan, this is

507
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 8: about as good as I felt since Drew Brees broke

508
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 8: his ribs. Remember they were searching for quarterbacks and they're

509
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 8: trying Simeon and Taysom.

510
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 1: Hell, they feel good about this.

511
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 8: If I'm a Saints fan, I'm feeling real good today

512
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 8: because they're you were kind of irrelevant in the offseason.

513
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 8: We talked about some teams that don't have a lot

514
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 8: of buzz. They didn't have any off season buzz, even

515
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 8: getting Car that defense is good, and Car is good ish,

516
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 8: occasionally good, all of occasionally good.

517
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: Trying to put on it.

518
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, we got to see Taysom Hill last night. Yes, yeah, we.

519
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: Have a Taysom Hill game later.

520
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's it's that good. Okay, yes, tod.

521
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 6: If I'm the Saints and the Falcons keep wearing those

522
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 6: awesome red helmets, I am worried in the NFC South,

523
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 6: who's going to win that division?

524
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: Oh now you're jumping on my Falcons bend way.

525
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: But the helmet alone, those little mini helmet days, and

526
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 6: you put the quarter in the.

527
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: Machine once again, your childhood days. Let it go, Falcons,

528
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: let it go.

529
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 10: Yes, Marv and the Falcons have somebody you can put

530
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 10: on the marquee is a.

531
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Speaker 1: Star, Yes he is.

532
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 10: There's a difference between like there's good players, and then

533
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 10: there's good and star players. He might be on that

534
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 10: level of he's a good player, but he's also a

535
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 10: star like Early Odell.

536
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not playing in a media market. You know,

537
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: that's Saquon Barkley is v Jon Robinson and you know,

538
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: being able to play in the New York market. Bjeon's

539
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: a wonderful talent and the first player that I've watched

540
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: who has moves that were Barry Sanders like that. You

541
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: just say, how does the body go that way? He's

542
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: strong and you know, physical runner. It's just you watch

543
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: these running backs, you just you hope that they're able

544
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: to play and play for a long time without serious injury.

545
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: It just that goes along with the territory there. And

546
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: you saw that with Nick Chubb last night. Maybe you

547
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: didn't see it with Nick Chubb because the injury, the

548
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: camera angle is kind of shielded because you can't really

549
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: see what happened. But what happens is you'll have your

550
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: director and producer who will be in the truck and

551
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: they have all these monitors. They probably went, oh that,

552
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, telling Joe buck in his ear, Oh, it's

553
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: really bad. That's usually what happens somebody will give you

554
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: a heads up because Joe's calling the action and he's

555
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: watching the monitor, or maybe he's just watching the play

556
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: and maybe he can't see it and we can't. You know,

557
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: We're looking at and go okay, and then all of

558
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, he's like grabbing his knee. And then they

559
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: talked about, you know, the severity of it, and then

560
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: we realized, now you have to show it again to

561
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: at least put it in context of what happened there.

562
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: They decided that they weren't going to do it. I

563
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: would have done it. I would have done it once

564
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: because you know, you're you're carrying the game, and I

565
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: think you owe it to the audience and you could

566
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: do a disclaimer and look, I might be in the

567
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: minority here, but I if I was running the show,

568
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 2: I'd say, right, you know, Joe, give them a disclaimer.

569
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: We're going to show this, just let them know that

570
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: this is a gruesome injury, and you show it once

571
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: and even say, look, we're going to show it once.

572
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: That's all we're going to show. We hope to get

573
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: a you know, an update on his injury at some

574
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: point throughout the game.

575
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: What would you've done Todd.

576
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 6: I agree with what you just said. You give them

577
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 6: you don't have to play it multiple times. You give people,

578
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 6: the people that are watching a chance to turn away,

579
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 6: and you show it the one time and that's the

580
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 6: end of it. But that's exactly how it should be.

581
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 11: Endling.

582
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 9: What about you see when did it become the norm

583
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 9: that you don't show them. I forget who it was now,

584
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 9: but somebody broke their arm in the end zone once

585
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 9: and it was like showing a couple of times and

586
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 9: they're like, I gotta stop showing that.

587
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.

588
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: There was an injury in the Super Bowl the Bengals

589
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: and the Niners, Tim Crumbrae and they had a terrible

590
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: turf in Miami that led to that injury, and they

591
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: showed it. Uh, you know when Kevin Ware of Louisville,

592
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: they showed it above shot the Jason Kendall broke an

593
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: ankle at first, Yeah, pulling.

594
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 8: One That stands out to me where they showed it,

595
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 8: but they really tried not to do. You remember when

596
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 8: Gordon Hayward broke his leg with the Celtics. I happen

597
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 8: to be watching that game. It wasn't a national game.

598
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 8: As a local game, and they are like, oh, they

599
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 8: were very cringey. They showed a top shot almost like

600
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 8: a overhead camera angle, like a jibcam, high up so

601
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 8: you could see the play, see what caused the injury,

602
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 8: but you couldn't see really close.

603
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: They kind of watered it down.

604
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 10: I guess you could say, what about you, Marvin, Yeah,

605
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 10: I would have given a disclaimer, just showed it once

606
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 10: and maybe, like Paulie said, maybe an overhead angle, maybe

607
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 10: a far away angle, but I'm not sure about that

608
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 10: close up. But I would have.

609
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Paulie, what would you have done?

610
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you have to show it. Definitely a disclaimer.

611
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 8: This is not pleasant, not that good, but you know

612
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 8: there might be a story here. This is a star

613
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 8: running back on an interesting team.

614
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: Who was he hit low? Was it a cheap shot?

615
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 8: The people at home have to decide what happened on

616
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 8: that play. You definitely give a disclaimer in case of

617
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 8: his kids watching, if you can give a couple second

618
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 8: rack it up once and then it's the choice of

619
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 8: the viewer, and then you were telling the full story.

620
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I probably leaned towards that way.

621
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: And you know, you have to make these decisions in

622
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: the moment, we you know, I have the benefit of

623
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: twelve hours here that or whatever it is that I

624
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: can go. Well, I don't in the moment. You're the director,

625
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: you're the producer. You probably have your boss who's running

626
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: the network, who's going to be involved in this as well.

627
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: But I think you have to show it once and

628
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: if you can do it, you know, you don't do

629
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: a slow motion, don't you know, do a spot shadow,

630
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: don't do any diagram. You know, just here is the

631
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: injury from another angle here and this is the same

632
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: need that is surgically repaired with Nick Chubb, and then

633
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: you move on from that.

634
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, see that Kevin ware injury was ten years ago.

635
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, Joe Eisman, when that happened, you realize

636
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: right away. You know how I realized right away, and

637
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: I was at the game, was Lawrence Taylor's reaction. So

638
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: here's the baddest dude on the planet playing football and

639
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's like he's got his hands

640
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: up by his helmet and he's like, oh my god.

641
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: And you know we've talked to.

642
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Joe th Eisman about this, and Joe, you know, the

643
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: body goes into shock. So I don't know if Joe

644
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: was in pain when his leg was broken. I'm sure

645
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: it was painful, I should say, but your body goes

646
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: into shock, and that probably happened to him where it's like, Okay,

647
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: I know I'm in trouble here, and then they're going

648
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 2: to get you off the field and then they're going

649
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 2: to try to numb that up. But I remember Lawrence

650
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: Taylor's reaction because as I've been told that you could

651
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: hear it, you could hear it break, and I think

652
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Speaker 2: that's what LT was reacting to, is, oh my god,

653
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Speaker 2: he just ended Joe Eisman's career.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 6: Uh, I was just watching on one of the websites

656
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Speaker 6: that actual play, and they did show at least once

657
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Speaker 6: the reverse angle. Well you see his leg kind of

658
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Speaker 6: get mangled and stuck underneath. I don't know how many

659
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Speaker 6: more times they showed it after that. Yeah, they did

660
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Speaker 6: show a slow motion reverse angle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes if you show it from Afar, but I

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Speaker 2: would have shown it. Napoleon McCallum, remember when he blew

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Speaker 2: out his knee with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: That was a Monday night game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've had those, but I think you just have

666
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Speaker 2: to be sensitive, that's all. And what I was told

667
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Speaker 2: one time by a news director is you want to

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Speaker 2: show your audience, but you also have to factor in

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Speaker 2: that person who just got injured their family watching this

670
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Speaker 2: as well. And it always stayed in the back of

671
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Speaker 2: my mind if you ever had something like this where

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, well, imagine if that's your

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Speaker 2: husband or that's your son, that's your brother, and you're

674
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Speaker 2: watching that kind of injury and just being sensitive to that.

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Speaker 1: Who was the.

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Speaker 2: Picture left handed pitcher who broke his heart because armed? Yeah,

677
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Speaker 2: Dave Dreveki and I, you know, you watched it and

678
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Speaker 2: you saw the ball just kind of drop and then

679
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: you realized that something really bad happened and he broke

680
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Speaker 2: his arm on a pitch and uh, you know we

681
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Speaker 2: talked to him about that as well. He joined us

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Speaker 2: and I don't know what year that was, but I

683
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Speaker 2: remember that he said, it just popped, and uh he

684
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Speaker 2: realized that, you know, it had broken. Something that doesn't

685
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Speaker 2: happen but it did to uh Dave. Yeah, Pauling.

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Speaker 8: Going back to last night, I was watching, and I

687
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Speaker 8: was more surprised that they didn't show the Nick Chubb

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Speaker 8: replay than if they would have, because, like I said,

689
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Speaker 8: usually they show one, or it was a disclaimer or

690
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Speaker 8: maybe a distant angle. Do you think it's the social

691
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Speaker 8: media era where they were concerned and real time about

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Speaker 8: the outpouring of criticism by showing that injury. That's what

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Speaker 8: I thought when I thought about it for a couple minutes, like, wow,

694
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Speaker 8: that's that's surprising day. They didn't show it because networks

695
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Speaker 8: usually do, But I think that maybe the chilling effect

696
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Speaker 8: has gotten into the booth.

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Speaker 1: Well. Also, you can show it once, but social media

698
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Speaker 1: is going to show it forever.

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Speaker 9: Even on social media though you get criticized if you

700
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Speaker 9: post the injury. You're not even supposed to post it

701
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Speaker 9: on social media, or you'll get back last year.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break here. We'll get

703
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Speaker 2: phone calls and our play of the day is up.

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Speaker 2: Next big day coming up on Friday in the man Cave.

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Speaker 2: It's a meat Friday. But we're bringing in the chef

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Speaker 2: from King's Hawaiian. Yes, Tyler's getting kicked to the curb again.

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Speaker 2: We're bringing in a professional and the chef is probably

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Speaker 2: going to talk about Slider Sunday that King's Hawaiian is

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Speaker 2: making into a national holiday. I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: is what he's going to make, well, I think he's

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Speaker 2: going to make quite a few different sliders. But if

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Speaker 2: chicken sliders mm hmm, rotissery chicken, brown sugar, barbecue sauce, roasted.

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Speaker 2: And ranch dressing, some slash onion, all prepared on kings

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Speaker 2: Hawaiian's original sweet roles. Football Sunday is all about sharing

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Speaker 2: The only way to Sunday go to the bakery or

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Speaker 4: Hey what's up, everybody, It's me three time pro bowler

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Speaker 4: Levarrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce a

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Speaker 4: podcast called up on Game?

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Speaker 3: What is up on Game?

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Speaker 4: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Huschman,

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Speaker 4: Zada and Super Bowl champion Yep, that's right, Plexico Burris,

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Speaker 3: Up on Game.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded

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Speaker 4: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me

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Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

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Speaker 4: podcast from. Oh my god, the play of the day, brother,

742
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Speaker 4: is the play of the day.

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Speaker 5: Check this out watching under center Steelers showing blitz long

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Speaker 5: count play action.

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Speaker 1: Faki's back.

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Speaker 11: There's that on the calligside of us.

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Speaker 1: Could you pick it up?

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Speaker 11: And that's Tej what trunning for the exode Steeler rip

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Speaker 11: the touchdown the strip by high Smith and his cooking buddy,

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Speaker 11: what scooped and scored and THESS Steelers take the lead

751
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 11: their second defensive touchdown of this game.

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Speaker 2: Courtesy of the Steelers Radio Network. I like Heismith was

753
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: all over the field last night, TJ Watt he finally

754
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: scores a touchdown. He ranks third in his family in touchdowns. Yeah,

755
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: JJ was six, Derek with three, and TJ with his first.

756
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: He leads the NFL and forced fumbles since coming into

757
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Speaker 2: the league in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Is t J Watt already a Hall of Famer?

759
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 2: He's got I think seventy five sacks if you put

760
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: in the forced fumbles in there, like, I don't know

761
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: what the line is now, the line of demarcation where

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Speaker 2: you go?

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Speaker 1: Okay, now you're a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauline, So he's twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 8: He's played. This is season number seven. Out of his

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Speaker 8: six seasons, he's been All Pro five times, First Team

767
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 8: All Pro, I'm sorry, Pro Bowl five times, First Team

768
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Speaker 8: All Pro three times. Right on a cuss, Let's say

769
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Speaker 8: there was a career ending injury or something. He'd probably

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Speaker 8: get the Hall Pass for the injury because of the injury.

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Speaker 8: But you end up with one hundred sacks, you're on

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Speaker 8: your way.

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Speaker 1: Rank.

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Speaker 2: How many guys have one hundred sacks who aren't in

775
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and they're eligible. I'd be curious.

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Speaker 2: Play of the Day brought to you by the great

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Speaker 2: folks at Kings Hawaiian. They want you to get together

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Speaker 2: with friends and family, enjoy football this weekend and make

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Speaker 2: every Sunday a slighter Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, I've got the all time sack leaders. What

781
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 8: there's a lot of guys over one hundred. A couple

782
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Speaker 8: of names that aren't in the Hall of Fame. Jason

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Speaker 8: Taylor is he and ye, yeah, he's in.

784
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Speaker 3: He dig it in. Okay, Yeah, Therell Suggs, he's on

785
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Speaker 3: his way.

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Speaker 1: He'll be in.

787
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Speaker 3: De Marcus Ware is on his way.

788
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Speaker 1: He got in.

789
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Speaker 3: We dig it in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this past.

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Speaker 8: Year, here's one one hundred and thirty three sacks. John

792
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Speaker 8: Abraham not a household name.

793
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Speaker 1: He's not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 8: He retired in fourteen, five time Pro bowler, two time

795
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Speaker 8: All Pro, did it for a few different.

796
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Speaker 1: Teams, mostly Atlanta, didn't he.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, never let the league in sacks, but he had

798
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Speaker 8: a bunch of like twelve sacks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, he's kind of a compiling piler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as they say, compiling sacks.

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Speaker 8: Another one, Leslie O'Neill one hundred and thirty two sacks.

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Speaker 3: And if he didn't get in already. He's probably not

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Speaker 3: gonna has No.

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Speaker 1: He was a big deal for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, because the Chargers always had great offense.

806
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: We just didn't know if they had enough defense. And

807
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Leslie O'Neill was say he was a great player, he

808
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Speaker 2: was a weapon.

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Speaker 8: A couple more guys who were over won twenty sacks.

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Speaker 8: Remember Clyde Simmons for Philadelphia, Yeah, one twenty one, Simeon.

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Speaker 3: Rice one in Tampa Bay one twenty two.

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Speaker 1: And they're not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it might not. Yeah, they've been out for a while,

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Speaker 3: those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, have the Veterans Committee, I think, and then

816
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Speaker 2: they put in six every year, at least six candidates

817
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Speaker 2: go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Uh let's see. Oh,

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Speaker 2: do we have the all purpose game? All purpose player game?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, this is based off we have the all

821
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Speaker 8: purpose football music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 3: Purpose.

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Speaker 8: Taysom Hill had a completion, ran the ball, and caught

825
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Speaker 8: a pass last night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so threw a pass, caught a pass and had

827
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Speaker 2: at least one carriage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the pass had to be complete, not just

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Speaker 3: in the tent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and not to himself, right, because there have been quarterbacks.

831
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Speaker 1: Who have thrown and actually cant throned the.

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Speaker 8: Pass since in the Super Bowl era, since nineteen sixty seven,

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Speaker 8: what players have.

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Speaker 1: The motion that's correct?

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Speaker 3: Thank you good night.

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Speaker 8: Now that's actually not the correct anthem. It's kind of

837
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Speaker 8: the critics. Which players have the most games of that

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Speaker 8: ILK where they threw a pass that was complete, caught

839
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Speaker 8: one and ran one.

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Speaker 3: The leader in the clubhouse has fifteen such games.

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Speaker 1: Gail says, Taysom.

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Speaker 8: Hill at fifteen. He's winning the Taysom Hill Okay, now

843
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Speaker 8: he now that to be fired him. He's playing quarterback, specifically.

844
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Speaker 1: Number two all time, Walter Payton.

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Speaker 8: Walter Payton is correct with nine damn in putting eight

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Speaker 8: touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: He's incredible.

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Speaker 3: I should have played quarterback as well. I'm gonna see

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Speaker 3: if anyone can name anyone in the top five. They're

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Speaker 3: all they all played.

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Speaker 1: Uh wait, I thought we did a couple more.

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Speaker 3: I want to get Emma Smith.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I don't think they wanted him to throw

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Speaker 1: the football.

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Speaker 3: One's a wide receiver, the other two are running backs.

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Speaker 3: The other one's a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Is Wes Chandler.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's a good guess. I think he's got four.

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Speaker 3: That's a good guess. I'm giving that to you, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Cordell Stewart, No, I give.

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Speaker 11: You a hit.

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Speaker 8: He played most of his career for the Steelers, with

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Speaker 8: a bulk of his career. Name is hyphenated oh Antoine

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Speaker 8: Randall l This player was fantastic in college. Fantastic for

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Speaker 8: your first few years. Then for some reason team stopped

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Speaker 8: using him and he his career kind of went to

867
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Speaker 8: Kansas City. Marcus Allen eight games completions caught one think.

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Speaker 2: He was a high school quarterback, then he was a

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Speaker 2: full back in college, and then became a tailback and

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Speaker 2: then became a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Two more. This is running back, a friend of the.

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Speaker 2: Show, Friend of the show, running back West Coast through

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Speaker 2: a lot of passes. Christian McCaffrey, La Danian Tomlin, Danian Tomlinson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now here's the curveball.

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Speaker 8: There's a quarterback who, of course threw passes and ran

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Speaker 8: the ball, but he made had seven receptions in his career.

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Speaker 3: This is nuts. Not who you expect.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Douglas.

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Speaker 3: No, he just retired a couple years ago.

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Speaker 8: This player, and he's been mentioned on Today's show for

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Speaker 8: having broken ribs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, man Drew Brees's career.

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Speaker 3: Drew Brees is seven catches in his career. How about that?

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Speaker 1: I did not know that.

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Speaker 3: Talk back to you.

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Speaker 2: That's the all pro player game. That's the Taysom Hill Gap.

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Speaker 2: Here's what it's called.

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Speaker 3: Factionally.

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Speaker 2: John Wertheim of sixty minutes profile Dion Sanders, he'll join

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Speaker 2: us coming up in a little bit. Were they running

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Speaker 2: that profile on Dion? If Colorado State had won that game?

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to him about that. Your phone calls as well.

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