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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Aaron Torres,

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Speaker 2: Jason martin In on your national post game reaction. The

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs have done it again. As we come

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Speaker 2: on air, Clark Hunt accepting another Lombardi Trophy, as Brian

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Speaker 2: Finley just told you, a walk off touchdown in overtime

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Speaker 2: three seconds to go. Jason Martin, I'll be honest, we

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Speaker 2: were here in the Fox Sports Radio studio scrambling try

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Speaker 2: to figure out what happens if you go to a

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Speaker 2: second overtime?

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Speaker 3: Is it sudden death?

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Speaker 2: What a winning h and all of a sudden Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes does it again, walk off touchdown to McCole Hartman.

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Speaker 2: As we said three seconds left, he can't. The City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are once again your Super Bowl champs.

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Speaker 3: How fun was that?

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Speaker 4: J Martin? I mean it got very dramatic late man,

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Speaker 4: There's a lot to talk about. So I watched the last,

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Speaker 4: the last bit of regulation and all of overtime on delay.

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Speaker 4: I had to pause late in the fourth quarter to

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Speaker 4: put my daughter to bed because she was calling for

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Speaker 4: me to do it. Because, let me tell you, who

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Speaker 4: didn't give a crap about what was happening in the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. That would be Claire Grace Martin. She wanted

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Speaker 4: daddy to put her to sleep, so I had to

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Speaker 4: make sure that that was taken care of. So I

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Speaker 4: ended up probably seeing the final play two or three

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Speaker 4: minutes because there were enough commercials during overtime. I was

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Speaker 4: able to catch up almost to live but not quite.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that if it's not going to be an

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Speaker 4: all time great game, for it to become dramatic and

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Speaker 2: Well, if this is honesty, so I'll be honest. Is

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Speaker 2: I am in the Fox Sports Radio Los Angeles studio?

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Speaker 2: to be on the air the last five six hours

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Speaker 2: with this entire Super Bowl and if it's transparency hour,

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, Jason. When we took this shift,

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Speaker 2: I figured, you know what game will end about nine

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Speaker 2: thirty ten o'clock Eastern. I'll have an hour to prep,

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Speaker 2: an hour to think, an hour to this, an.

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Speaker 3: Hour to that.

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Speaker 2: I took it right up until I could in the

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Speaker 2: Torres Man Cave scrambled over here. So most of overtime

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Speaker 2: I was actually in the car, but I did get

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Speaker 2: in for the final play. As I said, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: to me, McCole harbin, excuse me. Three seconds left in overtime.

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Speaker 2: San Francis took the ball first. San Francisco ended up

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Speaker 2: kicking a field goal after a lengthy drive and Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes drives the length of the field. Listen, you know

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Speaker 2: this is one of those we're going off the cuff

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Speaker 2: like everybody else's. I know, everybody's getting in the car.

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Speaker 2: We're just at the Super Bowl parties. Whatever. What are

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Speaker 2: the first reactions, because I don't even know where to start.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you kind of referenced it wasn't necessarily maybe

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Speaker 2: the greatest game for the first half, maybe even three quarters,

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Speaker 2: but it was back and forth. In the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco picks up a crucial fourth down.

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Speaker 3: I was stunned.

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Speaker 2: They went for it late in the fourth quarter when

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Speaker 2: they could have kicked a field goal to tie it.

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Speaker 2: They actually take the lead, then missed the pat which

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Speaker 2: obviously set up a Kansas City field goal which sent

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Speaker 2: it to overtime. And then again, as I just said,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, a lengthy, lengthy, lengthy drive as a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, a thirteen play sixty six yard drive that

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Speaker 2: took seven thirty eight off the clock. All Mahomes needed

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Speaker 3: We got three hours to break this down. We're down.

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Speaker 2: We're on til two am Eastern. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what the first reaction is, Jason. But but when I

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Speaker 2: ask you first reaction, Kansas City Chiefs once again super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champion, walk off champion, essentially with three seconds to

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Speaker 2: go in overtime, what is your thought?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So both defenses largely played well. Okay, But when

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Speaker 4: we were breaking this game down twenty four hours ago,

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Speaker 4: and when we were talking about it last week on

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Speaker 4: Championship game in our usual Saturday night slot is that

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Speaker 4: it's his league until further notice, somebody's gonna have to

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Speaker 4: go and rip it from them. Yes, the defenses we

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Speaker 4: some excellent stuff. But when it came down to it,

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Speaker 4: the difference in the football game is one of these

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Speaker 4: teams had Patrick Mahomes at quarterback and the other one

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Speaker 4: did not. That's the exact same narrative that played out

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Speaker 4: the last time these two teams played in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: One team had Patrick Mahomes, the other one had Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 4: Garoppolo missed one more throw, then Patrick Mahomes then made

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Speaker 4: his and that was all it took. When you took

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Speaker 4: the ball first and overtime and you kicked the field goal,

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Speaker 4: you just knew exactly how this was going to end,

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Speaker 4: and that's what you got, and you got it with

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Speaker 4: three seconds left in the first quarter of overtime. That

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Speaker 4: was strange, and actually I'm glad. Tony Romo explained that

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Speaker 2: I was actually listening to the radio broadcast and Kurt

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Speaker 2: Warner was apoplectic as to why San Francisco to taking

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Speaker 3: So I'm cured.

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Speaker 4: So Tony Romo said, there's probably a lot of people

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Speaker 4: out there not understanding this, but that's because overtime is

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Speaker 4: like another game. This is just the end of the

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Speaker 4: first quarter. So it wasn't like when the time ran

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Speaker 4: They weren't looking at the clock at all. They could

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Speaker 4: why they weren't calling the timeout. I didn't know that rule.

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Speaker 4: I was. I was glad that Romo explained that because

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Speaker 2: So essentially say one more time because I'm watching this

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Speaker 4: Basically it's just another quarter. Like so if you the

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Speaker 2: So if they kick a field goal, so if they

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Speaker 2: So if they kick a field goal with three seconds left,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it would obviously go to a second overtime.

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Speaker 2: And what you're saying is in the second overtime, both

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that side. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 4: of quote the quarter, like That's basically what he said.

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Speaker 4: Because this is the reason they're not calling a time

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Speaker 4: first quarter. This is not the end of the football game.

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Speaker 4: Because I thought I was seeing one of the most

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Speaker 4: Now it ends up not mattering either way.

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Speaker 2: But but then they have two timeouts, so I'm totally

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Speaker 4: Yeah they did, but they didn't call it. They didn't

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Speaker 4: call either one of them, is what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's why I didn't understand why until Romo explained that,

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Speaker 4: and I think most of us didn't know that until

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Speaker 2: Either way, Mahomes and the Chiefs do it again. By

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Speaker 2: the way, A tweet from Brennan I think sums up

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Speaker 2: everybody's thoughts on this, not just tonight, but really the

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Speaker 2: last four or five weeks. Brennan Brody tweets in tonight's

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl proves that I never should have doubted Mahomes

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Speaker 2: until he fails. I'll never doubt him until then. It

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Speaker 2: was the best athletic event I've witnessed in forty three years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Brendan was at the game or not,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I don't know if it was the

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Speaker 2: best athletic event that I've ever witnessed. But listen, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I said this on our show, Jason, I

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Speaker 2: perfect applicable, you know, apples to apples thing, because I

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Speaker 2: don't think people think nobody thinks that brock perty is

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Speaker 2: his equal, but this is I basically stopped doubting Mahomes

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Speaker 2: after he went through Josh Allen on the road, Lamar

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Speaker 2: so funny today I'll say this too. And again we

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Speaker 2: are reacting in real time life from the Thetireck dot

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Speaker 3: Like I just you know, it was so funny watching all.

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Speaker 2: Of the pregame reaction, the pregame shows and even listening

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Speaker 2: all of these games end. When everybody has the same

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Speaker 2: and it's for the same reason.

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Speaker 3: It never works out that way, but this did.

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Speaker 2: And this just proves, as you said, as you and

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Speaker 2: and I've said this many times. But if you go

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Speaker 2: end the era and end the dynasty and end the whatever.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not comparing, you know, Rock Purty to Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: but what I am saying is, you watch these playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and I think we all probably thought they would take

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Speaker 2: care of business against the Miami Dolphins. But again, you

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Speaker 2: the Bills get over the hump.

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, Lamar's the MVP. This has gotta be Nope.

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Speaker 2: Well San Francisco across the board, more talent, nope, And

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Speaker 2: so listen already at we got two and a half

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Speaker 2: more hours of this. I don't know what else there

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Speaker 2: is to say other than that until somebody topples Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes in any given season, they have to be the pick.

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Speaker 2: the road. They should be the pick next year until

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Speaker 2: further notice. They just continue to do anyway I'm talking

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Speaker 3: Drama.

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Speaker 10: know that there were just a bunch of the Cowboys.

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Speaker 10: We remember we had a conversation with Dallas and Dak

439
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Speaker 10: and everybody being back, and that's how I kind of

440
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Speaker 10: like felt with this team was there wasn't any great

441
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Speaker 10: moments into it at first, but then you had them

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Speaker 10: at the end. But at the end of overtime, by

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Speaker 10: the way, three seconds left in the overtime, we were

444
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Speaker 10: going to be headed into the double overtime. Patrick Mahomes

445
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Speaker 10: steals the deal, and that seems to always keep them

446
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Speaker 10: seen now in the National Football League. So I just

447
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Speaker 10: think get Away a kind of representative of what this

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Speaker 10: season in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Was, Dan I was. I was actually seeing I'm still

450
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Speaker 4: seeing a lot of Niners fans upset that Kyle Shanahan

451
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Speaker 4: didn't defer in overtime. Am I missing something or would

452
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Speaker 4: that have made no sense? Like the idea that you

453
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Speaker 4: would give Mahomes the ball and if he scores a touchdown,

454
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Speaker 4: you're done. I know your defense was playing fairly well

455
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Speaker 4: in the game, but it wasn't trending in your direction.

456
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Speaker 4: I didn't see the logic in that, but I see

457
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Speaker 4: a lot of people trying to criticize Kyle Shanahan for

458
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Speaker 4: it right now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Jason, and you know I'm with you. In that scenario,

460
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Speaker 10: what was what did it look like in the second half.

461
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Speaker 10: It looked like that the both defenses were completely gassed

462
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Speaker 10: and if you could get their defense back out of

463
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Speaker 10: the field again, you know, I know, they just had

464
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Speaker 10: like the breaks in Kansas City march down the field,

465
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Speaker 10: you know, with two minutes left in regulation, but you

466
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Speaker 10: allow your defense to rest a little bit more, and

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Speaker 10: that wouldn't even be the number one reason. Just take

468
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Speaker 10: the ball going score and put you know, scort touchdown

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Speaker 10: and make Kansas City do it. I don't see any

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Speaker 10: reasoning and why you would defer, So I'm with you

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Speaker 10: on that one. I actually think it was the right decision.

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Speaker 10: It did with pressure I think on party of the

473
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Speaker 10: offense to do something with the with the football, and

474
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Speaker 10: they kind of got bailed out by that holding ball,

475
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Speaker 10: which I think Eagles fans you know, looking back, probably

476
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Speaker 10: not much solid there. But the Chiefs get busted on

477
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Speaker 10: something you know this time around that the Eagles got

478
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Speaker 10: busted on last year that cost them the game. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: I don't see why you would. I don't know why

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Speaker 10: you would you know, defer or want to kick or

481
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Speaker 10: go on defense first. It doesn't make any sense. Whatever, right,

482
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Speaker 10: and even if you are trying to be strategic about it,

483
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Speaker 10: and I think the thing that you want to do

484
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Speaker 10: is make sure that your defense has at least a

485
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Speaker 10: little gap in the tank at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: Dan Bayer joining air tours Jason Martin here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Dan is live at Allegiance Stadium as the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs win yet another Super Bowl twenty five

489
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Speaker 2: and overtime.

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Speaker 3: Dan. We'll get back to the game in a minute.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you know this about me.

492
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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in Vegas, family out there,

493
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Speaker 2: My mom lives out there part time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Just take us for those of us who weren't didn't

495
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Speaker 2: have a chance to get out there. First time Vegas

496
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Speaker 2: hosts a super Bowl, it was talked about all day

497
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Speaker 2: all week.

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Speaker 3: What was the scene like out there?

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Speaker 2: Because it does kind of seem like the perfect city, celebrities, nightlife,

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Speaker 2: this that to kind of host an event like this.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I wouldn't even I wouldn't even

502
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Speaker 10: say this.

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Speaker 11: And I think this goes from the fans or anybody

504
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Speaker 11: that wants to stay un of state and a super

505
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Speaker 11: Bowl or go to a Super Bowl it's Las Vegas

506
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Speaker 11: had ample space for everybody, and there are very very

507
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Speaker 11: few cities that actually have that ability where you can

508
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Speaker 11: house people who just come into town that weekend for

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Speaker 11: the game.

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Speaker 10: And all in one pretty much centralized location in the

511
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Speaker 10: stadium that we're at right now is literally right across

512
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Speaker 10: the street from the strip. It was super tears from

513
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Speaker 10: the strip. It was super convenient when it rained for

514
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Speaker 10: two days for us and media wise, we didn't have

515
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Speaker 10: to go outside, but you know, people aren't sitting there

516
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Speaker 10: having to, you know, get a hotel room fifteen miles

517
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Speaker 10: away and going in a different suburb and having that

518
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Speaker 10: event spread out everywhere. It was suggested there were a

519
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Speaker 10: lot of people, Yes, And I saw videos going to

520
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Speaker 10: the NFL experience the Super Bowl experience yesterday. You're gonna

521
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Speaker 10: get clouds like that, but they have it all centrally

522
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Speaker 10: located and be where the action is. Yeah, And honestly,

523
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Speaker 10: it was one of the best road Super Bowls I've

524
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Speaker 10: ever been to.

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Speaker 4: Dan, what do you think the talk the chatter is

526
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Speaker 4: going to be across the country tomorrow regarding Brock Party.

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Speaker 4: After coming up a little bit short here and just

528
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Speaker 4: flat out at the end, one team had the Homes

529
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Speaker 4: and the other one didn't, and that's the difference in

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's funny because earlier this week when

532
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Speaker 10: we were on Radio Row and when I was with

533
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Speaker 10: Doug Gottlieb, Doug pointed out and said, you know, we're

534
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Speaker 10: gonna find out how good rock Party was. I don't

535
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Speaker 10: think pretty was good tonight. I don't know if he

536
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Speaker 10: was awful, but he wasn't good. And when they needed

537
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Speaker 10: they needed a touchdown, they only end up with three.

538
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Speaker 10: And I think that lends the point of I thought

539
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Speaker 10: brock Perdy was going to show if he was going

540
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Speaker 10: to be with you was great or not, and I

541
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Speaker 10: think we got that answer right now. It also doesn't

542
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Speaker 10: mean that he can't become that quarterback that you know,

543
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Speaker 10: I mean actually in the second year and you know,

544
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Speaker 10: in a system and to learn and grow and do whatever.

545
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Speaker 10: But right now he's not at that point and just

546
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Speaker 10: taking something and taking a step back to your point,

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Speaker 10: Chase of Perdy goes to the Niners, win the toss,

548
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Speaker 10: take the ball, go down, they set up for three.

549
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Speaker 10: Mahomes gets the football, which, by the way, this team

550
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Speaker 10: has had such troubles in the red zones for the

551
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Speaker 10: second half of the season and even in the playoffs,

552
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Speaker 10: and somehow the figure out a way to get six

553
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Speaker 10: yards when they need it, four yards when they need it,

554
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Speaker 10: a half a yard when they need it, and then

555
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Speaker 10: when you have first and ten or you know whatever,

556
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Speaker 10: it was, your first and goal into three yard line,

557
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Speaker 10: you end up throwing a game winning touchdown. Pack It's

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Speaker 10: just it's it does show I think how far away

559
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Speaker 10: brock Purty is. But also, and I would say this

560
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Speaker 10: guy that never is the argument about party. So everything

561
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Speaker 10: that we've argued about him over the last four months

562
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Speaker 10: I think continues because now the immunition goes to the

563
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Speaker 10: people who didn't believe in him, and they're going to

564
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Speaker 10: point to only the field goal, and they're gonna point

565
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Speaker 10: to the struggles. They're going to point to not using Christian

566
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Speaker 10: diccaffery and often think Steve Purdy couldn't carry them. I

567
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Speaker 10: think those people have now some leverage over the next

568
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Speaker 10: four or five months. I don't think that argument changes.

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Speaker 10: But it was never about how good he was. It

570
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Speaker 10: was just like is he the best or does he stink?

571
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Speaker 10: And I don't know if that's gonna change this off

572
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Speaker 10: eval's not fair you know, and I don't think it's

573
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Speaker 10: I don't think it's correct, but I don't think that

574
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Speaker 10: that changes anything.

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Speaker 2: Dan Bayer joining Aaron Tors Jayson Martin Fox Sports Sunday,

576
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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs once again your Super Bowl champs.

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Speaker 3: Dan live in Las Vegas.

578
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll kind of ask you kind of inverse

579
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Speaker 2: of that, Dan, is you know, we're watching the Kansas

580
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Speaker 2: City Chiefs walk off the field at a Legion Stadium.

581
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Speaker 2: It was less than two months ago that the home

582
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Speaker 2: team in that stadium in Las Vegas, Raiders, goes to

583
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Speaker 2: Arrowhead on Christmas Day, and we're you know, I don't

584
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Speaker 2: think I would to not throw a pass in the

585
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Speaker 2: second half or something like that, and we just thought

586
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs were done, Like, Okay, this isn't the year

587
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: they got a retool. They'll figure it out next year.

588
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: They obviously ended up having to go on the road.

589
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Speaker 2: Like you, you're as big of a fan of football

590
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Speaker 2: as anybody I know. Like, what does it say to

591
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Speaker 2: the other thirty one teams in this league that Kansas

592
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Speaker 2: City is hoisting the Little Bardi Trophy after all the

593
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Speaker 2: struggles they had in the regular season.

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Speaker 10: So we have the dumb button ready, because that's what

595
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Speaker 10: I would say if I was, I won't say it,

596
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Speaker 10: but yeah, it's not good. This isn't a great chief

597
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 10: team by any means, and we think that they will

598
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Speaker 10: probably only get better. Rashi Rice is going to develop

599
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Speaker 10: into a more reliable target. You know, they'll figure out

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Speaker 10: something with their running game. Their defense is really really good.

601
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Speaker 10: You would have to expect that their offense would would

602
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Speaker 10: end up taking another step at some point. Question is

603
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Speaker 10: is is you know what do you get out of

604
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Speaker 10: Travis Kelcey quite honestly, and it's not even like about retirement,

605
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Speaker 10: and he had this worst regular season that he had,

606
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Speaker 10: you know, in his entire career. Maybe you end up

607
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Speaker 10: trying to start to find his replacement. But yeah, Aaron,

608
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Speaker 10: I think to the point of of what do you

609
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Speaker 10: say to everybody else? It's like crap, because even if

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Speaker 10: they have a regular season, even if they have a

611
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Speaker 10: game like they did against the Raiders like that. I

612
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Speaker 10: made fun of people saying I can't bet against Patrick

613
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Speaker 10: Mahomes because I thought it was such an easy cop

614
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Speaker 10: out to analyze this game, and now it's really like

615
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Speaker 10: a true thing, like you just can't you can't pick

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Speaker 10: against them yeah, and I'm trying to think of like

617
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Speaker 10: other you know, other spots. I thought the Houston Rockets

618
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Speaker 10: in the mid nineties, but that was such a you know,

619
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Speaker 10: short window just when they went back to back of

620
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Speaker 10: you know, maybe a team that won it and came

621
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Speaker 10: back it wasn't as good the next year and still

622
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Speaker 10: want it. But yeah, it's this is a down year

623
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Speaker 10: for them, so you're just gonna you're gonna end up

624
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Speaker 10: having to deal with them, and to see what they

625
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Speaker 10: do in French time, it's just got to be absolutely infuriating.

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Speaker 10: I mean, look at the app going to need to Buffalo,

627
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Speaker 10: had you know, finally got him in Buffalo, Bean Dawkins

628
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Speaker 10: pick him and Josh Allen could have been a different story.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, this is It's not it's a good Chiefs team.

630
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Speaker 10: I don't think it's a great Chiefs team. And now

631
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Speaker 10: the rest of the AFC and NFC are gonna have

632
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Speaker 10: to deal with that this offseason.

633
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Speaker 4: Dan, what was the cinnamon in the building regarding the

634
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Speaker 4: halftime show? Just since you were there, I mean I

635
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Speaker 4: only caught the back half of it. It's not I

636
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Speaker 4: think Usher was a little after my time, so uh

637
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Speaker 4: not not really the biggest on his catalogue. But what

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Speaker 4: was the general cinniment in the building Just regarding that performance.

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Speaker 10: I think it was, hey, I'll use a parallel. It

640
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Speaker 10: represented this game. I don't think people were into it

641
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Speaker 10: as first. I don't think he got the pop of

642
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 10: Alicia Keys and now everybody's trying to find out who's here,

643
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Speaker 10: and some of that stuff leads until you're expecting it,

644
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Speaker 10: and it wasn't as exciting. But when Ludacrous came out

645
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Speaker 10: and they're doing yeah with you know, Loan John, and

646
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Speaker 10: that was that was kind of like the fourth quarter

647
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Speaker 10: and overtime Super Bowl. I thought that it did start slow.

648
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 10: You had you know, the h you know, the HBCU

649
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 10: band out there playing early, but that didn't necessarily translate.

650
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Speaker 10: But it picked up at the end and everybody was

651
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 10: predicted you go yeah first, you do yeah at the end,

652
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 10: they as at the end got it right and I

653
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Speaker 10: think they ended up a high note, and so I

654
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Speaker 10: think it was well received. I don't think it was

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Speaker 10: the greatest of all combat he means, but it got

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Speaker 10: better obviously as the show went on.

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Speaker 3: First off, I.

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Speaker 2: Got to admit, I'm stunned that want to make love

659
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: in the club was not the anthem of Jason Martin's

660
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Speaker 2: twenties there.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm not sure I ever wanted to hear

662
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: that phrase come out of your mouth there for any reason.

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Speaker 3: I'm just quoting the halftime performance.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, Dan, You're in Vegas, Dan

665
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Speaker 2: Byer joining us Fox Sports Radio. Dan, I think, first

666
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Speaker 2: of all, let me just ask are you on with

667
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: Doug and Cavino and Rich tomorrow?

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00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: You got a busy travel day?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I am. You know, I am gonna sort that

670
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 10: all out. I hope, I hope to be in at

671
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 10: noon tomorrow, but it's all to be it's all to

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Speaker 10: be decided. So I drunk here, guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, I was gonna say that sounded like

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00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: a guy that has on more night in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: But that's not a terrible drive.

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 10: Sorry, guys, guys, what did it say when you stay

677
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 10: to your wife? Hey, I'm thinking about driving back after

678
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 10: the super Bowl and she's like, now just stay there,

679
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 10: Like what is that? Because that's what happened to me,

680
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 10: Like just stay till monday, you know. And then she's

681
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 10: like she's driving the daylight, like she was really concerned

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Speaker 10: about my safety. I think you just wanted to keep

683
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 10: me away along her, but I was gonna say what

684
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 10: it says.

685
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's first of all, it sounds like she cares.

686
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 2: My wife would say the same. Well, whatever you end

687
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: up doing, be safe. But it's an easy drive, you know,

688
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: either late at night or early in the morning. So

689
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: whether you stay late, whether you whether you stay late

690
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: and get up early, or whatever you do, be safe.

691
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Speaker 2: Dan Buyer in Vegas. Dan, we gotta let you go,

692
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: but safe travels. You can hear Dan at twelve Pacific

693
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: three pm Eastern with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Maybe.

695
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: You might have to call from the road. It's okay,

696
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: you want to be probably would to be the first

697
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: person on Fox Sports ready to do a show from

698
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Speaker 2: your car. But anyway, neither here nor there, we gotta go. Dan,

699
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Travel safe, whether you leave tonight or

700
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Speaker 2: first thing in the morning. We look forward to hopefully

701
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Speaker 2: fingers crossed listening to you tomorrow.

702
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan guy. Thanks that that was Dan Bayer.

703
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: You can hear him at three pm Eastern with Doug

704
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: Gottlieb tomorrow. He was live on the scene. Jason, I'll

705
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: tell you what why don't we come back? Will react

706
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Speaker 2: to some of the stuff that Dan said. We want

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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about that halftime performance to

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Speaker 2: usher bringing out some surprise guests.

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Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, I mean I saw it, like I said,

710
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Speaker 4: I did. Let's talk about after the break. But that's

711
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Speaker 4: why I asked him. I just wanted to see how

712
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Speaker 4: the building felt about it, because I mean, I've watched

713
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Speaker 4: a lot of these through the years. When I saw

714
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Speaker 4: of it seemed decent.

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Speaker 3: Decent day. I'll tell you what it sounds like. Dan said,

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Speaker 3: that was kind of the game.

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00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: It was decent for about three quarters and change and

718
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: It became very very good.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss everything next halftime performance, game result. Kansas City

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Speaker 2: remind me of a girl that I once knew. One

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Speaker 2: of the few songs that Usher did not play tonight

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Speaker 2: as stir time performance.

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Speaker 3: I love this song.

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Speaker 2: Usher halftime did eventually bring out Alicia Keys.

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Speaker 4: That's about when I tuned in. Uh, that's that's when

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Speaker 4: I got back to the televisions. When I when Alicia Keys,

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Speaker 4: I think she had already been out there for a

741
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Speaker 4: little while, but I caught the very end of what

742
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 4: she was doing.

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: Ludacris also joined and Little John. What did you make

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Speaker 2: of the halftime performance?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it was pretty well put together

746
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: from what I saw. A few of the just reviews

747
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: that I read said there was something up with the

748
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 4: actual vocals in the first half of it. Maybe he

749
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: was a little bit shaky here and there, and it

750
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: got stronger as it went along. I don't know if

751
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: that was a technical issue or what. I noticed some

752
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: things where a few times you couldn't hear him and

753
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: then he would get back on it. But that was

754
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: good because it me and he wasn't you know, he

755
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: was actually singing. There have been some moments where that

756
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: hasn't been the case, and but I mean, he's obviously

757
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: a world class performer, even though you know, I haven't

758
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: listened to it new as much in recent years, but

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: I certainly have gone through pretty long stretches, especially like

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00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: back when I was in like sixth through eighth grade

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00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: and early in high school when I listened to you know,

762
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: R and B in addition to just tip hop and

763
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And I think Usher came around a

764
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: little bit after I left high school. So again I

765
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: think I missed the moment with some of that. But

766
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Speaker 4: I think the other thing is when you start to

767
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: hear his music, you realize, oh, I just didn't know

768
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: that was you. Like I've heard this many times. I

769
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: just didn't know this was you. But I think that

770
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: I'm probably not the target audience, but I could recognize

771
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: the ability and what I was seeing.

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Speaker 5: You.

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00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: I know you did Usher a lot more and know

774
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: more about him than I do because I remember us

775
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: kind of just we came back from a break months

776
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: ago with Usher, and you mentioned it in that moment,

777
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: So what did you think of it?

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00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't know what I may have

779
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: said in that moment.

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00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: I was never like a huge usher person, but I

781
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: mean I've see there's a couple of songs, especially like

782
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: the the Yeah.

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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think everybody loves them. I mean,

784
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: that's that's one of the great beats.

785
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: That was like peak.

786
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: I was in college, you know, get in trouble doing

787
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: stuff that I shouldn't be talking about here, and uh, yeah, No,

788
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: I thought it was good. I was never like the biggest, biggest,

789
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: biggest usher guy, but I thought he put on a

790
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: good show.

791
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: You know, listen for the ladies.

792
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: The shirt came off, so we had our first nipple

793
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: situation since Janet Jackson.

794
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: So that was something.

795
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: But listen, I you know, the thing that I've realized is,

796
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: whoever is the halftime performer, there are going to be

797
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: people that criticize and say it's the worst thing ever,

798
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: and there are gonna be people that love it.

799
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: I thought overall, it was pretty good.

800
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: I do like over the last couple of years, it

801
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: feels like there's always one or two kind of surprise guests.

802
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: I can't remember everybody from previous years, but I know,

803
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: like last year it was Rihanna and Rihanna brought out.

804
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: A couple of people.

805
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: In the year before it was well it was it

806
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: doctor Dre and M and M and like fifty cent

807
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: came out and it was like, so I thought it

808
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: was I thought it was fun.

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00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it is a little bit my era. I

810
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: did enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it wouldn't be my first choice if I

812
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: was paying to go to a concert, but I thought

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00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: it was a good show. And the one thing I

814
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: will say, and I know this is like super obvious

815
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: and cliche, but like the NFL has just figured out

816
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: how to put on a show, like you could criticize

817
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Goodell and this and that. The whole day really obviously

818
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: the whole week, but the whole day. It's like every

819
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: moment is scripted. The national anthem and the coin toss

820
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: and the this and the that. They had the moment

821
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: before the game for the victims in Hawaii and they

822
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: brought out high school football coaches in Hawaii. I just

823
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: think the whole day is so well done. It's a

824
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Speaker 2: testament to football, a testament to the NFL. And I

825
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: think the halftime performance was you know, kind of proof

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I thought it was a professional I

828
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 4: would just say it's probably middle of the road. I mean,

829
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: I don't think it was anything special, but I would

830
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: need to talk to or hear from somebody who's a

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Speaker 4: giant fan of Usher's music to really be able to

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: say that. I mean, there have been years where I

833
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 4: wasn't the biggest fan of the artists, and I've come

834
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: away with a better impression than I did tonight, and

835
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: sometimes worse impression too, Like I remember Bruno Mars blew

836
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: me Away a handful of years ago. I thought he

837
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: did an awesome job. And I mean there have been

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00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: I think there have been many good ones and very

839
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: few bad ones, at least in recent years. So I

840
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 4: mean I think that you get it's it's not always

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: gonna be your cup of tea. I mean, I'm not

842
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: always gonna get Tom Petty and Heartbreakers, you know, not

843
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: always gonna get Prince Well. I don't know.

844
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna say something about probably not getting prints

845
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: very very often ever again.

846
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: Or Tom Petty, but fortunately.

847
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a good show overall.

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00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 2: I do think like it is, just like I said,

849
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: I just think it makes for a fun just a fun,

850
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: something different and it it's obvious, right, but it brings

851
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: in the entire you know, the family. And my wife

852
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: sat down, she wanted to see it. She called her

853
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: sister or sister not a football fan, so she got

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00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: to see it too. So, uh, Usher had a heck

855
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: of a performance and the Kansas City Chiefs had a

856
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: heck of a performance. Twenty five to twenty two. They

857
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Speaker 2: do win the Super Bowl. We'll come back, Jason. We'll

858
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: discuss more on the Big Game. What's next now for

859
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: San Francisco after another Super Bowl loss?

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: That is right.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our two Torres and Martin, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. It is actually Monday on the East Coast,

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Speaker 2: and we do, in fact have a new Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, a twenty five twenty two overtime win.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes with a touchdown pass with three seconds to

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Speaker 2: go in overtime seals the victory as the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs have now one a second straight Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: the third of the Patrick Mahomes era. We will get

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Speaker 2: back too, we will get back to the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: chief side of things, but Jason, I do want to

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 2: er side of things. Should mention, by the way we

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Speaker 2: should be. So, Jason, I want to talk about the

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00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers, but we should go to

881
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Speaker 2: some sound and I'll tell you why we have been

882
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: questioning for people who were not in front of a TV.

883
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: We're not with friends and family. Once overtime hit, Kyle

884
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Speaker 2: Shanahan and the San Francisco forty nine ers elected to

885
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Speaker 2: take the football. Of course, in that situation, with the

886
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Speaker 2: overtime rules that have been in place for a year

887
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Speaker 2: or so, now a couple of years now, whatever it is,

888
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: two three years, both teams get the football and so

889
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Speaker 2: a lot of people were surprised that San Francisco elected

890
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Speaker 2: to take the football. The thought is, give Kansas City

891
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: the football. Let them, you know, if they kick a

892
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: field goal. Then a field goal ties it. If you

893
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: stop them, then a field goal wins it. And of

894
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: course you know if you have to score a touchdown.

895
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Speaker 2: Here is Kyle Shanahan explaining the decision to take the football.

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Speaker 9: That's just something we talked about with you know that

897
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 9: none of us have a ton of experience of it,

898
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 9: but we went to all the analytics and talk to

899
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 9: those guys and we just thought it'd be better. We

900
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 9: wanted the ball third team's matched and scored. We want

901
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 9: to be the ones who had the chance to go win.

902
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 9: And we got that field goal, so we knew we

903
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 9: had to hold them to at least to a field goal,

904
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Speaker 9: and if if we did, then we thought it was

905
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Speaker 9: in our hands after that.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting.

907
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Speaker 4: I will say that's interesting. Yes, I will.

908
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Speaker 2: Say I do think that's the new thing is when

909
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: when something goes wrong. I mean, you know the analytics,

910
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean we really studied the analytics and they said

911
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: you walk the football third at overtime.

912
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: That's because they're faceless. Like that's that's blaming someone that

913
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: no one knows who is. That's just that's like saying

914
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: the Star Chamber did it like some when you're talking

915
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: about some kind of political espionage or something happening behind

916
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: the scenes, Illuminati, New World Order, that kind of thing.

917
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Speaker 4: It's this faceless, nameless entity. Analytics carries with it a

918
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: certain connotation, but it also carries with it a certain

919
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 4: level of authority. Some people are gonna roll their eyes

920
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: and immediately be like, well, why in the world do

921
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: you listening to them? We don't even know who they are.

922
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 4: They could be the same coaches, they could be your

923
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 4: analytics nerds for all you know.

924
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny.

925
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Speaker 4: You know.

926
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Speaker 2: What it reminds me of is a lot of people

927
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 2: complain about the college football playoff committee. Oh my god,

928
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: this is so bad, and it's like, well, it's not

929
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Speaker 2: worse than when we had PCs computers and nobody acknowledged

930
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: anything like it would just be like, oh, these are

931
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: the two teams that are playing, and nobody really knows

932
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Speaker 2: what goes into the computers, how you get there, what

933
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Speaker 2: the met or whatever, blah blah blah, And that's what

934
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Speaker 2: it kind of felt like. They're well, I mean, the

935
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Speaker 2: analytics say, you know, it's really you got to get

936
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Speaker 2: the ball. Third, let me just ask you, and we're

937
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Speaker 2: listening to this sound in real time. As a matter

938
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Speaker 2: of fact, Mary, do you have that sound available? Can

939
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: you play it one more time? Do you have the

940
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: sound available? Let's play Let's play it one more time.

941
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Speaker 9: That's just something we talked about with you know that

942
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 9: none of us have a ton of experience of it,

943
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 9: But we went to all the analytics and talk to

944
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 9: those guys and we just thought it'd be better. We

945
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 9: wanted the ball third team's matched and scored. We want

946
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 9: to be the ones who had the chance to go win.

947
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 9: And we got that field goal, so we knew we

948
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Speaker 9: had to hold them to at least a field goal

949
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Speaker 9: and if if we did, then we thought it was

950
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Speaker 9: in our hands after that, all.

951
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Speaker 2: Right, So we're listening to this in real time, Jason,

952
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Speaker 2: I think for you, I know for me, it's the

953
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Speaker 2: first and now second time that I've heard that.

954
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense at all?

955
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Speaker 2: Is there is there something that I'm missing because I

956
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: don't know, Like if you get the ball third.

957
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Speaker 4: I mean I get it, because they don't get the

958
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 4: chance to answer a second time. They only get a

959
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: chance to answer the first time. Well, it becomes sudden

960
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: death again after both teams of possessions fair fair, which is,

961
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Speaker 4: which I also think is dumb because it's the same

962
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: problem that you had that you needed to fix in

963
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: the first place, is that you're not giving teams an

964
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Speaker 4: equal opportunity to have to both play offense and defense

965
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Speaker 4: to win. I thought maybe he was going to say,

966
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Speaker 4: similar to what Dan Bayer said to us in the

967
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Speaker 4: last hour, my defense was gassed. I wanted to give

968
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Speaker 4: them a couple of more minutes. I felt like we

969
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: could go out there and set the tone and also

970
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: let them catch their breath. I thought, maybe, just maybe

971
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Speaker 4: that's what he was gonna say, because I think there

972
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Speaker 4: is logic behind that to some degree, at least for

973
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Speaker 4: those that really didn't understand this at all. I also

974
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Speaker 4: thought Romo made a good point about why it's better

975
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Speaker 4: to be the team that goes second in overtime because

976
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Speaker 4: effectively you always have an extra down because no matter

977
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Speaker 4: where you are on the field, you always are in

978
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Speaker 4: four down territory. So as such, it takes a lot

979
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Speaker 4: of the guesswork and questioning out where do I need

980
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Speaker 4: to kick a field goal if I'm first knowing Patrick

981
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Speaker 4: Mahomes as a quarterback coming back on the other side,

982
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Speaker 4: because he may get a touchdown and then we are

983
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Speaker 4: done here. But if I'm Patrick Mahomes coming out on

984
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Speaker 4: the field, I know I've got four downs to get

985
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Speaker 4: ten yards all the way down the field, and if

986
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Speaker 4: need be, I'll do it all the way down the

987
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Speaker 4: field and win the game.

988
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Speaker 2: So then let me ask you, did you you know,

989
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Speaker 2: knowing now what Kyle Shanahan said, did you and I

990
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Speaker 2: think you referenced this with Dan, did you like or

991
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Speaker 2: dislike the decision? And let me just say really quick,

992
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Speaker 2: I you know again, I was driving into the studio

993
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Speaker 2: four over time. I watched the entire regulation and then

994
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Speaker 2: unfortunately had to come not unfortunately. I'm privileged to do

995
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Speaker 2: what I'm doing right now, but couldn't watch overtime until

996
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: the final few plays. I had to listen on radio

997
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Speaker 2: and Kurt Warner, who's great at what he does, and

998
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Speaker 2: this isn't a criticism, he was going after Kyle Shanahan

999
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Speaker 2: like this is this is why I don't understand it.

1000
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

1001
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Speaker 2: I think just I didn't. I just didn't hate it,

1002
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Speaker 2: like I I don't know that I would have made

1003
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Speaker 2: that decision, but I think when you factor in one,

1004
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Speaker 2: if you do score a touchdown, it puts pressure on case,

1005
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Speaker 2: and then two on top of that, as he just said,

1006
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Speaker 2: you get the ball third, it's sudden death, all of

1007
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: a sudden you can win the game with a walk

1008
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Speaker 2: off field goal, walk off touchdown, whatever. I guess in hindsight,

1009
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Speaker 2: I really don't hate the decision at all. It felt

1010
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Speaker 2: in the moment like everybody was critical of it. I

1011
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: don't hate it, especially now that I've heard that logic

1012
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: of if you get the ball third. By the way,

1013
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: if you kick a field goal, you just got to

1014
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 2: keep them out of the end zone. Then you get

1015
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Speaker 2: the ball third, you know, so, so basically you can

1016
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Speaker 2: essentially maybe win it with a with a with a

1017
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Speaker 2: with a field with with with a touchdown.

1018
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Speaker 3: Excuse me.

1019
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: Then if you get a field goal, you're relying on

1020
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: your defense to hold them to a field goal, then

1021
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: you get the ball on sudden death.

1022
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm talking, I'm rambling.

1023
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: It feels to me like now that we're talking about

1024
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Speaker 2: it in real time, I don't don't hate the decision

1025
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Speaker 2: at all.

1026
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually have gone in the other direction where

1027
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: I was feeling better about it until I've stopped and

1028
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 4: thought about it a little bit longer, and the idea

1029
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: of having that extra down if you go second and

1030
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: knowing that you're going to get the possession even if

1031
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: they score a touchdown. See, it's kind of it's easy

1032
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 4: to forget that that rule shifted at least a little

1033
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: bit where at least both teams are going to get

1034
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: to possess the ball. Where I mean, certainly you're not

1035
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: going to defer in sudden death and hand the ball

1036
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: to Kansas City and say if they score a touchdown,

1037
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Speaker 4: is over here. But because that rule was just barely tweaked,

1038
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Speaker 4: you can see it from that perspective. I think that

1039
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: the problem with wanting to go third is you're just

1040
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Speaker 4: assuming you can't win it before a third possession at

1041
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 4: that point. And I don't know that that's what I

1042
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 4: think you need to play. I don't know if you

1043
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: need to play the long game when it comes to that. Well,

1044
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 4: I don't hate it the way you're kind of intimating.

1045
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner hated it, But I do like the idea

1046
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: of being able to go out there and know what

1047
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: I have to do based on what just took place.

1048
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 4: Maybe my defense gets a stop and all I have

1049
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 4: to do is get a field goal range, or maybe

1050
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 4: they held them to three, and I can go tie

1051
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: the game with a field goal, or I can end

1052
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: it with a touchdown, and I can go all the

1053
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Speaker 4: way down the field knowing I have four downs each time.

1054
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess what I would say is if that

1055
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Speaker 2: is I will say that is where the analytic If

1056
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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan is using analytics as a crutch or an

1057
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Speaker 2: excuse or maybe not, that is where I do think

1058
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: it makes sense, right, because if you take the ball first,

1059
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: you score a touchdown, you put the pressure on them.

1060
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: You score a field goal, you still put pressure on them.

1061
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Speaker 3: And if you hold them to either a field goal

1062
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Speaker 3: or whatever.

1063
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Speaker 2: Basically, there are I'm trying to think of how to

1064
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: frame this best there are. I guess what five cinnari

1065
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Speaker 2: and three of them work in your favor?

1066
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Speaker 4: Right?

1067
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Speaker 3: You don't score it all they score. That doesn't work

1068
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Speaker 3: in your favor.

1069
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Speaker 2: You kick a field goal, they kick a field goal,

1070
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Speaker 2: you get the ball back, You score a touchdown, they

1071
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: score a touchdown, you get the ball back, you score

1072
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Speaker 2: a field goal, they score a touchdown, the game's over,

1073
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Speaker 2: you score.

1074
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Speaker 4: You know.

1075
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Speaker 2: Basically, I don't know if that made sense at all

1076
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Speaker 2: the way I spoke it out, but essentially, there are

1077
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Speaker 2: five different scenarios in that case, and three of them

1078
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Speaker 2: get you either win the game or have a chance

1079
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Speaker 2: to win the game in a sudden death situation in overtime.

1080
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Speaker 2: So again I'm not like, like, you know, what do

1081
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: they say caping for Kyle Shanahan, Like, I'm not like,

1082
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Speaker 2: this is absolutely the right decision. But I guess the analytics,

1083
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: I guess now that we're talking it out, I guess

1084
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Speaker 2: the analytics probably do reflect that. Analytically, the percentage of

1085
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: winning that game is probably percentage points better.

1086
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Speaker 3: But I don't know if that makes it the right decision.

1087
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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, especially because and again this is

1088
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Speaker 2: the conversation you and I have had a million times

1089
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Speaker 2: about it analytics, including on Dan Campbell, et cetera, et cetera,

1090
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: is that analytics don't factor in anything, including the fact

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Speaker 2: that if you kick a field goal field goal, excuse me,

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00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: you're giving the ball back to Patrick.

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Speaker 4: Freaking That's the point, like all of what you just said,

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 4: that last thing you just said, that's the crucial factor.

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00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 4: You must put yourself in a position where Patrick Mahomes

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00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: cannot beat you by scoring a touchdown, and that's why

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00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 4: you're if you're playing for third. If you're playing for

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00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: the third possession, you put yourself in a scenario where

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00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: if you don't score a touchdown that first time, you

1100
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 4: were really putting it on your defense. Yes, you kicked

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00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: the field goal and took the lead, but is anybody

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00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 4: even remotely surprised that Patrick Mahomes went down the field

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00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: the way he did, even with the challenges along the

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00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: way on that drive, and ended up scoring a touchdown there.

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00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: I just I feel like I wonder if Kyle Shanahan

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00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: knew when he kicked the field goal we might be

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Speaker 4: done here. The reason why I suggested maybe he would

1108
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 4: talk about the defense being gassed was that's what I

1109
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: saw in the fourth quarter, especially his defense. And then

1110
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: you know, Dan Byer said, both defenses. He's right. You

1111
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 4: started to notice it a little bit with the Chiefs,

1112
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 4: But if you take the ball first, then you're putting

1113
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: their maybe gas defense out there. But your defense just

1114
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 4: played the end of regulation and had to try and

1115
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: fight off a touchdown that would have ended the game.

1116
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 4: You held them to a field goal, but you had

1117
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: to expend a tremendous amount of energy just to get

1118
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: the game into overtime. In the first place, So I'm

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00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: not looking at it from analytics. If I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: it from what can my defense reasonably expect to do

1121
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 4: right now? I might want to let them get a

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00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 4: little bit of oxygen and a little bit of hydration,

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00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 4: especially considering there's gonna be a little bit of a

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00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: break between the end of regulation and the start of overtime.

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00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: Let's give him. Let's give him that extra rest and

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00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: give them a shot. If he had said that, I

1127
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: would have felt better about it. It's the we wanted

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00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 4: the third thing that what if you don't get a third?

1129
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: What if there is no third? And guess what, there

1130
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: wasn't a third. It ended in the second because you

1131
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 4: kicked a field goal and then handed the football back

1132
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 4: to Harry Potter and he wing Guardian Levosa his way

1133
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: to his third Super Bowl.

1134
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: You know one thing we haven't talked about, Jason, and

1135
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: maybe we do it on the other side. Everything that

1136
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: that got us to overtime in the first place, which

1137
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: included a fourth down conversion with a fourth down play attempt,

1138
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: which I didn't even like. But oh, by the way,

1139
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: it's the misp it's the block pat that even got

1140
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: us to overtime in the first place. You talked about

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00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: defenses being gassed whatever it was like that that you know,

1142
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: defense has slash special teams even got us to overtime

1143
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: in the first place. There is so much more to

1144
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: discuss in this game. The Kansas City Chiefs do beat

1145
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers twenty five to twenty two,

1146
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City's third Super Bowl, the Mahomes Era back to back,

1147
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: first time since the Patriots close to two decades ago.

1148
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: Plenty more reaction, a lot to break down. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torres, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: We are taking up till two am Eastern time. Ben

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Speaker 2: Maler will follow us, and we are of course talking

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty eight. The Kansas City Chiefs beat the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine Ers twenty five to twenty two

1159
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: in overtime. Shouldn't mention, by the way, if you like

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Speaker 2: Member f D. I see Jason really quick. Want to

1166
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: ask you what's next for San Francisco?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean we're gonna spend all of hour three and

1169
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: maybe some of this hour as well, talking about the

1170
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: Kansas City side of things. But you look at San Francisco,

1171
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: a second loss in a super Bowl. In the Kyle

1172
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: Shanahan era, Jimmy Garoppolo couldn't get him over the hump.

1173
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: Brock Perdy couldn't today. I think Dan Byer joined us

1174
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: an hour one. I thought his point was well taken.

1175
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Is that pretty much brock perty is exactly who the

1176
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: realistic people thought that he was. He's not Patrick Mahomes,

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00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: but he's also not you know, I won't criticize anybody,

1178
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: but you know he's not the worst quarterback in the league.

1179
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, his own GM, did you can say Zach Wilson.

1180
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: That was the name that was coming to mind, of course,

1181
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: I mean.

1182
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Speaker 4: As GM said, it this week he said, we didn't

1183
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: have a backup quarterback this year.

1184
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: What does that mean, like Sam Darnold.

1185
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 4: Because that's who Zach Wilson was, because he's like the

1186
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 4: thing we had when Aaron went down. We didn't have

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00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: a backup. Okay, and Zach Wilson's still on that roster

1188
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 4: that's his own. That's Woody Johnson saying that, like, if

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00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: I'm Zach Wilson, that's like my grandmama gave me that

1190
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: chain kind of stuff, like you got to go home

1191
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: on that. That's clearly the end of his Jets tenure.

1192
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 4: If you didn't already know that's.

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Speaker 3: I actually did not hear that. I did not know

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00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: that that was said.

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Speaker 4: But I said this week in Vegas, I believe Wow.

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00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: I had not heard that, but so Purty, you know, listen,

1197
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Speaker 2: we don't have to do the Joe Flacco. He's not elite,

1198
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: but perty's not elite. But we kind of knew that

1199
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Speaker 2: coming in. But listen, McCaffrey's about to be twenty eight

1200
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 2: years old for a running back that is that's getting

1201
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: up there. George Kittle's gonna be thirty one by the

1202
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: end of next season. Middle of the of the season

1203
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: really obviously, Trey Greenlaw, I think it. You know, we

1204
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: heard an achilles injury probably to it.

1205
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: It's been revealed now he tore it completely well.

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00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: Not expecting back next year obviously is the you know,

1207
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: it feels react Dictionary, is the window closed? And if not,

1208
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: it feels like this might have been the last. And

1209
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: by the way, it's worth noting and you and I

1210
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: talked about it on our Saturday show Detroit Super Young

1211
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: and they had him on the ropes in San Francisco.

1212
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: Packers are on the come up with Jordan Love Listen.

1213
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: The Cowboys have talent. Will it ever be put together?

1214
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. The Eagles reshaped that coaching staff, brought

1215
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: in some really sharp minds on both sides of the football.

1216
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: You never want to say never, But what do you

1217
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: always say about windows, Jason? They're never as big as

1218
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: you think. I'll give you the floor, but this just

1219
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: feels like it is crippling, not just for the loss tonight,

1220
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: and this feels like this might have been the best

1221
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: shot that they're gonna have for a very foreseeable future.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's very possible. I don't believe

1223
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 4: in windows, you know, that, and I don't believe in

1224
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: windows unless you're winning one right now, because you just

1225
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: don't know what it's going to look like a year

1226
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: from now. You talk about the ages of these guys, well,

1227
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: McCaffrey has dealt with injuries a lot. Now he has

1228
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: it in San Francisco, which is a good thing. Kittle,

1229
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: who got banged up in this game, has been hurt

1230
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Speaker 4: off and on now for a couple of years. And

1231
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: you're right, he's passed thirty. He's and you've got Trey

1232
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 4: Williams has been playing for a long time. You got

1233
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: green Law. Green Law and Warner are as important at

1234
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: the linebacker position as anybody in the National Football League.

1235
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: And if you're going to be missing Drake green Law

1236
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: for the better part of we would think next season.

1237
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: With the achilles injury he suffered running onto the field tonight,

1238
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: that's a big loss for you, and you just start

1239
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: Deepo is another guy that tends to get hurt a lot,

1240
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 4: and he got banged up again and he hasn't been healthy,

1241
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: it feels like, for much of this season, or certainly

1242
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: in the back half of it. So even though they

1243
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 4: came in relatively healthy, we thought they started dropping like

1244
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: flies in this game. I saw the odds at least

1245
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: from at least the ones that popped up on TV

1246
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: have the Niners as a favorite to win it all

1247
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: next year. Interesting. I why are we doing that? Just

1248
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 4: just make this Yeah, I agree with that. We don't

1249
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: don't We don't know what he's see gonna look like.

1250
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: We don't know if guys are gonna retire. We don't

1251
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: know if they're gonna be staff changes. We certainly don't

1252
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: know what the draft is gonna bring. There's no reason

1253
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: to be doing it, but it's not gonna stop anybody

1254
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 4: from doing it. I just think so that when the

1255
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: Eagles lost last year, an Eagles are gonna be a

1256
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: jugg ernaut. What happened a lot, a lot of things changed,

1257
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 4: So I certainly can understand why you would favor them

1258
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 4: to still be a major player in the NFC. But

1259
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: this was a shot because the NFC is getting harder,

1260
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: not easier. They kind of just got through the stretch

1261
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: where the NFC was rather thin. But you mentioned it.

1262
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: The youngest team in the league is green Bay. Then

1263
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: you've got Detroit. We're gonna see where Caleb Williams lands

1264
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: and if it's in Chicago. What's that gonna mean. They

1265
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: certainly were a little ahead of schedule this year outside

1266
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: of Stafford, who's old. But if he's healthy, the Rams

1267
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: are excellent. I mean, you look at Nakua and what

1268
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: that team is capable of doing. Philadelphia is it's probably

1269
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: gonna retool and it's gonna be a big year. They

1270
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 4: got new coordinators coming in. You talk about Dallas, it

1271
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: goes down the line, and it's just hard to get

1272
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: there in the first place. Everything has to fall your way.

1273
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: And I just look at this and it just feels

1274
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 4: like there's no reason for me to think that they're

1275
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 4: just gonna get back, because it seems like every time

1276
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 4: a team loses into Super Bowl. Very rarely, Aaron correct

1277
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong on this, but very rarely do

1278
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: the odds not have them very high up to make

1279
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: a big time run the next year. And usually it's

1280
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 4: the opposite. Usually a lot of things go wrong and

1281
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: they have a very mediocre kind of year. So I'm

1282
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: going to be very I don't know if I call

1283
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: it like down on them, but I'm gonna be slow

1284
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 4: to embrace their ability to get out of the NFC again,

1285
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 4: just because it's so difficult to do, especially after a

1286
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 4: loss and whatever is going to come during this offseason

1287
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 4: and everybody else getting better around you.

1288
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Speaker 2: The term Super Bowl hangover is there for a reason.

1289
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: Only team that you know didn't really even the Chiefs.

1290
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: I guess when they lost to Tampa Bay. They then

1291
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: they then didn't get back to next year.

1292
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 3: Right that was that.

1293
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 4: Was the Bengals.

1294
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I mean the term Super Bowl hangover

1295
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: is for real. And now you start looking out, you know,

1296
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: twenty four full months from now, if you just think, okay,

1297
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: Green Laws banged up whatever, probably not looking very good.

1298
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: And I do think a window probably was missed.

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Speaker 3: Right here.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torres, Jason Martin, we are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studios, a couple angles

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Speaker 2: from the Kansas City Chiefs perspective. I do want to

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Speaker 2: discuss next. Before we do that, let's toss it over

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Speaker 2: the news desk. Brian Fenley.

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Speaker 3: What is trending? My friend?

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01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: You know, JMRD and Aaron.

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Speaker 7: We don't have the official out here for Travis Kelce,

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 7: but word is that he's about sixteen beers deep right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh ah, yeah, I saw them pop in actual shamp

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: I saw actual video of them popping champagne.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. So you know Travis see,

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 7: he doesn't turn down a good party, and he is

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Speaker 7: celebrating after his Chiefs one back to back years a

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01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 7: super Bowl twenty five to twenty two. They did it

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Speaker 7: in overtime against the forty nine Ers, and it came

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Speaker 7: down to the last three seconds in ot when McCole

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Speaker 7: Hardman got the touchdown pass from Patrick Mahomes. By the way, Mahomes,

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Speaker 7: that's his third Super Bowl title and every single one

1320
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Speaker 7: of his Super Bowl titles he's been MVP. So he

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Speaker 7: dominated in large fashion down the stretch. Despite the fact

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Speaker 7: he was sacked three times. He had thirty four completions

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01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 7: for forty six passing attempts and three hundred and thirty

1324
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 7: three yards through the air the two touchdowns, the one interception.

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Speaker 7: Also nine nine runs for sixty six yards, including a

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Speaker 7: long one of twenty two for the forty nine ers

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Speaker 7: and their passing game, Will rock perty two fifty five

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 7: managing that and that would be his yards through the

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Speaker 7: air twenty three completions in that one touchdown in one sack.

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey twenty two carries eighty yards. We did see

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Speaker 7: some pretty impressive field goals from Harrison Butker, including a

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01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 7: fifty seven yarder that is a Super Bowl record that

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Speaker 7: he set, which actually superseded the fifty five yarder he

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Speaker 7: had in this game as well.

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Speaker 4: Which that Moody had in the game.

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Speaker 7: Excuse me, Moody, Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Moody had in

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 7: the game. So a bunch of field goals early and

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 7: then down the stretch it was a touchdown from Holmes

1339
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 7: over to Hardman to get it done. After the game,

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Speaker 7: Travis Kelsey had this to say and certainly was showing

1341
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 7: off his humble side.

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Speaker 10: Never down, in my mind, we knew when they had

1343
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 10: to kick a field goal that.

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Speaker 5: It was on us.

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Speaker 10: We got the best quarterback in the league, we had

1346
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 10: the best offensive mine in the league, and we got

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 10: the most determination any team in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You saw all of that.

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Speaker 3: Today, real quick friendly.

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Speaker 2: That kind of proves the point that jmart was making

1351
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: earlier in the hour. Hypothetically, the analytics probably makes sense

1352
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: to take the ball because in theory, if it's tied

1353
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: after the first possession, it's then sudden death and you

1354
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: have a chance to win it outright but the analytics

1355
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: don't account for the fact that Patrick freaking Mahomes has

1356
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: the ball, as Travis Kelsey just referenced.

1357
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is somebody that you cannot qualify in

1358
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 7: the normal scheme of things when it comes to the numbers,

1359
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 7: no question about it, Aaron. And then lastly here, as

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Speaker 7: far as Travis Kelcey spoke a big game when it

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 7: came to his play on the field, but certainly didn't

1362
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 7: show off the game afterwards in the sense that he

1363
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 7: did not propose. A lot of people were wondering if

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Speaker 7: he was going to propose to Taylor Swift, and I

1365
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 7: think nerves got to him at that point, so he

1366
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 7: decided not to. But Swift did whisper a few things

1367
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Speaker 7: into his ear, and who knows what that was all about.

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Speaker 7: As far as Andy Raid, it seems as if the

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Speaker 7: Chief Send coach is coming back next year as his owner.

1370
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 7: The team's owner, Clark Hunt told NFL Network that he

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Speaker 7: expects Reed back and one more thing before I get

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Speaker 7: it right back to you, Jason and Aaron, we did

1373
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 7: see Travis Kelsey in this game shove on the sideline,

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Speaker 7: Andy Reid.

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid then was.

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Speaker 7: Asked about it in the postgame press conference and said

1377
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 7: that essentially, Kelsey was just coming over to say, just

1378
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 7: put me in, I'll score. I'm not sure as I

1379
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 7: sent it back to Jmarin and Aaron that that's exactly

1380
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 7: what happened, but I feel like he's covering for his

1381
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 7: player because it seemed a little bit more aggressive than

1382
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Speaker 7: just saying something like that.

1383
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Speaker 3: Well, Fenley, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday into Monday air Tours

1385
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Matter of fact, bursche.

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Speaker 4: Actually wait a second, real quick, just because Finley said it,

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to forget it, right. I was listening

1389
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 4: to another interview with Andy Reid on television during one

1390
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: of our commercial breaks, and he basically repeated that he

1391
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 4: said Kelsey just wants to be in a game. He

1392
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 4: says he gets Kelsey more than anybody on the team

1393
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: and that Kelsey makes him feel young, which means they

1394
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 4: probably go at it here and there, but there's some

1395
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: respect there. And I think he even said that Travis

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: also came over and to apologize to him a little

1397
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 4: bit later for just kind of getting a little bit

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Speaker 4: more aggressive with that. The second thing I wanted to

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Speaker 4: mention just because you mentioned it last hour. You probably

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Speaker 4: haven't heard this yet. When we were talking to Dan Byer,

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01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: you were talking about that Christmas Day game YEP against

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Speaker 4: the Raiders. Well, he was asked about that. Andy Reid

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01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: was asked about that in this television interview I was watching,

1404
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: and he said, you know, he actually texted Antonio Pierce

1405
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: a couple of days ago during Super Bowl Week congratulating

1406
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 4: him on getting the gig. You know, their friends. He's

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 4: really happy for him all this, and then he said

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 4: thanks for the kicking the butt. He said, that was

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01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: the day where we all came together and said, if

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 4: we're gonna do something, we better do it right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because before the game, you know, there

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Speaker 2: were hours of pregame coverage. And I'm not gonna lie

1413
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: and say I sat there and watched every single minute

1414
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: of it. But I happen to be in front of

1415
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Speaker 2: a TV when Andy Reid did a sit down with

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01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: Bill Kauer and they did the you know, the old

1417
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: coach talks to the current coach and oh man, and

1418
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: they actually kind of actually addressed a couple things, including retirement,

1419
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: where you know, Bill Cower gave the cliche, I mean,

1420
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: I haven't lost a game in eighteen years.

1421
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: It's a great gig if you could get it.

1422
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: But one Andy Reid basically said I love doing this,

1423
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: and based on that conversation, there was no real reflection

1424
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Speaker 2: that he plans on retiring. He basically said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I've always been told when you know, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know yet. But then two he actually said

1427
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Speaker 2: the exact same thing. He said the Raiders game was

1428
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: the moment in time where we all kind of came

1429
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: together and exactly what you just said was where we

1430
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: did all come together and basically said, if we're gonna

1431
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Speaker 2: do this, it has to change now. By the way,

1432
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: it sort of has to do it tonight, but it

1433
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: sort of doesn't. Let's give Andy Reid ton of credit, man,

1434
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: because you know, we think of him as this offensive savant.

1435
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: We think of everything that he's done with Patrick Mahomes

1436
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: and Donald McNabb whatever. These were the scores of their

1437
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: playoff games twenty five twenty two tonight in overtime, seventeen

1438
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: to ten against Baltimore, twenty seven to twenty four against Buffalo,

1439
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 2: and twenty six to seven against the Miami Dolphins. Zero

1440
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: points in the second half allowed to the Buffalo Bills.

1441
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 2: Excuse me, seven points on the opening possession. Done after that,

1442
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: three after halftime against the Baltimore Ravens. And then the

1443
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: defense was again phenomenal tonight. And we talked about this

1444
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: a little bit on our Saturday show, Jason, But like

1445
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: part of coaching isn't walking in the door and saying

1446
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: this is what we do, this is our scheme, this

1447
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: is our this, this is our that. And the reference

1448
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: that I used on our show last night was the

1449
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: idea that Nick Saban in college football basically just scrapped

1450
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 2: everything that he thought he was gonna do. They relied

1451
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: on the defense, the run game, running the ball with

1452
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: their quarterback, and it led them to an secchampionship. I

1453
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: bring it full circle to say, Andy Reid, I think

1454
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: you can argue this is his best coaching job given

1455
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,959
Speaker 2: the fact that they don't have those big play receivers.

1456
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: The offense isn't what it once was. And he said

1457
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: this also with Bill Kawer earlier in the day, is

1458
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: that the Christmas Day game was where they realized what

1459
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: we have done in the past isn't what we're going

1460
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 2: to be successful doing going forward. So I threw a

1461
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: lot at you, but I think one, it does seem

1462
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: like that Christmas Day loss was a turning point at

1463
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 2: home against the against the Las Vegas Raiders. But then

1464
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: two also just a ton of credit to Andy Reid

1465
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: because of the way that they really retooled this team

1466
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: on the fly.

1467
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is a lot of truth to this,

1468
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 4: maybe being Reid's magnum opus as a head coach, because

1469
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 4: there was this one was more difficult to get and

1470
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 4: looked a lot more uncertain. I mean, think about it today.

1471
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Speaker 4: In this game, Mahomes had to rely on mc coole

1472
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 4: Hardman as well as Marcos Valdez Scantling to make big

1473
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 4: time crucial plays. It wasn't all Kelsey. Mean, Kelsey ended

1474
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: up with ninety three yards, but for a lot of

1475
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 4: this game you only had one yard. He called himself

1476
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 4: a Jebbroni in a postgame interview as a matter of fact,

1477
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 4: just kind of joking about just being ineffective in the

1478
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 4: first half of the game. It wasn't you know, you

1479
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: don't have Tyreek Hill. You have lost some some of

1480
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 4: that mojo and you're relying on younger guys Rashi Rice

1481
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 4: and guys like that. But the scheme works, and if

1482
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 4: you are not so stubborn and you're willing to evolve

1483
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 4: with the times, like Saban did when he went from

1484
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 4: game management quarterbacks to guys that were winging it and

1485
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 4: Alabama teams that needed to score fifty to win, because

1486
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 4: the defense just wasn't going to be able to stand

1487
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 4: up on a regular basis against the Joe Burrows of

1488
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 4: the world. You know, he was still able to succeed

1489
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 4: after the fact. When you look at Reed, we knew ultimately,

1490
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 4: and I think this is true. If you give Andy

1491
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 4: Reid a defense and you give him the opportunity to

1492
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: beat you, he's probably gonna be able to beat you

1493
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 4: because he's just that good. He's one of the greatest

1494
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 4: offensive minds in the history of football. And you saw

1495
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: it again on display, and he's got the perfect virtuoso

1496
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: to run that. He can be the puppet master or

1497
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. But Mahomes is just

1498
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 4: the guy. He knows that whatever he comes up with,

1499
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes can execute better than anybody else. And so

1500
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: when you get down to it, the defense gave him

1501
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: a shot. They held San Francisco to the field goal,

1502
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: and then it was, oh, well, now it's just me

1503
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 4: and Pat. It's me and Pat. And then down the field,

1504
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes are here and there with a run, a

1505
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 4: throw to Kelsey making guys. Just all of a sudden,

1506
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 4: it just looked like San Francisco had no answers on

1507
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 4: crucial spots. They even got that Baldez Scantling had that

1508
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 4: play where he went backwards and lost like six yards

1509
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 4: and what would have been a second and eight became

1510
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: a second and fourteen. Mahomes still ends up converting it

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Speaker 4: and they win the game. I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, like Andy Reid, Andy Reid gets a

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 4: lot of credit, and he deserves to get a lot

1514
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 4: of credit. Ye're in and year out because he is

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01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 4: something truly special in this league.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Aeron Torres, Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: we are taking you up till two a m.

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Speaker 3: Eastern time. Will come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll hit on a couple different angles on the Kansas

1520
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Speaker 2: City Chiefs, which have won their third Super Bowl title

1521
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: of the Mahomes era, twenty five to twenty two in

1522
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: overtime walk off touchdown three seconds left. Mahomes to Mikole

1523
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Speaker 2: Hardman will discuss it all next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Ertorres

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01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreq dot com Studios.

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty eight is in the books. Kansas City

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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs are your champions. They win in overtime. Twenty five

1533
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: to twenty two is the final score, as they win

1534
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: on the walkoff touchdown pass. San Francisco gets the ball

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: to start overtime. San Francisco settles on a field goal

1536
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: from their Kansas City drives the length of the field.

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: They score with three seconds left in overtime to win.

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 2: By the way, interesting little quirk there, Jason, which I

1539
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 2: did not know. I'm glad you explained it earlier. Had

1540
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: Kansas City still had the ball in the clock run out,

1541
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: we would have gone to a second overtime. It wasn't

1542
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: like the end of the fourth quarter, basically like they

1543
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 2: would have kept.

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 4: That drive was gonna end. No matter what, they were

1545
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 4: just gonna change ends.

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: Yes, so San Francisco does not win, obviously. We talked

1547
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: about them a minute ago really quick. By the way,

1548
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: it is worth noting Jason coming into this game, and

1549
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: you and I talked about a little bit on our

1550
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: Saturday show. There was a lot of conversation about is

1551
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: this the end for Travis Kelcey. He did say on

1552
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: the podium after the victory, among many things, he said,

1553
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: look forward to coming back and getting three in a

1554
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: row next year. I think I know the answer here, Jason,

1555
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: but I'm guessing you are not surprised at all by

1556
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 2: Patrick by Travis Kelcey making that statement.

1557
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 4: No, and you're right. We talked about it last night,

1558
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 4: and I just feel like the band's gonna be there.

1559
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 4: I mean, those three guys, I'm not saying they were

1560
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: right off in the sunset together because their ages just

1561
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 4: isn't gonna dictate that mahomes will will extend probably past

1562
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 4: both of them, I would think, depending on health, of course.

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: But why would you leave if you're Travis kelcey unless

1564
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 4: you just don't want to play anymore. You're still even

1565
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 4: after your worst season, you're still great. You're gonna walk

1566
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame no matter what at this

1567
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 4: point in time, barring some massive crime, like in real

1568
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 4: life kind of crime that would keep you out. Andy

1569
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: Reid kind of the same way. I mean, you've got

1570
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and Travis. Just like Andy Reid has Patrick Mahomes,

1571
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey has Patrick Mahomes too. They're great friends. The

1572
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 4: chemistry is undeniable. I mean, it's I already saw this

1573
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 4: kind of going up there. But when you're talking dynasties

1574
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 4: and this is twenty years since the Patriots won their

1575
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 4: back to back, well, if you want to look at

1576
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 4: Brady Mahomes, look at Kelsey and Gronk, and look at

1577
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 4: Belichick and Reid and the success that they've had, even

1578
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 4: though they're not similar really in personalities, even though they're

1579
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 4: both kind of dry that I think they're viewed in

1580
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: vastly different ways. But there's just there's guys that are

1581
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: running buddies on the floor that you just don't see

1582
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 4: or don't even really want to see broken up. I

1583
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 4: just don't think if you're Travis Kelcey, you want to

1584
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 4: leave this situation until you just can't play anymore or

1585
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 4: you just don't want to. And I don't see anything

1586
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 4: in Travis Kelcey and his competitive streak that would indicate

1587
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 4: to me that he is ready to hang it up.

1588
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, obviously it goes without saying. You're

1589
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: winning at a really high level and that makes it easier.

1590
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: And that was my takeaway with Andy Reid as well,

1591
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: And again he said it in the pregame interview with

1592
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 2: Bill Cower. There was no real indication that he was

1593
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: gonna step away. I don't know where that all came from,

1594
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: but like I've been saying for weeks now, is like

1595
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's probably been waiting his whole career to

1596
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: get his hands on a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes. To

1597
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: step away doesn't really make sense to me. By the way,

1598
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: we Fentley mentioned it about fifteen twenty minutes ago. Did

1599
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: you have any big take on the Travis Kelcey kind

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: of storming, Andy Reid? For people who missed it, you've

1601
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: probably seen the highlight, but I believe it was like

1602
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: late first quarter, early second Patrick Mahomes throws a deep pass,

1603
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: gets Kansas City in the red zone, give the ball

1604
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: to Isaiah Pacheco.

1605
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: He fumbles turnover.

1606
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: Obviously, from there, San Francisco takes over and the TV

1607
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 2: cuts cuts to Travis Kelcey basically storming Andy Reid basically saying,

1608
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: do not take me off the field. And I assume

1609
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: it was because of blocking or whatever, but Travis, Travis Ree,

1610
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey was clearly not very happy with that situation.

1611
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: It was we do have the sound of Travis Kelcey

1612
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: actually discussing this go ahead.

1613
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 10: When you and Andy Reid had that what I call

1614
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 10: a very engaging conversation.

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 1: Oh, y'all, guys saw you guys saw that. What was

1616
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,520
Speaker 1: the conversations?

1617
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 4: I mean, was it, Hey, I need the ball, I

1618
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 4: can help us win. What was that about? Uh?

1619
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 6: Man, it was I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it between

1620
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 6: us unless my micd up tells the world.

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: But uh, I was just telling him how much I

1622
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 3: love him. I I don't think he was saying that that.

1623
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: That sound sounds like it was courtesy of ESPN Chris

1624
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: Berman and Chris Berman and Booger McFarland on the field

1625
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 2: after the game. Did you have any issue with with

1626
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: with what Travis Kelsey.

1627
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 4: Did, Jays, I me an issue with it. I mean

1628
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 4: it wasn't the most professional thing I've ever seen, but

1629
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 4: it was also a very passionate guy who sometimes borders

1630
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 4: on cocky and air again or oftentimes does, which is

1631
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 4: why he is polarizing, which is why he's perfect in

1632
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 4: this Taylor Swift scenario, because he does have some villainy

1633
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 4: in him to a lot of people. If you don't

1634
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: like the Chiefs, you probably can't stand Travis Kelce. That's

1635
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 4: just I think that's that's pretty clear at this stage.

1636
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 4: So I think emotions get the better of him when

1637
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 4: they were struggling le Jerry Snead had an incident also

1638
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 4: where he lost his cool pretty soon right after that.

1639
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 4: I think that one was on the field, and those

1640
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 4: are two, you know, all world players for you, they

1641
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 4: kind of lost it. We even saw Mahomes lose it

1642
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 4: earlier this year, not in this game, but we earlier

1643
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 4: this year towards the end of the game on the

1644
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 4: Kadarius Tony situation. So you look at all of that.

1645
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 4: I just think it was an emotional, passionate moment, and

1646
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 4: I do think they were gripping a bit. One of

1647
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 4: the notes that I wrote down about the game as

1648
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 4: I was watching it was that especially in that first quarter,

1649
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: both teams seem to be moving too fast for their

1650
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,839
Speaker 4: own good. It just there was just a few frantic

1651
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 4: kind of not desperation. It was just like they had

1652
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 4: they'd had one too many Celsius energy drinks or something

1653
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 4: before they came on the field, had had a couple

1654
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 4: of red bulls, and then went out there. They needed

1655
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 4: to slow down. They were just a little bit too

1656
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 4: hyped up. And I think that's a factor in your

1657
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 4: emotions getting a better of you in that standpoint. So

1658
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: I kind of can't give it too much more than

1659
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: a shoulder shrug because it was two guys that know

1660
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 4: each other well that have also won a whole lot.

1661
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 4: Andy Reid is so likable and Travis Kelce can be

1662
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 4: so not especially for some people. I think it gets

1663
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 4: magnified more. But we've seen Brady yell at people. We've

1664
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 4: seen Aaron Rodgers yell at people. We've seen a lot

1665
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 4: of this happened in the past. I just think this

1666
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 4: goes with the territory of alpha males doing alpha male

1667
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 4: things in the biggest spot in their lives.

1668
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: Alpha males doing alpha male things. I actually happen to agree.

1669
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 2: I I can't get worked up about it. You know,

1670
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: this is sports. Travis Kelce is emotional. This is Fox

1671
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: we do have a final in Las Vegas. Shortly before

1681
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Speaker 2: Jason Martin and I came on air at eleven pm

1682
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: Eastern time. The Kansas City Chiefs do beat the San

1683
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers twenty five twenty two in overtime.

1684
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: A Patrick Mahomes walk off touchdown with three seconds left

1685
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: in overtime seals the win. Pass was to Mikole Hardman,

1686
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City with its third Super Bowl win of the

1687
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: Mahomes era. Jason, you know, let's lead with what I

1688
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: I just think it's the biggest story is the Kansas

1689
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: City chief side of things. And I just keep going

1690
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: back and we kind of finished the bottom of the

1691
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: hour with this concept. But where this team was on

1692
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 2: Christmas Day, We're talking less than two calendar months ago,

1693
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: where they lose at home to the Las Vegas Raiders.

1694
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: At that point, it's almost certain that they're gonna have

1695
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: to go on the road for the first time in

1696
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs of this ear. At that point, it wasn't

1697
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: even certain they were gonna win the AFC West, but

1698
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: at the very least you knew they were gonna have

1699
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: to go on the road in the playoffs. They were

1700
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: nine and six Jason after that loss, and so you

1701
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: look at where that team was, and you look at

1702
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: the fact that they still ended up hoisting that Vince

1703
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year. We asked

1704
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: Dan Bayer about this an hour one. Dan Byer was

1705
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. I think there's thirty one fan bases

1706
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: and franchises that are just shaking their heads saying, if

1707
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: we could not get the Kansas City Chiefs this year,

1708
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't know when we're supposed to.

1709
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 4: So two hundred and eighty five games were played since

1710
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 4: the last time that Kansas City won a Super Bowl.

1711
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 4: So we had two hundred and eighty five new sets

1712
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 4: of data to look at and evaluate to determine new

1713
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 4: things that we now know that we didn't know before.

1714
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 4: At the end of those two hundred and eighty five games,

1715
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 4: nothing has changed, absolutely nothing. This was not the best

1716
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 4: Chiefs team. It was certainly not the best team in

1717
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 4: the NFL, just from pure roster construction and certainly what

1718
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: we saw. But it doesn't matter. And I think that's

1719
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 4: the takeaway that you have to pull here, especially when

1720
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,839
Speaker 4: you added Andy Reid into the mix of this. Patrick

1721
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 4: Mahomes is just better than whoever you like. He just is.

1722
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: He's better than Josh Allen, He's better than Justin Herbert.

1723
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: He's better than all these And honestly, I think you

1724
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: got to start looking at Joe Burrow and saying the

1725
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 4: same thing too, even though Burrow has gotten the better

1726
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 4: of him, because he didn't get hurt the way Burrow

1727
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: gets hurt, and that needs to be discussed going forward.

1728
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 4: Burrow missed a lot of time again, and they were

1729
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 4: having an up and down year, but it doesn't matter

1730
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 4: regular season, and then you end up and you win

1731
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 4: the championship. Anyway, even on Christmas, we're like, oh, this

1732
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 4: team's dead, but they've got fifteen, and as long as

1733
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 4: you've got that guy, you've got a chance. And you

1734
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 4: add to that. I heard Ryan Clark say that Steve

1735
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 4: Spagnolo is the best big game defensive coordinator of this generation,

1736
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 4: and he proved it again. His defense this year stood up,

1737
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: stepped up. You had some guys out there making plays.

1738
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 4: Outside of Chris Jones and Carl Loftis, I mean, you

1739
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 4: had guys on the back end. Their corners were outstanding

1740
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 4: all year long. Their defense got them to this point.

1741
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 4: They were defensive lead. But we all still knew in

1742
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 4: the back of our heads, we knew who the best

1743
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 4: player in the world was. With all due respect to

1744
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson or anybody else that you want to talk about,

1745
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 4: it's his league. And we saw it again when it

1746
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 4: came down to it. When the brass tacks were in

1747
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 4: the ground. Patrick Mahomes was better than whoever it was

1748
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 4: that was on the other side. He was better than

1749
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 4: the defense that he was facing, and he was better

1750
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 4: than the opposition's quarterback. And as such, it didn't matter

1751
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 4: when it came down to two offensive geniuses in Kyle

1752
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 4: Shanahan and Andy Reid matching up for the second time,

1753
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,879
Speaker 4: it still goes to Patrick Mahomes because he's just different.

1754
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 4: It's just different. I don't know, that's not It doesn't

1755
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 4: take a huge sports brain to know it. You just

1756
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 4: you look at it, you watch it. You have functioning eyeballs,

1757
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: you have a brain that works. You know watching Patrick

1758
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 4: Mahomes that it's just different with him.

1759
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: Well, and it's interesting because and we've referenced this, but

1760
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: for the third time in the Super wasn't great early Now,

1761
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he wasn't great, It's just the offensive

1762
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: line wasn't blocking. He was getting hit a lot, this

1763
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: and that, but he delivers at the end when it matters.

1764
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm actually, you know, I want to get back to

1765
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Mahomes in a minute, but before I do, what do

1766
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 2: you think Kyle Shanahan's thinking right now? I mean, second,

1767
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: you know, second crushing super Bowl loss, second super Bowl

1768
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: that you had a chance in the fourth quarter and

1769
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: in overtime to win. You don't have fifteen. You don't

1770
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 2: have anything comparable to him. And I know it's not

1771
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: at the front of his mind, but we talked about

1772
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: it in an hour. Two older roster Christian McCaffrey is

1773
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 2: going to be twenty eight years old this year. That's

1774
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: ancient for a quarterback or for a running back. Excuse me,

1775
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: especially with the number of hits that he's taken his

1776
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 2: injury history. George Kittle's going to be thirty one next season.

1777
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: Dray Greenlaw, it seems almost certain will be out all

1778
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 2: of next season. I know that that's not the stuff

1779
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: that's on the tip of his mind. But a second

1780
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl loss as a head coach obviously number three

1781
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 2: if you include when he was an offensive coordinator with

1782
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. It was right there for the taking,

1783
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, largely dominated the first half.

1784
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 3: Yes, didn't have much to show for it. What do

1785
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: you think he's thinking right now?

1786
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 4: All right, So it's ten to three. I'm just gonna

1787
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 4: read this to you directly. I sent you this text

1788
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 4: message in real time after I kind of looked it up.

1789
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 4: I wanted to see exactly how big the discrepancy was

1790
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 4: between run pass at this stage. So it's ten to

1791
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 4: three after the interception from Mahomes, which is exactly what

1792
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 4: you want if you are San Francisco. They go three

1793
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 4: and out on three consecutive drives. Here's what they do

1794
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 4: first and ten party incomplete short right second ten penalty,

1795
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 4: so second and fifteen, Party incomplete short left. Third down,

1796
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 4: rock Party scrambles for four yards. They punt, so that's

1797
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 4: the first possession. Second possession, Party short right for negative

1798
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 4: eight yards. Purdy passed short left to McCaffrey okay for

1799
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 4: seven yards. Third down and eleven Purty pass incomplete deep

1800
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 4: left George Kittle, and that was the play Debo got

1801
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 4: injured on where he left the field. They punted the

1802
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 4: ball again third time around first and ten. Hey, look

1803
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 4: at this McCaffrey up the middle and then second down

1804
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: and ten because Purdy actually got no game there. Perty incomplete,

1805
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 4: short left, pretty incomplete, deep middle. Party threw eleven passes

1806
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 4: in the second half and McCaffrey had one touch. There

1807
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 4: was one place where Kansas City's defense was exploitable by

1808
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 4: the numbers entering the game, and it was against the run.

1809
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 4: What was the thing that we talked about coming out

1810
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 4: of the AFC Championship game as it related to the

1811
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens got away from what they did.

1812
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 4: They started throwing the ball even more. They didn't try

1813
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 4: to run it, they didn't try to take advantage in

1814
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 4: that case, when you've got the lead and you're in

1815
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 4: the third quarter, I gotta look at Kyle Shanahan and say,

1816
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 4: why are you throwing the football so much when you

1817
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 4: have Christian McCaffrey, who, Yeah, he wasn't turning big yards yet,

1818
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 4: but I'm I'm gonna hand it to him because I

1819
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 4: know he's the best player on my offense. He's he's

1820
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 4: I heard Colin Coward say this early last week. He's right.

1821
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 4: He was the second best player in the Super Bowl.

1822
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 4: You have Mahomes and then you had Christian McCaffrey, and

1823
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 4: McCaffrey's on a milk carton to open the third quarter,

1824
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 4: and you go three straight three and outs where he

1825
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 4: touches the football twice, once on a pass and once

1826
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 4: on a first down carry. To me, that is questionable

1827
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 4: if you want to point any kind of finger at

1828
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:45,520
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan.

1829
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: Well, and I heard Nick Wright from from Fox from

1830
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: FS one, excuse me say this throughout the week or

1831
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: really the last two weeks.

1832
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 3: Is I truly believe and this is.

1833
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: What Nick said, but I agree with him, is that

1834
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: just the threat of Mahomes makes smart people act dumb.

1835
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is go back to

1836
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game, a stat that has been discussed

1837
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: time and time again, but it's worth noting. They try

1838
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: to turn Lamar Jackson into you know, air corial or whatever.

1839
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 2: I mean, what was it six rushing attempts by anyone

1840
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: other than Lamar Jackson when that was not their game

1841
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: all year tonight you go away from Christian McCaffrey for

1842
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: huge stretches in that game and try to turn Brock

1843
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Purdy into something that he's not. And these things are

1844
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: happening when you either you being the opposition of the

1845
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, have the lead or you're only trailing

1846
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 2: by a possession. I mean that the Baltimore Ravens lost

1847
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: seventeen to ten in the AFC Championship Game. It's not

1848
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 2: like they were down twenty four to seven like the

1849
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine. That's the irony, right is the

1850
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: forty nine ers in the NFC champions Game were down

1851
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. They stuck to the game plan,

1852
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 2: they stuck to the blueprint. They ran the football. They

1853
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: did force some turnovers, which you know, you could say,

1854
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: is it luck, is it whatever, but they stayed true

1855
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: to who they were. And I don't know if it

1856
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 2: was the Super Bowl, in the AFC Championship Game, the whatever,

1857
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: or if it really is the threat of Patrick Mahomes

1858
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: of if we run the football and we get behind

1859
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 2: the chains and then we gotta throw, and then we

1860
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: gotta punt and we gotta give the ball right back

1861
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: to whatever it is. It appears as though the Chiefs

1862
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: made some of these smartest offensive minds in the sport,

1863
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. And we've been told Tom Munkin's been awesome

1864
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 2: all year, and he has been awesome all year for

1865
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, and they just freeze and they go

1866
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: away from what has made them successful. And in the

1867
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: case of the San Francisco forty nine ers, you're going

1868
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: away from your most dynamic playmaker, as you just said,

1869
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 2: the guy that you want the ball in his hands

1870
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: in Christian McCaffrey.

1871
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the other thing is this, It would seem

1872
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 4: to me, I'm no analytics nerd. Math is not a

1873
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 4: thing for me. I like to talk and I like

1874
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 4: to write. I'm not as big on the numbers. That's

1875
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 4: my wife. It would seem to me, though, optimal to

1876
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 4: keep the ball out of Patrick Mahomes' hands as often

1877
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 4: as possible in a Super Bowl or in any football

1878
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 4: game in which I'm playing against him. So what's the

1879
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 4: best way to ensure that, or at least it's gonna

1880
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 4: give you the highest percentage chance to get that done.

1881
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 4: Run run the football, especially with a guy who, yes,

1882
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 4: I know he fumbled in this game, but it had

1883
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: been like four hundred some carries since he did that,

1884
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 4: and it was poked out early in the game. I'm

1885
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 4: just gonna keep handed it to Christian McCaffrey and make

1886
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 4: them stop it because I like my chances there a

1887
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,759
Speaker 4: lot more than Brock Perdy, who, even though he played

1888
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 4: okay in the first half and at one point I

1889
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 4: think he was nine to ten throwing the football, it

1890
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 4: was just kind of it was certainly not gold. It

1891
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 4: was middle of the road, kind of average, like he's

1892
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 4: doing some okay stuff. But a lot of these balls

1893
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 4: look like wounded ducks. There is not really a tight

1894
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 4: spiral here. I don't see a lot of velocity behind

1895
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 4: some of these throws. I'm just gonna run the ball

1896
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 4: a little bit more in the third quarter so that

1897
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 4: I can shorten the game and not give as The

1898
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 4: Chiefs ended up with six possessions in the second half,

1899
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 4: the last four of them Kansas City scored. And there's

1900
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 4: no reason to believe that a lot of that is

1901
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 4: not clutch gen clutch factor of Patrick Mahomes and to

1902
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 4: be there and I've been there moment as well as

1903
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 4: your defense getting gas because they're out there so much

1904
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 4: because you're going three and out and handing it back.

1905
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 4: That was always That's why I would have hated playing

1906
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 4: defense for Chip Kelly's Oregon, you know, twelve years ago

1907
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 4: or some of these high powered offenses that we've seen

1908
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 4: in college football, is you'd be absolutely exhausted. I wouldn't

1909
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 4: need an oxygen tank on the sidelines by the third quarter.

1910
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 4: Just even if they're scoring, they're scoring two quickly. So

1911
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 4: I think you lengthened the game and gave Patrick Mahomes

1912
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 4: extra chances to find his groove, and once he finds

1913
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 4: his groove, you're done well.

1914
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: And you know, this is a very random poll by me,

1915
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 2: But when you were talking about the you know, keeping

1916
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes off the field thing, Kyle Shanahan was either

1917
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 2: in his own head or just refused to run the

1918
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 2: football when he had the chance Todd munkin last week,

1919
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 2: and you know what I thought back to Jason, I

1920
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this, but the two eighteen

1921
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game that was the first run with Mahomes

1922
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 2: when Brady and Belichick to go to Arrowhead in the

1923
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: NFC in the AFC Championship game.

1924
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, ye yeah, and overtime, the overtime game.

1925
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Right, overtime game. I'm looking at it now in a

1926
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: what would that be a forty five minute game? Well,

1927
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: forty three and a half minutes, because obviously New England scored.

1928
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:03,799
Speaker 2: They possessed the for forty three minutes and fifty nine seconds,

1929
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs twenty minutes and fifty three seconds.

1930
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: So Bill Belichick with the greatest quarterback, although maybe we'll

1931
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 2: discuss that on the other side of the break. You know,

1932
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: the greatest quarterback ever in Tom Brady basically said I

1933
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: ain't letting you do nothing but hand this off. Now,

1934
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: he ended up throwing it quite a bit. I guess

1935
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: now that I'm looking at the box score, but I

1936
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 2: just bring it up to say, a forty three point

1937
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 2: fifty nine to twenty fifty three time of possession again,

1938
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm dating myself back to the twenty eighteen AFC Championship Game,

1939
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: but I just remember that being a thing.

1940
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 3: It was the first year of Mahomes.

1941
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: He wins the MVP, fifty touchdown passes, all that, and

1942
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick just said, we're not letting you beat us,

1943
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: and we're not giving you the ball, and we're not

1944
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: letting you do whatever it is that you do.

1945
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 3: And that is the best example yet of doing that.

1946
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 2: And frankly, again, I think Kyle Shanahan just got in

1947
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 2: his own head, because.

1948
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 3: It's just it.

1949
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:02,759
Speaker 2: I don't he got in his own head, The Ravens

1950
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 2: got in their own head, the Bills got in their

1951
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 2: own head. It just felt like everybody got away from

1952
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 2: what they do best.

1953
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's absolutely right. And that's why there's

1954
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 4: a two pronged assault to playing against somebody like k

1955
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,759
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes or dealing with a Steph Curry or Lebron James,

1956
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 4: or dealing with Tom Brady back in the day, or

1957
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 4: Alabama football. And I used to think about this all

1958
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 4: the time. You have to walk into the building thinking

1959
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 4: you can get it done, and then when you're in position,

1960
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 4: when even when you have a lead, you have to

1961
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 4: still believe you can get it done, not look at

1962
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 4: the scoreboard and beg for it to be over. And

1963
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 4: I think that there's a difference there. You look at

1964
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 4: that guy and you know he's that good, and so

1965
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 4: I think you grip. I think you get out of

1966
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 4: your comfort zone the first start, the first sense that

1967
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 4: he's really starting to find some kind of rhythm, You

1968
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 4: do abandon what brought you there, and all of a

1969
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 4: sudden you find yourself on the outside looking in. And

1970
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: this happens more often than not, So I think there's

1971
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 4: a I think there is a lot of truth to

1972
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 4: the Mahomes factor being intimidating. Even though these are all

1973
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 4: professionals and the forty nine ers are really good, you're

1974
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 4: still looking at something otherworldly over there that should and

1975
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 4: always does strike terror in the hearts of anybody that

1976
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 4: plays with them. So I think that that statue about

1977
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 4: the Patriots time of possession in that game, the best

1978
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 4: way to beat Patrick Mahomes is not just to sack

1979
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 4: him and make him uncomfortable. It's to bore him to

1980
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 4: tears watching your offense go on twenty play drives on

1981
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 4: the field.

1982
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 2: That's absolutely right, as Patrick Mahomes does, of course win

1983
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 2: a third Super Bowl MVP. The Kansas City Chiefs beat

1984
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers twenty five twenty two

1985
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: in overtime. Jason, tell you what will come back? I

1986
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 2: do want to kind of continue this conversation. Listen, We'll

1987
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 2: do the conversation that everyone is going to have on Monday.

1988
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes third Super Bowl? What does it mean historically?

1989
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio.

1990
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1991
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1992
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1993
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1994
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Eric Torres,

1995
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 2: Jason Martin taking you up until two am Eastern Time.

1996
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 3: Ben Mallard following us.

1997
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 2: Of course, the topic of the night the San Francisco

1998
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers falling in the Super Bowl in overtime

1999
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City wins twenty five

2000
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 2: twenty two. As mentioned in overtime, a Patrick Mahomes walkoff

2001
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 2: touchdown to Mcole. Hardman should mention, by the way, did

2002
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2007
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Speaker 2: All right, Jason, let's get into it. I'm not a big.

2008
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,959
Speaker 3: Well what does this mean for history?

2009
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 9: Guy?

2010
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 2: I just you know, I understand that these are conversations

2011
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 2: that fans want to have, Like I do, get kind

2012
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: of annoyed, like in the NBA playoffs when like, oh

2013
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 2: Curry won a championship, he moves to number seven on

2014
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: my all time list. It's like, I don't know, but

2015
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 2: it's not for me, but it is worth noting. I mean,

2016
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is quite literally on a trajectory that I

2017
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: can't say we've never seen it, because Tom Brady had

2018
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: three Super Bowl championships in about his first what four

2019
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 2: years of starting as an NFL quarterback, But so we

2020
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 2: can't say we've never seen it. But twenty eight years old,

2021
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 2: three super Bowl titles. Andy Reid isn't going anywhere, Travis

2022
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 2: Kelsey is gonna be around at least one more year.

2023
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: And as we discussed the last segment. It's like, the

2024
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 2: guy is unbelievable. He's not slowing down at all, and

2025
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: we're at the point until somebody knocks him off. He

2026
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: has to be deemed the favorite, and then even when

2027
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 2: he gets knocked off the next year, he should come

2028
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: back as the favorite until further notice. We talked about

2029
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 2: it to lead the segment, Jason, but he's kind of,

2030
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 2: in my opinion, he's in that Michael Jordan, Derek Jeter.

2031
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, not Michael Jordan, like the greatest of all time,

2032
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 2: but Michael Jordan of when he was playing and he

2033
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 2: was in those playoffs, you just never counted him out

2034
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: until he was eliminated. And of course, in Michael Jordan's case,

2035
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: he never really was. Same with Jeter, same with Kobe's,

2036
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: same with Tom Brady's, same with those kinds of guys.

2037
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 2: And you look at a guy now with his third

2038
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,959
Speaker 2: Super Bowl of his career, twenty eight years old, plenty

2039
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 2: ahead of him, it's unbelievable. I think he's just I

2040
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: don't even know what to say. I mean, it's early.

2041
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too hyperbolic, but man, oh man,

2042
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: it feels like this guy could do some things that

2043
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 2: maybe outside of Brady, we've never seen before.

2044
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 4: I mean, right now, he's won three, so he has

2045
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 4: done with Joe Montana has done. He's still looking up

2046
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 4: at Tom Brady and he's got plenty of time, and

2047
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 4: I don't think he's done. I think that's the fair

2048
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 4: way to look at it. Is it gonna be this

2049
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 4: coming year? I'll pick them. I'll definitely be picking them. Sorry,

2050
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 4: ESPN as I'm looking at your power rankings and see

2051
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 4: that number one going into next year, which again I

2052
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 4: don't know why we're doing this, but we're doing this.

2053
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 4: Baltimore is number one, Kansas City is number two. I'm sorry,

2054
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 4: but no, I'm sorry, but no. They had their opportunity

2055
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 4: and they did not win. They had it on their

2056
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 4: home field and they did not win. They had the

2057
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 4: MVP at quarterback, we were told, and they did not win.

2058
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 4: You want me to place them in a power ranking

2059
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 4: above the team that just went back to back Super

2060
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 4: Bowls with the best player in the world at quarterback,

2061
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 4: I can't do it. Kansas City, even though they may

2062
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 4: not be from one to fifty two, the best roster

2063
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 4: in the NFL, that quarterback counts for a lot more

2064
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 4: than one. Are they gonna lose Chris Jones? They might,

2065
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 4: They might lose them this month. Remember he held out

2066
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 4: to open the season. Are they gonna pay him big now?

2067
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. But they have a lot of other guys.

2068
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,679
Speaker 4: They've still got an unbelievable coordinator. They've still got Andy Reid.

2069
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 4: Travis Kelce I think's assuredly going to be back as well.

2070
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 4: No one else to me that you hear. If you

2071
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 4: hear somebody say that somebody other than Kansas City is

2072
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 4: the favorite next year, ask them to show their work

2073
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 4: because they flat out can't. No one can.

2074
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't even know what the argument is,

2075
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, because Kansas City, like I could see other

2076
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: years and trust me, I'm the guy. Listen, I said, hey,

2077
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: you know two years ago, I said they're gonna take

2078
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 2: a step back. No, Tyreek Hill. They obviously didn't take

2079
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 2: a step back. They won a super Bowl last year,

2080
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl this year. Obviously last year, you

2081
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 2: lose Eric Bienemy. I think that was a lot of

2082
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 2: the conversation during the season when they were struggling. Was

2083
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 2: Eric enemy a bigger part of this than we thought?

2084
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 3: Maybe he was. We don't know.

2085
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 4: Well.

2086
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is that if there

2087
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 2: was ever a year to doubt Kansas City, this was

2088
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 2: the year it made sense. We discussed it on Christmas Day.

2089
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: They lost to the Raiders at home to fall to

2090
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 2: nine and six. Overall, they had to go on the

2091
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 2: road to the number two seed AFC East champion and

2092
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 2: a team that beat them at Arrowhead, admittedly under controversial circumstances,

2093
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: but nonetheless beat Buffalo. Go to the number one seed

2094
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 2: with the future MVP in Lamar Jackson, doesn't matter. They

2095
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 2: win again. And so that that's where I get tripped up.

2096
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 2: If you wanted to go into last season and say,

2097
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 2: well they lost Tyreek Hill, I don't really know. Okay, fine,

2098
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: I see the argument. You want to make the argument

2099
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 2: going into this year, well you know they won it,

2100
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 2: but Eric Bieenemy's gone. Now, okay, fine, I see it.

2101
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 2: But after this year, no b Enemy, no Tyreek Hill.

2102
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 2: You by the way, I mean again just gets into

2103
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 2: statistics and analytics and computer numbers. But statistically this was

2104
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 2: apparently the toughest playoff run ever facing both Yeah, you

2105
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: face the number one and number two seeds in the

2106
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: AFC plus the number one seed in the NFC. It's like,

2107
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 2: what is the argument to make that they shouldn't be

2108
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 2: favorites going forward? And by the way, Travis Kelsey said

2109
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna be back. Andy Reid said he's gonna be back.

2110
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 2: So it's just I don't know, I'm just barking up.

2111
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 4: I mean, that's right, I mean it's true. I mean

2112
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 4: I was thinking about it as well. Who's the rival

2113
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 4: of this generation for Patrick Mahomes at least that we've

2114
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 4: been told, even though I think you could argue it's Burrow,

2115
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 4: it's Ben Josh Allen went to Buffalo and BM beat

2116
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 4: the MVP and Lamar Jackson and the number one seed

2117
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 4: in the AFC matched up with the top seed in

2118
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 4: the NFC in the Super Bowl and beat them, went

2119
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,560
Speaker 4: on the road, and the Travis or actually no, you

2120
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 4: didn't go on the road, but you ended up dealing

2121
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 4: with Miami and their offense and you're able to take

2122
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 4: them down as well. Like everything that they went through here,

2123
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 4: there's no reason to look at the AFC next year

2124
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 4: and say, oh, well, next year is going to be

2125
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 4: this will be the year where Baltimore overtakes them. No, Like,

2126
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,759
Speaker 4: why didn't they do it? This time, it's gonna be different.

2127
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 4: A couple of personnel pieces. Well, the problem is the

2128
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 4: personnel for Kansas City is not gonna change. And I

2129
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 4: don't think that at this point. It's not a function

2130
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 4: of wait until we get tape on the guy. Now,

2131
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 4: we got a lot of tape on this guy, and

2132
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 4: you just can't stop him, like you can't beat him.

2133
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 4: So if they don't win next year, I'm on record

2134
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 4: right now telling you I'll just have been wrong then

2135
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 4: because I will not pick against Kansas City again in

2136
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 4: a playoff game. You know, it just flat out will

2137
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 4: not happen.

2138
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting I was thinking about while you

2139
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 2: were talking, and you know, let's let's give ourselves credit.

2140
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: This will be the first time anyone's made this point.

2141
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 3: I think.

2142
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 2: This like and and Dan Byer did make the point earlier,

2143
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Speaker 2: like this is supposed to be the time that you

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Speaker 2: catch Kansas City. But what I was thinking about was

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is just going into that big contract. Mm hm,

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01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is just going into that big contract. Lamar

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01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Jackson is just going into that big contract. And so

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Speaker 2: it's like in theory, these were the most loaded, kind

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01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 2: of stacked teams that they were going to have. Now,

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01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: justin Herbert was it was never really competitive because of

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01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 2: course the coaching was coaching malpractice, whatever Burrow has been hurt,

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01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 2: et cetera. And so I understand that the Bills hypothetically,

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01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 2: as you said, have been the closest thing to a rival,

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01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 2: although again they're not really a rival because because they

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01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, they haven't really beat them in games of consequence.

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01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 2: But I spring it up because the Chiefs this is

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01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 2: now what year three of the Mahomes extension, where they've

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01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 2: been losing pieces. They couldn't have Tyreek Hill because they

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01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: had to pay Patrick Mahomes. So I think that's the

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Speaker 2: interesting part is like these were supposed to be the

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01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 2: years that you caught the Kansas City Chiefs because Mahomes

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01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 2: was making all that money and they had to cut

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01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 2: bait with some guys that they wanted to keep. Well,

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01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 2: now it's gonna happen when the Cincinnati Bengals have to

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Speaker 2: do that, when the Los Angeles Chargers have to do that,

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01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: when I guess the Buffalo Bills have been doing that.

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01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 2: I just think that's something I hadn't really thought about

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01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 2: until right now as well. But it's like, man, dude,

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01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: it's like, by the way, Philadelphia Eagles Jalen Hurts just

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01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 2: got his contract, So.

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Speaker 4: It's like, let me here, Hey, what you're saying is right.

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01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 4: This is because of what you have to do to

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01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 4: build a team and take advantage of rookie contracts and

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Speaker 4: all that. It's even more different than this. But how

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01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 4: many guys were supposed to be the one that took

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01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 4: down Tiger Woods during his prime?

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Speaker 3: Well, let me jump in.

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 2: I've said I said this to lead the show is

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Speaker 2: I keep going back to the documentary The Last Dance,

2180
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: and I rewatched it with my wife probably about a

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01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 2: year ago after it aired during COVID whatever, and the

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01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 2: thing that stood out to me rewatching it going episode

2183
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 2: by episode every single year, there was a new guy

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01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,680
Speaker 2: from that generation who thought he was going to be

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01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 2: the guy to end the MJ stuff. Reggie Miller, Charles

2186
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 2: Barkley with the Sons, Patrick Ewing, Gary Payton, the glove.

2187
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 2: I had no problem with the glove. You go on

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01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 2: and on every single year, stocked at him alone. Every

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01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 2: single year, there's a new guy. Every single round, there's

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01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 2: a new guy, and nobody can do it, and we're

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01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 2: getting to that point with Patrick Mahomes. I understand that

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01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 2: he did lose an AFC Championship game to Joe Burrow,

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01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 2: but at the same time, we're talking about a guy

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01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 2: three super Bowls at twenty eight years old and ain't

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01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: slowing down. Everybody else is going to be weakened going forward.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of cut you off, Jason. But it

2197
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 2: was the same concept of Tiger and his prime, mj

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01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: and his prime, Brady in his prime, and now I

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Speaker 2: think you can add Mahomes to that list.

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Speaker 4: So I'll give you this real fast. I was thinking

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01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,560
Speaker 4: about it, and you know, all of these rookie contracts

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01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 4: and guys that are now getting paid and now you

2203
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 4: can't build quite the same way around them, and who's

2204
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 4: in the best shape to do all of this and

2205
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 4: all those things. There is one team that I want

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01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 4: to see over the next two to three seasons what

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01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 4: they look like. Tell you what, I know what, Yeah,

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01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 4: I was going to set up the tease.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, no, that was it.

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01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 4: What you were doing is setting up the tea. So

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01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 4: you go ahead and finish that and send it to Finley.

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01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I didn't want you to give it

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01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:09,839
Speaker 3: away before we do get to Fenley.

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01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: So for the final time this evening for us anyway,

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01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 2: let's do get it over to the news desk Brian

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01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 2: Finley and his one appearance annually with Fox Sports Radio.

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01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 3: Nice of you to join us. What is trending right now?

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01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 3: Brian Finley?

2219
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, what is trending?

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01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 5: There?

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01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 3: Happened to be this game.

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01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 7: It was the Super Bowl and Kyle Shanahan, we know

2223
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 7: his history in Super Bowls coming into this game. Of course,

2224
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 7: he was the offensive coordinator when the Patriots were down

2225
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 7: twenty eight to three against the Falcons, and he let

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01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 7: that one slip away, and then he had another Super

2227
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 7: Bowl that he let slip away as a play caller.

2228
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 7: So he went into this one thinking, all right, maybe

2229
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 7: the third time he's going to finish on top. And

2230
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 7: it didn't exactly go that way for him, as his

2231
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 7: forty nine ers lost in overtime in the Super Bowl

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01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 7: in Las Vegas to the Chiefs twenty five to twenty two,

2233
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 7: and overtime touchdown from Patrick maho Holmes to Mcole Hardman

2234
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 7: with about three seconds to go sealed it in a

2235
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 7: walk off win. Patrick Mahomes is his third Super Bowl title.

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01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 7: Every single one of them. He has been MVP, so

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01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 7: he continues to dominate. Had two touchdowns on the day,

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01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 7: and if you look at Kyle Shanahan and his numbers

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01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 7: right now as a head coach, he's now zero for

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Speaker 7: three in Super Bowls as a play caller. And after

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01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 7: the game, he was asked about why he decided after

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01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 7: winning the coin toss in overtime whether or not to

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01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 7: get the ball, and of course in the playoff overtime rules,

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01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 7: each team is guaranteed to get one possession. He decided

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01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 7: that even by winning the coin flip, that his team

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01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 7: was going to go on offense first, and he tried

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 7: to explain the reasoning behind that two reporters when they

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01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 7: asked him about it after the game.

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01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 4: Overtime goes into the decision to take them off first.

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Speaker 9: That's just something we talked about with you know that

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01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 9: none of us have a ton of experience of it,

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01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 9: but we went to all the analytics and talk those guys,

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01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 9: and we just thought it'd be better if we wanted

2254
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 9: the ball third, both teams matched and scored, we want

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Speaker 9: to be the ones who had the chance to go win,

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Speaker 9: and we got that field goal, so we knew we

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01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 9: had to hold him to at least to a field goal,

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01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 9: and if we did, then we thought it was in

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01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 9: our hands.

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Speaker 7: After that, it didn't exactly work that way. As the

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01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 7: head coach for the Chiefs, Andy Reid said more so

2262
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 7: that he was sensing it coming back next season, and

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01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 7: that was confirmed by NFL network and Chiefs owner Clark Hunt,

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01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 7: who said he fully expects Andy Reid to return for

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01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 7: another season. And then there was also that little scuffle

2266
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 7: on the sideline with Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey during

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01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 7: the game, and essentially Reid was asked about it in

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01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 7: the postgame press conference and said that it was all

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01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 7: due to Kelsey wanting to come in to the game

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01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,679
Speaker 7: at a certain point where he felt he could score,

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01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 7: although it seemed a little bit more contentious than just

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01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 7: having that kind of conversation. And then I'll leave this

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01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 7: with you guys, as I sent it back to Aaron

2274
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 7: Torres and Jason Martin. Travis Kelsey obviously had had a

2275
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 7: great game from the perspective of he said what he

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01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 7: was going to do and that was winning a super Bowl,

2277
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 7: but his game after the game not able to pull

2278
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 7: the trigger on the proposal of Taylor Swift. I mean

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01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 7: what's going on here? Guys like Finley.

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01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: Just because you got down on one knee and made

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01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: the plunge a few weeks ago, which we all saw

2282
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: on social media, congratulations, I haven't seen you since. Just

2283
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 2: because you know you have the heart of a lion

2284
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that everybody does.

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01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 7: Well, it's just when he speaks such a big game

2287
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 7: and he's so braggadocious, you'd think, come on, man, you

2288
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:35,759
Speaker 7: wouldn't get nervous in that situation.

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01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: But he did say, like he was asked about it

2290
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 2: at Media Day last Monday, and he did say something

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01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 2: to the effect of I'm focused on one ring right

2292
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 2: now or something like that. So the bigger question I

2293
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 2: was telling the people during the break, if they make it,

2294
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: if they go the distance, what the heck is Taylor

2295
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 2: Swift going to swing sing about going forward?

2296
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 4: Well, Miss Scott that Tortured Poet's what is the new

2297
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 4: album that's coming out in April? The Tortured Poets Society,

2298
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 4: the Torch of Poets Club or whatever it is is.

2299
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 4: She announced that the Grammys, So that's coming in a

2300
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 4: couple of months. I mean, her whole brand is built

2301
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 4: around burying past flames and pretending that her life is

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01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 4: not great, but swort of great. I don't really know.

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. Look, you play a lot of roles

2304
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 4: in movies that don't necessarily indicate who you are.

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01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 3: Aaron, I've never played any role in any movie.

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01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 4: Well, I'm she can still play the character of Taylor

2307
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 4: Swift in her music and still get over with those people.

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01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:40,839
Speaker 2: Well, to Fenley's point, they are not yet going the distance.

2309
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 2: They are still just a couple. Pat Travis Kelsey got

2310
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 2: his ring tonight. Taylor Swift, at least as of right now,

2311
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 2: did not. Fox Sports radio er tors Jason Martin, broadcasting

2312
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 2: live from the Tyreck dot Com studios, will come back.

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01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 3: Jason will tell you the.

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01:52:55,160 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 2: One team that he is intrigued by, maybe possibly an

2315
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: actual threat to the Kansas City Chiefs, because nobody else is.

2316
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Trety.

2317
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 4: Thirteen seconds to go in the overtime twenty two to

2318
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 4: nineteen San Francisco McKinnon is in up running back, first

2319
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 4: down and goal to go.

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01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 3: Play action fake.

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01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 4: Right, Doctor Tuxdawn, Kansas City McCall Hartman. McCall Hartman, what

2322
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 4: the catch on the right side?

2323
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 6: Kansas City wins the game, twenty five, twenty two.

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01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 3: And the Chiefs Kingdom has started its.

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01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 4: Own history class.

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01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 2: That was the final play of the Super Bowl. The

2327
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs do take care of business. Do beat

2328
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers twenty five to twenty

2329
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 2: two in overtime.

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01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 3: Third Super Bowl title of the Mahomes era.

2331
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes just twenty eight years old, so it feels

2332
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 2: as though there are plenty of big opportunities ahead for

2333
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 2: him in that franchise. Jason, before we got to finley

2334
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 2: last segment, you did say we went through kind of

2335
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 2: all the different teams and all the different scenarios. You know,

2336
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Cincinnati they're gonna have to pay Burrow,

2337
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,799
Speaker 2: which means they're gonna have to cut back in other places.

2338
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: Same with the Los Angeles Chargers and Justin Herbert, Same

2339
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurts. But you said

2340
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 2: there's one team that intrigues you going forward, maybe not

2341
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 2: as the team that could topple them, but at least

2342
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: an interesting team that maybe people aren't talking about.

2343
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad, you're glad you clarified that, But yeah, no,

2344
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,680
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna topple them. I'm just I

2345
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 4: want to see what they do over the next couple

2346
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 4: of years, because they are in the position of that

2347
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 4: first contract and as such find themselves sixty ish million

2348
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 4: dollars under the cap right now, with money that they

2349
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 4: can spend going into next year. And for example, Harbaugh

2350
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 4: is inheriting a Chargers team that's a I think fifty

2351
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 4: four million over right now, and he's gonna have to

2352
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 4: make some decisions, let some people go. But trying to

2353
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 4: push money into the future, you know that only hamstrings

2354
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 4: you at some point later. There's only so much creative

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01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 4: accounting that you can do. Now. You can find a way,

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 4: I know that. But the team that I look at

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01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 4: and say, all right, in the AFC Allen's got his money,

2358
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 4: Lamar's got his money, Burrow's got his money. All these

2359
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 4: guys have their money. Well. CJ. Strouds is entering his

2360
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 4: second year, and they were much better, much faster than

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01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 4: anybody thought. And they still have a lot of guys

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01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 4: that they probably need to move around and do some

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01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 4: other things with. Like I don't see him as like

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01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 4: a Sober Bowl favorite, And I'm not saying that. I'm

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01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 4: just saying, you've just seen maybe the best rookie performance

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Speaker 4: from a quarterback of all time, just one Rookie Year

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01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 4: award as he should have. You've got you know, he

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01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 4: had a couple of guys get dinged up during the

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01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 4: year which you saw an Ego Collins. You saw guys perform.

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 4: Demico Ryans looks like a star into making as a

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01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 4: head coach already, the defense made some plays. You got

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01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 4: Will Anderson, who was outstanding as well in that draft.

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01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 4: So there's no reason to think that they're not on

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01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions style trajectory. But with a quarterback who

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01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 4: is just entering his second year in the league as

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01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 4: opposed to Golf, who you know is commanding a little

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01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 4: bit more salary right now for them. So I look

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01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 4: at Houston and I say, they're the one that I

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01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 4: feel like, should they if they make good decisions financially

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01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 4: and personnel wise over this next couple of years, they

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01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 4: might be in position to challenge at some point in

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01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 4: the near future. They're the ones that I'm most interested

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 4: in seeing what they look like next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so interesting the landscape of the league because,

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 2: as I said earlier in the show, it just feels

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 2: like we're in position where these were the years that

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01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 2: you were supposed to catch. Kansas City, Tyreek Hill leaves

2388
01:56:56,520 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: before last season, Eric b Enemy leaves after this season.

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01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 2: They've lost other Orlando Brown all. There's just there's just

2390
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 2: been turnover. And obviously the consistents are Kelsey Mahomes and

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01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, but that shouldn't be enough to go back

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01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 2: to back in this era, especially in the AFC and

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01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 2: everything they had to go through, and especially this specific

2394
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 2: year when they had to.

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01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 3: Go on the road to Buffalo and to Baltimore as well.

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Speaker 4: Jason, you know, yeah, I mean that's right. And we

2397
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 4: talked about what a murderers row this AFC was going

2398
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 4: to be entering the year, and some of those some

2399
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 4: of those teams turned out to be paper tigers. But

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01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 4: there were also a lot of injuries, especially with the

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01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 4: quarterback position and key roles throughout the league. But you

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01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 4: get to the end of the year and nothing's changed.

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01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 4: The same team that won it last year wins it

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01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 4: this year. Same team came out of the AFC and

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01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl again. It's still the Chiefs, It's

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01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 4: still that quarterback, it's still that head coach. It's still

2407
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 4: that tight end like that, that's just the way it is.

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01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 4: I also wondered this, so the enemy left to go

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01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 4: do the OC thing and watch it didn't work. There'll

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01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 4: be time to talk about bnemy's future. But maybe that

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01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 4: should have been the signal that Andy Reid wasn't in

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01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 4: danger of leaving anytime soon, unless there was a health situation.

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01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 4: Because Gerra Mayo stuck it out in New England knowing

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01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 4: he was the heir apparent to Bill Belichick. Maybe Andy

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01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 4: Reid just sat Eric the enemy down and said, hey, man,

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01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 4: go somewhere else. I might be here a while, even

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01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 4: if he wanted him to succeed him. If it's going

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01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 4: to be five years down the road, maybe you want

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01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 4: the enemy to get that shot sooner rather than later,

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01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 4: if indeed you value him. I'm not saying that's true,

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01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 4: but I don't know that that's been explored enough. And

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01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 4: maybe we shouldn't have ever been looking at Andy Reid

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01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 4: like he was going to retire, or that should have

2424
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 4: been that big of a talking point, because the enemy

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01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 4: would have stuck around unless he wasn't going to get

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01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 4: that gig. And I think a lot of people in

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01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 4: Kansas City. Have thought for a while he was gonna

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01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 4: get that gig.

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Speaker 3: No, it's such a great point. I hadn't even considered it.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it just goes back to what

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01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 2: I have said all along, which is, I don't you

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01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 2: know you're Andy Reid, You're this offensive savant. For years,

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01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 2: you had Alex Smith, you had Donovan McNabb, who I

2434
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 2: think Donovan McNabb historically has maybe been a little bit old.

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01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 2: You know, people will talk negatively about him. But you

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01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: have Patrick Mahomes. I don't know why you would step away.

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Speaker 3: Jason.

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Speaker 2: That was the quickest three hours of radio we've ever done.

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01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 2: Had a blast. We gotta go big. Ben Maller's coming

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01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 2: up next. Do you want to thank the crew? Mary

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01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 2: on the boards, producer bersh Brian Finley on the updates

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01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:34,080
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01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,720
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