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Speaker 1: It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty. One more thing.

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Speaker 1: I took my son and two of his best friends

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Speaker 1: good time or not. I don't really know. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean? Huh, you can't tell teenagers. You can't tell

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Speaker 1: they just see, they got to act so aloof all

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Speaker 1: the time, oh yeah, okay, now, a lot of laughing

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Speaker 1: good time. But like in terms of just asking them questions, see, yeah, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: right whatever. Just I don't know. It's that cool guy age,

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Speaker 1: the cool guy age. Oh my god, the amount of

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Speaker 2: I'm usually pretty good at sussing out why, you know,

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Speaker 2: rest of it, but the whole I don't like anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that's all about. You want to

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Speaker 2: seem in control. And do they associate and this is

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Speaker 2: it's practically universal. Yeah, but do they associate enthusiasm with childishness?

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Speaker 1: I wonder that's a pretty good one right there. But

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Speaker 1: I felt like the three of them together, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Feeling superior to things and people? It's really important to

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Speaker 2: thing can be so brutal, because anybody you can put

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Speaker 1: Well, here's a perfect example to make my own point,

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Speaker 1: I thought they got to be noticing with teenage boys. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I brought that up on the Uber ride to the airport.

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Speaker 1: Some attractive woman there in place. Yeah, I didn't think

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Speaker 1: freaking loss upscale Los Angeles. Unless you're all three gay,

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Speaker 2: Well, and then at least say, I don't know about

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Speaker 2: the chicks, but the dudes were pretty fresh or fly

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Speaker 2: or whatever people say these days. Fly That one goes

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Speaker 2: that reminds me I've got to find that hang. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna make a note to myself even as we speak.

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Speaker 2: NPR did a feature about dropping testosterone levels, and they

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Speaker 2: had all the men at the NPR station test their testosterone.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had an erection in a decade and a

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Speaker 2: Dude using finger quotes who worked there. It was like, uh, sorry,

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Speaker 2: shock It amuses me in a way, and it confirms

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Speaker 2: what I've thought, Well, what you came first. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is there something about working at NPR that drives down

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Speaker 3: I hope it's nothing that these guys have been taught

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Speaker 1: No, it's not that. I don't think that. It was

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Speaker 2: But I didn't think so. Although again, the teenage lads,

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Speaker 4: I dated a guy like that in high school and

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Speaker 4: it was insufferable. He could not he could not be

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Speaker 4: are you are you too cool for everything? I'm not

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Speaker 4: understanding this and he actually, I don't know that he's

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Speaker 2: But there was somebody I know very very well who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta believe in that case, since he was

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Speaker 2: Been said of bigotry, and I think it's right that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's psychological self protection. I ran into somebody like

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Speaker 4: Like the main form of entertainment, even when you're in

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Speaker 1: Right and like, and we're riding around in these ubers

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Speaker 2: Staying at a hotel right next to or right down

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't mean anything to the younger crowd, which man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Hollywood's aware of that. They probably are,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder what that is.

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Speaker 4: All the streaming services maybe lost in the I think

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Speaker 2: Guess in video gaming, and yeah, that's that's part of it.

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Speaker 2: Plus there's more transparency in the world these days, so

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Speaker 2: on the silver screen or it carefully orchestrated publicity events. Now,

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Speaker 2: if some famous actor and his old lady are bitching

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Speaker 1: You think Larry.

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Speaker 2: Goes is Ben Affleck pooping. I'll be dad. You didn't

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Speaker 1: No, you did not get their humbry bogar pooping. Yes, Michael,

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Speaker 1: Now I just say.

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Speaker 3: Younger people, they can film themselves, so it's nothing special

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Speaker 1: That's not a bad point. Actually, oh, excellent point. I say, well,

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Speaker 1: you win. That is the podcast observation of the day. Congratulations, Michael. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's it.