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Speaker 1: what's up, fellas, Good to see you. Good up. Let's

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Speaker 1: think about that intrup. I like it. Man, was a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. I mean, I don't I get it.

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Speaker 1: That's your guy. You guys on the show together. I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's all good, Kurt. You know what I'm saying. Don't

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Speaker 1: I get another I get another opportunity to do this,

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Speaker 1: so I will do better next time. Give me. I

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Speaker 1: will say that right away. But guys, we have had

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Speaker 1: some practices this we last staid sitting here at this

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Speaker 1: because I know I know you two. But what the practices,

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Speaker 1: part of the competition battles that are happening right now,

426
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna lead to so much that's gonna happen on

427
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: the back half of this defense and trying to make

428
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,239
Speaker 1: it better. And that's where I'm going. That's where I'm

429
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: going next, is the back half of this deep and say, guys,

430
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: you've seen at least you've heard about the Cowboys signing

431
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: Kyran Brown, a guy that I believe he sat out

432
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: last year because of COVID protocol, not just the COVID

433
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: just sitting out last year, but also bringing in Malik Hooker. Now,

434
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people like you can tell a

435
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: lot to me, making sound fly to me, you love

436
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: your guys, but then when you start signing guys like this,

437
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: what is that saying that the front office and the

438
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: position coaches are feeling about their guys? And Jesse, I'll

439
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: start with you. I think the one thing is we

440
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: talked about it briefly on Friday, and Jerry always said,

441
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I can. I'll write whatever check I

442
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: can to ensure my team go to the Super Bowl.

443
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Signing moves like Malik Hooker kind of makes me believe

444
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: that a little bit because to Isaiah point, I want

445
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: so much depth at every single position. Let me say this,

446
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: when I was in New England and we always make

447
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: New England the standard. When I was in New England

448
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: and Isaiah you were in New England as well, the

449
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: one thing that I loved about how they did it

450
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: in New England every day there was competition. Unless you

451
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: wore number twelve, you weren't safe and everything. If you

452
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: had a good practice, you will lead frog a guy.

453
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: If you had a good game, you start next week.

454
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: And it was you never had an opportunity to relax.

455
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: And there were times in practice where where Bill Belichick

456
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: will literally blow the whistle in the middle of practice

457
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: and say Kurt Daniels down hurt and pulled the number

458
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 1: three safety out and say you're with the ones now

459
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: because he always wanted to see if you were on

460
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: top of your game. Cannot trust you? Can you be trusted?

461
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: Can you go in the game at any moment and

462
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: be successful? Years passed with the Cowboys, there has been

463
00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: a level of entitlement where guys were in positions with

464
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: giving starting jobs and didn't really earn them and didn't

465
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: do enough to keep them, but because of maybe status

466
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: or coaching or whatever, they were allowed to have poor

467
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: performances and still keep their job. I think you're seeing

468
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: a completely different culture change happening when you start bringing

469
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: in guys now, when you bringing up Malik Cook and

470
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: you go, oh, guys, start looking around. Now, when you

471
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: start signing other dbs, you're like, wait, I thought we

472
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: was I thought we were set at dB. I thought,

473
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, we had too many in this

474
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: room and beginning with and now you add another now

475
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: that Lions didn't, gets a little bit more feisty, and

476
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: you want feistiness in the mindset. I want guys to

477
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: go to bed at night knowing that tomorrow I have

478
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: to compete for my job. And when you do that, heck,

479
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: you get guys to perform better. They study harder, they've recovered,

480
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: they do what they had to do in the weight room,

481
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: they do they gotta do in the training room, and

482
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: then when they get on the feed, they're competing at

483
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: a different level and everybody gains from that type of mentality.

484
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: So I like what they did signing those guys because

485
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: now the room has gotten a little bit more uncomfortable,

486
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: and you should be uncomfortable in training camp. I love it.

487
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: I love it. I think it goes to everything that

488
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: I told you about when the dan Quinn conversation even started,

489
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: you know before, when we were talking, I'm talking cowboys,

490
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: and I said, everything that dan Quinn does is about competition.

491
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely everything he does on that side of the ball

492
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: is about competing. And it's all about depth, and it

493
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who the heck is number one, who the

494
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: heck is number three? Just said Jesse's point. Who's going

495
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: to show up in ball today? And you can slip

496
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: up and have a bad day if you want to

497
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: slip up and not show up mentally, if you want to,

498
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: there's gonna be somebody right in your hip pocket really

499
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: to take your spot. The signing of brown, not only

500
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: is that not only is that you know a threat

501
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: to the defensive backs. I don't even think it's so

502
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: much of a threat to defensive backs. It's a threat

503
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: to the special teams. So whose is that effect that

504
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: affects the guys on the offensive side? What are the

505
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: receiver's gonna do? Number four or five and six receivers?

506
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a number six receiver? What

507
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: we rover just five? That's a threat to those guys there.

508
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: You know, the signing of the safety hooker when whenever

509
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: you do sag him right after he gets out of protocol,

510
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: that's a boss move because he's a baller. Yeah, that's

511
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: a boss move because he's a baller and all they're

512
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: showing him say we believe in you. That you can

513
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: get back healthy. So when you have when you have

514
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: an organization that's gonna gonna tap you on your shoulder

515
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: and say we believe in you, we have faith in you,

516
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: and you already have that dog in you and you've

517
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: already proven to the league that you can ball. Oh

518
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: best believe he's gonna show up ready to take somebody's position.

519
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: And if he's healthy, If he's healthy, and that's I

520
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: know that's always a question mark, but that's a question

521
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: mark with any human being that steps on the football field, right.

522
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter if you've been injured in the past,

523
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: or if you if you if you've never been injured before,

524
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: there's always a risk if you getting hurt, right, So

525
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: throw that out the window. If he can play, if

526
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: he's healthy, that boy's gonna come in here balling and

527
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: he's gonna take somebody spot. Kurt, Kurt, what do you

528
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: think about And even with Molly Cookers signing, what does

529
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: that say to what we thought about the cause and

530
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: bringing him in from Atlanta. He's a dan Quinn guy

531
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, so you talk about the level

532
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: of competition going up. Even if you're my guy, you're

533
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: not safe. Yeah, I mean, but what it makes me

534
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: kind of wonder though. I mean, they brought Hooker in

535
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: for a visit what May June? Yeah, I mean he

536
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough then apparently why now what's the what's

537
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: the change? I mean, and you're because he's coming off

538
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: at Achilles, right ya, Hooker's coming off on Achilies. I mean,

539
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: can you rely on guys that are injury prone? Especially

540
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: on that back end? I mean, I worry that we're

541
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: getting excited about guys that we make. Can we rely

542
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: on them? I guess? So I mean the word, and

543
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who was labeled injury prone. I had a

544
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: ton of injuries, right, So prior to coming to the league,

545
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: I had zero injuries, and all of a sudden I

546
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: got dog on a label of injury prone. Right. So

547
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: you can't control what happens on the field, right U,

548
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: especially when you start talking about achilles and things of

549
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: that nature. Right, those are just untouched, just just tragic injuries.

550
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: I headed Achilles right toward my achilles my contract year

551
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: in Seattle and won a Super Bowl the next year, right,

552
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: So I came back bigger, faster, stronger, So it really

553
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: you have to address those things on the individual basis

554
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: and with our training staff. If they're bringing him in

555
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: round Jim or those guys have checked him out, he's good.

556
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: He's ready to come in, and he's ready to compete.

557
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: So when it comes to there, in terms of being

558
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: able to rely on those guys, I don't think there's

559
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: a question of that, right. It's just you just pray

560
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: and ask that they don't you hope they don't get hurt,

561
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: just like you do with anybody else on your roster.

562
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: But in terms of Kazee and guys like that, he's

563
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: showing you, right, he is showing you that he doesn't

564
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: care who you are. I don't care if you're my

565
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: dude or not. He just guess what, come on the squad. Yeah,

566
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna compete. And then I'm gonna bringing a dog

567
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: who who has a history, who everybody knows them ball

568
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, ooh shoot if he's healthy. Oh man,

569
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: are you either gonna back down or you're gonna elevate

570
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: your game? Right right? Which one you're gonna do? Either

571
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: way it's a benefit to the Cowboys. You either gonna

572
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: weed out the week or you're gonna elevate the game. Everybody,

573
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: and now our team just got better. And also it

574
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: goes back to the depth situation. Right now both of

575
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: them get hurt. You're like, dang, you know, you know,

576
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: but I'm putting. We keep using this word, but it's

577
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a it's a word that should

578
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: be used. I'm putting as many dogs and as kennel

579
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: as I possibly can. I really am, because we are

580
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: We've already been labeled week, We've already been labeled the

581
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: worst in the league. We've already been historical lows. And

582
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: part of it is because we didn't have dogs. We

583
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: had barkers, we had those, we had we had a

584
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: lot of those that will stand behind the fence and

585
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: show your teeth and snarl and ground and do all

586
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and then the gate opens up

587
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: and then like now they tuck their tail. So how

588
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: do I know, How do I just keep putting dogs

589
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: in there? I just keep atting dolls and keep adding dogs,

590
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: and again the cream will rise to the top, absolutely right,

591
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: someone will, someone will have their food eaten, and someone

592
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: when when that starts to show, because it you cannot hide.

593
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: That is the greatness of football sports in general, can't hide.

594
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: You cannot hide. We're going to find the energy is

595
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: going to find you. In leadership, the opportunity for somebody

596
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: to step up as a leader now has been elevated.

597
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: It's been elevated because now you have a group of

598
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: people who are considered leaders. Right you put you put

599
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: one room together and they're all leaders in their alphas.

600
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: Who who's going to step up? We all can't be

601
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: the leader, right, we all can't be the leader. How

602
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: did as players? A guy coming in, I mean it's

603
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: only three days into camp, but he's late coming in.

604
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't get OTAs. I mean, how how

605
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: much of an effect is that? How much of a

606
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: disadvantage is that for him? And how much of an

607
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: effect can he have on the guy's already here not

608
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: at that position? Not at that position? Right? Is because

609
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: that if we were talking about a quarterback coming in,

610
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: then that's huge. That's timing, right when you're playing the

611
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: safety position, it's communication, Yeah, it's communication. Do I have

612
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: an understanding of the of the concepts I think the

613
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: coach is trying to get across. Okay, now that I

614
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: understand a concept, Now I need to build a relationship

615
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: with my guy next to me and those dbs out

616
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: there and make sure that they're communicating on the same way. Left,

617
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: big deal. But it doesn't take long. It doesn't communication

618
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: doesn't take long. But to add to that, to that

619
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: point is when you have guys who's already been in

620
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: the of the Dance Quinn system, they're the mouthpiece for him.

621
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: They're the ones in the locker room. Because now, if

622
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: I have a question, right, if I if I'm if

623
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm a vet here with the Cowboys, but I know

624
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: that you've been under Dan Quinn and that you know

625
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: his system, you know what he likes. I'm asking you questions,

626
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: and there's only there's there's one thing that that trumps everything.

627
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: When you get on the football field. Do you ball.

628
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: If you ball, you gain the respect of everybody and everybody.

629
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: If you don't ball, then guys like whatever. But if

630
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: you ball, if you out there doing what you got

631
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: you making plays, you're knocking down passage, you intercepting, and

632
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting things done on the field. You

633
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: it's sometimes leadership find you. It'll find you if you're

634
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: out there doing what you're supposed to do and you're

635
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: if you're balling, and you're doing what you gotta do,

636
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: then guys will gravitate to you. Guys, guys will begin

637
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Speaker 1: That should be pretty fun. I'm sure have you guys

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Speaker 1: touch that because it sounds like a sensitive subject. When

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Speaker 1: Remember that conversation. Do you remember that was actually a

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Speaker 1: conversation that happened. Weeks of conversation. Wow, that we were

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, right, we had talked about this,

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Speaker 1: and that's why my feelings were hurt because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: and Nate will randomly just send us pictures of his

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Speaker 1: road trips. Let me say that, we'll give you text,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get a text and its like it'd be

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Speaker 1: like Albuquerque, New Mexico. We're like, what, Like, yeah, I

712
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Speaker 1: just feel like I wanted to go for a drive.

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Speaker 1: Like going for a drive means you run down to

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Speaker 1: the you know, go to cliff Yeah, you go to

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Speaker 1: the seven to eleven. Come on back with somebod ice

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Speaker 1: cream is something. He's like, Oh yeah, where you going, Nate?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Texas, Florida. What so? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was. My feelings still hurt. You don't have to.

719
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you could. You could. You should

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Speaker 1: probably keep your feelings in your pocket because on the

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Speaker 1: line with us right now is three times Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: champion Nate Newton. What's up, Nate? Hey man, I've been

723
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: looking at this show man, y'all. Guy's been pretty crisp, curty,

724
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Speaker 1: looking pretty good and all that play he got. Hey, Nate,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something that that crease on that

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Speaker 1: shirt is starts. I don't have the guns here. I

727
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: can't be wearing these tight T shirts, Nate. Let me

728
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Speaker 1: tell you, man. One of the things that I've seen

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Speaker 1: so far coming out of camp was you were holding

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Speaker 1: court with the fans, and that was awesome to see

731
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: you talking to those guys. Man. What has it been

732
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: like for you the bobs down there in Oxnard, California. Man,

733
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: it's been a great thing because when I first started

734
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: seven or eight years ago coming back to the camp,

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00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: that is how I got in by doing that. Right there,

736
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: I was out on the Fraiway as they were calling

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Speaker 1: it at the time, and I was helping this young

738
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: guy and we were just out there for the Boys

739
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Speaker 1: Club in Girls Club of Oxonard, and we were just

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Speaker 1: doing things, seven things, trying to make things happen. And

741
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: as I saw players walking on the shield, I would hey,

742
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: there's such and such, and I would be screaming out

743
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: how getting everybody pumped up? Man? Spending the wheel, taking

744
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: your chances, and they brought it back. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that is how I got in the house. Man, you know,

746
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: just just a hike man, Jess hype man. Anybody got

747
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: any questions? Okay, yeah, I wasn't. You're a pointing man. Um, well,

748
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: I think heck, when you wanted to get into Connor

749
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Speaker 1: Williams playing some center and the offensive line, and obviously

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Speaker 1: Nate you know more than any of us about playing

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Speaker 1: that offensive line. What what do you think about Connor

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00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: taking on those snaps and how's how's that going to

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00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: be for him? Working both positions. You know, Now, I've

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00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: seen guys that play guard and and I've always looked

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00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: at Connor, is uh just above a guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he knows this position, he knows he's a left guard,

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Speaker 1: he knows uh the ends and outs of playing left guard.

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Speaker 1: But it seemed like he's just never been that strong.

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00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: But then I've seen guys not and Luney was one

760
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: of those guys moving from guard and play center and

761
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: be a better center for some reason, that a little

762
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: bit more stouter, Maybe things are a little bit more secure.

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Speaker 1: He's had a few wobbly snaps, one over the head

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Speaker 1: the other day, but hey, he's he's working at it,

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Speaker 1: and he's going at the real hard. So only time,

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Speaker 1: matel Only time to tell Kurt whether he can really

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Speaker 1: master this thing. You like that idea, though, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: do you need a backup center behind Hyeah, the young

769
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Speaker 1: man from Wisconsin. But I'm telling you, I just want

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Speaker 1: him at the left guard trying to be all they

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Speaker 1: can be. I whether for them have another guy working

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Speaker 1: in there. They guys, they had a few rookie offensive

773
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Speaker 1: lineman working in there, trying to trying to get it done. Man,

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Speaker 1: So who I don't know. It's a scary proposition, man,

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Speaker 1: But we have to find a guy to come in

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Speaker 1: there and play backup center. You know, they had a guy,

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Speaker 1: Braylon James a center there, a young guy I think,

778
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Speaker 1: and he was there. He was snapping the ball. So

779
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: but we don't have a backup guy right now. Connor

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Speaker 1: Williams is the number one guy. All right, Big Nate.

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Speaker 1: I got a question this Isaiah. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: From how are you doing? How you doing? I'm still

783
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: trying to get like you, man, but I'm making it.

784
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Speaker 1: I wanted to know, from the eyes of mister Nate Newton,

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: what is your confidence level right now in the hip

786
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: of Lil Collins. I've been seeing some film him taking

787
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: on some bull rushers and having to sit down, and

788
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: that's something that I've been looking forward to to getting,

789
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: uh some eyes on. But from your perspective, how confident

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00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: are you right now from the drills that you've seen

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00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: without pads? Are you in his hip? In his recovery? Uh?

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00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: You know he's been he's not been as consistent uh

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Speaker 1: with that because they're bull rushing then they have come

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00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: with speed and uh, and I've seen him struggle a

795
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: little bit, especially with him with a why technique Why

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Speaker 1: seven or nine? Uh, with with Brandy greg Rey or

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00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: the other young guys, they kind of every nine then

798
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: they blow past him. So I think right now he's

799
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Speaker 1: just trying to get his foundation up under him, and

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Speaker 1: I think he prefers that you come at him with

801
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: a bull rush. That way he can get his hands

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Speaker 1: on you and try to sit down. I think he's

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: confident in the unrepaired hill, but that speed, that speed,

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00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: that lateral movement, and that's sitting down with that lateral

805
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: movement and speed, that's what's gonna get him. When you

806
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: turn that speed like you got a speed rushing that

807
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: guy that's going upfield and then take two steps up

808
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: and turn back and see you with that bull rush

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00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: when it's expected. That's when we'll check that hill. But

810
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: so far he's been doing good, but he's not that

811
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Speaker 1: consistent guy, which you know it's gonna be a little

812
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: rush there with him being off a larger a long

813
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Speaker 1: amount of time. Three times Super Bowl champion Nate Newton

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Speaker 1: are putting a live from Oxnard, California, as Cowboys training

815
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Speaker 1: camp is under a way. They have the day off today,

816
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: but Nate My question is about your boy Zeke uh

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00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: slimmer trimmer, has gotten his weight down. He's talked about,

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00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, the eating habits and has working out. My

819
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: question is, and maybe it's a premature question, but Zeke

820
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: has always been known to have some power behind his pads.

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Speaker 1: Do you see him losing that with the weight loss,

822
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: with him being a more slimmer back, do you see

823
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Speaker 1: him losing that power one running behind his paths in two?

824
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: He's always been a hell of a pass blocker, and

825
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: you know this team's gonna throw the ball around the field.

826
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: So do you see Zeke losing that power with the

827
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: with the with the loss of that week? No, No,

828
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: because his mind and his body is matured. I mean,

829
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: you lose a littit of weight when you get a

830
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: little bit older. Now, he's not gonna lose that aggressive.

831
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna have good technique and if anything, he should

832
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: have a little bit more explosion on the past technique

833
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: and his short yardage runs to explode into the line

834
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: with a little bit more quickness. But he lost he

835
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: down about two eighteen to twenty, so he lowered tennez

836
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: Weell clowns. They's fifteen I think He's sitting that the

837
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: right way to be the most operable guy at this

838
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: time in his career. Now, Nate, you have you have

839
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: played with some dominating wide receivers and being one, Michael

840
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: Irvin who was the alpha dog in that wilde receiver room,

841
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: and Alvin Harper was obviously the number two. Now with

842
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper being on pup and CEEDE Lamb out there

843
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: doing all of the acrobatic catches and pretty much making

844
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: himself vaulting himself into that number one category, how do

845
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: you see this playing out at that wide receiver position.

846
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Speaker 1: Do you automatically say Amari Cooper is that number one?

847
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: Or a CD Lamb obviously making strides and what you've

848
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: seen so far to actually be the top dog at

849
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. I heard you guys talking about

850
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: dogs man, and uh. One thing about Amari he's real,

851
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: He's real confident in who he is. He's a real

852
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: quiet guy. You know. Men jest to talk about that

853
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: a lot. But CD Lamb has been having a nice camp,

854
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: He's been doing things good at that outside position. I

855
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: just want to let this play out because the top

856
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: dog will rise to the top right about now, you know,

857
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: Dak is working with him at the outside receivers. They're

858
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: building up a great rapport. Mary, get Amari get back there,

859
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: and we'll see what can happen. What we need from

860
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: from all of these receivers. It's more consistency when you

861
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: in tight situation and the big place situations. We know

862
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: you can catch the ball, we see that, but then

863
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: just routine pass catches. That's what we need to see

864
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: from Gallop, from Amari and from CD Lamb. Just that

865
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: that thing that keeps the change moving, because that is

866
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: what we're gonna have to do in order to save

867
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: this defense the first six seven games. But to answer

868
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: your question, man, CD Lamb will be the number one

869
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: receiver at the end of all of this. Nice that's

870
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: about Michael Galli. You know, I just look, I love

871
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: me for Michael Gallop, but he's not consistent in this

872
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: pass catching. He got a flare for the spectacular, but

873
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: we need to be able to move the chains, and

874
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: that's what that's what we got to get insisted. It's

875
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: been happening out here in tran camp, you know that

876
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: every night, and then we'll get that drop ball that

877
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: just keep the chains moving into two minute drills. N

878
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: you just alluded to something and I kind of want

879
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: to just piggyback on a little bit. You said that

880
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: this defense won't be kind of where they're supposed to

881
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: be for about six or seven weeks into the season.

882
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: He said, they gotta have to carry us for six

883
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: seven week into the season. Why is or why do

884
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: you think this defense is so far away from being

885
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: competitive enough to I'm not saying carry this Cowboys team,

886
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: but at least hold their own for this Cowboy team. Man,

887
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I was listening to you guys earlier, man and that

888
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: world dog kept coming up? Who is the dogs? You know?

889
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: You you got DeMarcus Lawrence coming off a hurt back.

890
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: We don't know who Tristan Hill is Gallimore, We don't

891
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: know Basham's come from another team. I think his name

892
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: You are a BA N or Urban. He comes from

893
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: a different team. Who are your dogs? I heard y'all

894
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: talking about the safeties. I mean, we know Nil who

895
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: Nil lives in Atlanta? You know we know that Michael

896
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: Parsons was a beast that took a year off in college.

897
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: We've seen Layton three two years two and a half

898
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: years ago, we saw Smith two and a half years.

899
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: Who is gonna lead this team? They gotta find out.

900
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: And they got a lot of young guys, draftees and

901
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot of free agents that they got to play

902
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: and fit into this thing. I mean, they're making plays

903
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: out there and they're they're looking Chris, They're looking Chris,

904
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: they're lining up. Yesterday, I saw the most blown coverages

905
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: in the secondary yesterday. And the practice, you know, the

906
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: two practice. Proud of that. They were pretty they were

907
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, they wanted, you know, or to

908
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: ask the offense to get more complex and the rugs

909
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and the and the bunches and all of these crossing routes.

910
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: Things are gonna start happening. You know, who is the

911
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: dog And it's gonna take time to develop that. You know,

912
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: you're gonnause You're gonna first learn learn the defense, Learn

913
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: where you fit in the defense, learn how much you

914
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: can stress the defense within your abilities, and then we

915
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: won't we won't know that early in the season. It's

916
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna take a while. You guys know that can this

917
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: team be successful of their defense and round in the

918
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: shape until six seven weeks in? Oh yeah, man, yeah, Kirk,

919
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: they can be successful. Man, all we gotta do is

920
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: uh control Temple. We have to try to control Temple.

921
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: We can't save them completely because if you get a

922
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: high powered offense in here, they're going at them and

923
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to answer. So a lot like Week one,

924
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Week two, I'm just saying, you know what, man, it's

925
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a circus now. The monkeys are gonna be swinging,

926
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: you know. I Hey, y'all know what's happening, man, But

927
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: our defense has to stay confident. Our defense has to

928
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: stay confident. I looked. I looked at Tristan Hill, and

929
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: I looked at the markets Lawrence, and I looked at

930
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: these guys working out. They seem to be healthy. So

931
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking they're being very, very cautious and how they're

932
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: trying to do these guys, and since they got a

933
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: million defensive linement and a million safeties in a million corners,

934
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: when a guy get kind of nicked, they don't panic.

935
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: They just keep rotating guys in trying to see what

936
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: they can do. They kind of build a team. They

937
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: keep telling you they got eight hundred packages and all

938
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: of this fellas if Michael Parsons continue at this pace

939
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: and they put on the pass come Wednesday, and he

940
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: continued to grow, grow, grow. Don't take this kid off

941
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: the field if he's if you spent of what a

942
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: twelve tick? If this dude coming off the field talking

943
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: about a package. We drafted the wrong guy, We drafted

944
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. We keep bringing up this word dog.

945
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: And when I look at this defense and I know

946
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out exactly who the dog is

947
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna be. I look at this defense and I see

948
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: one dog out there that I have no question marks around,

949
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: and that's Randy Gregory. And I'm hearing the reports out

950
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: of there that Randy Gregory is untouchable. Right now, what

951
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: have you seen from him? I know the paths aren't on.

952
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: I know they get on in a couple of days.

953
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: But is he the dog that were that everybody's talking

954
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: about right now? Is he really that untouchable? And what

955
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: are you seeing? The first time we saw him, he was, man,

956
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, put a chain on this dude

957
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: because he was he was like, well he don't broke

958
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: loose and fighting up everybody the bucket day. Man, I'm like,

959
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, if you ain't coming out of their houses

960
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: called Gregory the third practice, you messed around the rent

961
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: into Tyrone Smith food and figured not that's a reality.

962
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: He put him in the dog pown. He's got his

963
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: tail Kno tough, but just a little bit down. Leadership

964
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: again pulled back on those expectations a little bit. If

965
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: you put the folks out there with the truck many

966
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: now that being an evaluator talent, the wain that you

967
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: you are, man, I gotta ask you you you have

968
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: your hand on this team and you can see them directly.

969
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: So as far as the talent level the roster that

970
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: you're seeing, I just got three categories for you, obviously,

971
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: one being a division title, the second being a going

972
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: to Carbo and then the third being winning the Super Bowl.

973
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Where these guys right now, as far as the talent

974
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: level that you're looking at out there, NFC's that that

975
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: that they can win the NFC's and uh, the Maroon team.

976
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: I can't call it names because I always Washington Football

977
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: team name. Oh yeah, yeah that team. Yeah, that is

978
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: the team that is the trouble And Jesse talks about

979
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: it all doing off season because I was trying to

980
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: give it to the Giants and think about who has

981
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: the best quarterback? We have the best quarterback. Who has

982
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: the next best quarterback? That's the Washington team. That's the

983
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: Washington team. They got the defense. They are the most

984
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: complete team I think in the league. And the way

985
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: coach Vera's gonna control try to control the game and

986
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: take the air out of the game by running the

987
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: ball by play action pass. He's gonna put his defense

988
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: in position with two to three minutes left in the game,

989
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: beat my defense, whereas we're gonna be trying to put

990
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: our offense in position to win the game with two

991
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: or three minutes left. Beat my offense. So this is

992
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a big team. I don't know who Philadelphia is.

993
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean they just over there there. I don't think

994
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: they know who who they are, the Giants trying to

995
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: figure out how who Jones is. But the NFCS, if

996
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: everybody started talking about other things other than the NFCS.

997
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: So that's not to lose our mind. We don't know

998
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: who we are on defense, we don't have identity. We

999
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: don't even know if we're running a three four or

1000
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: four and three. And to coach reveal this sing in

1001
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: preseason now, now, Nate, I appreciate you coming on and

1002
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: joining us. On hanging with the boys. I appreciate y'all

1003
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1005
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1006
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Speaker 1: and if I know you, Nate, like the way that

1007
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1008
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Speaker 1: just driving, no no now watching clothes to day man.

1009
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1014
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1015
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1016
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1017
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1018
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1019
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1020
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1023
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Speaker 1: hanging with them. I appreciate your nate. Look, we got

1024
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Speaker 1: that's right there is where we're gonna take a break.

1025
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Speaker 1: We're gonna break right there because hey, Jesse feel like

1026
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1027
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Speaker 1: final segment of Hanging with the Boys. I appreciate y'all

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Speaker 1: for letting us all. I mean, come on now, we

1073
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of made this storm and they pod our pod

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: a little bit. Hey, let us in here. We're kind

1075
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: of growing roots. I'm looking to replace Nate, so I

1076
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: got up stairs. I might have to flex a little

1077
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: bit and see if I can't. You know, I don't know,

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00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: both y'all can stay. It's like what was that movie

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00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: when the Joker broke the pool stick? Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: the room and whoever comes out is this one left?

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm like, I'm like Connor Williams, Man, I

1082
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: feel so much better with cart Man. Yeah whatever, I'm

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00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: just saying. But look, man, for this final segment, I

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00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: got something pretty nice for y'all and I think y'all

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: gonna love love this. I labeled it what the heck? Oh,

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00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: what the heck is? So basically what the heck moment

1087
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: that has happened at camp so far? And I'll start

1088
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: with with mind what the heck moment was? And it

1089
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: was an interview with Dan Quinn talking about the defense

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: and he alluded to a traveling cornerback traveling with the

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Speaker 1: number one. And to me, we we've thrown this word

1092
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: around a lot on this on this podcast of dogs,

1093
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: And to me, if you have a guy that's gonna travel,

1094
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: he better be a dog because week in and week out,

1095
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: he has to bring his lunch because he has their

1096
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: best guy, I Trayvon Diggs. I love the kid. I

1097
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: think what he did in year one was exciting for

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00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: what we needed. We had a lot of guys leave.

1099
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: But I thought he got baptized a few times during

1100
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: the season, and I don't know how much better he's

1101
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: got and I'm willing to see that maybe they know

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00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: something that we don't. But what the heck moment was

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Speaker 1: saying that we have a guy that's gonna travel with

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Speaker 1: number one? What say you? I like it? And here's

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00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: why I like it. If we can find a guy

1106
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: and this is what you use training camp for. You

1107
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 1: use training camp for these experiments and trying to figure

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00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: out do we actually have this? Can we have a

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: guy that can travel all over the field. If I

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 1: can have that, and I'm confident that this guy's gonna

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00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: be able to maybe not because it's very hard to

1112
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: lock someone down nowadays, but to slow them down to

1113
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: create a little bit disruption. Now I can do so

1114
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: much other stuff, but the other guys, because you gotta

1115
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: have an exciting plan set up for Randy Gregory and

1116
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: take Lawrence. I need those guys being moved around. Let

1117
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: those guys go all that kind of great stuff. But

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00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: if I'm able to say, all right, you got there one,

1119
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: now I can do some wild and crazy stuff with

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Speaker 1: the ten other guys because I'm confident that one is

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: going to be locked down. So I like it. I

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00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: want to. I want to I want to see the

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Speaker 1: experiment and whether it's digs or whether it's Kelvin Joseph,

1124
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: then hey, let's go. Let's see. I have a football

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Speaker 1: question for a technical they know, they say, you know,

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Speaker 1: if some cornerbacks just play one side of the field,

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's the technique they're used to. So when

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Speaker 1: you have a guy who's following on one, I assume

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Speaker 1: he's playing both sides of the field, don't you gotta

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Speaker 1: have a second guy who can play both sides of

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: the field. How tough? Is that makes sense what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean in a sense, yes, right, but

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00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: you need one to be you know, you need one

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Speaker 1: to be that guy. I think if we're going to

1135
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Speaker 1: go that round, I like, I like the concept of it, right.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the concept is amazing because now as an offense,

1137
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator, you cannot gain the advantage by running motion.

1138
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: You cannot gain the advantage by shifting um and you know,

1139
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: being on pre snap, if we're going to go that direction,

1140
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: I believe, um, obviously I need to get eyes on site.

1141
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: But I would think immediately Kelvin Joseph. Reason why it

1142
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: is because he's more shifty than not empathy round. I think, Kelvin,

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00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: I I need to see. I need to get eyes

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00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: on site. Okay, I need to get eyes on site. Um,

1145
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: But from some of the things I saw OTAs, I

1146
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: believe that Kelvin Joseph is a little bit more physical,

1147
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more feisty, a little bit more of

1148
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: a gnat, right, And you know you don't and he

1149
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: has he has. He has a quickness too, right. So

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Speaker 1: it's as far as somebody being a passing kind of

1151
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: being in somebody's hip pocket the whole time. That's really

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. Um. You know you got through.

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00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: That's why you're investing all on all these safeties to

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Speaker 1: be able to make sure they don't get beat over

1155
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: the top. You need them to be able to cover

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: everything undernea, so you're gonna give them help. And then

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00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: obviously you got your front seven and make sure that

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Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't have time to throw the rock all the

1159
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Speaker 1: way down the field. So I'm thinking right off top

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph, because we know he could played the outside.

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: We know he could play the slot most of the

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00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: times in order to gain the disadvantage or to gain

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: the advantage as offensive player, you're gonna motion your big

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00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: your number one receiver into what the slot? Yes, right,

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: So if you have a guy who's not comfortable playing

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Speaker 1: in the slot, he can't be your your dB one.

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Speaker 1: Right And at the end of the day that that

1168
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: is a tall order. Like very few guys are comfortable

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: being the shadow guy. That's a lot of space you

1170
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Speaker 1: have to cover. I mean, think about the names that

1171
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: have done that, the Rivers Islands, the champ Bailey's, the

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Speaker 1: Don Sanders, and I mean those are few and far

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Speaker 1: in between. Those are one namers, right, like like like

1174
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: your point, like if you haven't got to the point

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: where you can go revers oh yeah, Champ, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: de promp Yeah, can I call him coach coach, coach,

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00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: coach Sanders, whatever you want to come. But I like

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00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: the concept experience with it, use this time and train

1179
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: the camp to kind of work the kinks out with it.

1180
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Do I feel that we have a Rivas Island or

1181
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: champ Ord problem with this defense? Heck? I like the

1182
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: concept to throw another kind of tool in your toolbox

1183
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: to work when it played with throughout the season. What

1184
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: about you, let's let's talk about your your your heck, yeah, heck, no,

1185
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: what has it been your Well, yeah, we kind of

1186
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: already talked about it. I mean, the the what the

1187
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: heck is going on in the Safeties, I guess because

1188
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: you're seeing Brian brought us tweeted out just yesterday. I

1189
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: think you know, it's a mess, you know, and here

1190
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: we are. It's a position that we knew is trouble,

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01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: and we wanted them to do something in the draft,

1192
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: and again they didn't, and we you know, hopefully they're

1193
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: addressing it, hopefully the guys they brought him to do it.

1194
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: But I think that was when they were I saw

1195
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: that they're bringing in Hooker. It's like, is this we're

1196
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: doing this again? Did you say bringing in what a hooker? Ok? Sorry,

1197
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: mister hooker, I don't think I said it. Listen, sometimes

1198
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: you gotta just pay for sometimes starting a camp ive.

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01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to just pay for it quickly. Sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, well let me keep let me keep this going,

1201
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: let me keep this going. I got this min what

1202
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: the heck was? Zeke Elliott was in an interview yesterday

1203
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: with the Flagstiff station on the Sean and I j

1204
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: a matter of fact this morning and he he he

1205
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: mentioned the food that he liked that I've never heard

1206
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Speaker 1: of before in my life. It's called a Mick gang bang.

1207
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: What what is that? Yeah? Where are we going? Yeah?

1208
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: So they asked Zeke what was what the weight loss

1209
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: and everything? He said, what was the one thing that

1210
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: you had to cut out of your diet, you know,

1211
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: this offseason? And he gave he gave a shout out

1212
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: to his chef, Chef Hoppy, but he said he had

1213
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: to give up the Mick gangbangs. And what a big

1214
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: gang bang is? It's uh, a Mick Doubell cheeseburger. You

1215
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: separate it, and then you add a mic chicken. No

1216
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: doubt I can see that. So he said he could

1217
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: throw down like two or three of these mcgang bangs

1218
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: and he would eat him at twelve thirty one o'clock

1219
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Speaker 1: in the morning. It's it's the beef is set tripping

1220
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Speaker 1: with the chicken. There you go, you' you can't. I'm

1221
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: only telling you what Dick Elliott said. He calls it

1222
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: a Mick gang bang. And so you have to order

1223
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: them a chicken, right, you have what are the chickens?

1224
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: MC chicken separate from the mcdubell. You split them, you

1225
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: add a chicken, you bring it together. You might want

1226
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: to put some frowers in there, whatever, But that's a

1227
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: mick gang bang, man, let me tell you. And so

1228
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: before we go, you know the hookers and and and

1229
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: and and all that. You can add a mcgang bang

1230
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: into the way the way that my stomach is set up.

1231
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: If I ate that I would do there's not a

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Speaker 1: restruct No that, dude, I said, dude, there's not that.

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01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: There's not a restroom in America that would be safe

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01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: with me that I would be. I would be tied

1235
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: to that thing. Come on, give me what the heck

1236
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I'm not even gonna try to

1237
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: talk that. Oh man, I'm not sure I have one

1238
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: right now. It's not sure I have one right now. Um,

1239
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: I definitely can't talk with the heck you just talked about.

1240
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: You gonna go get him a gangang later on. I'm

1241
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: definitely not do I'm vegetarian, actually, uh so, I'm definitely

1242
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: not gonna be doing that. You can get like what

1243
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: it called impossible burgers. I do, though, And what do

1244
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: they call for the chicken? Do they call it? Do

1245
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: they have a don't have a vegan chicken chain? No,

1246
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: not yell all right, but yeah, I don't. I don't

1247
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: have a what the heck right now. I apologize you

1248
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: what the heck is what we just had. I can't.

1249
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm still wrapping my mind around this. Yeah, it's all

1250
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: good saying. I got it, I got it. You're there,

1251
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: we can have the what the heck. Well, listen, guys,

1252
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: this has been so much fun. I appreciate y'all allowing

1253
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: me to come on and host the show. Hopefully I

1254
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to do it. Ain't appreciate. Yeah, I

1255
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: appreciate Shannon. Thank you for making this job look harder

1256
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: than what it really is, so that you actually are engaged. Shannon.

1257
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: Shannon just opened the show. We take over, he checks out,

1258
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: and it comes back at the end of the show.

1259
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: So you asked you way better than Shannon. Keeping the

1260
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: fun take a shot to everybody. This is what I do. Nate, Shannon,

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