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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagot. Most importantly, you argue, you are hopefully here,

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Speaker 4: which makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: If you are joining us for our strange news program.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to get this guys, the very last day of

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Speaker 4: June twenty twenty five. It's June thirtieth when this publishes,

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Speaker 4: So knowing that we are recording on the twenty fifth,

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Speaker 4: how do you guys see the next week going? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: roll the dice. We had a fascinating conversation and just

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Speaker 4: before we rolled today regarding a bit of controversy with

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Speaker 4: the Hot Ones. And we're not referring to whatever you

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Speaker 4: think other than the show facile material. Oh wow, that's

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Speaker 4: really good. Yeah, we talked. We were talking off air

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Speaker 4: about the Roan. We were talking about the show Hot Ones.

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Speaker 4: How would we describe the show hot Ones.

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Speaker 5: Weaponized hot sauces for interview photo op situation.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's an interview show where people eat increasingly spicy

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Speaker 4: or hot wings while they are a questions right, and

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Speaker 4: the interviewer is very good.

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Speaker 5: It's a brilliant concept too. I mean, it really does

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Speaker 5: disarm you. And and then it says a lot about

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Speaker 5: a person how they're able to proceed when under duress.

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Speaker 4: To that degree that Now, Matt, let's let's go to you,

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Speaker 4: because you hipped us to the controversy. What's what's going

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Speaker 4: on with the hottest of Ones?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, guys, I did that thing where you

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Speaker 2: watch a YouTube video where there's actually a human being

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Speaker 2: a group of human beings doing some real research, And

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Speaker 2: they tested all of the hot Ones sauces at the

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Speaker 2: time when the video came out, and they found that

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Speaker 2: the Scoville units measured on the scale as you go up,

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Speaker 2: because the concept of the shows they get spicier as

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Speaker 2: you go, so the capsaicin levels will be higher each

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Speaker 2: sauce you try next. And according to the findings of

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Speaker 2: this one independent study, the capsaicin levels in the two

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Speaker 2: sauces after to bomb are nowhere near as high as

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Speaker 2: to bomb beyond insanity. So it's just a little bit

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Speaker 2: strange to imagine the last dabbing thing happening right at

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Speaker 2: the end. Maybe they should put the bomb as the

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Speaker 2: final sauce. That's what I would recommend.

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Speaker 5: There is the one that people are always like about

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Speaker 5: to puke after trying it. Everyone describes it as being

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Speaker 5: the most disgusting thing they've ever tasted, And I just

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Speaker 5: don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm halfway through my bottle of it

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Speaker 2: and I still love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you put it on everything? Early?

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Speaker 2: Everything?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad to know you're not just like pouring

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Speaker 4: it in a shot glass and.

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Speaker 2: No, because of it raw. The taste alone is not great,

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Speaker 2: but I will I think you will find if you

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Speaker 2: put it together with other things right and just a

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Speaker 4: And speaking of exciting, without breaking news, we are going

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Speaker 4: to have a bit of a grab bag exploration here.

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Speaker 4: Please check out our earlier conversation about shadow diplomacy, which

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Speaker 4: unfortunately just becomes more and more timely as the days progress.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about microdrones, We're going to get

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Speaker 4: into some pharaohs, curses, extinction, crises, mysterious anti body science.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about cannibalism. We're going to talk

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Speaker 4: about an alligator Alcatraz, and space and probability science, lightning

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Speaker 4: strike me again, and then of course cannibals. But before

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Speaker 4: we do any of that, let's say we take a

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Speaker 4: quick break for a word from our sponsors and then

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Speaker 4: go check our own internal Schoville units. You guys feeling hot.

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Speaker 3: Always and bother, and we have returned.

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Speaker 4: We had a folks, We're gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: We're recording in the southeast of the United States. I

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Speaker 4: For a lot of people in certain parts of the world,

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Speaker 4: the summer means mosquitoes, right, the summer means bucks. And

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Speaker 4: get this, the newest news coming out of China shows

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Speaker 4: us that you can't even trust the skeeters at this point.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have heard about this,

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Speaker 4: but a military Robotics Lab in China has created what

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Speaker 4: they call microdrones, and from far enough away they look

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Speaker 5: More sci fi y'all coming into being.

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Speaker 2: I'm so angry the birds. They came for us first

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Speaker 2: with the birds, right, No, or was it cats a

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Speaker 3: On ridiculous history bats.

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Speaker 4: The cat operation was unsuccessful. The bat thing was a

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Speaker 5: Dolphins with fricking lasers strapped to their heads.

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Speaker 4: But in both those cases that we're mentioning here, those

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Speaker 4: nailed it there with the idea of things that look

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Speaker 2: Dude, Ben, I am looking at a picture that you

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Speaker 2: shared in the link here of this thing. It's hard

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man.

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Speaker 4: The convenient phrase now in English is microdrone. This was

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Speaker 4: developed at the National University of Defense Technology, or NUTTED no, seriously,

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Speaker 2: Believe or is it nude?

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Speaker 3: Either one is hilarious, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Ten ten the duos island ten ten.

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Speaker 3: Uod no notes.

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Speaker 4: We love your language here as we're saying, this is

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Speaker 4: the longstanding dreams of trade craft. We also have to

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Speaker 4: realize that the nation of China went public with this, right,

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Speaker 4: Uncle Ji approved of this being reported to the world,

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Speaker 4: which means one of two things. Not mutually exclusive, but

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Speaker 4: it means one of two things. One this is propaganda

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Speaker 4: agit prop meant to frighten people. Or two this has

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Speaker 3: Literally. And these little guys do.

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Speaker 3: And they are.

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Speaker 4: So so tiny. They are increasingly common in various fields

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Speaker 4: of interest, we could say, and there the applications probably

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Speaker 4: how cool it would be if you are a documentarian, right,

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Speaker 4: or you're James Cameron type and you want to you

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Speaker 4: want to fly your little guy into a place where

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Speaker 4: it's not safe for humans to film, or where it's

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Speaker 3: I'm sure these little guys are too right.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I imagine so until the economy of

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: You can, let's say a building collapses, Let's say an

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Speaker 4: You know, we're not too far away from putting a

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Speaker 5: One thing I thought was interesting in terms of the

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Speaker 5: would imagine the recon possibilities with these things would be

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Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, the problems are similar to other

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Speaker 5: Uh, that is that that is the limiting factor and

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Speaker 2: But I guys, I I have a clear image in

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Speaker 2: And you're just making a delivery and it just looks

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Speaker 4: So this is this is my proposal. First off, you

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Speaker 4: could learn more about this strange news in is like

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Speaker 4: the South China Morning Post or the Week. The week

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Speaker 4: should be free to read online. This this came out

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Speaker 4: knew it was in the wind. Here is the proposal

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Speaker 4: I have, and I'm gonna turn this into a pitch

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Speaker 4: meeting and want to hear from you guys. First off,

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Speaker 4: all technology, as it progresses, becomes closer and closer to

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Speaker 4: With that in mind, here's the pitch. What if we

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Speaker 4: can beat the battery weight problem by somehow creating a

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Speaker 4: from humans. What if we can teach it to bite

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Speaker 5: I do also wonder, like I'm not a scientist in

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Speaker 3: I'm still kind of blown away.

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Speaker 5: You can just set your phone down on a thing

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Speaker 5: and it charges it sort of, you know, directly by osmosis.

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Speaker 5: I imagine there could be advances in that where perhaps

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Speaker 3: I just wonder, Ben.

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Speaker 2: I love your idea, and it's terrifying it. It creates

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Speaker 2: such a misery in my mind. What if you did

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Speaker 5: Well, then you pitch this story to me as something

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Speaker 4: They're not as amazing as fungus. This is where we

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Speaker 4: Right, So, if you're out in the woods and you're

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Speaker 5: Is there any further info about that, Like, are they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent questions. So you can read the study in detail.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned, guys. As I mentioned before on the show,

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Speaker 2: Not well, I mean, the environment itself in the Everglades

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Speaker 4: So why did they pick the Everglades. Is this like

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Speaker 3: Per year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, on a yearly basis.

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Speaker 4: We are collectively being sarcastic because ICE is Ice is

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Speaker 4: So as you can imagine, folks, Matt Noll, Dylan and

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Speaker 2: And speaking of things that sound sarcastic, let's jump to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, temporarily.

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Speaker 2: Nowhere to go, nowhere to hide.

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Speaker 2: your heart, your body, everything, it just hurts. It's just

442
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: not being good to other human beings. Speaking of stuff

443
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: that's not good for human beings because all of this,

444
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: you know, presents may your existential dread. Let's jump to

445
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: the moon and asteroids finally, woo jump into another British

446
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: paper here The Guardian. We love The Guardian. Giant asteroid

447
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: could crash into Moon in twenty thirty two, firing debris

448
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: towards Earth.

449
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: Good.

450
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: Good, I'm doing the old brumpy cat bean. I got

451
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: a headache with all the massive conspiratorial injustice in Florida,

452
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: and so now you know, I'm I'm I'm kind of

453
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: pro asteroid.

454
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Speaker 5: Honestly, you're a doom bringer today, Matthew.

455
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I don't mean to be. I'm just

456
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: these are yes, sir again, these are these are just

457
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: news stories that pop out in pretty prominent places, right right,

458
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: So all of us we're paying attention to the news.

459
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Everything you talked about in the previous segment, Ben, we

460
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: gotta put all that through our heads. We gotta put

461
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: all of this stuff through our heads and then just

462
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: keep living, like you know, the groceries need to get

463
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: be got. I'm sorry, I don't I can't speak anymore.

464
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: Millions of people are dying, but let's make sure to

465
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: answer that email for marketing.

466
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: And I think that's absolutely true.

467
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Speaker 5: But it's also sort of the nature of humanity in

468
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 5: the world, right there's always, like saying, stuff going on everywhere,

469
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 5: and if it's not directly on people's doorsteps, it's pretty

470
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: easy to put on blinders to it.

471
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Speaker 3: So I just for sure, yeah.

472
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Speaker 4: Yeah, first way, the way I've said in the past,

473
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: and I like to see this when whenever we're helping

474
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: people to exercise empathy, it's it's crucial to remember that

475
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: the world is ending for someone at every second, every juncture,

476
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: you know, and we hope everybody makes it through this show.

477
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: Let me go check the sky real quick. What's up

478
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: with this asteroid?

479
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Speaker 2: Okay, asteroid? You don't need to be too worried about

480
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: this thing. You might remember. Its name is twenty twenty four.

481
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: Why are four now? I think it was earlier this

482
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: year as well as a little bit last year, there

483
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: was talk of this quote city killer asteroid that is

484
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Speaker 2: fairly large. When it was discovered to have roughly a

485
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Speaker 2: three percent chance of colliding with Earth.

486
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Speaker 3: There was a.

487
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Speaker 2: Whole thing that happened planetarily, with the humans who work

488
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: on spacecraft, people who work in rocketry, and people who

489
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: work in observatories attempting to find a way to prevent

490
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Speaker 2: a collision. Right, let's say that tiny, little three percent chance,

491
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Speaker 2: we are somehow actually in that window, and how do

492
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Speaker 2: we make this thing not hit Earth or at least

493
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Speaker 2: reduce the potential impact that it's going to have on

494
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Speaker 2: the planet. It was a whole big deal. Then earlier

495
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Speaker 2: this year the chances were reduced from three percent down

496
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Speaker 2: to zero point zero zero one seven percent chance of

497
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Speaker 2: this thing with Earth. And then the asteroid made its

498
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Speaker 2: way around the Sun because it orbits the Sun and

499
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: it got out of view, so things like James Webb

500
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: telescope can't get a really good picture of it anymore.

501
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Observations and calculations can't be done in the same way.

502
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: So there's another group of folks who came through some

503
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Speaker 2: researchers from a couple of different Canadian universities who were

504
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: looking at it and looking to see if it could

505
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Speaker 2: potentially impact the Moon. And they put through, you know,

506
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of different scenarios with the orbit on how

507
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: it could collide with the Moon, what it would look like,

508
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: and they found that there is a very again, very

509
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Speaker 2: very small chance likelihood rather that this asteroid will collide

510
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: with the Moon. And then they thought, well, what would

511
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: that actually look like? What would happen on the Moon

512
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: if a you know, a city killer asteroid strikes it.

513
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: Could it change the Moon's course just slightly enough to

514
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: have an effect on Earth? No, probably not, but it

515
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: would create a giant crater on the Moon, which would

516
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: have ejecta a lot of stuff flying off of the

517
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: surface of the Moon. In those scenarios, how many would

518
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: be Earth facing, how much ejecta and debris would fly

519
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: at the Earth. They did all these calculations. They did

520
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: find that it's mostly teeny tiny debris. They would be

521
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: heading towards Earth if again, very small percent chance of

522
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: this could happen. But if it happens, it would be

523
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: like shooting out billions of teeny tiny little bullets that

524
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: will just burn up in the atmosphere if they do

525
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: in fact impact Earth. But there is a potential for

526
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: them to strike satellites and things that are in orbit

527
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: above the Earth before they burn up.

528
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: By far the more salient concern. Right, we already know

529
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: that Earth is how do we portray it brutally and

530
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: accurately previous episodes and conversations. If you are an extraterrestrial

531
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Speaker 4: or a non human intelligence and you happen to pass

532
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: by this solar system, Earth will stand out because it

533
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: looks like the bad house in the neighborhood. It's already

534
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: surrounded by junk. There's a lot of stuff to hit,

535
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. There are a bunch of

536
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: cars on their proverbial cinder blocks. Just some of them

537
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: are on fire, right on fire. Some of them are

538
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: in slowly decaying orbit. This will in the scenario that

539
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: these researchers are describing this will create a situation where

540
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Speaker 4: it may be virtually impossible to launch out from the

541
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Speaker 4: terar and surface.

542
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: Yes, because some of the debris would act as projectiles,

543
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: right like hitting the metal objects up there, causing havoc,

544
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: but others would just get caught in the orbit of

545
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: the Earth. And now we've got a bunch of the

546
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Moon orbiting around our planet right doing the same thing.

547
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Then you're talking about just clogging up all the places

548
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: where you can either get out if you're shooting a

549
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: rocket out, or put another satellite up. It's really creepy

550
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: because they estimate there'd be roughly a one kilometer in

551
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: diameter crater that would be created, and that would produce

552
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: millions of kilograms of the surface of the Moon shooting

553
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: out at us. It is really scary. Again, it is

554
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: a teeny tiny percent chance that this could happen.

555
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so shout out to everybody who plays scratcher lottery tickets.

556
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Today maybe the day.

557
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: It might be the day, and you can read all

558
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: about that in the Guardian, by the way, And if

559
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: you are getting a scratch off lottery ticket, if you

560
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: are thinking about probabilities, you are thinking about ways that

561
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: the earth could end, that you could die, all that stuff. Well,

562
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: here's a terrifying story out of Florida and it speaks

563
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 2: to all of this stuff. It's from The Guardian as well.

564
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: Man on honeymoon dies after being struck by lightning on

565
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: a Florida beach. Already, it's a terrifying and tragic story.

566
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: This is a twenty nine year old man named Jake

567
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: that got struck by lightning on New Smyrna Beach in Florida.

568
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Here's the part that's kind of freaky. He was just,

569
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, waiting in the water there on the beach.

570
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: There's a blue sky above him. There's a thunderstorm out

571
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: far in the distance that's occurring where you know, you

572
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: know where you can hear the thunder, but you're not

573
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: even really noticing much of the lightning. It's not that

574
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: big a deal. It's out in the distance. Yeah, right,

575
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: He's standing there in the water. Somehow, somehow a lightning

576
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: strike hits him standing on that beach from that storm

577
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: that is miles away, and he, you know, he is

578
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: taken to the hospital and he passes away. It's just

579
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: a a really scary thing to think about There's that

580
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: old adage that I don't know if you guys remember

581
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: hearing this at like a public pool or something, or

582
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: maybe a meteorologist saying it on TV. This concept of

583
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: when the thunder roars go indoors. It's something that we

584
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: used to repeat all the time, especially when we were

585
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: doing like marching band and when we were out on

586
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: a field, like a big open field doing stuff. The

587
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: concept is, if you can hear the thunder, you need

588
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: to get to shelter because just the fact that the

589
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: sound can travel to your location means that the light

590
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: and the energy can also be transferred all the way.

591
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: To your location and much more quickly.

592
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: Yes, and without warning too. It's sorry to bring that up, guz.

593
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm being a downer again. I'm next time,

594
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm bringing some happy I tried.

595
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: To interject earlier, and then I was like, never mind.

596
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 5: I just wanted to mention, if you want to kind

597
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 5: of more lighthearted slash action adventure ROMP version of what's

598
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: going on with the Moon, check out the movie Moonfall,

599
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: which is about a potential disaster involving the Moon leaving

600
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: its orbit and potentially having some secrecy surrounding what actually

601
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 5: is the moon?

602
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 4: And if you love books like we do, please check

603
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: out The Phenomenal The Phenomenal Story seventies. It's a novel

604
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: by just a fantastic author named Stevenson, and the first

605
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: line is one of my favorites in most of Western literature.

606
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: It starts with I kid you not. The first line

607
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 4: is something like, for no apparent reason, the moon exploded. WHOA, Yeah,

608
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: it's dope, dude, it's so good. I wish that I

609
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: wish people would adapt some of that guy's work, but

610
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: we're missing the point. Shout out to everybody who instantly

611
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: thought of the film Powder instantly thought of you know,

612
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: oldie songs like lightning Strike Me again. People can survive

613
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: being struck by lightning, but it is not a thing

614
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: that you want to purposely do because your odds of

615
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: survival are super not great. And I think one of

616
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: the one of the intertwining narratives in the show overall

617
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: here is that things can happen suddenly and quite quite quickly,

618
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: in a way that disallows preparation.

619
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah. Maybe the message is be prepared, but

620
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: don't let that be your primary focus, right, Be in

621
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: the moment and be prepared. But yeah, come on, can't

622
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: get too caught up on it. There's a one in

623
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand chants that you will be struck by lightning

624
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: if you live to be eighty years.

625
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: Also, as a consonant, optimistic nihilist, please note the odds

626
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: that Matt just gave us are higher than winning the

627
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: power ball.

628
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: Way higher, like so much higher. Yeah, hey, guys. Weirdly enough,

629
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: two golfers were also struck by lightning in that same

630
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: place in New Smyrna Beach on that same day. They

631
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: survived because it was an indirect strike, not in the

632
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: same way as Jake's unfortunate strike. All right, that's it

633
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: for me, guys, be right back afterword from our sponsors.

634
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 5: And we're back. And Ben, this one's for you, buddy.

635
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: Remember the Police Academy movies you're so fond of.

636
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, fuckero, you thought of me. What's going on?

637
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: What's going on?

638
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you. You've heard of the Second City,

639
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: storied improv comedy organization in Chicago. Of course, we all

640
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: have big fans produced show there. We did catch a

641
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 5: show there, and it's produced some incredibly talented folks and

642
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 5: kind of been a sort of a proving ground for

643
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 5: SNL performers over the years.

644
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: Of course, it also had its own TV.

645
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 5: Series I think way back in the day as well,

646
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 5: and yes, we did see an excellent improv comedy show.

647
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 5: The improv comedy, of course, can either be the best

648
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 5: thing you've ever seen in your life or the most

649
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: cringe worthy thing you've ever seen in your life, and

650
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 5: Second City is always the former in my opinion. Well,

651
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: they are doing a thing. Apparently They've always had a

652
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Speaker 5: bit of an outreach wing, kind of Second City Works

653
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 5: is what it's called, where they do sort of community

654
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Speaker 5: betterment projects, and this new initiative that they are participating

655
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: in involves teaching improv classes to police chiefs and police

656
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Speaker 5: personnel from across the country. It is a joint venture

657
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Speaker 5: between Second City and the University of Chicago's Crime Labs

658
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 5: Policing Leadership Academy. Okay, sorry if I Baiden's switched a.

659
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: Little bit there.

660
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: This isn't actually Police Academy the movie, but it is

661
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 5: a combination of policing and comedy. And we've all certainly

662
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: perhaps heard of improv classes being used as team building

663
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 5: exercises by corporations and stuff like that, and we've often

664
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: threatened to take some improv classes together, the three of us,

665
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 5: and I hope that that threat remains. I'd very much

666
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: like to do it, but I am fascinated as to

667
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: how the skills involved in doing improv comedy could in

668
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: fact benefit leaders in police organizations.

669
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's.

670
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: Easy to sort of poo poo something like this as

671
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: being a bit of a headline grabbing kind of publicity stunt.

672
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: You know, in time would we say performative one hundred percent,

673
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 6: we might say performative improvisational, even in a time where

674
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: the reputation of policing organizations have been suffering, And rightfully so,

675
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: you could kind of take a bit of a cynical

676
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 6: view of this and say that there's nothing to it,

677
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 6: that it really is just a way of sort of

678
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 6: deflecting some of the let's just call it what.

679
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: It is, downright, atrocities that many police organizations have been

680
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: guilty of across the country. Maybe atrocities is too strong

681
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 5: a word, but the very least injustices, right, So let's

682
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: just go into what the program actually is. Kelly Leonard,

683
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: who's the president of Creative Strategy, Innovation and Business development

684
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: of the second City called it yoga for social skills.

685
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: And there's a good article of the AP that it

686
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: actually quite in depth. And again one could look at

687
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: the headline and maybe even give the AP a bit

688
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: of a hard time for making this this kind of

689
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 5: feel good type piece. Comedy and crime fighting joined forces

690
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: for police learning leadership skills and images of like folks

691
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: laughing and yucking it up and having a good time.

692
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 5: And again, I'm trying not to take the cynical view here,

693
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 5: but just wanted to kind of address both sides. What

694
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: we were trying to do, she says, is get you

695
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: to listen to the end sentence. Kelly Leonard says as

696
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: she wraps up an improvisational exercise involving you're probably familiar

697
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 5: with this ben where participants have to say the next

698
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: word based on what the previous participants said. So it's

699
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 5: sort of like an exquisite corpse type game, but with wordplay.

700
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: What we're trying to do, she says, is get you

701
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: to listen to the end of the sentence. If my

702
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 5: arm was a sentence, when do most people stop listening?

703
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: Always the elbow, But then you're missing everything that goes

704
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 5: after and sometimes that's critical information. So I'm going to

705
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: stop there and just say I can see how these skills,

706
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 5: if truly taken to heart and treated, you know, with

707
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: respect and taken seriously, could help improve communication. Because a

708
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: lot of these things are top down kind of issues, right,

709
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: So you've got like leadership in place in some of

710
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 5: these police organizations, and that of course filters down to

711
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: the folks who are actually on the street. So you know,

712
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 5: having a little bit more ability to communicate properly and

713
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: hear different sides of an issue, and also maybe having

714
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 5: a little bit more perspective on some things could well

715
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: trickle down in a positive way. That could not only

716
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 5: help improve communication with folks on the street dealing with,

717
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 5: you know, certain situations that arise, but it also could

718
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: potentially reduce the kinds of situations that seem to stem

719
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 5: often tragic situations that seem to stem from reacting too quickly,

720
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 5: missstaking something like, for example, someone being mistaken as having

721
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: a weapon and being fired upon, et cetera, and just

722
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 5: maybe creating a little more of an environment where people

723
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: are paying attention to others as opposed to having preconceived

724
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: notions on what is happening I'm rambling.

725
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: A little bit. Guys.

726
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of a tricky situation in Ben

727
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 5: and I know that you're fascinated by this, and you

728
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 5: have probably the most improv background of any of us.

729
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 5: But what do you guys think publicity, stunt or potentially

730
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 5: game changing partnership?

731
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 4: Partnership is a tricky word. You see how I'm playing

732
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: the game already.

733
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.

734
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: I think you nailed it there, Noel, I wouldn't call

735
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 4: that rambling nor word solid, as you noted. I specifically

736
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: am on record for a number of years arguing that

737
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: everybody should, across industries, across demographics and cultures, take some

738
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 4: sort of basic improv hangout because one it's fun, Two,

739
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: it makes you a better listener, and three, especially if

740
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: it is if it is in the remit of your job,

741
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: then your company, you know, your corporate overlords will pay

742
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: for it. That being said, I do want to go

743
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: on record apologizing for that time I talked with a

744
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: venture capitalist about improv and then we all had to

745
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: do it.

746
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah at our tilly, do you remember that? Vaguely? I do?

747
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: Again to that point, I mean, this is definitely a

748
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: thing that is used as team building and as communication

749
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 5: kind of leadership training in corporations, and even then it

750
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 5: sometimes feels like a bit of a hey, we're gonna

751
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: have fun todaly with the improv.

752
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: Guys a bit insincere times and feel that way.

753
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's why I want to fence about it.

754
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you nailed it, though, I would think with

755
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: the point that there are serious we said, top down,

756
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: let's call it systemic. There are serious systemic issues with

757
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: the way that the concept of rule of law is

758
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: interpreted and deployed and actioned here in the United States

759
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: and the US people in the US hate to hear it,

760
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 4: but you're not unique nor special in that respect, right,

761
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: there are problems all the world around, and so perhaps

762
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: in step with things like having mental health specialist on

763
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: call instead of folks who are just having to be

764
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: first responders not trained in how to interact in those situations,

765
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 4: the improv stuff can help. I would say, if we're

766
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: being positive about it, well, if we're being negative, as

767
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: you said, artificial, performative, insincere, good headline. If we're being positive,

768
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: then we would say every little bit helps when there's

769
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: a serious problem. Right when the boat is sinking. It

770
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 4: can feel foolish to be the guy with a cup

771
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: just like scooping water and throwing it out, but it

772
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: does help, even if it's a little bit.

773
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 5: I do agree, and I just want to I just

774
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 5: want to say this and then I'm going to hear

775
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: what you have to say.

776
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: One of the quotes from.

777
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 5: A captain from Philadelphia about the program I think is interesting.

778
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 5: He said, the big thing for me was thinking about

779
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: the things we allow to happen because they've been that

780
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 5: way before us, and the ways we can change the

781
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 5: culture of our district by changing the thinking around why

782
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: we do things, which again does sound a little bit

783
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: like a PR line, And I get it. All sounds

784
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 5: well and good, but I'd love to see more robust

785
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 5: data on whether these kinds of programs actually work. The

786
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 5: last thing, the crime Lab folks say they've actually done

787
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 5: some digging into this very thing. They found that district

788
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 5: and precinct captains have the largest potential impact on their

789
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 5: colleagues despite often receiving little leadership training for the job.

790
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 5: So that's a point that could be improved upon. First thing,

791
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 5: a precinct could have high marks for morale, community relationships,

792
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 5: or be making a dent in crime numbers, but if

793
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: the captain changes, those gains could plummet Researchers found even

794
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 5: in the community, the officers and everything else stayed the same.

795
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know, Matt, You've been quite on

796
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: this one. I'm curious to hear you know, if you

797
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 5: think I'm maybe being too hard on it or not

798
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 5: hard enough, or how you feel.

799
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: Well, that was going to be my question. I'd like

800
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: to know the real reasoning behind having the captains take

801
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: the courses rather than people who are actually going to

802
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: be interacting with human beings, you know, while on patrol

803
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: or something. I think that, Well, I again, I don't know.

804
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: I haven't done the research there. There's obviously some metrics

805
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: there that have been looked at before making the decision

806
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: to take the captains in and teach them the IMPROV classes.

807
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: I think the gaining of empathy is one of the

808
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: things that improv can teach you to do. Like or

809
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 2: not gaining of empathy, but the practice of to a degree, yes,

810
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: or at least that thing. Ben, you're talking about listening,

811
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: but we're really like actually listening to somebody and then

812
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: responding with within certain parameters, right, there's like there's rules

813
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: to improv where you've got to keep the game going,

814
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: which is, you know, you have to you have to

815
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: have a certain level of positivity and playfulness too, which

816
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: is nice because you're unlocking some of the inner child

817
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: stuff as well. I just they say that stuff about

818
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: the captains. I just don't see it as something that

819
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: the captains maybe would benefit the most from, but I

820
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: maybe I just don't know.

821
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, arguably, to interject your besiege, being at the point

822
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 4: of or being at the point in your career when

823
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: you attain the rank of captain means that you already

824
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: have some rhetorical, conversational, interpersonal acumen. Who I completely agree

825
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: with Matt's point, Like it goes back to what you

826
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 4: were saying the training, right, you can vilify people for

827
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: being in situations that they were not prepared for. They

828
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: were not trained to do that right. Like to Matt's

829
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 4: earlier example, there's nobody. There's a very small amount of

830
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: people on Earth who are trained and prepared for sudden

831
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 4: lightning strikes. It's just not a thing that comes up.

832
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 4: Like my earlier example about and again and again and again,

833
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 4: sorry wrestling alligators. You know what I mean, we've got

834
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: a nice through line here. I love the point that

835
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: you make too about about data.

836
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: Do you see all this.

837
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: As becoming something that might be replicated in other parts

838
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: of the country or do you is it dependent upond.

839
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: There are folks from all over the country participating, like

840
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: even this in Canada that have you know, participated in

841
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 5: this program. So the jury is perhaps out in terms

842
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: of real hard data on you know, whether this actually

843
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 5: improves crime rates or reduces negative interactions, you know, between

844
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 5: police and in the public or citizens. I will say

845
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 5: that I think it's funny in the photograph about comedy

846
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 5: and police, the show What's it called? Brooklyn ninety nine,

847
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 5: and in many other examples of you know, police stations

848
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 5: depicted in the pop culture, the chief or the captain

849
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 5: is the most humorless character in the show. He is

850
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 5: the absolute straight man, and that, you know, creates a

851
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 5: lot of less and it's a great role for folks

852
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: to bounce off all the wackiness of Andy Sanmdbriggs character

853
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 5: and all of his colleagues. But the captain on the

854
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 5: show does not get the joke most of the time.

855
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 5: And that is usually the case when you see captains

856
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 5: to pick it. They're usually very hard nosed, very aggressive,

857
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 5: and very humorless. And so I do wonder if perhaps

858
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 5: injecting a little bit more levity and making them listen

859
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 5: a little bit more and improving communication and yes ending

860
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 5: a little bit could potentially have a benefit from the

861
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: top on down to the street level.

862
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: So well said, also, please, folks, if you're listening, don't

863
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: get into stand up.

864
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: It's a painful life unless you're really really good at it.

865
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sara, but then you have to be bad for

866
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: so long before you become good.

867
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: And you have to be so tough, you have to

868
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: not be sensitive.

869
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: And then I say that, But then I know there's

870
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 5: a lot of folks that push, push, push and make

871
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 5: it through and every heckle and every criticism absolutely hurts.

872
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: So what they might say.

873
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we love stand up, we love stand up comedy,

874
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: we love the high art of humor, empathy and wordplay.

875
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 4: And so I guess I should say, at least I'm

876
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: mainly joking when I tell people not to get into

877
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 4: stand up. It's just it's an investment of time. It's

878
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: like getting a pilot license. It will take longer than

879
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: you think. With that being said, shout out to our

880
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Speaker 4: colleague Sarah, who is just Sara France.

881
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's really doing great.

882
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 5: She's very funny and we've always liked you before she

883
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 5: went down that path, and we wish her the best

884
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 5: and hope to catch one of her sets out there

885
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: in Los Angeles very soon.

886
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Speaker 3: You know.

887
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 5: I looked at the time and I was like, sheez,

888
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Speaker 5: I've gone long, and then I realized that I was

889
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Speaker 5: last today.

890
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Speaker 3: I don't usually co last.

891
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Speaker 5: So I will just briefly mention two other stories. One

892
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: the headline says it all one of Putin's cannibal soldiers

893
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 5: killed comrade to.

894
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: Eat him for two weeks.

895
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Speaker 5: The Russian soldier ate comrade's body for two weeks to survive,

896
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Speaker 5: then died. That is according to an intercepted phone call

897
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Speaker 5: by Ukraine between two Russian soldiers reportedly revealing the incidents.

898
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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna read the quick and dirty about this

899
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Speaker 5: one from Kronin Zeitung. We have a German paper, and

900
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Speaker 5: the ranks of the Russian arm forces is likely to

901
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 5: be more and more horrifying. Now it seems that a

902
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 5: soldier has eaten his comrade for several weeks. The most

903
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 5: recent conversation intercepted by Ukrainian intelligence personnel is a real

904
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Speaker 5: crime novel. The Ukrainian military intelligence service is shocked in

905
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: a statement Russians would conduct cannibalism against each other. The

906
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 5: translation here is nick in for some clunky reading here,

907
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: But let me see if I can find one other

908
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: source that shed a little bit more light on this.

909
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 5: And we an all love the New York Post always,

910
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 5: but let's just they've collated a lot of.

911
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Speaker 3: Different sources relatively reasonably.

912
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 5: Here Russian soldiers kills eats comrade in a twisted attempt

913
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Speaker 5: to survive Ukraine War reporter. A Russian soldier on the

914
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Speaker 5: front lines in Ukraine murdered his comrade and ate the

915
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 5: corpse to survive the grim wartime conditions, only to end

916
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Speaker 5: up dying anyway. According to Kiev's military intelligence, a call

917
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Speaker 5: between two Russian soldiers who share the jar dropping story

918
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Speaker 5: of the cannibalistic Breloch who killed his countryman Foma was

919
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 5: allegedly intercepted by Ukraine's main directorate of intelligence. The quote here,

920
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Speaker 5: I'm just going to read it freeing hell. Brelock ate

921
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 5: him for me. Nobody went anywhere. Brelock took him out

922
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 5: and then ate him for two weeks.

923
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Speaker 3: Yike, Sorry, I.

924
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 5: Said I was going to be bringing the joy in

925
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 5: this segment. No way, Holy my bald skull. Was Braylock

926
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 5: really found as a two hundred, the other person replied,

927
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 5: using Soviet ara slang for a soldier found killed in action.

928
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

929
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Speaker 5: I mean, look, not trying to demonize Russian soldiers here.

930
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: It just is the kind of.

931
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Speaker 5: Thing that you just hear about so infrequently, and it

932
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 5: just really does cast such a pall over what is

933
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 5: already a horrific situation over there, you know, So I

934
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Speaker 5: just thought it was worth mentioning.

935
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Speaker 4: And also, folks, check out our earlier episodes on cannibalism.

936
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Speaker 4: It's always been a at best a short term solution.

937
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 4: You cannot survive for a long time on human flesh

938
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Speaker 4: if you are yourself human. It leads to something called

939
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 4: rabbit starvation. We are very fun at parties, huh.

940
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Speaker 5: Yup, But let's stand on a positive note, or at

941
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 5: least an interest. There's apparently a new blood type that's

942
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 5: been discovered. Scientists have identified a new blood group and

943
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Speaker 5: it is the world's rarest A frenchwoman from the Caribbean

944
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Speaker 5: island of Guadaloupe which is an island under French control,

945
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: has been identified as the only known carrier of a

946
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Speaker 5: new blood type, which is being called GUADA negative. Fifteen

947
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: years ago, during routine tests ahead of a surgery, her

948
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 5: blood was tested and determined to have contained some sort

949
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Speaker 5: of mutation, and so the French Blood Establishment has been

950
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: looking into it ever since, and now they're saying this,

951
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 5: the fs has just discovered the forty eighth blood group

952
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 5: system in the world. This discovery was officially recognized in

953
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Speaker 5: early June in Milan by the International Society of Blood Transfusion.

954
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Speaker 5: To the interesting part here, her genome was analyzed in

955
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 5: its entirety using high throughput DNA sequencing, which highlighted this

956
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 5: genetic mutation. She is the only person in the world

957
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 5: who is compatible with herself, said Theory pr a medical

958
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 5: biologist at that organization who was involved in the discovery

959
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: uh and described it as being very unusual.

960
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: They are the antibody in any kings.

961
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Speaker 5: So I'm not sure what this does for humanity, but

962
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 5: it is interesting and the fact that she is her

963
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 5: only potential blood donor not super great for this person

964
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 5: given a situation that would require transfusion new ingredients.

965
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: Same great taste exactly new blood.

966
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: Shout out, Matt, I thought of you reading this story

967
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 4: with dol brought it to us because Guada negative sounds

968
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: like a sick new flavor of monster energy.

969
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Like remember remember ja justa with guarana?

970
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: Yes? Y yeah like that yeative love that.

971
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. In that situation, genuinely, would you go and have

972
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: to set up some kind of private donation or something

973
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: to where you donate your own blood to be stored

974
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: so that it could be used in the invent of

975
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: an emergency fail in.

976
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Speaker 3: That come up?

977
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I don't know what family members.

978
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: Though, would work. I think it depends, right.

979
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 5: It does seem to be that it is exclusive to

980
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 5: this individual because of a mutation, so it's not it

981
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: would not work. Family members would not be able to donate,

982
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: So I think Matt's making a good point. It's not

983
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 5: addressed in any of the reporting that I read. The

984
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 5: name Guada negative, however, does refer to the island where

985
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 5: the patient comes from, and it is a phonetic you know.

986
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: Translation of that.

987
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 5: And while blood types are one thing, there are many

988
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 5: different blood groups and they have been identified and continue

989
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 5: to be identified due to the advent and escalation of

990
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: DNA sequencing, So new blood groups are being discovered all

991
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 5: the time. However, new blood types are exceedingly rare, right,

992
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: But there have been previous discoveries of rare let's call

993
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 5: them limited addition blood types.

994
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: In the past.

995
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: I think that's right, Benea for any fan of Guinness

996
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: Book of World Records or you know, consumption of blood. Uh,

997
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: there there are notable cases to your question, because you

998
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 4: asked an excellent question. Uh, what does this mean? How

999
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: does this apply? It teaches us something similar to what

1000
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 4: you're asking, Matt. It teaches us the importance of understoring

1001
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: our own blood.

1002
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: Keep it, keep it. No, we talked about it off air,

1003
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: and we're going to keep it because you should.

1004
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: Or send it to us, send us your blood. Why, okay,

1005
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: no sidetracking real quick, just since we're at the end here.

1006
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 4: Why does everybody want blood donations? Why aren't people just

1007
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: you know, reaching out and cold calling you and saying, hey,

1008
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: do you want some blood?

1009
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: M would be nice.

1010
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 5: I will say that there's a really interesting point that

1011
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 5: is made, and maybe it's obvious, but I just do

1012
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: want to bring this up. In the Smithsonian magazine piece,

1013
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 5: about this. It is European doctors who've been responsible for

1014
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 5: many innovations in medicine and medical science, who first began

1015
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 5: to attempt doing blood transfusions in the sixteen hundreds and

1016
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 5: just couldn't figure out why things often went so poorly.

1017
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 5: I mean, blood is blood, right, But then Karl Landsteiner

1018
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 5: in the early nineteen hundreds discovered that blood has types

1019
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 5: and groups. Discovery of blood groups, according to the Nobel

1020
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 5: Prize Twitter account, completely changed the view on blood transfusions,

1021
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: and it didn't take long before the first successful attempts

1022
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 5: were made.

1023
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: I just you love to see that.

1024
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 5: That'savity thought, what an aha moment, right, Like, why is

1025
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 5: everyone dying? It seems like it would work. Can you

1026
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 5: imagine being that person and just only wanting to help

1027
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 5: and continually running up against that problem and being absolutely frustrated,

1028
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: just banging your head against the wall and not knowing

1029
01:01:59,200 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 5: what to do.

1030
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: And you used to do it with genius HIGs and dogs.

1031
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 5: That's true, but I think there were definitely some disastrous

1032
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 5: human cases as well.

1033
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, call them areas of opportunity.

1034
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: Guys. Now I'm looking at objects around the room and

1035
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: just thinking, like, how much blood could I fit in

1036
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: the springles can and would it store?

1037
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: Let's find out.

1038
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 4: And check out Stuff of Genius for the difference between

1039
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: storing what we call whole blood storing plasma. Check out

1040
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 4: our episode on the Factor eight scandal, which shows us

1041
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: just how important blood donation remains in modern evenings and

1042
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 4: how dangerous it can become when we don't conduct science

1043
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: like this. So thank you very much Noel for bringing

1044
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: this to the fore. Was so much going on, it's

1045
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: easy to miss a lot of astonishing breakthroughs and discoveries,

1046
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: which is why we do strange news.

1047
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,960
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1048
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,320
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1049
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,120
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1050
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 4: like what about the Internet? That's still a thing, right, I.

1051
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1052
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