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Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crushed City Territory. I'm

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Speaker 2: here with Tyler Stafford and Josh Reddick. We're all three

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Speaker 2: in different locations, and all three of our locations have snow.

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Speaker 1: Houston.

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Speaker 2: Houston weirdly has snow right now, which is not a

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Speaker 2: sentence I ever thought. I'd say, Tyler, you're in DC

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Speaker 2: where there's not as much snow, which.

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Speaker 3: No, just just nasty ice everywhere. It's not nearly as fun.

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Speaker 2: And then Josh, you are in beautiful? Are you in Breckenridge?

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Speaker 1: Breckenridge, Colorado? Ten thousand feet up with about gosh that

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Speaker 1: they had snowed six inches last night and it was

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Speaker 1: negative fifteen when I climb into bed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's snowed four inches in Houston. The entire

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Speaker 2: city is shut down. So if you want to shut

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Speaker 2: down the fourth largest city in the nation, then just

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Speaker 2: dump you know, two inches of snow on the ground

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Speaker 2: and everything will grind to a halt. But that's why

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Speaker 2: we can. It's can do this. That's why we've got

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Speaker 2: all day to just talk and get this podcast done.

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Speaker 2: And I think today, Josh, we wanted to talk about

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Speaker 2: you know, we've talked a lot about Kyle Tucker's departure

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Speaker 2: this winter. Obviously, it's been the biggest storyline associated with

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Speaker 2: the Astros, and we've done a lot about, you know,

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Speaker 2: why the trade happened, and who Kyle Tucker was as

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Speaker 2: an astro kind of how he evolved. But I think

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Speaker 2: now it's time to move into what is left in

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Speaker 2: jobs out there. You know, Chas McCormick and Jake Myers

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Speaker 2: are obviously the two guys that are going to stand

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Speaker 2: to play the most, but as of right now, I

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Speaker 2: can't tell you who's gonna be in left field or

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Speaker 2: an opening day. There's some roster battles to be had

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Speaker 2: in camp. I guess, Josh outside looking in, how how

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Speaker 2: would you size up this outfield going into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I don't want to use

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Speaker 1: the word disappointing, because you know, when you look at

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Speaker 1: last year's team, you had Jake and Chaz splitting time

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Speaker 1: and now they're slotted to be everyday guys, and when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at it from a big business the numbers

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Speaker 1: just don't really add up for those guys to be

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Speaker 1: against you know, the extended playing time and all that

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Speaker 1: a move that needs to be made. I honestly, is

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Speaker 1: it you know? I think is it san Tandeer's not

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Speaker 1: signed right yet? Not yet.

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Speaker 2: He just agreed yesterday to terms with the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: He got the five years, ninety two and a half

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Speaker 2: million dollars. The Astros were never going to be in

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Speaker 1: Not enough for the numbers he just put up, So

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Speaker 1: take that out of the out of question. But I

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Speaker 1: I've obviously, you know, I don't who's I don't know

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Speaker 1: But I just think there's something that they need. It

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned ooh, sorry, you mentioned Chas McCormick.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's definitely got the potential to get back to

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Speaker 1: maybe not what he was twenty twenty three. The league

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Speaker 1: hadn't got a good feel for him yet. We saw

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Speaker 1: So he's just got to figure out those adjustments that

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Speaker 1: I think that's something that he needs to learn. You know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're I mean when you're hitting and you

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Speaker 3: know you're you're constantly making adjustments based on Okay, what's

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Speaker 3: how do you balance what you're good at naturally as

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Speaker 3: whether it's pitch selection, whether it's where you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the first thing you look at is

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Speaker 1: I think when the situations play, I think everything changes.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that the small ball. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: You know, and that all depends with your picture too.

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Speaker 1: You look at the video, where's his hot Spot's he

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Speaker 2: Josh, I'm glad the conversation went in this direction. Because

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Speaker 2: in general. That's kind of how you you. That was

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Speaker 2: coaches are the ones that are getting a lot of

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Speaker 2: the blame. And you you worked with them. Troy Snicker

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Speaker 2: Alex sent tron. I guess in general, can you describe

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Speaker 2: to me what a hitting coach, what a major league

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Speaker 1: Just go push the power button. Maybe it'll off, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the red button at the top. If not, don't worry

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Speaker 1: about it. I'll come in when I'm done.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's fine, baby, Just don't worry about Just go play.

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Speaker 4: I'll come get in a minute. Hey, shut the door, please,

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Speaker 4: Hey what my kids are one of the few kids

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Speaker 4: in this world who hate.

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Speaker 1: Being put in front of a TV for more than

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's good, it is good.

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Speaker 1: But at times like this and I do just go

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Speaker 1: over there. So yeah, So the hitting coaches, you know,

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Speaker 1: I always back in my younger years, I caught them

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Speaker 1: glorified cheerleaders, which is it sounds awful because they're way

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Speaker 1: more than that. But you know, when there when their job,

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Speaker 1: because their job is definitely to keep you confident, sure

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Speaker 1: I always talk about routine. You stick to your routine,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my man hit like two ninety hit five home

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Speaker 3: bat that you're part of a lineup. You're not nine

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Speaker 3: individual players going up there to build a stat line

433
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Speaker 3: for yourself. You're trying to win the game. Like, how

434
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Speaker 3: do you communicate that to the whole team.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't think they do. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: managers and coaching staff incorporate that at all. But fortunately

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Speaker 1: for me, when I got out, it was something that

438
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Speaker 1: you know, was still in transition to that. When I

439
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Speaker 1: was still there in Houston in the COVID season, we

440
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Speaker 1: still had that great lineup to where you know, we

441
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Speaker 1: did anything it took to win, whether it was Altuve

442
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Speaker 1: getting the guy over, whether it was you know, Korea

443
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Speaker 1: getting the guy over, or you know, guys like my

444
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Speaker 1: stuff at the bottom of the line up getting guys over.

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Speaker 1: It's just I think we knew what it took to win,

446
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Speaker 1: and we didn't care. I don't care how ugly that

447
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Speaker 1: box score wins, as long as you win. It's now

448
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Speaker 1: quote one of my favorite shows, it's Jorsy. It doesn't

449
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Speaker 1: They don't ask how, they ask how many and that,

450
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Speaker 1: And that's one way to look at it. When you

451
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Speaker 1: when you look at that box score, that's irrelevant to

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Speaker 1: me as a player. When I look at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, and I see that w That's all

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Speaker 1: that matters to me. So I think when got all that,

455
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Speaker 1: and I really don't think I don't think you see

456
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Speaker 1: it too often now, coaches aren't really trying to do that,

457
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Speaker 1: and I think it sucks for the game. And but

458
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Speaker 1: that's just my opinion and the way the game is.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think the one thing that has plagued

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Speaker 2: the Astros a little bit since that COVID year, since

461
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Speaker 2: that lineup you're talking about, you know, the team has

462
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Speaker 2: lost Michael Brantley, it's lost you, it's lost It's Springer.

463
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Speaker 2: It's going to lose out. I mean, these are really

464
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Speaker 2: good players, but there's also a common theme with all

465
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Speaker 2: these guys like very rare, not huge swing and miss guys,

466
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Speaker 2: not huge strikeout guys. They put the ball in play,

467
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Speaker 2: and that was something that's gosh, that's Jeff Luno has

468
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Speaker 2: said that's one of the reasons they's targeted you in

469
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Speaker 2: free agency before the twenty seventeen season. They they needed

470
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Speaker 2: this lineup to be able to put the ball in

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Speaker 2: play more. They struck out way too much in fifteen

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Speaker 2: and sixteen, and now you've got a lineup of a

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Speaker 2: lot of free swinging guys. Iianer Diaz is a great

474
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Speaker 2: young player, but he swings at everything, just jass A Ton,

475
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Speaker 2: Josel Tuove. He's going to the Hall of Fame, so

476
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Speaker 2: we're not going to criticize his approaching thing, but loves

477
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Speaker 2: to swing. Big free swinger Mauricio Dubond gets three four

478
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Speaker 2: hundred played appearances, one of the freest swingers in baseball

479
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Speaker 2: at Chas McCormick, Jake Myers kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like the makeup of this lineup

481
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Speaker 2: has been less about putting the ball in play. It's

482
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Speaker 2: been a lot more they're trying to find some slug

483
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Speaker 2: and they just you know, they have not been able

484
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Speaker 2: to find consistent enough slug to the point, Joshua, I

485
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Speaker 2: don't know, as you as you were watching the Ashers

486
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Speaker 2: last year, it kind of felt like if they didn't

487
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Speaker 2: hit a two or a three run home run, that team.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't scoring nod. It did feel a lot like that

489
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Speaker 1: because you look back at their early season struggles of

490
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Speaker 1: everything they couldn't hit with running and scoring position all

491
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Speaker 1: year long, and I remember that's all I talked about

492
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Speaker 1: on postgame was runners in scoring positions, get somebody, get

493
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Speaker 1: a hit, and that goes back to those strikeouts. When

494
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Speaker 1: you look at guys like you know, the swar Bers,

495
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Speaker 1: the Santander's got, how therebias? Just all these guys like

496
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Speaker 1: you take away You take away forty strikeouts just by

497
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Speaker 1: trying to shoot one the other way with a guy

498
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Speaker 1: at third two outs or a guy at second to out.

499
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Speaker 1: Think about how many more RBIs you could have, how

500
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Speaker 1: many more runs you could score by getting that duck

501
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Speaker 1: fart that falls to dying clail this way, Like, there's

502
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Speaker 1: just so many better options to just shorten up, shoot

503
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Speaker 1: one the other way, get your RBI and give you guys,

504
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Speaker 1: give your guys a lead if you need to. I

505
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Speaker 1: just I can never understand that, Like tone down the swing,

506
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Speaker 1: try to rip that single up the middle, you're gonna

507
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Speaker 1: drive in at least fifteen to twenty more And that

508
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Speaker 1: could be the difference between one hundred, That could be

509
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Speaker 1: different between that nice round number of seventy five eighty ninety.

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Speaker 1: So I just I'll never understand it, you know, And

511
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Speaker 1: I always say I should still be playing, but I

512
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Speaker 1: really don't know if I could survive and deal with

513
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Speaker 1: it in these in this way the game's going right now,

514
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Speaker 1: because I'd be the one guy that we going guys,

515
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Speaker 1: come on, we we need some hits. We don't need

516
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Speaker 1: the freaking five run home run in the fifth inning. Like,

517
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Speaker 1: go out there and piece some knocks together. That's what

518
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Speaker 1: we were still good at. When the Ashros rolled around.

519
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Speaker 1: We would you know, crooked number here, crooked number that inning,

520
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: crooked number any seven in eighty seven run this inning,

521
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: won this inning. And it was just constant, just constantly

522
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Speaker 1: go out there and beat the living crap out of

523
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Speaker 1: these guys and try not to do it all in

524
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Speaker 1: one at one time, beat them over the course of

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Speaker 1: nine innings.

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Speaker 3: So is that something that a hitting coach can you

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Speaker 3: know improve? Is that something that you know when you're

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Speaker 3: in the cage where hey, I know that you've got

529
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Speaker 3: your routine or whatever. But something important for our team

530
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Speaker 3: this season is these small situational hitting. So we're gonna

531
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Speaker 3: work on whatever. You know, this drill where you start

532
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Speaker 3: poking the ball the other way, or I want you

533
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Speaker 3: to ground it at the pitch ankles like I want

534
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Speaker 3: I want you to literally try to hit the pitcher's

535
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Speaker 3: ankles on this pitch, Like is that something a hitting

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Speaker 3: coach can do. Is that really their job? You know,

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Speaker 3: from from the outside looking in, is that something that

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Speaker 3: you know, how do you change that culture in a team?

539
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Speaker 1: So in the in the cage, I think it's it's

540
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Speaker 1: probably not best to address something like that. I think

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Speaker 1: when I remember when I played, you know, our first

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Speaker 1: two rounds were usually for me, my first round was

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Speaker 1: always just one hop short stop, one hop to the

544
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Speaker 1: short stop, hard, one hop to the short stop, get

545
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Speaker 1: your hands inside the ball, drive the baseball. Second round,

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Speaker 1: you do a situation you do to get him over,

547
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Speaker 1: get a man of second, get him over too. You

548
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Speaker 1: get him in less than two outs. There's your sack.

549
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Speaker 1: Fly practice in field back ground balls up the middle

550
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Speaker 1: of short stop and second base perfect, got him in.

551
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Speaker 1: Sat flies also work. Don't need to hit those homers

552
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Speaker 1: in those situations, just get those little things done. So

553
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Speaker 1: I think what we did still good and Stitt was

554
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Speaker 1: always so good about that was incorporating that into our

555
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Speaker 1: routine and batting practice. Not in the cage, because guys

556
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Speaker 1: are set in their routines that you're probably not gonna

557
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Speaker 1: switch that up. Outside of the younger guys like the Myers.

558
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Speaker 1: Is the mccormicks, those guys who can have a little

559
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Speaker 1: bit more leeway on getting those guys to do what

560
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: they want in the cage, whereas guys like, obviously, you're

561
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Speaker 1: not going to tell Altuve, You're not going to tell

562
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Speaker 1: your Don what to do in the cage, because they're

563
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Speaker 1: going to do what they do and be fine. But

564
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Speaker 1: I think they could pull at that little seat in

565
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Speaker 1: their head and then use that in the batting practice

566
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Speaker 1: routine to help them. Like I said before, and now I

567
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Speaker 1: have to overthink that and just boom, it just clicks

568
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Speaker 1: and you're ready to go.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned jor Don. We talked about a little bit

570
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Speaker 2: earlier that I don't know who's gonna play left field

571
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Speaker 2: for this team on opening day. Josh is available these

572
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Speaker 2: hydrating drinking pedia lighties, ready to go.

573
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Speaker 3: Does anyone know a left handed outfielder that could put

574
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Speaker 3: the ball in play that there might be helpful for

575
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Speaker 3: the Astros.

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Speaker 1: I've lost, Hey, I've lost ten pounds in the last

577
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Speaker 1: two weeks. I'm working out again too, So hey, I'm ready.

578
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Speaker 2: There we go, There we go. So it's no secret

579
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Speaker 2: that Jordan has been vocal that he wants to play

580
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Speaker 2: the outfield. I don't think he wants to be pigeonholed

581
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Speaker 2: as a DH only because he's still youngish and wants

582
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Speaker 2: to help on both sides of the ball. He's said

583
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Speaker 2: that being in left field helps him stay engaged in

584
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Speaker 2: the game, and that I mean that can be tough

585
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Speaker 2: to do as a DH. Sticking him in left field

586
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Speaker 2: at minute made park is probably okay. There's not a

587
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Speaker 2: lot of room to run. He can made park. I

588
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Speaker 2: can park. Oh man, I'm gonna get a phone call

589
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: that one. And Jordan's got a nice little arm in

590
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Speaker 2: the outfield too. He's cut some guys down at home

591
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Speaker 2: plate and third base. Coaches have just kind of been

592
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Speaker 2: automatically sending guys on him and he's made them pay.

593
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Speaker 2: I guess, Josh, where since you played the position, can

594
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Speaker 2: you break Jordan down as a defender in left field?

595
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Speaker 2: And then let's just say they hand you the keys

596
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Speaker 2: to the team. How much would you want to play

597
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Speaker 2: him out there?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm with him too, because you you talk about

599
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Speaker 1: staying engaged in a baseball game, and I personally hated

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Speaker 1: dhing so for that reason, because it's hard to stay loose,

601
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: it's hard to stay involved. So that might be something

602
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: he could benefit from from playing out there more than normal.

603
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: He might keep his legs stronger in that regard. But

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Speaker 1: I think you go, if if I'm if I'm the

605
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: GM manager whatever, I'm obviously talking to this guy every day,

606
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Speaker 1: I'm picking my spots for him. He's definitely playing more

607
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: at home. He's playing majority of him in Fenway. I

608
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: think you picked your short porches. I think you go. Obviously,

609
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Seattle's probably not gonna be a good choice for him,

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Speaker 1: Sacramento not going to be a good choice for him

611
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: because it's huge, and then you go to like you know,

612
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: Arlington pretty big. But you know you can't just keep

613
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Speaker 1: him in there at home. You gotta you gotta find

614
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: spots for him around the league to really get him

615
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Speaker 1: out there. And if you pick your spots right to

616
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Speaker 1: give him workloads that are very minimal, it could benefit

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Speaker 1: him in the long run for keeping those legs stronger. Now,

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Speaker 1: you give him one air every now and then in

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Speaker 1: those big outfield parks that kind of get some other

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Speaker 1: guys off their feet and get him out there, keep

621
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Speaker 1: him engaged. But you know, if I'm looking at it,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Joe Espada, I'm talking to the kid daily,

623
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Speaker 1: I'm figuring out what he wants to do. We'll work

624
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Speaker 1: out program with you and say, hey, look we'll get

625
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Speaker 1: you in some big fields, but we're going to majority

626
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Speaker 1: play in these short porches like Minute Made, like Fenway,

627
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: all these guys, you know, just where you could keep

628
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: your work minimal. If it's over your head, it's either gone,

629
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Speaker 1: you turn it around, throw it back in, and if

630
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: anything else, you have to come in and get it.

631
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Speaker 1: And then you have great Jake Myers whoever's playing center field,

632
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Speaker 1: have him. If you're say, let's just say you're in Detroit,

633
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Speaker 1: you know, got band box out there, and you play

634
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Speaker 1: Jake on that side of the field. I think you

635
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: move him on that side of second base to help,

636
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of counteract his his speed and his

637
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: lack of range, and then your right fielder just has

638
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: to make up for it. So there's definitely spots for

639
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: him to be able to do it. And that's that's

640
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: really good that he wants to do it, because it

641
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Speaker 1: could make him not only a better player, but it

642
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Speaker 1: could keep his night stronger to make him a better hitter.

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Speaker 3: And I would imagine it's probably starting picture dependent, right

644
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: like fromber and Hunter Brown are just not going to

645
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: give up a ton of fly balls. So you can

646
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: take the ris to put jord On out there and say,

647
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: you know, most of your game today is going to

648
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: be picking up grounders that got between, you know, the

649
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: the hole on the left side of the infield. So

650
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: you know, I would imagine that's probably a way too

651
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: that you could get him more involved in the game.

652
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I'm just a really good point because I'd

653
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: already thought about that. You get your strikeout guys and

654
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: your ground out guys, they're going to keep his work

655
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: minimal and all he has to worry about is just

656
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: jogging in and out of the dugout.

657
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: We don't talk much on this potter. We haven't about like,

658
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: we haven't done like the interest thing. Oh, the Ashers

659
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: are interested in this guy, not interested in this guy.

660
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: But there is an outfielder out there that I do

661
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: know that the Ashers have expressed interest in. It doesn't

662
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: mean they're going to sign him. I don't want that

663
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 2: becoming a thing. Just know that they've talked about it,

664
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: they've internally, externally, they've they've Todd Bennet's Alex Dugo did

665
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: not have a great year last year in New York,

666
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: but certainly fits. I think everything we have talked about

667
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: at the Astros need. He is a good defensive left fielder.

668
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: He's a left handed hitting bat. He does not strike out,

669
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: he puts the ball in play. Now, look, he didn't

670
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: get a ton of hits last year, but it's one

671
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: thing that this lineup doesn't have a lot of. He

672
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: doesn't swing in miss he takes his walks, he'll get

673
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: on base, that sort of thing, you know. And because

674
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: he did not have a great year last year in

675
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: New York, he'd come relatively cheap. And the Astros are

676
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: probably shopping in that end of the market given their

677
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: payroll and where they're at right now in relation to

678
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: the CBT. So I'm gonna throw that name at you,

679
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Josh Again. I don't think it's going to happen, but

680
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: it's at least someone that they've thought about. What about

681
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: Verdugo or someone like that, someone of that ilk to

682
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: come in here and just be a veteran that's been

683
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: around and that does a lot of things, and a

684
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: lot of hitters in this lineup don't do.

685
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. I think it's a good

686
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: signing for him. It's and I think, you know, it's

687
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: not somebody you're probably gonna give those five hundred bets

688
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: because of last season, unless he gets hot and figures

689
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: it out. But I think he's just the guy they need.

690
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: He's a guy who's been what and every team he's

691
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: been on, they've won. And he came from Dodgers, Boston,

692
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: New York. Now right, those are only three teams, I think,

693
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: so he knows what it takes to win. And then

694
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that kind of gets pushed to

695
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: the side when it becomes to stats numbers. And I've

696
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: always bragged about it. For me, as you know, I

697
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: was in the playoffs nine out of eleven years in

698
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: the show when I was in the full season, so

699
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of that goes out the door. But

700
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: when guys know how to win. You look back at

701
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: Johnny Gomes. Johnny Golmes is a perfect example. My man

702
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: could hit it a little bit, great clubhouse guy, great

703
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: dugout guy, great team guy on the bus. But man,

704
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: everywhere that guy went, they win, They get to the playoffs.

705
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean he came to Oakland in twenty twelve. Boom

706
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: playoffs goes to the Red Sox in thirteen World Series,

707
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: goes to I don't know he was with in fourteen.

708
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember who was with. We got him back

709
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: in fourteen in Oakland, and we got Lester because he

710
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: was still in Boston. Comes back. We flip our season around,

711
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: end up winning getting to the playoffs. Fifteen, he goes

712
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: to He goes somewhere and then gets traded to the

713
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Royals and wins the World Series with the Royals. Like,

714
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: guys like that are a dime a dozen in the show,

715
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: and they get taken for granted a lot because you

716
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: look at twelve years ago, guys like Jardi Golmes would

717
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: be getting paid two years and twelve million just to

718
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: get two hundred at bats and help the boys win.

719
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: And I'm a little biased because that was me and

720
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of got that. But those guys, guys like

721
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: Verdugo are guys like that because they know what it

722
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: takes to win. They have that winning feeling, they have

723
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: that winning mindset, and when you get guys like that

724
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: who know how to win, they flock to guy. Guys

725
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: that flock to those people tend to get more upbeat

726
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: and have a more happy moment about being at the

727
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: baseball field.

728
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 2: For Dugo has nothing on Will Smith.

729
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: No, he does not.

730
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: For in to row, right, I believe it was I

731
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: believe it was four. I know it was three World

732
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Series in a row. I think it was four because

733
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: he went Braves Astros and then he was with the

734
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: rail Rangers, and then he was with the Royals this

735
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: year and they made the playoffs. They didn't make the

736
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: World Series, but they made the playoffs.

737
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was he with before the Braves?

738
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: He was? He was with the Braves for a while, remember, yes,

739
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: where he like really became.

740
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: It might have been three, it might have been three,

741
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: and then he had a chance for crazy.

742
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: It was three World Series in a row, and then

743
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: he went to the Royals this past I.

744
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Know what it was. I know it was. There's been

745
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: there's there's been a Will Smith. That's one four in

746
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: a row. That's what it was.

747
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: That's what it was, and who knows he's I think

748
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: he's back with the Royals this year. There could be

749
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: a fifth. But the other Will Smith with the Dodgers,

750
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: they're signing everyone, They're signing every adorable free agent, So

751
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: the other Will Smith probably has a better chance of

752
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: continuing on the World Series legacy.

753
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: And hey, the Dodgers just signed another guy today, right,

754
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: another reliever?

755
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh, I think he If you just sent their

756
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: front office and invoys for like three years, twenty million,

757
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: they would just sign off on. I don't even think

758
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: they would double check.

759
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: I think that's that's that is even one that's holy

760
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: is the one team that will never signed Josh Reddick

761
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: ever again, ever again. Their fans won't allow it, their

762
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: teammates won't allow it. I don't think anybody will allow

763
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Josh Reddick never put a Dodgy uniform on ever again.

764
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: Just put a mustache on and change your name. They're

765
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: not they're not gonna double check. They're giving away money

766
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: like his candy.

767
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: And they're defering. They're deferring it all. As long as

768
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: you're okay with deferrals, I think they'll be okay with.

769
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, I always talk trash about that organization. I

770
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: don't eve talk trash because I had a great time

771
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: with the organization. Fan base that'll be along with. You know,

772
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: everybody hates on them, but you know what, if you

773
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: got the money and you got to know how and

774
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: you can have the ability to do what they're doing

775
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: Why the heck wouldn't you do it? You cannot be

776
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: mad because they are the team that can do it

777
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: and they're actually doing it. Yankees did it in the

778
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: two thousands, in the nineties, you're gonna buy, well, you

779
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: can't buy championships. What do you think you'd do to

780
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: free agents? You buy it to win.

781
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: It's objectively good for baseball to have a super villain

782
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: team like that. It is good to have one team

783
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: that everyone I mean, look at the NFL with the Chiefs.

784
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: You know, like everybody you watch in all but everybody

785
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: is tuning in the root against them. That's who the

786
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: doctors are. And it's it's good to have that. You

787
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: want to have storylines, you want to have heroes and villains.

788
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: It's good for baseball to have a team. Now, is

789
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: it frustrating to watch all of the good players that

790
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: maybe you want as a as a fan or as

791
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 3: a teammate go to another team. Yeah, sure, but doesn't matter.

792
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: A team's gonna do it. It's it's it's not like

793
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: they're ruining the sport by by signing a bunch of

794
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: good football.

795
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: They're creating a dynasty. That's what they're doing. They're looking

796
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: to build themselves a dynasty, and you know, they're looking

797
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: to build that trophy stuff that they already have that's

798
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: so extensive anyway, So you cannot be mad at those guys,

799
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: regardless if you like him, if you don't like him.

800
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: They're doing what should be done in baseball.

801
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: And Josh, you know it best, like the best team

802
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: on paper rarely wins the World Series.

803
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring it up, but yes, hey man.

804
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: But I think and Ken Rosenthal wrote this in a

805
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: column this morning that I thought was spot on. You know,

806
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: everyone that's complaining about the Dodgers, everyone that's you know,

807
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: about their payroll, about the deferrals and everything, and really

808
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: inside and can epitomize the best. You know, they're just

809
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: jealous and they're just they're just mad that their owner

810
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 2: isn't doing They're envious and they've got some the Dodgers

811
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: have some built in advantages with their TV deal and

812
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: obviously what Otani did for them deferral wise, he I mean,

813
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: and that's why Otani did it. I mean, Otani did

814
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: it because he wanted to be surrounded by a good team.

815
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: But you know, will end on this. You know, all

816
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: twenty nine. Other teams have now had two and a

817
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: half month to sign Kirby Yates, two and a half

818
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: months to sign Tanner Scotty. You know, why didn't you?

819
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if Kirby Yates is I think Kurbates is

820
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: getting a one year deal, You're telling me, like a

821
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: contender out there couldn't give Kirby Ates a one year deal.

822
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: That wasn't the Dodgers like Tanner Scott. Tanner Scott, that's

823
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: a that's a large deal for a reliever. But I mean,

824
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: if you're out there trying to win, if you're a

825
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: contender trying to win, like I mean, help give the

826
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: Astros credit. I mean, I don't know how the contracts

827
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: is going to turn out. But last year they were

828
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: trying to win. They went out and gave Josh had

829
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Or five years, ninety five million dollars worth it. Yeah,

830
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: and that's the sort of deal like the Dodgers keep

831
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: doing that, you know, weekly, the Astros. That's I was

832
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: like a once in a ownership style yep, Like the

833
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: Dodgers keep doing it weekly. And I think that's what

834
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: frustrates a lot of people. But again, I think on

835
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: the inside, I think they wish their owners would be

836
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: that aggressive. But I think the good thing for the Astros,

837
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: the good thing for the Ashers case is if they

838
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: do play the Dodgers, it won't be until the World Series,

839
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: so they keep kind of making the National League this big,

840
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: bad bully. But the Astros are in the American League

841
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: and maybe they'll be able to ascend. And who knows

842
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: what their outfield is going to look like, But appreciate

843
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Josh breaking down what they do have available and maybe

844
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: what he would like to see them have. We'll be

845
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: back next week. Who knows where we'll all be. We'll

846
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: probably all three be in different locations again, but.

847
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: I'll still be here three inches of snow and Houston

848
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: have melted by then.

849
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be able to get on the road and

850
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: go elsewhere.

851
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: Maybe next Maybe next time, I'll go live from the

852
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: ski lift for you.

853
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: Until then. If you want Josh to do that, please

854
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,359
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Speaker 2: every time we post a new podcast. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: guys listening, and.

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Speaker 1: For those listening, I have a USA ski stuit that

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Speaker 1: I could wear for the show too on the ski lift.

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Speaker 2: So it's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not quite the Speedo. It's got a little

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Speaker 1: bit more coverage than we're used to on me, but

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Speaker 1: it still looks great.

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Speaker 2: It's on you.

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Speaker 3: But I mean in April you could probably go down

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Speaker 3: into Speedo and breckerage.

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Speaker 2: You'll be all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can do anything once. I can do anything

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Speaker 1: once in the weather.

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Speaker 2: So guys, it's on you. It's on you. Great and

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Speaker 2: review us. I believe we're at Let me check. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's let's actually do this. I'm checking right now. We've

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Speaker 2: got We've got forty five ratings on Apple. Right now

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Speaker 2: we're four point nine out of five, So thanks everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if we get to fifty five by next week, I'm

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Speaker 2: asking for ten ratings. If we get to fifty five

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Speaker 2: by next week, Josh, will you put the USA the

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Speaker 2: USA get up on and go live from a ski lift.

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Speaker 1: Sixty Let's make it look at I have no shame.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. I have no shame to do it,

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Speaker 1: but tends a little bit too easy, so let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Sixty sixty total ratings of fifteen. Okay, so now and

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Speaker 2: next week fifteen total rays. If we get up to sixty,

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Speaker 2: we'll have Josh on a ski lift in the USA

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Speaker 2: Ski Apparel. So it's on you now, guys. We've put

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Speaker 2: the antie up. It's on you, guys to call it.

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Speaker 2: But we appreciate again all the outpouring of support we had,

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Speaker 2: rate and review on Apple, subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back next week. Thanks guys, bye, appreciate it.