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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Tours.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Busy, busy,

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Speaker 2: busy weekend here in June. As the segre just told you.

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Speaker 2: The Florida Panthers up three to two in the Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup Finals. By the way, the Dodgers apparently saved all

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Speaker 2: their runs for tonight. I was at the game last night.

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Speaker 2: Uh wasn't a very pretty effort for the Dodgers. They

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Speaker 2: are now up seven nothing in the third against the Giants,

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Speaker 2: and of course we are between games four and five

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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals. Jason Martin, what's up, buddy? How

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Speaker 2: you doing? Guess Jase is not doing that well. Have

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Speaker 2: we lost Jason Martin already? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Oh oh oh no, no, no, no, I'm here. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry. I wasn't paying attention. I did not think

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Speaker 3: that I was gonna be able to get this one

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Speaker 3: card out from underneath that stack, and I was able

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Speaker 3: to draw it. I figured it out, man. I had

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Speaker 3: to finish that game of Solitaire before we get show.

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Speaker 2: WHOA Shots Fired? I get it. We'll talk about Solitaire

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Speaker 2: a Smith later on in the show Highest Paid media

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Speaker 2: member in America. That was actually good. I was not

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Speaker 2: ready for Yeah, you actually threw me for a loop.

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Speaker 2: You had told me you had something for me off

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Speaker 2: the top. I thought we actually lost you. Turns out

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Speaker 2: you were just playing Solitaire during Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: one of the most entertaining NBA playoff games we've had

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Speaker 2: all season long. So let's start with the game itself.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll talk about the twenty million dollar broadcaster who

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Speaker 2: decided that he would rather play Solitaire than watch that game.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City ties the series up two games a piece,

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Speaker 2: one eleven, one oh four. Shay gilges Alexander fifteen points

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Speaker 2: in like the final six minutes of that game. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: J mart I was actually at the Dodgers game. As

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Speaker 2: I said on Friday night. Dodgers did not look very

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Speaker 2: good on Friday. They're playing much better tonight. But I

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Speaker 2: was kind of texting you throughout for updates and it

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Speaker 2: felt like Indiana was in control. For the record, I

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Speaker 2: went back and watched it today, so I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about some game that I did not see. But Shay

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Speaker 2: is great. Late, there's some foul questions late there's some

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Speaker 2: push off stuff, some Shay shuffling his feet stuff, but

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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder close out the victory, comeback from

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Speaker 2: down eight points going into the fourth quarter. They end

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Speaker 2: up winning one to eleven, one oh four, tying the

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Speaker 2: series up at two games apiece. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on this series that now heads back to OKC tit

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Speaker 3: They should have lost. I mean, the Pacers really did

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Speaker 3: control it. The crowd was super into it. The third

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Speaker 3: quarter belonged to Indiana. They had their biggest lead early

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, everything trending away from the Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: City Thunder, and somehow Oka See still got out of

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Speaker 3: there with a victory. That was more of an escape,

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Speaker 3: but it was because of the brilliance of SGA. Whatever

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about, whatever may have happened down

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Speaker 3: the stretch, all this stuff. The difference was Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: made plays late and Benedict Matheren couldn't shoot a free

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Speaker 3: throw to save his life late in that basketball game

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Speaker 3: for Indiana. He was he did his best Nick Anderson

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Speaker 3: impression in that one. But this was an SGA. This

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Speaker 3: is why he won the MVP. Like this, this is

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Speaker 3: the reason why because that's what an MVP of the

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Speaker 3: league is supposed to do. He carried them when they

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Speaker 3: had to have it most down the stretch because everything

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Speaker 3: seemed to be trending the Pacers way. They were getting

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Speaker 3: the better of the Thunder Defensively, Miles turn was playing

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Speaker 3: a really great game on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: They just seemed to be in a flow. The crowd

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Speaker 3: were about to lose meeting the Thunder and this was

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Speaker 3: about to be a three to one game and SGA

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Speaker 3: just flat out wouldn't let it happen. And you know,

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Speaker 3: that's again, that's what you need your guy to do.

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Speaker 3: He has to be there for you, even when the

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Speaker 3: role players maybe aren't having their best night because they're

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Speaker 3: on the road and the rims just they things are

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Speaker 3: there no matter what. And that's what the MVP of

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Speaker 3: the league did. He ended up with fifteen points in

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Speaker 3: that fourth quarter. Was a great night and for him

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the assist totals, of which I

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Speaker 3: that you're going to look back on and think if

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Speaker 3: the Pacers do lose, it's because they could not hold

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Speaker 3: getting whistled for fouls if nothing else. And it felt

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Speaker 3: like a pivotal kind of turning point moment the thunder

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Speaker 3: but two to two they have all the momentum and

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Speaker 3: it's back at home court. They don't have to win

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, you know, not seeing it live and

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Speaker 2: then being able to go back and watch it. It was

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Speaker 2: really interesting. A lot of the discourse about the referees,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you wonder in real time how bad

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Speaker 2: it is going back expecting a referee spectacle. Listen, there

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Speaker 2: was some flag or fall stuff early whatever that didn't

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Speaker 2: impact the game. But it's funny because the big push

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Speaker 2: I saw highlights of it when I got home. I

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Speaker 2: saw clips of it on social media. And then you

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Speaker 2: go back and you realize that that play happened to

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Speaker 2: give Oklahoma City a one oh four, one oh three

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Speaker 2: at math. But even after that play okay, see out

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Speaker 2: scores Indiana seven to one. And so I just bring

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Speaker 2: it up because, again, having not seen it live, you

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Speaker 2: assume the worst. You assume it's this crazy rev controversy,

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Speaker 2: and no, it's just people complaining on social media. I

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Speaker 2: actually do think that. To me, the story, I think

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Speaker 2: the story is really two things. Is one, continue to

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Speaker 2: be impressed by Indiana. Maybe at this point we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: just be impressed, we should just acknowledge they're a great team.

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Speaker 2: But you look at how many different and I know

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Speaker 2: this is the narrative with them, but independent of the

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Speaker 2: beat you how great ob Toppen was in game four.

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Speaker 2: This after Ben Mathern has a historic game off the

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Speaker 2: bench in game three, not to mention Aaron Naysmith, who's

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Speaker 2: had some big games throughout the playoffs, not to mention

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Speaker 2: obviously Tyre's Halliburn, Pop, Pascal Siakam whatever. So that was one.

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Speaker 2: But two, I also just think you got to give

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Speaker 2: I had this perception that there was just this crazy

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Speaker 2: don't know if you have anything else on on game four,

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Speaker 2: j Mart, but as we go into the final three here,

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Speaker 2: you know, whenever you're tied to tow after four games, it

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Speaker 2: feels like it can go either way. But I really

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Speaker 2: feel like this can go either way. Where I think

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Speaker 2: even last week when we came on air, OKAC was

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Speaker 2: feel that way, not because OKAC isn't that good, but

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Speaker 2: just because of what Indiana continues to prove night after

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Speaker 3: The only thing I'll point out is the same thing

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Speaker 3: that I texted you last night and the same thing

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Speaker 3: that upset me last week, and that was the discourse

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Speaker 3: that this was a generational mismatch where the thunder were

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Speaker 3: just gonna absolutely just boat race the Pacers and embarrass

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Speaker 3: them and they had no business being in the finals

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Speaker 3: and all it was a ridiculous notion. Then it's a

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Speaker 3: ridiculous notion now, and that's coming from an Oklahoma City thunderfan.

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Speaker 3: In me, it's absurd because none of these guys, almost

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Speaker 3: nobody on the floor has finals experienced. Can that's a

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Speaker 3: completely different animal? Yeah, got right.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question because I was thinking

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Speaker 2: and we talked about this last week. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I heard anybody make the legitimate argument Indiana is gonna

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Speaker 2: win this series. But do you think that the takes

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Speaker 2: that everybody liking OKA see and the takes of generational mismatch?

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Speaker 2: OKC in five whatever, okay, c sweet? Do you think

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Speaker 2: it was because we undervalued how good Indye just is period?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we maybe overvalued OKAC because they had

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Speaker 2: a dominant regular season? Like where do you think the

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Speaker 2: take came from? Not just generational mismatch, but virtually everybody

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Speaker 2: with a microphone and a platform picking OKAC to win,

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Speaker 2: most people picking them to win in pretty convincing fashion.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this. I'll pose a

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Speaker 3: question back to you. Sure that'll kind of reveal my answer.

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Speaker 3: If you took the exact same team, Okay, indyed Tom

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Speaker 3: Mia put them, yes, and put them in Boston Celtics uniforms,

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Speaker 3: or put them in New York Knicks uniforms, or where

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Speaker 3: the Western Conference finals and you put them in LA

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Speaker 3: Lakers uniforms. Are we getting the same conversation.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question and the answer is no. If

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Speaker 2: that's right, If Tyrese Halliburton was on the Knicks, we

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Speaker 2: would be talking about Tyres Haliburton the way we talked

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have anything to add, but

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Speaker 3: I I mean, I know, I think I think that

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Speaker 3: think the reason is because it's Indiana. It's because it's

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers, and they're not one of those they're

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Speaker 3: not they're not a team that's supposed to be here,

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Speaker 3: and so when they get here, it's not about how

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Speaker 3: pick it apart. Well, Haliburton's not your traditional scorer. He's

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Speaker 3: a past first point guard. And I mean Pascal Siakham.

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Speaker 3: He's your most dominant offensive player. And I mean, look

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Speaker 3: at this collection of guys. I mean, they're a bunch

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Speaker 3: of role players, but these are not the comments that

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Speaker 3: the problem with the discourse, period is I mean a

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Speaker 3: lot of the people that are commenting on the Pacers

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Speaker 3: or over just overlooking them. They're overlooking them because they

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Speaker 3: didn't watch them all see and that that right there

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Speaker 3: explains it in a nutshell. They deserved more respect a

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Speaker 3: because people watched them and knew how good they were.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that. I don't think that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people that covered the league for a living

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Speaker 3: spent enough time paying attention to a lot of other

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Speaker 3: teams in the league because they were too busy watching

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Speaker 3: a circus in LA and they were watching the big

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Speaker 3: got caught with their pants down because the Pacers turned

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Speaker 3: out not just to be good, but to be great.

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Speaker 2: I think, excuse me, I'll take on my throat there,

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Speaker 2: so I actually have an agree with you one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent is that it is interesting to me that it

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Speaker 2: just feels like the people that are paid a lot

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Speaker 2: of money to do this, they just don't know how

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Pacers. It's like, at least with OKAC,

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Speaker 3: So if I'm Miami, what am I bringing him there for?

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Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen in Miami with Kevin Durant. He's

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Speaker 2: you build teams. It's not how Okac's built. It's not

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Speaker 2: even how Boston's been built, Indiana's been built whatever.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Actually, you know what it is, it's exactly how

433
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Speaker 3: okay See was built. In reverse. Well, it's the Clippers

434
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Speaker 3: that went after the Star and Paul George that sent

435
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Speaker 3: SGA in company to Oklahoma City that changed everything. It

436
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Speaker 3: was them trying to add a star and win a

437
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Speaker 3: championship that actually reverse, it actually worked in reverse for

438
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Speaker 3: the team that was actually unloading the Star in that scenario.

439
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Speaker 2: I was actually, this is totally not related to Kevin Durant,

440
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Speaker 2: and we'll get back to Kevin Durant in half a second.

441
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Speaker 2: I was watching the NBA Final the game this afternoon,

442
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Speaker 2: and I'll be honest, maybe there's an example of this

443
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Speaker 2: that I can't think of, but watching a game the

444
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: two best players on the floor that everybody universally agrees

445
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Speaker 2: are awesome in an NBA Finals, we're both traded, like

446
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: you know, Halle and Shay, and it's just like, I, I,

447
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Speaker 2: is there an exact It's not like a let's talk

448
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Speaker 2: about this and debate it conversations. Just I was just

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Speaker 2: thinking that. I was like, is there an example of

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Speaker 2: just like like, yeah, okay, guys have been traded and

451
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Speaker 2: Lebron has played for different teams and whoever. But it's

452
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Speaker 2: like they were both I don't want to say Halle

453
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Speaker 2: was like an afterthought, but it was kind of like, okay,

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Speaker 2: it felt like a pretty even trade, some bonus for

455
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Speaker 2: Halle back in the day. Anyway, Just something to think about,

456
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Speaker 2: something that you want. I think it's a great point

457
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Speaker 2: by you. I'll defend KD on one thing. I've been

458
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Speaker 2: very critical of him. I said last week, you know,

459
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Speaker 2: I agreed with you on Minnesota. I do think Houston

460
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Speaker 2: is interesting because the one thing, first of I I

461
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Speaker 2: don't think I don't think that, I don't think san

462
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Speaker 2: Antonio makes sense. I just think you're just stunting the

463
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Speaker 2: growth of that entire organization by adding Kevin Durant. Now,

464
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Speaker 2: I think Kevin Durant, it makes sense for him to

465
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Speaker 2: want to go play with Wemby and Darren Fox and

466
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Speaker 2: Steph cast like it. Houston, I do think culture's already

467
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Speaker 2: set with Imeadoka. He feels like one of the few

468
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Speaker 2: guys in the league that Kevin Durant isn't gonna walk

469
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Speaker 2: in and push around, like you know, he's the captain

470
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Speaker 2: of that ship and you're either gonna fall in line

471
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Speaker 2: or you're not. And then the other thing with them

472
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Speaker 2: their defensive culture. They were clearly in that Golden State

473
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Speaker 2: series lacking a go to guy, a middle of the

474
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Speaker 2: road team offensively this year, that's the one where it's like, Okay,

475
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Speaker 2: that one kind of does make sense and I would

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Speaker 2: kind of be it, But again, it's what are you

477
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Speaker 2: giving up? If you know, if you're having to give

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Speaker 2: up a bunch of really talented young pieces, I mean

479
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Speaker 2: part of what made them so talented. And I'm not

480
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Speaker 2: saying this kid's like the most unbelievable player ever, but

481
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Speaker 2: amen Thompson being an elite defensive player. Now you're just

482
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Speaker 2: again doing the thing where you trade the young assets

483
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Speaker 2: that are actually the reason that you're winning for the

484
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Speaker 2: superstar that's kind of passed his prime.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I mean that's what Phoenix did.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Problem with the problem with getting Kevin Durant is you

488
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Speaker 3: gave up all the things that we're gonna make make

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Speaker 3: you a Kevin Durant away, and then you you just

490
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Speaker 3: got Kevin Durant and you were, well, all those other

491
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Speaker 3: things away at that point, like what you have to

492
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Speaker 3: give up? And that's why you look at somebody. That's

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Speaker 3: why you look at for instance, San Antonio and you say, okay,

494
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Speaker 3: well see they have a draft pick to play with here, sure,

495
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Speaker 3: and that makes it a bit more intriguing from that

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Speaker 3: perspective for them. I agree with you a million percent

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Speaker 3: what you're saying about Houston dead on. You're exactly right,

498
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Speaker 3: like they could actually benefit from him, but they won't

499
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Speaker 3: be the same group if Kevin Durant goes there because

500
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Speaker 3: Phoenix is not just going to let him go for nothing.

501
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Speaker 3: They wagered their whole franchise basically to bring him there,

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Speaker 3: and it did absolutely nothing for them. They're going to

503
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Speaker 3: be in a complete and total rebuild after a free

504
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Speaker 3: fall at this point, so they are going to find

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Speaker 3: a way to get their pound of flesh back out

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Speaker 3: of this if at all possible. So Houston is not

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Speaker 3: going to get Kevin Durant cheaply in this circumstance. And

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Speaker 3: so that to me, I think is the big question.

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Speaker 3: And you laid it out, what do you have to

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Speaker 3: give up to acquire the guy? And at that point

511
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Speaker 3: is it worth that or how much you've given up?

512
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Speaker 3: Has that just eliminated any chance that you can win

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Speaker 3: a title with or with them or not.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting conversation. It feels like the trade is happening.

515
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Speaker 2: I'll just kind of put a bow on this. I

516
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Speaker 2: don't get the sense that the Spurs are that interested.

517
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Speaker 2: So it feels like maybe it'll be the rockets, maybe

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Speaker 2: it'll be the heat. The one thing I will add,

519
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Speaker 2: just doesn't feel like the Again, it speaks to the

520
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Speaker 2: conversation that you and I have had the last two

521
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Speaker 2: weeks that I feel like most of the main most

522
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Speaker 2: of the mainstream media again wants superstar player, big brand organization,

523
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Speaker 2: drop him in a pot mix make for an interesting story.

524
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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, cool doesn't help you know again, not

525
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Speaker 2: how Indy was built? Okay, see was the reverse Celtics

526
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Speaker 2: or the whatever point I'm trying to make. It'll be

527
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Speaker 2: interesting because it does feel like trade is coming soon.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios, will come back speak into

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Speaker 2: big markets, Jamar, what the is going on with the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Have you, by the way, have you had to officially

532
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Speaker 2: announce that you are not leaving your current job. I

533
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Speaker 2: don't know if that if that's been actually.

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Speaker 3: You kind of spoiled the lead here. I have decided

535
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Speaker 3: to stick where I am. I just have no interest

536
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Speaker 3: in that job at this time. I was actually going

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Speaker 3: to make that announcement.

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Speaker 2: Oh darn it.

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Speaker 3: But that's all right, it's no, it's fine. It makes

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Speaker 3: it easy. It's kind of a seamless transition for me.

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Speaker 3: I just I like where my family is right now.

542
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Speaker 3: I like how how things are going in my life,

543
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Speaker 3: and the idea of coaching the Knicks just kind of

544
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Speaker 3: turns my stomach quite frankly.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So J Mart, along with Billy Donovan, Quinn Snyder,

546
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Speaker 2: Jason Kidd, Chris Finch and others are out who's actually

547
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Speaker 2: and we'll discuss that next. First, di seger one, I

548
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Speaker 2: want to know what's trending. Two, have you had to

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Speaker 2: officially let your has your representation let the Knicks know that?

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to speak for you. I don't

551
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Speaker 5: know if you're involved or not. First off, there is

552
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Speaker 5: no such representation, So I span here.

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Speaker 2: I think they called under spandre since in television have

554
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Speaker 2: Age would take the job.

555
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Speaker 5: We just would like everybody to know publicly in New

556
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Speaker 5: York that if you would like to pay us not

557
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 5: to coach your team, we're up for that, yes, because

558
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Speaker 5: eventually that's what happens with everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thirty million dollars worth of home not catching. I think

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Speaker 2: that's what Tips is. Getting something in that ballpark if

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Speaker 2: it extends out.

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Speaker 5: But by all means, fire him and then and then

563
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Speaker 5: think of a replacement plan.

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't want to I stole J Mart's thunder

565
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Speaker 2: on his news. I'm gonna spoil my take right now.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really have a problem with the firing until

567
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Speaker 2: I realized they had absolutely no plan. We'll get to

568
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Speaker 2: that in just a few minutes, but continue with your year.

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Speaker 2: Is Phil Jackson on the list? Phil anyone? No, he's asleep.

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Speaker 2: He actually just felt he'd waken.

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Speaker 5: Up by the way you were talking about the Paul

572
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Speaker 5: George trade, and I looked up that deal again and

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Speaker 5: it was Paul George to the Clippers for Shaye Jill

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Speaker 5: shake Kill, just Alexander and a pretty surrounder in twenty

575
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Speaker 5: twenty two and the first round of the year before that,

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Speaker 5: But the one that was twenty twenty two draft choice

577
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Speaker 5: was Jalen Williams, Yes, and then a first rounder of

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Speaker 5: the year after that, and a first round of the

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Speaker 5: year after that, and to this summer and one next year,

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Speaker 5: and it's, you know, nothing against Paul George. He's twenty

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Speaker 5: points a game for his career and was better than

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Speaker 5: that with the Clippers.

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Speaker 3: But well, you know, podcast man.

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Speaker 2: As I've told you many times, you do have something

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Speaker 2: against Paul George. My wife because that news broke in

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Speaker 2: the middle of our wedding, and for about ten minutes,

587
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Speaker 2: everybody was on their phones trying to figure out how

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Speaker 2: the heck, Paul George got traded.

589
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Speaker 3: But anyway, remind George ruins everything.

590
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, except for one franchise the NBA. Well, we're both nay.

591
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: He ruins everything in the state of California.

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00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 5: That's The NBA Finals continue Monday. Indiana and Oklahoma City

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Speaker 5: series tied it too. We had the series tied it

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Speaker 5: too in the Stanley Cup Final until Florida one on

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Speaker 5: the road tonight five to two at Edmonton. Great stat

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Speaker 5: from Sportsnet in Canada. How long have the Oilers actually

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Speaker 5: led in the five games of this series? The answer

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Speaker 5: is under thirty five minutes total. All the Panthers have

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Speaker 5: led for two hundred minutes so far in the series.

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Speaker 5: It's three games to two Florida and the Panthers will

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Speaker 5: host Game six on Tuesday. Meanwhile, we had WNBA today

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Speaker 5: with Caitlin Clark on the court and Indiana beating New York,

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Speaker 5: which was nine to zero one oh two eighty eight.

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Speaker 5: Clark had missed five games with a string quad but

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Speaker 5: had twenty five points in the first half thirty two

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Speaker 5: for the game. Victories for Minnesota and Golden State. Sam

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Speaker 5: Burns leads the US Open by one stroke. College Baseball

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Speaker 5: World Series wins for LSU and UCLA. The UFL Championship

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Speaker 5: Game has just ended, DC the title ist, beating Michigan

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Speaker 5: fifty eight thirty four fifty eight thirty one points in

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Speaker 5: the second quarter of that game. Daniel Suarez won NASCAR's

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Speaker 5: Infinity Race in Mexico, his home country, by the way,

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Speaker 5: FS one carrying Mexico's soccer team. Right now as the

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Speaker 5: Gold Cup opens and at the La Rams Stadium, Mexico

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Speaker 5: up in the sixty six minute three to one over

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Speaker 5: Dominican Republic USA Open Tomorrow, the tournament is on Fox

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Speaker 5: and FS one, and we've got two late games. In

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Speaker 5: Major League Baseball, Clayton Kershaw absolutely owned the San Francisco

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Speaker 5: Giants in his career six scoreless innings at his advanced

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Speaker 5: age tonight and it's seven to nothing LA over the

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Speaker 5: Giants going to the bottom of the sixth and these

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Speaker 5: two rivals are tied for first in the NL West

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Speaker 5: right now, Kershaw has only thrown seventy pitches in the

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Speaker 5: sixth inning. He has in his career against the Giants

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Speaker 5: had about sixty starts, about four hundred innings and over

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Speaker 5: four hundred strikeouts against him. Career era against San Francisco

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Speaker 5: coming into tonight was two point zero four, and he's

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Speaker 5: tacked on six scoreless in this one. Cleveland is tied

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Speaker 5: at Seattle to two in the top of the six

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Speaker 5: everything else is final. An amazing win at Arizona for

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Speaker 5: the Diamondbacks, who won five straight. They scored five in

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Speaker 5: the bottom of the ninth to beat the padres encloser

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Speaker 5: Robert Suarez eight to seven. Boston had the game that's

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Speaker 5: for most of the country on Fox TV, beating the

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Speaker 5: rival Yankees four to three. Atlanta over Colorado four to one.

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Speaker 5: The Rockies are thirteen and fifty seven now and the

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Speaker 5: winning pitcher was Spencer Strider, who had been on five

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Speaker 5: this year. Strider with thirteen strikeouts against Colorado in six innings.

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Speaker 2: No runs allowed.

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia edge Toronto three to two on a solo homer

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Speaker 5: in the eighths. Tampa Bay beat the Mets in New

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Speaker 5: York again eight four. Back to you, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 5: Steve Sager.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air towards

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Speaker 2: jas Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: By the way, got a payoff a Rockies thing from

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Speaker 2: last week. You and I were talking about it was

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Speaker 2: the final it was the Sager's final update, and I said,

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto, I know you're listening. If somebody just blindly

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Speaker 2: bet against the Rockies every single game from the start

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Speaker 2: of the season on, what would they be up? And

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Speaker 2: he texted me, yeah, both of us he was.

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Speaker 3: He was obviously listening because it was before I was

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Speaker 3: able to walk away from my headset. Yes, he already

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Speaker 3: had texted the answer at.

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Speaker 2: Ten fifty five Pacific one fifty five Eastern time yesterday,

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Speaker 2: he said. Last Saturday, he said, Hey, Aaron a Better,

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Speaker 2: who faded or bet against the Rockies in every game

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Speaker 2: would have been up twenty eight hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 2: dollars as of last Monday. So basically twenty eight to

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Speaker 2: one on your betting odds if if you were just

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Speaker 2: blindly betting, that was as of two mondays ago. I

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Speaker 2: can't speak to what it is now. So Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio rators Jason Martin will come back. We will have

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Speaker 2: the next conversation. Ja mart is out, de Sager is out,

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Speaker 2: So who's in for the next week. Maybe Brianna bri

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Speaker 2: she's got enough jobs. We'll discuss the first.

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Speaker 3: She could be the first women's coach in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Well, shei right out of candidates, so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Aer Torres,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: All right, so, I guess you could say we teased it.

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Speaker 2: We're frankly just having a conversation. The New York Knicks

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Speaker 2: last played two weeks ago. Today fired their coach the

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Speaker 2: following what Monday or Tuesday? So about I think thirty

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Speaker 2: I think forty eight to seventy two hours after their

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Speaker 2: season ended two weeks ago on Saturday. Still, not only

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Speaker 2: do they not have a coach, it feels like they

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Speaker 2: they just now finally have a plan. They of course

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Speaker 2: asked virtually every organization with a sitting head coach to

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Speaker 2: interview them. Off the top of my head, and I

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Speaker 2: don't have this to memory, but Jason Kidd, Billy Donovan,

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Speaker 2: Chris Finch, Quinn Snyder, there's maybe one.

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Speaker 3: Or two others, but of course there's Jay Wright.

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Speaker 2: Jay Wright, Rick Patino, maybe a Dan Hurley. Anyway, there

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Speaker 2: is reports today that they're gonna interview and speak with

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Speaker 2: Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown this week. Now there's a

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Speaker 2: separate conversation about Mike Brown, but at least they finally

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Speaker 2: at least they're finally going after people that they might

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Speaker 2: actually be able to hire. Another's a different conversation to

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Speaker 2: take it where you want, Jmart is this about because

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Speaker 2: to me, I know, I just said take it where

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Speaker 2: you want. I'll just give you my spiel is And

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Speaker 2: I said it before Desager got to his update is

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Speaker 2: I had no problem with the firing because, as I

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Speaker 2: said last week, it felt like, if you bring back TIBs,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be the same thing, overplay the veterans. This

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Speaker 2: that the other thing. I was also naive enough to

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Speaker 2: believe that in firing TIBs there was actually a plan

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Speaker 2: to replace him. Instead, it's a cluster. Now the floor

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Speaker 2: is officially yours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I kind of agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with the firing as well, based on your

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Speaker 3: rationale there that if you have problems with the in

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Speaker 3: which he was coaching the team, and it wasn't just

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Speaker 3: an overreaction to losing to Indiana, who you also probably

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Speaker 3: disrespected in your own mind, just like the media and

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Speaker 3: everybody else did then then okay, but it's not even

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Speaker 3: that they haven't hired somebody. I understand that can take

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Speaker 3: some time or whatever. Right, you're working things out and

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Speaker 3: all this, but it doesn't even seem like they knew

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Speaker 3: who they wanted to hire exactly. Like that's like at

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Speaker 3: least you got a list, right, Like there's like, yes,

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Speaker 3: you're asking a ton of people about their coaches and all,

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Speaker 3: but I mean, I mean based on what because you

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Speaker 3: because they're coaching now, are they better than what you had?

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Speaker 3: Are you now scrambling at some point? Did you was

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Speaker 3: there a plan A that we are completely unaware of?

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Speaker 3: Like it makes your organization look well, disorganized, but it

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Speaker 3: also makes that job look like it's not a job

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Speaker 3: people want. Like the whole thing just reflects poorly on

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Speaker 3: a team and on a franchise that really, this should

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Speaker 3: be the best time that they've had in a while.

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Speaker 3: Like the owner is still the owner. You can't do

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Speaker 3: anything about that right now. But Brunson, you've got a

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Speaker 3: legit superstar. You've got a likable group of guys to

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Speaker 3: follow on that team. Looks like a pretty bright future

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Speaker 3: there in New York. There's energy again, the celebrities are

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Speaker 3: back in the building and they're buying into what can happen,

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Speaker 3: Like it's starting to become a show again. That should

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Speaker 3: be a job that a lot of people want, and

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Speaker 3: they just don't. And then you're going to teams and

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Speaker 3: you're begging them for you know, permission to talk, and

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Speaker 3: the teams are shutting you down. And so you didn't

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Speaker 3: have a plan. You also didn't have leverage, and you

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Speaker 3: don't seem to have like the a job that it

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Speaker 3: feels like this could be right now. So what's the cause? Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Dolan is probably one of the largest reasons,

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Speaker 3: but more than anything, it's just like, what exactly were

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Speaker 3: you attempting to do by firing Tom Thibodeaux? What were

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Speaker 3: you trying to attract? Because it has this has gone

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Speaker 3: just incredibly poorly, Like it's it's actually it's actually got

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Speaker 3: to be humiliating for that organization, not even like those

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Speaker 3: that weren't party to that decision, that work in that

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Speaker 3: front office or whatever like that. They've just got to

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Speaker 3: be like, what are we doing here, folks? Like a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago we were in the Eastern Conference finals

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Speaker 3: and now we look like the Keystone cops like it's

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Speaker 3: an embarrassment. It really is, like it's a huge blemish

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Speaker 3: on that franchise.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt, And I don't really know what else

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Speaker 2: there is to really add other than that. It's just

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Speaker 2: it's just disappointing because one those fans listen. I know

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Speaker 2: the Knicks fan narrative gets a little bit overblown at times,

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Speaker 2: but like, those fans have been incredibly loyal us for

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Speaker 2: the past twenty five years, and to see this situation

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Speaker 2: where you finally have something going in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: You have a star in Jalen Brunson, you have the

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Speaker 2: pieces around him. Is it a perfect team?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: But to our point from earlier the show, part of

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Speaker 2: it is of course that the Indiana Pacers are just

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Speaker 2: better than people realized. And so now I just it's

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Speaker 2: just sad to me because it feels hard to see

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Speaker 2: a scenario where the Knicks are in a better situation

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Speaker 2: a year from now than they are than they were

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago. And I just feel bad for the

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Speaker 2: fans and the players. So we'll see what happens. Nick's

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Speaker 2: uh set to meet with Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown

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Speaker 2: this week. I hope they have a coach by this

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Speaker 2: time next week, but who really knows. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Plenty more to come, including guess who's back, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. We're discussing her next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two towards Martin. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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Speaker 2: taking up till two am Eastern Time. Fretto of the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto Show will follow us here in just a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to

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Speaker 2: say about a busy, busy, busy week in sports. If

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Speaker 2: you missed our one, you can always go back and

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Speaker 2: download the podcast. We talked Game four of the NBA Finals,

785
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Speaker 2: We talked what are the next doing with that coaching search?

786
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Speaker 2: And of course we talked Kevin Durant. You know, I mean,

787
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Speaker 2: big name, but wherever he lands isn't really gonna make

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Speaker 2: that much of a difference. So we'll get back to

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Speaker 2: some of the NBA talk in just as a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, twenty minutes from now, we will dive into

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Speaker 2: the NBA talk or lack thereof, with a certain twenty

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Speaker 2: million dollar a year media member who may have been

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Speaker 2: caught playing Solitaire in the middle of a crucial game

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Speaker 2: four last night.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna put my mind sweeper game down now

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Speaker 3: since we're back on the air.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm angry. Birds is going to be put to

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Speaker 2: the side here for half a second. But let's switch

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Speaker 2: gears here and we'll again. We'll get back to the

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Speaker 2: NBA in just a few minutes. But WNBA.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's good to know, man, I mean, the season

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Speaker 3: started today started. It's exciting. Meant, the last one felt

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Speaker 3: like it only lasted a couple of weeks, Like, gosh,

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Speaker 3: sport is really getting good, because man, I want it

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Speaker 3: more like it was only there for it seemed like

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Speaker 3: it's like eight games or something like that, and then

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, it just completely disappeared from existence.

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Speaker 3: I guess they crowned a champion. I missed. I missed

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Speaker 3: the entire playoffs, But good to see it back today.

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Speaker 2: Well, in all seriousness, there's there's two different angles to

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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I was totally serious.

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Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing. So Kaitlyn Carr comes back today.

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Speaker 2: She was awesome. Uh, Indiana Fever playing the undefeated at

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Speaker 2: the time, New York Liberty. Indiana wins one oh two

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Speaker 2: eighty eight. Caitlin Clark thirty two points, seven of fourteen

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Speaker 2: from three, eight rebounds, nine assists. She'd have seven turnoffs.

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Speaker 2: So there's that, and it comes on the heels of yeah, basically,

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Speaker 2: the WNBA basically ceasing to exist without her. This was

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Speaker 2: from an article that I saw earlier in the week.

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Speaker 2: The two NBA games, the two NBA TV games that

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Speaker 2: feature the Fever without Kaitlin Clark were down forty percent

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Speaker 2: from Fever Dream on NBA TV when she played Sunday's

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Speaker 2: game against the Sky. I think it was Saturdays actually,

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Speaker 2: because that was the game we talked about last week,

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Speaker 2: was down thirty percent from the season opener. So basically,

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Speaker 2: and let's see here, I want to make sure I

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Speaker 2: have this right. Basically, Indiana Fever lost somewhere between thirty

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Speaker 2: to forty percent of their audience without Caitlin Clark. She

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Speaker 2: was back on Saturday, so we can talk about her performance.

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Speaker 2: But I think probably the more interesting thing is that, basically,

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Speaker 2: if we needed confirmation that the WNBA is in a

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Speaker 2: league as much as it is a person that draws

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Speaker 2: interest in a bunch of other people playing basketball. I

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Speaker 2: think we got it while she was gone these last

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Speaker 2: few weeks.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that this was the worst news for everybody

838
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Speaker 3: hoping for her to fail, or the other players in

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Speaker 3: that league who are just walking just envy machines when

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Speaker 3: it comes to her and the way that they relate

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Speaker 3: to her and what they have to say about her.

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Speaker 3: Her coming out and having thirty two, just going absolutely

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Speaker 3: insane from distance like five to six feet beyond the

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Speaker 3: arc repeatedly in this game, and beating an undefeated team

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Speaker 3: that has been one of the best teams in that

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Speaker 3: league for a while, like this is the worst news ever.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't stink, folks. One of the reasons why she

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Speaker 3: has talked about the way she has talked about is

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Speaker 3: because she's really good at basketball. And yes, she possesses

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Speaker 3: some charismas she possesses some things that that league has

851
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: not had in a while. And it started with just

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Speaker 3: being in the right place at the right time in college.

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Speaker 3: And now we get to this point, you wonder how

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Speaker 3: big a star she is. I mean, there was a

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Speaker 3: Big Time feature piece this week about how she and

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Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton have like this great friendship, that they're thickest

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Speaker 3: thieves and that they drive one another to succeed. We're

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Speaker 3: in middle of the NBA Finals and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: a w NBA player inspiring a w an NBA superstar

860
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: in that same city.

861
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: And real quick, it's believable too, Yes it is. But

862
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: like you know, there's been stories of like, oh, this

863
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: women's player and this men's player have really struck up

864
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: a friendship. It's like, no, I could see how two young,

865
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: super dynamic players and a player as captivating against Caitlin

866
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: Clark could inspire. I don't want to say it makes

867
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: you sound sexist or something, but like I could see

868
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: this scenario where Tyrese Haliburton really is looking at her

869
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: and saying like, wow, I could.

870
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: Learn a thing or two yeah, and vice versa. And

871
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: so that to me just it talks about you know

872
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: what she is. And so, yes, swimming was not a sport.

873
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: Michael Phelps was that sport for a long period of time.

874
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: Before him, it was Mark Spitz. And you know, there

875
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: have been a couple of moments like that track was

876
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: about one guy for a very very long time when

877
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: it came to bolts and things like that, and that's

878
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: what some sports are. And the difference between the Olympic sports,

879
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: for example, and what you have with Caitlyn Clark is

880
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: they get to play every year and you can maximize

881
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: that all the time, whereas swimming can maximize it, you know,

882
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: once twice in a four year span, depending on championships

883
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: that then lead to the Olympics, and then you know

884
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: that career. You don't ever know how long it's going

885
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: to last, how many times they're going to want to

886
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: do it. All of that. Katie Ldecki another example or

887
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: something like that, like we're not paying attention to every swimmer,

888
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: We're paying attention to one, and we're not focused on

889
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: anything about them other than their greatness. And so when

890
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: you look at this, the WNBA has this unique thing

891
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: here where Caitlin Clark is in that league like she's yours.

892
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: You can do so much with her. So stop working

893
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: against her and stop talking badly about her, and stop

894
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 3: flagrant fouling her to death and all this other stuff,

895
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: and stop talking behind your teeth about her seemingly in

896
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: every interview, and tell your legends to stop talking about

897
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: her in the way that they are, Like, we can

898
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: all see there's a meal ticket here, Like today was

899
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: the first game that that league has had since her

900
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 3: injury that anyone paid attention to whatsoever, Like you texted

901
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: me multiple times today about that game and what was happening.

902
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: You've got people that cover sports that are far bigger

903
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 3: stars in this industry that we're talking about that game,

904
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: and you have some that don't cover sports that we're

905
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: still talking about that game. She's a happening, She's an event.

906
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: She's that like, she's the one. That's what she is

907
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: for that league. She's the one, and the league is

908
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: either going to have to embrace that or they're going

909
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: to perish behind it because her injury basically sidelined that

910
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: entire league. And when she came back, and here's another

911
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: example of it, the Olympics not putting her on that team.

912
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: No one cared about the women's team whatsoever in the Olympics. Basically,

913
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: the w NBA stopped their season so that they could

914
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: do that Olympics thing and Clark wasn't a part of it.

915
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: So women's basketball just went away for a while. That

916
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: tells you what a needle mover she is. In fact,

917
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: not just what a needle mover. She's the one needle

918
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: mover in that sport, and everybody needs to stop denying it.

919
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: That is trying to create some other kind of story,

920
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: because it's a fairy tale, folks, it's a fable. No

921
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: one is buying it well.

922
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: And I think the worst part about today for the

923
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: other or however many players there are in the WNBA,

924
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: if there's just this notion that she's popular because WNBA

925
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: fans are racist and da da, and this is not well.

926
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: Brianna Stewart is one of the best players in the league.

927
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: Sabrina Iyesku is one of the best players in the league.

928
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark with thirty to eight and nine, and listen,

929
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to say she single handedly beat him,

930
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: because he's got some other talented players on the team.

931
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: But it's like, okay, if you want to argue that

932
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: she was just some you know, she she was great

933
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: in college and she carried some momentum into the league.

934
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: Now I think it was stupid. I think it was stupid.

935
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: Let me let me preface by saying that if that

936
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: was actually your argument, I think it was a very

937
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: poor argument. But if that was your argument, okay, and

938
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: that oh it's just a bunch of Iowa fans and oh,

939
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: I mean it's just a bunch of racist people that

940
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: just like her. It's like, okay, well, she comes back

941
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: off of a quad injury. By the way, I think

942
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: that's the other thing. It's not like she uh, she

943
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: hurt her you know, non shooting pinky finger like a quad.

944
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: She couldn't move, She probably couldn't do very much on

945
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: the court activity until the last couple of days. Immediately

946
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: comes back drops thirty two points on seven or fourteen,

947
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: shooting from three with eight points to nine and six.

948
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: So this notion that somehow she's only popular because she

949
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: again because of some momentum from Iowa or racist fans

950
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: or whatever other dumb narrative people want to put out there.

951
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: Listen, man, that league, that league above all, sorry Anna Row,

952
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: but that league above all is one that is much

953
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: more colorblind in its history, right, Like, I mean, let's

954
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: really think about it. Rebecca Lobo, Sue Bird, Diana Tarossi.

955
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: Like you've had You've had them from all walks of life.

956
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: You've had them across racial linch, You've had maya more.

957
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: You've had them coming from the same school in candas Parker, like,

958
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: you've had all sorts of great players in that league,

959
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: all sorts of representation coming from that number one pick,

960
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: to all of a sudden single this one out and

961
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: say this is an example of blatant racism. Is just

962
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: flat out wrong, like it's misapplied and it's honestly malicious

963
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: because you don't like you cannot honestly intellectually make that argument.

964
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: You are either lying to yourself or you're trying to

965
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: create controversy where none exists. That league has never ever

966
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: been talked about in that way because again, I think

967
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: maybe more so than just about any league that I

968
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: can think of, there have been a myriad of white

969
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: stars that have been a myriad of black stars. In

970
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: terms of just great players in that league. There's never

971
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: been a Caitlyn Clark. And it's not because she's white.

972
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 3: It's because she's Caitlyn Clark.

973
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt. And I was just

974
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: saying that as and I know you know this, but

975
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: I was just saying that as whatever justification. And by

976
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: the way, let me even say this, I'll actually defend

977
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: some WNBA people because I was one and again maybe

978
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: it's the Yukon and me. You know, I probably paid

979
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more attention to some of these college

980
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: players through the years than the average person. But to

981
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: your point, you know, it be my alma mater. I'm

982
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: defensive of Maya Moore and Breonna Stewart and Diana Drausis.

983
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: And I remember even saying at the time, it's like

984
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: people are acting like there have never been great women's

985
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: basketball players before Caitlyn Clark. But I think what is

986
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: indisputable is that not only is she popular because she's

987
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: really good, but it has officially translated into the WNBA,

988
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, whatever you think about oh

989
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: Iowa and you know the if you remember the criticism

990
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: at the time, Oh she gets to shoot whenever she wants,

991
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: and the whole system, whatever it was, All I'm trying

992
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: to say is that it is now indisputable she has

993
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: come into this league. She was incredible last year. I mean,

994
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: I remember early in the season we were talking about

995
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: some of the stats that had popped up about I

996
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: think she had already set the record or tie the

997
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: record for most twenty five point tennis this game. Whatever,

998
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: it is, the only point I'm trying to make is

999
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: that whatever argument anybody had that it was something other

1000
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: than just being a really good basketball player for him,

1001
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: For her to come back with one leg, you know,

1002
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: basically playing on one leg and doing what she did tonight,

1003
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: it was pretty incredible.

1004
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, they needed her to be bad and

1005
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 3: she's not. Yep, And it's really that simple. She's really

1006
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: good at the sport and the other thing. And I

1007
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: do think this is part of it. She also just

1008
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: wasn't irritating, she wasn't annoying when she was in the spotlight,

1009
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: when she did interviews, there was a down to earthness

1010
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: to her, which is why I think so many people

1011
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: balked when she sort of bent the knee and tried

1012
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: to like do everything she could to downplay her own

1013
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: success when she was winning all those awards last and

1014
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: all that other stuff, because she used to just kind

1015
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: of go about her business and what happened around her happened.

1016
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: And that seemed to be kind of a direct shift

1017
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: in mentality and approach and it didn't feel very Caitlin

1018
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: Clark light. But yeah, like she's still trash talking and

1019
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: everything on the floor, but the way she carried herself,

1020
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: conducted herself, dealt with media, dealt with children, dealt with

1021
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: all of this stuff. Like she was above reproach in

1022
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: so many ways, and so she didn't give you, you know,

1023
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: any grounds for complaint. There was no really, there was

1024
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: no room to be upset with her. And I think

1025
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: that drove a lot of people nuts as well. Because

1026
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: you can do all the opposition research that you want

1027
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: to on her, you weren't going to find a whole lot.

1028
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: It's an interesting deal.

1029
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

1030
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: And again, I just think that there's a lot of

1031
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: things that I don't think anyone with common sense thought

1032
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: were disputable, but they are pretty indisputable. After one game

1033
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: back Fever beat the undefeated New York Liberty one two

1034
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: eighty eight thirty two who eight and nine for Caitlin

1035
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: Clark and again seven to three pointers made Fox Sports

1036
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,200
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1037
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,000
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1038
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1039
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,600
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1040
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1041
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1043
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1046
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1047
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: Indiana on Saturday to the lows of a sad game

1048
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: of Solitaire in the same arena, we'll discuss all that next.

1049
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,799
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1050
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,920
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1052
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1053
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1054
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio aer towards Jason Martin

1055
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Want to

1056
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: talk about our buddy over at the other network, Solitaire

1057
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: a Smith in just one moment. But speaking of glamorous,

1058
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: Steve Desager, take it away, my friend, what is trending.

1059
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 5: Solitaire A Smith. Don't know why we didn't think.

1060
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 2: Of that very I think that JMRK kind of dropped

1061
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: it in a text threat I'll dropped.

1062
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: It in a text. I hadn't seen it anywhere. I

1063
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: figure somebody did have.

1064
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: How is that not everywhere? At this point? I feel

1065
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: like Will he gives about fifteen minutes, it will.

1066
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: Be standing by.

1067
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: Well.

1068
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: We've got two late games in Major League Baseball. Two

1069
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 5: outs in the ninth, the Dodgers lead eleven to nothing

1070
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 5: over the Giants, and keyk Hernandez infield or outfielder is

1071
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 5: on the mound and he's got an ERA of one

1072
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 5: point eight to zero in relief this year. By the way,

1073
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 5: the Dodgers are ready to go back up by one

1074
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 5: game over the Giants in the NL West standings. To see,

1075
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: Padres were two games back, but they gave up five

1076
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 5: in the bottom of the ninth. At Arizona, Diamondbacks beat

1077
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 5: him eight seven for a fifth straight victory. Cleveland is

1078
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 5: leading in the top of the nine three to two.

1079
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 5: At Seattle. Boston beat the Yankees four to three. Atlanta

1080
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: defeated Colorado four to one. The Rockies record thirteen and

1081
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 5: fifty seven wins for the Phillies. The Rays and Miami

1082
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: won at Washington for to three. The Nationals have lost

1083
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: seven in a row. Game five of the Stanley Cup

1084
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 5: Final went to the Florida Panthers five to two at Edmonton.

1085
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 5: Two goals for Brad Marshawn at age thirty seven. He's

1086
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 5: the oldest player ever to score at least six goals

1087
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 5: in a Stanley Cup final. He has six goals in

1088
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: the five games so far, and Game six is at

1089
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: Florida on Tuesday. The NBA Finals continue Monday today. In

1090
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: the WNBA, Caitland Clark thirty two points. Indiana beat New

1091
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 5: York one oh two. Eighty eight victories for Golden State

1092
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 5: and Minnesota. Sam Burns leads the US Open by one stroke.

1093
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 5: Adam Scott has tied for second place at Oakmont, Pennsylvania.

1094
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 5: Victor Hoveland three back Rory McKell shot a third round

1095
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 5: seventy four after barely making the cut. He's now ten

1096
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 5: over par. Phil Mickelson yesterday admits the cut at eight

1097
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: over at ten over on Friday, where Dustin Johnson and

1098
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 5: Bryson Deshambo Justin Thomas was twelve over par. Not golfing

1099
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 5: this weekend. At College Baseball's World Series, number six seed

1100
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 5: LSU tonight defeated number three Arkansas four to one. UCLA one.

1101
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 5: It's opener today against Murray State six to four. Daniel

1102
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 5: Suarez won NASCAR's Infinity Race in Mexico, his home country.

1103
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 5: He had started at the rear of the field in

1104
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 5: a backup car after crashing in qualifying soccer in La Tonight,

1105
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: Mexico opened the Gold Cup tournament with a three to

1106
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 5: two win over the Dominican Republic. US men's soccer as

1107
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 5: the host for it this month on Fox and FS one.

1108
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 5: Fox will have the US first game against Trinidad on

1109
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 5: Sunday and now the record for the new US coach

1110
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: just five and five, and the Americans will be co

1111
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 5: hosting the World Cup in a year. Miami hosted the

1112
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 5: opener of the FIFA Club World Cup tonight at zero

1113
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 5: zero tie against El Aliya Club from Egypt. Attend in

1114
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: sixty thousand and the UFL Championship game went to d

1115
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 5: C fifty eight to thirty four over Michigan.

1116
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager. One

1117
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: other update. We have reached the point of the Dodgers

1118
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: Giants game where Kike Hernandez is on the mound pitching,

1119
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: throwing fifty six miles an hour fifty six mile an

1120
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: hour fastballs down the play.

1121
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: When he pitched earlier this week, about literally half of

1122
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 5: his pitches were under fifty miles per hour.

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: So is he throwing like knuckleballs or does he just

1124
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: have he can't his arm can't be that week, just.

1125
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 5: Little curve balls, slow slower than matting prick. I played

1126
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: in a little league where our star pitcher actually threw

1127
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 5: harder than fifty.

1128
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: Five miles an hour, no doubt.

1129
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 5: At eleven, twelve years old. And yes, he's just allowed

1130
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 5: a home run and then two outs in the nights

1131
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 5: so ran slam.

1132
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: An eleven nothing game became an eleven four game really quick.

1133
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: So I'll see it will be curious see how many more,

1134
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: how much longer Dave Roberts lets them have fun out there,

1135
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: but two outs in the bottom of the night.

1136
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 5: So it's three walks and a homer. Yeah, that's what

1137
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 5: he's given up on in relief. And you notice he

1138
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 5: wears that little half helmet as the protection, which none

1139
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 5: of the regular pictures do.

1140
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Oh but just in case of a line drive comeback.

1141
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: Sure I did see that helmet. All right to Seger,

1142
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: thank you very much. This is Fox Sports radio eron

1143
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: tours days. By the way, say would be back about

1144
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes with his extended update. Hopefully the Dodgers could

1145
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: close this out. If not, it's all right. So actually

1146
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: funny story. I was at the Dodgers game on on

1147
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: Friday night. Wasn't I able to watch Game four live?

1148
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: We'll get back to Game four in a minute. And yes,

1149
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: I went back and watched it on Saturday. For people

1150
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: to say, oh, you're just talking about a gaming to watch,

1151
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: But did happen to pop on social media for half

1152
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: a second?

1153
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: Uh?

1154
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: And I saw the picture pretty early, most famous picture

1155
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: since what I don't know, Watergate or something. I don't

1156
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: know was there even pictures in Watergate? Anyway? Steven A Smith,

1157
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: the highest paid sports media member that I'm aware of,

1158
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: certainly in the opinion space, is caught online with a

1159
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: picture of him playing Solitaire in the middle of Game

1160
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: four of the NBA Final. Shout out to Kimberly, who

1161
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: tweeted out the original picture. She said, how can you

1162
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: have all these opinions while you're playing Solitaire instead of

1163
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: watching the game. The original tweet got over seven thousand views.

1164
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: Steven A eventually found the tweet said quote, Yep, that's me.

1165
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: Who would have thought I can multitask, especially during timeouts.

1166
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: Hope y'all are enjoying the NBA Finals. This is going game.

1167
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 2: This is going seven games Now Peeps. Then from there

1168
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: also followed up with a screenshot of his Solitaire game.

1169
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: I would add multiple people have the full video in

1170
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: which it is very clearly not during a timeout. He

1171
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: is very much not multitasking and is very much just

1172
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: playing Solitaire during a game in which he is being

1173
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: paid millions of dollars to analyze it. J Mart, how

1174
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: fired up are you on this?

1175
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: Not really, if only because I don't know how long

1176
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: he was looking down, Like I find it funny first,

1177
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: Like I think I think it could have been a

1178
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: lot better response from Steven A if he's just like, yeah, man,

1179
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: like in game, plants down. Yeah, Like this kind of

1180
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: stuff happens, right, and then you could joke about it

1181
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: and just kind of be sort of self deferential instead

1182
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: of like trying to defend your honor in this case,

1183
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 3: like just just own up to what was going on here.

1184
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: But the whole I can multitask, especially during timeouts. Well,

1185
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 3: if it wasn't during a timeout, then you know somebody

1186
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: was gonna find that and they were going to be

1187
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: able to prove it out. Like I remember, I've been

1188
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 3: in press boxes before covering some college stuff or something

1189
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: like that. Between innings. I don't know if it was solitarire.

1190
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure I played something. It happens, and we all

1191
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: have games. You'll have a game or two on your

1192
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: phone or something like that. A lot of people do.

1193
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: This is not like some outrageous thing that could have happened,

1194
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: but like him like coming out here because if my

1195
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: scar's reputation, I think makes.

1196
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 6: It reveals it for what it is. It's just like, yeah, dude,

1197
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 6: you screwed up and you got caught. You got to know, man,

1198
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 6: somebody is gonna see it if you're doing it, so

1199
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 6: make sure you understand what it is that you're doing

1200
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 6: in the moment. But like, I do not care that

1201
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 6: much about it because I've listened to Steven A.

1202
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 3: Smith for so long at this point, even though pretty

1203
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: much don't do it at all anymore that I pretty

1204
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 3: much don't think he watches much sports like based on

1205
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: most of his takes and the way he operates. I

1206
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: remember talking to somebody. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

1207
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 3: actually name drop this person in this conversation, but I

1208
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: had a conversation with somebody that you would know in

1209
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: sports media. It's been around for a long time. Has

1210
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: a lot of respect. Not somebody that works for Fox,

1211
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: by the way, But we were talking about steven A

1212
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: and he said, Man, I actually really like steven A

1213
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: now that you know, now that he understands that this

1214
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: whole thing is just he's just playing a character. It's

1215
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: not about him knowing sports and I have to know

1216
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: anything about college sports and have to watch college football

1217
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 3: or know anything about the NFL, because he's not trying

1218
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 3: to act like he's smart anymore. He's in on the joke.

1219
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: Everybody's in on the joke. Now, He's just a character.

1220
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: He's just a television personality. He was saying that an

1221
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: he meant it, and I was thinking about it, and

1222
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: I was just kind of like, how much of an

1223
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: indictment is it? And then when you watch it under

1224
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: that context, you're like, Yeah, dude's just playing a role.

1225
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: Like it's not even that he's being given his opinions.

1226
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: He's just whatever his opinion is on any given topic,

1227
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: Like do I think he's watching tennis, Do I think

1228
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: he's watching golf? Do I think he's watching half the

1229
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 3: NBA games he claims to be watching. Do I think

1230
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: he's really well versed on college football? And all these things. No,

1231
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 3: I mean he knew about then for a very very

1232
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: long time, but these days, I mean, his schedules pretty

1233
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: packed up. So like, I actually thought that was a

1234
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: pretty insightful comment from this person who basically was just like,

1235
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that he's paying much attention anymore. He's

1236
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: just playing a character. He's just being Steven A. Smith.

1237
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: He's an entertainer for a living. He's not an analyst.

1238
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: So at that point, I don't care if he's playing solitaire,

1239
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: because his analysis is something to text seriously anyway.

1240
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: So two things. One. First of all, we do have

1241
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: an update from Dodger Stadium. It is interesting enough where

1242
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts has actually brought in a real pitcher for

1243
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: those joining us. It was eleven nothing. They brought in

1244
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: keyk Hernandez. He walks three batters, gives up a grand slam.

1245
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: There was then runners on first and second, still two outs,

1246
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: ground ball of the shortstop, throwing error, another run score,

1247
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: So it's eleven five with two runners on. So I

1248
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: just bring it up because Dave Roberts does go to

1249
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: the bullpen. I didn't see who's coming in, but a

1250
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: real pitcher is in fact comingy looks like Anthony Bonda

1251
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: will be the guy who hopefully closes out this game.

1252
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: As far as steven A, let's get back to steven A. Okay,

1253
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: so listen. I don't want to be mister you know,

1254
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: get super fired up and angry about everything. But what

1255
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: I first of all, and I actually do agree with

1256
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: the sentiment that you said of I think not long ago,

1257
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: at some point steven A kind of figured out like, oh, like,

1258
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: nobody's actually like paying attention to me because I have

1259
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: the most accurate takes on anything. And by the way,

1260
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: that's a lot of our job. Whether it's yeah, it's

1261
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: to be interesting and it's on first take, it's on

1262
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: any TV show, it's on whatever. I guess the only

1263
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: thing that I would push back on is that he

1264
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: is very specifically on NBA Finals coverage to be an analyst.

1265
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, we've spent a lot

1266
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: of time talking about the poor broadcast. He asked in

1267
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: crew minus Mike Breen, the poor studio crew, the poor

1268
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: halftime crew, how excited we are for inside the NBA

1269
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: And it's like you are on set with a former

1270
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: championship winning GM Bob Myers and whatever you think about

1271
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins, he does have an NBA Championship ring, and

1272
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: like you are on there to be an actual analyst,

1273
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: and so, like I do think it's a little embarrassing

1274
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: for ESPN. You've kind of given this guy a position

1275
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: that he really, frankly has no business having, which is all,

1276
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: by the way, very good at his job. Whatever, I

1277
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: don't care, and I'm not a purse watcher. I don't

1278
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,959
Speaker 2: care how much money he makes. He's earned it whatever,

1279
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: that part I don't care about. But like he is

1280
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Speaker 2: in the role of an analyst very clearly not paying attention.

1281
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, he doesn't have fifteen years in

1282
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: the NBA like Kendrick Perkins to fall back down. He

1283
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have fifteen years in the NBA like rich Jefferson

1284
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: to fall backup. So that would be my pushback. If

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: he was in the arena and his only job was

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: to be a first take host on Monday reacting to

1287
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: Game four, that to me is different than a dude

1288
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: who is a supposed analyst that is going to be

1289
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Speaker 2: on at halftime and in postgame supposedly breaking down the game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't disagree there. I think that yeah, like I

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: mean to him being on the booth. Yeah, he should

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: be paying very very close attention to what's going on.

1293
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: And again, the person who caught him, I mean, did

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01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: they watch him for ten minutes? Do we know if

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 3: you was stare at the phone the whole time. I'm

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: not reaching to defend him. I'm just I'm not like

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: so blown away by this. I mean, Charles Barkley's watching

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: hockey while TNT is on the air, like I don't

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01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: even mean during the games, but he'll watch it during

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01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, but they'll be doing inside the NBA,

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 3: and he'll actually be looking they'll show the camera shot.

1302
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: He won't be looking at the camera. He'll be looking

1303
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: at the television next to it and commenting on the

1304
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: hockey game that's happening. That's part of his shtick. And

1305
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,439
Speaker 3: so it's a little bit different than this analogy. I agree,

1306
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: if you're on the boot, you should be paying tension.

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 3: I also am just kind of like man, like, no

1308
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: one is held to account for their dumb takes anymore.

1309
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't know when, I don't know when they

1310
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 3: ever were, but we certainly have reached a point where

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 3: you can say the most ignorant stuff to a large

1312
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: audience on a day to day basis. You're never going

1313
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: to be held to account for it if you're interesting,

1314
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: like we talked about, if you're entertaining all that kind

1315
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: of stuff, because it's more about your personality than it is,

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01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: you know, your credibility. And I think that's the part

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01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: of it, Like what is ESPN's actual credibility at this

1318
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 3: point when it comes to the minute by minute analysis

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01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: that they provide. I think it diminishes by the day.

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 3: Even those that are good at it eventually kind of

1321
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: fall prey to the ESPN way of doing things, for example,

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: and they kind of they all sort of end up

1323
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 3: doing almost the same exact kind of thing. And Steven

1324
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: has been there for a long time and he's high paid,

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 3: and he looked he's good at the entertainment side of it.

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: That's very very obvious, like his persona, his character, what

1327
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: he's been able to craft and all that kind of stuff.

1328
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: Like there's a reason why you know, he is paid

1329
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 3: as much as he is because he attracts attention positive

1330
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 3: and negative, and people do come out of their way

1331
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: to see him. But it's like, do I care what

1332
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: he has to say about individual things that are happening

1333
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: in sports, not really, because I don't know that he's

1334
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: actually putting that much thought into it. And so I

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01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 3: look at all this and everything you say is I

1336
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: agree with. I just can't, like, I can't raise myself

1337
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: to the level of caring because I guess my bar

1338
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: for what media has become in this era is so

1339
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 3: low that it's just like, I don't surprise me. I

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: don't even care.

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01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: I'll put a button on it by saying this. I

1342
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: will be genuinely fascinated. You know, every single I think

1343
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: really too thing inside the NBA coming to an end

1344
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: on TNT, coupled with what is just mediocre, studio, mediocre,

1345
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: whatever it has, it does become like a daily talking

1346
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: point now about inside the NBA coming to ESPN. And

1347
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: this is something I know you and I have talked about,

1348
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: which is just I'm just genuinely curious. Is he cut out?

1349
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: Does he finagle his way in?

1350
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 3: Like?

1351
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: Is he on set with Chuck and Check?

1352
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: That's gonna be that that moment is gonna be. That's

1353
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: gonna be the one where it crosses that rubicon. It

1354
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 3: can't come back from they need to. I don't know

1355
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: that they can Aaron, but they need to avoid doing

1356
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: that at all costs because it's not going to get

1357
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: the reaction that they want. It's just not it's it's

1358
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: not worth it. They need to still look like a

1359
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: separate entity that is one hundred independent. It still needs

1360
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 3: to almost look like it's on TNT, and they still

1361
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 3: need to be themselves. And the second that he shows

1362
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 3: up there, the second there's a split screen with the

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 3: two of them, that show is dead.

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't happen. I think every legitimate fan

1365
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: of not only the NBA, but inside the NBA feels

1366
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 2: the exact same way that you do. Jmar So, Fox

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. I will come back. We've talked

1369
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: a lot of NBA, but there is all sorts of

1370
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: stuff that has happened throughout the day, and Steve de

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: Sagra get you caught up on everything if you missed.

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01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: That's next. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports

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01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: Radio Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox

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01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. As we do every week around this time,

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: let's toss over the news desk to Seger give us

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01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: our extended update for tonight guys.

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 5: The NBA Finals continue on Monday, Indiana and Oklahoma City

1378
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 5: series died at two and then we're gonna have a

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01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 5: game six at Indiana on Thursday. If you saw the

1380
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 5: finish last night, you know that the MVP SGA had

1381
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 5: fifteen points score just in the last five minutes of

1382
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 5: that game on the road. That's the most by a

1383
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 5: player in the last five minutes of a Finals game

1384
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 5: in the last fifty years. Know, the TV ratings have

1385
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 5: not been good, but that's when you compare it to

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 5: other NBA Finals, so it's a fair comparison.

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01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: The ratings are not good, period, but Adam Silver disagrees.

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 5: But television ratings in general are not good. You'd need

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01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 5: to put this in context. The first three games of

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 5: this series, or you know, some of the lowest ratings

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 5: we've ever seen for the Finals. They're also the highest

1392
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 5: ratings for any TV channel in the last month, those

1393
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 5: first three games.

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: So you're on Adam Silver's pran.

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 5: I'm saying, no, NBA Finals should be doing better than this.

1396
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,919
Speaker 5: But when I hear things like and I'm quoting including

1397
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 5: on this network nobody's watching. Really, nine million people watch

1398
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 5: Game three of the NBA Finals. Tell me a TV

1399
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 5: program that gets nine million people watching. There's a reason

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 5: why the NBA has a new TV contracts starting next year,

1401
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 5: and it's because it gets better ratings than normal TV programs,

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 5: and in most cases three to five times more than

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 5: regular TV programs.

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was.

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 5: Only nine nine point two million for Game three on Wednesday,

1406
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 5: for example, very bad ratings for the Spring Football League,

1407
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 5: which ended tonight. The UFL championship game was taking place

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 5: at the Dome in Saint Louis, DC over Michigan fifty

1409
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 5: eight thirty four. The game MVP former Ole Miss quarterback

1410
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 5: Jordan ta'amu four touchdown passes. He was twenty one of

1411
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 5: twenty eight for three hundred and ninety yards tonight, but

1412
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 5: almost every team, seven of the eight in the UFL

1413
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 5: had their average attendance drop this year. According to Sports

1414
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 5: Business Journal, Michigan's was up and Michigan made the final,

1415
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,959
Speaker 5: and the Michigan Panthers had the league MVP. Bryce Perkins,

1416
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 5: former Rams backup QB. He had four touchdowns one interception

1417
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 5: in the loss tonight, but TV viewership was most definitely down.

1418
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 5: It was less than a million already last spring, and

1419
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 5: now it's under six hundred and fifty thousand TV viewers

1420
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 5: per game this spring. As for Major League Baseball, everything's final.

1421
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 5: You might remember how dominant a closer Cleveland had last

1422
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 5: year up until the Yankees playoff series. Emmanuel Classe is

1423
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 5: not having that type of season this regular season. He

1424
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 5: took the loss at Seattle tonight, giving up two runs

1425
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 5: in the bottom of the ninth, four to three.

1426
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,520
Speaker 3: Mariners.

1427
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 5: Jose Ramirez, a quiet All Star every year for the Guardians,

1428
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 5: did have a solo homer. He's been on base thirty

1429
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 5: nine straight games now. And what a comeback at Arizona,

1430
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 5: beating San Diego eight to seven. The Padres now three

1431
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 5: games back in the division. Giants are one back. We'll

1432
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 5: get to that in a moment. But Arizona's won five

1433
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 5: straight games. They scored five in the bottom of the

1434
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 5: ninth to win eight to seven, Especially notable because they

1435
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 5: scored the five off the Padre closer Robertsrez, who has

1436
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 5: the most saves in the major leagues this year, twenty one,

1437
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 5: and his ERA was one point seven to eight coming

1438
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 5: into tonight. In fact, for Arizona. This is already the

1439
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 5: third time this season they've come back from being down

1440
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 5: at least four in the ninth to win a game

1441
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 5: three times already in the first half of this campaign.

1442
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 5: No other MLB team has ever had three such wins

1443
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 5: before All Star Break, and All Star Break has existed

1444
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 5: since the nineteen thirties. We had a Dodger win over

1445
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 5: the Giants that washing in the ninth eleven to five.

1446
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: The final.

1447
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 5: Clayton Kershaw, the winner, not only seven scoreless innings and

1448
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 5: only eighty one pitches thrown, he threw a three hitter

1449
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 5: for those seven innings. Clayton Kershaw is now just twelve

1450
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 5: strikeouts away from three thousand for his career. Shoe Otani

1451
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 5: had a leadoff homer, later a solo homer. He has

1452
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 5: twenty five round trippers this year and two hundred and

1453
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 5: fifty career home runs in the major leagues. Texas won

1454
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 5: in a eleven innings over the White Sox, five to four.

1455
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 5: That is the first extra inning game of the year

1456
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 5: for Texas, ending their franchise record seventy games to start

1457
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 5: a season without a single one going to extra frames

1458
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 5: until today. The amazing stat is from longtime baseball writer

1459
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 5: Bob Nightingale that the Rangers this win today was the

1460
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 5: first time they've overcome any deficit of more than one

1461
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 5: to post a victory, So congratulations. Texas has won six

1462
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 5: of seven. And then there's the game that was in Atlanta,

1463
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 5: Braves four to one over Colorado. Spencer Strider the winner,

1464
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 5: thirteen strikeouts in six scoreless innings. And by the way,

1465
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 5: lefty Chris Slee will pitch not tomorrow but instead against

1466
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 5: the Mets this next week. Ronald Dcunya had a two

1467
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: run homer three runs scored. He's batting three to eighty

1468
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 5: seven coming back from injury. But the Rockies are thirteen

1469
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 5: and fifty seven, the worst overall record after seventy games

1470
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 5: since nineteen oh one. Their offense today went four for

1471
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 5: three thirty two with nineteen strikeouts, four hits, nineteen strikeouts

1472
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 5: at Atlanta, so the road record of the Rockies, and

1473
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 5: again it has been a rocky road. Six and thirty

1474
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 5: for Colorado. Boston over the Yankees in the Fox TV

1475
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 5: game for most of the country four to three, and

1476
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 5: it was four to nothing after six innings. Carlos Rodan

1477
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 5: took the loss. D H Gen Carlos Stanton of New

1478
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 5: York could be activated next week. Houston won its fourth

1479
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 5: straight game, got a run bottom of the ninth to

1480
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 5: beat Minnesota three to two. The wind to closer Josh

1481
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 5: Hater and pretty quietly nationally. There's been a superb starting

1482
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 5: pitcher in Houston this year. Hunter Brown did not get

1483
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 5: a decision, but his era is one point eight eight.

1484
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 5: He's eight and three twelve strikeouts for Brown in his

1485
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 5: seven innings against the Twins. Tampa Bay beat the Mets

1486
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 5: in New York again, eight to four. The Mets home

1487
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 5: record was twenty seven and seven until losses against the

1488
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 5: Rays Friday and Saturday. At Philadelphia, the Phil's got a

1489
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 5: solo homer bottom of the eight fur Max Kepler and

1490
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 5: won three to two over Toronto. The Philly scored two

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Speaker 5: times in the fourth, went on a basis loaded walk

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01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 5: and a bases loaded hit batter, and wound up winning

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 5: three to two. Miami sent Washington to a seventh straight loss,

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 5: four to three. In the final, the Nationals got two

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 5: runs in the bottom of the ninth on a wild

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 5: pitch and on an air and had bases loaded and

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 5: left them loaded and lost yet again, and the Reds

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 5: hit four home runs. They won at Detroit eleven to

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Speaker 5: one Detroit. He is having a great year, forty six

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Speaker 5: and twenty six the record, but Jack Flaherty took the loss.

1501
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 5: He allowed three homers today, including a grand slam, and

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01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 5: the Tigers offense went just four four thirty. And as

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01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 5: you mentioned, Caitlin Clark had thirty two points in the

1504
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 5: Indiana WNBA win over New York today which was nine

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01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: to zero.

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01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Saga. Saga with us for

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Speaker 2: another hour. We're taking it up till two am Eastern.

1508
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,240
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Speaker 2: also have always have access to all of Fox Sports

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01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: Radio's great video content. Our three coming up, and boy,

1515
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 2: oh boy, oh boy, do we have a lot to discuss.

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: We will reset game four, we will talk game five.

1517
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: Adam Silver defending the ratings. We got another hour left

1518
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 2: plenty to get to. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody our three tours Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: taking up till two am Eastern time. Yes, we are

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Speaker 2: live here at one oh one Eastern. We're taking the

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: up till two am Eastern. Bernie Frado of The Bernie

1525
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: Fratto Show follows us. You know, Bernie's got all sorts

1526
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: of good stuff coming on a busy couple days. NBA, WNBA,

1527
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: NBA Draft come up, NFL. By the way, we didn't

1528
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: miss anything NFL related today because I know Aaron Rodgers

1529
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: wearing a wedding ring, but I didn't know if that

1530
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: was a plus plus material that America expects from us.

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: Otherwise, I hope not, I really hope not.

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01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you have we Is there any

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01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: big I'll just give you the floor because we're gonna

1534
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: get back to the NBA in a second. We'll talk

1535
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: a little bit about Adam Silver talking ratings, will preview

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: game five. Is there anything NFL related that we missed

1537
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: or that you feel like we need to hit on.

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01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that there's a there's not

1539
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 3: a plus stuff, no question. I mean the Aaron Rodgers things,

1540
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 3: I mean he said it's good for his soul and

1541
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: went away. And he comes back and he's married. He's

1542
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 3: just he's Aaron Rodgers. Yep, like any anybody that thinks

1543
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: that the Steelers are better right now than they were

1544
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: three weeks ago. I got a bridge to sell you,

1545
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 3: and I want some of what you are, what you have, Like,

1546
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: I don't. I just don't see it, man, I do

1547
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 3: not see it. Good for him though. I mean, I'm

1548
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: glad he got married. I hope it's the right woman.

1549
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: I hope that they have a wonderful life together and

1550
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 3: that you know, this helps kind of ground him a

1551
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: little bit and it gives him the thing that he's

1552
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 3: been missing. But like it's just the most Aaron Rodgers

1553
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen. Like it's just an he comes

1554
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 3: back and I'm a new guy, and I did this

1555
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 3: for my soul. And this time it didn't take a

1556
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: darkness retreat and it didn't take glamping at Coachella or

1557
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: whatever it is that it is he's doing. But is

1558
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: that a plus material? No, I don't think so, not

1559
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 3: for a show like this. And then you think about it,

1560
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 3: I mean, the ab thing is just a sad, sad

1561
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: story and there's not really anything to say other than

1562
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: just it's just a bad It's just bad all the

1563
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 3: way around, and then everything else is just Dak Prescott says,

1564
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: legacy doesn't matter. I want a championship. And everybody's got

1565
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: their take about this and Trey Henderson and it's weird,

1566
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 3: Like you see all these guys that are sitting out

1567
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 3: of camp right now, guys that are leaving camp, they're

1568
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: trying to get new deals and all this. It's just

1569
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 3: this stuff's going to be ironed out. But I do

1570
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 3: think it's interesting that Aaron Rodgers took up so much

1571
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: of the Steelers' attention and TJ. Watt is trying to

1572
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 3: get a new contract and went home, like way to

1573
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: keep your eyes on the ball, Like way to be

1574
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: focused on the on the right thing. Like do I

1575
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 3: think they're going to get that taken care of? Sure

1576
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: of course they will. But it's just this is just

1577
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 3: kind of silly season to me right now in the NFL,

1578
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 3: Like everything that we're seeing right now is either a

1579
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: sad story, a weird story, or something that's not going

1580
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 3: to be a story by the time the season gets here.

1581
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you, then one follow up

1582
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: to the follow up to the follow up Shador looking

1583
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: like the best quarterback with no pads on and no

1584
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: real defense. Does that off Matt? No, I'm serious. I mean,

1585
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: does it matter to you or is it just because

1586
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean there are four pros in that in that

1587
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 2: in that facility, and well, I mean there's five dudes.

1588
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watts is clearly not playing but shit or I

1589
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean he kind of looks like the

1590
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: guy Colorado that completed seventy four percent of his passes.

1591
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: But does that matter to you or not?

1592
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 3: Yes? It does, Okay, I mean it does as much

1593
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: as something can. On June fifteenth, like the free fall

1594
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 3: made no sense, like outside of some of the stories

1595
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: that came out after the fact. Notice we talked about

1596
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: that and you know, it is what it is at

1597
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 3: this point. But if that dude's QB one in week one,

1598
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I mean, I think it's a big

1599
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 3: enough story just because it's just it's going to prove.

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 3: The problem now is like Tyler Schuck, you better be

1601
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: good like some of these other dudes, better be good.

1602
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,799
Speaker 3: And we said before the biggest loser of that draft

1603
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 3: was Dylan Gabriel. Yeah, it all played out because I mean,

1604
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: he's the he's the dude without a country at this point,

1605
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 3: Like he could have gone almost anywhere else and been

1606
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 3: in a better spot than having a dude drafted after him.

1607
01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 3: That pretty much up until whatever that dis course was

1608
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 3: leading up to the draft, all of a sudden, Shador

1609
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: just kept on falling and he became the narrative driver

1610
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 3: about everything that was going on. But the minute they

1611
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 3: drafted Shador, you knew Dylan's days were numbered when it

1612
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: came to what he's going to be able to do there.

1613
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm interested in it because it's just kind

1614
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 3: of proving what I thought was true accurate that, yeah,

1615
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 3: he's pretty good at football, and if he can keep

1616
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: his head around him and make sure that the decisions

1617
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: he's making, the people he's surrounding himself with and all

1618
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: that are going to be positive for him, grow up,

1619
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,839
Speaker 3: maybe mature just a little bit and some of that stuff.

1620
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 3: I mean, dude's got a pretty bright future. I'm not

1621
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 3: surprised that it's turning out that he can play pretty well.

1622
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens when the season comes around. There's

1623
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 3: gonna be some growing pains, but I certainly didn't think

1624
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 3: he was going to be a bus to begin with.

1625
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: So I'm fascinated and I'm kind of rooting for him,

1626
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: quite frankly.

1627
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep you updated on all that. And I

1628
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: actually kind of am rooting for him too. I thought,

1629
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: I thought the narratives, you know, like they were what

1630
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: they were, and you know, some of it I'm sure

1631
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 2: is to blame for him. By the way, I'll also

1632
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: say this really quickly. We'll get back to the NBA

1633
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,440
Speaker 2: in half a second. Deon Sanders is going to constantly

1634
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: have a microphone in front of him. He is a

1635
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: college football coach that has media availabilities multiple times a week,

1636
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: and he clearly has friends in the media that he's

1637
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: happy to hop on their podcast, slash radio show, slash

1638
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: YouTube show, whatever at a moment's notice. He is going

1639
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 2: to be asked about his son. He is going to

1640
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: defend his son and support his son like every father would.

1641
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: It's not a national talking point. Every single time he

1642
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: says something, I'm sorry, like I don't even remember what

1643
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: he said like two weeks ago, but it was like,

1644
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: oh my god, did you hear what Dion said about Shador?

1645
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, yeah, a dad thought his son

1646
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: got screwed and deserved better. That's called literally everything that

1647
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: ever happens to its child and every father ever that's

1648
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: not a story. Like I'm sorry, I don't know anyway,

1649
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: really quickly.

1650
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not wrong, everything's right. I mean, yeah,

1651
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 3: he's going to continue to say stuff, and you're going

1652
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 3: to have to continue to remember who he is. The fact,

1653
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 3: everyone's always going to want him to talk, and then

1654
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 3: they're going to pick apart what he says, and a

1655
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 3: lot of it may turn out to be unfair, forced

1656
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 3: to do, or in how it is covered after the fact,

1657
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 3: but it's going to continue to happen. And dion Is

1658
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 3: is never going to see a microphone. He's going to

1659
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 3: shy away from. So I mean it's a it's a

1660
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 3: marriage made in heaven when it comes to that side

1661
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 3: of it. And you're right, like, hey, look it's Father's Day, right,

1662
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 3: It's Father's Day at least Father's Day. Yeah, so you

1663
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 3: know this is what fathers do. Like hopefully you you

1664
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: were not defending your child when they are in the wrong.

1665
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 3: Hopefully you're taking them aside and saying, hey, you know

1666
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 3: what you got this one wrong, Bud, And you're not

1667
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: defending them when they've done something awful. But you're always

1668
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 3: going to try and stand there and take a bullet

1669
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 3: if you can. Like, you're always going to stand there

1670
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: and try to find something in it that you can

1671
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: turn to a positive, that you can turn to a good.

1672
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 3: That's what love is. That's what being a father is,

1673
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 3: That's what being a mother is. Is what all of

1674
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: these things are. Dion is just reacting the way a

1675
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: father does. We've criticized others for doing that, but athletes

1676
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 3: fathers are fathers just like everybody else. And who's the

1677
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 3: most famous father right now that we can think of,

1678
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 3: Probably Lebron James because of everything that happened with Bronny.

1679
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 3: I mean, he's certainly on that list, that's the way.

1680
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 3: And then before that, it was what LaVar Ball probably

1681
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 3: like it would be some people like that. And what

1682
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 3: was the one thing that I always one thing I

1683
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: always said about LeVar It's the same thing I would

1684
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: say about Lebron in general, and certainly would say about Dion.

1685
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I respect the fact that they are, you know,

1686
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: trying to I think they might be misguided in some

1687
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: ways and sometimes like we all are, but they are,

1688
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, trying to love their child. They're trying to

1689
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: put them in the best position for their child to succeed.

1690
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 3: And that what Olden Polony said to you a couple

1691
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 3: of weeks ago as well, that he would do the

1692
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 3: same thing for his son. Like who wouldn't write like

1693
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 3: you would do that in this case. That's not defending

1694
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: anyone or anything else, but like, this is not out

1695
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 3: of school for Dion to be doing this. This is

1696
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 3: exactly what you would expect anticipate Dion Sanders to do.

1697
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: And to then look at them be like, how dare

1698
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 3: he say this? That's just ridiculous.

1699
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I just I mean, and again the other

1700
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: thing is too like listen, uh, you know with LeVar

1701
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: he was seeking out microphones. There's just always going to

1702
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: meet microphones in front of Dion Sanders. That that's the

1703
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: fundamental difference about it. I'm not critical of LeVar either.

1704
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: I actually, you know, at the time, I you know,

1705
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: when I covered Lonzo in high school, I always like

1706
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: the var person.

1707
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: I do think he lost the plot a little bit.

1708
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 3: I think at some point it did become way too

1709
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 3: much about him. But I think that I think he

1710
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: was in it for the right reasons for a while.

1711
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, all three of you know,

1712
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 2: two of his kids are worth hundreds of millions of dollars,

1713
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 2: the third one. I'm not a music person, but apparently

1714
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: he's doing pretty well in music. It's like LeVar did

1715
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: pretty well, but LeVar, you know, was seeking out microphones.

1716
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't get the sense that Dion is

1717
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: seeking out a platform to talk Shador. But every time

1718
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: that he has interviewed, and again, when you've been around

1719
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 2: the media for thirty years like he's been, you're going

1720
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: to have friends, you're going to do radio interviews, you're

1721
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 2: going to do podcasts, and that is going to be

1722
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: a constant topic of conversation. And by the way, now

1723
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: that we're on this subject, i'll just say this, like, yeah,

1724
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: if he came out and was like, yeah, Kevin Stefanski

1725
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah, that's a talking point.

1726
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh you know, Dylan, Dylan Gabriel should have been the

1727
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: end of it. That's a talking point. But whatever, I

1728
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 2: can't even find what he said a few weeks ago,

1729
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 2: but it was the most generic like, yeah, I was

1730
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 2: disappointed in his fall. I didn't see it coming. It's like, well, yeah,

1731
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 2: none of us did. That's not a topic, and I

1732
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: just it is what it is. It's just I just,

1733
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, I think you talk about like losing the narrative,

1734
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: like I think some of the Colorado stuff got a

1735
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 2: little too crazy the last two years with Dion and

1736
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 2: Shaudor there, and now it's like I already see it.

1737
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, people are gonna ask him about his

1738
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: son again. If he's not criticizing Sefanski, if he's not

1739
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: criticizing the Browns organization, if he's not criticizing the other

1740
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: guys in that quarterback room, I don't think it's a

1741
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 2: story to say that a father supports his son, especially

1742
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: again when he's gonna have a microphone. So all of

1743
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: a sudden, we weren't talking NFL and we just did, yeah,

1744
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 2: twelve minute shaud Or segment. So I'll say this, I

1745
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: mean Shandor certainly elicits emotion and just about everybody and oh,

1746
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 2: by the way, including Dion, Fox Sports Radio Era Tors

1747
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 2: Jays Martin will come back when we do. We'll talk

1748
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: a little bit about Game four of the NBA Finals,

1749
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,919
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way Adam Silver, Oh my goodness,

1750
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 2: he's got some takes on the stagnant NBA Finals ratings.

1751
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,440
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next to Fox Sports.

1752
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 4: Radio, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

1753
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 4: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports

1754
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 4: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR

1755
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 4: to listen live.

1756
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er toris Jason Martin

1757
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Just a minute,

1758
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: we will get to some very interesting comments from Adam

1759
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 2: Silver and his perspective on NBA ratings being down for

1760
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:52,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Before we get to it, though, really quickly,

1761
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Game four on Saturday on Friday night, we talked about

1762
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 2: it to lead the show, and you know you can

1763
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: go back dello. The podcast will preview Game five here

1764
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: in just a moment. Any final thoughts j mart on

1765
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: that game. I thought, you know, kind of, honestly an

1766
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 2: hour one, a lot of the conversation to turn into

1767
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 2: how we're even covering the Pacers. Yeah, yeah, I'll say

1768
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 2: that is a team that could and frankly maybe should

1769
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 2: be up three to one. You know, listen, I think

1770
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 2: it's it's become a talking point especially in the context

1771
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: of the ratings, which we'll get into in a second

1772
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 2: of Like, we can discuss the ratings while also acknowledging

1773
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: that these are two awesome basketball teams and that for

1774
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 2: the most part, these games have been awesome, and just

1775
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: be curious for any closing thoughts on Game four, which

1776
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: of course finished up about twenty four hours ago.

1777
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, look, I mean the Thunder escape. They it

1778
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 3: really probably should have been three to one on SGA

1779
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 3: just wouldn't let them lose down the stretch, and the

1780
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 3: Pacers made enough unfore starrs to go along with the

1781
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 3: whistle that were going against them as well late in

1782
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 3: the game. But I mean Mather have missed several free throws.

1783
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 3: They just they couldn't hit distance. They were really hot

1784
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 3: for three quarters and then they couldn't hit any threes.

1785
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 3: I mean, was that I sent you with like twenty

1786
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 3: five seconds left, the Thunder had two threes in the game. Yep, Yeah,

1787
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 3: they were like two for seventeen. It was awful. But

1788
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 3: they still end up winning that game they probably shouldn't have,

1789
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 3: And the Pacers, if they do lose the series, are

1790
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 3: going to look back on letting that ten to eleven

1791
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 3: point leads slip and say that's where we that's where

1792
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 3: we lost the finals. Right now, it's even it's on serve.

1793
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 3: They've just got to now break again. They're gonna have

1794
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 3: to win on the road. They didn't have to do

1795
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 3: that until Oklahoma City did what they did in Game four.

1796
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 3: But winning that is huge because now all they have

1797
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 3: to do is win in front of their home crowd.

1798
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 3: And if they can do that two more times and

1799
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 3: they're going to be champions. But yeah, it's been a

1800
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 3: good series, and I think both teams are geling well.

1801
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 3: They're kind of coming into their own. I think both

1802
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 3: teams are starting to play better back basketball. There. I

1803
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 3: think the aura surrounding the finals as you get a

1804
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 3: little deeper into it now, I think they're whatever the

1805
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 3: jitters are. They may have shifted a bit, they may

1806
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 3: have diminished a bit. I think the basketball has become

1807
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: a little bit more solid, and it's certainly become more

1808
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 3: dramatic this series. It's got the potential to be really

1809
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: really stellar if indeed it does go seven. And I mean,

1810
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: I'm a Thunder fan, but I don't feel particularly comfortable

1811
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 3: right now. I did feel like whoever won Game four

1812
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 3: really had the inside track to win the whole thing,

1813
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 3: but it's been so tight and the games have been

1814
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 3: so hard to determine ahead of time. What is going

1815
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 3: to happen? That this Indiana team has proven so many

1816
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 3: things and so many narratives incorrect during this playoff run,

1817
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 3: that there is no reason in the world why they

1818
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: couldn't win this series. I still am going to pick

1819
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 3: the Thunder to win, and I had originally picked them

1820
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: in five, and you know it could still be true

1821
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 3: in six, but it it does seem like it's destined

1822
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 3: for seven.

1823
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 2: Honestly, I know I keep teasing that we'll get to

1824
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 2: these Adamsilver comments, But let me ask you a question

1825
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking about today. Which team do you think

1826
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 2: it's more important to close out and actually win the title?

1827
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 2: Obviously neither team wants to lose an NBA Finals. That

1828
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 2: goes without saying, but I think you can make the

1829
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 2: argument for both teams. I mean, Okac is super young

1830
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 2: and super talented, but as you always say, windows don't

1831
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 2: really exist, right. You know, eventually, with the way the

1832
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 2: salary caps set up, they're gonna have to make some

1833
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 2: tough decisions, and they're just in the West, which is

1834
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 2: basically a meat grinder to get through. You know, I

1835
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 2: think the counter with the Pacers is, you know, really

1836
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 2: good organization. But you know, is this something that's maintainable

1837
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 2: year over year over year. Maybe it is, I don't know,

1838
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: But which team do you think it's more important to

1839
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 2: close this out and win a championship, knowing that getting

1840
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: to the finals and winning these things is really hard.

1841
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 3: I feel like the nucleus of the Thunder, the youth

1842
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 3: of those guys. Uh, the way their contracts are set

1843
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 3: up and the way the future kind of stacks for

1844
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 3: them is better. I think they're you know, they're gonna

1845
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 3: be there. They have the better chance to be there longer.

1846
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 3: I think the problem for the Pacers is things things

1847
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 3: did fall for them, well, like what they did to

1848
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 3: the Knicks. Notwithstanding, you know, Boston was supposed to be here.

1849
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 3: They were pinned in. They weren't even penciled in. They

1850
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 3: were pinned in by everybody, Tatum rips the acl Of course,

1851
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 3: Philadelphia turns out not to be what they were supposed

1852
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 3: to be. But there's a lot of stars in the East,

1853
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 3: Giannis and the Bucks and all of that. Like, we'll

1854
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 3: see what the future holds there. Maybe the East is

1855
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 3: going to open up a little bit more. But it

1856
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 3: feels like, and this is see, this is me going

1857
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 3: in the same direction that we were chastising others in

1858
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 3: the first hour. But it's like, it just seems like

1859
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 3: the Pacers' chances of getting back it just it feels

1860
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: like they're kind of like, how are they here? But

1861
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 3: we know how great they are, So maybe that's not

1862
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 3: even fair. Your point about the West is true. I mean,

1863
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: the West is absolutely loaded, but the thunder aren't going anywhere,

1864
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 3: and they already I mean, that's a sixty eight win

1865
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 3: team that we're talking about right now, a sixty eight

1866
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 3: and fourteen team in that very same West this year.

1867
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: And some of those teams are getting better, but some

1868
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 3: of them are getting older and maybe they're falling off

1869
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 3: a little bit more. So I think it's the Pacers

1870
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 3: because I think that it's harder to attract another free

1871
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 3: agent to Indiana, and Oklahoma City really doesn't necessarily need

1872
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 3: that other piece. Maybe Indiana doesn't either, It's tough. I

1873
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 3: think both of them need it because neither one of

1874
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 3: them can just guarantee that they're ever going to be

1875
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 3: in this position again and neither one of those franchise

1876
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 3: has ever tasted it.

1877
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: Okay, one more question, and this is kind of random,

1878
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 2: but I was thinking about this too. So if the

1879
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: Thunder don't end up winning it, you know, obviously, and

1880
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: we talked a lot in hour one about the idea

1881
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 2: of you know, people were calling this a quote unquote

1882
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: generational mismatch, and it was, you know whatever. And I

1883
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 2: think obviously part of it was Oklahoma City won sixty

1884
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 2: eight games in the regular season. That is obviously insane.

1885
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 2: The point we all know about the point differential records

1886
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 2: all that. But I was thinking about this today. Does

1887
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 2: having incredible regular seasons matter like it used to like

1888
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 2: and I'll give you a random example, right, but like

1889
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 2: it used to be in college sports, Like you know,

1890
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 2: if you had a number one high school recruiting class,

1891
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 2: it used to mean something. Now it's like, ah, you know,

1892
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: some people don't even recruit high school. They go portal whatever,

1893
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And so I bring it up because

1894
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to diminish what Oklahoma City did in

1895
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: the regular season. I don't want to make this sound

1896
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 2: like I'm saying that I don't think Indiana is a

1897
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 2: deserving champion if they win. But I was just thinking

1898
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 2: of like the barometer of winning sixty eight games in

1899
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 2: the regular season. As crazy as it sounds, I just

1900
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 2: don't feel like it really should be as much of

1901
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 2: an X factor in how we judge team Like. Dominant

1902
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 2: regular seasons to me, shouldn't matter as much as they

1903
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 2: did twenty five years ago because we know that a

1904
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 2: lot of these best teams, a lot of these good

1905
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: teams don't really take the regular season very seriously. I

1906
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: hope that point made sense. I hope it doesn't sound

1907
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: like I'm diminishing what Oklahoma City did, but I'm curious

1908
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Speaker 2: for your perspective.

1909
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, that's gonna be the case until it's not. Right.

1910
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 3: Cleveland just proved it only one seed with a great

1911
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 3: record and it didn't matter. The example I always think

1912
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 3: about is a Utah Jazz with that very same Donovan

1913
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 3: Mitchell a couple of years ago, was the number one

1914
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 3: seed in the West and got blown out fairly early

1915
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 3: in that playoff run. The NBA is known for a

1916
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 3: regular season that is not, you know, particularly important to

1917
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 3: those that play in that league for a while, and

1918
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 3: so you'll have a few teams that are real, try hard,

1919
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 3: and all their guys play and they dominate. Then they

1920
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 3: get to the play and they run into Golden State

1921
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 3: when they really care, or Lebron and his squad when

1922
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 3: they really care, or whatever it is, and then you

1923
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 3: kind of separate the week from the chaff, and yeah,

1924
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 3: the regular season then gets diminished. That's it. If the

1925
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 3: thundergo win a championship now and you think about what

1926
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 3: they've done on the road to get there, knocking out Minnesota,

1927
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: knocking out Denver in a grueling series, dominating their first

1928
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 3: round matchup, and all this, like, I think, then it matters.

1929
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: But until that point, I think there are more data

1930
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 3: points to back up your question being right than otherwise.

1931
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 3: That doesn't. But what happened before doesn't necessarily foretel what's

1932
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 3: gonna happen now. This Thunder team has passed every test,

1933
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 3: but a lot of these teams that have had these

1934
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 3: dominant regular seasons very much so throughout history, really it

1935
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 3: doesn't end up meaning that much because for them, it's

1936
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 3: like they won their championship because they cared all the

1937
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 3: way through a reg season, while a lot of the

1938
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 3: stars kind of coasted and waited for their moments sometime

1939
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 3: around March, and then kind of you know, started getting

1940
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 3: into real playing shape and were lathered up and ready

1941
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 3: to go by the time the playoffs started, and then

1942
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you realize, oh, yeah, they were good,

1943
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,799
Speaker 3: like you'll see like a team like Portland. For years,

1944
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 3: Dame would have them in the mix. They get to

1945
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs and he would keep them alive, but he

1946
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 3: had played so many minutes during the regular season he

1947
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 3: would almost always be banged up by the time that

1948
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 3: they got to the playoffs because he had to be

1949
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 3: that good the entire time for them to be in

1950
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 3: the position that they were, where some of these other

1951
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 3: teams didn't. So I think the question is one hundred

1952
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 3: thousand percent fair. You don't want to overrate what's happening

1953
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 3: in the regular season, but you don't want to completely

1954
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 3: eliminate it when what you're seeing clearly is something that's

1955
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 3: going to translate as opposed to something where you're taking

1956
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 3: advantage of kind of weakness on the other side.

1957
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Speaker 2: Makes total sense, and I'm glad the question the way

1958
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 2: that it was frame made sense is well, it was

1959
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 2: just something I was thinking about here on a Saturday

1960
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 2: while we were getting ready for Game five on Monday night,

1961
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 2: so we'll come back. We'll preview Game five coming up.

1962
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 2: But we do have to get to Adam Silver's comments

1963
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 2: this week, and I know Jay Mart's fired up by them,

1964
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 2: so we'll discuss that next before we do. Though. Final

1965
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 2: time this evening, Steve de Seger, what is trending?

1966
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 5: Hello again? Everything final? UFC Atlanta has just finished up

1967
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 5: with a victory for Kamari Uzman. Before that, Rose Namajunis

1968
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,919
Speaker 5: was a winner. We had no WNBA tonight or tomorrow.

1969
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 5: The NBA Finals continue Monday with Indiana at Oklahoma City,

1970
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 5: series tied at two, and then we'll have Game seven

1971
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 5: Thursday at Indiana. The Rockets reportedly gave center Steven Adams

1972
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 5: a three year extension. He would have become an unrestricted

1973
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 5: free agent. Caitlin Clark had missed the last five games

1974
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 5: with a string quad. She had twenty five points in

1975
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 5: the first half today. Indiana won one oh two eighty

1976
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 5: eight against New York, which had been nine to oh.

1977
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 5: Clark finished with thirty two points from three point range.

1978
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 5: She was seven of fourteen. Clark with NINAS seven turnovers.

1979
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 5: Minnesota is ten to one after ripping La one oh

1980
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 5: one seventy eight. Golden State won the night game at

1981
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 5: home over Seattle seventy six to seventy. Game five of

1982
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 5: the Stanley Cup Final to the Florida Panthers up three

1983
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 5: to nothing early third five to the final at Edmonton.

1984
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 5: Panthers lead the final three games to two, two goals

1985
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 5: for Brad Maar Shandy as six goals in the five

1986
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 5: games so far. In last year's final, Florida beat Edmonton

1987
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 5: in seven. The year before, Florida lost the final in

1988
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 5: five against Vegas. They could clinch game six in Florida

1989
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 5: on Tuesday. A Game seven of the series would be

1990
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 5: back at Edmonton on Friday. Still, no Canadian team has

1991
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 5: won the Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety three. Sam Burns

1992
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 5: leads the US Open by one stroke. Adam Scott is

1993
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 5: tied for second place at Oakmont, Pennsylvania Victor Hoveland three.

1994
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 5: Beck Rory McElroy shot a third round seventy four after

1995
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 5: barely making the cut. He's now ten over par. At

1996
01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 5: College Baseball's World Series, UCLA won its opener six Murray

1997
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 5: State Tonight. Number six seed LSU defeated number three Arkansas

1998
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 5: four to one. The UFL at its championship game in

1999
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 5: Saint Louis, DC beat Michigan fifty eight to thirty four.

2000
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 5: Daniel Suarez won NASCAR's Infinity Race in Mexico, his home country.

2001
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 5: Mexico's national soccer team was in La, opening the Gold

2002
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 5: Cup with a win three to two against the Dominican Republic.

2003
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 5: Attendance fifty four thousand. Again, the US hosts this tournament.

2004
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 5: In fact, Fox and FS one will have the game's

2005
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 5: first game for the Americans Sunday on Fox against Trinidad.

2006
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 5: Miami hosted the opener of the FIFA Club World Cup

2007
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 5: and played to a zero zero tie against an Egyptian

2008
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 5: side l Ali. Attendance was sixty thousand there at Dodgers Stadium.

2009
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 5: LA was up eleven tozing in the ninth against the

2010
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 5: Giants eleven to five. The final, sho Heeotani with a

2011
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 5: leadoff homer and later a solo shot, his twenty fifth

2012
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 5: of the year. That's career home run number two fifty

2013
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 5: for Otani in the Majors. Dodgers and Giants had been

2014
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,919
Speaker 5: tied for first in the NL West, but Clayton Kershaw

2015
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 5: dominated San Francisco again seven scoreless innings just three hits allowed,

2016
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 5: and he's now just twelve strikeouts away from three thousand

2017
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 5: for his career. Arizona scored five runs in the bottom

2018
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 5: of the ninth to beat the Padres eight to seven.

2019
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,799
Speaker 5: Beat closer Robert Suarez. Arizona's won five in a row.

2020
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 5: Padres now three back in the division. Seattle, with two

2021
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 5: in the bottom of the ninth, beat Cleveland and closer

2022
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 5: Emmanuel clauss A four to three. Boston was up four

2023
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 5: to nothing on the Yankees after six innings, four to three.

2024
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 5: The final, Atlanta down Colorado four to one. The Rockies

2025
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 5: have a record of thirteen and fifty seven, the worst

2026
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 5: overall record after seventy games since nineteen oh one. Road

2027
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 5: wins for the A's and Cardinals. Home wins for Houston

2028
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 5: and Baltimore. Texas in eleven beat the White Sox five

2029
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 5: to four. Tampa Bay beat the Mets again in New

2030
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 5: York eight to four. The Mets home record had been

2031
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 5: twenty seven and seven until this weekend series. Solo homer

2032
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 5: in the eighth at Philadelphia, Phils beat Toronto three to two,

2033
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 5: Cubs two to one. Over Pittsburgh. Cincinnati hit four home

2034
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 5: runs and won eleven to one. At Detroit and Miami

2035
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 5: sent Washington to a seven straight laws four to three.

2036
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger,

2037
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: have a great evening soon. You'll be back tomorrow with Okay,

2038
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 2: Arnie didn't give you the night off? Okay, good to no,

2039
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: good to nonob kick Fox Sports Radio Air Tours Jason

2040
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios, taking

2041
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 2: you up till two am Eastern. All right, I've been

2042
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: teasing these quotes for about a half an hour straight now,

2043
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 2: Adam Silver, Yeah, defending his his products. So we had

2044
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 2: the lowest rated Game one and the lowest rated Game two,

2045
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 2: los rated Game one. How about this los rated Game

2046
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 2: one of the Nielsen ratings era which dates back to

2047
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: like the nineteen eighties, outside of the two bubble seasons,

2048
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 2: which is twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. You know, stadiums

2049
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 2: were at half capacity. Game two was then low more

2050
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 2: rated than that. Well, Adam Silver had some defense things

2051
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 2: to say. He said, quote, it's an interesting time in

2052
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 2: our society. We have two markets. This part was kind

2053
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 2: of boring, but as a media matter, people compares to

2054
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 2: twenty years ago. But Games one and two so far

2055
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 2: are the highest rated programs in May and June so

2056
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 2: far on television. If something beats us, it's another sports program.

2057
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago, we often didn't win the night when

2058
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: the finals were on, but the absolute rating is lower then.

2059
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: And this was something we talked about last week, the

2060
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 2: criticism of the presentation. You know, we used to have

2061
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 2: these great decals, the Lari O'Brian Trophy. Adam Silver said, quote,

2062
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 2: I've seen some chatter on social media about on court decals.

2063
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 2: People don't realize they went away a decade ago because

2064
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: there were claims that Kendrick Perkins knows this. They were

2065
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 2: slippery better.

2066
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 3: That's what he said. By the way, you didn't just

2067
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 3: say Kendrick Perkins knows this. That's what he said on

2068
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 3: the broadcast. Kris Perkins was two seats away from him.

2069
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, and he said we're back to adding them virtually,

2070
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 2: so those are on. Uh what, I know you're fired

2071
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 2: up about the decals. So, by the way, I'll say this,

2072
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 2: Milika Andrews set up the question with you guys have

2073
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: awesome decals. I don't think they're awesome, but basically she said,

2074
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: you guys got details on the floor for the NBA

2075
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 2: Cup why not the NBA Finals? And again he said, quote,

2076
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,759
Speaker 2: I've seen some chatter on social media. People don't realize

2077
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 2: they went away a decade ago because they were slippery.

2078
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Over to you, Jason Adam Silver, are you buying the

2079
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 2: decal theory?

2080
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 3: Listen? I am so frustrated by this. I like, do

2081
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 3: not just lie to my face what you just said

2082
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 3: about what Malika Andrews said to set this up. It's right,

2083
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 3: there is tape. You can go to YouTube, you can

2084
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 3: google it, you can find photos. Guess what is dead

2085
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 3: center in the court during the IST this end season tournament.

2086
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 3: Guess what is just right there huge on these courts?

2087
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 3: The trophy, a logo of the trophy, A meaningless trash

2088
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 3: bag tournament, absolute garbage refuse matters not. You can tell

2089
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 3: me until you're blue in the face that this thing counts.

2090
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 3: It does not. No one is going to remember who

2091
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: the championship of the IST is. You are not the

2092
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 3: ist of anything. It does not matter. So the logos

2093
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 3: that are apparently like banana peels in Mario Kart in

2094
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals, are they better? Are they like magically

2095
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 3: safer during this garbage tournament that you're hosting that has

2096
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 3: nothing to do with crowning a champion of your sport.

2097
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 3: This like manufactured thing that you've created to try and

2098
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 3: drum up interest at the beginning of your season. You're

2099
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 3: gonna put the logos on those floors, but then you're

2100
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 3: gonna say on national television, I've hit those logos. Kendrick.

2101
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 3: You know this. They went away ten years ago because

2102
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 3: they were hurting people. So were they not hurting people?

2103
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 3: Can we use the logos from the nd season tournament,

2104
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 3: the ones that aren't hurting people, the ones that are

2105
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 3: one hundred percent safe? Can we use those in the

2106
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 3: NBA Finals so that your floor actually replicates something that

2107
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 3: looks somewhat special the way that it used to. Like,

2108
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 3: you can't tell me that it's dangerous when you did

2109
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 3: it in this whatever the crap that exhibition tournament is

2110
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 3: that you continue to run at the beginning of your season,

2111
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: because if it's not safe for the NBA Finals, then

2112
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 3: why on earth are you putting your meal tickets, your

2113
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 3: your millionaires, your players, your your assets. Why are you

2114
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 3: putting them at risk in something that doesn't matter? When

2115
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 3: you're trying to argue that you wouldn't do it in

2116
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 3: something that does like that fails every possible logical test

2117
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 3: known to man. Like Adam Silver has said a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff that you can criticize him for, but this

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Speaker 3: is just a blatant lie like this, This makes absolutely

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01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 3: no sense whatsoever. And the fact that Malika Andrews set

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01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 3: it up the way that she did, and then he

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01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 3: basically was just like, these are not the droid you

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01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 3: are looking for. That was like his response. And it's

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01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 3: just like, dude, like you're gonna have You're gonna have

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01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 3: to do better than that. Like you're going to have

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 3: to do better than that because we have eyes, and

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01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 3: we have cameras, and we have YouTube, and we have

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01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 3: Google and we have images, and we have videos and

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01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 3: tape and everything else under the sun that shows that

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01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 3: you were using logos in this n season tournament. But

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01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now everybody's slipping and falling. Like No,

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01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 3: Adam Silver absolutely not like say anything else other than

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01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 3: what I consider to be one of the dumbest responses

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01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 3: you possibly could have made, because it's just like it

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01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 3: takes all of one second for anyone with a brain

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01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 3: cell to say, wait a second, didn't she just say

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01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 3: that they were using these tournament logos back in like October,

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01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 3: and he said that they've been gone for ten years

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01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 3: in the NBA finals, So what was the rule that

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01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 3: brought them back in October? But they're still completely defective

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01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 3: and we cannot use them in June, Like it just

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01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 3: makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Really well stated. I will just add on the idea

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01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 2: that we shouldn't criticize the ratings because the NBA is

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01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 2: the highest rated thing on TV right now in May

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01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 2: and June, yes.

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01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 3: Real hot month for TV. By the way, they're adam,

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01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 3: like you're calling that out, Like that's that's when that's

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01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 3: when the networks really do premiere their best stuff. It's not.

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01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean TV has changed anyway, but like, make that

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01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 3: argument about September and October, don't make it in May.

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01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 3: The one thing to anybody that knows anything about TV

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01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 3: knows is that the shows that the networks expect to

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01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 3: fail premiere in February and March, and then the ones

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01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 3: that they know are going to fail are the summer

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01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 3: months shows. So let's make that argument when TV is

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01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 3: actually being watched and people are not outside touching grass.

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01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: And I'll say, very quickly, is that also part of it?

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01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 2: Is that literally, live sports events are the only thing

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01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 2: that people tune into. And if you want to argue that,

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Speaker 2: oh well, I mean it's we're still higher rted than

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01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 2: anything else on TV. Okay, cool. Women's NBA title game

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01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,719
Speaker 2: yukon South Carolina peaked at nine point nine million viewers.

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Speaker 2: That's more than Game one or Game two of the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals. The College Basketball Semifinals fifteen point five million viewers,

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01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 2: basically twice what Adam Silver in the NBA got in

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01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 2: Game one, Game two of the NBA Finals. Oh, by

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01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 2: the way, the title game between Florida and Houston eighteen

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Speaker 2: point one million viewers. So yeah, congrats on being the

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Speaker 2: highest rated thing in May when nobody's watching TV. It's

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 2: because you're live sports and you are still falling well

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01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 2: behind most other live sports. Fox Radio Aertors will come back,

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01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 2: Aertors and Jason Martin, I should say, come back, wrap

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01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: the show as critical as we bet of Adam Silver.

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01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 2: We have enjoyed the first four games of these finals,

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 2: and we will preview game five. That's next. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio. Aer Tors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live for the Fox Sports Radio Studios eleven minutes

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Speaker 2: from now. Bernie Fretto will follow us. Stay tuned for

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01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 2: Bernie at two a m. Eastern. By the way, a

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Speaker 2: couple things one, make sure to download the podcast as

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01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 2: soon as we get off air. The podcast will be

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01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 2: going up. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2184
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 2: your podcasts and leave a five star rating and review

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Speaker 2: to help us out Again. The show will be on

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01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 2: shortly after we get off air. Lastly, Happy Father's Day

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01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: on the East Coast in the Midwest time zone and

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01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 2: or Central time zone. There's no Midwest time zone and

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01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 2: a Happy Father's Day to you. Jayson Martin. Hope you

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01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: guys have something fun planned for tomorrow.

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01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 3: They've got it plan. We'll see. My wife can tell

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01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 3: me that my gift was in stages and so it's

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01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 3: not all going to be ready on Sunday, but like

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01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 3: part of it has arrived. I have no idea what

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01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 3: all that means, but that's exciting. It's kind of a

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01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 3: US Open final round, which usually happens on Father's Day.

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm certainly excited about that. See who comes out of

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01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 3: Oakmont with the victory first Father's Day without Dad. So

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be Its just gonna be an interesting day.

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01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 3: But you know, two lovely daughters and can't really complain

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01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 3: about where I find myself in life right now. So

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01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm I feel like Happy Father's Day is just a

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01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 3: way to be around them and kind of feel blessed

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01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 3: by them. So I feel like that's I'm looking forward

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01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 3: to that once we wake up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, Happy Father's Day to you. Happy Father's Day

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01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: of my dad. He actually had a little bit of

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01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 2: a health scare the last couple of weeks. He's doing

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Speaker 2: good now. He definitely is not listening. He's not a

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01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 2: sports fan and a ready to tell me that. Yeah,

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01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 2: I love what you do, but you know it doesn't

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01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 2: really listen. So anyway, Happy Father's Day to him, love him,

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01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 2: and you know, Happy Father's Day to you as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's wrap the show. You mentioned us open onside it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, feels like the leaderboard is lacking a

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01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, do you want to give people

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01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 2: that haven't been maybe necessarily paying as much attention since

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 2: it is one of the four majors, we haven't discussed

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01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: it at all. Today. You sent us a clip of

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01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Rory McElroy, who's going back and forth the media. That

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Speaker 2: feels like the most interesting narrative out of that out

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01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 2: of that tournament. But tell us for people who haven't

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01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 2: been paying attention to what they need to know going

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01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 2: into the final round of the US Open on some

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: not a.

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Speaker 3: Lot, I mean, the star of most of a lot

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Speaker 3: of US Opens turns out to be the course. And

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01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 3: Oakman is one of the all time toughest. We know

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01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 3: this historically, and so this is kind of this is

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Speaker 3: a tournament where this kind of thing happens more than

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01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 3: any other, because even the best get completely flummoxed. You

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01:56:55,560 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 3: see the plus tens for the Bryson Deshambeaus, and Gottie

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01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 3: Scheffler is struggling, and Rory McElroy is struggling, and all

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Speaker 3: these guys that you have all of this hardware, they

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01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 3: look like us when they play these courses. And so

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01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 3: it can be anybody that just for whatever reason gets

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01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,839
Speaker 3: hot that weekend and can win. I mean, that's always

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01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 3: the story of golf, but it tends to be more

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01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 3: the story at the US Open. So keep your eye

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Speaker 3: on Adam Scott. You know he's been nibbling around the

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01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 3: top for several tournaments over the last couple of years.

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01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 3: So you look at him right now, right there, pretty close,

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01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 3: he could potentially be your winner tomorrow. But it's also

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 3: possible somebody goes out there and has like a three

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01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 3: four under round, nobody else above him, plays well, and

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01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 3: he finds his way there. So that's always the fun

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01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 3: thing about it is somebody goes out there and shoots

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01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 3: like a sixty eight that can actually put them in

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Speaker 3: position to win the entire tournament. So that's one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why it's one of my favorite sporting events

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01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 3: without question every year is because the course just new

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01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:02,960
Speaker 3: so much. And it's one of the reasons why you

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01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 3: can point to Tiger's dominance is because when he won

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01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 3: at Pebble Beach and when he won at Bethpage Black,

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Speaker 3: and when he won you know, US Opens, he did

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Speaker 3: it in such a dominating fashion that it's just it's

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01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be done that way at the US Open.

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01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 3: US Open is always a tournament should be like minus

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01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 3: two and minus one, like Payne Stewart won at I

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01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 3: think at plus one at Pinehurst, for example, So it

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01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 3: should be fun. It always is. Sunday is gonna be uh,

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01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 3: it's gonna be close. I don't know that. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that you can pick a winner right now.

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Speaker 2: Really quickly. Game five, NBA Finals, two games apiece. I'll

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01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: say this because I don't know. I don't think the

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01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 2: series will be over by the time next next Saturday.

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01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: I think Indian's winning the series. I'll just say it

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01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 2: right now. OKC is favored to win Game five. They're

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01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 2: actually a nine and a half point favorite. What do

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01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 2: you expect from Game five?

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Speaker 3: I think I think Indiana is going to feel the

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01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 3: effects of blowing Game four. I think they're gonna feel

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01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 3: like they should have won it, and I think that's

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01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 3: why Olcahoma City will win that game and win the series.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta get out of here. I want

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Speaker 2: to thank the crew of Mary Mack, producer brief, Steve

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Speaker 2: the Sager from a partner, Jason Martin, I'm mere, Torres.

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Speaker 2: Make sure to download the podcast coming on next Bernie

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01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 2: Fredo of The Bertie Fredder Show. This is Fox Sports

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