1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ope, you had a great weekend. Everybody gangs 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: here ready to go on this Monday. You can be 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: part of the festivities. You can dial us up, email, 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: tweet all the above, best and worse to the weekend. 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: What you saw that you liked, you didn't like, We 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: would give you hours a little bit later on pull question, 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: play of the day, stat of the day, all of 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: that forthcoming second morning to our streaming partner Peacock. 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He took off his helmet at 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: one point when he got in the end zone and 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: said I'm back, and he got a penalty on the play. 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: But that's not the point. You know, who knows if 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: he can produce at a high level, consistent level. But 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: you rough up the NFC leading Cardinals in Arizona, and 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: I know they didn't have Kyler Murray, but they didn't 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: have Kyler Murray when they went to San Francisco and 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: won the Panthers winning this one. They're now five and five. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: They're in the playoff picture just about everybody. There's probably 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: four or five teams who aren't in the playoff picture. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Right now. We'll see what Cam can do the rest 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: of this year. He's thirty two, only thirty two, but 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: maybe he's an older thirty two and the Panthers seem 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: to be open to anything at quarterback. They've already picked 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: up the second year with Sam Darnold and Sam is out. 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: But here's Cam who a week ago was watching football. 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: But to see him suit up and then next opponent 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be his former coach Ron Rivera and 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the Washington football team, all of a sudden, the Panthers 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: had become a whole more interesting. That's one of those 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: scores where I'm not watching the game and then you 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: see the score and you go, I'm going to watch 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: the game now, just because I was curious how Cam 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: was going to look. But Arizona getting blown out by 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Carolina pretty amazing. There's usually, as I say, every week, 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: two or three games where you go, how is that possible? 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: Washington beating Tampa Bay did not surprise me. I said 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: last week. Eventually Washington will play a really good game, 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and they did. Tampa didn't play a good game at all, 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: but Washington played well. Now they may lose Chase Young 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year and they're not a 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: good team. But Carolina winning in Arizona that wouldn't surprise 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: to me. Let's pull question. We're going with McLevin. Okay, 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: as always, we're going to start very negative and do 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: worst loss of the weekend. You've already mentioned maybe a couple, 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: but we'll chartoot College Texas losing to Kansas, Oklahoma losing 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: to Baylor. The Bucks lost to Washington football team. The 65 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Chargers lost to the Vikings. I don't know if you 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: think that belongs on there. That's another one of those games. 67 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: The Vikings are one of those perplexing teams that I 68 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: watch and I go, I don't know if they're good 69 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: or not. And then the Chargers, I don't know if 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: they're any good or not because they're supposed to be. 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: The Vikings don't go away and they put a lot 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: of pressure on Justin Herbert. But you're watching Kirk Cousins 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: plays well on the roads. Back rating like five or 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: six consecutive games is over one hundred. He's really good 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: on the road. And it's not like you tune in 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: and go, I expect him to be good. We're almost 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: still surprised if he's good. But the Chargers like, do 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: you want to play with the big boys. You got 79 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: to win these games. So that one surprised me a 80 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: little bit. Who else the Browns. Yeah, that one surprised 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: me a lot. Is that more like a great win 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: for the Patriots or do you come away from that 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: being like, oh, the Browns are in some trouble both. 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are a playoff team. Said that 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, I thought they were 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: a ten win team, and they seemed to be figuring 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: it out a little bit here. But you know what 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: happened with Cleveland. I mean you just come on, you 89 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: go down the field, you have this unbelievable drive touchdown, 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: and you're thinking, okay, man, Browns looking good here, and 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: that was it. They were done. Baker got banged up. 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: But okay, I know it always comes back to Baker. 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Where is this vaunted defense. Where is one of the 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: top defenses. Oh my gosh, this is a great defense. 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: They were non existent. I mean Mac Jones has played 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: less than ten games. You're he looks like Brady out there, 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: like you gotta I gotta start with the defense looking 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: late because you don't have your two starting running backs. 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Baker is, you know, playing with a banged up shoulder. 100 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: But you know you didn't put any pressure on Mac Jones. 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: You hit him twice in the game that was it. 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: I mean, that's I don't know who's winning the North. 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: I guess the Ravens would be the favorites right now. 104 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: But you know, the Steelers tie the Lions without Ben Roethlisberger. Man, 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams where you go, man, like 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: the Packers with Jordan Love, the Steelers with Mason Rudolph, 107 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, man, maybe you don't want these 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: guys to leave anytime soon here. Yeah, McLevin, we've been 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: seeing Mason Rudolph lose games. Yeah. Yeah, They've got a 110 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: larger sample size in Pittsburgh than Green Bay does with 111 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. And even yesterday with Aaron Rodgers. He played okay, 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: but that defense defense is great without two of their starters. 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: And you know, granted it was Russ coming back from 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: the injury, but you shut them out. That's impressive. And 115 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: even what they did against Kansas City, because Kansas City 116 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: blew out the Raiders, but that defense did shut down 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes even though they lost that game. That's what's 118 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of scary here because if Green Bay is offensively 119 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: what we think they're going to be, and Aaron Jones 120 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: has not gone for the rest of the season, aj 121 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Dillon and yes, I raised my hand. I was one 122 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: of those people who said, why are you drafting another 123 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: running back and not a wide receiver? And AJ Dillon 124 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: remembered that because he said it after the game. He goes, yeah, 125 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: I heard, I remember, and he played well yesterday. And 126 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, they can run the football 127 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: and you saw that yesterday. They were able to do that. 128 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: But you know, if they have this top five defense 129 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: and you get some you know, a couple of these 130 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: players back by December, then that's what's dangerous about Green Bay. 131 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: You always expect an offense. It's like Kansas City. You 132 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: saw the offense, but can they play? Can they be 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a consistent defensive team as well? And they blew out 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders. The Raiders are who we thought they were. 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean every year you're like, man, I don't know 136 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders, Derek Carr, MVP Candid, I'm like, they're the Raiders. 137 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Like this happens every single year. Yahn Seaton brought up 138 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: an interesting point on Seahawks Packers. Should Russell Wilson had 139 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: been out there, especially if it was cold and snowy. 140 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: I was surprised with their down seventeen in a minute 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: to go, and he's still out there trying to score 142 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown. I just don't I don't need him out there. 143 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Take him out. But you know he wanted to be there. 144 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: He wanted to go against Rogers. He played his college 145 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: ball at Wisconsin. You know this was a big deal 146 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: for him to be able to be ready for this game. 147 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: They should be like you always you look at this 148 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: and you go, okay, they got they got some weapons here. 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: But for some reason, it just never feels like it's 150 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: fluid where you go, Okay, there's a couple of good 151 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: plays and then three and out, or there's a couple 152 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: of goods. Oh, there's a big play and then it's 153 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: three and out. You know you got three wins. Right 154 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: now there's three and six. It goes back to what 155 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: I said at the start of the year, not even 156 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: knowing what was going to happen with Seattle. I think 157 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: this is the last year of russ in Seattle. And 158 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs, which it doesn't look 159 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: like they're going to, then what are you going to do? 160 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, you you don't even have your first round 161 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: draft pick. You gave that to the Jets for Jamal 162 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Adams that you know, this is feels like there's a 163 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: couple of teams that will be moving on from their quarterbacks. 164 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: And it might be Green Bay, it might be Seattle, Pittsburgh. 165 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's a few of them in there. And 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: does Cam Newton all of a sudden become Carolina's starting 167 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: quarterback next season? That's what I'd be curious about, because 168 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: you already paid Sam Darnold, you gave up draft pick. 169 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: You know they're paying. I think it's like sixty million 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: dollars trying to find Cam's replacement and draft picks that 171 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: they gave up. I know David Tepper is worth fifteen 172 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: billion dollars. You know his his net worth is fifteen billion. 173 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you want to be spending 174 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, a billion on trying to get your cornerback 175 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: here and they're going to be on the Deshaun Watson 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: sweepstakes as well. Think it's that's a mess. And you know, 177 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, I never would assign him into the second year, 178 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: second contract there. When he's in, you know, it's great 179 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: to have him in, but there's no guarantee he's going 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: to be able to play be consistent. This program is 181 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by the great folks that simply Save 182 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: home Security, giving you my listeners fifty percent off their 183 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: award winning home security Learn more get fifty percent off 184 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: your new system. Is it simply safetan dot Com? Any 185 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: other pole questions aside from you know, the Texas game. 186 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I started watching later in the second half, and I thought, 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, how is this possible? Like Kansas is 188 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: always terrible, although I think they have a head coach 189 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: who probably won't be long for Kansas. He was at 190 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Whitewater, I think he was in the MAC and 191 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: he goes there to Kansas and I apologize, I don't 192 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: know his name, but he won't be at Kansas, I 193 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: don't think for a long period of time, because somebody 194 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: will hire him and give him a raise. Yeah, I'm 195 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: club Lance Leaphold Leaphold. Yeah, Okay, but he's got success 196 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: and it seems like they do respond to him. And 197 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: then that's a huge win. Huge With Oklahoma, I'm not 198 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: surprised they lost a Baylor. I mean, Baylor's the top 199 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: fifteen team. They're playing in Waco, but that's a devastating 200 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: loss when it comes to hey, if they go undefeated, 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: they're getting yeah, they yeah, but they they're not going undefeated. Um, 202 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: who else do we have in there? Mclovin, Oh, definitely, uh, 203 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: the Browns, but the Bucks? Yeah? Or is that not? 204 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Does that one not bother you? Doesn't sound like that 205 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: loss really says anything. Be no, because you know once 206 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: they get everybody healthy, that that's going. You don't have 207 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Gronk and you don't have Antonio Brown. This is what 208 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: happened to this team last November. And Bruce Arians, I 209 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: think we have Bruce Arians. Some sound from Bruce the 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Buccaneers coach. He wasn't happy obviously after the game, energy 211 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: and passion, very effecticent. The penalties. They gotta get caught sooner. 212 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: The first play of the game, we're shifting. Then we 213 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: jump off sides and they don't even run a player. 214 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: We jump off side. That's just the stupidity. Has to 215 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: go away. We're gonna go anywhere, okay. But he didn't say, hey, 216 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I take the blame like he You know, we've been 217 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: seeing coaches who say that, Yeah, Paul, we had a 218 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: big I take the blame. Arthur Smith Artie Smith of 219 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Yeah, this one's on me. He said, we 220 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: were totally unprepared, and that's on me and the coaching staff. 221 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: The follow up question is not when did you realize 222 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: you're unprepared, which I'm hoping somebody like it was a 223 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: pregame during the anthem. Maybe no, Thursday, I knew we 224 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: were going to be unprepared for this game. We shouldn't 225 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: have gone on the flight to Dallas. Here. By the way, 226 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: the people who do send me Jimmy Jimmerson clips, thank you, 227 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: but you don't have to keep sending me Jimmy Jimmerson 228 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: clips that this person said this, And there was an 229 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: analyst who said, and I don't want to say the 230 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: team because then you'll probably know who said it, but 231 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: they said this defense is going to give you everything 232 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: they can. And I thought if the quote was this 233 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: defense won't give you everything they can, then that would 234 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: have been you know something interesting, This defense tries when 235 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: they want to, like, but you know, you don't realize, 236 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: like you feel like you got to fill up all 237 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: the all the space all the time in a broadcast 238 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: or pregame and some change you just say something. You 239 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: go why somebody said this to me yesterday, Hey, on 240 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: the coin toss, why don't you take downhill instead of 241 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: the ball? You know, because we always say, oh, that 242 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: team runs downhill, and they're like, why don't you just say, yeah, 243 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: we won the toss, we want downhill. Seems like that'd 244 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: be a real advantage for a team. Yeah, and if 245 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: there's a stadium where it actually tilts, or one side 246 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: of the field it's higer than the other, I would 247 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: like to know. That seems like a violation. We're gonna 248 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: take downhill. Yes. Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach, yesterday 249 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: after their tie, said hey, we didn't win, but we 250 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't lose. Okay, it's factually factually true. That is factually correct. Yeah, 251 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: if you're a Lions fan, would you have rather lost 252 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the game than tied? Like, I don't know, it's I 253 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: felt bad because I do like Dan Campbell. I think 254 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: he I mean, he cares, he tries hard, gets emotional. 255 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is a friend of the show. But you 256 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: just watch and you go, there's somehow gonna lose in 257 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: heartbreaking fashion. They tied in heartbreaking fashion. Normally that doesn't 258 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: happen when you say we tied in heartbreaking fashion. Those 259 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: are your lines, Yeah, PAULI. Yeah, a lot of people 260 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: don't like a tie and think there should be a 261 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: system where it eliminates any chance with tie. But isn't 262 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: it fair because neither team deserved a victory? Yes, those 263 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: two teams didn't deserve a win in their column. Yeah. 264 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: Peter Kinning will join us and we'll talk to Carson 265 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Palmer a little bit later on Everything okay with the 266 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City chiefs Now? Is everything okay with Patrick Mahomes now? Probably? So. 267 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Probably won't hear much about that today as we have 268 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Thanks for listening to The 269 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Ask be sure to catch us 270 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six 271 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 272 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio 273 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 274 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or stream us 275 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Peter King Football Morning in 276 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: America Must Read column NBC Sports dot Com. Pete joins 277 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: us Now, Pete. The oddest game of the weekend was 278 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: turned in by who oh I would say the Cleveland Browns. 279 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: I was stunned at the relative incompetence of the Browns. 280 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we all love the Browns going into this year. 281 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who thought that they were going 282 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: to be lousy, and who knows. They might not be lousy, 283 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: but they're lousy right now and that really surprises me. Now, 284 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: some of that has to be due to Baker Mayfield's 285 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: physical health, I get it, but regardless that they've just 286 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: not been good. And I think you know, last night, 287 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: when I was just fiddling around a little bit, I 288 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: was looking at the standings, and the one thing about 289 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: the standings this morning that really surprises me. The Cleveland 290 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Browns have surrendered more points than they have scored. I 291 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: mean that just seems impossible to me. But hey, every 292 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: week in the NFL and Dan, look, you talk about predictions. 293 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: The one thing I will always remember about our time 294 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: together at NBC in that in that viewing room, when 295 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: we would sit together for years and watch the games 296 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: every Sunday, at about twelve fifty pm, you would come 297 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: out with your upset of the day, and I swear 298 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: you were right about seven out of every ten games. 299 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: It was uncanny. It was like a couple of weeks ago, 300 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: you would have said I like the Jets over the Bengals, 301 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: and we would have all said you're out of your 302 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: friggin mind, And yet you would have been right. Now. 303 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: You weren't right all the time. That's impossible, but that's 304 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: that is a little bit of a skill that you 305 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: have that not many people do. I just don't know 306 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: what to buy into now, because there's if these were stocks, 307 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: these teams were stocks. Are you buying into the Cowboys? 308 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: He's buying the Patriots. Oh, I'm definitely buying the Patriots. Now. 309 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: Am I buying the Patriots to play in February? No, 310 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean they might. I don't know whether they will 311 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: or they won't. But I'm buying the Patriots because I 312 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: think in recent weeks they have played so well defensively, 313 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: and they have a quarterback who week after week after week. Yeah. 314 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: I said this to somebody the other day on some 315 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: talk show or other, and I said, you know, he's 316 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: far in away the best rookie quarterback in football and 317 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: it's not even close. They say, well, wait a second, 318 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: you know he's on a better team than Trevor Lawrence 319 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: or Justin Fields. I said, I mean, would you have 320 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: said that on Labor Day weekend? Maybe part of the 321 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: reason he's on a better team is because he's better, 322 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: and you know, he's I think he's been terrific. But 323 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: if you look at what they have done defensively and 324 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: how many weapons they have on defense, Like I named 325 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger one of my defensive players of the Week 326 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: this week. But as I said in my thing, I 327 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: could name ten Patriots. So many guys are having an 328 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: impact on defense on this team. And you know, if 329 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: you look at the Patriots, it's another thing. They've outscored 330 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: the opposition by ninety eight points. Now, so I mean, 331 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: this is this is not any flukey thing. And you 332 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: know the other thing about the Patriots, I was not 333 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: a big fan of paying big money to Matthew Judon 334 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: because the Ravens usually know when to hold him, when 335 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: to fold them, and they usually fold them and they're 336 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: usually right. Matthew Judon is a force of nature. And 337 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: so I don't know, I think the Patriots are going 338 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: to be hard to eliminate this year. Yeah, I think 339 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: they're a playoff team. With what you saw with the 340 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs against the Raiders. Is that more about the Raiders 341 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: or more about the Chiefs. No, I think it was. 342 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a little bit of both. I 343 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: think that not necessarily on the field, but off the field, 344 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: there has to be some sort of impact with everything 345 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: that's happened to them. This is a franchise that's absolutely 346 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: totally adrift, and Derek Carr has played two games in 347 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: a row where you say, now, that's one of the 348 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: reasons why we don't call him a top ten quarterback. 349 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gone from being a legitimate guy who's 350 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: in the discussion for MVP to say, why did he 351 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: just throw that ball three feet over that guy's head? 352 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: And look, everybody has bad games, everybody has slumps. I 353 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: still think Derek Carter is pretty good, but I mean, 354 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: he's been bad the last two weeks, I think. But 355 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean I talked to Patrick Mahomes after the game 356 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: last night, and I came away feeling like that the absolute, 357 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: unequivocal best thing about Patrick Mahomes is that, you know, 358 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't think the sky is falling. And you know, 359 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: I asked him last night, Dan, I said, Hey, Patrick, 360 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: I said, have you ever thought in the last month, 361 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: when you probably know the outside world thinks you guys 362 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: are are you know, are bad and that it's over 363 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: and you have fallen to earth. Did you ever stare 364 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: at the ceiling and what's wrong with me? And he 365 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: goes no, I didn't pause end of answer. I mean, 366 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: you know. And so that's Isn't that what you want 367 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: in your quarterback. You want a quarterback who is introspective 368 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: and who says, hmmm, why isn't this working? Hey, Andy, 369 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: let's sit down and talk about why it isn't working. 370 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: And they did many times. You know what Andy Reid 371 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: told Patrick Mahomes this week before this game, Hey, listen, 372 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: take the check down if it's there, but be you. 373 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: And isn't that what you want in your coach? Don't 374 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: you want that trust and faith in your coach? And look, 375 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some rocky times that it'll be totally unnatural. 376 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: No quarterback who's ever played has had three years and 377 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: multiply that times times five, and that's your career for 378 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: the first three years. It can happen. But I think 379 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: he got everybody spoiled to that fact. But I thought 380 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: he was terrific last night. What did you make of 381 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: the Packers and Seattle game, Dan, in my opinion, I 382 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: thought that. I mean, as I wrote, I said, you know, 383 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: we played a half a season of games, and there's 384 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: few games, if any, that have made so many loud 385 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: statements as that game. Probably the loudest statement in that 386 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: game is that the Green Bay Packers do not need 387 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: vintage Aaron Rodgers to beat a good team. And I 388 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: still think Seattle is a good team. They're not a 389 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: great team, but they're a good team. And you know, 390 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: and look at what happened with Aj Dillon. Aj Dillon 391 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: basically was Jim Taylor in nineteen sixty five. You know, 392 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: for those of us of a certain age, well I 393 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: was only eight then, but you know, he was a 394 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: big back doing big back things, carrying Bobby Wagner into 395 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: the end zone. And then what else do you make 396 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: of it? I mean, you also make of it that 397 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: you really have to question, first of all, whether they 398 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: can respond this year and whether the Seahawks, in my opinion, 399 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: should think I'm not saying they should, but should they 400 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: think of trading Russell Wilson for three ones and a 401 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: good player in March? I mean, I think the automatic 402 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: answer is absolutely categorically not. You don't trade a great quarterback. 403 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: You don't do it well if he's going to be 404 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: really unhappy. And I'm not saying that he will be, 405 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that you shouldn't just dismiss it out 406 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: of hand. John Schneider found Russell Wilson with the seventy 407 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: seventh pick in the draft nine years ago, and I'm 408 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: sure he has faith in his ability to find another 409 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. I don't know if that'll happen, truly, 410 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: but that game said a lot of made a lot 411 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: of bold statements to me. He's Peter King. Football Morning 412 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: in America is the column to read NBC Sports dot Com. 413 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: How did how did this all play out with the 414 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: Rams getting OBJ And what role do you think he 415 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: plays tonight? I think he plays ten to twenty snaps. 416 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna play two one seventh round pick or receiver 417 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. I forget the guy's name, and they're 418 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: going to play another guy named JJ Koski. Uh. You know, 419 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: these guys are not household names in their own household, 420 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: and they're gonna play tonight. I think probably a lot 421 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: of snaps. I think the Rams and I think Sean 422 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: McVay is just a little bit concerned about force feeding 423 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: too much. It's like what Matt Rule told me after 424 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: the game they yesterday. They didn't decide what to do 425 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: with Cam Newton until the morning of the game. Okay, 426 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: are you comfortable if we put in these plays? You know, 427 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: there's only like three or four plays that they that 428 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: he had practice, that he had studied, that he knew 429 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: everything about. Are you comfortable, yeah, Okay, then then let's 430 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: have him have this in the game plan. And Newton 431 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: was perfect at him Obviously he's done those before. But 432 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: I think with Odell, I think he might play a 433 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: few snaps just to kind of get his feet wet. 434 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: But this I don't think Sean McVey wants to force 435 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: him in before he's fully ready to play. Then they 436 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: got the buy, and then I think he'll be ready 437 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: to be a full time participant when they come back 438 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: from the buy. How does this play out with John 439 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: Gruden suing the NFL? I mean, I doubt he'll win. 440 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Dan It just you know, this reminds me so much 441 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: of what Al Davis used to do with Pete Roselle, 442 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, the former Raiders owner, the former NFL commissioner. 443 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: Al Davis made it personal, John, and Gruden is going 444 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: to make it personal. As somebody who knows Gruden told 445 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: me over the weekend, why not. He's got nothing to lose. 446 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: He knows he's not working in the game again, so 447 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna lob model. It's off of cocktails at Park Avenue, 448 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: and he doesn't care who's hurt in the process. How 449 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: about him? He just woke up one day and all 450 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden he wasn't the coach of the Raiders anymore, 451 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: you know. And it reminds me of what George Young, 452 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: the general manager used to the Giants, used to say 453 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: when when we would talk to him about one controversy 454 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: or another, and he goes, I'm just over here picking 455 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: my nose and I get in trouble. Now, obviously Gruden 456 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: did something to cause that, So I'm not saying certainly 457 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: that he's blameless, but I think he just feels right now, Dan, 458 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: why not throw everything up against the league and see 459 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: if we can make something stick. But I continue to say, 460 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's it's senseless to think that the 461 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: league release these these emails. You know, somebody connected with 462 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: the league who knows I don't have any idea who 463 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: did it, honestly, but it doesn't strike me as logical 464 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: to think that they would release emails that would really 465 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: besmirched the reputation of their chief legal counsel, Jeff Pash, 466 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: who everybody in that in that office loves, so I 467 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: would be surprised if he would win the lawsuit. I 468 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: just has anybody come up with any logic that they 469 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: knew this in the summer, They knew these emails existed 470 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: with John Gruden, but they kept then they brought him 471 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: up during the season. But would they have brought them up? 472 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: Would they have brought them up if there wasn't noise 473 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: about them leaking? That's the question to answer. I think 474 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: it was a Thursday night when Andrew beat into the 475 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal called the Raiders. Might have been Wednesday, 476 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: I forget when it was exactly, and then by Monday 477 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: Gruden was gone. I'm just not sure that the NFL 478 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: would have released or would have you know, would have 479 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: sent those emails to the Raiders at that time. You know, 480 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: maybe they would have done it at another time, and 481 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: maybe you could argue that, hey, they should have gone 482 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: out and presented to Mark Davis all the evidence they 483 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: had in June and said what do you want to 484 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: do about this? And what he would have done? I 485 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: don't know, but that is a justifiable criticism on the NFL. 486 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, they basically let the email sit there and percolate, 487 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: and then somehow, some way they got in the hands 488 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: of the media and that's when all heck broke loose. 489 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that urban Meyer is okay. In Jacksonville. They 490 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: put up a good fight and he had a pretty 491 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: good month considering what happened prior to that. But Xonville 492 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: played the Colts, you know, they went toe to toe. 493 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: What do you make of the Jags moving on second 494 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: half of the season. Well, Dan, they've won two games 495 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: in the last among the last four, they're two and two. 496 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, they got beat up by Seattle and they 497 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: brought Indianapolis right to the end. I would doubt, sincerely 498 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: at all that Shad Khan, who has placed a lot 499 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: of faith in urban Meyer to fix this, that he's 500 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: having any thoughts of moving on. I'm sure that urban 501 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: Meyer barring something weird. And again I say barring something weird, 502 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: because with urban Meyer there might be something weird. There 503 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: has been something weird already so, but no, I don't 504 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: think he's in any danger as long as things continue 505 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: sort of the way they are. Pete. Always good to 506 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: talk to you. We appreciate your time as always. Thank you, buddy. Okay, Dan, 507 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: thank you. That's Peter King, Football Morning in America and 508 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: of course contributor to NBC Sports. Thanks for listening to 509 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 510 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 511 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 512 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 513 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's Ben, host of 514 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, along with my trustee 515 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: sidekick David Gascon. Would meet a lot to have you 516 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what 517 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: in God's name is the Fifth Hour. I'll tell you 518 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: it's a spin off of that Ben Maller show could 519 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if 520 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: you will a world will we chat with captains of 521 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: industry in media, sports and more. Every week Explorer some 522 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: amazing facts about a human nature and more. Let's sen 523 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: to the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the iHeartRadio app, 524 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. We bring 525 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: in Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback. Heispan Trophy winner. UNC. 526 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? What's what's the headline 527 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: here for you today? I get to pick the topic 528 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: and get the topic. Yes, Uh, let's talk about that 529 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: that shirt you got on What year did you purchase 530 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: that shirt? Um? It's actually one of those new shirts 531 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: that look old. I like it. I like it. Do 532 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: you have a stylist? Uh? No, oh no, no, just met. Yeah. Okay, 533 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: that's all I want to talk about. I don't really 534 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: have much else. All right, and nice to talk to 535 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: you again, Carson. We appreciate you joining us, Sarah, Um, 536 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: did you ever have anything like Russell Wilson had an 537 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: injury like that? I did? Um my second to last 538 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: year playing. We were in Philadelphia, We had the number 539 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: two seed pretty much wrapped up in the NFC, and 540 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: we were up on Philly Layton a game and I 541 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: went to throw a ball and it was a Sunday 542 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: night football game, and my this finger went up and 543 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: backwards and was stacked. This portion of my finger was 544 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: stacked back here. I dislocated ligaments or dislocated the knuckle 545 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: and the joint and toward ligaments did not require surgery. 546 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: Out it was we were about to start the playoffs 547 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: next week, so we just taped it up and went 548 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: from there. But it's hard to throw when your fingers 549 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: don't work. And watching Russell throw the other day, he 550 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: didn't have velocity, he didn't have the same whip on 551 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: the ball he normally has. He doesn't have the strength 552 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: in his hands. Back. That'll come That's not something that 553 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: he's lost forever. That'll come back. But it was hard 554 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: to watch him play. When you don't have the full 555 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: use of your throwing hand and you're throwing fingers. It 556 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: just makes for a long day like it was yesterday 557 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: in Green Bay for Russ. If they don't make the playoffs, Carson, 558 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: if you're Russ, what do you want? And if you're 559 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and the Seahawks, what do you want to do? Well? 560 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: If you're Pete, you want another shot and you want 561 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: to keep keep trying and keep going with Russ. If 562 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: you're Russ, you don't know what's what's going on in 563 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: Russ's head. Right now? We all all we know he 564 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: was unhappy last offseason. There was some talk about a trade, 565 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: there was some talk about more more control, more personnel decisions. 566 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: So we don't know what is going to transpire this offseason. 567 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: But obviously, if you're Pete, you want to continue to coach. 568 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he don't want to go and start over 569 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: and start his program somewhere else with a new team 570 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: and have to, you know, start from scratch again. He 571 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: wants to keep going. Russ, on the other hand, we 572 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: already know there was some unhappiness last year sitting at 573 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I think three and six. Right now, there's going to 574 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: be more unhappiness that that division got great right before 575 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: our eyes. I mean, you look at what the Rams 576 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: have done the last couple of weeks with OBJ, with 577 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: von Miller, you look at what's going on in Arizona. 578 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: Arizona's leading the division, and really now, for the first 579 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: time in Russ's career, he's sitting in third place in 580 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: the NFC West looking up at those two teams, and 581 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: that's a tough spot to see to see what he's 582 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: thinking right now. But we're going to know a lot 583 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: by the end of the season. Adam Schefter reporting an 584 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: MRI revealed that the Packers running back Aaron Jones says 585 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: a mild mcl sprain expected to be out one to 586 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: two weeks. I found what was interesting is the defense 587 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: with the Packers. You know, we always talk about Aaron 588 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers in the offense, but the defense actually looked good 589 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: against Kansas City the previous week. They might be a 590 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: top five defense. They don't even have you know, two 591 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: of their maybe they're two best defense who players here, 592 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: And I mean that's that might separate the Packers from 593 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: everybody else in the NFC. Your thoughts on Green Bay 594 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: as as a complete team. I need to see more 595 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: consistency out of the defense. I mean sometimes that defense, 596 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: like yesterday looks great against the sixty percent Russell Wilson 597 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: three weeks ago they looked terrible, and Kevin King mccorner 598 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: from the University what Washington has looked like he struggled 599 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: early on the year, and then yesterday he looks great 600 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: and makes an interception as making plays, you know, block 601 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: and knocking down passes. So it's just it's it's really 602 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: an inconsistency issue in Green Bay. I mean sometimes they 603 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: look great and they shut out you know, the Seahawks 604 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: for the first time in decades, and then other times 605 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: they look like they're running around with their heads cut 606 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: off and they're not getting pressure on the quarterback and 607 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: they're not covering down on the back end. So it's 608 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: just really consistency. We need to see it, you know, three, 609 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: four or five weeks in a row before we say 610 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: they're the most complete team in the NFC. Kansas City 611 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: feels like there's nothing to see. After they blow out 612 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: the Raiders and everybody is fine and back on the bandwagon. 613 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: Here should they beat should they have gotten off the bandwagon? 614 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: And should they be allowed back on the bandwagon? If 615 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: that's the case, cars, you can jump off the bandwagon 616 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: after three or four weeks, five weeks in a row 617 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: that we saw Kansas City really struggle. But when you 618 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: have Tyran Matthew on the back end of the defense, 619 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: when you have Patrick Mahomes on the front end, and 620 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and all the players they have, you know 621 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: they're always going to be a contender. For the first 622 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: time this season, we actually saw Patrick Mahomes not try 623 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: to just put the team on his shoulders and make 624 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: amazing throws and do something spect tacular every couple drives. 625 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: So the first time he just took what they gave him. 626 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: He was throwing the ball deep when he had the 627 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 1: opportunities and they were there, and then he was taking 628 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: the ball and checking it down. They stuck with the 629 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: run game. This is kind of the breakout game that 630 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: we've all been waiting for in Kansas City. We've been 631 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: waiting for them just to jump out and pound somebody. Now, 632 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: the fact that they did it on national television against 633 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: a good Raiders football team inner division game, which those 634 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: games are always a fight, and to see them come 635 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: in and just absolutely dominate the game, it's like, finally, 636 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: and finally, the Kansas City fan base, we're back. Now, 637 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: we're ready. This is the time if you're a Kansas 638 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: City fan that you want to see this team start 639 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: putting it together and go on a run. How do 640 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: you go from your couch to the end zone? If 641 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 1: you're Cam Newton, Well, there aren't many built like Cam. 642 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean that that is a physical specimen. If anybody 643 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: can do it, it's him. Obviously, he gets in and 644 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: scores two early touchdowns on his first two touches. But 645 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: that's a different though, isn't it. Carson what he ran 646 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: when he was there before. So you got to come 647 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: in and sort of get acclimated up to speed terminology 648 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: in a couple of days. Yeah, I mean there were 649 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: some limited snaps for him. And really his specialty is 650 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: you get down inside the red zone, inside of ten 651 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: yard line, he's almost virtually impossible to stop. And so 652 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: I really like the dynamic that they have. They're really 653 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: good on defense. They're salty up front and the defensive front. 654 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: They can cover on the back end. With the addition 655 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: to Stephen Gilmore and and now if you can sprinkle 656 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: in some Cam on third and shorts down in the 657 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: red zone, use Sam Darnold, you know, be a little 658 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: bit unexpected defensively. You don't know when you're gonna get Cam, 659 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: sometimes on third down, sometimes on first and ten, and 660 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: then you know you got to deal with him in 661 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: the red zone. That's that for a defensive opponent's standpoint, 662 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: that is a nightmare to prepare for. That is a 663 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: ton of time on task sitting in meetings. That is 664 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: a ton of practice on the field, the speed auction, 665 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: all the different things you can do with Cam in 666 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: the backfield. I really like the dynamic to see how 667 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: this is going to work over the end of the season, 668 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: and I wonder, could he get to a total of 669 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns that would put him sort of on the 670 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: priphery of a Hall of Famer had the MVP went 671 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl, And I wonder, he's not gonna 672 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: have the passing numbers, but he's gonna What's he got? 673 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: How many rushing touchdowns? Mcloves he got like seventy three 674 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns? Paulie seventy one career rushing touchdown? All right, 675 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: could he get to let's say he gets to eighty 676 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: five or ninety rushing touchdowns. Barry Sanders had ninety nine. Now, 677 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: I know he had a lot of yards, but I 678 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: just wonder, could Cam be a Hall of Famer when 679 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: it's all done. I think the next five years they're 680 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: going to answer that question. If this is his last 681 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: stint in the NFL and this kind of fizzles out 682 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: in Carolina this year and Cam doesn't play in twenty 683 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, twenty five, maybe not. But Cam's 684 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: not done. I mean Cam looks excellent, he stays in shape. 685 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: We know how well he takes care of his body, 686 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: his diet, He's always talking about that kind of stuff, 687 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: so you know physically he's got some some tread left 688 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: on those tires. So if Cam continues to play into 689 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, absolutely, if this 690 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: is it and this kind of fizzles out and doesn't 691 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: work out in Carolina for a second time, we may 692 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: not see Cam on the field again. Carson Palmer, former 693 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback Heisman Trophy winner at USC ever had one 694 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: of those moments that Teddy Bridgewater had yesterday on the 695 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: interception where he made a business decision to not make 696 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: a tackle. I have not had any of those. I've 697 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: seen it time and time again. I mean at the 698 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, when when you're down and you're losing, 699 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: you throw a pick. I always felt like I had 700 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: to make the tackle because I felt so bad for 701 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: throwing it, and I felt so bad that my teammates 702 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: around me were trying so hard and trying to execute 703 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: and I made the mistake. We've seen some business decisions. 704 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, now that they're seventeen games, you know Teddy's 705 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,479 Speaker 1: Teddy's you know that they've been struggling. They've been losing 706 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: some game over the last month and a half, so 707 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: I can understand the business decision, but you just don't 708 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: want that caught on film because the eye and the 709 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: sky never lies, and the eye and the sky always 710 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,479 Speaker 1: catches business decisions, and unfortunately that one got caught on. Okay, 711 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: what's that going to be like when they go through 712 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: film session today? Yeah, I mean, that's that's one of 713 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: those ones where as you know, you're sitting in the 714 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: front row all quarterbacks typically sitting in the front row 715 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: of the meeting, and you just kind of slowly start 716 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: dipping as coach hits play and you kind of don't 717 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: want to everybody to look at you, but you know, 718 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: and you're in the auditorium, coaches in front of you, 719 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: all your teammates. You can just feel those eyeballs just 720 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: closing in on you as that's going on. You played 721 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: in a tie game right in Arizona. I did it. Yeah, 722 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: what's that feeling like? Well, if if you're O and eight, 723 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: it feels pretty damn good. It's just such an unknown 724 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: feeling if you're O and eight. We we did it 725 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: on I believe a Thursday night game against against Seattle 726 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: at home, and it's awful when when you're playing well 727 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: and you're in an inner division game like I was. 728 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: That wasn't inner division because it was Detroit from Pittsburgh. 729 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: But man, it's a long plane ride home. If if 730 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: you're Detroit and you're so close to your final win 731 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: and the kickers out there for the game winner and 732 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: everybody's putting their helmets up and getting ready to put 733 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: a hat on celebrate your first win, and then he 734 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: misses it and you tie. It's just so deflating. But 735 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: the flip side is at least you didn't lose, and 736 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: they were. They were oh and eight. Now they're eight 737 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: and one, so that's better than oh and nine. We 738 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: talked about cam getting incorporated into the offense on short notice. 739 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: How did the Rams Matthew Stafford bring ob j in 740 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: and how much do you expose him too with tonight's game. Well, 741 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a handful of or 742 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: packages at least a handful of plays. But I think 743 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: it's real simple. I mean, the playbook is this thick, 744 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: and it's got you know, one hundred and eighty plays 745 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: in it. OBJ, here's twelve. We need you to come 746 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: in on these twelve plays, and he could be absolutely, 747 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: decoy leroy. They could be actually designed plays where he's 748 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: the first or second read. But I absolutely expect to 749 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: see him as long as he's healthy, I expect him 750 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: to see on the field. You know. I just think 751 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: Sean is so smart, and I've heard OBJ is so 752 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: smart himself. So given him a simple package of you know, seven, eight, nine, 753 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: ten plays just to get his feet wet, maybe get 754 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands once or twice on the 755 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: screen on a simple curl route. I'm excited to see 756 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: him play, and I'd be shocked if he wasn't suited 757 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: up playing tonight. Okay, so you just called him a 758 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: decoy leroy. Decoy leroy, yeah, meaning that's that's the guy 759 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: that he knows. Every once in a while. Whatever position 760 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: you are, you are supposed to take a defender with 761 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: you or hopefully too. Maybe you're running a big deep 762 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: post route on the outside to clear out the middle 763 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,479 Speaker 1: of the field for the receiver on the opposite side 764 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: coming into that zone. So decoy leroy, there's just about 765 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 1: one guy that's decor Lee run every player in the NFL, 766 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: and you know you too, you know you're not getting 767 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, there's a ninety nine point nine 768 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: nine nine percent chance you're not getting the ball. If 769 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: it's a scramble drill and something happens in the pocket 770 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden all hell breaks loose. You 771 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: can try to find a way to get open, but 772 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: guys know when they're decor lee where they know when 773 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: they're clearing it out for somebody else and opening up 774 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: another player. Good to talk to you. As always, we 775 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: appreciate your time, Carson, Thanks for joining us. Thanks Danny,