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Speaker 5: It's a different look today, mixing things up as we
Speaker 5: go into the bye week. No, heck Ma Harrison, No,
Speaker 5: former Cowboys safety. No, we have Nate Newton, Black College
Speaker 5: Football Hall of Famer from Florida A and L. Three
Speaker 5: times Super Bowl champion, Everson Walls, Black College Hall of
Speaker 5: Famer Grambling University should be in the Cowboys Ring of Honors,
Speaker 5: should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I'm
Speaker 5: a preaching to you now, I'm a preaching to you
Speaker 5: the same way I did Drew Pearson. We're speaking of
Speaker 5: to existence. I'm gonna work for Drew, so I'm gonna
Speaker 5: keep on preaching.
Speaker 2: I gotta start crying. The baby.
Speaker 4: Start not laughing at that.
Speaker 2: We have that, by the way, he said, I should
Speaker 2: start crying. This ain't just for me. That's listen.
Speaker 5: The fourth and long national champion in North Carolina. He
Speaker 5: is Jesse Holly in the house three former Cowboy players.
Speaker 4: I merely knew.
Speaker 5: He struts all right, guys, as former players, what do
Speaker 5: you do during the bye week after you got smoked
Speaker 5: like that at home? Jesse starts, Oh, you get away
Speaker 5: from football? Honestly, like I know, it's it doesn't It
Speaker 5: does not what people want to hear. Right, you don't
Speaker 5: want to hear. What do you mean you get away
Speaker 5: from football? You got your tail whooped and all that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. You get one of these things, you
Speaker 5: get one by during the season. And I will say
Speaker 5: this on the player's behalf.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: You're upset.
Speaker 5: I get the fans are mad or pissed off or frustrated.
Speaker 5: You don't spend more time in this football building, even
Speaker 5: though it may feel like they don't spend no time here.
Speaker 5: You don't spend more time here than they do. You
Speaker 5: don't put in the rigorous work that they put in.
Speaker 5: You don't have the bumps and bruises, you don't have
Speaker 5: all these things mentally, physically, emotionally.
Speaker 3: Take the records away. I get it, I understand it.
Speaker 5: This buy is for you to get away and try
Speaker 5: to reset, whatever that reset may look like some may
Speaker 5: go to Cabo, some may stay at the crib, some
Speaker 5: may go see mommy and daddy, some may get some
Speaker 5: may just go somewhere and get filthy.
Speaker 2: Nasty, some might just be in their bedroom just in bed.
Speaker 5: And some may be ice and absolutely, but I do
Speaker 5: think that we have to kind of just understand that
Speaker 5: this is a moment of time for you to just.
Speaker 3: Take a small breakaway from the game.
Speaker 5: You can self evaluate, but then come back and try
Speaker 5: to fix the ailments that you had. But so if
Speaker 5: you see people at the movies, at the mall or whatever,
Speaker 5: it'll be like, what the hell?
Speaker 3: Even the late night club but they don't.
Speaker 2: Have particular club.
Speaker 3: Clothes on.
Speaker 5: Just just let them throw their dollars in piece and
Speaker 5: just say, hey, we see you guys next week.
Speaker 6: I think it's just tough to go into a bye
Speaker 6: week with an ass whipping like that.
Speaker 2: That's the tough part to me.
Speaker 6: You know, because you got to hear about it all week,
Speaker 6: You got to hear about there next week. You know,
Speaker 6: that's the tough part to You want to go into
Speaker 6: a bye week to me with the feel good you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, But they don't have that right now.
Speaker 6: You know I'm not gonna lie to you, and I'm
Speaker 6: never one of those guys to talk about how you
Speaker 6: know the man wants to come down on you. But
Speaker 6: if I was dumb, man, I would have been in
Speaker 6: that locker room cussing somebody out.
Speaker 2: This is my birthday, man, it's my birthday.
Speaker 6: Bro y'all come in here and get whooped on my
Speaker 6: birthday like this.
Speaker 3: You know, behind my.
Speaker 2: Child, my kids play.
Speaker 6: The way he was, the way he treated that reporter,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, the way he treated people period.
Speaker 2: When he goes through.
Speaker 6: I would come straight to that locker room and I
Speaker 6: would hope the coach was in there, and I would
Speaker 6: talk to everybody at once and say, man, y'all are
Speaker 6: pissing me off. I mean, we lost, okay, we lost
Speaker 6: on my birthday. Okay, we lost at home, okay, but
Speaker 6: we got blasted after the performance that we had in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 6: regardless of what you think about Pittsburgh. To be able
Speaker 6: to go in there and have that kind of attitude
Speaker 6: that they had in Pittsburgh and then to come back
Speaker 6: here and play as if you're on the road man, man,
Speaker 6: I would be.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that.
Speaker 6: He didn't go in there and threatening everybody, including the head.
Speaker 7: Coach mm hm.
Speaker 8: He asked about how how would the player feel, and
Speaker 8: I guess that's how you feel about the pleasure.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: You know me, I take up for the Cowboys all
Speaker 6: the time, and we do my Homer, that's just the way.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of that. I wore that damn start.
Speaker 6: Okay, So when I watched the game, you know I
Speaker 6: have we have vested interest in it. I'm not just covering,
Speaker 6: no disrespect to the media, not just covering it. That's
Speaker 6: our blood right. And so for that to happen, you know,
Speaker 6: you can't just sit back and say, oh that stephen
Speaker 6: A is so funny, all that kind of crap.
Speaker 2: You know you are.
Speaker 6: Upset because you've been there before. You know that the
Speaker 6: guys are not playing well. You know that not putting
Speaker 6: it all into it because I've been there before.
Speaker 8: The way I feel is this here each player individually.
Speaker 8: You know, some guys deserve to do what Jesse saying,
Speaker 8: some guys deserve to be blessed. I asked to live
Speaker 8: it like everything. But each player has to find his point.
Speaker 8: Some players should be over there working out, some players
Speaker 8: should be taking trips. You know, Dak, go take a trip.
Speaker 8: You've been beat to death. Go take a trip, my
Speaker 8: left tackle. You need to be out there on the field. Guy,
Speaker 8: you need to be out there on the field.
Speaker 7: Mazie.
Speaker 8: You need to be running into something. If it's a wall,
Speaker 8: it don't jump a truck.
Speaker 7: You need to be running into something.
Speaker 8: So each player has to kind of find out a yeah,
Speaker 8: because brother, he got to move something.
Speaker 4: He ain't moving the folks.
Speaker 7: But anyway, but you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Each player had Like I remember when I was playing
Speaker 8: some one or two days that we had off only
Speaker 8: I think once I went on a trip. The other
Speaker 8: times I stayed back because I knew me I couldn't
Speaker 8: go out. I want that guy that could go to
Speaker 8: a club because I was gonna drink too much. I
Speaker 8: want that guy that could, uh, you know, go to
Speaker 8: a family out and during that time, because I was
Speaker 8: gonna eat too much, you're gonna yeah. So I stayed
Speaker 8: here a lot of times and worked out and worked
Speaker 8: on my craft because the NFC East when we played
Speaker 8: was not playing and I had to be I had
Speaker 8: to be correct. So each player find your niche. Some
Speaker 8: of y'all travel, some of y'all stay home. Some of
Speaker 8: y'all need to work out. Some of y'all, yeah, the
Speaker 8: ones that need to work out.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: The funny part about what you say, I don't believe.
Speaker 5: I don't believe the one that should be here doing
Speaker 5: that know that they should be here doing that. I
Speaker 5: think this new generation looks at things in a different lens.
Speaker 5: I think guys look at themselves sometimes and don't have
Speaker 5: that true self evaluation, like we talk about it on
Speaker 5: our show a lot of times, like we need to
Speaker 5: bring back public shaming, at least.
Speaker 3: In the locker room.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, no, no no, but hear me out. I
Speaker 5: don't say bullying, but you couldn't let me ask you
Speaker 5: this question. Let me ask you this question, m.
Speaker 3: Cup.
Speaker 5: If you turned down tackles the way that Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 5: turned down those tackles. No, no, no, see he laughing,
Speaker 5: he laughing, And I'm trying to be serious.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Cubby.
Speaker 5: If you turned down those tackles the way that Trayvon
Speaker 5: Diggs turned down those tackles, could you go back in
Speaker 5: that locker room like everything was okay and nobody said
Speaker 5: nothing to you.
Speaker 2: No, I could not. They would not allow me to.
Speaker 5: That would have been some locker room public shaming. They
Speaker 5: would have been in there, look at this liberty bleep.
Speaker 5: You sorry, when you went in there and watched that
Speaker 5: film on Monday.
Speaker 2: You would have heard it. They don't do that.
Speaker 3: They're not like that's able to happen.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you how would win coach Landry.
Speaker 8: Coach Landry would have had a red marker, a light
Speaker 8: on you saying, son, right here, he's not gonna tell
Speaker 8: you that you missed the tack. He gonna right here,
Speaker 8: We're gonna come, squad shoulders, We're gonna keep outside. He
Speaker 8: gonna coach you through this old in front of seventy folks.
Speaker 8: He gonna coach and then we walk out of the
Speaker 8: locker room. You know what I'm gonna say, like for.
Speaker 7: Real, walls, not once come walls.
Speaker 8: You're gonna hit this dude won't fall out of bed
Speaker 8: and hit somebody.
Speaker 7: You know, I'll be on them so hard. But that
Speaker 7: ain't that ain't how we do it right.
Speaker 5: And so like I said that, I don't believe what
Speaker 5: not that you say. I don't believe that there's enough
Speaker 5: players in this locker room who look at themselves.
Speaker 4: And go, well, I need to get better.
Speaker 3: They look at them like whatever, Well, I.
Speaker 2: Tell you what I learned a lot. Listen, just back
Speaker 2: back to then go ahead.
Speaker 5: So after the game, he walks out of the locker room,
Speaker 5: doesn't speak to the media or anybody.
Speaker 4: How does that go over you, guys?
Speaker 5: When you see a player have a performance like that,
Speaker 5: they leave the room, which means you're still in the room.
Speaker 7: It's come to you, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Ain't that something. I'm right next to the gun to
Speaker 6: the locker, but I get all the heat. Yeah. I
Speaker 6: hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like that, that that goes along with the public shaming
Speaker 5: me because you should go hey, hey bro, no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: you go out there and you tell them because I
Speaker 5: don't want to ask these I don't want to ask
Speaker 5: these questions this week.
Speaker 3: Thisay, I ain't doing it.
Speaker 5: You did it, so you got to go out there.
Speaker 5: But again, that's not the that's not the way that
Speaker 5: they operate now. They operate now where everybody's cool. Now
Speaker 5: they're like, hey, dog, so you know we know that
Speaker 5: you turn down these tackles, but are you trying to
Speaker 5: get on the game later on, right, Hey, you're trying
Speaker 5: to get some of this reposodo, some of the you know,
Speaker 5: some of the Don Julio, and everything is okay, and
Speaker 5: I want accountability.
Speaker 6: I recall this happened in New York the year after
Speaker 6: we won the Super Bowl. Then my second year there,
Speaker 6: all the coaches were gone, plus my New York check yeah,
Speaker 6: giant talking about the Giants, and I remember our cornerback,
Speaker 6: our right, our left cornerback, Mark Collins, hell of a player.
Speaker 6: For some reason, he was starting off that year bad.
Speaker 6: I don't know why he was starting their year off bad,
Speaker 6: but that's just the way it was.
Speaker 2: He he knew he was playing badly.
Speaker 6: He gave up a big play to a wide receiver
Speaker 6: with Chicago in the second game. He came in there,
Speaker 6: he was so upset and looking at the video, he
Speaker 6: walked out. He walked out on the entire team. But
Speaker 6: everybody knows Mark Collins. Everybody knows Mark Collins. He's not
Speaker 6: that guy that's gonna give up on anybody. So Mark
Speaker 6: Collins walks out, everybody forgives Mark Collins because they know
Speaker 6: Mark Collins is gonna come back in here on Wednesday,
Speaker 6: ready to give all he had, because that's all he
Speaker 6: ever gives.
Speaker 2: He just had a bad game. He was frustrated with his.
Speaker 6: Play, and he vowed to himself when he walked out
Speaker 6: of there, he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna do better. Now. If that's the way Diggs walked
Speaker 2: out of the locker room, then I could give him
Speaker 2: some love for that.
Speaker 6: If he if that's what's on his mind when he
Speaker 6: walked out of love, is he known to have the
Speaker 6: kind of courage to look at himself in the mirror
Speaker 6: as Mark Collins did. He came back that year nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety one and didn't make All Pro anything, but he
Speaker 6: came back and he played the best defensive back that
Speaker 6: the Giants had. And that's including the year that I
Speaker 6: had back in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: Now, so you know the player.
Speaker 5: Right, But my thing is, okay, if and we're talking
Speaker 5: about him specifically, but that comes now after the bye,
Speaker 5: what you did on the Sunday's game, ain't the first
Speaker 5: time you've done that this season, That's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: this ain't the first time you done turned down a
Speaker 5: few tackles in the season.
Speaker 6: And I give you we ain't targeted because of that,
Speaker 6: And I give you one of those.
Speaker 5: Right, I give you a little grace and a little
Speaker 5: mercy like the Lord above gives me from times. If
Speaker 5: it's Derrick Henry coming around the corner, right, if it's
Speaker 5: Larry Allen screaming around the corner on a pool block,
Speaker 5: and now it's you and him in the alley, I
Speaker 5: might give you a little bit of But come on, dog,
Speaker 5: like you can't just willingly turn down things like that
Speaker 5: and think that's just supposed to be okay when you're
Speaker 5: one right now, you're the best player that we have
Speaker 5: on defense, right like you get paid to be the
Speaker 5: best player that we want to we have on defense.
Speaker 5: And while we're reeling, we need someone to step up
Speaker 5: in this moment, like you just can't keep falling down
Speaker 5: when everything else is happening to us.
Speaker 2: We need you to be part of the solution.
Speaker 3: You gotta be a part of the solution.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 8: It's just it's too much of that happening when you
Speaker 8: have Okay, it's my turn, and it's yes, it turn,
Speaker 8: and it's ever since then it's yours. Now, you got
Speaker 8: a team full of mistakes, and that's all these guys
Speaker 8: are saying, is you gotta be responsible for your job,
Speaker 8: and these are this game. It's one of those games
Speaker 8: where each individual guy got to start taking care of
Speaker 8: his house. I'm serious. I ain't looking back at to
Speaker 8: see a walls on the outside of a cover too.
Speaker 7: Really don't care. I got the hole this dude up
Speaker 7: in front of me.
Speaker 5: But Nate, haven't We We said that after the New
Speaker 5: Orleans game, Yes, we set out the Baltimore game. Yes,
Speaker 5: And now we're saying it again. And that's the part
Speaker 5: where I'm talking about the culture of accountability, like, because
Speaker 5: there's two things that I say about that, and you're
Speaker 5: either coaching it or you're allowing it. That's the only way.
Speaker 5: That's the only way that these things that we continuously
Speaker 5: talk about keep happening. Y'all either coaching it or the
Speaker 5: leaders among this team, or and the coaches are allowing it.
Speaker 3: Because who who's gonna step in and say enough is enough?
Speaker 5: Who's gonna step in and say, damn it, guys, like
Speaker 5: enough is enough? And I get the money is a
Speaker 5: lot different, and that pays a huge contributing factor to
Speaker 5: it all. But at some point in time, and it
Speaker 5: all goes back to what you were saying. This is
Speaker 5: a look in the mirror moment, who's willing to say,
Speaker 5: like is Trayvon saying to himself, I can never let
Speaker 5: that happen again, because this is the third or fourth
Speaker 5: time we've seen this happen to you in the game
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I don't really know if they really
Speaker 5: leave here, and it's by we can go up there
Speaker 5: and say to themselves.
Speaker 6: If you're sitting there waiting on someone to tell you
Speaker 6: that you're not playing well, then you're blind. You need
Speaker 6: to know right away that you are not playing well
Speaker 6: as a as a man, just to yourself, that you're
Speaker 6: not playing well as a leader of this team. And
Speaker 6: if you can't see that, and you got everybody else
Speaker 6: talking about you around you, but no one's coming to
Speaker 6: you and taking you, telling you how they feel or
Speaker 6: how they think you look, then it's going to continue
Speaker 6: to happen. And that's that's what's going on right now.
Speaker 6: It's going to continue to happen to the best player
Speaker 6: on your defense. And I remember that same look Mark
Speaker 6: Collins walked out of the room, and when he came back,
Speaker 6: he was ready to play. Because Mark Collins only had
Speaker 6: that happen to him once.
Speaker 2: That was an.
Speaker 6: Operation for Mark Collins. I don't know if that's this
Speaker 6: is an operation for Diggs himself.
Speaker 5: When them back, I want you to each think of
Speaker 5: one player who you say, when they come back from
Speaker 5: the bye week, you need more from all right, everybody
Speaker 5: come up with their players. All right, Let you guys
Speaker 5: do it. I'm not gonna come up one. You guys
Speaker 5: all played. You guys know who you're looking at. Right now,
Speaker 5: I say I need more from you. We'll do that
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Speaker 5: trade news in the National Football League. Former Dallas Cowboy
Speaker 5: wide receive Amari Cooper.
Speaker 2: Right now, Coop is.
Speaker 5: Going from Cleveland to Buffalo. He goes from cold to cold.
Speaker 6: That's a nice move for a third round pick, and
Speaker 6: Buffalo's hot.
Speaker 5: DeVante Adams is leaving the Raiders and he's going to
Speaker 5: the New York Jets, and it's a third round pick.
Speaker 5: The Jets are giving up which could become a second
Speaker 5: round pick. So Aaron Rodgers gets some help. After he
Speaker 5: was throwing one of the receivers on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 6: The man was open. Sorry, man, the man was open.
Speaker 6: Just give me the ball, man, mister Hall many, let's go.
Speaker 4: Man pulled a Nino Brown.
Speaker 3: I'm going down here, a whole lot of people with
Speaker 3: the light brother right there.
Speaker 8: When you walk, man, when you got the ability to
Speaker 8: walk right past everybody in the organization, to the owners, say, man,
Speaker 8: ain't feeling this.
Speaker 7: This is what I need done. Start with your coach.
Speaker 7: I need magically happens.
Speaker 2: Number eight can do that, right.
Speaker 4: Is an eight ton magic of eight.
Speaker 5: So Cooper saved because he can now catch passes from
Speaker 5: Allen versus whatever Watson was throwing out there in Cleveland
Speaker 5: at you and the.
Speaker 2: Sabany can catch anybody's past.
Speaker 4: It helps if you got somebody a little bit better.
Speaker 5: And then Adams goes from whatever they were doing with
Speaker 5: the Raiders to to that there.
Speaker 4: So we'll see.
Speaker 5: Now both men are now on their third teams and.
Speaker 6: And still in their prime, still in their prime, but
Speaker 6: on the wrong side of thirty And are you really
Speaker 6: one player away?
Speaker 4: Buffalo might be for their offense, but for the Jets.
Speaker 3: I understand it.
Speaker 5: If I'm Woody Johnson, I've already kind of sold my
Speaker 5: soul to this Aaron Rodgers thing. Yes, so I gotta
Speaker 5: do whatever I gotta do to rectify this, to make
Speaker 5: this something right, like I gotta when you signed Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 5: you made it very clear that I'm here for a
Speaker 5: good time, not a long time, right, And so I
Speaker 5: got to do whatever I got to do to make
Speaker 5: this good time good times, because it ain't gonna be
Speaker 5: here long.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has maybe one year left in him.
Speaker 5: If he's getting hit the way he get hit in
Speaker 5: these games, he might not have another your left hit him.
Speaker 5: So for them to say, all right, we put all
Speaker 5: our eggs in his basket. We didn't fire the coach,
Speaker 5: we didn't move mountains, give him, what the hell he
Speaker 5: needs got.
Speaker 7: You've given up only a third round pick.
Speaker 8: You have automatically won because you have gotten two impact
Speaker 8: players that can change your situation drastically. This is smart
Speaker 8: on both third round. Third round, that's all second. I
Speaker 8: mean we begging for our third rounds?
Speaker 6: Come on, I do, I do look at these Jets
Speaker 6: and I just don't see. Well, they said they're a
Speaker 6: super Bowl team. They said coming into this season they
Speaker 6: were a super Bowl team. The roster was amazing. Well,
Speaker 6: I haven't seen him run the ball. Well, I've seen
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers be iffy at best. Maybe the wide receiver
Speaker 6: would change that. Let's just say we had a good
Speaker 6: wide receiver. All those a few of those incompletions, they
Speaker 6: might be receptions and they could change the fabric of
Speaker 6: that game. Still a close game. Well it was all
Speaker 6: said and done. So what is that the AFC East. Yes,
Speaker 6: they ain't going nowhere. Nobody's going anywhere. That's a good
Speaker 6: thing for the Jets. No one's going anywhere right now
Speaker 6: like the Cowboys, and nobody's going anywhere right now, so,
Speaker 6: believe it or not.
Speaker 8: Theonte Adams and they're still in good shape. Butte Adams
Speaker 8: impacts your team.
Speaker 5: I think you know, because they just played last night,
Speaker 5: right Buffalo and the New York Jets. I think they looked.
Speaker 5: I think Buffalo looked at the Jets and said, they're
Speaker 5: the only one challenging us, Yeah, this division. And the
Speaker 5: Jets looked at Buffalo and said, if we don't get
Speaker 5: something in hire out, they're gonna start pulling away from us,
Speaker 5: like they're gonna and now we're gonna be and we don't.
Speaker 5: If we don't get the division and how this thing
Speaker 5: plays out, we may.
Speaker 2: Not get you know what. Still, so they were like.
Speaker 5: Let's let's both make some moves because Buffalo was like,
Speaker 5: if we get this piece right here, we can go somewhere,
Speaker 5: and the.
Speaker 2: Judge Jets like, we can't let him get out of sight.
Speaker 2: We gotta keep.
Speaker 5: Pace, all right, Guys, who is the one player as
Speaker 5: the Cowboys into the Bike Week, coming out of the
Speaker 5: Bide Week and going out to San Francisco for NBC
Speaker 5: Sunday Night Football, Who's the one player you need to
Speaker 5: see more from?
Speaker 2: Nate Newton.
Speaker 8: I was praying you go to brother jecause I always
Speaker 8: tell people to ex him. We've heard his name repeatedly
Speaker 8: over and over and over, and uh, it's one guy
Speaker 8: if you want to change the face of what is happening,
Speaker 8: and he's in the heart of all of this running.
Speaker 7: Y'all know who I'm friend to call. It's Minzi. If
Speaker 7: this kid don't get better and hurry up and get better,
Speaker 7: this team is doomed.
Speaker 8: Every team we've lost to have rushed for more than
Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy yards, averaging almost five yards to carry.
Speaker 8: Our linebackers cannot function properly.
Speaker 7: Just think how.
Speaker 8: Big Overshown would be if he didn't have to run
Speaker 8: the hump. Just think Kendrick Ropoto would still be healthy
Speaker 8: if he wasn't getting beat down. I mean every if
Speaker 8: Mazie comes and has after this by just start by
Speaker 8: leaps and bounds, eating up bodies, it would change for
Speaker 8: the Cowboys, I believe with all my heart.
Speaker 7: But he has to be that player.
Speaker 6: And I'll say in his defense, when he does play well,
Speaker 6: we play well. I mean he's had good games. He
Speaker 6: had a good game against Pittsburgh, decent game against the
Speaker 6: Buffalo in the second half, and Baltimore, thank you.
Speaker 2: And so when I saw those stats, I was shocked.
Speaker 6: When I saw him play against Philadelphia, Like, who in
Speaker 6: the hell is that guy? With all this activity? That's
Speaker 6: what I wanted to see more of. And once again,
Speaker 6: I don't care where what team we played against. The
Speaker 6: Giants as well, I don't care what teams that we
Speaker 6: play against. He has to show up, whether they're a
Speaker 6: good team or a bad team, he has to show up.
Speaker 6: If I was gonna talk about someone that could make
Speaker 6: a difference, I got to go with two people, and
Speaker 6: that's DAK and CD. I'm sorry, these guys have got
Speaker 6: to get on the same page some kind of way,
Speaker 6: maybe throw the offensive coordinator in there, whether to play caller,
Speaker 6: because last year they were the reason that we stayed
Speaker 6: in games and this year they pretty much are not.
Speaker 6: And I don't like Dak having to go to all
Speaker 6: these different guys and then all of a sudden, predictably,
Speaker 6: we got to go to CD. Everybody knows we're going
Speaker 6: to CD. The defense always knows when we're going to
Speaker 6: this CD because we're predictable, and when we decide to
Speaker 6: do it and decide to force it. I look at
Speaker 6: those two guys not worried about who what else anyone
Speaker 6: else is doing. From what we saw last year, you
Speaker 6: can't tell me that this combination can't win some games
Speaker 6: for us, just from what I saw last year.
Speaker 5: Did the lack of CD not being in training can't,
Speaker 5: to your in your opinion, mean that much.
Speaker 6: I would not have said so before this year, but
Speaker 6: I don't know what else to point it too. I
Speaker 6: would not have said that just because of the experience
Speaker 6: of both of those guys. I see experience which I
Speaker 6: thought would bring on professionalism, and those two are not
Speaker 6: working together right now. I mean, both of them have
Speaker 6: an experience and professionalism that goes with that. You see
Speaker 6: meltdowns as opposed to guys coming together as.
Speaker 5: A combo just to put a bowl on that just
Speaker 5: in my heart of hearts, and as being a receiver
Speaker 5: and being a round receiver quarterback combinations. DAK and CD
Speaker 5: are coworkers, and that's a lot different than DAK and
Speaker 5: CD actually being friends and sometimes but here's the thing,
Speaker 5: but sometimes when you're co workers and you and I
Speaker 5: we laughing about this about talking about teamates right right, Like,
Speaker 5: there are only certain amount of things I'll do for
Speaker 5: certain teammates the other teammates.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my job, but I ain't gonna go.
Speaker 5: Extra just for the teammates, but at my dog, I
Speaker 5: got you, my dog, I got you.
Speaker 2: I don't think they have that, and why wouldn't they
Speaker 2: have that after last year?
Speaker 5: I don't think they even had it last year. That
Speaker 5: was like, I just I think, like because remember how
Speaker 5: that year it was after I would saying there was
Speaker 5: there's p pre pout CD in post pout CD. Right,
Speaker 5: he had the pre pouting and then he had the
Speaker 5: Arizona run after all that kind of stuff. And what
Speaker 5: I always looked at that was Dak would say one
Speaker 5: thing in his deal, and CD would say another thing
Speaker 5: in his deal, and I said, y'all in the same
Speaker 5: damn locker room. At no point in time that y'all
Speaker 5: ever decided to y'all gonn have a conversation with one another.
Speaker 3: And it was well, just throw me the ball. And
Speaker 3: it was like, hey, we're doing that very best.
Speaker 5: And it was just like, wait, yo, time out, time out.
Speaker 5: Does somebody do who one of you just say, hey,
Speaker 5: come in, bro, let's let's sit out like men, Let's
Speaker 5: hash out whatever it needs to be hashed out so
Speaker 5: that I need you and you need me.
Speaker 6: I considering how this passed offseason worked out, for both
Speaker 6: of them. That just surprises me that this gap is
Speaker 6: getting wider.
Speaker 3: They didn't work out this offseason.
Speaker 6: No, I just made in regards to the money that
Speaker 6: they made, right, I made. But you so you have
Speaker 6: to realize I made this money because of you.
Speaker 2: You made this money because of me.
Speaker 6: That's facts you can't get by there, whether you boys
Speaker 6: or not.
Speaker 5: Now, but do you say, but do you say to
Speaker 5: yourself Welsh, Yeah, you made this money because of me?
Speaker 4: Well no, but it's got But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: How the attitudes of now you made this money because
Speaker 3: of me? Who else you gonna throw the ball to?
Speaker 5: And he looking over that, like you made the money
Speaker 5: because of me, Who the hell is gonna throw you
Speaker 5: the ball? And now you have this you you have
Speaker 5: this stare off of who contributed more to the other
Speaker 5: person's success.
Speaker 6: So then as teammates ask someone who's a Dallas cowboy,
Speaker 6: that's gonna be a moment to what you say, Man,
Speaker 6: we need each other.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be a moment, you know, because now look
Speaker 2: where we are.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So like you're saying, called Jesse said, look ahead,
Speaker 8: I need you. I got that ain't them which I'm
Speaker 8: with Jesse and those days of not getting along.
Speaker 7: It carries too far. Now you have to get along
Speaker 7: and these because this thing.
Speaker 2: Right here, I was just thinking that, Yeah.
Speaker 8: You have me and you didn't always see eye to
Speaker 8: eye because of your political views were so open. He's
Speaker 8: scared the rest of the brothers in the locker room.
Speaker 8: His political views was not being it. And I'm just
Speaker 8: being honest, But me and you ever not got along.
Speaker 8: These guys got to put whatever differences they have aside
Speaker 8: and get a loan.
Speaker 3: But did y'all sit down and have a man and
Speaker 3: a man come?
Speaker 7: We didn't have to. We understood where he stood.
Speaker 6: I mean, because I guess it's just a different generations. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, I to talk about the neighbor behind his back,
Speaker 6: I come and say the same thing to his face, and.
Speaker 2: Then am I gonna come back here and he gonna
Speaker 2: clown me? And even if I'm pissed off, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be funny.
Speaker 9: Yes.
Speaker 5: So just to make sure I'm hearing this right, you
Speaker 5: all think there is it gotta be a riff issue
Speaker 5: between Dak Prescott and CD like. Hold it, You're gonna
Speaker 5: take a break and I'll answer the question that you
Speaker 5: originally posed when we come back on us because we're
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Speaker 4: I ain't do Jackman Dallas.
Speaker 3: I learned how to read that read like you man.
Speaker 3: I went to my new Scruggs. You taught me that
Speaker 3: a long time ago.
Speaker 4: That's how Isaiah stand back. That's you stand back.
Speaker 5: You told me that a long time ago. Like listen, man,
Speaker 5: get into that different voice when you read those reads. Man,
Speaker 5: get to that voice that they're gonna cut the check
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were.
Speaker 5: Discussing and it was good discussion. I stopped it, teased
Speaker 5: it to keep the people here.
Speaker 3: It's called the sizzle.
Speaker 5: So you've got a six million dollar quarterback and a
Speaker 5: thirty million dollar wide receiver.
Speaker 4: We've now seen two straight games in the red zone.
Speaker 5: They don't know what's going on here, and you're diving
Speaker 5: deeper here, Jesse.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to you where you.
Speaker 5: Said, Hey, these two guys are co workers.
Speaker 4: They're not friends, hope, buddies, homies. What's going on here
Speaker 4: with the disconnect?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: I wish I had a concrete answer, Okay, right, I
Speaker 5: wish I had something to go Like, they got concept
Speaker 5: they got concepts.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, concepts of a plane.
Speaker 5: But I just when you look at like I'll give
Speaker 5: you an example. We talked earlier about today about the
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers getting.
Speaker 4: His Robert Solomon, Well, no, he got him.
Speaker 5: Oh, Mike Williams, but he got he got Dvante Adams back,
Speaker 5: Oh Dante, right, go back and watch the clip. Aaron's
Speaker 5: sitting there and he's on the he's on one of
Speaker 5: the shows that he's doing. And he's sitting there and
Speaker 5: he's talking and he looks over and you see him
Speaker 5: the gold to his left, and he goes and he
Speaker 5: does that and in walks into the shot Davante Adams,
Speaker 5: and I ain't seen I ain't seen Aaron Rodgers smile
Speaker 5: this much since he came out of the cave on
Speaker 5: at a Sawassa.
Speaker 3: He was so happy on that good stuff. He was
Speaker 3: so happy. Google.
Speaker 5: So the young kids call it spinning the block. Google
Speaker 5: Nelly and Ashanti, right, Nelly, he lost to Shanty many
Speaker 5: many years ago. Saw at a Verse is hugged. Now
Speaker 5: they married, about to have a baby, and you don't
Speaker 5: see Nellie, he don't got he got the biggest smile
Speaker 5: on his face. You just don't see that type of
Speaker 5: love between these two. We've seen these two spend more
Speaker 5: time bickering, talking about bickering, having to throw us off
Speaker 5: about their bickering, trying to say that their bickering is
Speaker 5: not actually bickering. And all the reports over the last
Speaker 5: two years about YouTube being on the same page, that
Speaker 5: doesn't give that doesn't give the indication to me that
Speaker 5: there is a strong loving bond between these two where
Speaker 5: they're saying, you're my w R one, I'm your QB one,
Speaker 5: and we are in this together. It feels like there's
Speaker 5: something that is a disconnect between these two.
Speaker 6: I just remember when Cooper Cooper rush came in the cornerback.
Speaker 6: This is when Dak got hurt. I can't remember which.
Speaker 5: Time, Halloween, Sunday night football at Minnesota. That was one
Speaker 5: of the first That was one of the first time.
Speaker 6: This was this Minnesota when Cooper threw a ball out there,
Speaker 6: Ceedy was running down the sidelines, ball was in between
Speaker 6: he and the safety.
Speaker 2: The safety got it and CD kept on running. Remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the last time.
Speaker 6: That they had an issue. After that, they went on
Speaker 6: a run that was two years ago. Up, I'm not
Speaker 6: mistaken didn't. May have been behind the scenes, but nothing
Speaker 6: came to the surface. When I saw the red zone play,
Speaker 6: I thought it was a bad throw by that period,
Speaker 6: But was it salvageable if CD would have gone in
Speaker 6: and tried to make because.
Speaker 2: It was really the same thing to where you could have.
Speaker 3: You could have just crashed out and not not being
Speaker 3: something that happened.
Speaker 2: There you go, So do you think that could have
Speaker 2: happened in that game?
Speaker 8: In the seeing it happened ten thousand times with Michael
Speaker 8: Herven and Troy. And that's the first thing I said
Speaker 8: on both interceptions, if CD don't get this ball.
Speaker 2: No one gets don't let no one get it.
Speaker 8: And so I'm saying to myself, I saw CD a
Speaker 8: couple of games going he blew up run the end route.
Speaker 8: All the dude did was stuck his hands in there
Speaker 8: and CED just.
Speaker 2: Let that dude green bank. Yeah, yeah, Like was huge
Speaker 2: because they were on that comeback trail.
Speaker 7: Don't let your body language.
Speaker 2: And here they already had the bad body language earlier
Speaker 2: in that game. I talked about that play.
Speaker 6: I don't know if anyone was listening, that was a
Speaker 6: moment to where if he makes that play, much as
Speaker 6: Green Bay game wasn't worth the crap. That was a
Speaker 6: moment to where it could have been a momentum changer.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen CD.
Speaker 6: And it's nothing I had. Like my boy said, nothing
Speaker 6: I ain't heard. It's what I've seen. I've seen him
Speaker 6: go up and get those passes. That particular time, you
Speaker 6: had the corner back on your back, you had the
Speaker 6: safety coming over, and the ball was thrown up to
Speaker 6: where he had a chance to go up and get it.
Speaker 6: He decided to catch it in his for some reason.
Speaker 6: Too much traffic. You know, you got two dbs around you.
Speaker 2: You can't wait for the ball to come down to you.
Speaker 2: The safety got his hand in there knocked it away.
Speaker 6: If you're going up like that, then the safety's hand
Speaker 6: doesn't in there and stop you from going up at
Speaker 6: that ball. There are certain things is as great as
Speaker 6: he is, and I love me some CD. Sometimes you
Speaker 6: got to save your quarterback. That's what your wife receivers do.
Speaker 6: They saved the quarterback.
Speaker 8: And that goes back to the comments that just made
Speaker 8: co workers versus it's this, my boy.
Speaker 6: You got regardless of what you are to each other,
Speaker 6: you got a common goal and that should take presents
Speaker 6: over anything, and that's just that's to me. That's the
Speaker 6: bottom line. I don't get with them. We talked about
Speaker 6: this out. It's a bottom line, man. We gotta make
Speaker 6: these plays so we can so we can keep making
Speaker 6: more money, you know, keep getting more of the endorsements, y'all,
Speaker 6: keep getting more love, keep helping my team.
Speaker 2: That's me.
Speaker 5: So who plays Jerry West? I bring that up because
Speaker 5: I worked in LA with Shaq and Kobe. Both got
Speaker 5: to the Lakers and then they eventually had their own
Speaker 5: issues and it was Jerry West that had to get
Speaker 5: up in there and reach some daytime.
Speaker 4: So who plays Jerry West?
Speaker 5: Here between the sixty million dollar quarterback and the thirty
Speaker 5: million dollar receiver, and neither one of them is going
Speaker 5: anywhere anytime soon. You can't even trade somebody because it
Speaker 5: will cripple the salary cap. Easy answer is macrostic. That's
Speaker 5: the easy answer. But that may not be the right answer,
Speaker 5: but it's the easy answer if they're willing to listen.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The funny part about like when you ask the question,
Speaker 5: who is it? Right at this point in time, nobody.
Speaker 3: Everybody's fighting for it.
Speaker 5: Like you you have put this team and This is
Speaker 5: my Jerry Jones rant. You have put this team in
Speaker 5: a total survival mode. Jokers is really worried about now
Speaker 5: by owld stuff. I'm trying to I'm I got my
Speaker 5: little bucket in my boat and I'm I'm trying to
Speaker 5: get the water out of my boat.
Speaker 3: I ain't got time to help you get the water
Speaker 3: out your boat.
Speaker 4: Daylight SOLDI.
Speaker 7: It's just me myself.
Speaker 3: It's just me myself.
Speaker 5: Like you've put You've put this team defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator,
Speaker 5: head coach.
Speaker 3: It's a bunch dudes around here.
Speaker 7: Is like, I cant third of your football team.
Speaker 5: Think about how many one year contracts are up. Jonas
Speaker 5: is looking around at place saying, like, y'all talk about team,
Speaker 5: like in my out of iverson boy, you're talking about practice,
Speaker 5: y'all talk about team, buddy.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to save me.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to hold on to whatever it is that
Speaker 5: I can hold on for me. And you can say
Speaker 5: they don't go into locker rooms. It goes on the
Speaker 5: locker rooms. Jocas is trying to hold on and trying
Speaker 5: to do the best for them until this thing gets
Speaker 5: figured out. So people ain't trying to really pour into
Speaker 5: other people and and and have disputes. Okay, undone because
Speaker 5: they're like, so, since you say that there's people who
Speaker 5: are concerned about their one year and what's going to
Speaker 5: happen with the rest of their lives, Well, would that
Speaker 5: not be then upon the general manager since he's going
Speaker 5: to be here to get said quarterback and said wide
Speaker 5: receiver to sit down.
Speaker 2: You don't think Jeri can did that.
Speaker 7: Let me say this, man, y'all, let me say this right.
Speaker 7: Let me say it.
Speaker 8: Normally I'm always sitting in the middle and they ain't
Speaker 8: gonna say nothing too bad. But I'm gonna say this
Speaker 8: right here because I know it's the truth. I'm making
Speaker 8: sixty million dollars a year, one hundred and eighty of
Speaker 8: that guaranteed what you're gonna tell me, even if you
Speaker 8: don't what you're gonna tell me, give me my money.
Speaker 7: Man in the story, But and the.
Speaker 5: Other dude said, guy like and say I making thirty
Speaker 5: million dollars.
Speaker 6: That guarantee you that to that player when you write
Speaker 6: that sent to that player, you wrote that sixty them
Speaker 6: because you think y'all have a report.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when it comes to another dance, not when it
Speaker 8: comes to another man's like a dislike and.
Speaker 5: You said, Mike McCarthy, they're gonna him out, said humble,
Speaker 5: But I want I watched you, I know, your real
Speaker 5: estate agent.
Speaker 3: I watched she working.
Speaker 2: Talk to him.
Speaker 5: I watched it work Jerry West, who, by the way,
Speaker 5: had that much.
Speaker 4: Juice because he was Jerry.
Speaker 5: He was able to take a situation that was volatile
Speaker 5: and get them to get on the same page.
Speaker 4: So it's not undoable.
Speaker 3: Like but see, you keep.
Speaker 8: Trying to this is the deal. DAK is more old
Speaker 8: school than CD. That will probably be willing to look
Speaker 8: him in his eyes. Yeah, but CD knew he knew that.
Speaker 8: Gen Z, Yeah, gen Z, he is new and CD
Speaker 8: and he ain't hearing what you're trying to say. We
Speaker 8: we can sit here and try to fix this, but
Speaker 8: it's a CD want it fixed, it ain't.
Speaker 2: Don't get fixed.
Speaker 5: And gentlemen, I was trying to find out Tyler, go
Speaker 5: you have to figure out how to play better football.
Speaker 8: That was my one guy, Well, now where you be
Speaker 8: crushing the right tackle? I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 8: the right he's cooked.
Speaker 3: We're done with like he's cooked, We're so done with him.
Speaker 3: At least guy we got some more years. I've got
Speaker 3: a future.
Speaker 2: At least I'm coming young right now.
Speaker 7: He don't changed our head coach, Nate what is what
Speaker 7: is that?
Speaker 5: He coach freaking Mike Michael for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Michael for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: What a fun show. You're gonna end it right there, guys,
Speaker 5: Jesse how Everson Walls, Nate Newton, I knew he scruggs.
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Speaker 2: What a fun one.
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