1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne de Gat. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: We have a special guest with us this morning. We 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: have Jessica tar Love. 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you for having me. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: How you feeling this morning. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm good? Yeah, up early. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Well we got to talk about some breaking newis. 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: I want to say I want to stay with Jessica. 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: You know we worked together once when we both did 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Piers morgansh Yeah, And I've told you this off air, 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: but I really appreciate you because I watch all the 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: news networks. I watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and if you 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: don't watch these network you don't realize it's people actually 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: on Fox News who push back on a lot of 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: the misinformation and false narratives that exist on that network. 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: And you're one of them. 18 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you. And it was great to be 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: on Piers's show with you, and it's great to be 20 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: at Fox. I think liberals should show up at Fox 21 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: more often. A lot of persuadable voters out there, and 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: you have better conversations. It never appealed to me to 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: kind of sit around a table with four or five 24 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: people who are all kind of parroting the same thing, 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: or you're looking for that one little piece that could 26 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: differentiate you. So I've had a great time at Fox. 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. That's something that I've I've 28 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: suggested to a lot of liberals, you know, especially the 29 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: VP now running for president. Yeah, go on Fox. President 30 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: Obama used to do it, you know you. Gavin Newsom 31 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: did it. When he started doing it, they started talking 32 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: about him being running for president. Secretary Buddha Judge does 33 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: it all the time. Go on there. Well. 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: Tim Walls was on two weeks ago. He did America's Newsroom, 35 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: which is, you know, a hard news program from nine 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: to eleven in the morning, and he was great. You know, 37 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: he's super affable no matter what environment he's in. But 38 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: I love it when I see elected officials showing up. Brettair, 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: who hosts Special Report, he has a segment called common 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: Ground where he brings on a Democrat and a Republican, 41 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: and Democrats even as left as Elizabeth Warren are clamoring 42 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: to get on there. It's a great venue for people 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: to show up. And just if you want to talk 44 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 3: to the most people possible, you're going to go to Fox. 45 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: How'd you end up doing so? 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: I I went to graduate school in England. I did 47 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: a PhD in politics, and I came back to the 48 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: US and worked in polling for Bill Clinton's old polster. 49 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: And then he was a contributor at Fox. And he's 50 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: a very centrist Democrat guy called Doug Shown, and he 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: started pushing me to do media. It was actually just 52 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: like a great mentoring boss move. He said, you know, 53 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: when you work for someone who you can't ever be, 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: you know, no one's going to hire me. They're going 55 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: to hire Doug to do the job. He said, you 56 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: have to start building your own brand. And so he 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: called in a favor and just said, I have this 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: girl works for me. She's really smart. Give her a shot. 59 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: And I started going on and the relationship, you know, 60 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: just went from there and I started doing more and 61 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 3: more shows. Sean Hannity gave me a shot in primetime 62 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: and I started doing his show a lot, and I 63 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: got hired in twenty seventeen, you know, soon after Hillary loss, 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: and I've been there ever since. 65 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, you know, how many times 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: have you been threatened? Don't on Fox News and the 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: dms of people at all, a lot on not too many. 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: I mean threatened is extreme. There my Twitter timeline, that's 69 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: the only social media that I have and I only 70 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: got it actually when I started coming on Fox a lot, 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: because Hannity in fact told me you just need to 72 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: people need to have a way to be able to 73 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: reach you. And it's a good way, or it used 74 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 3: to be a good way to consume news. Now it's 75 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: impossible to know what's true or not or fake on 76 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: AX I should call it. But my timeline is brutal. 77 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: I mean, people are not the loudest, voices are the cruelest. 78 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: If they meet you in person, they're so friendly, which 79 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: I can't stand, you know, everyone hiding behind the keyboard 80 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: warriors of it all. But there are a lot of 81 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: people who are really supportive from conservatives. I mean, we 82 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: have a huge democratic viewership on the five, so over 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: twenty percent of the viewers are liberals, and we have 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: the highest number of independents as well from all the networks, 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: So a lot of support and now the way that 86 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: it works, and that's how you know, I see a 87 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: ton of what you guys are talking about because of 88 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: clip culture, right, you see like a little sound bite 89 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: and the liberal clip first or whatever you would call 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: it takes stuff off the five all the time. 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Right, You've been getting Yeah, you've been going viral a lot. 92 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, like I said, it's because people aren't 93 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: used to seeing somebody push back. 94 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: Well, they always say, oh, I bet she's gonna this 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: is her last time appearing on Fox, or she's gonna 96 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: be fired, and I'm like, well, no, I've been there, 97 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: you know, eight years, and I assume I'm not getting fired. 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: And I just I didn't even think about that. It's like, 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: damn you. You get the opposite of what most people 100 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: don't get, because you probably get the maga crazies who 101 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: come up to you bugging out. Because I was at 102 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: lunch one time. It was me and Kenny, because me 103 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: and Kenny a super cool yeah, and it was me 104 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: and Kennedy and Brian killed me with that. And this 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: guy walks up to Brian and goes, you, Brian killed me, 106 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: And Brian goes yeah, and he goes, I just wanted 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: to tell you go fuck yourself, jesus. I was actually 108 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: a few months ago. You had security though, right, yeah, 109 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: my security. Ye, you got to figure this out. 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely, you know, because our offices are just 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: down the block from where we are here, and Manhattan 112 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: is not full of many conservatives, so there's definitely a 113 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: lot of uh, you encounter folks who are not fans 114 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: of people that work at Fox. Outside of New York though, 115 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: where it is Fox Country, people are so nice, really friendly, 116 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: but very traditional what you think of as nice conservative values. 117 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: And I just so, I have two daughters, I just 118 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: got back from maternity leaveing the RNC was my first 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: week back. 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 121 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I land in twenty minutes later, Donald Trump's 122 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: ear gets shot and I was like, oh my god, 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: I don't think I can do this. You know, it 124 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: was just such a swirl and everyone I met in 125 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: Milwaukee could not have been nicer. You know. Everyone does 126 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: say I don't agree with your politics, but and I 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: think it's part of what makes actually Fox so successful 128 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: in general, but definitely versus the other networks, that they 129 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: really try to amplify your personal life. I mean, it's 130 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: something Kennedy obviously has excelled in her whole life. You know, 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: she talks about everything from her daughters, her dog, her 132 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: ex husband, her like you know, ever Jordan, her Michael 133 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: Jordan hitting on her her relationship with people like you, 134 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: what it's like to have had such a crazy life. 135 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: And then the viewers, whether they like your politics or not, 136 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: they feel something kindred with you. And so I think 137 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: it's that's definitely helped me get through, you know, whatever 138 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: shit has hurled at me online. 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so, what do you think about 140 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, yesterday it was broken at Kamala Harris is 141 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: picking Tim Wallas. What's your thoughts on that? 142 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: So I actually thought it was going to be him, 143 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: just based on the last couple of days. So Jos 144 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: Shapiro definitely seemed like the smart He's the guy. He 145 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: was the guy, I mean, the Baruck Obama of it all, 146 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: you know, I love And you could tell that the 147 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: Republicans they've not only been floundering with what do they 148 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: do about Kamala, they did not know what to do 149 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: about Josh Shapiro. I mean, he is the absolute opposite 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: of JD. Vance right, like the genuine article. When you 151 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: hear either of them speak, one sounds like he's still 152 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: in law school and the other sounds like he could 153 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: be president of the United States. And so I had 154 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: thought it was going to be Josh Shapiro, and we 155 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: need Pennsylvania's electoral votes, so all of that was pretty aligned. 156 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: And then stories started to leak out about how much 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: Kamala's team was enjoying Tim Waltz's team and Tim Waltz personally. 158 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: And I don't want to make it into like this 159 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: has become a ViBe's election, but I think the fact 160 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: that Tim Waltz was the guy to first say these 161 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Republicans they're just weird, right, because everyone has been searching 162 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: for a way to describe Donald Trump. You know, we've 163 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: gone through all the usual stuff, talking about the race, bad, 164 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: how bad his policies are, et cetera. But when he's 165 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: up there talking about electrocuting sharks or the late Great 166 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: Hannibal Lecter, You're like, how do I actually put into 167 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: words how weird this is? And Tim Walls was the 168 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: first guy to do that. 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: He was a don't have no legs, And I feel like, 170 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: and weird is the understatement wed weird almost sounds cute. 171 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: I think what's going on? And again I started with 172 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: I thought it should have Josh A barrow makes the 173 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: most sense on paper, And all of this is that 174 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: everyone has gone back to their corners, so Republicans and 175 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: Democrats are where they're going to go, and you're just 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: focused on like one hundred thousand moderates that are in 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: these four or five key swing states. And they have 178 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: been saying in survey after survey, I don't want to 179 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: hear about January sixth anymore. I don't want to hear 180 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 3: about thretta democracy. I want to hear about your policies. 181 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: I want the rhetoric toned down. You know, people are 182 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: sick of it. They don't want to hear that it's 183 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: the end of the world tomorrow, whether you're saying it's 184 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: because Donald Trump's going to become president, or like when 185 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: AOC said climate change is going to wipe out the 186 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: planet by twenty two eight or whatever it is. And 187 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 3: I think that Tim Walls has a vibe that not 188 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: only made her feel comfortable, but that people who are 189 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: looking for toning down of the rhetoric are going. 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: To I don't think you should toe down the rhetoric. 191 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: I know you're very I appreciate it. When we were 192 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: on Piers's show together, you know, we were you know, 193 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: I felt bad for Dave Ruben, who was sitting between 194 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: us because it was like a threat to democracy, you know, 195 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: Cookie there he was just sitting in the middle and 196 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: we were going at it. But I agree with you. 197 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: I think you should. We should never stop talking about that. 198 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: But unfortunately, the way it works is the people that 199 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: we need to win over don't want to hear it 200 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: of any anymore. It's baked in. 201 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: But do you know the country it says that they're 202 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: tired of two white old men running for president, and 203 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: I think that just adds to it. You know, they 204 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: didn't want to see Trump abid it and people weren't 205 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: excited about it. It seems like it brings that energy 206 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: right back into it. 207 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: He's only six months older than Yeah, he just looks 208 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: he looks. 209 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: He does. He did have a great line that if 210 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: you were a teacher for twenty years, you would look 211 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: like that too. I mean looks great and he looks 212 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: particularly bad for a sixty year old. But yes, he 213 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: was also the football coach, I think it was. But 214 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: he is bringing that boomer dad energy to it. And 215 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: I think that she ended up going with someone that 216 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: she felt more comfortable with. And you know, people will 217 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: pick this apart. They'll say which I think has a 218 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: lot of merit. You know, Josh Shapiro was supportive of 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: school vouchers, and the teacher unions were not particularly thrilled 220 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: with that. Labor leaders who have been giving interviews have 221 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: put Walls and Basher at the top of their list, 222 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: and we know that Democrats don't win without labor unions 223 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: live in. 224 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: A nuanced with the school voucher thing. Because Governor Spiro 225 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: was also supportive of public schools as well, up a 226 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: lot of money into public schools, especially the breakfast programs there. 227 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: Oh totally, but Tim Walls's breakfast and lunch okay, so 228 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: you get your lunch too, no matter your income. I 229 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: think that it really came down to what she was 230 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: comfortable with. And I think that even though she has 231 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: outperformed expectations the last couple of weeks, I think she 232 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: has risen to the occasion in a way that a 233 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: lot of people didn't expect. And I know you've always 234 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: been a fan of Kamala's, but there are a lot 235 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: of Democrats who didn't see it right. In twenty nineteen, 236 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty said, you know, she has her first huge 237 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: rally in Oakland, and we thought this is it right? 238 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: This is the woman that can do it. And we 239 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: were so despondent after Hillary's loss and thought that this 240 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: was the woman that could take over that mantle and 241 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: it just flamed out, right, And she has seemed like 242 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: that person over the last couple of weeks. But she's 243 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: more nervous than someone that's running for president. 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: I've seen her. 245 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh totally, but she has I think it's part 246 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: of the authenticity. But the right will make it out 247 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: to be unprepared, nervous, et cetera. And I think she 248 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: wanted to be with someone that made her feel comfortable, 249 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: and I think that's what Tim Walls did. 250 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be something to that, because I mean 251 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: another thing, people are going to point to the fact 252 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: she hadn't done an official press conference yet, She hadn't 253 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: done any interviews, right, So you know, if the narrative 254 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: for Biden was they were hiding him, keeping the basement, 255 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: didn't want him to talk, that can't be her narrative. No. 256 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the rallies don't count, right, I mean, they're 257 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: going to be great events. The rally in Atlanta with 258 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: Megan de Sallian was fabulous. She's in Philly tonight. I 259 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: think it's a ten thousand person crowd. But she's got 260 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: to sit down and do the interviews. And I said 261 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: this on Fox last week. I really think she should 262 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: do an interview where she lets them play the tape 263 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: of all of the really progressive things that she said, 264 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: you know, talking about defunding the police, talking about healthcare 265 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: for you know, people who are here undocumented, and explain 266 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: from a policy perspective why she changed her mind that 267 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: these are things that you believe in in principle right 268 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: that we treat every person some of the same level 269 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: of humanity and dignity when you actually get into governing, 270 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: this is how the nuts and bolts of it work. 271 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: And give a really boring interview where you just seem 272 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: like a policy wonk and show that you were actually 273 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: doing everything. With Biden, I think the Biden team didn't 274 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: do her a great service by kind of pushing her. 275 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about being in charge of the border, 276 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: because Joe Biden was in charge of the border when 277 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: he was VP. That's very typical. But I don't think 278 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: they've shone a bright enough light on her for the 279 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: things that she was doing and doing well, Like apparently 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: the idea to cap insulin at thirty five dollars that 281 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: came out of the Harris side of things. That's one 282 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: of the most popular policies. Give it to her, like 283 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: give her. 284 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Her flowers in the American Rescue. 285 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: Totally, the money for rural broadband for HBCUs, you know. 286 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: And she's done a great job talking about the Dobbs 287 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: decision obviously dollars. 288 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: To mental health initiative. 289 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also they didn't play up that she was, 290 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, the top cop of California. 291 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: I think I think she's been trying to herself from that. 292 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: But she shouldn't especially lean in for this selection. Like 293 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: everyone is absolutely in their corners. You have these moderates 294 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: who did want a Josh Shapiro come out and tell 295 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: them about everyone you prosecuted. 296 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: How is Fox gonna spend the Tim Walls thing? Because 297 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I got some ideas, right, I'm not giving him my deals. 298 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: But this is what I think they're gonna do. 299 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: This is given to my DEAs. 300 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: No, it's not. This is what I think they're gonna do. 301 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I think they're they're gonna they're gonna point to the 302 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: to the the far left being anti Semitic, and they're 303 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: gonna point to a lot of anti Symitism that might 304 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: exist in the Democratic Party because a lot of people 305 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: have already been asking. I was watching ce N last night, 306 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Dana Bash asked Nancy Pelosi, why is Josh Shapiro getting 307 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: so much flak over his Israel Gaza stands when him 308 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: and Tim Walls. 309 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: Is the same. 310 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's gonna be one. I think 311 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: Fox News is gonna run videos of the aftermath of 312 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: George Floyd, the Riots air coach. He has the city 313 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: burning in Minnesota. I think they're gonna play that and 314 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: say he was in charge of all of this. I 315 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: think those are the two ways they're they're gonna attack definitely. 316 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: And I you know, I'm I'm Jewish. I think our 317 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: party has an anti Semitism problem that they don't want 318 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: to deal with properly. And I think that the way 319 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: that Josh Shapiro has been treated does reflect that to 320 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: some degree, even the anxiety about it popping up and 321 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: you'll see left wing commentators like a Medi Hassan, for instance, saying, 322 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: you know, Josh Shapiro is fantastic, why do you want 323 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: to anger this part of the bass right that's going 324 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: to be upset about this. That's part of the protest, 325 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: the college campus protests, et cetera. And you're totally right. 326 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: Josh Shapiro has a record of statements and opinions on 327 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: Israel that is exactly the same as the four finalists. 328 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: If you took the quotes, you could say it was 329 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: Andy Basheer or Josh Shapiro, Mark Kelly, Tim Waltz. I mean, 330 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: Tim Waltz has gone and taken selfies with Net and Yahoo. 331 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: No one has brought that up at all. 332 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Shapiro called it, and yeah, he was one of the fields, 333 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: the fields that I remember. 334 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: Which just how the majority of American Jews feel. You know, 335 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: we don't like nat Yaho. Israelis don't like Natan Yaho. 336 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: So how should they handle Israel? 337 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Though? 338 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: How should they handle that situation? Because it seems very 339 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: they're walking on egg shells when they speak about it, 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: and you talk about it on these side, how would 341 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: you advise that they handle it? 342 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: Well, I think the priority what you should just be 343 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: saying every single day, and I hate that it's dropped 344 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: out of the discourses. Bring the hostages home, that's all. 345 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: That's what this is about. There are still dozens of 346 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: people that are being held in captivity in Gaza by Hamas. 347 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: That's a priority. And Kamala was asked she landed in 348 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: the tarmac in Atlanta before her rally last week, and 349 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: she was very clear, Israel has a right to defend 350 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: itself and I think that you're seeing that play out. 351 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: But now that we have what's going on with Iran 352 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: and all of this, this is going it seems like 353 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: going to blow up into a larger problem in the 354 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: Middle East than just being able to say this is 355 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: about Israel and what's gone on in Gaza. But I 356 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: think it would be smart for her Vice President Harris 357 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: to continue on the track that Biden has been on. 358 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: I mean, the proposal that has gotten us the closest 359 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: to peace and the hostages coming home was honed out 360 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: of that administration. I think Secretary Blinkeln has done a 361 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: great job, and if I were her, I wouldn't change 362 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: anything for how it is, because it's holding together the 363 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: coalition and the way to win the election. And it 364 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: seems like moving the needle with Nan Yahoo as much 365 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: as you can. I mean, they have been it sounds 366 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: like from the reporting, you know, behind the scenes, really 367 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: forceful with him and just saying kind of like stop 368 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 3: fucking around, like I don't want to see anything in 369 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: the West Bank. I don't want you to be giving 370 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: any more power than any right wingers in this, like 371 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: get the hostages home and you know we're out. So 372 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: I would continue on with where Joe Biden has been 373 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: going with this if I were her, and she should 374 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: speak to it, and I would address it even with 375 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: the Josh not picking Josh Shapiro, like why not say 376 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: something like big eater up about that? 377 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I really do because even when the language they're using 378 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: when they say they didn't want to pick Shapiro because 379 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: they picked the Walls because he does the least damage. 380 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a do no harm. 381 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Where's the damage coming from? Well? 382 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: I do think with Shapiro that part of that is 383 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: the teachers' union issue, that that could break up the 384 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: labor the labor coalition. But there is anxiety. I mean 385 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: my text messages when the announcement came out was full 386 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: of my friends who are Jewish, with some just disappointed 387 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: wanted her to go for it, just to say kind 388 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: of like fuck you to everybody and I'm going with 389 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: the guy that makes the most electoral sense, a guy 390 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: who people could see as presidential right that he's on 391 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: his way to that. And Tim Waltz, it should be noted, 392 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: does not seem like that. And that's part of the 393 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: do no harm principle and kind of why Obama picked 394 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: Biden that, I mean, the corollaries are interesting between that. 395 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Biden was someone that could shore up 396 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: the blue wall for him, right, he had that affable 397 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: way of talking. Some of it were gaffes, but no 398 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: one thought Joe Biden was a bad guy, and no 399 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: one thinks Tim Wallace is a bad guy. 400 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: Well, that depends if those of us who knew about 401 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: the ninety four crime Bill in the eighties, the commandatory, 402 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm citizen, did We didn't think he was 403 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: the greatest guy. Those of us who knew, you know, 404 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: he gave the eulogies that segregation is, you know, like 405 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: strom Therman's funerals. I'm from South Carolina. 406 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: That no I understand, Yeah, and I certainly hear it. 407 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad policy. 408 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: There is a lot of bad policy. There has been 409 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: also a lot of repentance for bad policy. Is it. 410 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: I think. I mean, he's certainly I think the best 411 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: of to'ement his legislation. 412 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: When it comes to the legislation, well, don't you think 413 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: that Biden has at least looking at the Biden Harris 414 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: record or what went on under the Obama years, that 415 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 3: there has been some repentance from that as a policy. 416 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Not not enough. In regards to 417 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: the crime bills, I don't think so. 418 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he has made an effort, does it, 419 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: and it never goes far enough for anyone. And part 420 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: of that is the structure of you often need bipartisan 421 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: support for something and what are you going to get. 422 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the crime bill that was bipartisan under the 423 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: Trump administration that Tim Scott did, it doesn't move the needle, really, 424 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: I don't think that much. And it's difficult to really 425 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: have kind of soaring legislation that is going to make 426 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: a massive difference. I at least from how he's spoken 427 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: about it. I feel like Joe Biden has a lot 428 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: of regret about things that he signed on to. The 429 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: Clintons have obviously spoken about that as well. But you 430 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: can't undo damage that you've done to people's lives like that, 431 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: so that's something that will hang over them. 432 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Do you think that they will debate or do you 433 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: think it's not going to happen? 434 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: Kamala hell oh, I think they. I mean, I certainly 435 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: think they should. I think that she should say three debates, 436 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: and I think it's fair to start with September tenth 437 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: on ABC because that was an agreed upon one, and 438 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: then do a Fox debate and then do a something 439 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: else to maybe a Univision debates something I think they 440 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: absolutely should, and the contrast will be really stark. It's 441 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: been interesting to see like all of the negatives about 442 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: Biden's age and his competency have now moved over to 443 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: Trump now that there's only one really old guy in 444 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: the race. And I think that even excuse me, even 445 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: if she has some moments where she stumbles, she's still 446 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 3: going to look like the vibrant, fresh alternative in all 447 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: of this, and he's going to seem like an old 448 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: sexist guy that's yelling at a woman like he did 449 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: with Hillary. Remember she was like, why why are you yelling? 450 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the reason why I don't think he 451 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: wants to do it. Like That's why I'm thinking he's 452 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: throwing things out there where he feels that she wouldn't do, 453 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: you know, so it makes it seem like it's her 454 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: not wanting to do it, where obviously he doesn't. 455 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we pay more attention to the press releases 456 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: in all of this than a lot of people. I 457 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: think it's all just stupid game, right, Like my comms 458 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: person is going to say this, and then you're comms 459 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: person is going to say this, and they should be 460 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: thinking about, Okay, there's one hundred thousand people that I 461 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: need to convince they're going to pay attention to a debate. 462 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: I should job up for a debate. 463 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: What did you think about him doing Aidan Ross yesterday 464 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: a streamer. 465 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it was probably a smart electoral move for him, 466 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: but I found it repulsive. 467 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: I thought it was great only because I feel like 468 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: you have to meet people where they are. 469 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: I agree, But Aiden Ross has kind of played around 470 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 3: in certainly in the anti Semitic with like a Nick 471 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: Fuenttes type of character, someone who is eating at mar 472 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: A Lago as well. I you know, I tend to 473 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: be I guess a bit of a Pollyanna about that, 474 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: where I think certain people I'm not talking about deplatforming. 475 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 3: And I understand they have a base, but if I 476 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: was running for president, I wouldn't want to sit down 477 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: with someone who has had given safe harbor to someone 478 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: who you know, thinks the Holocaust was a hoax. 479 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm with you, but you know there's a new 480 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: voter turning eighteen every day and that dude's demo is 481 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: like age thirteen to twenty four. And it's just like, yo, 482 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: you sometimes you have to really meet people where they are. 483 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to a lot of you know, liberals 484 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: yesterday and they were saying to me, we care about 485 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: young voters, not young people, And I'm like, well, what's 486 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: the difference. You might energize some of those young people 487 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to register to become young voters. Like, for all we know, 488 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump might have had cast fifty thousand, one hundred 489 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: thousand kids that never thought about voting to go ready 490 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: to the vote yesterday. You don't know, you don't know. 491 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: And again that's why I say it was smart electorally 492 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: from a pr perspective, that just plays into liberals hands 493 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: obviously that you say, like, this guy is not going 494 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: to sit down with George Stephanopoulos, but he has no 495 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: problem going on there, and it's not like you show 496 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: up and he didn't hold his feet to the fire 497 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: about anything. That was part of the controversy with Ronald 498 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: McDaniel getting hired at MSNBC. Now I said, I think 499 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: it's fair to hire her. She has a wealth of 500 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: knowledge that would be interesting for viewers. She knows how 501 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: it actually works. But when she's interviewed, asked her about 502 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: election denialism, that's the way you do it, Like, that's 503 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: why you work in journalism, that's why you have a platform. 504 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: But he can't really them, can't really say anything yet 505 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: because the vice president hasn't done anything. 506 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: You know, she she's got to do it, and I 507 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: think she will. I'm sure they're figuring out what venue 508 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: they think is the right one to start off. But 509 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: I imagine be you know, like a lesser Holt or 510 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: someone like that. 511 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to Well, no, I 512 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: think you should do some of that, But then you 513 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: should also go to the non traditional ones like yeah, 514 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: like Trump just did when he went, you know, he 515 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: went to the National Association of Broadcast Journalists. That was 516 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: different for him. 517 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: He would sat down with a very generous to say 518 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: that was different for him, it was. 519 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Different for all of us all that he went and 520 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: sat down with Aiden Ross that's a non traditional outlet 521 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: that has a big audience. I think she needed to 522 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: do a little bit of both. 523 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: Well, she's done little things like she was you know, 524 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: she did RuPaul's drag Race. She should definitely do sit Down. 525 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: And I think the fact that they are running this 526 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: very gen Z focused campaign. I mean, if you go 527 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: on TikTok, it's brat summer, you know, all over the place. 528 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: You know she will be doing things like that. And 529 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: I know that her team is working to harness all 530 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: of these big voices. I think Beyonce gave like four 531 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: million dollars. I thought so. But she's definitely going to 532 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: do an event and actually and she let her use 533 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: Freedom obviously as her song. So I'm sure you're going 534 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: to be seeing a lot of the big players. Taylor 535 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: Swift changed her bio and Instagram to something like just 536 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: a cat lady after jd Vance went after childless cat ladies. 537 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: You know there will be It's interesting to see because 538 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: this is kind of surpassing the usual democratic mojo. Like 539 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: we know people in Hollywood and entertainers tend to lean left, 540 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: but there seems to be a genuine enthusiasm for Kamala 541 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: that's different than just this is the ticket right like, 542 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: kind of as if it were Obama again. 543 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: Why did white women in Troo De sixteen vote against 544 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: their own interests by supporting Trump? And do you think 545 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: they'll make that same mistake again this year? 546 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: It upsets me to this day. I think I joined 547 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: and listened to a bit of the white women for 548 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: Harris Call and also the white dudes for Harris Call, 549 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of it was about that, and it's 550 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: just feelings of regret and remorse over not doing enough 551 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: or flat out voting the wrong way. Though this tended 552 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: to be a more liberal crowd, they changed course in 553 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. We didn't get Joe Biden because of the 554 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: usual court constituency. We got those white moderate women back 555 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: right in the suburbs of Atlanta, outside of Phoenix, et cetera. 556 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: I imagine they'll stay the course. I think the Dobbs 557 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: decision is so electrifying for people, and not just because 558 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, women want to be able to have abortion 559 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: on demand or whatever ridiculous right wing talking point there 560 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: would be, but because women know that after six weeks 561 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: you can't even get a heartbeat scan, or they know 562 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: how difficult a time they have had getting pregnant, or 563 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: that you know twenty five to three percent of women 564 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: are going to have a miscarriage in their lives, and 565 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: the majority of women who are getting an abortion are 566 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: people who've already had children. That it's part of family planning. 567 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: And I think that that's going to be a huge 568 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: issue for Democrats and one that keeps moderate white women 569 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: who might vote Republican if it was a Mitt Romney 570 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: or someone who seemed normal in all of this. 571 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: In the fold, what do you say to people who 572 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: feel like Fox shouldn't be allowed to host the debate 573 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: because they lost the dominion lawsuit. 574 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: I think it's silly. Bretta and Martha, who will be 575 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: the anchors for the debate and are our election night coverage, 576 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: are complete straight shooters. I mean, Brett Baar was the 577 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: last serious interview that Donald Trump did and he hasn't 578 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: done it again because Brett humiliated him so much. Remember 579 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 3: when he read all the quotes about what people are 580 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: saying about him, and he said, like, why does no 581 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: one want to work for you anymore? Right. Trump has 582 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: something like all of his high level staff, no one's 583 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: coming back. And they've written in memoirs and done interviews 584 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: speaking to you know, ideas of like can I just 585 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: go shoot protesters during the Black Lives Matter summer protests, 586 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: you know, talking about how veterans who get killed are 587 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: losers not wanting to go What was it in Normandy? 588 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: They didn't want to go to the graves of the 589 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: veterans because it was raining out, like things like that. 590 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: That's all coming out from people who worked for Donald Trump. 591 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: And Brett Baher was the one who really held his 592 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: feet to the fire about that. So I think it's silly. 593 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: I think the two things are completely unrelated. And you know, 594 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: I understand that there are folks who take issue with Fox. 595 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: It's part of what I think is important about showing 596 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: up and that I like that I do because people 597 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: get genuinely shocked. They're like, oh, this was going on 598 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: at Fox. I'm like, yeah, it's going on every single day, 599 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 3: you know, on the highest rated show on the network. 600 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would be good on CNN now and then 601 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, has they put both sides up there? Now? 602 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? I listen. I have great respect for everybody have 603 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: a lot of friends that work at the other networks. 604 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: I think that having never trumpers is not a real 605 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: reflection of the Republican Party because whether you like it 606 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: or not, or whatever you feel about him, it's Trump's party. 607 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, they do have folks who will show up 608 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: every once in a while that are supportive of Trump, 609 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: but they're not the diehards, right. It's not somebody who 610 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: saw something in Trump when he came down that golden 611 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: escalator and understood about you know, how he was speaking 612 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: at issues like immigration or how he's talking about the economy, 613 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: and that it really resonated. It seems more like political 614 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: operators to me than the genuine article. 615 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on JD. Vance? I know you mentioned 616 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: him a little earlier. What's your thoughts on him totally 617 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: switchsides like not a Trump supporter, disliking Trump, hating Trump, 618 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden Trump's his best friend. 619 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that? In ef fect that I 620 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: don't feel like we dive into that enough. 621 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: About Jdvans or just people in Jenety listen, I think 622 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: jad Vance was the absolute worst pick for VP for Trump, 623 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: and that doesn't mean that I think that Trump is 624 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: going to lose. I think probably even though the forecasts 625 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: are shifting, that he still has a structural advantage. So 626 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm putting that out there. But jd Vance was the 627 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: only choice that he had that doesn't really move the needle. 628 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: He doesn't have a different base than Trump. You know, 629 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: Trump was winning Ohio. Jd Vance underperformed Governor DeWine, the 630 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Republican governor there, I think by double digits. I think 631 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: that Trump, if he hadn't been shot, would not have 632 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: picked JD Vance. I think that the fact that Jade 633 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: Vance came out there and was the first person to 634 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: tweet that this was Joe Biden and the Democrat's fault 635 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: that he went with Jade Vance because he's like a 636 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: security blanket and he felt good to him, and he's 637 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: not a threat at all. Donald Trump just can't stand 638 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: anyone that feels threatening, and jdvans no one looks at 639 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: him and thinks he's presidential, you know. And I think 640 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: that that was also a miscalculation because now that people 641 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: do see Trump as the old guy, you are looking 642 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: to the vice president more than you would be, right. 643 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: So if he had someone at the RNC. I met 644 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: Glenn young Kin for the first time, the governor of Virginia. 645 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 3: I was blown away also by the fact that he's 646 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: six foot nine, which I did not know. Charming, very 647 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: policy oriented. The crowd loved his speech that he gave, 648 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: and all of my smart Republican friends were dying for 649 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: Trump to pick young Kin to at least moderate the 650 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: ticket a bit. You know, we all have friends that 651 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: live in New Jersey, live in a Virginia and have 652 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: had Republican governors and been just fine, and it would 653 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: have sent that kind of message. So jd Vance, I 654 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: think it sounds like from reporting that it was his 655 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: sons that were pressuring him to do it LinkedIn Dad, 656 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: pick my friend, pick my friend, and foundation, Well, they've 657 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: done a number with that one. They're like, oh, Project 658 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, we have nothing to do with it. 659 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: If one hundred former Trump officials are working. 660 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: On it Jade Vans as their pick, that's what they 661 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: want it totally. 662 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's because it's a blank slate. You 663 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: could do anything you want to him. I mean, someone 664 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: who would write a book like that, give the number 665 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: of interviews that he's done talking about Trump and you 666 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: know that he's maybe America's Hitler. I don't know how 667 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: you reverse course on that. I understand how you change 668 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: your mind about single payer healthcare. I don't understand how 669 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: you think that America's Hitler is what the country needs. 670 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: From calling him Hitler to giving them Hawk TWA. I 671 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: mean it's just like a full throat endorsement, okay. 672 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: This morning. I do love his wife though. I think 673 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: she's great and they should be using her more. Her speech, 674 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: her introduction of him at the R and C I 675 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: thought was fantastic. She's uber. I mean they're both uber smart. 676 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: You know, you don't get to Yale Law School being 677 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: a big dumb dumb. But they should be using her more, definitely. 678 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: But she she was a registered Democrat until twenty twenty two, 679 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: and she seems very uneasy with what's going on. I 680 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: can't imagine, Actually, if my husband woke up and was like, 681 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to go work for Donald Trump. 682 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: You said something, you said you think Trump is going 683 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: to win because he's more which just structured. 684 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: He has a structural advantage. 685 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: When you say structural advantage, what do you mean that 686 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: he has a bunch of Republicans across the country, who 687 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: probably won't rechoose the certified or results of the election, 688 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: and hettle help, and he's got the Supreme Court if 689 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: he challenges it. 690 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: You know, all of those things. But I just mean 691 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: the way the electoral college is. You know, Kama's favored 692 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: to win the popular vote. The Democrat basically always wins 693 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 3: a popular vote, and then we lose the electoral college. 694 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy how how far you have to 695 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: outperform the Republican if you're the Democrat in the you know, 696 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: one person, one vote standard to be able to win. 697 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: And so that's why I still think that he has 698 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: an advantage. And you know we're getting there in the 699 00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: enthusiasm gap, but Donald Trump's supporters are diehards in a 700 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: way that she has yet to build that kind of fervor. 701 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: You know that Obama twenty twelve. 702 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: That's why I don't like it at Tim Wall's pick. 703 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: That's why I feel like you can put another star 704 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: on the ticket the same way you said somebody like 705 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: Trump is, you know, scared to have somebody that can 706 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: outshine him. You gotta what you call him baristo Obama? 707 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: Would you call it? You gotta put barok Obama. You 708 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: gotta put Governor Josh pirout. He's another star. I feel 709 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: like that to me that that I'm not gonna say 710 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: it's so it locks things up, but I think that's 711 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: a better. 712 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt that the Trump team is happy 713 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: about this, you know, and any day that Republicans are 714 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: happy as a bad day for me. But I do 715 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: think that Tim Waltz will surprise and delight people in 716 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: a way that they're not expecting. 717 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: You know. 718 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: He has this America's Dad background, being a teacher and 719 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: a football coach. He flipped a conservative seat in Minnesota 720 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: in twenty and six when he entered Congress. One of 721 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: the stories that I I found the most engaging and 722 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: just very sweet his daughter came to him. I think 723 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: it was after the Parkland shooting and he had an 724 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: A rating from the NRA, and she said, Dad, we 725 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: guns are the problem here. You know, it's always the guns. 726 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: Now he has an F rating from the NRA. He 727 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: is someone who's willing to listen to people to change 728 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: his mind. He has apologized going back to the point 729 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: that you made about how many Apolis was handled in 730 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: the wake of George Floyd's murder he's said it was 731 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: an abject failure. And this election with both Kamala and 732 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: Tim Wallas, I think will be a lot about whether 733 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: people are willing to accept apologies for things and to 734 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: accept that folks have evolved. And going back to your 735 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: point that we have to keep talking about the threat 736 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: to democracy and all of it, those two people are 737 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 3: the ones standing in the way of Donald Trump and 738 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 3: that's what it comes down to. Yeah, and that's you know, 739 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: got to be the chorus in all of this until 740 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 3: November fifth. 741 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: That's gonna be interesting. Made me think about something because 742 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I said, I said that they were going 743 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: to start pointing a finger at him in regards to 744 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: the aftermath of George Floyd. But if they start saying 745 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: he was a guy that like cops do whatever on 746 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: top of already you know Peyton commonly the top cop. 747 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: That's not gonna play well on social media. 748 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: No, It's it's weird because it matters so much, and 749 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: I feel like it has, especially for Kamala, changed the 750 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: course of the last two weeks kind of the love 751 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: that she's been getting. But at the end of the day, 752 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 3: those aren't the tried and true voters, you know, we 753 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: didn't have Joe Biden as president because of social media. 754 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: We had Joe Biden as president because jen X and 755 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: Boomer black people showed up at the polls. So it's not, 756 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, the vibes aren't real life. And we'll have 757 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: to see how that plays out. But a lot of 758 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 3: these kids that are posting about Gaza or you know, 759 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: are into brat summer right now, and then you know, 760 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 3: will fall out of love with her over whatever stance 761 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 3: she's taking, or they just find out that she's actually 762 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: a prosecutor. They put a lot of people behind bars. 763 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: Were they going to vote anyway? I'm not completely sure. 764 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 765 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining us. 766 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: How can you find you because, like you said, you're 767 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: not on social leg. 768 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: Then I'm on Twitter, which I know no one wants 769 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 3: to be around. But you could watch The Five, which 770 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: is five o'clock on Fox News channel. 771 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: And I don't care. You have your own podcast is 772 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: something I'm. 773 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: Working on it. Yeah, I'd love to do that. And yeah, 774 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 3: thank you guys so much for having me. 775 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for coming. All right, you can catch 776 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: you on the Five, Like she said, Jessica tar Loaf 777 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: and a tarlof a tar. 778 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: Love, tarlove. 779 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: All of it is good, okay yet the breakfast Club, 780 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: Good morning. 781 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club