Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, well,
Speaker 1: it was a fun weekend. Even though the Dolphins did
Speaker 1: not play football over the weekend, we got to watch
Speaker 1: plenty of football and I got lots of time with
Speaker 1: the family. Hey, Sundays off in January in South Florida.
Speaker 1: I know nobody wants to hear this, but they ain't
Speaker 1: all bad. We'll talk about which incumbents on the Dolphins
Speaker 1: roster can stand to make this team better next year
Speaker 1: that are not impact players right now, We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the weekend that was in wild card weekend, and I'll
Speaker 1: hit you guys with mock off season one point zero.
Speaker 1: And this is like the crudest one we'll do because
Speaker 1: I haven't even come close to completing my film study
Speaker 1: on all the prospects and freegans to be. So we'll
Speaker 1: do that to kick off the off season here for
Speaker 1: you guys, and I think Wednesday will get into the
Speaker 1: position by a position review as we head into the
Speaker 1: off season. From the Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist
Speaker 1: Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: Ye so yeah again, the reason I mentioned how nice
Speaker 1: it is to have a Sunday off this time of
Speaker 1: year in South Florida. So a lot of you probably
Speaker 1: are from here, a lot of you probably are not
Speaker 1: from here. But we bear really like seven or maybe
Speaker 1: eight months of kind of hell, like the heat down here.
Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty unenjoyable for most of the year. But
Speaker 1: there's like a four month window where we have the
Speaker 1: best weather on the planet where it's like sixty to
Speaker 1: seventy degrees really all day every day, sometimes up to
Speaker 1: seventy five eighty, maybe a little bit blowout in the
Speaker 1: certain cold fronts. But took the kids to a world
Speaker 1: of beer. We live like right across from this huge
Speaker 1: commercial complex full of restaurants, and it has like hewey magoos,
Speaker 1: It has duck Donuts, it has Bubbakups, it has Zuru Ramen.
Speaker 1: There's a dumpling panda in there. There's a flan Agains,
Speaker 1: there's a five guys I get my haircut over there.
Speaker 1: There's a casino Maderna. We walked over there before the
Speaker 1: Broncos and Bill's game, and the kids were just happy
Speaker 1: as can be. Daughter riding the scooter and got a
Speaker 1: brunch burger from World of Beer, which is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite burgers there is in South Florida, which I
Speaker 1: know World of Beer is a chain, but you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm weak, but yeah, man, it was just a really
Speaker 1: nice kind of dial things back. And that was despite
Speaker 1: being sick too, So I hope your weekends were as
Speaker 1: good as mine. And I didn't realize this as I
Speaker 1: was doing it. I always talk about the playoff games
Speaker 1: here on the show, but I was taking notes pretty
Speaker 1: heavily throughout each of those games and trying to find
Speaker 1: ways to tie what you were seeing on the field
Speaker 1: back to the Miami Dolphins, as we do this time
Speaker 1: of year for every single playoff round, or I should
Speaker 1: say every year this time of year. And you know,
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we had wild card games
Speaker 1: of our own to recap and that would give us
Speaker 1: another week of content. But now I have the full
Speaker 1: wild card slate for the first time since twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one to break down and look at it through a
Speaker 1: dolphin's lens. And I'm sitting there taking these extensive notes,
Speaker 1: fighting some congestion and in between, you know, playing with
Speaker 1: my daughter and my son. I taught my daughter this dap,
Speaker 1: you know, the tap up where you go high low,
Speaker 1: low high, then you pound it afterwards.
Speaker 2: Pretty excited about that development.
Speaker 1: But as I'm doing all this, I'm like, man, I
Speaker 1: have like a lot of freaking notes here. I just
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of just wrote a podcast script.
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about some of the takeaways
Speaker 1: I have for you guys. And first, just off the
Speaker 1: top four and one so far, we'll have the Rams
Speaker 1: and Vikings tonight. I'm excited to watch that ball game
Speaker 1: that brings us to one hundred and one or two
Speaker 1: hundred and one wins this year, two hundred and one
Speaker 1: and seventy six overall. We took the Texans, we took
Speaker 1: the Ravens, we took the Bills, We did take the
Speaker 1: Packers wamp wamp and took the Commanders in that really
Speaker 1: fun game that kind of save what was otherwise a
Speaker 1: boring weekend. However, all of that said will be about
Speaker 1: four minutes into the show here. All for a preamble
Speaker 1: is to number one. First off the top, A man,
Speaker 1: how great was that first game?
Speaker 2: How great was that?
Speaker 1: Dude? I was like a pig inn s, if you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, watching everybody's favorite quarterback.
Speaker 2: Except for the Dolphins fans.
Speaker 1: And look like I even told someone of this on
Speaker 1: Twitter or whatever social media platform was. I forget, probably
Speaker 1: probably Blue Sky about how I don't even think Herbert
Speaker 1: is a bad quarterback. I probably sound like that because
Speaker 1: I have basically made myself on that platform into the
Speaker 1: counter to what people do with Tua, which I think
Speaker 1: is completely unfair. And that's why I go so hard
Speaker 1: on the guy, and I do think he's vastly overrated.
Speaker 1: I have clips on my Twitter from back when I
Speaker 1: used to do this stuff where I would clip, you know,
Speaker 1: watch every single college prospect every weekend and put clips
Speaker 1: on Twitter. And that's kind of how I got popular
Speaker 1: in the first place. And you know, trying to do
Speaker 1: more of that on Blue Sky. But I would do
Speaker 1: the clips of college quarterbacks, not twenty nineteen quarterback class
Speaker 1: or twenty twenty quarterback class, I should say. And I'll
Speaker 1: never forget the Arizon State game when Justin Herbert had
Speaker 1: big moment on top of big moment against the Herm
Speaker 1: Edwards defense that clowned him. And that was kind of
Speaker 1: what he was in all those big games. And that's
Speaker 1: what he's been for the Chargers. No One seems to remember.
Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty one. They were playing at the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. This is when the like the David Colvey
Speaker 1: Houston Texans right, a team that won three or four
Speaker 1: games and was happy to win three or four games,
Speaker 1: and he threw a stinker, had a bad pick six
Speaker 1: in that game. I remember watching because I was on
Speaker 1: the plane ride back from my hometown and we were
Speaker 1: playing the Saints on Monday night the next night, and
Speaker 1: the Dolphins needed a Chargers loss in that spot, and
Speaker 1: the Patriots I think needed to lose a game and
Speaker 1: they did to the Buffalo Bills. And it was a
Speaker 1: really good plane ride watching those games transpire, and like,
Speaker 1: that's who he's been, and that's what he was in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: He doesn't see defense as well. You know, let's actually.
Speaker 1: Go let's get into all this first, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to just make this justin Herbert podcast, but Chargers
Speaker 1: Texans to kick things off here. Look, my first takeaway
Speaker 1: was that you can't not have weapons unless you're Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, because Josh Allen just went
Speaker 1: rough shot again in the wild card round without having
Speaker 1: really any star talent around him in terms of skill players.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson just feasted on the freaking moribund Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: without Jay Flowers and then Patrick Mahomes the last couple
Speaker 1: of years has won super Bowls without you know, well,
Speaker 1: he's got Travis Kelcey, but now he's got just the
Speaker 1: corpse of Kelsey and nothing else much around him besides well,
Speaker 1: I guess Rashid Rice was there, Hollywood Brown is now
Speaker 1: there and Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2: But in the past he's done it right.
Speaker 1: He's proven that it's the old Tom Brady with Rashe
Speaker 1: Caldwell and freaking you know, Troy Brown is a good player.
Speaker 2: But you get the point.
Speaker 1: These elite, elite quarterbacks can survive not having weapons. C J.
Speaker 1: Stroud and Justin Herbert cannot. That's the takeaway. And neither
Speaker 1: could tow a tongue bai looa. This is what the
Speaker 1: second tier quarterbacks look like without weapons. I mean, to
Speaker 1: a people thought that he couldn't play the position because
Speaker 1: when he had Isaiah Ford and DeVante Parker and Mike
Speaker 1: Kasicki's his top weapons, it didn't look as good. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can separate the individual, and I always thought too
Speaker 1: like made that offense, you know, basically at an FCS
Speaker 1: offense functional, but especially in the case here with the Chargers,
Speaker 1: where this quarterback has to see it in order to
Speaker 1: throw it. I don't know who the hell's telling you people,
Speaker 1: you people that this guy is like an elite processor
Speaker 1: and anticipator.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I never have gotten that. That's why I didn't like
Speaker 1: his game. You guys know how I roll. That's the
Speaker 1: number one thing to me with quarterbacks. There's a reason
Speaker 1: why I thought he was overrated. He threw two balls
Speaker 1: in the first half where his arm was hit as
Speaker 1: he threw. And that's another deficiency where he doesn't sense
Speaker 1: or prepare or move or feel pressure like he's got.
Speaker 1: He is really good when he does. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of Ryan Tannehill. It's he's when he can get out
Speaker 1: and get on a straight line, it's very good.
Speaker 2: He's very fast.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to like quick movements in the
Speaker 1: pocket and sensing things, he doesn't do that. And the
Speaker 1: Texans had six passes defense in the first half, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking like this is gonna turn bad
Speaker 1: for him because he keeps on throwing these balls into
Speaker 1: these windows that are not there. The ball keeps getting
Speaker 1: tipped up into the air and he's throwing them late,
Speaker 1: and that's why he's getting these pds. I also note
Speaker 1: the something you can take away from this game from
Speaker 1: a Dolphins perspective. You gotta have temperature changing defenders. Man
Speaker 1: watch the way. And this might be too late, you know,
Speaker 1: after the game's already occurred, but if you guys were
Speaker 1: watching it with great detail, Kamari Lassiter and Kaylen Bullock
Speaker 1: are dogs man, young players, hungry players coming off pile,
Speaker 1: slapping their heads like Jalen Waddle does me he makes
Speaker 1: a big catch like this me just me absolute psycho pass.
Speaker 1: You have to have that. And the Dolphins I thought
Speaker 1: lacked that outside of like Jordan Brooks and Zach Seeler
Speaker 1: and like don't I don't want to get into like
Speaker 1: telling who was not a dog, but we don't. We
Speaker 1: just didn't have enough, right because there's there are guys
Speaker 1: in this team that are like that, but there just
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. Like look at Derwin James, you know, or
Speaker 1: Dayone Henley for the Chargers on the other side, same
Speaker 1: exact thing. The Chargers average three point seven yards per
Speaker 1: play in the first half of that game.
Speaker 2: CJ. Stroud didn't look good for most of the game.
Speaker 1: Nico Collins kind of came to life and he was
Speaker 1: able to hit some of those inbreaking you know, rpo hits.
Speaker 1: But by and large, these are two teams that the
Speaker 1: doll they're not any better than the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: And look, we were bad this year.
Speaker 1: I thought there was too many new things that came
Speaker 1: up for the Dolphins this year that we just were
Speaker 1: not acceptable. And then the quarterback misses six games, which
Speaker 1: is really the only difference between us being in this
Speaker 1: game versus those two teams being in this game. But
Speaker 1: this is a clear indicator. We'll get to the other
Speaker 1: two AFC games here in just a second. There's three
Speaker 1: teams in the AFC and then everybody else like that.
Speaker 2: That's just how it is.
Speaker 1: And we are in that everybody else category until we
Speaker 1: prove otherwise. And last year we were near the top
Speaker 1: of that everybody else category, I felt, but we still
Speaker 1: were in the everybody else category. But that's why I
Speaker 1: think this whole like, oh, you gotta tear it down
Speaker 1: and start over it, Like no, that's how the conference
Speaker 1: works right now? Man, are the Chargers gonna tear it
Speaker 1: down and restart. No, they're not going to will the
Speaker 1: Texans after they get shellacked next week by the Chiefs. No,
Speaker 1: they're not going to do that because you can either
Speaker 1: be the Chiefs and the Chargers or the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three Dolphins, or you can be the Cleveland Browns or
Speaker 1: the New York Jets or the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, something else.
Speaker 1: That is sticking in my craw this weekend is all
Speaker 1: like there is a huge faction of Dolphins fans on
Speaker 1: social media who only tweet their misery.
Speaker 2: Well, Mike Rabels in the AFC East, now we better
Speaker 2: go cry, like what are you doing? Dude?
Speaker 1: They won four games last year. Your quarterback is seven
Speaker 1: and zer against that team. I know Mike Rabel is
Speaker 1: a good coach. I think he's a great coach. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be do really well in New England.
Speaker 1: I think Drake May has a chance to be pretty good.
Speaker 1: But that's the worst roster in the NFL by far.
Speaker 2: So what are we doing? Like, do something else? Man?
Speaker 1: If this just makes you miserable, I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna be just fine, Like the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. Now they're not gonna be Buffalo,
Speaker 1: then why say you're just fine. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: like winning championship, but they're not gonna like fall back
Speaker 1: into the basement. They have too good of a quarterback
Speaker 1: for that situation to happen. So those are some takeaways there.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert four picks, his passer rating was less than
Speaker 1: a half of what two was was. I guess the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, So better start the segments talking about how
Speaker 1: the Chargers have to change quarterbacks, right. Ravens and Steelers
Speaker 1: game was was pretty one sided. The Steelers were always frauds.
Speaker 2: We knew that.
Speaker 1: You knew that if you're a drive time fan. But man,
Speaker 1: they were just going through the motions back there. They
Speaker 1: had some you know some There was some unsavory comments
Speaker 1: coming out during their losing streak from players talking about
Speaker 1: effort level and who's in it and who's not. And that
Speaker 1: was just a ship that was sinking very very fast.
Speaker 1: And it reminds me of this debate about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1: One of my my buddies, John Ledyard is he runs
Speaker 1: a Steelers podcast. He used to work for Peter Report
Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers. He's one of the original Draft Network founders.
Speaker 1: He is very adamant that Mike Tomlin is a very
Speaker 1: overrated head coach. And I saw him debating some people,
Speaker 1: some some you know, uh, who was it, Dan Orlovsky, No,
Speaker 1: it was It was so many big at ESPN that
Speaker 1: he was going back and forth with and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kinda I kind of see it, are great Rosenthals,
Speaker 1: he it was, and they were like, yeah, I kind
Speaker 1: of see it that way too. And it's just like
Speaker 1: this elite mediocrity does that track for you guys, Like
Speaker 1: they're a team that they're gonna be in that second
Speaker 1: tech that tier of well I just talked about Chargers, Texans,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Dolphins, but they're not at the top
Speaker 1: of that tier and they're never going to break through
Speaker 1: into the next category until they find themselves a big
Speaker 1: time quarterback. When they had a big time quarterback, it
Speaker 1: was big Ben Roethlisberger, and they their last championship was
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, and so you know, I
Speaker 1: don't I would love to have a Mike Tomlin. I
Speaker 1: think a program disciplinarian like that, a program center who
Speaker 1: is a disciplinarian is a good thing to have in
Speaker 1: your building. But this Steelers team, man, I'm glad we
Speaker 1: get them next year. I would like to to prove
Speaker 1: that fraud fraudulentce is that word from the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: So that was the big takeaways. That game was never
Speaker 1: going to be close.
Speaker 2: JT.
Speaker 1: Santo saw a great videographer here who went to the
Speaker 1: Ravens last season or this season. I was texting him
Speaker 1: and he doesn't like it when I jinxed his teams
Speaker 1: and I was like, you guys, go win that game
Speaker 1: by three touchdowns. And I'm kind of mad that they
Speaker 1: kneeled the ball inside of ten yard line under a
Speaker 1: minute to go. That could have made it a three
Speaker 1: touchdown game. But that's just for my own vanity purposes.
Speaker 1: And then with the Ravens, like Lamar is just as
Speaker 1: good as anybody. And remember, like I want everybody to
Speaker 1: remember right now, what the narrative is on Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Sixteen points per game in the playoffs, he six in
Speaker 1: the six games, he's like two and four. Whatever the
Speaker 1: record is, Just wait what he's twenty seven, twenty eight.
Speaker 1: It's all gonna end this year and no one's gonna
Speaker 1: care about that, and that's something I think everyone should
Speaker 1: keep an eye on because we're gonna talk about Jordan
Speaker 1: Love and we talked about Justin Herbert and obviously two
Speaker 1: was in that category. Now there's a lot of really
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks that haven't had playoff success because guess what,
Speaker 1: it's really really hard to win at this stage. It's
Speaker 1: I mean, the wildcard round often comes down to your draw.
Speaker 2: Who you got.
Speaker 1: You know, we got the Chiefs, we got the world
Speaker 1: champs and minus twenty five degree with their last year,
Speaker 1: you know, bad draw there and the Broncos and Bill's
Speaker 1: game I have. This is where my notes kind of
Speaker 1: got more extensive. The Broncos. I thought, actually, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and take our break right there, come back and
Speaker 1: do the other games on the other side. That's next
Speaker 1: Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Auto Nation. So Broncos and Bill's turned into a laugher,
Speaker 1: weird surprise, Shocked, couldn't believe it. I did think it
Speaker 1: was impressive how the Broncos stole that possession in the
Speaker 1: first half with a fake punt against a team where
Speaker 1: it's like fourth and medium at around midfield. Kind of
Speaker 1: a house money game, and you weren't aware of like
Speaker 1: a possible route from your gunner against a what you
Speaker 1: call the jammer, the guys who play on the outside
Speaker 1: against those gunners. I thought that was kind of strange,
Speaker 1: but I just noted that in this time of year,
Speaker 1: you know, the margins get tighter, creating short fields, and
Speaker 1: special teams plays can make the difference. And it got
Speaker 1: me thinking about the Dolphins and like, in each of
Speaker 1: our narrow losses to the Buffalo Bills, you're really just
Speaker 1: one special teams play away, right, And go figure that
Speaker 1: in two of those last three games they had against
Speaker 1: us where they narrowly beat us, what do they get
Speaker 1: besides was it a ninety four yard Deontay Hardy punt
Speaker 1: return touchdown when Cameron Good was in the gap to
Speaker 1: make a play and then his leg blew up. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't laugh, it's it's tragedy or
Speaker 1: whatever they say.
Speaker 2: And then how about the other one? Is a sixty
Speaker 2: one yard field goal to win a game? You know?
Speaker 1: Like it just if you can generate a splash play
Speaker 1: on special teams, it can swing these these big games.
Speaker 1: And for years, the Dolphins special teams have ranked bottom three,
Speaker 1: four five of the league. And what was the last
Speaker 1: you know, splash team we had a special team. But
Speaker 1: the last time we had a splash play on special
Speaker 1: teams was the Jets game, and you won that game
Speaker 1: because you got that splash play. Most likely, if you
Speaker 1: get a splash play against the Cardinals, against the Bills,
Speaker 1: against the Colts, you would have won those games and
Speaker 1: you'd be playing right now, or maybe you would have
Speaker 1: played this past weekend. So you know, the news that
Speaker 1: came across that Danny Crossman and both Wes Welker were
Speaker 1: let go. The Danny cross won. You know, I love coach,
Speaker 1: he was a really really good dude, But that seemed
Speaker 1: like it was long, long, long overdue. And I think
Speaker 1: the last big special teams play we made, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't count a muff punt against the Titans last
Speaker 1: year on Monday Night, was the blocked punt that Andrew
Speaker 1: van ginkl Jalen Phillips block punt touchdown return against the
Speaker 1: Bears in twenty twenty two. I think it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you can get those in big games,
Speaker 1: it could separate you in tight, close games. So I
Speaker 1: also noted that in these big time games, which playoff
Speaker 1: games or you know, must win regular season games, teams
Speaker 1: typically make mistakes early. To me, it's about managing those mistakes,
Speaker 1: weathering the storm, and then capitalizing when the other team
Speaker 1: makes the mistake because we in the first quarter of
Speaker 1: those games put ourselves behind the eight ball and have
Speaker 1: to play catch up the rest of the game. It
Speaker 1: happened all year last year, in that Eagles game, in
Speaker 1: that Chiefs game, in the Bills game, they scored on
Speaker 1: the opening their opening drive after to or through a pick.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's just that same formula, and we
Speaker 1: got to find a way to start faster and to
Speaker 1: be prepared coming into the game rather than have to
Speaker 1: take a quarter to quarter and a half two quarters
Speaker 1: to settle into a football game. I think I think
Speaker 1: to do that, I think Miami has to find a
Speaker 1: way to emulate difficult situations because the thing I just
Speaker 1: talked about is an element of being a tough football team.
Speaker 1: You know, we used to get that in training camp
Speaker 1: with the weather. It was brutal. It was nobody wanted
Speaker 1: to practice in Miami. And while I think that too,
Speaker 1: a day's for twenty one straight days is a good
Speaker 1: way to manufacture your own December swoons.
Speaker 2: Right, those are only two thousands football teams.
Speaker 1: We can do a hell of a lot more than
Speaker 1: what we've been doing with all these you know, vet
Speaker 1: rest days and hour and forty minute practices, where if
Speaker 1: we do what we're supposed to do, we can get
Speaker 1: out of the early like no, strain a little bit
Speaker 1: and make it harder on yourself. That was my big
Speaker 1: takeaway from how just these these little fine margins can
Speaker 1: make a difference, not in this round so much because
Speaker 1: there were so many mismatches, but you'll see that going
Speaker 1: forward and the Ravens and Bills game friends, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna see plenty of that. I also noted that the
Speaker 1: Broncos is a good job early and this is funny
Speaker 1: to say this for a quarterback that had a perfect
Speaker 1: passer rating their their cage concept. Rushing Josh was how
Speaker 1: you have to do it. And basically your ends will
Speaker 1: basically rush the upfield shoulder of the tackle and try
Speaker 1: to close back in, but they're gonna they want to
Speaker 1: be on the upfield shoulder of the quarterback, and you
Speaker 1: want your defensive tackles to push the pocket, but stay
Speaker 1: and phase with with their rush, with their blocker, and
Speaker 1: with the quarterback, and it's it basically is designed to
Speaker 1: make that quarterback stay in the pocket and play from
Speaker 1: that position. And there's I'm gonna start put more stuff
Speaker 1: on bluees guy, think about educational stuff. And there's a
Speaker 1: great article about what cage the cage concept is, like,
Speaker 1: go ahead and throw up on blue Sky. But it
Speaker 1: got me thinking about how each of the last three
Speaker 1: games he played against the Buffalo Bills, we didn't have
Speaker 1: Chubb or Phillips and we didn't have Zach Seeler for
Speaker 1: one of them. But the last time we did have
Speaker 1: all three of them, we lost and s gave up
Speaker 1: forty eight points. That was just really funny. My last
Speaker 1: note here was you will not beat Josh Allen in
Speaker 1: a defensive struggle. He may slump for a quarter two
Speaker 1: if you're lucky, but you will not shut him out
Speaker 1: for sixty minutes. You have to do a lot more,
Speaker 1: way more than what the Broncos offense saved. But rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: inexperienced team that was probably given Packers and Eagles. You know,
Speaker 1: first off, Vic Fangio, I hate saying this, but he
Speaker 1: was right. I mean he was right. It's a tough
Speaker 1: pill to swallow about what he saw and what he
Speaker 1: wanted to get away from here. And of course his
Speaker 1: head was always in phillies, so I kind of hate
Speaker 1: him for that. But he was right about his evaluations here,
Speaker 1: just about the personnel, but about the way, you know,
Speaker 1: the way things were, you know, party boys and everything
Speaker 1: he talked about was not a winning culture at least
Speaker 1: what he observed. What he say this year play out
Speaker 1: with you know, late to meetings and lack of accountability.
Speaker 1: The coach and the GM told you as much. Now
Speaker 1: they have a chance to change it, but they have
Speaker 1: to take ownership of that. Now is back to this game.
Speaker 1: Putting that quarterback in a blender was really impressive. Jordan
Speaker 1: Love was terrible in this game, and they had him confused.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I also noted that Tucker Craft ran two tight end sneaks.
Speaker 1: We really got to find a way to make third
Speaker 1: and one or less an auto convert. And I realize
Speaker 1: that our quarterback limits our options in that sense. But
Speaker 1: Durham Smith and the sneak a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: It's why I'm pro a Trey Lance or a Justin
Speaker 1: Fields or a Jalen Milroe to develop their skill set
Speaker 1: as a quarterback but also be a third and one
Speaker 1: option off the bench in the running game. I just
Speaker 1: feel like you have to find a way to get
Speaker 1: those conversions because these teams can do that. We really
Speaker 1: struggle on those third and one situations. And I think
Speaker 1: it's the quarterback more than anything else. It isn't just
Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Eagles. And when you see
Speaker 1: this too, because you're gonna see all these teams built
Speaker 1: in the trenches. Like this year that might be the case,
Speaker 1: but in years past, the Niners, the Bengals, you know,
Speaker 1: teams with banged up, bad offensive lines have gone deep.
Speaker 1: So I hate when everyone's like this is what you
Speaker 1: have to do to be a championship team. It changes
Speaker 1: literally every single year. What the Eagles are. Yes, they
Speaker 1: are a great offensive line. They're just a really good
Speaker 1: team that can morph and beat you whatever kind of
Speaker 1: game you want to play. They have enough winning plays
Speaker 1: to beat you. And then I this is the last
Speaker 1: two notes here, I'm gonna this is gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: delve into the Bucks and Commander's game. I love what
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Matt Lafleura have done and the packers got
Speaker 1: their butts handed to them. But what they've done to
Speaker 1: add a power comp component to an offense that's very
Speaker 1: similar to ours.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: You know you have the vertical and horizontal stretch where
Speaker 1: you run these vertical routes, you have deep crossing routes.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to expand the defense in multiple ways, defend
Speaker 1: every blade of grass. And wouldn't it make sense because
Speaker 1: you're getting them running vertically, you're getting them running horizontally,
Speaker 1: but also that vertical drop they're playing on their heel, right,
Speaker 1: So what would pair better to that than having a
Speaker 1: downhill freight tram like a Josh Jacobs or like a
Speaker 1: Kyne Williams or you know whatever.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: You know, Christian McCaffrey is definitely good enough to be
Speaker 1: in that category. He can do whatever you want him
Speaker 1: to do, But he's a unicorn in a back and
Speaker 1: I don't expect you to get that type of talent.
Speaker 1: But like a big, bruising, punishing back that can run
Speaker 1: inside zone, that can run counter, that can run you know,
Speaker 1: gap and power, I think it's I think it's very
Speaker 1: very important that Dolphins make that punt that counter this
Speaker 1: year We'll talk more about that here in just the
Speaker 1: next in the next Game.
Speaker 2: I do want to do this on a future podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it right NOWX don't have time
Speaker 1: to get into it, but I'd be curious to see
Speaker 1: the records of quarterbacks like age maybe twenty seven and
Speaker 1: below in the playoffs, because Justin Herbert doesn't have a
Speaker 1: playoff win yet, and Jordan Love is one and two
Speaker 1: and just got his butt kicked butt kicked, and the
Speaker 1: talking points around those players are gonna be probably harsher
Speaker 1: than they should be, which is just how I feel
Speaker 1: about this stuff in general. Last game, Bucks and Commanders,
Speaker 1: and this is the biggest point I wanted to make
Speaker 1: of the entire thing that pairs off of that that
Speaker 1: Lafleur and McVeigh comment. The Bucks went from last last
Speaker 1: year and rushing yards per attempt and rushing yards per
Speaker 1: game this year. They they were third and fourth in
Speaker 1: the NFL in those categories, and the only changes were
Speaker 1: at center, where they replaced Ryan Jensen, who was like
Speaker 1: not even not Hall of Fame, but he's all very good,
Speaker 1: who was injured in the last couple of years. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily Ryan Jensen, but they replaced him with
Speaker 1: Graham Barton, a rookie. They took him the first round, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, all these fans that think that they
Speaker 1: know more than the team, like Chop Robinson's a better
Speaker 1: draft pick than Graham Barton, bar nun so shut up
Speaker 1: about that. And then a fifth round rookie running back
Speaker 1: in Bucky Irving, who was the best rookie running back
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So that's kind of a slight to
Speaker 1: him to call him that, but it is what he was.
Speaker 1: The real change was incorporating counter to a wide zone scheme.
Speaker 1: You heard Chris collins Worth talk about it all night long.
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, their offensive coordinator, said it was because the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman they had were good at it, so they
Speaker 1: incorporated it. And we're able to get to six seven
Speaker 1: different versions of counter to go off of that wide
Speaker 1: zone game, and you could see the way it creates
Speaker 1: leverage advantages and get that speed to the perimeter for
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving, like, it's a beautiful way to do it.
Speaker 1: And they have those different variations and they just kept
Speaker 1: getting better at it as they worked at it and
Speaker 1: went along. So the Dolphins have to find a way
Speaker 1: to become a team that can do that, a team
Speaker 1: that can be fungible in the running game, attack and
Speaker 1: approach things differently when things are going your way. Also,
Speaker 1: I just love the commander's fourth down approach in that game, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: if we get down here twice and we go for
Speaker 1: it both times and miss once, that's seven points. That's
Speaker 1: more than kicking two field goals. I like the math
Speaker 1: on that as a notorious not a math guy. And
Speaker 1: then my last point, Diami Brown was on my free
Speaker 1: agent list of guys I'm interested in. After watching that game,
Speaker 1: he vaults very high to the top of that list.
Speaker 1: He fits the Crabs Moniker Young hungry. First contract didn't
Speaker 1: go how you wanted it to. Now you have something
Speaker 1: to prove in the second contract. Diami Brown would make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense, I think for a receiver. Here
Speaker 1: for your Miami Dolphins last break right there, we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back and talk about the incumbents and the guys,
Speaker 1: the unproven players on the roster who could shore up
Speaker 1: needs that you have. Will also do our first mock
Speaker 1: off season all that next Draft Time podcast, your host
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Speaker 2: Life, really really really good.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and close the podcast up here,
Speaker 1: unproven players on the roster who could shore up needs.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do this my biggest need, but man,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of positions of need that don't
Speaker 1: really have it. I mean, you know, I suppose this
Speaker 1: is going to be contradictory, and it's always kind of
Speaker 1: fascinating to me how a player arrives. We talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, their work all spring, all summer, then they
Speaker 1: go on the practice squad for the entire year and
Speaker 1: become completely forgotten about. Like my example is Andrew Meyer,
Speaker 1: who's actually not even a practice squad guy. He's on
Speaker 1: the roster. Does anybody remember that. I know, Chris greerminded
Speaker 1: you of that. He's been an active all year, but
Speaker 1: that obviously tells you something, right, They don't want to
Speaker 1: open him up to the risk of becoming available on
Speaker 1: the open market. And as much as I liked his
Speaker 1: camp and preseason tape, like this is a UTEP kid
Speaker 1: who has zero NFL snaps? Are you really going to
Speaker 1: take me seriously if I tell you that he's a
Speaker 1: solution on the interior of the offensive line, No, you're not.
Speaker 1: But if I give you Patrick McMorris, you probably think, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course he was a draft pick and he had
Speaker 1: tangible tape in the preseason. Spoiler, he's going to be
Speaker 1: in this list. So let's look at the incumbents here.
Speaker 1: You will get no greater boost to your roster than
Speaker 1: hitting on these guys. And look, I still think that
Speaker 1: Greer has done a really good job with draft picks early.
Speaker 1: He's done a good job getting free agents here. I
Speaker 1: think he's done brilliantly in the execution of trades. Now,
Speaker 1: where you can knock the lopsidness of this roster, you
Speaker 1: can certainly drill the middle rounds that have been well
Speaker 1: a dearth for you quite frankly really since the whole
Speaker 1: thing began. Which is funny to me because you used
Speaker 1: to be able to set your watch to guys like
Speaker 1: you know, Rashad Jones, the original fifth rounder, Bobby McCain,
Speaker 1: Andrew van Ginkel. Hell, even brief contributors like Tony Lippett
Speaker 1: and Jay a Jay, But I will agree that Cam Smith,
Speaker 1: Channing Tyndall, Eric Azukama, those were major, major, major misses.
Speaker 1: You're never going to bat a thousand, But imagine if
Speaker 1: those picks, who are all in the range of guys
Speaker 1: you expect to contribute right, second, third, fourth round, if
Speaker 1: they worked out, we would have had a solid backup
Speaker 1: in a position that has endured plenty of injuries. With
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room and Eric Azuokama. Lord knows we
Speaker 1: needed the number two linebacker for a while now. Channing
Speaker 1: Tyndall and Cam Smith sure would have been nice to
Speaker 1: have the contributor out there with all the games that
Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller missed this year. But that's where this team
Speaker 1: has missed development of mid round picks and late rounders alike.
Speaker 1: To give you cheap depth, we've had to sign depth
Speaker 1: at the cost of Saran Neil. I mean, Jordan Poyer
Speaker 1: is a starter OBJ at receiver. For depth, I think
Speaker 1: you get what I'm getting at here. So ahead of
Speaker 1: a bunch of draft picks on Day two and Day three,
Speaker 1: you have this year, which by the way, you have
Speaker 1: one in the first round, one the second round, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have one in the third round. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: two in the fourth round because the Christian Wilkins compick
Speaker 1: is gonna drop back to the fourth round because he
Speaker 1: didn't play twenty five percent of the of his snaps
Speaker 1: this year. What a dumb rule. They still get him,
Speaker 1: We still lost him. Why does that matter? I hate
Speaker 1: that rule? And then two picks in the fifth round,
Speaker 1: no picks in the sixth round, and then three picks
Speaker 1: in the seventh round.
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So you look at that and I kind of hope
Speaker 1: they can find a way to add a couple more.
Speaker 1: I think they need to go into this draft with
Speaker 1: a lot of picks to execute a successful draft while
Speaker 1: batting four hundred, because that's a reasonable expectation. And if
Speaker 1: you go seven hundred, that's awesome, that's even better, obviously,
Speaker 1: But I'd like to protect myself with multiple picks, and
Speaker 1: that's probably the best executed by going back in round
Speaker 1: one and getting more picks. That's getting further into the weeds.
Speaker 1: Before that, we will have guys that will have been
Speaker 1: in the program that you have that you hope can
Speaker 1: take a year two or year three jump the way
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson did versus what Leam Mikenberg didn't do right.
Speaker 1: But see that there is emblematic of the issue this
Speaker 1: roster building resume has had. We get it from early picks,
Speaker 1: but mid and later round picks just have not. You
Speaker 1: literally have one contributor from the twenty three to twenty
Speaker 1: four classes.
Speaker 2: It's Devon ah Chan.
Speaker 1: You know, Cam Good, valuable special teams guy, and shoot,
Speaker 1: maybe he's even in this list. He's the best option
Speaker 1: over Cam Smith. Elijah Higgins would have been that, but
Speaker 1: he that was my guy back when we drafted him.
Speaker 1: Ryan Hayes, I don't think so ee. I think it's
Speaker 1: over there. Skyler Long long gone. But I mean your
Speaker 1: third rounders and beyond twenty twenty one were Hunter Long,
Speaker 1: Larnel Coleman, Jared Doakes. Twenty twenty it was Brandon Jones,
Speaker 1: Solomon Kinley, Jason Strobridge, Curtis Weaver, Blake Ferguson, Malcolm Perry.
Speaker 1: You need to start getting something from some of these
Speaker 1: guys at some point. And I thought, while this team
Speaker 1: was winning eleven games and putting six players in the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, it was fine. But now for a team
Speaker 1: that gets depleted down the stretch, each of the last
Speaker 1: three years. Look no further than that for why you've
Speaker 1: been in the position to sign Justin Houston and Bruce Irvin,
Speaker 1: or to start Jackson Carmen, or to play Duke Riley
Speaker 1: in a big spot. With a massive preamble out of
Speaker 1: the way, here are the players at each position that
Speaker 1: I think could help you reduce your level of needs.
Speaker 1: Patrick McMorris, the way he plays instinctually and the physicality
Speaker 1: of how he plays. He has what I was talking
Speaker 1: about earlier with that dogged mentality, come off a pile
Speaker 1: and slap your helmet like you cannot contain you're excitement
Speaker 1: for the play that you just made, for the physicality
Speaker 1: that you just issued. I think Patrick McMorris special Teams
Speaker 1: eight for sure, possibly dime safety, a depth piece that
Speaker 1: is you know, can come off the bench in a
Speaker 1: pinch and play for you on the interior offensive line.
Speaker 1: I thought Andrew Meyer was a possible backup center for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins this year had something happened to Aaron Brewer.
Speaker 1: Luckily he played every single step and didn't have to
Speaker 1: do that. But Andrew Meyer, I thought was a player
Speaker 1: that in the preseason had some good movement skills. He
Speaker 1: seemed to understand the communication of pass protection when it
Speaker 1: came to his job in the middle of the offensive line.
Speaker 1: So I think he has a chance to kind of
Speaker 1: maybe solidify the back end of your interior offensive line.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can make Liam Eichenberg expendable. And I like
Speaker 1: Liam for the for an eighth ninth offensive lineman as
Speaker 1: a guy that can play all five positions and will
Speaker 1: play hurt no questions asked. Tight End Julian Hill doesn't
Speaker 1: really belong here, but I think there's a lot more
Speaker 1: to come with this player. I still love him as
Speaker 1: your third wide tight end on the roster. That's why
Speaker 1: I hope he becomes this year. We'll talk more about
Speaker 1: that receiver d s Gridge, the fact that they trusted
Speaker 1: him to play snaps in Seattle over the league, Washington
Speaker 1: said a lot. I know Maleiku was coming off an injury,
Speaker 1: but Deed had just gotten here and he kind of
Speaker 1: fits the mold of what you want in terms of
Speaker 1: physical good ball carrier can block on the edge, and
Speaker 1: then Grant Dubos and Taj Washington are other options. Taj
Speaker 1: is an interesting player because of how well he can
Speaker 1: get vertically, and we didn't see him basically beyond like
Speaker 1: OTA's last year.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: But the pickens there are kind of slam. Those are
Speaker 1: your options at receiver an offensive tackle. I think Kean
Speaker 1: Smith is going to be a fit here and maybe
Speaker 1: a death piece for you for some time. I really
Speaker 1: like his game in terms of how he fits in
Speaker 1: the system. He's come a long way in the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Braiden and he was also a guy
Speaker 1: they wanted to convert to guard last year and didn't
Speaker 1: do that, but they were doing that before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: I thought he's an option in that position. And then
Speaker 1: Braiden Daniels, the guy they added off the practice squad
Speaker 1: a couple weeks back, is a possible option there off
Speaker 1: the edge, Cam Good Grayson Murphy's the guy that I
Speaker 1: really want to focus on. I think that his pass
Speaker 1: rush skill, the ability to run games. I think he's
Speaker 1: a great fit in this defense, and he was popping
Speaker 1: off all through camp early on. Gets hurt, doesn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to come back and play this year. Keep
Speaker 1: an eye on Grace and Murphy next year. Obviously, Mohammed
Speaker 1: Kamara is a player that didn't get a lot of
Speaker 1: playing time.
Speaker 2: I think he has a ways to go.
Speaker 1: And then Tyas Bowser doesn't belong in this group, but
Speaker 1: I think that he is a really good fit as
Speaker 1: like your fifth or sixth edge off the end there
Speaker 1: that can play some rundowns and give your pass which
Speaker 1: was a break. And then at cornerback Ethan Bonner and
Speaker 1: Storm Duck doesn't belong the same way because he's played.
Speaker 1: But if we can get one of those guys up
Speaker 1: to like NFL caliber player like that, that would be
Speaker 1: a huge boon. As they're both undrafted guys in the
Speaker 1: left outs tight end. I'm not put in Tanner, Connor
Speaker 1: and here because you can't develop if you can't stay healthy.
Speaker 1: We'll see you about Hayden, Rucie Jackson, Carmen no I
Speaker 1: said Ryan Hayes, no Neil Ferrell defensive tackle. No. I
Speaker 1: didn't like it this year Channing and Eric Azukama at
Speaker 1: linebacker receiver also respectively. No I did a mock off
Speaker 1: season once Blue Sky, We're gonna run through it real quick.
Speaker 1: I signed left guard Tevin Jenkins, a physical tone center
Speaker 1: from the Chicago Bears who I think is a great
Speaker 1: fit in the system. Trey Lance, I want to do
Speaker 1: like a multiple year contract for a developmental backup quarterback
Speaker 1: like Trey Lance, and get him in the program, get
Speaker 1: him learning, get him feeling comfortable. You're the backup to
Speaker 1: two up. You're gonna play. We need you, We're gonna
Speaker 1: develop you. You're gonna be our short yard solution in
Speaker 1: the running game as well. Free set Darius Washington from
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Did you watch that game? The way he hits,
Speaker 1: the way he flies, the way he moves, That's the
Speaker 1: guy I want in the post for us next year.
Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook a keene a six foot three receiver. I
Speaker 1: think we need that. He was a touchdown maker for
Speaker 1: a horrible Titans offense this year. And then Derek Nandi,
Speaker 1: the rotational piece inside for the Chiefs. And I do
Speaker 1: think Kalais will come back. So that said my third
Speaker 1: defensive tackle in there. And then I drafted Tyler Warren,
Speaker 1: the Penn State tight end. I took Shamar Stewart, the
Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Texas A and M even though I
Speaker 1: know he's not going to go that late, but just
Speaker 1: for the fun of it, he's a hell of a player.
Speaker 1: Tes Johnson in the second round for a trade that
Speaker 1: I got for Tyreek Hill, Lathan Ransom, the safety from
Speaker 1: Ohio State that I love, and then an Ohio State
Speaker 1: offensive guard Donovan Jackson. So I get Tua and lance
Speaker 1: A chan and right, and my running backs Waddle, Nick
Speaker 1: westbrook A, Keene tes Johnson, Malik Washington, my receivers, John
Speaker 1: news Smith, Tyler Warren, Julian Hill. What a great tight
Speaker 1: end room that is. My tackles are Patrick Paul, Austin
Speaker 1: Jackson and key On Smith. My interior offensive line is
Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins, Aarn Brewer, Isaiah Win, Donovan Jackson, Liam Eichenberg
Speaker 1: and Andrew Mayer. I keep saying Mayor Meyer and then
Speaker 1: Kalais and Zach Steeler with Shamar Stewart who can play
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and edge of two ninety Deshan Han, Benito Jones.
Speaker 1: I get JP back, I get chopped or chubb back.
Speaker 1: I've got chop Bowser, Quentin Bell, Mohammed Kamara, linebackers Jordan
Speaker 1: Brooks and Tyrrel Dotson, corners Ramsey Fuller, Cohu.
Speaker 2: The same room.
Speaker 1: And then my safeties are our Darius Washington and Leathan Ransom.
Speaker 1: I don't love the tackle position. I gotta get deeper there.
Speaker 1: I probably need a vet there. I don't love my
Speaker 1: linebacker room either, but it's a good start there for
Speaker 1: the off season. All right, let's go ahead and get
Speaker 1: the heck out of here. We'll see you guys on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback portion of the previews is going
Speaker 1: to kick.
Speaker 2: Off on Wednesday. We'll see in the meantime.
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