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Speaker 2: Sure it's time, nicell welcome toletely naughty but nice. I'm

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Speaker 2: your house drong shooter, and it is Friday, which means

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Speaker 2: our dear friend Corey Andrew joins us another week, Corey, Corey,

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Speaker 2: are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here, Hello, Rob, I've missed you, darling.

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Speaker 2: It was a minute. It was many technical issues, a

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Speaker 2: few little technical stuff. It happens. Yeah, I used to

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Speaker 2: get annoyed by that sort of stuff. It used to

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Speaker 2: drive me really crazy, and it could upset me for

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Speaker 2: like twenty four hours a day. I'd be mad at it.

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Speaker 2: I've learned to let go and what will be will be?

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Speaker 2: Will you obviously love having you and it's not the

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Speaker 2: same without you. But I've sort of figured out how

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Speaker 2: to plot along. And I used to get so nervous

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Speaker 2: doing a solo show.

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Speaker 3: Well the last time, people don't know, like we were

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Speaker 3: literally about like we were about to start, and my

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Speaker 3: computer just like a second beforehand said no.

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Speaker 1: It just just stopped to just do it.

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Speaker 2: Even this morning, there was a few hicks, but we

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Speaker 2: figured it out. Yes, enough about us, let's get talking

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Speaker 2: about the stars. Love. What time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 2: It is a big controversial story at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show. Do not worry. We are not a political show.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to get into whether or not we

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Speaker 2: think this is a good idea. We'll leave that to you.

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Speaker 2: But what we will talk about is what's happening now

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Speaker 2: to the Chrisly family. So the Chrisly family just received

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Speaker 2: a pardon and they're about to make millions. So following

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Speaker 2: the pardon of Todd and Julie, I sort of liked

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Speaker 2: their show. I didn't watch it all the time. I

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Speaker 2: wasn't kenny to it. I was aware of them, and

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Speaker 2: Their show was called Chrisly Knows Best. While sources are

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Speaker 2: saying telling me that the family is already feeling fielding offers.

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Speaker 2: Sources say, quote, they never gave up on being stars,

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Speaker 2: and now the president has given that back to them,

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Speaker 2: and they see this as a redemption arc and actually

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Speaker 2: become really popular with a certain base, not universal, but

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Speaker 2: you don't need that anymore. You don't need to be

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Speaker 2: a network anymore. You need to be targeted. And so

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Speaker 2: they know who their audience is, they're going to lean

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Speaker 2: into it and hearing there might be a visit to

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Speaker 2: the camera crews will be with them. It's sort of

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Speaker 2: a wild world we live in. Did you ever see

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Speaker 2: the musical Chicago?

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's about how.

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Speaker 2: Crime pays, how you commit an awful It was murder,

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Speaker 2: She murdered her guy and then a star. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's such a perverse but truthful way of how

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Speaker 2: not just America, but but countries work. You can become

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Speaker 2: really really famous now by doing something awful and yet

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, especially in mainstream TV.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you see like Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 3: casting some questionable people who are who are murder murderers,

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Speaker 3: suspects potentially and all kinds of interesting people. But you

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Speaker 3: know what, that is what the audience wants. And if

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Speaker 3: see I mean, if Charles Manson were alive, honey, he'd

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Speaker 1: I mean, he really would he would.

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Speaker 2: I think I gotta stop fighting because I'm losing this battle.

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Speaker 2: I blame the housewife really bad behavior, episode after episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we rewarded, gets rewarded. The more naughty they were, the

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Speaker 2: she went to jail, I thought her career was over.

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Speaker 1: No, No, made her bigger, the bigger star Corey.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to rob a bankat what can we do?

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Speaker 3: Let's see, I'm ready to flipp a table or something

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Speaker 3: that's gonna get me that six figures every week.

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Speaker 1: Let's flip a table immediately.

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Speaker 2: Wild. Some people are really really supportive of this. I

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Speaker 2: saw the situation from the Jersey Shore this morning. Is

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Speaker 2: and so and they know too, these reality stars that

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Speaker 1: They they'll get on the show because yeah.

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Speaker 2: Troubled people who I've got arrested on the Housewives. There's

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Speaker 2: so for for a minute now, maybe a little bit longer,

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Speaker 2: TV insiders are telling me they could be bigger than

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Speaker 2: the Kardashians. They're not just going to get TV specials.

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Speaker 2: They're going to get interviews, they're going to get merchandising,

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Speaker 2: They could even maybe run for office. So Savannah, it

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Speaker 2: she really became quite close with Laura Trump and that

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Speaker 2: My goodness, and they're saying that the daughter really works this.

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Speaker 2: Krushner's dad went to jail and he's going to be

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Speaker 2: the ambassador of France. I don't know if it matters anymore.

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Speaker 2: And do we want to hold ourselves to a higher

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Speaker 2: on opportunities. It's a dinama, isn't it what it's true about?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that Laura Trump probably worked

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Speaker 1: I would just end with this personally. I will say

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Speaker 3: Arrested for some very serious charges, yes okay, and convicted,

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Speaker 3: So it's not like there has some miraculous comeback here.

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Speaker 3: It's more about someone is deciding to look past their criminality,

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Speaker 2: your results. Hey, Corey, what do you like? Told I?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, Kelly Clarkson, you know, she's making some news here.

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Speaker 3: She's got some thoughts about her show, how she left

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Speaker 1: Thinking that maybe it wasn't a good idea because.

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Speaker 3: Her latest music endeavor has flopped, unfortunately, and so she's

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Speaker 3: the Powerhouse vocalist she released a song called where Have

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Speaker 3: You Been came out last month, but the answer from

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Speaker 3: it's to got twenty thousand units sold, right, but that's

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Speaker 3: You know, it's really not the same as buying a CD.

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Speaker 2: You have said it. That's not saying that.

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Speaker 2: Programmers of these stations. It's absolutely true and hopeful it's

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Speaker 2: Kelly was leaving the show because she misses her life

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Speaker 2: of Oh my gosh, she can just tour forever. She

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Speaker 2: So I think a couple of things here. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: a musician to pour your heart and soul into a

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Speaker 2: new record. Yeah, underperforms must be devastating.

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Speaker 1: It's hurtful.

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Speaker 2: If you've got ten fifteen hits you can play Radio City,

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Speaker 2: I get why Kelly's being given pause. I get why

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Speaker 2: The money is not in the sales anymore. No branding

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Speaker 2: and selling, yes, licensing, endorsement deals. I think she does wayfair.

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Speaker 2: She could do fragrance. Is she's that girl next door.

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Speaker 2: She could do clothing. Kelly's not gonna be hard up

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Speaker 2: for money, so this isn't a money decision like most

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Speaker 2: to do my side working. Kelly doesn't. She in such

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Speaker 2: to do. I predict she will leave the show. I

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Speaker 2: predict that this album, it's only a few singles, one

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Speaker 2: single way and it underperformed. The album comes out in

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Speaker 2: so well. But it's also unfair to compare her to

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Speaker 2: Kelly of twenty years ago. Has changed so much that

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Speaker 2: she's not gonna sell a million copies. Nobody does unless

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Speaker 2: you're Beyonce or Taylor Swift. The music business is so different,

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Speaker 1: So it's a great thing. He's happy for her.

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Speaker 2: to the Naughty but Nice Your hostbok idea friend, Cory Andrew, Hey, Corey,

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Speaker 2: Our question is should deb tell all she can? She

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Speaker 3: First of all, Janelaw's performance was amazing at the AMA.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna put that out there for us fifty five

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Speaker 3: They were like whatever, Mom, They're like whatever, can we

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, I love it. If my mom was on

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Speaker 2: not helping. And the the day let's end with a

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Speaker 2: moment of sometimes things go wrong to lead you right.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't always make sense in the moment. I get it,

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Speaker 2: the detours, the delays, the doors that have been slammed

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Speaker 2: it hurts, even though it doesn't always give you the

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Speaker 2: answers right now, because sometimes life does reroot you and

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Speaker 2: it's not punishing you, it's protecting and preparing you once again. Wow,

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Speaker 2: sometimes things go wrong to lead you right, Corey, you

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Speaker 2: needed to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I needed to hear it today.

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Speaker 2: It all so much for listening, So they're not even

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