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And the guys are all here right, 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: my guy, Dan Byer, Jason Stewart, Iowa, Sam. 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Everybody's here. News to theday. 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Nico Harrison's been fired. We'll talk about that upcoming. But 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I want to get to the game of the night, 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: the game of the weekend, the Eagles and Packers game. 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Now full disclosure. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I went to the game and you're like, wait, what 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: that's a humble break. It is and it isn't because 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot I don't know about because when you're 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: at the game, you can't, mean unless you're gonna listen 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: with AirPods in, you can't you know, you don't have 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: a commentary. So you have the commentary of all the fans, 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: which is good and is bad. We'll talk about a 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: lot about that in the podcast. 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: But I. 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Don't really even know what Nick Sirianni was doing, let 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: alone what the Green Bay Packers were doing in terms 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: of trying to win the game. At the end of 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the game. I ask it because with like two and 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: a half minutes to go on second down, the Eagles 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: chose choose to throw the ball on second and third 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: down instead of run the football, get it to the 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: two minute warning, and then if you're gonna throw it, 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: do it on third down, where you know, obviously you 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: should run it on the three depth. You run on 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: third down, then they have to use one of their timeouts, 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and then whatever happens, probably punting, which they should have done, 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: they didn't do. You know, then you have a limited 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: time and limited timeouts to get the ball back instead. 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Instead they end up actually because of what a penalty 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: getting the first door, they got a first down. Actually, 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: no excuse me, they punt the ball to the Green 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, who then get nothing at the offense then 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: punt the ball back to the Eagles, who then do 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: it again and try and bleed out the clock. The 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: only reason they can't bleed out the clock is because 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: you're right, the Green Bay Packers have timeouts. Then the 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Packers get the ball back and they get like twenty 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: five to twenty seven seconds to go. They throw it 53 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: deep over the middle on first down into like triple coverage. 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: The second pass, you know, with twenty seconds ago, is 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, ten to fifteen yards whatever it was. The 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: whole thing was like, I don't want to win it, 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: you win it. I don't want to win it, you 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: win it. It was bizarre. Then you factor in how 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: many times it felt like the Packers were choosing to 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: run the football twenty one carries to thirty six passing attempts. 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Many of those passing attempts came late in the game 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: when they had to and there was an extremely conservative 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: game plan for the Packers, And now people start to go, hey, 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, what's going on with this offense? Meanwhile, the Eagles, 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: was Jalen Hurts good not really? Was Sek im Barkley dominant, 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: not really, but Sequon Barkley catches one ball, goes forty 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: one yards, you know, puts a dB on spin cycle. 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: They throw it to Devonte's Davante Smith in the end 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: zone for you know, for a touchdown. And that was 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: really the limit to the explosive plays in the entire game. 71 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: The Eagles won the way the Eagles always win, which 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: is ugly. We don't got to win pretty, We'll win ugly. 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: And the Packers couldn't figure out their offense while trying 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: to protect their quarterback and work through not having Tucker 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: Craft as the safety blanket to Jordan Love. But all 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: of that just weird decisions by the coaching stabs. Or 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: maybe it was by Jalen Hurts, because with two twenty 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: five to go, when he threw the ball out a bounce, 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: it did look like an RBO and maybe he missread it. 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he should have handed the ball to Saquon Barkley. 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Barkley Barkley, byer, do you have any idea what heck 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: was going on with that play calling late by either side? 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: I mean, considering on how poorly Green Bay did on 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: offense last night, it didn't make much sense for the 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Eagles to put the ball in the air in that situation. 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: Just I mean, you got the first down with Saquon 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: Barkley to get into Packers' territory. Worst case Anario, you 88 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: punt it away and they're back deep with no timeouts 89 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: or a way to use most of their timeouts. So no, 90 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: it didn't It didn't make much sense at all. I 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: understand the aggressive nature of it, but it's also it's 92 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: not like this game was like the Bengals and Bears 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, where you're like, we just 94 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: got to keep the ball because we can't let them 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: have it. 96 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's also just the math of it, right, just 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: giving less opportunities, you know, and again you give the 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example in our game, and for 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: people who don't know, we played a game at eleven am, 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: played a kid's day game and got our first win 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: the season. But at the end of the first half, 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: my point guard was like, hey, coach, I can you 103 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: know they're the free throw liners twenty six seconds ago 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: the first half, He's like, can I push if I 105 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: get a layup? I say, you can get a dead layup, 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: take it, take it. But if not dribble that thing out, 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: let's run, let's play for one one shot. So he 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: drives in there gets it dead layup, but he takes 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: a kind of a weird shot and they defend it. 110 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: He misses, they come down, they miss a shot. We 111 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: go in with a small lead at that And the 112 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: point was I try to teach him day is here's 113 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: the reason that even if maybe if you have a 114 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: dead wide open layup, but otherwise you don't, it's just 115 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: because of the It's about number of possessions. If you 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: hold for the last shot, they cannot will not get 117 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: another possession. They cannot will not score another point. But 118 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: even if you score, if you give them opportunity one, 119 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: we can accrue a foul or two, they can still score. 120 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: And they can score three versus R two if we 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: get a layup. Technically I'd take a layup as a 122 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: ninety five plus percent shot. 123 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: Otherwise I would not. 124 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with the with the Eagles, like, yes, yes, 125 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: you're totally right. The Packers did not have offense the 126 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: entire game. Why should they be scared of running down 127 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: the clock as much as you want punt them, pin 128 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: them deep, and then say hey, if you're gonna beat 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: this or get to a field goal, knock yourselves out. 130 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Let's see. 131 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: Well but again, all of that still could have been true, 132 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: only with less time on the clock. Right, there's two 133 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty five to go. If you run the football and 134 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: you get tackled the line of scrimmage, it goes to 135 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: the two minute warning. Packers still have three timeouts. If 136 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: you run the football again, Packers have to call another timeout. 137 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: So now they'll get the ball back with one fifty five. 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: If you don't get the first down, there's no reason 139 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to think they would get the first down anyway, or 140 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't get the first down anyway. And they're a running team, 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: it's what they do. So they would have had only 142 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: two timeouts and how much time to get back. So again, 143 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: it it made no sense to me none. Here's Nick 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Sirianni after the game explaining it. 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: I think we were it was into the wind on 146 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: that one. I knew the kick would had to be 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: a little bit lower traractory of a kick on that 148 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: On that particular one. I got a lot of faith 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: in our offense. It didn't work out on this one. 150 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: You know, you know, we we just didn't. We just 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: didn't get it. But the decision I stand put on 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: that decision, you know, especially being up three, because you 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: go up six, they're still going to need a touchdown 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: in hell Mary everything like that. So we would ended 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: the game if we would have got that, and then 156 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: got a lot of faith in our guys to be 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: able to do that. But the reason I didn't kick 158 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: the field goal again being up three, and also just 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: this trajectory into the wind there on that particular one. 160 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so here I think he's talking about the last 161 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: possession at the next to last possession, which is what 162 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Nonetheless, he actually is contradicting himself while 163 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: talking about it. Here's what I mean, Dan one. Yes, 164 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: so if you get stopped there, they're like two complete 165 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: passes away from being in field goal range. And he 166 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: just admitted that the Green Bay Packers had the wind 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: at their back. Get his explanation makes no sense at 168 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: all none. Having the wind in your face on a 169 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: punt is actually a good thing when you're trying to 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: pin somebody back, right, because it means that the wind 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: will keep the ball from going into the end zone. Theoretically, 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: percentage time wise. So the idea like, I never thought 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: about punting my offense. I'm not saying your offense you 174 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: can go forward on fourth down. That didn't make any 175 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: sense either. Why don't you punt with however many seconds ago, 176 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: there's like forty seconds ago? Why would you punt? Why 177 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: would you let them? I mean, if the Packers would 178 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: have kept the backup field goal kicker instead of shot 179 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: set of McManus, who clearly can't kick the ball sixty 180 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: five yards in the air, they would have a shot. 181 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: And the over reason they had a shot was because 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: you stubbornly refused to punt. 183 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: So just because it worked out does not make it 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: the right decision. 185 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: Sirianni made two awful decisions next to the last possession, 186 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: throwing it on third, second and third down and last possession, 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: just punt the ball on fourth, punt the ball on fourth. 188 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: They have no timeouts. They would have had I don't know, 189 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: twenty or so seconds left to go make a play 190 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: because they didn't punch. So they got the ball with 191 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: twenty five seconds ago, right. 192 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: Well, so what yeah? Yeah, it was because the first 193 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: part of the timeouts was on the other side of 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: the two minute warning, where They then did end up 195 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: punting it to green Bay, and so then green Bay 196 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: ended up having the fumble on the fourth down play 197 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: that stalled their drive. And then when they got the 198 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: football back, green Bay still had the two timeouts, and 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: green Bay used the timeouts. It was then on the 200 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: fourth down where they just threw it up to A J. Brown, 201 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: where you should have just I don't care if you're 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: at the thirty five yard line, just punt it out 203 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: of the end zone, just booming as far as you can. 204 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: No, you just you can try and kill him in 205 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the corner. You know, you get to wear your face 206 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: try and kill them in the corner. Yeah, it's it 207 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: still uses up the exact same amount of time. 208 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: As it came bought about. You didn't make any sense 209 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: at all. 210 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: I think you're arguing in the way of nobody punts 211 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: from the thirty five yard line anymore. So to be 212 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: able to do that is I actually think it's trickier 213 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: for a punter to be able to try to put one, 214 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: because it's just you don't give them any room. But 215 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: that doesn't negate the point that I would much rather 216 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: have Green Bay start at their own twenty yard line. 217 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: Correct then start from their own thirty five yard line 218 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: and be able to at least get in position to 219 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: throw up a hail mary. 220 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Right, So here's we're making the same point in a 221 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: different way. Okay. Regardless of whether or not he punted 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: it into the end zone or try to do a 223 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: coffin corner, they weren't going for the first down. They 224 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: were trying to use clock, and by throwing the ball 225 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: out of bounds you accomplished nothing. Essentially, you took a 226 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: knee and hand the ball to them and ran four 227 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: or five seconds off the clock. You could run four 228 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: or five seconds off the clock and punted it out 229 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: of bounds or coffin corner, whichever way you want, and 230 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: they would have had a They would have had, you know, 231 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: at a minimum eighty yards to go to get a 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: touchdown and forty yards to go to get a field goal. 233 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: Either way, he made the wrong decision. He didn't make 234 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: the wrong You're like, well, they won the game. That 235 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: doesn't make it the right decision. It's process over result. 236 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: And he gave the Packers again, the Packers, if they 237 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: complete one more pass, then they're in well within field 238 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: goal range. And there's a lot of kickers in the 239 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: NFL that can kick a sixty five yard field goal 240 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: right now, mcmannus is not one of them. 241 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: Well, he's also not one of them when it's twenty 242 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: degrees and the football is a rock, like like, that's 243 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: got it. He got a warm up when he wasn't 244 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: supposed to. Was short yep. Then Green Bay runs their 245 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: play to try to get a couple of yards, which 246 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: really wasn't close because Love just airmailed it to take 247 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: more time off the clock, which no. 248 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: They had. 249 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: The Eagles had two defensive backs right there on the sideline. 250 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: They had one on each side, so you couldn't run 251 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: little like three yard out, you know, just throw it 252 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: out of bounds. So what happened was he looked up 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: and looked and saw those guys there, so he just 254 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: aired Yeah. 255 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: No, I'm aware of all that. It's just the point 256 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: of they had the kicking unit out on the field, yes, yes, 257 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: and then they pulled them back off on the fourth 258 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: down play to say, hey, let's get a couple of 259 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: more yards in that scenario, didn't get it, and then 260 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: brought the field goal team back out on the field. 261 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: Just doesn't make any sense whatsoever, Like you just showed 262 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: that he couldn't make a sixty five yarder when there 263 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: was nobody rushing. Why in the world would you think 264 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: that he could make one on the second try. So 265 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: I would have just thrown one up as a hail 266 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: Mary at the end. If you're Matt Lafleur, sure you 267 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: don't get the completion on the out route, but why 268 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: are you putting your field goal unit back out on 269 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: the field for an attempt that The second attempt was horrendous. 270 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: It's like when you learn Madden and then they've changed 271 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: the kicking style for the first time and you have 272 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: no idea how to get it. 273 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: It's a good reference, that's a good pull. 274 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 3: It was awful. 275 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good pool. 276 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: For forty years, Tyrek's been helping customers find the right 277 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: tyres for Oulutin where they drive ship fast free back 278 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: by free road as protection with convenience slation options like 279 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: mobile time slation. 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And I turned my buddy Jason, 291 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: who was in town, and I said, boy, Saque hasn't 292 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: done anything. He's like, yeah, neither is Davonte Smith. And 293 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: then Saquon does, DeVante Smith does. Good Night, Drive home safely. 294 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 295 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 296 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 297 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Stug gott Leap Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 298 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: I saw this quote. This is an interesting one. According 299 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: to ESPN. When I asked Monday about Brian Dabole being 300 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: fired and if he would consider reaching out to him, 301 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott said, yeah, Now, I understand why you're asking that. 302 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Brian's a great coach, unfortunate to see that happen for him. 303 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,119 Speaker 1: At this point, that's not under any type of consideration. 304 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: I think we can tell that that relationship did not 305 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: end end well. 306 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Is that fair? Right? 307 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Didn't win well between between Nick dermott. 308 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: And day Ball. 309 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: I think there's also the fact of you'd kind of 310 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: be undermining Joe Brady yep in his role at that 311 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: time by doing that. 312 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: No question, but the way in which it's answered tells 313 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: you what you need to know. Man, if there's a 314 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: way in which we could find a role for him, 315 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to. That guy's awesome. Awesome, we do have 316 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Joe Brady's taken over and he's amazing. But that wasn't 317 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: how Sean McDermott answered it. I understand why you're asking 318 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: the question. Is a great way of explaining. I don't 319 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: want to answer this honestly, because if I do, it's 320 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: going to tell you what I really think. What I 321 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: really think is I don't want that guy anywhere near 322 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: my staff. I would also tell you that McDermott, no 323 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: matter how much better his record is than Brian daball Ta, 324 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Ball had a great working relationship with Josh Allen Tay 325 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: Ball's actually from Buffalo. McDermott, while not truly on the 326 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: hot seat, is theoretically on some sort of warmer sort 327 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: of seat. And I'm sure that in the back of 328 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: his mind it'd be like, why would I hire the 329 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: guy who they'll probably move over to replace me? 330 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: That would be dumb. 331 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: All that's fine, But he's telling you all those things 332 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: around his mind based upon his answer. That's my read. 333 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Why the Mavericks fire niek oh Harrison now because people 334 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: keep chanting fire Nico because Anthony Davis is hurt. 335 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: I just this is one of those. 336 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Deals where I understand you're allowed to think how you 337 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: want to think about Nico Harrison and the trade that 338 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: they pulled off, but still not seeing it to fruition 339 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: is embarrassing for the Dallas Mavericks. It just is. 340 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how you could evaluate. 341 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Yes, Lucas looked great and he's finally gotten himself in shape, 342 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: but Kyrie Irving tore his knee, Anthony Davis is hurt. 343 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: And if your point is, hey, you trade away, you 344 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: trade away Luca because he's always hurt and you got 345 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis who's always hurt and older, it's a fair point. 346 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: But if hey, we're not better as a basketball team 347 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: like Kyrie towards knee, how about we wait till the. 348 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: End of the year. 349 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: This is inexperience of ownership and an overreactive to a 350 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: fan base, which saddening now cares I disagree with it. 351 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he can't fire him, but if you were 352 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: going to fire him, should have been in the off season. 353 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: If you're going to start this season and build this team, 354 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: let this team. Let's let let's see what it looks 355 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: like when everybody's healthy. All right, stug Gotlieb show here 356 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. John Middelkoff is our guest. UH 357 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Three Down is the podcast on the Volume podcast network. John, 358 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: Let's start with the news of today, Brian dave us 359 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: of yesterday, Brian Daball out of a job. 360 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: What's your reaction? 361 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 7: I think once you blow the fourth quarter lead again 362 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 7: for the fourth time several times now, having a double 363 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 7: digit lead with five or six minutes to go, and 364 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 7: I think the way it happened, he declined a penalty 365 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 7: which would have given him first down at the half 366 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 7: yard line, which could have essentially iced the game if 367 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 7: they score a touchdown, chose to keep the points, and 368 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 7: then it all unraveled, as well as the quarterback getting 369 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 7: injured because you're running quarterback power like you have Cam Newton. 370 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 7: I think it was just an accumulation of things. At 371 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 7: the end of the day, the production based business. He 372 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 7: was twenty and forty, you know. I mean a lot 373 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 7: of people make fun of Mike McDaniel. I google it 374 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 7: this morning. He has a winning record. He's thirty one 375 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 7: and thirty. So when you go twenty forty and one, 376 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 7: not many people in the sport of football, college or 377 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 7: pro survive. 378 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: No, I agree and understand that. I guess my question though, 379 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: is why now? 380 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 7: Well the Bears game, I mean I just think it's like, 381 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 7: what are we doing at this point? And you give 382 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 7: Mike Kapka, who was kind of right up the Giants, 383 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 7: Valley Northwestern guy, former quarterback, just high level guy, you know, 384 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 7: a two month interview to see if maybe they got 385 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 7: something on the staff. 386 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: Stuck Outleap show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Middlecoff 387 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: is our guest. Before we get to the decision making 388 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, help me out, what 389 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what's missing at the backers offense. 390 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 7: Well, obviously they're missing a couple of wide receivers. I 391 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 7: mean Tucker who is over receiving tight end that crushes him. 392 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 7: Golden who they draft in the first round. Injured Dobbs 393 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 7: gets hurt last night. Their other wide receivers are dropping 394 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 7: the ball. So I do agree with the floor. From 395 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 7: an execution standpoint, Love is a roller coaster. I mean 396 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 7: I thought he was like Aaron Rodgers level bad in 397 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 7: the first half. Second half, he played well, but the coaching, 398 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: I mean the the procedural penalties of you know, they 399 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 7: had multiple called. I mean the one on the big 400 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 7: first down was a killer, and that's that's on the coach. 401 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 7: You know, the Jacobs play where he runs the wrong 402 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 7: way on the screen for the delayed kind of running 403 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 7: back pass. I mean, what was that would have been 404 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 7: a minimum thirty five to forty yard game? I mean 405 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 7: all that stuff like you don't fire Josh Jacobs. So 406 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 7: I think when people say Matt Lafleur, you know the 407 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 7: I guess the Eagles were screaming out the play that 408 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 7: was coming on the fourth down play which also the 409 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 7: Packers had a penalty, so even if they would have 410 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 7: got it, it wouldn't have counted. I thought it was a 411 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 7: really really rough hat from Matt before. 412 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: Okay, how did they fix it? 413 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 7: I mean, they just need to catch the ball. And 414 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 7: coach better. But I mean, I think we've kind of seen, 415 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 7: you know, this year's kind of been on full display. 416 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 7: I mean, the defense is pretty awesome and that's with 417 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 7: like even last night, Parsons I don't think had a 418 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 7: quarterback hit. So the defense definitely not the problem, which 419 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 7: is kind of ironic most of the Aaron Rodgers era 420 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 7: of the last fifteen years, in the last couple of 421 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 7: years of Jordan Love, I guess last year started turning around, 422 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 7: but the defense has kind of let down the Packers 423 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 7: and now it feels like their strength and their offense 424 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 7: is the prompts. So, I mean, we're in early mid November, 425 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 7: so I think we have to acknowledge two things that 426 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 7: Lafour's really feeling the pressure right ed policy you live 427 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 7: there said this offseason like, yeah, we're not going to 428 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 7: extend their contracts, and it was like, oh, they'll be 429 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 7: fine the other and I thought that too, And now 430 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 7: you watched last night the first time, I kind of 431 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 7: thow it, WHOA this he might be in a little trouble. 432 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 7: He keeps looking like this, and Jordan Love like, I mean, 433 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 7: at this point in time, he kind of is what 434 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 7: he is. He definitely has some talent. He can look 435 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 7: good for series or a quarter, but he's kind of 436 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 7: a roller coaster. We can wake up week out, you know, 437 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: quarter to quarter. 438 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: He is very much a roller coaster. What about the Eagles, Like, 439 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: I know they won the game, but their offense looked 440 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: very pedestrian as well, with the exception of you know, 441 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: two plays kind of back to back, sake one in 442 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: the flatin then DeVante Davante in the end zone. 443 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Eagles? 444 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: And look, I know that's how they win games, but 445 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: at some point you're like, man, this is just not pretty. 446 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 447 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 7: They were obviously a much more dominant running team last year. 448 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 7: Their offensive line was healthy and good. They've lost backed 449 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 7: into the Chargers. Dickerson's been banged up and Mean Lane 450 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 7: Johnson's battle injuries this year, so that hurts them. I 451 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 7: think their passing game has always been a little seats 452 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 7: for famine, But at the end of the day, they 453 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 7: have two high priced wide receivers, so it's like you're 454 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 7: gonna get some big plays if you just kind of 455 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 7: throw it up to them. To me, what stood out 456 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 7: last night is like, you know, the defense early in 457 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 7: the season was kind of hit or miss. You look 458 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 7: last night like they were healthy and looked pretty good. 459 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 7: Ye had Jalen Phillips. We know how good Carter is. 460 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 7: I mean they got multiple linebackers. I mean, I asked 461 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 7: Kirby Smart and n Kobe Dean's probably one of his 462 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 7: favorite players' ever coached, as well as Nolan Smith. He's 463 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 7: back obviously Mitchell, you know, he's he might not be 464 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 7: Stingley junior, but like he's that type athlete who can 465 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 7: mirror guys. He's pretty special. The Jean's good, and they 466 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 7: got they got Dick Fangjill. So maybe this year that 467 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 7: they're really gonna rely on their defense and just hope 468 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 7: Jalen can hit enough big plays in the passing game, 469 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 7: you know, and Saque can kind of work his magic. 470 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 7: But they're probably less likely. I think last year they 471 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 7: said it record right, it was like seven or eight 472 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 7: runs of over fifty plus yards. That's not happening this year. 473 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 7: But their defense is definitely playing better, and they just 474 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 7: they gotta find a way to get aj Brown a 475 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 7: little more involved. But I mean, at this point in time, 476 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 7: I don't think we should hold our breath. 477 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't and I don't. I don't 478 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: think you see it happening? 479 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: Is it? Doug o Gotlieb show yost to Fox Sports. 480 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Radio Man, there's a lot of other stuff. JJ McCarthy. 481 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Two more interceptions and a loss to the Ravens, and 482 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: it's not a classic great Ravens defense. I get that 483 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: he's missed time. I get its first his first year 484 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: as a starter, But where are you on, JJ McCarthy. 485 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 7: I just think it's really hard. Obviously he hasn't been 486 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 7: great in the limited action he's had this year. But 487 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 7: when you go to a team with the XOK, I 488 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 7: mean they won fourty games last year and we're sixty 489 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 7: minutes away from winning fifteen and being the number one seed. 490 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 7: So it's not like going to most crappy teams where 491 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 7: it's like you get the li learned like that. So 492 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 7: what you throw a couple of picks, throw a couple 493 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 7: of nice passes. Everyone's happy. Every play is dissected. And 494 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 7: we saw it a couple of years ago with Trey 495 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 7: Lance that had just ate him alive. Now JJ McCarthy's 496 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 7: better than Trey Lance. But there's a pressure when you're 497 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 7: starter on as a young player for a really really 498 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 7: talented team. I do think their coach gets a little 499 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 7: pass happy and J. J. McCarthy did not grow up 500 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 7: in a pass happy system. I mean Jim Harbaugh, which 501 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 7: is kind of ironic because this year they're passing the 502 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 7: ball a lot more. But like his entire life has 503 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 7: he's I know he's a former quarterback, but he coached, 504 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 7: you know, at Stanford with a forty nine ers of 505 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 7: Michigan much more like he's a defensive coach. He would 506 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 7: have no problem running at forty times a game, so 507 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 7: they never had to rely on JA did that way 508 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 7: and Kevin O'Connell likes downing up passes over and over 509 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 7: and over again. We saw it with Sam Darnol last 510 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 7: year in the playoff game when he was struggling, he 511 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 7: just kept calling passes. And I don't know if you 512 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 7: saw the clip where on one of the picks last week, 513 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 7: Jefferson just kind of quits and I saw a lot 514 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 7: of people crushing him. And listen, receivers can be a little, 515 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 7: uh little fickle personality wise up and down. But I 516 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 7: think he's thinking, I'm watching the guy play with last 517 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 7: year compete and be like a front runner for MVP. 518 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 7: I got this kid who is completely over his head. 519 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 7: What the bleep are we doing? And I just think 520 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 7: that the more and more, Sam Darnold, he's looking like 521 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 7: he's looking it's and I understand. Listen, they drafted the 522 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 7: kid high. They went all in on him, which is understandable, 523 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 7: but I think we have to acknowledge it's kind of 524 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 7: blowing up in their face by the week. 525 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: It is blown up in their face by the week. 526 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: If there's any question about it. This is the Doug 527 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio again. I 528 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: don't know how what you think of some of the 529 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: podcasters like, h was it a manuao manuacho? 530 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: Uh? 531 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Basically called on people to thinks black people will riot 532 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: if Shador Sanders doesn't get an opportunity. 533 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 4: Uh. 534 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel, you see the tape? How do you look? 535 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 7: Uh? When you say seed the tape, I mean I 536 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 7: I don't watch the Browns anymore. I mean they were 537 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 7: on one of my TVs. Every time I look up, 538 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 7: he's got a peace shooter arm. He can't move. But 539 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 7: it's not like they think Shador isn't as good as him. 540 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 7: I mean, I honestly, I think the Browns, you know, 541 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 7: to me, Chadors and Dylan are both kind of irrelevant. 542 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 7: I think it's more of a reflection. Everyone asks like 543 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 7: all these coaches should get fired, and the Browns every 544 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 7: time I look, they just loose, and I feel like 545 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 7: they get the fly under the radar. And I've had 546 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 7: this serious you know, Kevin Stefanski's Ivy League guy, Andrew 547 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 7: Berry's Ivy League guy. Media kind of gravitates towards those 548 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 7: types and they get a they get a huge pass. 549 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 7: Even I thought the Steve Podesta today like, yeah, we 550 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 7: really screwed that thing up, Like, oh yeah, kind of. 551 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm watching your organization, even having Shador Sanders 552 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: on your team, what are you guys doing? You just 553 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 7: drafted a guy the third round that that organization I 554 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 7: think gets a bigger pass for being a dumpster fire, 555 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 7: you know, like when the Raiders operate like that, everyone 556 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 7: makes fun of them. People have been ripping on the Dolphins. 557 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 7: They just blew out the Bills. I mean they just 558 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 7: lost the Jets. Justin field didn't account for one hundred 559 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 7: yards passing and running. I think it's it's almost underrated 560 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 7: how bad the Browns are. 561 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: Right, now almost underrated. 562 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 563 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Okay, when you watched Aaron Rodgers struggle against the Chargers, 564 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: was it about the Chargers defense or is it about 565 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? 566 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 7: Well, I do think it was kind of funny. I 567 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 7: like the Steelers a lot in that spot, which you 568 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 7: can kind of tell earlier, like, uh, this is not 569 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 7: gonna be good. I actually think Jim Harbaugh has become 570 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 7: what Mike Tomlin used to be and the Steelers used 571 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 7: to be early in his tenure, because they came into 572 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 7: that game, their offensive line wasn't shambles. The Steelers has 573 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 7: the momentum. You're like, it's gonna be a home game 574 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 7: for the Steelers, and Jim Harbaugh's team hit them right 575 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 7: in the teeth from the jump and it was over quick. 576 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 7: I think with Aaron Rodgers, you and I a couple 577 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 7: of years ago when Tom was still playing, and I 578 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 7: never fault these guys once you get I mean once 579 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 7: you're over forty. That when Khalil Mack who looks him 580 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 7: at Neil Hunter, I don't know what they're lifting situation is, 581 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 7: but I want some of what they're on because they 582 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 7: look fantastic and Khalil Khalil is one of my favorite 583 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 7: players in the league, and he's still playing at a 584 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 7: high level. When he landed on Aaron, Aaron was like, 585 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 7: I'm not doing this tonight. And the Chargers were just 586 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 7: relentless and Aaron wanted no part of it. And remember 587 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 7: when the four first got there that last year, McCarthy, 588 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 7: You know, Aaron was getting a little older. You know, 589 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 7: it's fundamentals were no longer the Brady mannings. They were awful. 590 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: Balls are flying all over the place, and it kind 591 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 7: of looked like that because it's like, well, I'm not 592 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 7: stepping into this brow if there's anyone in charge of 593 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 7: uniformy remotely close to me. And that one in the 594 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 7: flat where he kind of turns again, I don't blame 595 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 7: him at all. He's forty one, but you have no 596 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 7: chance with you know, his limited athletic ability relative to 597 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 7: what it used to be. If he's gonna even the 598 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 7: box that year with Tom like once, you don't want 599 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 7: to get hit at all. I'm not talking about just 600 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 7: taking like a full on seck. I'm just talking like 601 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 7: getting bumped into. It's really hard to function at a 602 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 7: high level. And I think Doug, like I saw a 603 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago. I'm like, listen, the mask not 604 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 7: on their side. There's no way the Ravens can come back. 605 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 7: I don't even think it's even a question now if 606 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 7: you tell me, by the time they play at the 607 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 7: end of this month, I expect the Ravens to be 608 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 7: in first place. I mean, I think the Steelers have 609 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 7: major problems on. 610 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Their hands right now and the crazy Bart. I don't 611 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: think the Raves are very good. 612 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 7: No, they're probably relative to what they've been. They're definitely 613 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 7: out of good. 614 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like they're usually an unbelievable defensive team, 615 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, with Lamar and Good, good good. I don't 616 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: think their defense is great. And obviously Labar has been 617 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: great this year. He's been hurt a good portion of time. 618 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: But even a completed defense of the Ravens feels like 619 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: it's trending better than the Steelers. 620 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 7: I do think, Doug and I don't know if you've 621 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 7: talked about this, the day Ball thing, I do think 622 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 7: if if the Steelers missed the playoffs this year after 623 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 7: starting four and one and the Ravens whatever, they were 624 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 7: one and five, the Tomlin thing is just runs course. 625 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 7: I do think Mike Tomlin would make a lot of 626 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 7: sense in New York. Would just give him some credibility, 627 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 7: he'd get a fresh start. I mean, Pete Carroll's been fired, 628 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 7: Belichick's been fired, Andy Reid's been fired. Like it's sports. 629 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 7: You can't just keep in thirty years to say, hey, 630 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 7: we never fire a coach. It's not working. If I'm him, like, 631 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 7: I'd want to go to the Giants and get a restart. 632 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: No question. 633 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: That's the voice of John METALCOF three. Now it's the 634 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: podcast download where you download podcasts in the volume podcast hour. John, 635 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: thanks so much for join us. 636 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 637 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 638 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: It's a Doug Outlieb Shore. You listen to Fox Sports Radio. 639 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: I heard where you so much to get to today 640 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: in the Doug Gottlieb Show. Today is a Tuesday, so 641 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: it's Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon coming up top 642 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: of the hour. 643 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: What is that segment? 644 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to the show, that's just it's 645 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: basically an NFL topic we want to get to. But 646 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: we had caught up in day ball getting fired. Another 647 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: of the top line it's some stuff that other people 648 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: might have missed. We didn't miss We want to get 649 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: to it upcoming at the top of the hour. Make 650 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: sure you check out our brand new YouTube channel. Just 651 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: search Doug Gottlieb Show on YouTube again. That's Doug Gottlieb Show. 652 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: Hit the subscribe button. Don't you stop there, Hit the 653 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: thumbs up by con comment away. Let me know if 654 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: you agree or disagree with my takes. You might absolutely 655 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: hate them. Just check out a brand new channel on 656 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: YouTube again search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe. Here's Dan 657 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Buyer with a game. 658 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 6: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 659 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: Douga Matt Gayton on this Tuesday is rank them all Right, 660 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: Doug ranked the top three teams in the NFL through 661 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: ten weeks of the season. 662 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 5: All right, Michael Jackson popcorn gif right now, I'm anxiously 663 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: awaiting this. This is my favorite part of the week. 664 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: Okay, number three, he. 665 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: Gets a popcorn Readynmber three, no birthree the Indianapolis Colts. 666 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: But the Colts at three, They're eight and two on 667 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: the year, Jonathan Taylor's MVP candidate. They have not lost 668 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: a game at home. Although it should be pointed out 669 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: they've played six at home and only four on the road, 670 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: so there should be smeevening out surprise team in the league. 671 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. Number number two, your 672 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams rebuilt the defense last year, Matt Stafford. 673 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole question is can he stay healthy? 674 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: But man is he nasty. He's been really And Number one, 675 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go filled up Eagles, going filled up Eagles. 676 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: I get it. They can win ugly, they can win 677 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: and lose ugly. But they just beat the Packers in 678 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay. They've beaten the Chiefs, they beaten the Rams. 679 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: We just listed in our top three, the beaten Buccaneers 680 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: by a playoff team on the road, and they won 681 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They got a good defense, they can 682 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: really run the football. They have talent on offense. I'll 683 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: go with the filled up Eagles number one. 684 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: All right, Jason Stewart, Does that satisfy your your itch 685 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: for some rankings? 686 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 5: Dan, if you're not going to voice your frustration resentment, 687 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 5: I'll do it for you. That's again he left the 688 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 5: Seahawks out of the top three. That's that's three or four? 689 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 5: What do the Seahawks need to do. 690 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they need to beat the Rams this Sunday on 691 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: the road in LA. That would be an automatic. That 692 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: would be a golden ticket in the Doug's top three 693 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: if they. 694 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: Run the same question. No question, the the golden ticket 695 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: in the top three. 696 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: The zero the Colts, by the way, five home games 697 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: because they just had the neutral game against the neutral 698 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: Syche game in Berlin this past weekend. But still an 699 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: impressive start for the for the Colts, who will have 700 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: a showdown with the Kansas City Chiefs after the Colts 701 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: by in week eleven. All Right, Doug, your top three 702 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 3: NFL MVP candidates through ten weeks of the year. 703 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: It's great question, great question, great question. Thank you, Doug. 704 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: I'll take it from here. 705 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 7: Take you, Doug, I'll take it from here. 706 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Number Number three justin Herbert. Not much in regards to 707 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: an offensive line, uh with with all the injuries. They've had, 708 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: massive injuries at running back, and he keeps putting up 709 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: numbers and winning games. Number two Drake May Drake May 710 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: the turnaround with the New England Patriots. It's not complete, 711 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: but it's happened, and I know their defense is much 712 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: part of the story. But he is the quarterback, and 713 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: number one to me is Jonathan Taylor. He's already got 714 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards rushing eleven hundred yards. His dads are 715 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of abscene there where. He's got eleven hundred yards 716 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: through ten games, and then receiving, he's got what thirty 717 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: catches thirty catch as well, which is a little low, 718 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: but he's on track to challenge for two thousand yards. Granted, 719 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: I know there's an additional game now as opposed to previously, 720 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: but he's on track to challenge for it. The culture 721 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: in first place, He's maybe the biggest reason why Jonathan 722 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Taylor's my number one MVP candidates now. 723 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: He's third right now according to bet Online, with the 724 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: shortest odds at seven to two. Drake may A second 725 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: at thirteen to four, and right now, the quarterback of 726 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams, Matthew Stafford atop those odds boards 727 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: at three to one. Justin Herbert for you, twenty eight 728 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: to one. Right now, he and Baker Mayfield have the 729 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: same odds of winning the MVP, all right, Rank your 730 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: top three coaches in college football. 731 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: In college football, college. 732 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: Football got some rankings coming out. 733 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: Tonight, Yeah, rank them. It's a hard one. 734 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: I still think I'm gonna put Kirby Smart at uh, 735 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: Kirby star Bit at one, okay, because he's national championships. 736 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Signetti at three only because he hasn't 737 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: won a championship yet. And then I'll put Ryan Day 738 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: at two. It's coming off a national championship. They're in 739 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: their number one in the country. I know people take 740 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: lots of shots on him, but predamn good beat Texas 741 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: start of the year. I'm gonna put Ryan Dad two. 742 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: All right. It is so so Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, Kirk. 743 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 3: And that's game time. 744 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 6: Game This is game time on the got Leaf. 745 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: Show, Snut got Leap Show on Fox Sports Radio. What 746 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: story did we not get to yesterday? 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