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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, presented by a DraftKings. I'm Gary

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Speaker 1: Downing and I'm joined today by Clifton Brown. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: took down the New York Giants thirty five to fourteen

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Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium. This was a business like win in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and the Ravens did exactly what

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Speaker 1: you wanted them to do. They went on the road,

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Speaker 1: they took care of business. They really dominated this game

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Speaker 1: from start to finish. And it's a happy train ride

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Speaker 1: home because the Ravens now are sitting at nine to

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Speaker 1: in a four game sprint to the finish here in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, and they played exactly the way you

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Speaker 1: want to see this team play coming off the bye week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously the Giants had come in lost eighth straight.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to give a team like that any hope.

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Speaker 2: Ravens coming off of buye historically have been great after

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Speaker 2: the bye under John Oarball. Yeah, they were well rested, focused,

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Speaker 2: talked all week about they weren't going to take the

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Speaker 2: they played.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Lamar Jackson was lights out and then defensively, you know,

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Speaker 2: really kept things in front of them as they've been

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Speaker 2: doing the last three or four weeks, didn't allow big plays.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, as the game went on, the Ravens just

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Speaker 2: showed it as a superior team. So check this one

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Speaker 2: off and now they can look forward to playing the

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Speaker 2: Steelers with momentum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think this was a game coming into

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Speaker 1: it that many Ravens fans were necessarily concerned about. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens were the biggest favorite of any game in the

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Speaker 1: entire league going into this one. By the time kickoff happened,

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Speaker 1: it was it was I think sixteen and a half

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Speaker 1: points in a lot of places. So everyone expected the

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Speaker 1: Ravens to win this game. But that, as the Ravens

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Speaker 1: said all week, that doesn't necessarily matter once things kick off,

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Speaker 1: and they learned that earlier this year. That was proven

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Speaker 1: when the two of their losses are in games that

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Speaker 1: they were also heavy favorites to win, and so they

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Speaker 1: knew that they had to take care of business. That

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Speaker 1: they couldn't certainly take the Giants lightly, and they played

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Speaker 1: the Other part of it is they play. It's one

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Speaker 1: thing to win the game, and that's at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, all that matters, but they look good

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Speaker 1: doing it. They played the way you want them to play.

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Speaker 1: The defense was good, the offense was explosive. This is

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Speaker 1: exactly the way you want to be playing coming off

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Speaker 1: a buy and going into this final stretch of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I thought it was interesting, you know,

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Speaker 2: early in the game, when you know, the Ravens didn't

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Speaker 2: just inside Giants territory, decided to pin them back.

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Speaker 3: That worked out well.

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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens just felt like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're going to just make sure that we lock down,

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Speaker 2: don't give the Giants any you know, early early momentum.

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Speaker 2: If we can avoid it, we don't have to be

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe as aggressive as we are sometimes as

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Speaker 2: far as taking chances offensively early that we don't have

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Speaker 2: to chase points the Giants. You know, they're team that

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Speaker 2: has trouble scoring. You know that there's a reason why

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Speaker 2: they had lost eight games.

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Speaker 3: In a row come in.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought that though it was a solid performance,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens have been very good over the years about

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Speaker 2: not overlooking people. And then frankly, you know, the losses

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Speaker 2: Ravens team. So yeah, I think the buy was a

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Speaker 2: really good way for everyone to reset and just focus

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Speaker 1: Annally, Yeah, I think that there clearly was a sense

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Speaker 1: it felt it all week, and then it was reiterated

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Speaker 1: I thought Rokwan Smith said it probably best when he

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Speaker 1: made the point after today's win that it felt like

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Speaker 1: it felt like a new season after the bye week,

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens played that way today and it just

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Speaker 1: good showing. And let's really dive in. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Ravens are now fourteen and three under John Horribaught after

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Speaker 1: We're gonna say comes obviously with the backsdrop that the

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Speaker 1: and they've got a lot of injuries and they're dealing

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Speaker 1: the Ravens were able to do that today and the offense,

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Speaker 1: I thought, just really is exactly what you wanted to see.

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Speaker 1: From the offense. Lamar Jackson was excellent. He got everybody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think eight different completed passes of

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Speaker 2: and so this was the type of game where you

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Speaker 2: Mark Andrews getting that record setter for him early. Should

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Speaker 2: It was just a complete team. Ever, the Giants didn't

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Speaker 2: many different ways. And so they took advantage of that.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully for their sake, this is the beginning of them

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Speaker 2: playing their best football from this point on. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the advantages of having a buy so late.

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Speaker 3: Back for the buy.

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Speaker 1: Some notes on Lamar Jackson. Another Jackson five in this game.

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Speaker 1: That's the second time this season five touchdowns, four incompletions

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Speaker 1: not bad, Cliff. I think if you can if you

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Speaker 1: Two hundred ninety passing yards, sixty five rushing yards, a

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Speaker 1: this is another remarkable sat on him, like you can

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Speaker 1: just keep going. It seems like every week. Also top

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Speaker 1: the second quarterback ever to do that. Michael Vick is

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Speaker 1: played with those numbers at quarterback. It's really a staggering

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Speaker 1: and he just does this so often that you kind

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Speaker 1: of become numb to all the different records and accolades

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Speaker 1: everybody involved in the action. It was. I've said before

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you that he is having his

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Speaker 3: So it's great to see it when it happens.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, everyone knows one of his superpowers

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Speaker 3: To run the football.

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Speaker 2: He runs the football better than any quarterback who's ever played.

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Speaker 2: And I think when defenses have to worry about not

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Speaker 2: He just puts so much pressure on the Giants defense

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Speaker 2: and it'll be interesting to see, you know, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: You know, me into a game where he's basically has

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Speaker 2: run it, I will. He's throwing a football great. The

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Speaker 2: buy and sink. It's going to be a fascinating matchup.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Lamar at his best, the Ravens are really

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Speaker 1: He had six carries for sixty five yards, and I

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Speaker 1: how it goes with him because he's running, he's running

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And and angry Lamar looked like an

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Speaker 1: is Yours. So this defense now, I think, continues to

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Speaker 2: see the changes working, a lot of these guys haven't played,

437
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: you know, as much together as you would think or

438
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: as you would maybe want earlier in the season.

439
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 3: They can get even better. I don't think they've they've

440
00:20:59,680 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 3: hit this.

441
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 2: So the defense looks like it could be peaking at

442
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: the right time. If that's true, combined with what they

443
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: do offensively, Yeah, that's the idea to play your best

444
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 2: football late.

445
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 3: It's not always.

446
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: Who's playing better, you know, up to Thanksgiving. It's usually

447
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: the team that hits its stride around this time of

448
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: year that goes on and does damage during the playoffs.

449
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: So the Ravens are showing the potential.

450
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: To be that type of team. And then obviously what

451
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: we see against the Steelers Sady will tell you even

452
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: more about where the Ravens are right now.

453
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: These last four games it's going Pittsburgh Chargers, Eagles, and

454
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: then Giants. Today, the Ravens are giving up nineteen point

455
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: seven points per game in those four and that's a

456
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: big difference from where they were earlier this season and

457
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: when you I said, when the Ravens were dealing with

458
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: the issues that they had earlier this year. With the

459
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: way that the offense is playing, that if you just

460
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: get the defense to being an adequate unit, Like if

461
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: they're playing if they're the fifteenth best defense, that's probably

462
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: going to be good enough for this team to maybe

463
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: go deep in the playoffs. And I think that we're

464
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: at that point, and I actually think that the defense

465
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: could be even better than kind of my expectations that

466
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: I just laid out there. I think that they they've

467
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: turned a corner in a way that I think that

468
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: there's real belief amongst that group and more it's looking

469
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot more like I expected it to coming into

470
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: the year. Still got a lot of really good players,

471
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: and we were all scratching our heads earlier this season

472
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: and say, what's going on with this defense because it

473
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: shouldn't be this bad. Well now it's not that bad anymore,

474
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: and they've cleaned up those issues as you just laid out,

475
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: And I just really feel like this defense is now

476
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: in a position where it could be a strength. It's

477
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: not just like holding water. I think it could be

478
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: a strength. And a couple of guys who the Ravens

479
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: got back in the lineup today who made a difference.

480
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: One is Michael Pierce and it's like he fills up

481
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: the stat sheet, but man, he fills up the line

482
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, takes on those blockers and opens things for

483
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: everybody else. You see a difference when he's in the lineup,

484
00:22:59,160 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: You do.

485
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: He's a proud I mean, yeah, it's he does not

486
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: move off his spot. He is very agile for a

487
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: guy his signs, and yet he definitely makes an impact,

488
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: particularly in the run game. It's just hard to run

489
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: against the Ravens when he's in the game playing the

490
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: way he did today.

491
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: And I know he's glad to be back.

492
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, the injury was tough for him, but now

493
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: he's not as beaten down maybe as in past years

494
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: and could really be in position to play his best

495
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: football now. And yeah, the Ravens just look they look

496
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: they're just more connected defensively on the mistakes, they aren't

497
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: giving teams anything.

498
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: You have to earn it.

499
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: Against the run, you see three or four guys in

500
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: the screen and pursued even if one guy misses the tackle,

501
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: reinforcements right behind it. In the passing game, guys you know,

502
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: are contesting balls as not wide open windows for receivers

503
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: to work in. That's what you need, I mean, to

504
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: be a great defense, Like they were saying earlier, in

505
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: the season. Something only takes one guy breaking down for

506
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 2: a big play to happen. So when you have eleven

507
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: guys on the same page, like the Ravens do now,

508
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: really more than eleven because when they rotate in other guys,

509
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: there's no slack off.

510
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: That's what you want to see. And they've got top end.

511
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: Players on defense, I mean Pro Bowl type, you know,

512
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: all pro players.

513
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: You know, Colin Hamilton, you know, no, I'm in a

514
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: roque one.

515
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: They have the talent to be a really good defense

516
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: and now it seems like it's coming together.

517
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: Another guy who returns to the lineup in this game

518
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: was Kyle van Noy got a sack in this one.

519
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: He's not got nine in the season, just another really

520
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: strong year from him. It's great to see the way

521
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: that he's playing, So getting him back on the lineup

522
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: was good. David Ajava also got a sack. You know,

523
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: it's not been the year that I think David Ajabo

524
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: certainly envisioned for himself. The Ravens hoped that he would have.

525
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Up to this point, he's been inactive at times and

526
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: he hasn't really been able to carve out a big

527
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: role in this defense. But It's good to see him

528
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: come up with a sack. And I will say one

529
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: thing about him is when he gets to the quarterback,

530
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: he tends to finish and get the guy to the ground.

531
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: He did that today, So maybe this is maybe this

532
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: can be a springboard for him. I hope that that

533
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: would be the case. Another thing I wanted to go ahead,

534
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: go ahead.

535
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if that happens, then yeah, Again, that's

536
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: a guy who we know the talented he has. It's

537
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: just injuries have really been hard for him the last

538
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: couple of years. But you know, if their pass rush,

539
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: you know, becomes you know what they think it can be,

540
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: and that's just another layer of the defense that you know,

541
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: could really make a difference in December, January, and hopefully

542
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: for them into February.

543
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: Now, as the coaches look at this and they're breakdown

544
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: the film and they get the team together for the

545
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: team meeting this week on defense, I'm sure that the

546
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: area they're going to be talking about needing to clean

547
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: up his penalties. That still was an issue that the Ravens,

548
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: they lead the league in penalties, continue to have too

549
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: many of them. They're two touchdown drives really were penalty

550
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: fueled drives, especially the first one. I think they had

551
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: four penalties on that drive. Pass interference, hands of the face,

552
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: roughing the passer, you name it. Those are things that

553
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: they need to They didn't hurt the Ravens today, so

554
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: it's not really worth dwelling on. But in a in

555
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: a big game and a game against the Steelers in

556
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: a playoff game like those are the types of things

557
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: that extend drives and can hurt you, and they need

558
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: they need to cut those out absolutely.

559
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know it's good that it happen

560
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: in that this week, they can't feel like, Okay, that's

561
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: something that's behind them because it's obviously not. And they

562
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 2: know against the team like the Steelers, you give them

563
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: extra plays, you know, then you're just asking for trouble.

564
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean they're they're creative. Is not like

565
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: one or two guys, and it's not like one or

566
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: two types of penalties. I mean the Ravens, Yeah, they're

567
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: like basket Robbins when it comes to penalties. I mean,

568
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: they they'll give you, they'll give you the whole bag.

569
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: They've got to cut that out this late in the season.

570
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: You really do do want that to be something that's

571
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: in check. So that is something that they haven't gotten

572
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: a handle on yet. They're well aware of it, but

573
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: you have to go beyond talking about it into making

574
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: it happen.

575
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: And yes, I mean if they were.

576
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: Able to think about you know what the Ravens would

577
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: be if they were just like middle of the pack

578
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: in penalties. I mean, you know, so if they can

579
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: get to that level, just like you know, you were

580
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: talking about the defense, if they can just get to

581
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: a certain level, if they can just become a team

582
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: that's not one of the most penalized, that will help

583
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: them win some of these key games down the stretch.

584
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: And then special teams I thought had a good day.

585
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: It was nice to see them break a couple of returns.

586
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Justice Hill had a big return to open the game. Interesting.

587
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Desmond King comes in. He's activate in the practice squad.

588
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: The Ravens picked him up in the middle of this year.

589
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: He gets he gets called up as a game day

590
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: elevation and assumes the starting punt returner role. Not sure

591
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: if that's going to be the game plan moving forward

592
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: or if Tiler Wallace is going to move back there.

593
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 1: Desmond King look pretty good back there, so that he

594
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: may he may have earned himself a spot as his

595
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: team's punp returner Tyler and didn't have a good day

596
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, but he's had some big plays obviously

597
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: as a punt returner over the past couple of years.

598
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know what direction the Ravens will go there,

599
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: But Denis mc king is another guy that's in that mix,

600
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: and the special teams, and then of course Justin Tucker.

601
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: We spent how much time did we talk about Justin

602
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Tucker over the course of the bye week. Did not

603
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: attempt any field goals in this game because the Ravens

604
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: was scoring touchdowns on basically ever drive, but he made

605
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: all of his extra points look good doing it, and

606
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was good because against the Eagles, the

607
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: first thing that went awry for him in that game

608
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: was the missed extra point when the Ravens had a

609
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: chance to go up ten nothing. So he drills all

610
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: of his extra points, which I think is a good

611
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: sign for him and the special teams unit overall.

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, I mean, I thought special teams had

613
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: a really good day and yeat King, I mean he

614
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: moved up and made the catch on the punt even

615
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: before he made his run. It was good that he

616
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, was aggressive, not letting in the ball roll

617
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: you know, had something that has hurt the Ravens on punts,

618
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, Tony lowing punters to get extra yards because

619
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: you know that wasn't made on the play. So yeah,

620
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, I'd be surprised if he

621
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: didn't earn at least another week back there with the

622
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: way he field at punts. And then yeah, as you mentioned,

623
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: you know Tucker, you know, not getting an opportunity to kick.

624
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: A field, but I'm sure he wanted one.

625
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, it gave him a week where

626
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: you know, he did, he made all the extra points.

627
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: He I think maybe you know, certainly moving forward, we'll

628
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: see how you know, he reacts to you know, I

629
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: think the Bob was helpful for him at that time.

630
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean, there was so much attention on Justin you know,

631
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: and his struggles that I think getting away probably helped him.

632
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: You know, he said, you know, he continued to be

633
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: around and work. We know, just as a perfectionist, we

634
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: know he's been the goat for so long. I definitely

635
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, I'm confident in what he's going

636
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: to do moving forward. But you know, today I thought

637
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens collectively as special.

638
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Teams, it really helped them.

639
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: You know, they they've made some positive plays then again

640
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: went along with everything else they did to win the

641
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: game totally.

642
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: Now the Ravens have a short week here and they

643
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: go into the stretch where they play on Saturday against

644
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers in Baltimore, then on a Wednesday, Christmas Day

645
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: in Houston against the Texans. So kind of a crazy

646
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: stretch here, three games in eleven days. And they were

647
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: saying as soon as this one was over that they've

648
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: turned the page and they're focused on the Steelers. I

649
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: do think when you're playing on a short week, it

650
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: is somewhat beneficial when you play a team, you know,

651
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to go back to the drawing board

652
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: and figure everything out. Ravens though the Steelers as well

653
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: as anybody, they just have to go and beat them,

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Speaker 1: do the things, the simple things needed in order to

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Speaker 1: win that game. So it's going to be a short

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Speaker 1: Ravens in this division race. Really important game. So but

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Speaker 1: they'll enjoy this one for I think the train ride

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Speaker 1: back and then turn the page to the Pittsburgh Steelers. So,

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Speaker 1: as always, you can email us the lounge at Ravens

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Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. It's a good win. It's nice

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Speaker 1: to win these games, and the Ravens are certainly feeling

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Speaker 1: pretty good after being able to take care of business

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Speaker 1: at Mattlife Stadium. Thank you so much for listening. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with you again later this week.