1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week seventeen edition. Jonathan Gannon 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: heads back to Philly. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Zach Gershman joins me. By the way, Young Zach is 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: also heading back to Philly. Who are the Eagles fans 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: more excited to see? I think the choice is obvious? 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: And then when the game kicks off? Who will be 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: QB one for the Cardinals? The latest on Kyle the 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Murray is coming up? Plus more on the game itself 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: one of the more anticipated meetings of the year. Daves Bdero, 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: he covers the Eagles for Philadelphia Eagles dot Com, joins 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the show. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven fifteen, and 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: it starts now. 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: Wood to Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd, partner of 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts is a 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Cardinals dot com slash podcasts. 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: He said a ten half of five. He's it again, 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: So more Perry Magic. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig griolud? 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: So did you happen to notice this song that was 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: being played? As we walked out to practice on Friday. 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: Why can't we be friends? Come on? Every way? 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Clap wasn't asking you to sing it? 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: But then if I just said it like why can't 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: we be friends, people would be like, huh, but you 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: do it at the tone. 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious based off the Cardinals going to Philadelphia, the 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: storyline all week head coach Jonathan Gannon making his return 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: not expected to be a welcome return at least amongst 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: the fans, was this an attempt to maybe change a 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: little bit of what maybe is to be expected. 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: I don't think the Cardinals are going in with any 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: bad blood. Oh no, I think it's the Eagles that 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: in the in their fan base that you have that 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: ankst towards Jonathan Gannon. So I'm not sure if that 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: was like a plead of like, I can't we be friends? 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: Like ahead of time so that the booze, you know, 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: dropped down maybe a decibel, but I doubt it anyway. 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no chance in that happening at all. Cardinals at 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles On Sunday, New Year's Eve Day, eleven am 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: is the kickoff six thirty AM. Pregame coverage begins on 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. God willing my voice will 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: hold up for the entire week and on Sunday and 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: for the rest of the regular season. A week ago, 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: it was me giving you a little hard time about 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: your voice based off of workout one. Are you still 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: working out? 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: I am? 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: I am to my personal trainer there actually used to 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: play for the Cowboys in the nineties on the practice squad. 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah. 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: When I told him, you know, my upbringing and everything, 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: it was that's two good conversations. I survived. 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Okay, good. 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: I didn't think I was going to. But we're still kicking. 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: It's not like a New Year's resolution, like New Year, 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: New me, and you sign up for the gym, then 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: you back out three weeks later. It's not I know, 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: like a lot of gyms out there like specifically do 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: like sign ups. Yeah around that, but nope, not not 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: with me. 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Okay me. I'm just battling a head cold. So that's 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the reason why I sound the way I sound. 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: Look, I think the diehard you know covered two listeners 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: they're they're probably like what am I listening to right now? 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: But you know what they're Bye by Sunday, Jonathan Ganna 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: will make his return, your voice will make its return, 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: and all be good. I'm sprinkling the positive vibes. No 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: one else could see, but I'm sprinkling. 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, good news. Let's hope for good news. And a 73 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: little bit later on, you had the opportunity to speak 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: with Dave's Badero Philadelphia Eagles dot Com on this matchup. 75 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: We'll hear that interview momentarily. But first things first, the 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: news of the day, and yes, Kyler Murray is practicing, 77 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: and yes, Kyler Murray is expected to be good to 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: go on Sunday after not practicing Wednesday. Thursday. 79 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely gonna be a huge use to have out 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: there because when a lot of Jonathan Gannon said that 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: he got the mental reps in on Thursday, which is great, 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: but as you're gonna be working and this isn't much 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: of a practice on Friday. It's more of a walk through, 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: you know, ganging ready to go before you head out 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: onto the plane later on Friday. But it's good to 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: have k one back. I think he is the type 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: of voice, in the type of leader that this team 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: needs out there. 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: And the type of player right now in year five 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that can afford to miss a couple of days of 91 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: practice and still play on Sunday. As Gannon said, it's 92 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: not like he's a rookie. Rookies need those reps. But 93 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray I think will be just fine on Sunday. 94 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: He will, not, however, have the opportunity to throw the 95 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: football to his good friend college teammate Hollywood Brown. In fact, 96 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: Brown is done for the season. That heel injury is 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: going to land him on injured reserve, which is an 98 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: unfortunate for him but probably the best interest in the player. 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: As Gannon mentioned on Friday, needs time to let that 100 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: heal heal up, and he's not going to be able 101 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: to have that time if you're practicing or playing. 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 3: It's one of those nagging injuries that Hollywood Brown simply 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: was not able to shake in. I appreciate it, and 104 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon very you know, astutely said out loud how 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: much he appreciates Hollywood Brown's eagerness to play and try 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: to persevere and push through this injury. But to a 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: certain extent, And we've talked about this a handful of 108 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: different times when covered two as Hollywood's been dealing with 109 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: this injury, how much are you helping yourself versus helping 110 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: the team? In this case, you're trying to do both, 111 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: helping Hollywood Brown, give him the opportunity to heal. It 112 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's going to be any surgery or 113 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: any long term procedure. It's just going to be a 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: matter of taking some time to heal. But it stinks 115 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: because Hollywood Brown is in his contract year and you 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: could you know, that's something Drew Terrell said at practice 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: on Friday last week when he said, we recognize that, 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: and Hollywood recognizes that, and unfortunately this is the way 119 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: that it goes though NFL. There's a lot of injury. 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: So Hollywood is headed to IR. Jonathan Ledbetter is headed 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: to IR. Now, we did get news on Friday Lucky Fotwo, 122 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: who was designated to return earlier this week, is not 123 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: expected to be activated this week. Don't know about Bobby Price, 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: who's practice window opened up two weeks ago. So with 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Hollywood and Ledbetter going on IR, that does open up 126 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: two roster spots. We'll see what the Cardinals decide to 127 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: do with those two roster spots between Friday and Sunday. 128 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Some good news though on the injury a front, Zavian 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Collins is good to go, and both Victor d. Mucagee 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and Garrett Williams, who missed last week's game, have been 131 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: practicing all week long. They'll be back for the Cardinals defense. 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: You need as many of those pieces on the defensive 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: side of the ball as you could get. When you 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: have a guy like Jalen Hurts and the weapons and 135 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard and AJ Brown and Devonte Smith, you need 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: as much and especially with that defensive line. So let 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: mean wait, in general, with that offensive line, rather the 138 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: defensive line is going to need that help. They brought 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: up Phil Hoskins to the roster, they signed him, so 140 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: you're trying to do whatever you can. Again, you need 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: as many defensive pieces out there. 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: Now. 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: It is Scannon's I wouldn't call it a homecoming. 144 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: That's the terms that he was coming to mind though. 145 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: But he's not from there. He just spent the past 146 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: couple of years there. 147 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were we really calling it a homecoming 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: when he went back to Cleveland. 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: No, we weren't, you know. 150 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: So I feel like this is more of like this 151 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: is the closest thing to a homecoming. We weren't calling 152 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: it a little bit he's going back home, but it 153 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: didn't really come out as a homecoming. I think in 154 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: this one though, it's the place where Jonathan Gannon kind 155 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: of became a little bit more of a well known 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: name in the NFL. Obviously, the people within the NFL 157 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: circles knew who Johnathan Agannon was ahead of his time 158 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia, but once you have a defense like he 159 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: had last year in Philadelphia that went to the super Bowl, 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: he became a little bit more well known. 161 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Now it is your homecoming, Now that's true. 162 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: Now that is my homecoming. 163 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: You get to go on this trip. 164 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited for this one, the last road trip 165 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: of the season, trip, my first outside of the one 166 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles obviously that we were both on, but 167 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: that was that was everybody. But I'm excited to go back. 168 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: A lot of people here have been asking about the 169 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: different recommendations, the best cheese steak spots, you know, everything 170 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 3: like that. I'm just telling people, don't go to Pats 171 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: or Genos unless you want to be a tourist. If 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: you want an authentic cheese steak, you gotta go to 173 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: you know, the places in the townhouses and everything like that, 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: because that's the authentic Philly cheese steak. 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Okay, good news, Good listen there, Zach Gershman on the 176 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: details on what to and how to survive Philadelphia. 177 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: Speaking of Oh, that's not how to survive. We're gonna 178 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. Fonds are gonna yeah, get by the Cardinals 179 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: fans are gonna learn very quickly. You're wearing a different 180 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 3: color than the midnight green that they have over there. 181 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: You might have a you might have an ear full now. 182 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Dave Spinero covers the philadelph Philadelphia Eagles 183 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: for philadelphiae Eagles dot Com. You had the opportunity to 184 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: speak with him earlier in the week, and your conversation 185 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: began with the obvious No, not your homecoming, but Gannon's homecoming, 186 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: or at least return to Philadelphia is something that Gannon 187 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: has downplayed all a week. So does Dave believe this 188 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: is just another game for the former Eagles defensive coordinator. 189 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: Heck no, I mean he wants to come in here 190 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: and give it to his former colleagues with the Philadelphia Eagles, 191 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: and I understand that. I mean, look, JG is as 192 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 4: competitive as anybody I've ever met in the coaching ranks 193 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: with the Philadelphia Eagles in thirty seasons, and I know 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: that it means something to him. I mean, he really 195 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: appreciates Nick Sirianni Sirianny gave him a shot. Jeffrey Lorie 196 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: certainly was extremely supportive. There is no bad blood per se, 197 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: but it's just a natural kind of competition that everybody 198 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 4: expects and feels and that gets everybody through the week. 199 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: That's why they're in this league. They're in this league 200 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: for the competition. And I know that it's been a 201 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: struggling season for the Cardinals. I'm sure that Jonathan anticipated 202 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: that happening, but this one will be special and I 203 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: think fans will recognize it. I'm not sure the players 204 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: really give a hoot. I mean, the Eagles, even at 205 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: eleven and four here, you know how it is in Philly. 206 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: It's always something and they have other things to worry about. 207 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: But I think from just a pure competition standpoint and 208 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 4: love of the game, this means something for Jonathan Gannon. 209 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: We'll get into the Philadelphia Eagles season just a few minutes, 210 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: but one more question here about JG. I know Nick 211 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: Sirianni gave him a shot at defensive coordinator. He also 212 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: took a couple of shots in a friendly way on 213 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: WIP earlier this week, saying that and he told John 214 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: again in this and JG laughed it off at the media, 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: saying that they don't want John to Gannett to come 216 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: back to Philadelphia. That's how uncomfortable he wants to make it. 217 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: What kind of reaction do you expect JG gets once 218 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: he jogs out to the link. 219 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: Oh, there's no doubt the fans will notice, and they 220 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: will give him a throaty Philadelphia lusty boo and move 221 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: on with the game. But I mean, look the way 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: it ended in Philly, I understand and how the fans feel. 223 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: I think that there is a sense of scapegoating. I 224 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 4: think John. I don't think anything that Jonathan did impacted 225 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: the Eagles in the Super Bowl. They were great defensively 226 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: in the first half. 227 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: They were unable to get off the field the second half. 228 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: And we all have to move on. But the Eagles fans, 229 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: they're not gonna move on so quickly. 230 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the rational side of the Philadelphia sports fan isn't 231 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: the Uh, that's not necessarily the term that that the 232 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: Phillies sports fan is normally gonna get. But speaking of 233 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: moving on, moving on to the Philadelphia Eagles defense at 234 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: its current form. Obviously, they decided to go with Sean 235 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: Decize the defensive coordinator to start the season, Matt Patricia 236 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: taking over as of a few weeks ago. How has 237 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: the team, in your eyes, responded to the change on 238 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. 239 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think they've been better. But the 240 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: caveat here is that they played against Drew Locke and 241 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: then you know Tommy DeVito slash Tyrod Taylor. After a 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: season of two games against Dak Prescott and Josh Allen 243 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,239 Speaker 4: and Patrick Mahomes and Matt Stafford except et cetera, et cetera. 244 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: But the defense has gotten off the field much better. 245 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: On third downs, they have looked more cohesive. They've given 246 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: a lot of young players look I feel like and 247 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: I think Matt has done has done this. He's used 248 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: these last few games here to kind of see what 249 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: he has and see what he can count on when 250 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: the postseason comes. So he's gone through a lot of rookies. 251 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: The Eagles started three of them on Monday against the Giants, 252 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: and for another one had a lot of playing time 253 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: in Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith at the playing time. 254 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: So I mean he's trying to figure out the right formula. 255 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: That the numbers are down from last year, and somehow 256 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: he's got to be better, get this defense better at 257 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: rushing the quarterback and getting home and taking the football away. 258 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: That is something that Jonathan Gannon's defense did very well 259 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia and something that they've really stepped off and 260 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: fallen off in twenty twenty three. 261 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: It's something on Nick Rolis is definitely trying to replicate here. 262 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: But the defense that Jonathan Gannon had at Philadelphia last year, 263 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: especially with some of the stars and the studs that 264 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,119 Speaker 3: they've had to have those seventy sacks like the Philadelphia 265 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: Eagles did last year was not by a mistake. You 266 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: mentioned a little bit about the rookies, and you wrote 267 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: an article on Philadelphia Eagles dot com about Keieley Ringo 268 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: and the impact that the rookie class has had on 269 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: the defensive side. How have you seen players like Kilo, 270 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: like Akille and Nolan Smith and Jalen Carter mature as 271 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: the years progress. Has it just simply been reps are 272 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: golden and you're gonna go as the season progresses or 273 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: what have you seen? 274 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: Well, Zach, I'll say you initial the initial observation was 275 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: that Jalen Carter is incredibly talented and if his career 276 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: continues to progress, he will be one of the dominant 277 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: defensive players in this league for many years to come. 278 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 4: He's had five quarterback secs, but really you can't measure 279 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: his impact in numbers. He gets double teams on every 280 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: snap when he doesn't when those rare occasions when he doesn't, 281 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: he just swats offensive line in the side. Now he's 282 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 4: maybe hit a little rookie wall a little bit from 283 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: a production standpoint in these last few weeks, so he's 284 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: kind of his playing time is taped off a bit. 285 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: I think they want to ramp them back up for 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: the playoffs. So Jalen Carter stud Nolan Smith, interesting guy. 287 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: Came in at the same position that Hassan Redick former 288 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: Cardinal plays, so it's been tough for him to get 289 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: on the field. Patricia used both of them on the 290 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: field at the same time on Monday night, so that 291 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: was interesting to see and we'll see what happens moving 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: forward with that, but instinctive, hard worker, really physical, sets 293 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: the edge against the run, and Ben's like very few 294 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: players I've seen, so I think he's got a really 295 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: really bright future. Kaylee Ringos come on, and the Eagles 296 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: have had some questions at cornerback with some big plays 297 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: they've given up and including a touchdown pass that Drew 298 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: lock through in the closing seconds to have the Eagles 299 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: lose a game in Seattle. James Bradbury's kind of been 300 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: targeted a bit, so Ringo's played with Darius slay out 301 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: and Ringos played well. Now the again, you have to 302 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: kind of just cushion this and say it's been Drew Locke, 303 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: it's been Tommy DeVito, it's been Tyrod Taylor. But there 304 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: is a lot of optimism around Ringo. Sidney Brown has 305 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: played extremely well as a kind of do it all 306 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: defensive back. He plays some safety, he plays in the nickel, 307 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: really aggressive, runs around, flies to the football, has a 308 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: really nice future with the Eagles. So there are some 309 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: young pieces to build around here, and the Eagles aren't. 310 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: I've just not been afraid to insert them and moving 311 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: forward here as the postseason arrives, they're gonna be counting 312 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 4: on some rookies to step. 313 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: Up before we go over to the offense side of 314 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: the ball. Speaking with Davis Fadaarro from Phladelphia Eagles dot com. 315 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: Another young member of the secondary, Reid Blankenship. He's not 316 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: a name that most Cardinal fans are gonna recognize or 317 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: is going to pop off the page like a Brandon 318 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: Graham or a Fletcher Cox, but he leads the Eagles 319 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: with ninety two tackles. Last week he was the green 320 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: dot and as a safety, don't normally seen that being 321 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: a second year player. How have you seen him kind 322 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: of grow into that role? 323 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 324 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: He went from last year being a really good training 325 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: camp story, five year player at Middle Tennessee State, captain 326 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: multiple years, highly productive there, doesn't get drafted, makes the team, 327 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: and then on a Monday night game against the Packers, 328 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: intercepts Aaron Rodgers and wow, what a great story. He's 329 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: gone from that to really being their key guy in 330 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: the defensive secondary in terms of his starter logging, tons 331 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: of reps, big plays around the football, a lot, very 332 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: cerebral guy. He gave up a big touchdown pass last week, 333 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: So I mean, look, you got to make sure that 334 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: you have ample coverage in some of those deep routes. 335 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm an offensive coordinator, I want to 336 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: get after him and make him sure that he can run. 337 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: And last week he gave up a big touchdown catch 338 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: and run. So but for the most part, he's in 339 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: the right place. He's a really smart guy. He tackles well, 340 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: very physical, solid, solid player safety position. 341 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: Is his Southern accent really as strong as he made 342 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: it seem, because I know he spoke to the media 343 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: earlier this week and he said being the green dot, 344 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: he felt that that could have that might have had 345 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: an impact. 346 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe, but I mean I think he'll it'll it'll 347 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 4: filly up soon. But they also also the Eagles will 348 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: get their their linebackers back. It's really he's the green 349 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: dot when they had literally no Nick Morrow, know, Zach 350 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 4: Cunningham at linebacker. You know, Shaquille Leonards only been here 351 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: for a few weeks. Ben Van Summer and is an 352 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie who saw his the most playing time of 353 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: his NFL career. So while Reid is a worthy green 354 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: dot defensive player, I think Nick Morrow ideally is the 355 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 4: one to translate to the rest of the defense. 356 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, before we know he's going to be saying John 357 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: and wood are instead of water and using any other Now. 358 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: It's very phillyed up here. 359 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 5: It doesn't doesn't take long to get all wooded up 360 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: in Philadelphia. 361 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: Speaking of getting phillied up, the tension in the on 362 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: the Eagles offensive side of the ball. Obviously, they hold 363 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: themselves to a standard. Jalen always says, the standards of 364 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 3: the standard keep the main thing, the main thing. Do 365 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: you feel after the win against the Giants and kind 366 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: of snapping that losing skid that the tension has kind 367 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: of eased in the Eagles offense a little bit? Maybe? 368 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: I mean the challenge with this defense the offense is 369 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: that they've just been so up and down with their 370 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: red zone performance and with the giveaways. And I think 371 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: that's really when you point to the Eagles and you know, 372 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 4: I know, like it's hard for people in other football 373 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: markets to understand this, but an eleven and fourteen is 374 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: generally kind of a cause of celebration for the fans. 375 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 4: But in Philly, it's been a lot of angst this season. 376 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of it is the offense. 377 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: Is turned the football over so very much. 378 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: Jalen hurts last year eight giveaways this season eighteen. Their 379 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: red zone performance has been up and down. At one 380 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: point they scored touchdowns on ten straight possessions in the 381 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: red zone and then you look at a game like 382 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: Monday night and they were two of five in the 383 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: red zone against the Giants've been able to move the 384 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: football and statistically they're in the top ten in yards 385 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: in touchdowns. They've had good balance. Aj Brown and Devontae 386 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: Smith are two really good wide receivers, both of whom 387 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 4: are over a thousand yards. Dallas Goddard is healthy at 388 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 4: tight end, and yet the offense hasn't performed as the 389 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: Eagles fan base and really the Eagles would like. I mean, 390 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: they've trailed for much of the season at halftime, so 391 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 4: they've kind of had to fashion these late game comebacks 392 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: and they've kind of been living on the edge, and 393 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: so you think last week maybe they turned a corner. 394 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: They really went up and down the field against the Giants. Again, 395 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: just two of five in the red zone. That's a struggle, 396 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 4: but there was a lot of promise. They moved the 397 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: football really well, and I think they hope here that 398 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: these last two games against Arizona against the Giants in 399 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: Week eighteen, that they can smooth out all these wrinkles 400 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: and really be in top form heading into the postseason. 401 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: The Eagles are going to be a dangerous team to beat, 402 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 4: difficult team to beat in the postseason, and they are 403 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: capable of scoring as they did against the Bills and 404 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: a comeback win. They scored five of their last six possessions. 405 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: For those possessions touchdowns, they were unstoppable, So you know, 406 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: that's what they want to get back to. 407 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: I think the key point and something that Jason Kelsey 408 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: spoke on his New Heights podcast about was that even 409 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: after the pick six that Jalen Hurts through, they were 410 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 3: the message was we're still driving down the field and 411 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: that's something that you know as a positive. And you 412 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: mentioned the turnovers. Jalen Hurts, according to the Next Gen Stats, 413 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: has thrown an NFL worse thirteen interceptions from inside the 414 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: pocket in twenty twenty three. So definitely not the same 415 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts in the same offense that we saw in 416 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two that took the Eagles to the Super 417 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: Bowl where they did play here at State Farm Stadium. 418 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: But are you surprised to see the passing numbers go 419 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: down a little bit, And what do you think Jalen 420 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: Hurts needs to do to kind of turn it around 421 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: before they do go into the playoffs. 422 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am surprised, Zach and the turnovers. I think 423 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: I would point to everything starting from there. But yeah, 424 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: for sure, you know. And also the other part is 425 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: they really haven't been as in the explosive passing game 426 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: as they were last year. And so I think what 427 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: has happened is defenses are and I'll be really really 428 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: interested to see what the Cardinals try to do against 429 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 4: Jalen and this Eagles offense on Sunday. It's he was 430 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 4: so effective when he had an opportunity to run the football. 431 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: His numbers are down running the football. Teams have largely 432 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: come in and said, all right, we're gonna try to do. 433 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: Everything we can to take away the Jalen Hurts. 434 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: Run game, and we're gonna make him win from inside 435 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 4: the pocket. And there have been some games when he's 436 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: done that. He's played really well Washington, the Rams just 437 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: terrific throws, really played well from inside the pocket. Other 438 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: times has had trouble moving the football on a consistent basis. 439 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: Zone defenses that have been the problem. The turnovers again 440 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: just a huge, huge impediment for this offense to achieve 441 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: any consistency. And I think really the product is that 442 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: that defenses have kind of collectively said, we're not gonna 443 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: blitz Jalen Hurts as much. We're gonna mush rush, We're 444 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: gonna contain him, We're not gonna give him the runing 445 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: lanes torect to give me the edge if they want 446 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: to win, win from the pockets. And now the Eagles 447 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 4: are eleven and four and the numbers are good, but 448 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: I think there have been front times of frustration and 449 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: that's when you've seen players kind of losing their cool 450 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 4: a little bit or just kind of expressing that frustration. 451 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: And so the Eagles have to counter that. And they 452 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: think that what they did on Sunday against the Giants, 453 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: and mix of the blitz from the Giants a lot 454 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: of blitz from Wink Martindale, kind of gave them an 455 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 4: opportunity to say, all right, this is what the offense 456 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: is going to be. What is the personality of this offense. 457 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna run the football, yeah we can, but let's open. 458 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: It up person in the passing game. 459 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 4: At one point in Monday's game, the fans were chanting, 460 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 4: run the ball, run the ball, and it took a 461 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: a thirty two yard pass completion on third and twenty 462 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: to aj Brown to kind of open things up, and. 463 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 5: Then the Eagles ran the football very effectively in the 464 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 5: fourth quarter. 465 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 3: That's one of the areas of emphasis this week for 466 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 3: this Cardinals team after last week with Justin Fields. One 467 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: of the reasons that the Cardinals lost the game, according 468 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: to john Again, it was the play extension. Having a 469 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: mobile quarterback that could sit back in the pocket and 470 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: could hurt you with his arm, but if you let 471 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: the play extend long enough, he's gonna make something happen. 472 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: And that's why Johnathan Gannon said that Jalen hurts. They 473 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: gotta be prepared for because he's one of the best 474 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: in the world. And I want to talk a little 475 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: bit about the chant from the Philadelphia fan base. The 476 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: Cardinals are dead last in the NFL at rushing defense, 477 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: allowing one hundred and forty seven yards per game, and 478 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: with the Johnathan ledbetter, the Cardinals kind of staple defensive 479 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: lineman out now for the rest of the season with 480 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: the knee injury, is it your expectation to see a 481 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: lot of DeAndre Swift and Kenny Gainwell in this one. 482 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: You know, it depends on how the Cardinals play it. 483 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: Are they gonna play with a heavy box, They're gonna 484 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: play with a light box, And I mean if they're 485 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: coming in with a heavy box, then it would not 486 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: be a smart thing to run the football, you know, 487 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 4: if you're going to heavy box, throw the football. So 488 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 4: I don't know how JJ's gonna play, how Nick's gonna 489 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 4: play it, but yeah, I mean, look, I think the Eagles, 490 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: in theory, should have an opportunity to run the football. 491 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like this team believes that it 492 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: can run the football against anyone, big, strong offensive line, 493 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: one of the best in the league. DeAndre Swift is 494 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: twelve yards away from his first thousand yard season. He's 495 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: been outstanding, really elusive, good on the edges, much tougher 496 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: inside than I thought he would be. So I think 497 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: everybody feels like the Eagles, if they want to run 498 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: the football, they can run the football. I just don't 499 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: know how the Cardinals plan to play it, because you know, 500 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: ideally Philadelphia wants to throw the football to set up 501 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: the run and that's where they've kind of been missing again. 502 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 4: But the gash plays, the chunk plays, there haven't been 503 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: as many of them. So I think ideally the Eagles 504 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: come out throwing the football, get a lead, and then 505 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: run it. 506 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 3: Last question for you here, Dave, and appreciate you taking 507 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: all the time for us here on Cardinals cover too. 508 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: The term that has been used a lot in that 509 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: Eagles locker room, at least through the media, has been 510 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: unsatisfied on both sides of the ball. Obviously, a win 511 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: is gonna satisfy the desire to hopefully continue your way 512 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: to gain that number one seed. But what needs to 513 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: happen in this one against the Arizona Cardinals for the 514 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: Eagles to say, all right, we're satisfied. Yeah. 515 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: I think the key is really just ball security. And 516 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: again I can't overstate how much it has hurt the 517 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 4: Eagles turning the football over and so I think whatever 518 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 4: kind of pressure that Nick Rolis and Jonathan Gannon draw up, 519 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 4: the Eagles have to have an answer for it, and 520 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: then the rest takes care of itself. I mean, I 521 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: think the Eagles feel like they match up pretty well 522 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 4: from a personnel standpoint getting into the red zones. Scoring 523 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: touchdowns means a lot, you know. I think it just 524 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: comes down to this as well, starting fast, and they 525 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 4: did it against the Giants. They moved the football. They 526 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: have twenty to three lead at halftime, and then a 527 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: couple of freak plays a kickoff return where the returner 528 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: ran into another a teammate, the ballpop loose, Giants re 529 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: cover scored a touchdown. Two plays later, an out route 530 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: from Dallas at the Eagles tight end, he slips ball, 531 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: gets intercepted, return seventy six yards for a touchdown. All 532 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: of a sudden ball game. So I think, you know, again, 533 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: start really fast, go vertical on the Cardinals, if the 534 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: opportunity is there, stay on the field. This is a 535 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 4: very good third down offense, one of the best in 536 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 4: the NFL. Number two, I believe. And when you're in 537 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: the red zone, score touchdowns, and I think everybody in 538 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: Philadelphia will feel like it's a great way to end 539 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three and that there are good things ahead 540 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. 541 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: Dave, you're the man. I appreciate you a ton for 542 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: this one my pleasure. 543 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: Happy New Year to you, and thanks so much for 544 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: having me. 545 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Good conversation there the Zach between you and Dave. Obviously, 546 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: if you couldn't tell, we'll let the cat out of 547 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the bag now that you two, you and Dave have 548 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: a previous relationship, You've worked together before, and it certainly 549 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: came across in that conversation. 550 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 3: I'm glad it did. Dave's a great guy who's been 551 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: a mentor of mine throughout me going through high school 552 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: and college. I interviewed him when I had my Zach 553 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: on Supports YouTube channel and I was interviewing all these 554 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: different guests in the Philadelphia sports world, media landscape, everything 555 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 3: like that, and I went to Novacare Complex right after 556 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles won the Super Bowl and I interviewed him 557 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: inside their TV facility, and seeing what he did with 558 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles kind of inspired me that this is one 559 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: of the career paths that I wanted to go down, 560 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 3: working with the team directly. So Dave's awesome. Dave's a 561 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 3: great guy. I'm excited to see him when we get 562 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: back to Philly on Sunday. 563 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: Again for his perspective on the matchup. Philadelphia Eagles dot 564 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Com and then of course Easy Cardinals dot Com. As 565 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: far as what you wrote, this week, Zach, your three 566 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: big things for this matchup week seventeen Cardinals three and twelve, 567 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: Eagles eleven and four. New Year's Eve Day, last road 568 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: trip of the season, second to last game of the 569 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: regular season. But if the Cardinals are going to surprise 570 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: people on Sunday, what needs to happen. 571 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 3: A lot needs to happen for them to surprise the 572 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. I do think that if there's one thing 573 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: going their way, and it's one of the things I 574 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: talked about in my three Big Day and I spoke 575 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: a little bit about it with David the interview. There 576 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: has been some tension in that locker room especially, and 577 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: it's been very public and a lot of times when 578 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 3: you're losing games, the tension and the animosity that you 579 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: have towards your teammates or your displeasure becomes quite public. 580 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles, even at eleven wins so far this 581 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: season and they had that three game losing skid, they're 582 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: not satisfied. And that's one of the terms we talked about, 583 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: is how they felt unsatisfied and you could try to 584 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: take advantage of that with a guy like Aj Brown 585 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: DeVonta Smith because of the fact that you could tell 586 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: how emotionally they're in it. But when you're too emotional, 587 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: that could also hurt you. At times, you know, your 588 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: emotions could get the best of you. When it comes 589 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: to the cornerbacks. You got to be able to limit 590 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: those two wide receivers though, try to stop Dallas Goddard 591 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: to the best of your ability, because that offense is 592 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: going to be moving. But the number one key, and 593 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: I'll talk about it on Saturday, is the play extension. 594 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: Because last week against the Chicago Bears, Justin Field's really 595 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: hurts you. Those four plus those four run of ten 596 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: plus yards out of the eight that the Chicago Bears 597 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: did have simply coming from Justin fields being able to 598 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: extend plays in the pocket, get out the pocket, go 599 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: for first downs. That hurts. And when you have a 600 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: guy like Jalen Hurts, he's one of the best in 601 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: the world to do it. As Jonathan Gannon said earlier 602 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: this week, they got to be able to limit him 603 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: in the pocket. He has not played well. The thirteen 604 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: interceptions in the pocket lead the NFL according to the 605 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: Next Gen Stats, So he got some work that you 606 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: gotta do. But it really as a matter of limiting 607 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: that offensive side of the ball for them. 608 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: Eighteen total turnovers by Jalen Hurts, thirteen interceptions, five fumbles. 609 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't as far as yards, he doesn't run as 610 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: much as justin fields, but he runs more one hundred 611 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: and forty seven rushing attempts and you compare that to 612 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: James Connor, who did miss some time earlier this season. 613 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: Connor has one hundred and fifty five, so that is 614 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: only eight more rushing attempts than Jalen Hurts. And the 615 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: play extension keeping Hurts in the pocket is going to 616 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: be huge on Sunday. 617 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: And one of the things that Jalen Hurts has to 618 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: his advantage is that offensive line with two potential Hall 619 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: of famers on that offensive line and Lane Johnson and 620 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: Jason Kelce, they are all really solid. Jordan Mylotta being 621 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: converted to a left tackle and playing really well out 622 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: there from his time, you know, when he was in 623 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: Australia as a rugby player and now he's a starting 624 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: left tackle, one of the premier positions that the NFL 625 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: has to offer. But because you have so much time 626 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: back there, it gets a quarterback a little bit antsy, 627 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: a little bit and that's why Jalen Hurts has had 628 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: so many rush attempts because he's gone out of the pocket. 629 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't see any of his options open. Okay, that 630 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: offensive line is blocking for me. Let me scramble out 631 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: to the right a little bit and try to make 632 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: some happen, try to get some of those extra yards. 633 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: The irony is he leads all quarterbacks and he has 634 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: the record with the fifteen rushing touchdowns and despite it 635 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: being only the five hundred and seventy some yards that 636 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: he has rushing in total, the rushing touchdowns is that 637 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: brotherly shove that they have over there has gone Jalen 638 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: Hurts to being the upper echelon of quarterbacks and their 639 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: rushing skills. 640 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: The brother lisha. Yes, you know it's coming and you 641 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: know what they do. And now there's some wrinkles out 642 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: of that as far as you fake the dive and 643 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: you roll out or you throw off of that. But 644 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: it's one thing to know how to or how it's 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: used and utilized, because both Jonathan Gan and Nik Rolis 646 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: know all about it. It's another thing, though, to have 647 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: the personnel to stop it, and so far no one 648 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: has been able to stop it. Even if you know 649 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: exactly all the ins and outs of the move, you 650 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: have to have the personnel. And I'm curious do the 651 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals have the personnel or is it more the coaching 652 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: putting you in the right spots to be able to 653 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: stop that one yard two yard push? 654 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: Truthfully, the best way to stop it is you hope 655 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: the Eagles offensive line makes a mistake. With this Cardinal's 656 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: defensive line, they're so banged up, and we've talked about 657 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: it repeatedly, especially with Jonathan led Better. Now going on, 658 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: ir you have Kevin Strong and Dante's and those are 659 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: really your two big bodies that you have out there. 660 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: And the Philadelphia Eagles, especially Jason Kelce, he goes so 661 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: low to the ground it's impressive. Kevin Strong was talking 662 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: about it to the media earlier this week on Thursday, 663 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: he said when he first played against them last season 664 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: when he was in Tennessee, he was saying, like, I've 665 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: never seen a center go that low to the ground, 666 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: And when you have a center that is equally as 667 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: fast and as quick, it's scary. With that being said, 668 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: Jason Kelsey has had a handful of false starts. He's 669 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: moved the ball forward in an extra couple of yards, 670 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: and because of that, the officials are now starting to 671 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: look at it. He's had a tendency of having his 672 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: balance be a little bit off. So as much as 673 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: I want to say the Bradley shove is about a 674 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: defensive line stuffing them, getting them out of their stance, 675 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: you got to hope that the Eagles make a mistake 676 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: because when it is a play like that, when it's 677 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: as detailed as it is, one small thing being off 678 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: could save you. 679 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: There Eagles number seven in scoring. They are eighth overall 680 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: as far as total yards are concerned, number two on 681 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: third down, number one on fourth down, top ten in 682 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: the red zone. Defensively, they defend the run very well, 683 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: eighth in the league, averaging gist or allowing just over 684 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: ninety five rushing yards game. Cardinals coming off their third 685 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: fewest rushing yards total this season, I would expect, and again, 686 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: because you do not have a Hollywood Brown. And how 687 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: healthy after missing a couple of days is Kyler Murray. 688 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: We presume he'll be one hundred percent or as close 689 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: to one hundred percent as you can be this late 690 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: in the season. But get that ground game going. Even 691 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: though the Eagles are very stout against the run. 692 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: They are, but once you get by that defensive line, 693 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: and they have some studs on that defensive line, once 694 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: you get by him, you have a lot more flexibility 695 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: back there. Especially with a guy like James Connor that 696 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: is not afraid to bulldoze a defender, you have that opportunity. 697 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: I think this is the type of game that defense 698 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: was Jonathan Gannon's defense, and there's a lot of familiarity. 699 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: If there's one person that knows how to pick it apart, 700 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: it is John Degannon. He coached players up to make 701 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: him into stars in Philadelphia, a guy like Reid Blankenship, 702 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: who have talked a lot about with Dave and I 703 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: mentioned I asked Johnathangannon about because that's an undrafted rookie 704 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: at safety that you're able to, you know, bring to 705 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 3: a star and everyday starter he leads to Philadelphia Eagles 706 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: and tackles with ninety two. Jonathan Gannon knows that defense 707 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: very well, and obviously some things change. And when you 708 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: have it changed in your play caller from Sean Decide 709 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: to Matt Patricia, that is going to change as well. 710 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 3: But johnathangan and Nick Rolis they know this defense, and 711 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: I think the ground and pound is something that they're 712 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 3: really going to need to rely on because they will 713 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: guard up Trey McBride. They know he's going to be 714 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: your top tight end. How are you able to get 715 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: a guy like Greg Dortch involved, Ron Dell Moore involved? 716 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: That is simply dependent on if you could get the 717 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: run game involved. 718 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: And a familiar name on that Eagles defense hasan Reddick 719 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: who has a team best eleven sacks plus twelve tackles 720 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: for loss. Cardinal fans, well, remember Hassan Reddick, who has 721 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: just blossomed in Philadelphia and certainly someone that would love 722 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: to see an Eagles win over his former team. And 723 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: that's that's what this game is all about. Yeah, you 724 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: can have pleasantries after the game, but once the game 725 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: is kicked off, it's okay, I want to beat you, 726 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: beat your guy in front of you, and hopefully the 727 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: Cardinals again surprise some people, but deliver a win for 728 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: their head coach. 729 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 3: It's not a matter of you know, shaking hands and 730 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: kissing babies, as Buddha Bakers said when he was talking 731 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: about Jonathan Gannon speaking to the team, and that was 732 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 3: how Buddha wanted to interrupt him and say that type 733 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: of thing. But it's true, you're going there. This might 734 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: be a homecoming of sorts, especially for me, but of sorts, 735 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: but this is a business trip for everybody involved in 736 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: the organization. It's your last road trip. It's the last 737 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 3: game in twenty twenty three for a year that's had 738 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: so much change within the Cardinals organization from the top down. 739 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: There would be no better. 740 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: Way to have the fireworks go off with a victory 741 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: in your in your hands one last time before the 742 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: season begins, and then you hope to get one twenty 743 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: twenty four when you play Seattle next week. 744 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: Are you all packed ready to go? 745 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: I am all packed. I got a new bag though 746 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: my other bag rip so I had to get a 747 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 3: new bag, so I had to squish everything into this thing. 748 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: So I don't know, we'll figure it out. 749 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: Big plans on Saturday. The team is leaving later on 750 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. That's what this team does when they go 751 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: back east, So it's a two day trip. 752 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: I'll go see the family a little bit, but then 753 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: tonight in Philadelphia on Friday, probably go to take the 754 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: guys out see whoever you know in our staff wants 755 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 3: to get a true Philadelphia experience, probably taking the chickis 756 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: and pizza when the Philadelphia sports bars out there, just 757 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: to show them what Philadelphia really is all about. It's 758 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: been since twenty twenty when the Cardinals last were in Philadelphia, 759 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: so not a lot of people in the staff have 760 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 3: been there. 761 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: A word of advice, don't be late to the bus. 762 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave right after this. 763 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Don't be late. Just don't be late, because the plane 764 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: will leave you and the bus will leave. 765 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 4: I believe it. 766 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: As long as I can find the parking spot, which 767 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: everyone has already warned me about and has scared me, 768 00:36:59,200 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: we'll be all right. 769 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Oh, you'll be fine. Just make sure you come back 770 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: with the W on Sunday. 771 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 3: What if I don't? I mean I will come back 772 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: with the W what not? The team? 773 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: Well, let me just stay there for a little while, 774 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: all right, Now, see if they let you back on 775 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: the plane. Cardinals and Eagles on Sunday, the final day 776 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, Week seventeen, and again, eleven am 777 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: is the kickoff six thirty. Pre game coverage begins on 778 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals radio networking, and of course we'll talk 779 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: about it next week here on Cardinals Cover two, and 780 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: with that we will put a lid on this edition 781 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: of Cardinals. Cover two presented by Yndai, proud partner of 782 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to our executive 783 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amanre our associate producer Coddy Fincher For Zach Kershman, 784 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to you next time 785 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.