1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I guess, well, what's that? So it's just about Christmas time, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: and you know I have to repeat my favorite Louis 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Armstrong in fact of all time. I know which one 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: is coming. This one's about the tree, right, of course, 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: it's about the tree. So you know, I heard this 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: fact forever ago about sat Mo and how he got 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: his first Christmas tree at age forty. But I love 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: the way his wife tells it, so I'm actually just 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna quote her. We finally went to bed, and Louis 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: was still laying up in the bed watching the tree, 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: his eyes just like a baby's eyes would watch something. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: So finally I said, well, I'll turn the lights out 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: now on the tree. He said, no, don't turn them out. 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I just have to keep looking at it. You know, 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: that's the first tree I ever had. Well, I hadn't 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: realized that. You know, Louis was forty years old, and 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: it seemed to me that in forty years a person 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: would have at least one tree. I was all swollen 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: up inside when he told me that we were to 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: leave the next day for Kansas City. I figured, Christmas 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: is over, today's twenty six. Now I'll leave the tree. 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Louis said no, don't leave the tree. Take the tree 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: with you. And he had me take the tree on 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: those one night ers. Before I even unpacked a bag, 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I had to set that tree up, his Christmas tree. 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: So it's just this wonderful story. And she keeps the 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: tree going for like a month, just putting it up 28 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: night after night and taking it down the next morning, 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: and all these hotels, and when the tour is over, 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I guess Louis actually wanted her to mail the tree home, 31 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: and she finally had to convince him that the tree 32 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: was going to dry up if she did that. I mean, 33 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: I know I've heard that before, but it really is 34 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: such a wonderful story. Yeah, it comes from James Lincoln 35 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Colliers bio of Louis Armstrong, and I just love that 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: story so much and and that this tree gave him 37 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: so much joy, and it made me think maybe this 38 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: week we should do in nine things all about Christmas trees. 39 00:01:38,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing. Let's dig in pay their 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: podcast listeners, welcome the part time genius. I'm Will Pearson 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and as always I'm joined by my good friend Ticketer 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: and sitting behind the soundproof booth dressed like an elf 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: on a shelf and he's got this thing nail. That's 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: our friend, the producer, Tristan McNeil. Alright, Mango, So I 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: know your family isn't Christian, but you grew up with 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Christmas trees though, right, yeah, so we always had trees 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: and presents and sang carols around the piano like it 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: was just tradition for us. And uh, you know, this 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: year I went to my parents place and they'd picked 50 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: out what has to be the fattest, most misshapen tree 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I actually, I'm gonna pull up this 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: picture for you. I'm not sure that that's actually a tree. 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: It looks like that tree ate another tree. I know, 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: it's always like a like when a python eats a 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: goat or something so misshapen, but uh, you know, I 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: my friends love the holidays. I think they got a 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: discount on that tree. Lizzie, on the other hand, we'll 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: spend hours just going store to store, just inspecting every 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: single tree and trying to get the perfect shaped tree. 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: And every year it is just the one fight we have. 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: It is miserable. Lessie. Isn't the only person out there 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: looking for the perfect tree? Have you actually ever heard 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: of Mr Christmas Tree, I haven't. Is he a tree salesman. 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: He's actually a tree scientist. So his name is Gary Chastagner. 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: And the thing that he's specializing again is trying to 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: get Christmas trees that shed less. So he's kind of 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: making the cockapoo of Christmas tree. That's exactly what he does. 68 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: I think it says that on his business card. What 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: this this actually comes from mental flaws, and it says 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: Mr Christmas Tree is currently leading a five year, one 71 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: point three million dollar research project and it's aimed at 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: helping Christmas trees retain their needles longer, and it's about 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: selective breeding. So he and his researchers collect these tree 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: samples from farms across the country and try to figure 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: out which ones are the heartiest and keep their needles 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the longest, and then they'll cross breed those, of course, 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and they keep doing this until they have the tree 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: that will last until spring. So it's basically a tree 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: made for Louis Armstrong. It would have been perfect. A well, 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: here's actually another fact for you. And his research isn't 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: just about finding a perfect tree. It also includes how 82 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: to water them. So according to his research, you need 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: about a quart of water for every inch of your 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: trees diameter, and you're supposed to water with that every 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: single day. But here's the catch. Most Christmas tree stands 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: can't actually hold that much water, and there aren't many 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: great solutions other than just watering your tree a lot. 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: In fact, in two thousand and seven, he even tried 89 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: hooking up Christmas trees to I V trips, but even 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that wasn't enough for the thirsty trees. This is how 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: dedicated this guy that is wild. Well, here's a quick 92 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: one I had no idea about. If your tree dies 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: on you, you know, or you're just through with it 94 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: after the holiday season, you can obviously mulch it, but 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: that isn't your only option. You can also donate your 96 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: Christmas tree to a zoo. So why zo? Well, I 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you just drop it off at 98 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: any zoo, But according to the San Francisco Gate, the 99 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Oakland Zoo takes Christmas tree donations because they feed the 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: trees as a quote wintertime treat to their animal. So 101 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: the photo with the article is so great, it's just 102 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: got like a bunch of drafts nibbling on the top 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: of trees, and I'm sure it leaves them with minty 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: fresh breath. That that three of your parents who showed me, 105 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that could last them a few weeks. Yeah, 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: that's true. So when you have next all right, was 107 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: reading this interesting article in the Independent. It was called 108 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: how the Nazis Stole Christmas, And one of the interesting 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: bits was that the Nazis tried to take the Christ 110 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: out of Christmas, and so here's how the author describes it. 111 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: The regime's exploitation of Christmas began almost as soon as 112 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the Nazis took power in nineteen thirty three. Party ideologists 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: wrote scores of papers claiming that the festival's Christian element 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: was a manipulative attempt by the Church to capitalize on 115 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: what we're really old Germanic traditions. So they worked to 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: rebrand it, and instead of stars on the top of 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the tree, they used swastikas naturally, and instead of Santa 118 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Claus they replaced them with the Germanic and Norse god Odin. Yeah, 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: that's so strange, but the artwork of it was supposedly 120 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: really funny, and so here's how the author described it. 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: Propaganda posters in the exhibitions show the Christmas or souls. 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: This man Odin as a hippie like individual on a 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: white horse charger, sporting a thick gray beard slough chat 124 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and a sack full of gifts. Hippe like Odin doesn't 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: sound very Nazi. You know. I feel like Christmas is 126 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: just another thing the Nazis got wrong. So that makes sense. So, 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, I was looking into the story of artificial 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: trees and this is just an aside. But according to 129 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: the New York Times, they said that unless you're reusing 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: your artificial tree for more than twenty years, it's actually 131 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: more environmentally friendly just to cut down a tree every 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: single year. Wow. So that's true. Yeah, so I I 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: guess they're quoting this environmental consulting firm from Montreal, and 134 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: they took into account it's as greenhouse gas emissions, use 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: of resources, and human health impacts, which I guess I 136 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: never would have guest. But here's my fact. Do you 137 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: know that the first artificial trees were actually made of 138 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: green dyed goose feathers. I did not know that. This 139 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: comes from a book on the History of Christmas by 140 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Bruce David Forbes. But the goose feather trees came from 141 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: Germany and reached the US in nine hundred and according 142 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to Forbes quote, customers like the one time expense instead 143 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: of an annual outlay at escalating costs, and the artificial 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: trees boasted no pine needles and less fire hazards. That 145 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: actually reminds me that weird fact of how miniature golf 146 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: greens used to use dyed goat hair for the artificial ground. 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: That's right, so weird. So where do you want to 148 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: go from here? All right? Well, how about the fact 149 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: that Christmas trees used to be a whole lot tinier. 150 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: In fact, in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, the main 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: present delivery system was gifts and the stockings, and instead 152 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: of the tree being on the floor on a table, 153 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: it was actually pretty common to hang the tree from 154 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: a ceiling or from the rafts. It kind of sounds 155 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: like I'm just making this up, this is true. In fact, 156 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: one article I found said that families would even hang 157 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the tree upside down to point the route toward heaven 158 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: and supposedly fill the tree with divine power. Like that 159 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: just would be so creepy, like a hanging tree. And 160 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: then the fact that like everyone was doing this at 161 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: the time. It's nuts you have a different take on this. 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: I kind of want to try this next year. Well, 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I know we've got a fumer facts to go about 164 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: before that. Let's take a quick break. Welcome back to 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Part time Genius. We were talking about hanging Christmas trees. 166 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: So will what fact are you gonna go onto next? 167 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: I think one of the things I found most fascinating 168 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: this week was learning that after we started bringing bigger 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: trees indoors and not hanging them from the raft, they 170 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: still didn't quite look like the trees that we have today. 171 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: Why is that, Well, I'm sure you've heard about how 172 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: people used to put lit candles on trees, like in 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: the era before light. Well, to make that happen, you 174 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: need a lot of space between the branches, you know, 175 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: so the candles aren't lighting the needles that are on 176 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: top of those. So the ideal you of a century 177 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: go was really like a whole lot more sparse and patchy. 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: And then you'd use that extra room in there, not 179 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: just to light the candles, but you'd hide these extra 180 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: treats for your kids, which I can imagine that was, 181 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, pretty fun for them to find like little 182 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: gifts in there. And and then when, of course, you know, 183 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: the electric lights came along, all of that space disappeared. 184 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: And that's when we started getting these more full trees 185 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: and the gifts started moving down to the floor. I 186 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: can't imagine Christmas tree shopping with my wife back then, 187 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: just like not having a patchy enough tree got to 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: be more patchy. But weirdly enough, the first electric Christmas 189 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: lights actually go way back to the eighteen eighties. That's 190 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: apparently when Thomas Edison's vice president at his company, they 191 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: rigged up the tree with lights. And so then g 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: E came out with lights in nineteen o one, and 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: this is all from that same book on Christmas. And 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen oh three, ever Ready came out with the 195 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: first string of eight lights, and it just of course 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: kind of took off from there. But I really had 197 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: no idea that it all started that early. I know, 198 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: in that's crazy to think about. So, uh, speaking of 199 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Christmas tree lights, I've actually got a fact. I think 200 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna love and I think it's a great way 201 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: to go out. So in two thousand and ten, the 202 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: Colombian government was trying to figure out how to reach 203 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: guerilla separatists and and kind of try to get them 204 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: to put down their weapons and come home. So this 205 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: ad executive actually came up with this idea and he 206 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: shared it with the government and they decided to try 207 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: it out. And they basically put up all these motion 208 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: sensor Christmas lights, just strings of lights up on trees 209 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: and strategic places. Right, So they picked nine pathways through 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: the jungle and they did this in that area and basically, 211 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: whenever the sensor tripped, the lights would go up and 212 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: this message would illuminate that said, if Christmas can come 213 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: to the jungle, you can come home, demobilize at Christmas. 214 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Everything is possible. Of course, that's an interesting idea, but 215 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: it did it work. Yes, so it was surprisingly effective. 216 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: About three fifty people or so, this was about five 217 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: percent of the guerrillas came home that year and put 218 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: down their arms and rejoined civilization. And uh, it's convinced 219 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: the government to do this almost every year since. So 220 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: they use slightly different tactics, but every year more and 221 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: more people are coming home to their moms. I mean, 222 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty great. I have to admit it. 223 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give you the final prize 224 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: of the years. Congratulations. Well I also love the fact 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: that you can hook up a tree to an I 226 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: v SO in the Christmas fare. Why don't we share 227 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: it with you? Me gave Tristan, even Julian. All right, 228 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: well I'm for that now. Listeners were all for the holidays, 229 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: but we'll be back next year with a whole new 230 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: season of shows. Thank you for the kind reviews and 231 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: all the facts and the letters you send, and we 232 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: love hearing from you, and thanks so much for listening.