1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with talks now underway in Saudi Arabia 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: between the US and Russia aimed at ending the war 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. Ukraine is not represented at this meeting. It's 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: headed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Russian Foreign 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Minister Sergei Lavrov and Riod. Yesterday, Ukrainian President Vladimir Lensky 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: reiterated he would not recognize any agreement reached without his country. 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: Ukraine is not participating. Ukraine knew nothing about it. Ukraine 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 4: regards any negotiations on Ukraine without Ukraine as negotiations with 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: no result, and we cannot acknowledge anything any arrangements about 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: US that were made without US. 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vladimir Lensky spoke through an interpreter after both 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: the US and Russia clarified Ukraine would be involved in 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: future negotiations, though as yet it's not clear what form 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: that would take. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Well, Nathan, Ukraine is not alone and not being invited 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: to the meeting in Saudi Arabia. Europe is also not 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: represented at the talks. Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: they didn't want them there. 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 5: The European philosophy hasn't gone anywhere. If they're going to 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 5: wheezl out some cunning ideas about freezing the conflict while 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: actually intending, as is their custom, nature and habit, to 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: continue the war, then why should we invite them at all? 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: And Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov speaking there through an interpreter. 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: The meeting follows a landmark phone call between President Donald 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, which could pave the 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 3: way for a summit between the two leaders as soon 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: as next week. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 6: Well. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back in Washington, Karen, President Trump's push to reign 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: in the federal government is leading to more high profile clashes. 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: According to The Washington Post, the acting head of the 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Social Security Administration resigned over the weekend after a dispute 37 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: with Elon Musk's government efficiency team over its attempts to 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: access sensitive government records. Michelle King had served several decades 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: at Social Security before she became acting commissioner last month. Now, 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: President Trump has named an anti fraud manager Leland Dudik 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: as the new acting commissioner. This puts Dudek ahead of 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: dozens of senior executives who were higher up in the 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: agency's ranks. 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Nathan nearly two dozen US attorneys have found out 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: they're added jobs after an email mix up. Bloomberg Law 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: has learned the White House sent termination emails to the 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: wrong addresses of as many as twenty two US attorneys 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia, Arizona, New Mexico, and other districts. The prosecutors 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: had an idea their jobs were on the line when 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: they lost access to their government issued devices last Friday. 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: By last night, the Justice Department sent the notices where 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: they should have gone to their personal emails. Sources to 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: hel Bloomberg Law, the firings were originally sent to the 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: prosecutor's internal dog email addresses, which should have bounce back 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: to White House staffers. 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 7: Man Karin. 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: The Trump administration has begun firing several hundred Federal Aviation 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Administration employees probationary workers we're targeted. In a message posted 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: to x late last night, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: zero air traffic controllers and critical safety personnel were let. 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: Go well, Nathan. The firing comes amid another plane crash. 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: A Delta Airlines plane flipped upside down upon landing in 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: windy and freezing conditions in Toronto. All eighty people on 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: board survived. Fifteen people were injured. Bruce Landsberg is a 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: former vice chair of the National Transportation Safety Board. 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 6: We will have a team going up there. The go 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 6: team is just in the process of getting organized now, 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 6: and they'll go up there and they will participate with 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: TSB in going through the wreckage and gathering information, and 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 6: then we'll provide our expertise and we'll share knowledge. 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: Former NTSB vice chair Bruce Lansburg. The incident continues a 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: bad start of the year for air safety in North America. 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: Ten people died on board a commuter plane that crashed 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: in Alaska. In late January, sixty seven people died after 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: a regional jet in a military helicopter collided mid air 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, and days later, a 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Metavag plane crash soon after takeoff in Philadelphia. 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 8: Karen. 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: President Trump has announced to US operation in Syria that 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: took out an Al Qaida leader. In a truth social post, 81 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: the President says the precision airstrike took place over the weekend. 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: The New York Post reports US Central Command released a 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: statement saying the strike took place on Saturday and led 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: to the death of a senior finance and logistics official 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: from an ol Kaida affiliate known as Horas Aldeen. 86 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, we turn to the markets now, Nathan, and futures 87 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: are hire as we kick off a holiday shortened trading week. 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: The S and P five hundred is just a few 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: points away from our record high. Cameron Dawson, the chief 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: investment officer at New Edge Wealth, says the threat of 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: a trade war is easing. 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 9: Markets are trading with this release on the night idea 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 9: of we have the boy who cried tariff effectively for 94 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 9: all the talk and rhetoric of how big tariffs would be, 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 9: you're seeing these things like the delay in the world 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 9: out till April of the reciprocal tariffs, effectively providing a 97 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 9: window for them to be negotiated. 98 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: A New Edge wels. Cameron Dawson says earnings will be 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: key for the markets going forward. 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: And Karen Goldman Sacks remains bullish on gold. The firm 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: is raising its year end target for bully into thirty 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars an ounce. Goldman says that's because of 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: central bank buying and inflows into gold back exchange traded funds. 104 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: Checking gold prices right now, comix Gold is up eight 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: tens ever percent at twenty nine hundred and twenty four 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: dollars eighty cents per ounce. 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: And Nathan shares at BHP Billetin are down about six 108 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: tenths of a percent. Overseas first half profit slump twenty 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: three percent is China's faltering economy, damp and demand for 110 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: iron ore. They caught up with CEO Mike Henry. 111 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 10: There has been some overall economic challenges or headwinds in China, 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 10: but the sectors of the economy that are important to 113 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 10: BHP's commodity demand, for the most part, have been performing strongly. 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 10: The exception, of course, is a property sector that has 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 10: been under some pressure. But we're starting to see some 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 10: green shoots there by way of increased news starts, property 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 10: price rise in some sectors, so I think we'll see 118 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 10: some some momentum building into twenty twenty six. 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: Bhpco Mike Henry cut the interim dividend to an eight 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: year low it's now fifty cents, is sheer down from 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: seventy two cents the year before. And it's time now 122 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: for a look at some of the other stories making 123 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: news in New York and around the world. And for 124 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: that we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 125 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 7: John, Good Morning, Good morning, Karen. 126 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 11: New York City Mayor Eric Adams is under increasing pressure 127 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 11: to step down as a crisis enveloped city Hall. Let's 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 11: get the very latest this morning from Bloomberg's genus Orvenni. 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 12: Governor Kathy Hokel is meeting with key leaders today, raising 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 12: quote serious questions about the future of Eric adams administration, 131 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 12: citing her power to remove the mayor. The crisis surrounding 132 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 12: Adams intensified after four top deputies said yesterday they were resigning, 133 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 12: and the speaker of the City Council called for him 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 12: to step down. The four deputy mayors who resigned overseeing 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 12: much of the city's government. Hokl, a fellow Democrat, called 136 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 12: allegations of a quid pro quo between the mayor and 137 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 12: the Trump administration quote extremely concerning and serious. The mayor 138 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 12: has remained defiant, saying he's not leaving office and is 139 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 12: able to continue doing the job despite the chaos surrounding 140 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 12: City Hall. Genus Cervetti Bloomberg Radio. 141 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 11: Severe winter weathers slammed the Eastern Seaboard over the weekend, 142 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 11: killing at least fifteen people across several states, including a 143 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 11: dozen in Kentucky, where parts of the state remained severely 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 11: flooded when some gusting over seventy miles per hour took 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 11: down telephone polls in New Jersey and huge trees all 146 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 11: over the Tri state region. Our Presidents Day, a number 147 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 11: of protests held across the nation showing support for federal 148 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 11: workers losing their jobs as part of the Trump administration's 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 11: push for efficiency. Ralling in downtown Seattle was this Veterans 150 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 11: Affairs worker. 151 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: We're all terrified. 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 13: These are people that have dedicated their entire careers to 153 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 13: serving veterans, and our work is being ripped away from us. 154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 10: And it's scary. 155 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: It's really scary. 156 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 11: Nearly one thousand people marched in the snow from the 157 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 11: State House in Boston to City Hall, chanting Elon Muss 158 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 11: has to go global news twenty four hours a day, 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 11: and whatever you want it to with. Have Bloomberg News. Now, 160 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 11: I'm John Tucker and this is Bloomberg. 161 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 7: Karen. 162 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: All right, John Tucker, thank you time now for the 163 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Try State Audi. 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: Here's John stash Hour, John, good. 165 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 7: Morning, Good morning, Karen. 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 14: Let the hype in for the Thursday night hockey game 167 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 14: in Boston. The US versus Canada Part two last Saturday 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 14: in Montreal saw the US victory after those three fights 169 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 14: in the first nine seconds. This time they'll play for 170 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 14: the Four Nations Faceoff Championship. US played a tune up 171 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 14: game in Boston, lost to Sweden to the no scoring 172 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 14: after the first period of Canada earned the trip to 173 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 14: the final by beating Finland five to three. Nathan McKinnon 174 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 14: scored twice, then said, we can play better than the 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 14: first game. 176 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 7: We feel we can beat those guys. 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 14: I mean a last John Carlos Stanton, he was the Yankees' 178 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 14: best hitter in the postseason, had seven home runs with 179 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 14: the ALCS MVP. On his first day at Yankee camp 180 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 14: in Tampa, Stanton said he did all that despite pain 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 14: in both elbows and it's still bothering him and he 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 14: may not play at all in spring training. 183 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 7: May miss the start of this season. At Mets camp. 184 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 14: Starting pitcher Frankie Montas, who they signed as a free agent, 185 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 14: has a lot strain. They'll be shut down six to 186 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 14: eight weeks. Pete Alonzo also signed met the media in 187 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 14: Port Saint Lucy to tough about his decision to remain 188 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 14: a Met and. 189 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 7: Here we are. 190 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 13: We're back at it again. So it's the biggest thing 191 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 13: that the takeaway is that, I mean, this is a 192 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 13: really special place. And what makes this a special place 193 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 13: is the people here. I mean, we got a great, 194 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 13: great clubhouse. Obviously great talent, but I mean I've been 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 13: here my entire career. This the so many relationships that 196 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 13: I've fostered and created over the years. 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 14: And Red Sox camp, the buzz is what position will 198 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 14: Rapiel Devers play? Always been a third baseman, he has 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 14: led al third basemen and errors seven straight years. 200 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 7: They just signed Alex Bregman. 201 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 14: Will they move him to second base or will they 202 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 14: d h Devers or playim at first, he says he 203 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 14: only wants. 204 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 7: To play thirds. Big into positions. 205 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 14: The Angels Mike Drout been as strictly a center field 206 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 14: or He's moving to right in an effort to help 207 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 14: him avoid injuries. Trout hardly played last season with the 208 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 14: knee injuries, also had leg and back issues. Have missed 209 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 14: almost four hundred games over the last four seasons. John Stanshewer, 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 14: Bloomberg Sports, Karendiapen. 211 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 212 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 213 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 214 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 7: Good morning. 215 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager on a morning where talks are underway 216 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: on ending the war in Ukraine without Ukraine. US officials, 217 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, are now meeting 218 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: with the Russian counterparts in Saudi Arabia I or Brusla 219 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: with you. Ukrainian President Vladimir Lenski's office says his country 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: should not be sidelined. 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 15: It stands to reason to expect that the talks should 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 15: be held first with the Ukraine to hear our position, 223 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 15: to hear what we have to say, and then to 224 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 15: so the main thing is to avoid these bad door channels. 225 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 15: You know, this bad zealing. It doesn't help the situation. 226 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: You're bursilla with The Ukrainian President's office spoke to Bloomberg 227 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: ahead of these talks again now under way, and Riodd 228 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: for more. We are joined by Bloomberg new senior editor 229 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Bill Ferries, and Bill looks as though the Ukrainian President's 230 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Office official is not getting what he wanted here. It 231 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: is hard not to get the impression that Kiev is 232 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 2: sidelined right now. 233 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 8: Good morning, Hey, good morning, Nathan. I think that's right. 234 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 8: I mean, things seem to be really moving at warp 235 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 8: speed here when it comes to the US talks over 236 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 8: the future of Ukraine. Of course, it was just last 237 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 8: week that President Trump had that ninety minute phone call 238 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 8: with Russian President Vladimir Putin. After that, you know, he 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 8: announced that he would inform Ukrainian President Zelensky of the 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 8: outcome of those talks the US. Now the US team 241 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 8: there in Ryad having these meetings with the Russian officials 242 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 8: without really much of a European presence and no Ukrainian 243 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 8: presence there as well. The US side is pitching this 244 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 8: as kind of a restart and communication that really hasn't 245 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 8: taken place between the US and Russia since the war started. 246 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 8: But it's clearly clearly there are things are the momentum 247 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 8: is building without very much Ukrainian or European input. 248 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: And we'd heard from a foreign policy aid at the 249 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: Kremlin that they were hoping that there could be some 250 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: discussion about economic issues as well in these talks. What 251 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: is the Russian goal here in having these discussions with US. 252 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 8: Officials, Well, their goal is to make as much progress 253 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 8: in securing their gains I think in Ukraine and getting 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 8: US sanctions eased at some level. You're right, the head 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 8: of Russia's sovereign Wealth Fund, Carilli Dimitriev, is going to 256 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 8: possibly be a part of those talks. You know, it 257 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 8: would be the US said there would be tougher sanctions 258 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 8: coming if Russia isn't ready to deal, but there already 259 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 8: are very tough sanctions in place. It would be a 260 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 8: different thing for the US to start easing some of 261 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 8: those sanctions, giving a big boost to Russia's economy. But 262 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 8: you know, we're in a very different world now than 263 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 8: we were five or six weeks ago, and a lot 264 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 8: of things that had become standard under the Biden administration 265 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 8: are shifting very quickly. 266 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: And we certainly got even more clues of that just 267 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: late last week when Vice President JD. Vance appeared at 268 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: the Munich Security Conference and told Europe that he felt 269 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: like the biggest threat to the European Union was the 270 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: threat from within this idea that free speech is being 271 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: sidelined in some way. Where is Europe when it comes 272 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: to all this, Can Europe play a role here in 273 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 2: moving things forward. 274 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,479 Speaker 7: When it comes to Ukraine. 275 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 8: Well, it's remarkable that we have we're asking that question 276 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 8: because of course this battle ground, this war is taking 277 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 8: place in Europe. But yeah, I think europe European leaders 278 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 8: are still stunned by the US position outlined by Vice 279 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 8: President Vance and also by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth over 280 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 8: the past week there in Munich. I think a lot 281 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 8: of people had gathered at that speech by Vice President 282 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 8: Vance expecting to hear more about the US position on 283 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 8: Ukraine and where the war might be headed. Instead, they 284 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 8: got much more of a talk focused on freedom expression 285 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 8: and even the German election and things like that. So 286 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 8: it was not what a lot of people had expected. 287 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 8: You saw a lot of really angry European ministers and 288 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 8: defense leaders, and they are moving as quickly as they 289 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 8: can though, to see if there's something they can do 290 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 8: to make sure they have a seat at the table, 291 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 8: and they're also talking about boosting defense spending even more 292 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 8: than they had been before all this started happening. 293 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: In our Last Minute Bill, you talked about things moving 294 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: at warp speed when it comes to US Russia relations. 295 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: It seems like you could say the same thing when 296 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: it comes to the government efficiency effort back in Washington. 297 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 298 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 8: I think every weekend and every day we're hearing more 299 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 8: about the repercussions from the DOGE team's work and the 300 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 8: effort to lay off, primarily at least in the beginning, 301 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 8: some of these probationary workers. 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