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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone.

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Speaker 3: Welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about Lily Reinhart and her diagnosis of endometriosis.

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Speaker 3: What one dad did in a panic when his house

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Speaker 3: caught on fire. A despicable human being that found a

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Speaker 3: dead body of a teen and did not report it

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Speaker 3: and instead decided to rob her. A multimillion dollar lawsuit

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Speaker 3: awarded to a family that lost their baby after being

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Speaker 3: fed col based formula without their consent. And we'll end

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Speaker 3: the episode with a happy story of a mom who

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Speaker 3: didn't know she was pregnant. But in this case, we

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Speaker 3: will forgive her because she actually has a really good excuse.

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Speaker 2: All that.

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Speaker 3: In moral today's episode, let's start with Lily Reinhart's diagnosis

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Speaker 3: of ende meysis.

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Speaker 1: All right, so Lily her is sharing how doctors have

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Speaker 1: been blowing off her pain for years, only to discover

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Speaker 1: she had endometriosis and needed surgery. Welcome to the club sis,

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Speaker 1: because this is what happens with all of us.

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Speaker 3: It really is. It's like, it sounds so familiar. We

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Speaker 3: have that happened with May it happened with Maria, it

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Speaker 3: happened with our other friends, like it happens all the

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Speaker 3: time it and I mean, part of the reason is

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Speaker 3: not one hundred percent doctor's fault, because it's very hard

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Speaker 3: to diagnose endometriosis with imaging, so you could suspect that

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Speaker 3: someone has it, but it's it's not as easy as

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Speaker 3: let's say, doing an ultrasound and seeing if someone has

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Speaker 3: a fibroid tumor in their uterus. It's very easy to

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Speaker 3: see on imaging, So I think that that's part of

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Speaker 3: the reason, But of course the bigger part of the

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Speaker 3: reason is that like women should have to deal with

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Speaker 3: so much more pain and just get blown off all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do totally understand why it's so

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Speaker 1: hard to diagnose. But at the same time, like from

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Speaker 1: my experience, I had been telling a doctor about it

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Speaker 1: for a very long time, kept blowing me off, and

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Speaker 1: then I feel like within my first consultation at the

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Speaker 1: fertility place, she was like, this is what I think

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Speaker 1: you have. So I'm like, why did this one doctor

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Speaker 1: period's hurt, you know, blah blah blah. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: it enrages me because she's saying she saw multiple urologists,

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Speaker 1: gynecologists and went to three different hospitals, not one person

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Speaker 1: brought up endometriosis. Then she started going to a public

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Speaker 1: floor therapist, who then suggested it. So then she went

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Speaker 1: to an endometriosis specialist who suggested she have the surgery

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Speaker 1: for it. And even after the endometriosis specialist suggested she

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Speaker 1: had surgery for it, another gynecologist said, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think you have it.

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Speaker 1: You should just go on birth control.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, and this is the thing, because I

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Speaker 3: feel like a lot of times, at least in my experience,

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Speaker 3: when you go to certain guynecology doctors, they they like

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're like really pushers of drugs.

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Speaker 1: They are such pills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I mean or the IUD or the

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Speaker 3: this or the that, right and and like some and

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Speaker 3: like that's fine if you want to do that stuff,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like there's not a lot of it alternatives.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, though, if you do have endometriosis

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Speaker 3: that's undiagnosed and you take birth control pills, it will

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Speaker 3: make your symptoms less. So I feel like a lot

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Speaker 3: of times they're like, let's just give that because that's

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Speaker 3: going to make it chill out, and it will. It'll

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Speaker 3: cause you to have lighter periods, It'll cause you to

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Speaker 3: Because endometriosis is the cells inside of your uterus that

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Speaker 3: cause your period when they're in another location of your body.

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Speaker 3: So think about how you feel when you have your

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Speaker 3: So every single time you get your period, it's just

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Speaker 3: Like in my book, I show a demetriosis in someone's

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Speaker 3: And then every single month like this, especially this woman

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I mean I've seen people on TikTok

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Speaker 3: It's it spreads it so it almost spreads like cancer

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Speaker 1: And I think what they don't teach you too is

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Speaker 3: She's not ready to have kids yet though. She just

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Speaker 3: The only other thing that they could do for you

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Speaker 3: actually have it. That's how you could formally get diagnosed,

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Speaker 3: Of course, we know in your situation, your endometriosis actually

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Speaker 3: just give someone a lapiscopy, like, there's risk associated with it.

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Speaker 3: So it is, it does suck, but I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of it is just not really there's not really

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess, like all right, so like in the

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Speaker 1: Like I want to give an example. My doctor said,

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Speaker 1: I didn't go immediately into the IVF cycle, she suggested

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know.

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Speaker 3: I mean the thing is is that you can't you

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Speaker 1: All my organs were stuck together. Like this is how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was bad, Like it was a long surgery

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Speaker 1: No totally, And like I just think my problem Lise

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Speaker 3: And like also so Lily Ryan Hart, she's young, though

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Speaker 3: And I don't know does she have kids, is she's

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Speaker 3: endometral cells that are supposed to be on the inside

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Speaker 3: isn't making that go away. She still has that. The

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Speaker 3: with it until you're done having babies, because we have

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Speaker 3: to take your uterus out. They could do other procedures,

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Speaker 3: Like I had a procedure done called endometrial ablation, which

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Speaker 1: Okay, on Thanksgiving, this fire broke out in an apartment,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine.

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Speaker 3: And it just like he's her ex for a reason, right,

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Speaker 1: This story reminds me of the freak who called into

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Speaker 3: This whole story is again like outrageous. I can't even

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Speaker 3: whole story stumbled across her burned dead body. And decided

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Speaker 3: to not call police and to steal her scooter. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's so gross that there's so many people that aren't

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Speaker 3: even involved that that could be that insensitive and inhumane.

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Speaker 1: And then proceeds to go home tell his neighbors about it,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, Hi, call the police, because in general,

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Speaker 1: you should be reporting a dead body, but especially a

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Speaker 1: child who have like a homicide missing. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 1: a homicide clearly, And he just didn't think to do

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Speaker 1: it because he was too busy stealing a scooter, Like

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Speaker 1: what is going on in your life that this is

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Speaker 1: more important.

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Speaker 3: You just have to be thankful that his neighbors were like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is not good, Like somebody talks some sense into him.

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Speaker 3: But I guess. So she was killed by a fourteen

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Speaker 3: year old. I mean, this is like a two story

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Speaker 3: and one thing killed by a fourteen year old and

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Speaker 3: a sixteen year old who are not being tried as

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Speaker 3: adults because they're kids, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Lord, her in there, shot her many times and then

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Speaker 1: set her body up and yeah, so it's just like

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Speaker 1: and where'd they get it gone?

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Speaker 3: And just everything and you set somebody's body on fire like.

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Speaker 2: It's just so, it's so gross.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, a couple of years ago, a premat

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Speaker 1: where baby died after being served col based formula and

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Speaker 1: now the family has been awarded a thirty two million

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Speaker 1: dollars settlement from the hospital.

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Speaker 3: So apparently this baby was born premature at twenty seven weeks,

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Speaker 3: which is very very early. So one of the things

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Speaker 3: there's so many different things to consider when a baby

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Speaker 3: is born premature because they're not done cooking yet right there,

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Speaker 3: lung tissue isn't mature enough. Well, also their GI track

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Speaker 3: isn't mature enough either, and they're at risk for something

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Speaker 3: called necrotizing anaerrocolitis, right, And what that is is that

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Speaker 3: the bell is just not it's just not strong enough

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Speaker 3: the bacteria and there isn't it's not ready yet, it's

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Speaker 3: not mature. The bacteria isn't the normal colonization that we

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Speaker 3: would have as if a baby was born even older.

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Speaker 3: And this increases the risk of there being a lot

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Speaker 3: of inflammation in there. And what happens is the inflammation

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Speaker 3: could be so bad that it causes portions of the

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Speaker 3: bell to die and put a hole in the bow

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Speaker 3: wall that could spill all of the poop into the

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Speaker 3: abdominal cavity, which then could to a really serious infection,

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Speaker 3: sepsis and death. It's like a big risk factor for

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Speaker 3: premature birth. And one of the things that's considered to

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Speaker 3: be a preventative measure is breast milk and babies that

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Speaker 3: are fed formula or at a higher risk of having

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Speaker 3: this particular condition. Now, the parents were very hardcore that

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Speaker 3: they wanted to breastfeed the kid, and they didn't want

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Speaker 3: to give the kid cow's milk because of this potential complication,

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Speaker 3: and they voiced their concerns and at some point the

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Speaker 3: baby wasn't gaining weight properly, and they said, we want

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Speaker 3: to add a fortifier to your breast milk in order

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Speaker 3: to like bulk the baby up. And they never told

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Speaker 3: the parents that that fortifier that they were adding to

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Speaker 3: the breast milk was cow's milk based, and in turn,

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Speaker 3: this baby got the necrotizing anaerocolitis, had complications, had a perforation,

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Speaker 3: died as a result of it. So the judge has

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Speaker 3: decided that there was a product that was not col's

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Speaker 3: base that could have been used to fortify the breast

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Speaker 3: milk that was human based, and that this particular university

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Speaker 3: hospital didn't have it and they could have easily had

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Speaker 3: access to it and they didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: Well that and they said that if they also weren't

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Speaker 1: going to get it, they should have transferred the child

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Speaker 1: to another facility that did carry it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they they I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that's something simple that like

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Speaker 3: might have been in the chart that they just were

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Speaker 3: like or or they just totally blew off the parents' wishes.

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Speaker 3: And maybe they have evidence that they did blow off

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Speaker 3: the parents' wishes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they clearly had enough evidence to give them

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Speaker 1: this large settled.

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Speaker 3: And I mean and like one point nine million dollars

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Speaker 3: of it was because of you know, just the hospital

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Speaker 3: bills and stuff like that, but the bulk of the

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Speaker 3: money is because of the pain and suffering that they

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Speaker 3: went through with it.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's it.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually happy about it because they really should respect

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Speaker 3: your wishes and tell you and you don't know, as

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Speaker 3: like a non medical person when they're like do this

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Speaker 3: to like what like if what was the point of

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Speaker 3: her even breastfeeding at that point, like just give the

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Speaker 3: kid formula if you're gonna basically give it to them anyway,

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Speaker 3: you know, like and she didn't know anything about it

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Speaker 3: and didn't have a choice over it, which is messed up.

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Speaker 1: Will they really encourage you now to like even in

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Speaker 1: the pregnancy journal, I keep tracking my symptoms and stuff,

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Speaker 1: like they really encourage you to hand over a written

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Speaker 1: birth plan which is basically just like everything you want

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Speaker 1: so that you have evidence basically of exactly what you

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Speaker 1: want done and what you don't want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's actually a good idea for the hospital too,

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Speaker 3: because there can be situations where the hospital, like we

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Speaker 3: had a situation once we had an autopsy once where

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Speaker 3: a woman did not want to be induced and she

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Speaker 3: was like forty two weeks pregnant. She didn't want to

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Speaker 3: be induced, and they were like, we really want to

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Speaker 3: induce you. She didn't want to do the drugs and

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Speaker 3: she was like, I want to do something natural, like

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Speaker 3: nipple stimulation could could set off a childbirst sometimes and

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Speaker 3: it wasn't working right, But she said that she didn't

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Speaker 3: want to do it, and then the baby died and

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Speaker 3: we had to do the autopsy on it. And there's

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Speaker 3: a because the baby had a muconium aspiration and ended

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Speaker 3: up dying because of that, right, So, and that's just

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Speaker 3: from being in there too long. That's why they don't

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Speaker 3: They don't want to let it go that long. That's

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Speaker 3: why they wanted to induce and blah blah blah. So

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Speaker 3: that's good for the hospital too, because that's not the

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Speaker 3: hospital's fault. That was her fault for denying, you know.

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Speaker 3: So like I think it would be good for both

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Speaker 3: parties to just have that in writing and it would

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Speaker 3: just you know, everybody's on the same page, and then

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Speaker 3: if anything happens, you know who to blame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why they kind of pushed to have

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Speaker 1: dulas too, because I guess Adula like, really the kids

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Speaker 1: for what you want, and it's I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: you who has no problem being pushy, so like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not worried about that, but some people don't aren't familiar

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Speaker 1: with the medical environment, and it is good to have

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Speaker 1: somebody in your corner that's pushing for me you want,

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Speaker 1: I agree, all right. So a woman was said to

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Speaker 1: have surgery to remove a twenty two pound tumor from

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Speaker 1: her uterus, and during the routine testing before the surgery,

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Speaker 1: doctors were shocked to find a full term, eight pound

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Speaker 1: baby hiding bind.

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Speaker 3: So she had this ovarian cyst that she knew about

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Speaker 3: for a while, and all of a sudden it started

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Speaker 3: getting bigger, I'm assuming, to the point where she looked

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Speaker 3: like she was pregnant because it was pushing out so much.

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Speaker 3: So she decided she was finally gonna get it surgically

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Speaker 3: removed and went to get the testing. And one of

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Speaker 3: the blood work that they do is to test to

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Speaker 3: see if you're pregnant, because they don't want to do

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Speaker 3: surgery on a pregnant person, right, they do it, and

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Speaker 3: the pregnancy test is positive. But sometimes, especially when you

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Speaker 3: have an ovary tumor, there's certain kind of tumor that

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Speaker 3: secrete the hormone HGG human choreonic gonadotropin, which is the

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Speaker 3: same pregnancy hormone. So tumors that have set like embryonic cells,

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Speaker 3: like a germ cell tumor of the ovary, sometimes they

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Speaker 3: could test positive on a pregnancy test. Even men that

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Speaker 3: have certain tumors can get a positive pregnancy test if

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Speaker 3: they have these certain kinds of hormone producing tumors. So

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they really thought much of it

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Speaker 3: at the time because they thought that it could have

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Speaker 3: possibly been linked to this ovary, this large ovary mass

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Speaker 3: that she had, and sure enough they figured out that

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Speaker 3: she had this rare abdominal pregnancy, which is it's so

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Speaker 3: so rare. But we've talked about it a couple different

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Speaker 3: times on this show. Recently we had we talked about

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a week or two

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Speaker 3: ago when we talked about the first case ever of

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Speaker 3: an abdominal pregnancy on the liver. Yeah so now yeah so,

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Speaker 3: and how incredibly rare that was in that baby act

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Speaker 3: survived too. So one of the things that I was

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Speaker 3: mentioning in that episode was that when the baby's inside

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Speaker 3: the abdomen, it's not protected in this this fortress of

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Speaker 3: like uterus wall muscle that's a big pillow around the baby,

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Speaker 3: protecting it so that the placentas implanting directly on wherever

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Speaker 3: it's implanting inside the abdomen. And there's just like this

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Speaker 3: huge risk of bleeding associated with it, and it's such

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Speaker 3: a high risk pregnancy and delivery. So they had a

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Speaker 3: couple surgeons and they did they did the surgery, remove

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Speaker 3: the baby, the babies alive and well, and they removed

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Speaker 3: the tumor as well, and it was huge, huge ovarian

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Speaker 3: cyst cystic tumor. They didn't mention what that ended up being.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was. I mean, they could

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Speaker 3: be benign, or they could be malignant, or they could

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Speaker 3: be kind of what's called borderline. They could be kind

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Speaker 3: of like an in between kind of tumor. But aside

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Speaker 3: from that, they think that the reason that she thought

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Speaker 3: that the ovarian mass was getting bigger wasn't because it

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Speaker 3: was actually getting bigger. It's because she had a full

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Speaker 3: term baby growing behind it that was like pushing it

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Speaker 3: out more.

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Speaker 1: That is crazy, and they were saying it took thirty

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Speaker 1: doctors between delivering the baby, removing the cyst, making sure

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Speaker 1: they were safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you, like, she could have bled

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Speaker 3: to death and they had to give her like a

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Speaker 3: lot of units of blood. She really could have bled

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Speaker 3: to death and it could have killed both of them.

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean, think about being a doctor that

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Speaker 3: delivers babies for a living. You certainly don't want to

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Speaker 3: send a parent home without their significant other and their baby.

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Speaker 2: Like that's just terrible.

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Speaker 3: So and and I mean it's it's also super exciting

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Speaker 3: for the doctors because what a rare, weird case to happen,

641
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Speaker 3: and it all, I mean, this baby was eight pounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And the coolest part is is that she was she

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Speaker 3: was very excited about it because she did want to

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Speaker 3: have another kid and thought that this ovary too was

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Speaker 3: like a reason that she couldn't have another kid and

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Speaker 3: all this stuff. And then here she's just like didn't

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Speaker 3: even know she was pregnant. And that's why we say

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Speaker 3: she had a good excuse. It's like one of the

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Speaker 3: rare times she actually has a good excuse. And it's

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Speaker 3: cool because she just kind of like has a baby

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Speaker 3: now that's all ready to go and didn't even know

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's crazy. All right, guys, Well, today

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be our holiday spectacular episode, but as

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Speaker 1: we know, the news was crazier than ever. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: we can get to that next week. But you never know,

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like it's slowing down anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: We have a really cool show coming up in New

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Speaker 1: York City in February. We will be releasing more details

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Speaker 1: about that soon, but don't miss out on those tickets

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Speaker 1: you guys, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As a reminder,

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Speaker 3: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a

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Speaker 3: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 3: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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Speaker 3: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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