WEBVTT - “MY FURRY FRIEND GROUP EXPLODED” 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.120 Hey, folks, My Therapy Gecko Live Show Tour is starting 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:08.840 very soon with shows in San Diego, Los Angeles, all 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:13.119 over the Pacific Northwest and all over the country, the 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.439 Country of America, and like three cities in Canada. You 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.280 can look at all of the cities that are available 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.560 and get tickets right now at therapy geckotour dot com 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.240 or check the link in the episode description. These shows 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.960 will be a combination of group Gecko therapy sessions with 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.239 the audience. Plus I've got stories of my own that 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.000 I will be telling from my travels across the universe 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.159 interviewing people as a gecko. The shows are always a 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.599 great time. 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They the interpersonal relationships amongst your furry friend 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:41.240 group have have gone astray? Is that what I am 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:41.920 to understand? 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:44.560 Yes? 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.920 So what happened? Was there some sort of inciting incident? 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:59.720 Oh man, what a long story? Okay, well let's see 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:05.520 where do we start. Me and my boyfriend had a 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:11.800 friend group. Obviously we met one of We met a 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.920 couple in the group maybe what five or six years ago, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.720 and we became really good friends with them. Long story short, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:24.480 it's been probably five or six years. At some point 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.160 I joined the furry fandom because I thought it was interesting, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.920 thought it was cool. I was making suits, I had 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.480 a social media and I kept everything hidden from them 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.480 because I wasn't comfortable sharing it with them. And one 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:39.680 of them actually found me. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:40.840 Wow. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:47.560 So yeah, the whole group kind of found out about it. Figured, 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.000 you know, tell one to tell them all, and everyone 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.040 was really cool with it, so they actually kind of 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.000 got into the fandom. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:59.640 Ah, you converted them. Wait, that's Razzy, that's great. You 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:04.800 were from your friends and little did you. It's so funny. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.800 You thought that they would make fun of you, but 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.520 you converted them into furries. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:15.359 Yes, definitely, definitely one of the best outcomes I could 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.240 have gotten for sure. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.760 Yes, okay, go ahead. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.480 So yeah, so they joined, I helped them make their sonas, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:30.280 I helped make their suits, and then so uh we 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:35.920 pretty much did that all last year. However, the group 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.640 is two couples and another person kind of joined it, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:41.400 which is our neighbor. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:43.560 What. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.160 Yeah, so it was us two couples, and we also 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:53.120 became friends with our our neighbor as well, who was 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.160 he's just like a single guy was at home, so 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.840 he joined the group as well. So our group is 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.320 now like five pretty. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:06.800 Much, okay, And you helped everyone so everyone was like, oh, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.520 we want to get into this too, and you were 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:15.240 kind of like the guiding hand for everyone through all 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.720 of this. So you helped everyone pick their for sonas 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:24.480 or sonah for short. Yeah apparently, how I now, okay, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.120 I'm curious about this, Like, were you doing like a 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.880 sorting hat kind of a thing where you asked them 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.760 a lot of questions and then you were like, you 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.839 are a turtle, you are a fox? Like how like 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.320 if I came to you and I said, I want 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:42.120 I want your help picking up for Sona. What how 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.280 would you help me do that? What kind of questions 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.919 would you ask me to help me build this profile 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:48.640 of myself. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.160 I feel like a good place to start is always 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:58.200 like your favorite color and your favorite animal. That's pretty 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.360 much what I do. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.400 That's a whole lot. That's a total cop out, by 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.400 the way. That's a total cop out, by the way, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.440 to just be like, what's your favorite animal? Okay, that's 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:08.320 what you should be. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.400 Yeah, I mean if you if you like the animal, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.200 it's easier to kind of attach to it, you know 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:15.640 what I mean? 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.960 You know what I think I'm trying to overcomplicate this 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:19.680 for no reason. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:23.599 Maybe I don't know. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.919 That's pretty much what I did. There's there's people that 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.880 have like their own, you know, custom characters that have 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:36.400 backstories and different personalities and stuff. But like, I don't know, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.640 I just I just wanted to be my favorite animal 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:41.440 and colors. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:50.640 So but yeah, okay, so you help everyone make their 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.720 for Sona, and then everyone's getting into it, the neighbor's 0:05:54.760 --> 0:06:01.520 getting into it, and then how did things all fall apart? 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.080 Well, the around the middle of last year, we went 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.520 to like a really big con and then for the 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.000 time after that, it seems like the neighbor was uh 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.560 starting to cross some boundaries. I guess I'll say he 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:25.640 was getting really close with like myself and my friend's 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:30.680 uh girlfriend. He would kind of come over to like 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:35.240 our house, like I won't say uninvited, but like unannounced, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.800 and he would just kind of like show up. He 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.360 was trying to hang out with us and was succeeding 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:45.840 with the other person. I don't know, I just like 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.520 more than like a normal friend in a group would 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:50.640 with someone's girlfriend. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.520 Oh, he was already like one of the girlfriends. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:01.560 Yeah, okay, it seems that way in hindsight, but you know, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.960 over you know that period of months, you know, like 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:11.200 red flags were kind of raised. Both the boyfriends would 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.880 like talk to him and be like, hey, can you 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.960 like step off? They would talk to their girlfriends and 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.280 be like, hey, can you like also step off? But 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.520 ultimately it came out a few weeks ago, I guess 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.040 shortly after roughly I texted her before I texted you, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.360 and we just we got a message that was like, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.720 you know, this person's my ex now and they were 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.200 cheating because they decided to check her phone and apparently 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.080 it had been going on since that large canival last year, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:47.160 so the whole group just kind of exploded after that. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.080 So kind of where we're at. 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:55.920 Okay, so you're back to being a proverbial and literal 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:56.680 lone wolf. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 Me, Me and my partner are still together. It was 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.239 unfortunately the other you know group that we have met 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.480 and you know, made a relationship with over time, but 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.480 now obviously they're not together, and now uh one of 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.840 them is going on like a you know, they're you know, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.440 dealing with everything. So I mean they're both dealing with everything. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.400 But yeah, pretty much, Uh, we we lost pretty much 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.720 the entire friend group. So we're just kind of with 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:29.160 that now. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.600 Okay, so you're I hear someone in the background. Is 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.280 that you're you're uh your your s o? 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:38.800 Yes? 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.960 And are they also a free. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:45.080 Yes? 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.840 He supports me and it yes. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.640 Okay, what is his? What's his? Who's he? What's his persona? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.200 He is a purple wolf? 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.120 Well, okay, what are you? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.400 I'm a purple tiger? 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.440 You're a purple tiger. Was that a coincidence that you 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.800 guys are both purple? Or is it like and you 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.760 can only like the animals can only have sex with 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.440 each other if they're the same color. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:21.880 Now, originally he started as a completely different species, but 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.679 that's kind of when I was learning to make them, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.960 so it didn't turn out very good. And then he 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:32.319 actually became in anubist like the Egyptian like dog god. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:36.280 Oh okay, I actually you know what, I think that's cool? 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.920 Is there like a hierarchy between Like some do the 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:46.360 people who choose to be creatures that have mythological origins 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.360 think they're better than the people who choose creatures that 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:52.679 are bounded by reality. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.199 I think some might. We have seen there's another person 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.320 that's in the Nubis as well, and he seems to 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.040 have a different aura. He definitely has a I don't know, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.360 he has a different aura than us for sure. We 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.520 just tryd of go to hang out and be silly. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.120 You know, it's funny. I wait, actually, hold on, he 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.320 has a different in what way? A different aura? What 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.959 do you mean? Like he takes it more seriously? 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.400 How do we describe the other new of this? He's 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:27.080 just like in his like body language and how he 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.280 like walks around. It's like slower. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:31.880 It's like. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.000 I guess maybe like confident could be a word, but like, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.120 you know, like he has like a presence more. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.400 Do you do? How into it do people get? 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:44.480 Like? 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.280 Are there some people who genuinely start to believe that 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.000 they are these animals? 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.839 The ones that usually believe their animals are usually classified 0:10:54.840 --> 0:11:00.719 as theians. This is definitely yeah, Yeah, those are ones 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.960 that like definitely identify like I am a wolf, I 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.400 am a you know, links or whatever. They usually wear 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.320 like the masks over like the entire suit. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.400 Okay, is a fairy And that's a word for like 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.240 a person who genuinely literally believes and identifies themselves as 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.880 an animal across all aspects of their life. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.040 I think I don't know if that's like a perfect definition, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.040 And I'm sure there's different people that are different like. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.400 Degreaves of it, but. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:40.640 Observations, Yeah, that's that's like my understanding of it. Yeah, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.080 we've definitely met there's a oh, there's a there's a 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.520 very large like spectrum of people in the in the 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.760 furry fandom for sure, though in the years we've been 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:48.959 in it. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:55.920 Interesting was like, okay, like what's the most hardcore into 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.040 it a person gets? 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.720 That's a really good question. I guess they would be. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.800 I would describe it as their life probably overtaken by 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.120 the hobby in a way that's like all of like 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.840 a hunt, Like a lot of their money goes into it. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.719 It's pretty much like their life at that point. They're 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:22.000 probably traveling to places they probably have like a dedicated 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:29.560 social media or like multiple maybe even like Sonas. I guess, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:34.000 I'm not sure. I don't think uh yeah, I'm not. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.280 I'm not sure that that would be like my guess. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:38.080 You know. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.280 It's funny that we're talking today because this morning I 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.840 was I was on Instagram reels. Tell me if this 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.280 feels right to you. I was on Instagram reels and 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:53.440 I got a reel of this guy in like a 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:58.000 wolf first suit and he was going like, hey, everyone, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.000 this is a check in. Did you have your water today? 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.120 Did you take your medication today? How are you guys feeling? 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.160 I hope And he was being like very sincere and 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:13.800 wearing this Furst suit and it like in twenty eleven 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.880 a video like that. If you looked at the comments, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.360 all of the comments would be like this is cringe, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.080 this is lame, fuck this guy. But I swear to 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.360 god all I was looking through the comments and there 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.320 were lots of comments from like all people, from all 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.400 walks of life just being like, you know what, thanks 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.840 wolf man, appreciate you. This was very nice. You know. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:40.360 I feel like culturally because there's because like since since 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.439 like twenty ten, like I guess when I assume that 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:50.960 kind of furry culture was was like first introduced to 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.840 the mainstream of existence. Since twenty ten, there's just there's 0:13:54.920 --> 0:14:01.280 so much like crazy stuff going on the world that 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:07.280 like being like being quote unquote cringe is like not 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.559 the worst thing you can be, now, you know what 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.880 I mean. There's so many people being like there's so 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.800 much stuff out there that's like actively hostile and actively 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.560 like fucked up that when you see a wolf guy 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.920 telling you to like drink water, you're like, you know what, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.720 thanks man. Like I feel like like like culture is 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.320 like softened in like kind of a nice way, do 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:31.720 you know what I'm saying a little bit. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.480 Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely like expanding in a 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.520 lot more like acceptable now for sure. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:44.760 Mm hm, cause yeah, like with all these like I 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.240 don't know, there's so much like crazy shit online that 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.080 like you know, in a like in twenty ten, like 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.600 a guy in a wolf suit would be like, whoa, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.480 that's crazy but nowadays it's like, you know, fuck it, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.440 live your life. It's one of the ways in which 0:14:58.440 --> 0:14:59.960 I do think society is maybe healing. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:05.360 Yeah, it's it's definitely, it's definitely like a jump, and 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.200 it took like some time to get used to. I 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.960 think even uh uh, like our our first time even 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.600 trying to go to like a meet, like I was 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.320 too scared to even just like get out of the 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.080 cars and we just sat in the park. So it 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.400 definitely took some time. But I think that's part of 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:26.400 the fun, is, you know, learning to overcome that the 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:31.360 community is super super supportive and accepting. I like the 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.160 art a lot because there's so many creative people and characters. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.600 I don't I haven't had like a really terrible experience 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.480 or anything, or like met anybody super malicious. It's been uh, 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.680 it's been pretty chill, and I really like don. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.520 Uh So, Okay, now that your previous for a friend 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:56.760 group has dissipated, are you considering joining or creating a 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.200 new one? What's that looking like? 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.800 Definitely, Yeah, it's definitely been a big part of it 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.080 because I can't help but sort of feel like I 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.920 was maybe used in this to help them, like make 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.080 their suits. One of them wasn't even like paid off 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.960 all the way. But like, I don't really care about that. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.760 I just wanted, you know, my friends to have wanted 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:18.480 to get into it. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.520 What you find, you find it. I'm sorry you financed 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.200 some one of your friend's suits. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.120 Uh No, Like I I gave them like a row 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.280 super reasonable like friend price and they didn't even pay that. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.320 Well, oh so you made it for them after? 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:38.000 Yeah? 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.760 Yeah, I made all of my friend suits. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.840 Really that those because I know that those fucking things, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.800 Like I know that those fucking things are expensive. It's 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.560 like what like fifteen thousand dollars for like a good. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:54.040 One that's for like a crazy maker like that. That 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:59.720 would be like the Gucci of suits most uh, I say, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.520 like an average like from a it's a really like 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.680 wide range. You can get some really good stuff from 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.480 smaller makers though, for I. So you could get like 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:14.119 the pause head and tail for maybe around fifteen hundred 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:14.920 pretty average. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.720 Damn. So you feel like they use you to create 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:27.280 their first sewn as and then left you in the dust. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.960 I'm not. I don't. I truly don't think that was 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.520 their like direct intention, but you know I can't help, 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.800 but sort of feel that through you know, bringing them 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.280 into this, like it kind of caused and led to that, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.119 and I guess encouraged it because we would constantly go 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.320 to meets or there would be meats that that they 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:51.840 would go to. I think from we just we finally 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.840 went to like the first one this year, and I 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.160 definitely felt better about it and kind of remembered why 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.520 I like doing it and a lot of it's soualization. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.359 So you know, we met some new people, met some 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.840 other people we knew, so that definitely made it feel better. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.359 But you know, it is just still that, you know, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.040 the whole thing. You know, it's going to take some 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.040 time to just kind of let that in the past. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.600 I do also have my friend's suit still do so 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.959 that yes, yes, as soon as that went down, I 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.760 was keeping her suits at my house and so when 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.120 that went down, obviously I was like, cool, don't come 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.960 anywhere near me right now. So I kind of still 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.080 have them, and at this point, I definitely feel like 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.119 it's time to, I guess give them back. I don't know, 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.960 I feel like I wanted to keep them just to 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:49.240 prevent them from being able to go to That's a 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.159 preventor from kind of going to the cons and just 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.399 you know, for lack of better words, ruining it or like, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.159 you know what I mean. But I think at this 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.120 point I've reached at where I think I just need 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.800 to like give it back to her and then just 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.280 heal from there. So that's probably what I'm doing this week. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.919 Actually, did you have you ever tried it on? 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:12.160 Yeah? 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.840 And what is it? Okay, So when you wear a 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.159 first suit that does not match up with your internal 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:26.080 fort sona, how does that feel? It feels? 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.399 It feels kind of weird, you know, especially like you know, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.240 you like you can't help but put you know, look 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.240 in a mirror when you do it, and you're just like, Hm, 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.560 I'm this person, but I'm not this person. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:47.880 What's the vibe like at these meets, these conventions. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.879 It's super chill. A lot of if you have a 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.439 suit like you are going to get attention. A lot 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.280 of people come up and you know, ask for pictures 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:02.040 or they trade stickers and trinkets. It's I carry stickers 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.240 on me all the time, and you know, you just 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.920 kind of socialize and talk and stuff like that. I 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.199 think one of the cool things about suiting is like 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.240 if you went to a comic con, you might see 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.760 somebody you know, dressed like Superman. You're like, oh cool, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.360 that's Superman. It's almost like inviting. And I think the 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.080 furry fandom like you're just a character. Like you're not 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.360 like some guy in a hoodie hiding in the corner. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.679 You're a cool purple dog in the corner, like yo, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:31.479 I love purple. 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:32.120 What's up? Man? 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.719 And it makes it, you know, really inviting to interact 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:36.200 with people. 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.439 Well, personally, I think wearing an animal costume is a 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.880 bit bizarre and it's something I'd never even consider doing. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:51.120 Right, how DoD is it? 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.879 That was a joke because I'm a gecko. 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:56.760 I got to. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:00.440 Well, yeah, how would it be? You know, it's no 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:04.040 everything you're saying, I fully, I fully do get that. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.400 Like even like like I know, like, you know whatever, 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.000 it's funny. Even if I wasn't like like an internet 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.080 guy or whatever, Like just being in a costume walking 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:18.440 around it does make you feel like you're you're like, uh, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:20.680 go at getting outside of yourself. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:28.520 Yeah, it's it's really cool. I've never like been like 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:33.000 a super girl like good at make up, Like I'm 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.040 not like a supermodel by any means. But that's another 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:37.840 cool part of the fandom too, is you just put 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.639 the head on right, like you don't need to be 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.320 like a super you don't need to be super attractive. 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.680 You don't need you know what I mean. You kind 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.080 of just put on some paws and a tail and poof, 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:49.480 like it's fine. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.119 So what what do you think it would be like 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.600 if I went as a gecko? Like, how do you think? Actually? 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.520 I guess of all of all the Like, it's funny 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.400 because I think of all the places where I would 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.480 go to do my gecko thing, I feel like it 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.560 wouldn't It wouldn't work there because the whole point of 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:07.199 the gether thing is like I kind of stand out 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:08.320 a little bit. That would be the only that would 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:09.520 be one of the only places I could go to 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.960 do it, where like I would actually blend in more 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:14.040 I think, right. 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.720 Yeah, No, I think you would definitely blend in pretty 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:19.880 good out of good? 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:25.199 Is there a certain section just for scalies. I know 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.240 that that's kind of its own subculture. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.919 It's pretty open to everyone. There's people that just do 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:37.680 like normal cosplay. You know, we'll dress up as you know, whoever, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.960 only I'd say for every three people, really only one 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.119 of them has a suit, So there's a lot of humans. 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:54.240 It's uh, there's all sorts of different species. Yeah, I 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.000 mean it's it's really like it's it's definitely an experience, 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.640 not something you can really find at any other conventions. 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:08.520 Mmmm. Okay, So before we go, what's next for you 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.960 in your free pursuits? Is there Colm coming up? Is 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:17.439 there a new fer sona you're exploring what is next 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:18.560 on this adventure? 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.679 Right now? We do have I think we're gonna do 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.480 a one day con this weekend, and there's a large 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.040 one coming up pretty much in the middle of uh 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:34.119 and on the middle of in July. But for me, 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.959 I'm kind of just you know, I'm continuing to focus 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.639 on pretty much my little first use making business. I 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.400 might make an Etsy, and I'm gonna just keep bringing 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.520 you know, joy to people. I've made probably about what 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.680