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Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: No Fouls Given, presented by Prize Picks. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 1: your co host, Big Wise, joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: god Danny Green, my boy Paul Pierce, and Man, I

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Speaker 1: hope y'all getting y'all bag this episode.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm not gonna hold you.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Got a dope show Linda for you guys. Let's get

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Speaker 4: Unsurprisingly crazy enough, the conversation started with Yiannis last time, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: talking about it because he just scored twenty six thousandthing.

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Speaker 2: Got us into the back.

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Speaker 4: He was the sixth fastest to get to twenty.

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Speaker 1: An elite NBA scorer no matter how you slice it, like,

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Speaker 1: the guy has been one of the best at putting

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Speaker 1: the ball in the basket that we've ever seen. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Giannie has been pretty vocal about his frustration this weekend

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Speaker 1: the season. Excuse me of this of this season, but

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Speaker 1: after I lost this past week, he said, quote, we

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Speaker 1: had the opportunity to go to Vegas twice in a row.

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Speaker 1: Not going and being able to gamble on thirty four

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Speaker 1: and read one more time is going to be very

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Speaker 1: tough for me. At the end of the day, I

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Speaker 1: want to win. We've lost seven in a row. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember the last time I lost seven in a row. Subsequently,

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Speaker 1: the streak has been extended to eight games with the

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Speaker 1: loss to the lowly Washington.

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Speaker 4: Wizards and Chris Middleton putting them to.

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Speaker 2: Sleep at the Monday night. Yeah, Middleton's got to be tough.

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Speaker 2: Should have never traded me.

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Speaker 4: You got the clip because I feel like part of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: watching in the middle clip, I feel like part of it.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like you're some joking.

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Speaker 2: In the Yeah, yeah, you talk about gambling on what Vegas?

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Speaker 4: Thirty thirty four? Yeah, thirty four red when we're.

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Speaker 1: Tell you realized that wasn't a better on black guy,

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Speaker 1: there was a don't always.

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Speaker 2: Better on black. That's my motto, Always better.

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Speaker 5: On black, always bet on black.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Hold on cue that up first, Chris, Please, you've.

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Speaker 5: Got a chance to advance for the win tonight.

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Speaker 3: You're disappointed to not get a chance to try to

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Speaker 3: defend the title.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 6: Obviously you know you want to You want to win games,

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Speaker 6: you want to win tournaments.

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Speaker 5: We had to go to Vegas.

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Speaker 6: Question at all, not going to Vegas, not be able

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Speaker 6: to gamble on the thirty four Red my more time.

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be very, very tough for me.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I just want

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Speaker 6: to win. We've seven that oh I want. That's not

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Speaker 6: my last seven, last seven at all. So we just

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Speaker 6: gotta lacking Bottle Clean, which they've been playing as a

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Speaker 6: late very very well.

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Speaker 5: We gotta be able to get.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every game for them is they gotta they gotta

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Speaker 4: take it serious, bro, because you can't. If you lose

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Speaker 4: in Brooklyn, then it's it's because Washington's already that's a

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Speaker 4: reevaluation game. You lose the Washington, you're looking at yourself

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Speaker 4: and your team, like, what the fuck is going on?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But I think you said again,

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Speaker 4: I think thirty four is numbers. That's why. So I

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not sure there's a thirty four black,

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Speaker 4: So I'm not you know what I'm saying, not both numbers.

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Speaker 2: Right when you when you watch that, what are you seeing?

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Speaker 5: Paul? I think he's just frustrated, like super frustrated.

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Speaker 3: Because like when I look at the numbers, and I

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Speaker 3: look at the last few years how they went out.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I'm in my prime and I should

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Speaker 3: be like contending for championship. I mean, we're talking about

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest power forwards ever. If we look

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Speaker 3: at his last five years since he won a championship,

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Speaker 3: it's clear frustration that he's not making deep playoff runs,

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Speaker 3: you know, with the team that he got, and they've tried.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they went out and got Dame a

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Speaker 3: year ago. Then you know Dame didn't want no more

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Speaker 3: smoke with the Bucks, and now they're just trying to

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Speaker 3: figure it out. He's in the crossroads of his career

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Speaker 3: to where he got another good five years. Maybe you

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Speaker 3: hope playing at this level, hopefully that he's like, man,

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Speaker 3: my window is shortened every year when you look at

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Speaker 3: of those guys that I know that he says, I

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Speaker 3: want to be considered one of the best ever, and

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Speaker 3: to do that, I gotta win multiple championships. That's what

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Speaker 3: I get from Giannis when he speaks to the media,

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Speaker 3: how his work at how he plays, and when he

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Speaker 3: comes in the season and he's losing and he's under

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Speaker 3: five hundred and he's not getting out of the first round.

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Speaker 5: Stretching this building, it's snowballing.

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Speaker 4: It's a second that I think it was you that

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Speaker 4: said he very much cares about his numbers, not just

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Speaker 4: the championships, but he is not in the MVP conversation

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Speaker 4: the last couple of years because they're not winning and

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Speaker 4: he's playing MVP like type numbers. He's an MVP levels,

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Speaker 4: So for him to only have one of them when

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Speaker 4: he thought like I could easily get two or three

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Speaker 4: MVPs watching jo do it, watch Joelle do it. Because

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Speaker 4: his team is not up to par. It's definitely eating

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Speaker 4: at them, you know what I'm saying. And it seems

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Speaker 4: like every year they're trying to fix the mistakes that

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Speaker 4: they're making, and it's a mistake on top of mistake

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Speaker 4: on the time, like you let go Dame towards kids,

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Speaker 4: you pick a mouse turn to try to cover, Like

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Speaker 4: that's not gonna fix it. You fire three different coaches,

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Speaker 4: you fire, but you're bringing Adrian. You fire Adrian, You're

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Speaker 4: bringing Doc. And then now your record is you didn't

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Speaker 4: respect it. Now your records, where's that? Now you can't

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Speaker 4: fire this coach, not saying that he's the issue, but

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Speaker 4: you go through a bunch of coaches, you go through

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Speaker 4: a bunch of players, You trade Chris get Cools and

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Speaker 4: you can let go Drew Holliday, Drew Gogets the championship

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Speaker 4: and boss them. That's got to eat at you a

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Speaker 4: little bit. I'm saying the fact that you're not beginning season.

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Speaker 4: They were better than we expected. He was MVP conversation

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Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago. By hear nothing about it.

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Speaker 3: They'll be lucky to make the playoffs, truthfully, the way

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Speaker 3: they're playing with him doing getting these numbers, and he

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Speaker 3: can't afford to miss no more games now, like if

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Speaker 3: they're gonna make the playoffs, he can't afford no more time.

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Speaker 5: And we're only twenty two games in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty two games in, and you've already gone through

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Speaker 1: an eight game losing streak in the span of that

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Speaker 1: twenty two games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough way to start the season.

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Speaker 1: And I think the reason why we're talking about this

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Speaker 1: is to my mind, for two reasons. In the off well,

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Speaker 1: whenever Giannis has been asked in the past, because it's

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Speaker 1: come up a lot in his future with the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: And I think I remember I went on My Boys

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Speaker 2: show and they had like a Bucks fan come on

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Speaker 2: and ask questions, and I was like, he's.

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Speaker 1: Good as gone, and the dude was like, oh, the

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Speaker 1: media has been trading Giannis for how many years?

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Speaker 2: Is blah bl blah blah blah. And I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 4: The media is not coming from nowhere.

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Speaker 2: It's smoke there.

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Speaker 1: But what he's always said is as long as they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to win a Milwaukee I want to

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Speaker 1: be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that chance has been gone for I think that

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Speaker 3: window is closing because I don't really see.

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Speaker 3: When you have a guy this caliber. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: But it's not like they haven't been trying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got Damn that was the one trying for.

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Speaker 2: The fences and miss with injuries and injuries. It didn't work.

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Speaker 3: And Middleton he was injured. Yeah, and they traded him

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Speaker 3: and they tried to get younger.

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Speaker 5: They're trying.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, just not a guy like Jannis. You're

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Speaker 4: one piece away from getting to the finals, but winning championship.

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Speaker 5: You need to.

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Speaker 4: You're not beating okay see or Denver without a big three.

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Speaker 4: All these teams that one as of late have everybody

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Speaker 5: No, there's only one team that got like a big

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Speaker 5: three right now.

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Speaker 3: That's okay See, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Denber got never got three people Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray,

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Speaker 4: like again, there's other guys that make up for that third.

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Speaker 4: Lakers got three. Like this, there's either two superstars and

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Speaker 3: There's no big threes right now. Big threes is three

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Speaker 3: All Stars. If we want to keep it one hundred,

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Speaker 3: we all stars. Legit Lakers like we had a big three.

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Speaker 3: That's a real big three, that's a big two and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 4: I think Lakers got come on two and a half,

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Speaker 4: Come on big. I really think I think Denver has

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Speaker 4: a bit like they could have had three guys at

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Speaker 4: All Star Games.

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Speaker 5: They got a big one. No Jamalma play as level

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Speaker 5: big one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I would say about Jannis and has always

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Speaker 1: been my kind of criticism of Giannis. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like he's a floor razor for his guys around him,

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Speaker 4: Impacts, winning impacts, empowering his teammates.

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Speaker 3: This is what I see with jokis he understands how

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: No, he's not anymore. I feel at a time when

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not to this year this year is That's.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like, how can we give him that?

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Speaker 4: I think they all elevated each other.

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Speaker 1: I think the best Bucks team when he's playing next

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Speaker 2: And I think that's when he played his best ball.

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Speaker 4: For sure again you know doing that, there's very few

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Speaker 5: Think Luca elevates.

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Speaker 1: I guess, and I don't want to, you know, make

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Speaker 1: Sort of the sort of negative view of Yannis and

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Speaker 1: twenty one, y'all won a championship. Nobody could take it away.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in asterisk championships.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe in none of that.

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Speaker 1: You play the games in front of you win a championship.

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Speaker 1: With the honest thing, it's run its course, I think

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Speaker 2: Didn't ask them to look into a nature like that happened.

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Speaker 4: This is what I mean. He's ad. They reported that

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Speaker 1: If that could work, definitely trade me. They looked into

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Speaker 4: I was reported for no reason. Shaam's is valid.

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Speaker 4: Season, maybe before the lost season, you think, I.

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Speaker 5: So what are the Bucks?

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Speaker 3: What are the Bucks do if you lose Yon this

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Speaker 5: Try to get this draft?

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Speaker 2: No, I think you. I think before this year's draft

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you try to get in this year.

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Speaker 4: Because this year's draft is one of the stronger, stronger

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's your Maybe that might be

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Speaker 4: Now, it's a it's a really good draft coming up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Bro, you know it's gonna I just you know, with

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say that, yeah, they should try

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Speaker 4: So again, if we trade Giannis, who we trade him

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you trade him to New York

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Speaker 4: If that's where he wants to go, like he.

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Speaker 3: Would you do this trade? I said this trade last year?

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Speaker 3: Would you trade Chat for Jannis?

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Speaker 2: If I'm okay? See no, because nic is not signing.

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Speaker 1: Because if he does, though, because he's not gonna leave

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Speaker 5: To win the next four or five.

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Speaker 2: I think this is all about winning.

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00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 4: I think he says, no, they need more to just check. Well,

442
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 4: you get some here, take some draft picks.

443
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 5: But you got to.

444
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: An incredible package together. If that's the route that they took.

445
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 5: But if you're okay, see, do you do it absolutely?

446
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 4: I don't think they do absolutely. You do it tonight tomorrow?

447
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: Do that coming off a championship?

448
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 4: Do you do that champions because you for sure you're

449
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 4: getting another ship. You got you get v team. No

450
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 4: longer think that.

451
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 5: You stay younger with a team that's one and one.

452
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 4: You got enough draft picks to be young forever, even

453
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: if you get rid of something. They got a bag

454
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: full of draft picks. If I can get Yannis for

455
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 4: the next four years with him and Shade two m

456
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: v P one outside, one inside, you shouldn't me. You

457
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 4: shouldn't mean.

458
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: I guess. I don't think this is.

459
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: The first time okayc has come up as a Giannis

460
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: trade destination because of the things he mentioned, the asset

461
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: to the draft picks. From what I've heard, if Sam

462
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: Presty called and was like, Yo, what do you think

463
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: about coming to the Prairie, it's not.

464
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 5: Bro, you lived in Milwaukee. I don't want to hear

465
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: that it's better there.

466
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear there. Okay, see, save some

467
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 4: money the Bahamas.

468
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: So Jannis wants to do something.

469
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 5: Different random here.

470
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 4: I think he's wants to win and wants to be

471
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 4: able to win MVP more MVPs and.

472
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: Okay, see another thing people got to realize, Yannis has

473
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of been used to being catered to as a

474
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: high maintenance superstar. OKC is running a program where it's like,

475
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: no management is in charge over here.

476
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 5: Not because it's because they dealing with kids.

477
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying, no.

478
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: Divas there since you know o KB and Russ left.

479
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: Trying to tell you like at first was down with

480
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: the program and then he was like I need to

481
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here.

482
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: I think it was more than there's other reasons out

483
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: of that other than that KT left. Sure, but let's

484
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: look at other destinations for y Honest, I'm looking at

485
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: he wants to do a big city. If it's not

486
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: New York, you say not, okay, see I'm looking at

487
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: maybe Miami. Okay, I mean you need Khalil.

488
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: Where are they way better? By replace seeing BAM with.

489
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: Like if I'm Milwaukee I'm asking for say again, the

490
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 4: better know you keep them keeping together.

491
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Oh you keep bam together. So aware it's a future picks.

492
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: And you got you you don't have a contract. You

493
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: got contract, you guys, you.

494
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 4: Got no money, you got you got Yovich, you got

495
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 4: Tea how may hawkas and then Andrew Wiggins. Well you

496
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 4: put with Wiggs. Got enough money in the contract where

497
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: you can throw him in there with like how may

498
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: Hawks and like.

499
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 5: If I'm going in another direction, those.

500
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: Young kids with the picks, we can put those guys.

501
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: I like Hotcast, I like Yovich, I like I love.

502
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get those guys with picks. I just don't

503
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: and then throwing as a money they might.

504
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: Try to play hardball.

505
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: Because that's another thing, of course you got to understand,

506
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: is like once we get to this summer and Giannie

507
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: is one your left on his deal, he's leveraging the

508
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: ship out of.

509
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 5: For sure, Toronto makes more sense.

510
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: Can give up pieces Toronto? Yeah, it makes sense that

511
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: you know we're not there, not there, no more Massia,

512
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: not there, no more. Like that was the connect that

513
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: would have been the connection to make it happen.

514
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: That makes more sense.

515
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: I mean to me, the next thing. I would love

516
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: to see it happen.

517
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: You want to give Miami guy like I didn't give

518
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 4: you think he would.

519
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Make more stalk move.

520
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: All really do because I don't think Brunton make any

521
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: sense whatsoever together.

522
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: More sense that you know things, more sense than catonnon.

523
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Bruh like, like at least.

524
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: He's more of a defender.

525
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Sure it fixes that defensive.

526
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: In that capacity, but in terms of offense, you're not

527
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: getting no type of cons.

528
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: You have to give up because Josh Hart does the

529
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: same thing, like you have to like because you have

530
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 4: to surround them with shooters and and Brunton. You have

531
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: to give up the other guys that that that drive

532
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 4: and penetrate like that, Like Josh Hard. You probably give

533
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: Mitchell Robinson clear the pain. You can't have a bunch

534
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: of guys that can't shoot either.

535
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's a great ya. I mean

536
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: the Oka C thing.

537
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: Again, no team in that position has ever done something

538
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: like that. Like we're coming off a championship, we're too.

539
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if okay see somehow got upset in

540
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, maybe they do do a Golden

541
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: State getting k D and being like yo, we need

542
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: to move Heaven and Earth.

543
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 5: They don't have to Detroit.

544
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, Detroit, definitely, you're GMing right now. Bronna lie To you.

545
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: Might be right now.

546
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: You can get if you can say Durham.

547
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would have to be like said

548
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: the older guys, like like Tobias, I don't have to

549
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 4: give it, but I wouldn't give up Dura.

550
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: When you're gonna have to give up a young build.

551
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: Your draft picks are gonna be worthless for the next guys.

552
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 5: Gotta be I mean during and like Tobias to make

553
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: the contract work.

554
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: And then I'm with Duran and a men Thompson.

555
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 4: I'll give up Thompson, I saw it. I'll give up

556
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: Sir Thompson. I'll give I don't want to give, but

557
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 4: Tobias or Sir Thompson and like pick Iv, I'm not

558
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: giving up Durn. There's no way.

559
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 5: Again, but no way.

560
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: And here's the problem. Here's the problem with that again.

561
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: Johannis is extension eligible as soon as he gets traded.

562
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't extend with it, like given inclination

563
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: to his representation, I'm interested in extending.

564
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Then you can't give up all of that ship for there's.

565
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: Gonna be there's gonna be an understanding. That's all gonna be.

566
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: They can figure it out, that's all gonna be talked about.

567
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna be done before it happened.

568
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: It has to be.

569
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: Those two. And to me untouchable. Who's untouchable Kate and

570
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: Durant if I'm of course Kate and d is not untouchable.

571
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 5: Window in the East.

572
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: Man child and his bag is only getting better. Bro, what,

573
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: I'm not not trading for a d D.

574
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 5: Easily.

575
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: Anybody get traded, for sure. Anybody be traded for sure,

576
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: But in my mind, I'm not letting during go. He's

577
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: twenty two years old and he's not He's coming out

578
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 4: of shape doing hookah ship. He's a man child. David

579
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 4: Robinson chiseled up. He is talking about coming and looking crazy,

580
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: and now he's move He's making moves with the fucking

581
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: Chiseu like the he looks, brostre I just got a

582
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: two minute reel of him doing like moves.

583
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 5: I just think, what in the game.

584
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: In the game, bro, we think he's a borderline. Also

585
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: within is an m v P.

586
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 4: There's a golf I'm saying during the trying winning He's

587
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: an All Star for some years. Him and Kate are

588
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 4: gonna be All Stars for years to come. He's gonna

589
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 4: be he could be also this year and he's twenty two.

590
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 7: What is he?

591
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: You think you have a better chance winning the championship.

592
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm just saying you have a better chance of being

593
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: good for law longer. But but we played it win

594
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: champions There's no there's no guarantee I won the championship

595
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: with league years.

596
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: Though there's I just played to win championships as this.

597
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 5: There's no there's not gonna be no more dynasties.

598
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: But let's you gotta get one. U just get one

599
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: to get one. The question of dynasty can.

600
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Be four years of the next four years of Giannie

601
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: or the next eight years of Durant.

602
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: Who has a better chance of winning the championship to

603
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: depend the next four years if you're surround them, But

604
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: either way you're not.

605
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it.

606
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 4: You gotta surround them with you gotta get the piece

607
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: around those two. Still, you still got to surround kid

608
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: and whoever whoever you choose with company enough to beat Okay, see,

609
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: So if I want to contend, okay, see for the

610
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: next ten years. I'm keeping my youth. Johanna's got you

611
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: four years. I need to keep foundational pieces that I

612
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: can keep for t has a ten year running them

613
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: bro all them at twenty two years old.

614
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: Like that's the thing. They're gonna start getting to the

615
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 5: taxes and the same gonna happen.

616
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: They got thirteen draft pick Listen with Boston.

617
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: You see what happened with Boston.

618
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: They got so heavy in the tacks because they had

619
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: anybody traded for that's about to happen to Okay.

620
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Build everybody through their draft picks.

621
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: And they got to start signing some of them they

622
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: can keep.

623
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: They can keep guys and keep signing them a three

624
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: year contract for eight million. They're gonna keep finding money

625
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: in the draft.

626
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to second. But because Chris didn't have that.

627
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: On the docket.

628
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: Uh, this is the picks and stink here.

629
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: He's done by this off season for sure.

630
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he's gone again.

631
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: This is last season in Milwaukee.

632
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, if last season, if I'm Milwaukee, I'll try to

633
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: before all start burn down bad by all Star. I'll

634
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: try to make an early move.

635
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: The more you'll get more in return.

636
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they should have did it this past

637
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: off season, all right, So to do something really you're right,

638
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: did it?

639
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: They would have got way more.

640
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: We wanted to do something really quick, just a new

641
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: little sort of give you guys who are picking with

642
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: us on prize picks, just a quick rundown and explain

643
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: our records from our last picks. The Heat fourteen and seven,

644
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: beat the Brakes off the Clippers, who are now five

645
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: and sixteen. Lord have mercy won forty one twenty three.

646
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: The Heat went on a thirty two run in the

647
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: second quarter to pull away, won the franchise record.

648
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: I've never heard of.

649
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: A thirty two.

650
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: We hope they call at least three timeouts in between

651
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: that thirty timeout, like little three or four half a timeout. Crazy, Yeah,

652
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: somebody fouled, somebody shit, somebody fell out.

653
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: They was like, we're going they must have went out

654
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: the night before Hard.

655
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: We all picked Hard to have less than twenty seven

656
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: and a half points. He had eleven. We picked Kawhi

657
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: to have more than twenty three and a half points.

658
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: He had thirty six. He was locked in Norm Powell.

659
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

660
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Danny said more Paul and I said less than twenty

661
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: and a half. He had thirty Hero, everybody said more

662
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: than twenty one and a half he.

663
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Had, No, He's went two.

664
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Speaker 4: Right right over the over Hero just got I thought

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Speaker 4: he was off on that one. When I saw he

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Speaker 4: had twenty two, it was like, damn, I thought it

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Speaker 4: was like twenty three and a half or something.

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Speaker 2: Paul and I went three and four, Danny went four

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Speaker 2: and four. We're close to five. We're better than the

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Speaker 2: Bucks right now. So we're not going to command the

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Speaker 2: trade as if yet.

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Speaker 4: I said, you know, Norm is gonna go off agains

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Speaker 4: the Clippers old team.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into our picks of the night.

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Speaker 1: Our favorite part of the show, presented by Prize Picks

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Speaker 1: were gonna we have the Detroit Pistons will be playing

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Speaker 1: the beforementioned Milwauker Fuck, oh.

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Speaker 5: My god, more over for everybody, more and more.

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Speaker 1: Let's get a couple of three point picks here, more

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Speaker 1: or less than two and a half.

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00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: Three One is made for Duncan Robinson.

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Speaker 4: I'm going more.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I'm gonna go less on this one.

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Speaker 2: I'll go more.

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Speaker 5: I'll go more.

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00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: Bad teams.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be it's gonna be a numbers night for Detroit.

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Speaker 5: Bro I'm going numbers.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Bucks. Now more than one and

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00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: a half three pointers made for Miles Turner.

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Speaker 4: I'll give them more.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go less.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go less. Detroit is so switchable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they'll offensively.

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Speaker 4: You know you're gonna shoot enough of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Last Kate Cunningham more or less than twenty six and

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Speaker 1: a half points more.

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a blowout. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: go less. I'm gonna go more.

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee's wing defense is not in the right home about

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Speaker 1: no more or less than twenty nine and a half points.

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Speaker 5: I'm going less.

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Speaker 4: I'm all less as well.

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit is actually one of the few teams

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Speaker 1: that can pack the pain effectively.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go more.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more. He'll get to the free throw line.

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Speaker 3: Young guys tend to follow a lot. That's gonna be

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Speaker 3: physical game with during and these other guys. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: get to the line. I'm gonna go more.

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Speaker 4: I'm going less because I think he's checked out.

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Speaker 5: He's not that type of player. He's not that type

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Speaker 5: of player.

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Speaker 4: By the second quarter, it's gonna be trash and he's gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be like He's not gonna type of player. He is gone.

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Speaker 4: Instagram post either.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's gonna play. He's gonna play hard no

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Speaker 5: matter what.

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Speaker 1: Picking the Knight presented by Prize Picks as always uh

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Speaker 1: Lakers Sons was.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was an eye popping game.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers lost to the Suns by a lot even

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Speaker 2: left it. Left the game in the first quarter with

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Speaker 2: a grun injury.

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Speaker 5: Did not return.

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Speaker 4: He did, Huh, he didn't, He didn't left. He left

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Speaker 4: the first quarter. I don't know what was going They

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Speaker 4: beat him pretty good too, and first quarter he had

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Speaker 4: growing and came back on the bench. Second half was

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Speaker 4: dressed in street close Damn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the son's looking good. Chandler Parsons said that Lebron

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Speaker 1: stat padded to get tempoint. I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: stat pad.

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Speaker 5: Well, they were around twenty and he was still in

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 4: Reeves and they took out. They tried to make a

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Speaker 4: last one again. Yes, he was in the game longer

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Speaker 4: than he should have been, but they were trying to

741
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Speaker 4: make a push. At one point, Luke Luca was where

742
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 4: it started with the turnovers and bad size.

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Speaker 2: Like something about this bronze streak that we need to stop.

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00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: He scored eight points against the MAVs in the finals, Like,

745
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Speaker 2: this streak is fake.

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Speaker 4: They don't they don't count, but it's fake.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs, he had a game with less than ten points.

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Speaker 2: It's fair, it's crazy, it's fake. They count the game

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Speaker 2: before that.

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Speaker 4: But again, so if that's the case, he should have

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Speaker 4: fifty thousand points.

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Speaker 2: No, sure, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 4: You're five fifty thousand points.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like, when we talk about it,

756
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: it should come up like, yo, not only did he

757
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: do this in the regular season, but this is what

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00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs points wise, like he's one

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00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: of the greatest scores and playoff points.

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Speaker 4: This whole streak thing, the regular season stuff.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I remember the game where he didn't score ten points.

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Speaker 5: We remember, but that was like thirteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Saying it's not in prison.

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Speaker 5: A long still a great streak.

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Speaker 4: He might have played twelve hundred games after that, my own.

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Speaker 2: Pet peeve about it.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, guys, like, Okay, the streak was broken

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Speaker 1: before I don't I mean sure.

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Speaker 4: He might have played after that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the question is is there any

771
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: truth to that statement?

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Speaker 5: Sorry?

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 2: What was the statement that he was stat padding to

775
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: get ten points?

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Speaker 4: He's saying the Lakers are more focused on the statement

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: is the Lakers are more focused on his legacy than

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I mean that doesn't make any sense

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Speaker 5: to me.

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Speaker 4: He thinks because they allowed him to sta Pad that

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00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: they're focusing more on Lebron going out the right way than.

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Speaker 2: They they're getting their asses kicked.

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Speaker 4: Listen, let's let's let's let's slow down a second. They

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Speaker 4: won seven in a row before losing that night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I think this is absurd.

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 4: They got their ass kicked one night.

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Speaker 5: They're not.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they're getting their asses kick. Who

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: cares that Lebron chose to score ten points?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What difference did it make? Like the game was out

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Speaker 2: of reach?

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00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's equivalent to the guy

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00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: who needs one rebound, leave him in there for the

796
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: triple double, and that happens every night.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm fine with that. He left off Austin Reaves

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00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 4: in the game too to get his Not like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. Luca was the only person that

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00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: sat the whole like I think he sat the whole fourth.

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: He sat because the turnovers and the shot selection. They

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00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: try to leave those guys and get a push, and

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00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: they realized. They say, yo, get your numbers and then

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: get out.

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Speaker 2: I think it's absurd to say that the Lakers, who

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00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: are having a good season.

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Speaker 4: Good number two in the West, Luca is.

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Speaker 1: Basically putting up MV. He's playing the best ball of

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00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: VP numbers. I decided that they playing for Lebron. I

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Speaker 1: just find that to be laughable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I disagree with the statement.

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Speaker 2: It's Lucas, it's Luca Tom it's the opposite of Lebron

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00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: to right now, Yeah, we disagree, but we do got to.

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Speaker 1: Give some love to the Sons who had a shaky

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00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: start to the ball in bro but as twelve or

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Speaker 1: five ever since, Jordan Brooks, Jordan Dylan Brooks, Devin Booker,

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00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: you know the team, let's be having.

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00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: A breakout season. I think they deserve credit. Man, I

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00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: think Dylan Brooks.

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Speaker 5: Brooks got more of an offensive bag than I thought.

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Speaker 4: He's got so much.

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Speaker 5: Game is a lot better.

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00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: The crazy thing is people forget his earlier as Memphis.

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00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: He was one of the scorers. I mean shot from

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00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: three very well. There was a time where he just

826
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: didn't shoot it as well, but he scored for Memphis.

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00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: Trying to fill that gap. Since he's been.

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Speaker 4: He's more of a defensive edge guy at the time

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Speaker 4: for them. He could score at times. Yeah, but he's

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00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: he's been back into his bag. He's working some things

831
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: and it's showing.

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00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: I think he's obviously a winning player.

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Speaker 4: And they're doing without Jalen Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like.

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Speaker 4: But also I said, you gotta give a lot of

836
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: credit to Jordan. Not I didn't. We didn't know what

837
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: to think of him. We thought, you know, Phoenix was

838
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 4: just throwing it all in, like to get rid of Katie,

839
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: get rid of brad And it's like I have they're

840
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 4: actually hooping and Gillespie is hooping well like Royce O'Neill

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00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: making play. Like they got guys playing hard and making plays,

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00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: Jordan Goodwin. They have guys out of nowhere, Mark Mark

843
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 4: Williams hoop. So they're doing some good things over there.

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Speaker 2: What does that say though, Like, what is that Paul

845
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: like KD.

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00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: Bradley beial big names, big money players, guys with reputations.

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00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: KD is bona FIDE first Ballot Hall of Famer, one

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Speaker 1: of the best players in the history.

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Speaker 5: Of the league.

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Speaker 2: These guys leave the team and now they're playing like

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00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: way better.

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00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: Well, you got more guys that understand their role. You

853
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You got It's like a power

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00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: struggle when you got big names. Sometime you know, KD,

855
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: Buck and Bill who all been leading scorers in this league.

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00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, is it my team? Is it

857
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: his team? Is it my night? Is it his night?

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00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Where it's like, Okay, Devin's our guy, no debate, we

859
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: played through him. You're a shooter, you're a defender. You're

860
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: gonna get this much time. It's clear cut roles now,

861
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: and it's easier because when you look at d the season,

862
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: you can look at like a team superstar goals down

863
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: for that night and don't play, and you play a

864
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: team that's supposed to beat you and that they don't

865
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: beat you. Because the role players, it's harder to like

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: define who's gonna be the guy. It's like when I

867
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: know KD is going off, when I know him, it's

868
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: easy to scout against. They're hard to scout, right, I

869
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: know they got Booker, but then damn he did this,

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Speaker 3: He did that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some with I think it's just every big three

872
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: ain't gonna be you know, gold Bro, It ain't easy

873
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: to put it together big three and make it work.

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00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: You need a floor balance of whether it was a

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00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: rondo or somebody take less of a role. Even when

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00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: Brown was in Miami, like Chris Bosh had to take

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00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 4: a back. Even though Bron Luke and alsin making it work,

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00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 4: It's not easy. We've seen a bunch of big threes

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00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 4: not workouts, and that Big three to me, I knew

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00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: for from the jump it wasn't gonna be good because

881
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: they from I knew from the jump for the seasons.

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00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: When they got Brad before the season started, I said,

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00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: this makes no sense. The same thing when he traded

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00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: for Russ and Lakerland, I'm like, why would you do this?

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00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see that you and KG and ray Allen didn't.

886
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't a balance. They had no three points. It

887
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: was mid range with Katie and Brad and booked all

888
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: three of the mid range no point guard. And then

889
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: they try to bring Brad off the bench. He wasn't happening,

890
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is not gonna work. Same thing.

891
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: When they tried to bring Russ to l A, I'm like,

892
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna work. You can see it from them all,

893
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: every Big Three, it just ain't gonna be gold. And again,

894
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: just coaching. You gotta give credit to Jordan bro He's

895
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: coaching them all. They got them playing hard, they know

896
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: they but not every Big Three again, so you have

897
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: to have somebody that's like can be a glue or

898
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: for a general to keep it like having Rondo allowed

899
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 4: them to be. And also Ray was at a certain

900
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: time in his career where he don't need to be

901
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: all star right and make off the bounce. You know

902
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You got a balance of it. It

903
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: wasn't a bunch of guys doing the same position. Like

904
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: even though Toronto's playing.

905
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 5: Well, you have big threes that overlapping skills, but they

906
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 5: figure it out.

907
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: Yes, but it's hard.

908
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: It's a rare that it was already cooked.

909
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 5: Washed was averaging.

910
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: He wasn't watched, but he just wasn't. It was But again,

911
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 4: like when he came to Phoenix and watching, he only

912
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: played like twenty thirty.

913
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 5: Games the last time he played the average thirty.

914
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: He didn't play a lot of games he was over

915
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: the heads. I wouldn't say why your bugg your.

916
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Bugge was he just was not done since the time

917
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: he got Washington.

918
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 4: He was still solid here because that system didn't fit him,

919
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: Like he didn't fit in that that space.

920
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: You think Brad bid of twenty eighteen would have had

921
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: a hard time contributing to Phoenix last year, of course, not.

922
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: Like he would have contributed. But by the time weekends

923
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, he's done. It's like it's a long

924
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: time since he was.

925
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: Like he was averaging eighteen points on fifty one percent,

926
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: forty three splits. Oh my, that's solid, solid, fifty from

927
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: the field, forty three from three and the first year, Yeah, damn,

928
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know he did that.

929
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: He was solid. What more did you want from him?

930
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 4: K Most of those most of those nights was when

931
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 4: they didn't have full strength. It was KT was out,

932
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: was out. They didn't have many games with all three

933
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: of them together. When they did, they didn't look good.

934
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: If you watched that team, was.

935
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 5: Dann It wasn't wash.

936
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 4: It wasn't wash.

937
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: Okay, he wasn't washed. He was waiting. Stays were far

938
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: behind him.

939
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: Not that's far behind him.

940
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: Bro he was before shooting fifty from the field, had

941
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 5: a career year. He had a career year shooting good.

942
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: Talking about playing fifty, he's playing fifty.

943
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 5: Games, guys.

944
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: But this guy again again before it happened, the injuries,

945
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: that look, I just think they didn't fit. Bro.

946
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: He played games in twenty one that was the most

947
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: he had played for two years before he gets to

948
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: the Suns with it like, injuries take their toll.

949
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: On the guy's game. That's what I'm saying.

950
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was like a not useful player. Yeah,

951
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he was over the hill physically physical,

952
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and sold the injuries.

953
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: Injuries in twenty nineteen eighteen, that dude on the Suns.

954
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter what he's contributing, even with the bad

955
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: fit that all of that, he's gonna make it work

956
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: because he's he's still got it.

957
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: I still didn't think. I didn't see a championship. Just

958
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: how y'all said again, keep going back to how we

959
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 4: look at Ronald four seasons, like they have too many

960
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: the same pieces. They're playing. Well, they're winning right now,

961
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: but I just don't see you can win a championship

962
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: like that, but to.

963
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: Bring back to the Suns, right and like why things

964
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: went bad last year with all these superstars and all

965
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: these egos, and why it's going good this year.

966
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: You know, I do think Devin Booker deserves a lot

967
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: of credit because, like I definitely looked at.

968
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: My phone double double time when I saw he got

969
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: the extension that he did, because I was like, man,

970
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: the Devin Booker that I've seen since Chris Paul's been

971
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: gone doesn't merit this contract to do that was that

972
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: was playing when Chris Paul was there.

973
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: Man, He's still he was still a killer.

974
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 8: Bro.

975
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: He's the youngest best player, he's the youngest. He's still

976
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: a killer.

977
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: Now.

978
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: He killed the last two years you really believe.

979
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: Is still a killer? Bro?

980
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: He killed the last you thought he was a killer, bro,

981
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 5: averaging twenty seven.

982
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

983
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: Six killing six lost those games?

984
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 8: Bro?

985
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 4: He did his part. He did his part, Bro, He

986
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: did part.

987
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Like he was not the reason why they was struggling

988
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: forty six.

989
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: From the field, Well they did them. They made him

990
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: play the point. Sure, that's not a posicition.

991
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: He's just saying average twenty six forty six, that's not

992
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: a good that's not a good style.

993
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a bad stat that's killing. I

994
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: don't think that killing. I don't think that's killing.

995
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 7: Yo.

996
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: What's killing?

997
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: Are you?

998
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: Yo? Oh?

999
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 5: My god? That's not killing.

1000
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: The expectation is that somebody like seven is not the

1001
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: killing dominant player.

1002
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 2: You thought he had dominant results on the court last

1003
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: year for Phoenix.

1004
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 5: Why, I don't know if he was dominated, but he was.

1005
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: He was.

1006
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 5: He wasn't dominating. He was killing?

1007
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yo, half the time?

1008
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 5: Bro again sayin he was killing.

1009
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 4: Half those games. He was a king alone.

1010
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: I think for sixty million dollars a year, you should

1011
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: be dominant.

1012
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: You should. There was only three dominant players in the

1013
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: long bro.

1014
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: You have a high spe takes for a lot of people.

1015
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: There's a lot of mores, only.

1016
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 5: Three dominant players.

1017
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: Joker right now more blackful than what Devin Booker was.

1018
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: Last year he was killed saying he just wasn't and

1019
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: this year he's playing way better.

1020
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: I know a lot of guys making more the amount

1021
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 4: of money for less. That's all I'm saying.

1022
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 5: He's he's killing.

1023
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: That part of the problem. No, you know what I mean?

1024
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 4: Like that saying his money, his money has nothing to do.

1025
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: He did his job. He was on the court with

1026
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: two of the All Stars. He averaged twenty six. You

1027
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: guy that fall out right, he is the youngest and

1028
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: your best piece. You got to keep some foundation to

1029
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: be foundation. Who else you can You're not keeping Katie.

1030
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: Who's going to get rid of everybody? They're obviously doing

1031
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: something right.

1032
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: Again, we can say that now, but I'm just saying

1033
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: at the time.

1034
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 4: At the time, I said, you gotta keep keep. If

1035
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: you go to keep anybody, you got to keep. You

1036
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 4: gotta keep.

1037
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: Dominant as he has in the past for two years.

1038
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: Like the team is underwhelming.

1039
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: You don't have to be dominant undercap.

1040
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: He was.

1041
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 4: Don't have to be dominant to be when they go

1042
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 4: to the stats man. I was twenty seven. What y'all

1043
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: talking about, bro, Think about this. Think about Philly with

1044
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: Ben and Tobias. It ain't about dominance. It's about that idea.

1045
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: That was obviously the wrong move to make.

1046
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: They couldn't keep Ben Tobias, like guys were horrible deals.

1047
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: It was we were not on in the East next year.

1048
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? Should have went to Easter

1049
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: Coms finals. Okay, okay, It wasn't a bad deal.

1050
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: Bros.

1051
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: Philadelphia, saying if they had the shoal, if they had

1052
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: the option, they would take those deals back. If they

1053
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 4: had the option to keep Jimmy, which they couldn't fucking do,

1054
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: they would have. It's who you can keep in that

1055
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: market at the time. The best pieces we can keep

1056
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: is ben In Tobias. We max Tobias because we couldn't

1057
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: keep Jimmy and j J. They left.

1058
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 9: Hmm.

1059
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: I don't think it was like they're doing all. We're

1060
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: kicking them out. They couldn't keep them. So guess what

1061
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: the Marcus says, I gotta pay Tobias this money people

1062
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 4: keep them, I gotta pay.

1063
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: I think people say choice.

1064
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: Jimmy chose to go to fucking Miami. JA chose to

1065
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 4: get back somewhere else.

1066
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: I think we're talking about made to pay these other

1067
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: guys and not Jimmy.

1068
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: No, I don't doubt we could.

1069
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 5: I mean that.

1070
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: I beg to differ. I think Jimmy said, I'm getting

1071
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 4: out here. I don't know Brett Brown, I'm going to Miami.

1072
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: Sure.

1073
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: I think j J wanted a twenty million a year

1074
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: again and they said we're not doing it. So he

1075
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: went to New Orleans, but they gave him back and

1076
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: he said, all right, well we got to keep the

1077
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: guys we have. So they paid Tobias and Best.

1078
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: I understand that, but were those deals smart deals to

1079
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 2: make at the time.

1080
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: We're gonna get better at at those positions? Then was

1081
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 4: an all star Tobias them all star. They were top

1082
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 4: in the East for the next two three years. Yeah, yeah,

1083
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: you're winning.

1084
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: Those guys, So lose them or lose them overrated.

1085
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 4: And lose them and get seventy.

1086
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: Overrated And was use movie It was washed? He was

1087
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 5: over the.

1088
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: Explain the difference when you start to find another be

1089
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: to out there, you're not gonna find them.

1090
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: You're at the top, when you're over the peak, over

1091
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: the hill, the bottom. So when are you washed when

1092
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: you're back at the when the bottom wash?

1093
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1094
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: It wasn't again, I'm not saying I can't find At

1095
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: the time, I'm like.

1096
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, Phoenix is completely cooked. Now they paid Devin Booker.

1097
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 4: I'm just like, you're gonna find better.

1098
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: And with Phoenix they did so much to ruin their

1099
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: the sort of financial future.

1100
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: In the draft capital there was sort of a like

1101
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: we have no other choice. I think to me, it

1102
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: was just like man book plays like.

1103
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: I don't even think this is he's just playing way

1104
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: better this year than he did the last two years.

1105
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: Part of his I have no I don't even think

1106
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: it's not even the difference. Look at the numbers, it's

1107
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: not the big of a difference.

1108
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: Bro, I don't think he's looking at points per game

1109
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: like maybe that's coaching.

1110
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 5: Maybe this coaching.

1111
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not maybe his coaching, it's a combination of

1112
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: alluminating this year, he's.

1113
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: A way more well rounded player because maybe the.

1114
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: Systems better, better better, Yeah, better system, better pieces that

1115
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: fit him.

1116
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure you could say that that's that's that's fair.

1117
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's way better this.

1118
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: Year than he's been less, shooting less this year than

1119
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: he did last year.

1120
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: He's having more of an impact on the game though.

1121
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 4: His field goal percentage is less and his three point

1122
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: percentage is less and less assist.

1123
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: So why are they so much better?

1124
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: Better pieces?

1125
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 5: There's no there's no egos et factor in the winning

1126
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 5: though Brad was not a good.

1127
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: Fin for that team, so it's just equation.

1128
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: Devin Booker is doing what Devin Booker has always been doing,

1129
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: is what you said.

1130
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: Look at the numbers, and it's been in addition, but

1131
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: it's pretty consistent.

1132
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 5: I think.

1133
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: So it's pretty consistent.

1134
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: I got you. I see things.

1135
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: Look at the numbers, bro from from eighteen up, twenty five,

1136
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty six, twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,

1137
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: twenty seven, twenty six, twenty five. He's the most consistent

1138
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: fucking guy I've seen looking at the numbers and over

1139
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 4: a ten year span. Yeah, with god damn, who's more

1140
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: consistent than that?

1141
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: Like, just looking at a point per game average doesn't

1142
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: tell even the numbers.

1143
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Look at the secontributing to winning though, you know what

1144
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Like there's an ecosystem that these numbers happening,

1145
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: and you can average a bunch of points sure and

1146
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: be doing dick like me.

1147
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: Takes five guys to win basketball basketballs again, you talk

1148
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: about Yan it takes five.

1149
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: The Loans. They have the worst fourth quarter our offense

1150
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA last year, and you're telling me, Devin Booker, I.

1151
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 4: Don't think that's killing. I think Minnesota, Minnesota.

1152
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: You're telling me they're the worst.

1153
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: Crunch time, No, that was Minnesota. Definitely Minnesota Okay, fourth

1154
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: quarters throwing out there, Okay, quarter scoring.

1155
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: They have the worst fourth quarter offense in the NBA

1156
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: last year, and y'all telling me Devin Booker killed last year.

1157
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: That don't make no sense to me.

1158
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: Guys, So you can't you can't kill, you can't for offense,

1159
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: and you're leading the worst fourth quarter off guys, that

1160
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 4: just system is not scoring enough in the fourth. You're

1161
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: not killing, that's what you're telling me.

1162
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: Yes, wild how are you killing if your team is

1163
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: that bad because they're not passing?

1164
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: Because you can still kill not be a good team.

1165
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: You can still kill and not have a good team.

1166
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: That is two things to be.

1167
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Sure to agree to disagree.

1168
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: I think that's just not that good. Hold on time out, bro,

1169
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: Could we not go to a terrible team? If somebody's

1170
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: killing and say and.

1171
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: Killing, so LaMelo ball, he's killing.

1172
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 5: He's killing.

1173
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: Sure, he was killing, he's killing.

1174
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: Now he's killing.

1175
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 4: Last LaMelo was getting thirty five thirty point triple double.

1176
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 5: Listen, you gotta understand now, Listen. I guess his team

1177
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 5: is not killing, but he is.

1178
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: So you can't tell me he's not he's killing.

1179
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: What good is that though? What does that mean? It

1180
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: feels meaningless, like if like, all right, let me ask

1181
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: you this.

1182
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this.

1183
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: If LaMelo right now team was like fifteen and five

1184
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 3: and he's averaging eighteen, is he killing?

1185
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: Yes?

1186
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 4: Your math is crazy. You have shot player. If you're

1187
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 4: the best, you got girl mouth going right. I saved

1188
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: the bunny money. I only spent two thousand thirty nigga

1189
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 4: thirty story.

1190
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 7: If you're if you're if you're on a five and

1191
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 7: fifteen team and you're averaging twenty five, you're not killing

1192
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 7: more than the guys averaging eighteen.

1193
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Who's leading the way for that team to win that much?

1194
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: Who says the way?

1195
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: Five team?

1196
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: Who says he's leading the way? Eighteen? Guy age eighteen

1197
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 4: is leading the way?

1198
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: He just pointing.

1199
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: That sounds like a good role player. That sounds like Bobby.

1200
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: Porter No, because like if he's ever if he's leading

1201
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: the team in scoring at eighteen.

1202
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 4: There's no man on their team that was back. There's

1203
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: no team today with somebodys leading the team today does

1204
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 4: not have me thirty. Let's be realistic here for twenty seven,

1205
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 4: Let's on their teams that were going to the fire

1206
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: were twenty years later killing even without averaging thirty's the

1207
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: game you can killed? Why we are in twenty twenty

1208
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 4: five now there's nobody leading the team in nineteen points

1209
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 4: a game. Sure, so let's be realistic here.

1210
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: But if you're killing on a bad team, you're not killing.

1211
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: This is my opinion.

1212
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: He makes the All Star team, you're killing.

1213
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: That's not there's a lot of girl math that's crazy,

1214
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: Like you can't be a good player because you're on

1215
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: a shitty team.

1216
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: Team.

1217
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 4: That's basically saying the players can kill.

1218
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I didn't say that you're not having some killer season, bro,

1219
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: if you can have it and you'd be elevating the

1220
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: play of your team.

1221
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: Is Ryan Ronin's haveing kill season right now?

1222
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: For Ryan Rollin's standards, sure.

1223
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: Was having that same say, you're contradicting yourself. He's on

1224
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 4: a shitty team. They're not winning. He is killing on

1225
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 4: a bum team.

1226
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: We're talking about a sixty million dollar player and a

1227
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: dude that barely.

1228
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: Bouncing around the NBA. So his contract what you mulda

1229
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: call it?

1230
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: You can't make those comparisons like you're matters. So your

1231
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: best players have the most responsibility. So when you win,

1232
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: we give you all the glory.

1233
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: So you. You gotta take responsibility, bro, But.

1234
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 5: You still can be killing.

1235
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 4: You can still be killing. I don't understand that when the.

1236
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: Team wins, we say deep Book is a god. When

1237
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: they suck, Oh no, he's still like that. Don't make

1238
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: no sense.

1239
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 5: The Celtics are two games over five. Is Jalen Brown killing?

1240
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely? There was no expectations for that team, bro,

1241
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: Why not you know Celtics nothing?

1242
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 9: Jayalen Brown is willing. He's winning a team that's winning

1243
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 9: with no expectations whatsoever. But you want to tell me

1244
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 9: a team that's completely underachieving as a guy that's.

1245
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: Killing on it.

1246
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 5: LaMelo Ball is killing. I don't care what he is

1247
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 5: a killer.

1248
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: We gotta we gotta agree to this girl. Yeah, I

1249
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: think you could definitely kill on a bad team. I

1250
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 4: don't care what the money you are. You make seventy million,

1251
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 4: you can still kill. That's it.

1252
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Don't matter what money you make on a lottery team.

1253
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: You could be killing what.

1254
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 4: Team you Yeah, you can killing any fucking team. You

1255
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 4: can kill killing adult league right now, But you're talking

1256
00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: about forty and over. I'm killing talking about don't matter

1257
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 4: what team or league with money you makes? Killing matter?

1258
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: It does it does matters, but you still kill whether

1259
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: you want to lose.

1260
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: He's so, killing doesn't influence how you you got season bron.

1261
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 4: Killing the finals? You bron killing the finals? The bron

1262
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: killing the finals?

1263
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 2: What finals?

1264
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: The ones they lost?

1265
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: He killed?

1266
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: Wait?

1267
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 5: What No, that's not the same thing. That's not the

1268
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 5: same thing.

1269
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: The team to the.

1270
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: Finals and being I'm just giving you an analogy. I'm saying.

1271
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: You're saying you can't kill while you're losing. That's all

1272
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: you said.

1273
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: You on a losing team, saying you're on a losing

1274
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: team a team that wins.

1275
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 5: So Trey Young is not killing, No, he's killing, killing,

1276
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 5: not killing? Right now? Is James Harden killing right now?

1277
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 4: How many examples want to give him?

1278
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: His words? Killing right now?

1279
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 7: Bro?

1280
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: He had fifty five on the days, thirty seven years old.

1281
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: James Hardening is playing better than we expected to play?

1282
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: Is he killing? Conversation the way we do?

1283
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: The only person saying these guys are not killing.

1284
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: Damn Okay, winning is meaningless to killing.

1285
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: You could do less.

1286
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: You could do less on a winning team and be killing.

1287
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's just the thing like

1288
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: you look at looking crazy.

1289
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the players we give the most glory to.

1290
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about everybody else. I'm talking about the

1291
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: guys that get the most. We should expect the most.

1292
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: We should grave them the harshest they get the most.

1293
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: All right, next topic, Celtics when they beat the Knicks

1294
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: in spite of a crazy rally in the fourth led

1295
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: by call Anthony Towns and Miles.

1296
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: Bridges.

1297
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I know, that's not what I was

1298
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: supposed to be. Back from the top. Celtics got a

1299
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: big win.

1300
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: They beat the Knicks in spite of a crazy rally

1301
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: in the four fled by Karl Anthony Towns and Michale Bridges.

1302
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown dropped forty two. It's like they couldn't do

1303
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: anything with him. The Celtics are.

1304
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: Now twelve and nine.

1305
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown has proven that he's more than a capable

1306
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: number one option, averaging twenty eight six and four in

1307
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: the absence to Jason Tatum.

1308
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: When JT comes back to JB twenty eight.

1309
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: Six and four, I couldn't see. That's pretty good numbers, man,

1310
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: that's really good numbers.

1311
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I wonder I don't think JB's

1312
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: role needs to change.

1313
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't think they ever had set roll one B.

1314
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 4: Whoever had to go in that night. It wasn't like YO,

1315
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: your second option. It was whoever had it going at night,

1316
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1317
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: So this is the thing.

1318
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: When you got two superstar there has to be an understanding,

1319
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: like y'all both can't be like in a power struggle

1320
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: for who's the main guy, you know, And since the Celtics,

1321
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: over the last decade they've been together, it's been JT

1322
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: that got all depressed and the linlight more than j

1323
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: But we all knew Jaylen Brown was capable of doing this.

1324
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: But somebody something has to give, you know, Like when

1325
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: when I came on the team with Antoine Walker, we

1326
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: both could score. Antoine was an All Star, he was

1327
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 3: leading the team in scoring. But like we couldn't both

1328
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 3: have a power struggle. It got to be like, all right,

1329
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 3: you the guy, I'll take second fiddle. Now when JT

1330
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: comes back, what happens. That's a tough one because who's

1331
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: to say JT is gonna be as more as explosive

1332
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 3: as he was before the Achilles. Who's maybe he needed

1333
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: to take a back seat, but who knows. I think

1334
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to feel each other out see how goes.

1335
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: But right now it's Jaylen Brown.

1336
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 4: I don't think. I think JT, even though he's ahead

1337
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 4: of schedule, don't even come back this year.

1338
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 5: But even then, when he comes back, they about to

1339
01:00:59,040 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: be together the next three.

1340
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 4: For you, they come back next year, I think they

1341
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 4: don't miss a beat. They come back to being Boston

1342
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: and they gonna both be doing what they do or

1343
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 4: as a group. Peyton Pittrick bat Like doing well, Derek

1344
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: White doing well. Now you got to find some bigs.

1345
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you have Kada, Luca Garza, Tillman Like. They're serviceable,

1346
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 4: but you need more from that position. But you put

1347
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 4: yourself right back in contention. You got those guys you're playing.

1348
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: That's high powered offense, that one of the highest scoring

1349
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 4: offenses in the league right now, and they are staying afloat.

1350
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 4: They're winning some games. So they've proven that they're capable

1351
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 4: with whatever group as long as you keep that foundation together.

1352
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to me, Jalen Brown kind of proved

1353
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: himself in the finals where you know, the guy want MVP.

1354
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: I think what some people would say is that most

1355
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: teams were still sending their primary defender.

1356
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: At JT, and so JT ha had a you.

1357
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 5: Know, a bit of a bigger burden.

1358
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: And I think most people would say that JT is

1359
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: like clearly better than Jalen Brown, oh.

1360
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 4: More skilled, more talented.

1361
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: Sure, but I think I don't know how you argue

1362
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: with what he's doing right now.

1363
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: Like he's drawing like he is the scouting report, you know,

1364
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: for any team that's trying to defend Boston right now,

1365
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: and he's delivering it like you know, the game against

1366
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: the Knicks specifically, they threw a bunch of stuff at him, and.

1367
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: I think he did a good job of you know,

1368
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: trying to draw switches and all this other stuff, but like.

1369
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 4: Putting what like Brunton, and I think it help.

1370
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: Even Josh Hart is a little bit too short to

1371
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: guard him and stuff like that.

1372
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 4: He's also coming off like some injuries that I don't

1373
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: know if he's fully like back to old Josh Hart,

1374
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 4: I mean having og with help. Yeah, so Nicks can

1375
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: throw different bodies at him, but he's still regardless of

1376
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 4: who he's gonna find a switch or even if they

1377
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: don't get the switch, he's good enough to get to

1378
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 4: his spots and knock down shots like that's just who

1379
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: he is.

1380
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in another thing, I think there's something

1381
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: different to you know, when JT's this, like he could

1382
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: come into games not thinking, oh, it's on me to

1383
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: do to generate everything.

1384
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: I think he ever had to even before because they

1385
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 4: had Drew, they had Christaps. Even though Christaps in and out,

1386
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 4: he had Horford, he could do him. But he also like,

1387
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 4: if I get double, I could find a guy, it's

1388
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 4: gonna end up back to me at some point, Like

1389
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna get shots and they got a defense has

1390
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: to be honest or like stay honest somewhat to where

1391
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to guard those guys just as much too.

1392
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: So but now he just comes into every game like no,

1393
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: I gotta get out and kill people, like straight up,

1394
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: and he's doing it.

1395
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like it's my show right now. So he's.

1396
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: So shouts to the Celtics for you know, they're playing

1397
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: a lot better than I thought they would.

1398
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: Full disclosure. I thought they'd be terrible this season.

1399
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 4: I didn't think they'd be bad.

1400
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: I thought they'd be terrible. I thought they would like

1401
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: rest a lot of guys.

1402
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 4: Like I thought Milwaukee would be bad. I didn't think.

1403
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 5: I just thought they wouldn't be contender.

1404
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: I thought they would still be a playoff.

1405
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 5: I thought they playoff.

1406
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: I just hated the center rotation.

1407
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 5: But you know they like shout out to coach Missoula.

1408
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: I was just like, do they even want to win this?

1409
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1410
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 4: Because they trade it?

1411
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Just can't like every every time I looked out like yeah, Cordn,

1412
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: that is going, I'm like, damn, do they want to

1413
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: try to win next area? But like they're doing it, man,

1414
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: shots at the institutional knowledge, Like you said, shot to

1415
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: coach Missoula. They're doing a great job. Happy to be

1416
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: wrong about that. Another thing I saw on social media

1417
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: recently was an interview with Lebron postgame talking about NICOLEA.

1418
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Jokic and his dominance, and Bron said recently that jo Kic,

1419
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, sorry, I think this is from his podcast.

1420
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: It was from his podcast Sorry mind the Game if

1421
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: you guys are not watching excellent podcast with Steve.

1422
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1423
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: He said that Jokic is quote the most dominant and

1424
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: complete offensive player he's ever played against.

1425
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: Uh do you guys agree?

1426
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

1427
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: Yo, man, I would agree to.

1428
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 4: I'm like thinking about like this you can go with

1429
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: guards like maybe Luca, but like he's a big he

1430
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 4: can score looking inside out too, but he's a big

1431
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 4: inside out shoot threes passed like and I'm thinking, like

1432
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 4: who can catch him? Maybe Wemby, but Wemby, I don't

1433
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 4: think we'll ever be able to pass like him.

1434
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 5: Well, it's not about the ability, it's the dominance. The ability. Yeah,

1435
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 5: everybody can do all of those things, but he's dominating it.

1436
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, he's a great It's.

1437
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 4: Not even like he's he's a great passer, great shooter,

1438
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 4: great great the floor, like there's nobody else.

1439
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: Offensively is because like even with Joel when he was

1440
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: having his incredible season, Yeah, he's not the deserve it.

1441
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: He's just not the passer.

1442
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's been times wh like team send

1443
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: a hard double to him and like them the ends

1444
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: an eternalver or whatever like That's that's a clearly identifiable

1445
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: weakness of Joel's offense.

1446
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 4: He's gotten better at it, but he could be. He

1447
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: could be good at it, but he'll never be. Yeah,

1448
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 4: he won't be dominant at But just like.

1449
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: You can't leave him open for second, you can't send

1450
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: two God forbid, you send a triple and like a

1451
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys I think in the past, you know,

1452
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: even somebody like a Chris Paul, some of our great passers.

1453
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: People to have great floor vision.

1454
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: When you're six to two, it's harder to get those

1455
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: passes off at certain angles against the best.

1456
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: Defense because you can't do you six to yo kich

1457
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: is seven foot with that vision.

1458
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: Again, only person I think about that, Luca. But he's

1459
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 4: a guard I'm saying, like he has, he's able to

1460
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: get the vision, he's able to pass. He's a very

1461
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 4: good pass he's a very good score and rebounder. I

1462
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: think it's rebounding wise, offensive, rebounding, tipping. And he's a

1463
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 4: big so more little post action like his.

1464
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: From in close, like if he gets the shot off,

1465
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: it feels.

1466
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 4: Like both of them anytime you put it, they put

1467
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 4: it up in the airs like they have a it's

1468
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: like yea even from half court, he shoes from half

1469
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: court balked up, there's nothing. Yeah, he's he's a special play.

1470
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we agree with going for fifty five live and

1471
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: I was like, this is unreal. Made it look easy. Yeah,

1472
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: so you know I have to agree with that.

1473
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: More arguments on the Internet Phil Jackson recently in an interview.

1474
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, this is what we didn't get to

1475
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 4: this one last time.

1476
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: Wait he was he was coaching the Bulls at this time.

1477
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, give us, give us because this is where he

1478
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 4: can go into is uh you know, tell us about

1479
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: the difference between Scotty and Mike.

1480
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was.

1481
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: Come on, Danny, you said that MJ was a huge inspiration,

1482
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: do you guys growing up? Of course, after our bag

1483
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: talk conversation, so many people got riled up, and we

1484
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: want to get you guys opinion on this Phil Jackson

1485
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: clip from a long time ago, go back when he

1486
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: was coaching the Chicago Bulls.

1487
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 8: Shordan, he's bigger than Yeah. But see, Scotty is such

1488
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 8: an unselfish player. He's the greatest all around player in

1489
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 8: the NBA right now. And really, oh he's absolutely terrific.

1490
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 8: People would get a chance to watch him every night.

1491
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 8: But I mean compared to Michael, Michael's a terrific player.

1492
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 8: And I'm not telling anything about that away from Michael,

1493
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,839
Speaker 8: but Scotty is a rebounder, as a passer, as a defender,

1494
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 8: and as you know, the whole complete package and the

1495
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 8: great energy that he can have on the court, does

1496
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 8: a lot of things out there in the basketball court

1497
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 8: that is terrific. And he can lead a team very well,

1498
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 8: and he can get ten twelve points and ten assists

1499
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 8: and ten rebounds and really be the determining factor. Now, Michael,

1500
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 8: no one can score like Michael, and scoring is a

1501
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 8: wonderful thing to do, but it's not the end all

1502
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 8: end all. It takes a lot of guys. In that

1503
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 8: combination of Pippo and Jordan's the amazing.

1504
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: You see the Jeff and all the comments. I mean,

1505
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 4: you played against Mike and Scotty, right, you got a

1506
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: chance to see him both.

1507
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm never gonna argue with a guy

1508
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: that watched these guys ever, coach, Like, how do we

1509
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: sell Phiel?

1510
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 5: No, that's not true. He was there every day. He

1511
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 5: was there every damn.

1512
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 3: Day, and I see where he's coming from. Obviously, Mike

1513
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: was a better score hands down. But was Scotty a

1514
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: better defender? One could argue that because, yeah, one can

1515
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: argue that was he a better rebounder? His length, athleticism,

1516
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: his arms, One could argue that too. Was he a

1517
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: better passer?

1518
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 5: Well?

1519
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 3: He did play point guard for all the championship teams.

1520
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 3: So when you look at it across the board, I

1521
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: see what Phil is talking about, and I don't disagree

1522
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: with him because he saw him.

1523
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 5: Every single day.

1524
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 3: And you know, when you look at the year Jordan

1525
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 3: was out Scotty I think finished like second in the m.

1526
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: V P of I was thinking that he might have

1527
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 4: said this during the year Mike took off. Was that

1528
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 4: during that year when when Scotty and.

1529
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 5: The one All Star Game MVP. I believe the year

1530
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 5: Jordan tried to win that game.

1531
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually they actually played. Yeah, but so that was

1532
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 4: it they I'm thinking, that's your Mike's They still want

1533
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: to playoffs even though Mike they won.

1534
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 5: Like sixty games. I think they won sixty games fifty

1535
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 5: fifth games Nicks.

1536
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: That was the year the Knicks went to the finals.

1537
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 4: And okay, yeah, but no, I mean brou again, I

1538
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 4: get all the heat because I'm the Carolina guy. If

1539
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 4: I say anything that's remotely criticism, like critical of Mike,

1540
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm not criticizing Mike at all. And me saying Michael

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01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 4: I got lomped inside. I never said he didn't have

1542
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: a bag, said he didn't have to have to use

1543
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 4: his bag, which is a high a Q player was smart. Again,

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 4: there's a lot of not a lot of players. There's

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 4: some players that are better all around players than Mike,

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01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 4: but I'm still not taking them over Mike. Like Mike

1547
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 4: is the goat to me, but Lebron better round all

1548
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 4: around player. But Mike just had a mindset and the

1549
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 4: killer instinct that most people year and would never take

1550
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 4: anybody over him because of that. But yeah, Scotty, I

1551
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 4: think Scotty was a great said, I not a chance.

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 4: I never got a chance to play with them or

1553
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 4: watch them as an adult or live. So when he

1554
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 4: has his takes, I respect his opinion because he's seen

1555
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 4: it up close. Like my perspective or vision of some

1556
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 4: of these guys, like I had him on a pedestal.

1557
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: Like again, I thought Jason Wings white Choc that was

1558
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: like one of the best point cards ever because he

1559
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 4: could do while ship when you get adult, some guys,

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, he was cool. You know, he was a

1561
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 4: risky player, you know, so like it's different and a

1562
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: lot of these fans online they want to tell you

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: how to have your opinion. You're not You're stupid, because like,

1564
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 4: come on, this guy played against the guys, y'all was

1565
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 4: Cilly's hell for not taking his opinion into account. Again,

1566
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 4: not taking Phil's opinion into account.

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: Always take phills like zim masters stuff into account when

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01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: he's saying stuff and it's.

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 4: Doing it for reason to like get Mike Routh or

1570
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 4: like what it's for reasons.

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: It's a chess movie, like all the things we talk about,

1572
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: getting his getting rebounds, guarding excellent wing players.

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: If that was Mike's only job and he didn't have

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 2: to score thirty, he'd go out and do it yea,

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: at a high level for sure. So that's why I'm

1576
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 2: just like, get out of here.

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01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you again. I think Mike was a

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01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 4: really good like he was really good at all those categories.

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01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 4: I think he probably took lesser of a role doing

1580
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 4: those things when he had to score. And he also

1581
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 4: got Ron Harper and got Rodan was getting those guys

1582
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: playing those roles so he didn't.

1583
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 5: Have to do that.

1584
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: I think Scotty was being hell trying to score thirty

1585
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: to a game, though we can acknowledge that may and

1586
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: I think that would be tougher.

1587
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: When Phil is saying this is like to me, it's

1588
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: like if we say, yo, Mike, your job now is

1589
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: to do what Scotty does.

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 4: I think I also think. I think. I also think

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 4: Bill is smart and managing the egos. I think he's

1592
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 4: probably doing that to like either the boot Scottie up

1593
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 4: or make Mike madd You knows that Michael players best

1594
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 4: when he's mad, and Scotty might play better when he's

1595
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 4: that to.

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: Kobe and the press. You know what I'm saying, that's

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: that's the field special.

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said those things when he retires, so he

1599
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: was trying to get Jordan to come back.

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: Prove me wrong. You know what I'm saying, put me wrong.

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 5: That's so good.

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna close on that.

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