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Speaker 1: Hello, Chip oh la, oh right, because you're in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. Last week we did our words and

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Speaker 1: you were like, I'm going to be nestled in home,

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Speaker 2: And then it snowed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's snowed and you're like, peak out,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Mexico. Oh by, what are you doing

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Speaker 2: I'm here for a festival.

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Speaker 3: Els playing the annual crash My Plaia Festival. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: came down for that. She's playing tonight, coming back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But we're recording this on Wednesday. Just for those of

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Speaker 3: you who think we're live.

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Speaker 1: I don't really think anyone cares or knows, but thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for learning the listeners. So Chips in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: We are here actually though this this week, you're being

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Speaker 1: Alexander Alexandra Sowah. I think that's how you pronounce her

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Speaker 1: last name. She wrote this book called the Ozembic Revolution.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to that podcast, it was very interesting.

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Speaker 1: She's very informative, and I was telling you who you

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Speaker 1: are an Ozembic user. We talked about you a lot

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Speaker 1: because one of my big things in life is like,

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Speaker 1: And so seeing this rise of ozimpic as this weight

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Speaker 1: How is this long lasting? How is this actually getting

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Speaker 1: then also she puts together this whole like program and

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Speaker 1: incorporating all of it. So we had a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out. But obviously on Fridays, we you know,

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Speaker 1: know you so well, but it's like there's a confidence,

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00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: there's an energy, there's you feel comfortable in your own

438
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: skin kind of so when you walk in a room,

439
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: it's it's very different, it is, and so like, oh

440
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: my god, whoa, you look great or like so maybe

441
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: you can even say like you look like you're feeling

442
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: you're like feeling good in your skin.

443
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, something like that.

444
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:56,479
Speaker 1: Okay, we've kind of mentioned a couple of the things

445
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: about talking about weight loss and also like just my

446
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: new understanding of obesity after having a conversation with doctor SOA,

447
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: because I just didn't understand and I know that sounds

448
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: very ignorant, but I think we all have these things.

449
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: The more she talked about it, I was like, this

450
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: is no different from any sort of addiction or not

451
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: paying attention to what we're doing in our culture, like

452
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of just going through the motions of life without

453
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: being really present and aware with ourselves. And so to me,

454
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: it's like very applicable to very like a lot of

455
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: things that a lot of people can probably relate to,

456
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: even if they don't relate to obesity. But it is

457
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: more than just willpower. And you kind of touched on

458
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: this a little bit with like the driving past McDonald's,

459
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: So like when you are talking about those kind of circumstances,

460
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: can you help people who might not fully understand what

461
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: that's like? It's is it like another addiction.

462
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: Of well, I mean you have to think about there's

463
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: so many factors that affect how we think about food.

464
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: Where there's advertising, which we're constantly being advertised, especially things

465
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: like fast food and snacks, there's also food manufacturing and

466
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: food I mean manufacturing, not even just growth, like when

467
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: you think about all the chemicals that they're putting into

468
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 3: foods just to taste certain ways. I read yesterday that

469
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: the US is about to ban red number five.

470
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: They are going to do it. I've read they were

471
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: in talks for that. But that's great. That's one.

472
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was banned for in nineteen ninety for

473
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: a minute and then they pulled it back. But yeah,

474
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: it sounds like the FDA is moving forward to remove it.

475
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's just so many factors. And then also

476
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: on the flip side of it, like everyone's super attractive

477
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: and modeling and everyone's then so there's like an ideal

478
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: that has put out into the world that just creates

479
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: more shame, which then drives you to your comfort, which

480
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: is probably food, and it's a self fuelling prophecy. I

481
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: think in terms of just straight up OBC too, is

482
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: like when you think about how our media portrays it too,

483
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: it is about being fat versus skinny, and there's no

484
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: mental there's no mental part of it being addressed. So

485
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: it's like when you think of shows like My six

486
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: hundred Pound Life, it's kind of like just putting obesity

487
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: like front and center, and they're not like talking about

488
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: the real issues deeply because they're just trying to make

489
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: good television.

490
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: Even unlike the biggest loser.

491
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: It was just like about how much weight you lost,

492
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: and it wasn't about how much you changed. And I

493
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: don't know, Like, look, I don't produce television shows, and

494
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 3: I know that the whole goal is to make entertainment,

495
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: but I don't think it necessarily helped because it wasn't giving.

496
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: And I've read that a lot of the people that

497
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: participated on that show ended up gaining their way back

498
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 3: because they were just being starved and working out too

499
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: much and it wasn't a full reset.

500
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: Really answering the question properly.

501
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: But I to get back to your question about like

502
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: the McDonald's.

503
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: It is it is just.

504
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: When you think about food all the time, not only

505
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: are you thinking about eating it, but if you recognize,

506
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: like I have had the conversation with myself more times

507
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: than I could probably count, Like when I have a

508
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: moment like that, like chip.

509
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: You don't need a milkshake?

510
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I really want one, But you don't need one, Okay,

511
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: I know I don't need it.

512
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm just I talk.

513
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: I can talk myself out of it sometimes and sometimes

514
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: I can't. And it really it is having a devil

515
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: on your shoulder. And so there is. It's not just

516
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: a physical manifestation. There is a whole mental piece to

517
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: it too. And when you think about the fact that

518
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: bad foods are cheaper for you than healthy foods, and

519
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: the idea of convenience is so important for work. I mean,

520
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: we now live in a society where most households have

521
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: two working parents. So coming home and making a really

522
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: quick dinner for your family of four, five, six, however

523
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: many kids you have, it's a lot on a parent

524
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: to have to do that. And let's not even get

525
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: started with single family, single parent homes, like that's even

526
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: more challenging. And when you can feed a family cheaper

527
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: at McDonald's and you can go into the grocery store,

528
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: what are you going to choose if you're a broke

529
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: single mom or single dad. So it's the system is

530
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: broken and not really designed for us to be healthy.

531
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: And then you have to think about the rewards to

532
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: the medical system. To me, the fact that this miracle

533
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: drug that now exists that we've all been dreaming of

534
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: is not covered by most insurance. I mean, it's covered

535
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: if you've got diabetes, they'll cover it. But if you're

536
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: just fat and want to get skinny it doesn't cover it.

537
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, that makes me scratch my head because I like,

538
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: obesity is the root CAUs to so many other healthy.

539
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Day diabetes one of them.

540
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then's disease, all of the things.

541
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Why that it should be the first thing that insurance

542
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: companies are covering so that they're not having to cover

543
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: all of the other shit that.

544
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Comes with being overweight?

545
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 3: But does the medical industry really want people to be

546
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: healthy because then you have less people coming in for shit.

547
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's the conspiracy theorist in me. But

548
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: why the fuck isn't it covered right?

549
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that's These are the questions

550
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I think we're all asking as a society as a whole,

551
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: and I think that they're good questions. I think the

552
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: conversation about food and all of the stuff you're mentioning

553
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: changing is also a really good conversation. And like you said,

554
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: this was like a really good jump start for you.

555
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: And it's like what doctor Soa told me, where it's like,

556
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: you can't treat a disease with prevention. You have to

557
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: treat a disease with treatment and then incorporate prevention. So

558
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: to me, it's a bit it's a whole picture kind

559
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: of thing, and it's a whole circle and it's very

560
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: interesting to hear about someone's personal journey with it. So

561
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you, and none of the listeners appreciate

562
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: you being so open about that.

563
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: And one other quick thing I want to add, because

564
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: I did I, you know, in full disclosure, I also

565
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: hired I've got a trainer named Will who is It's

566
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: everything's done through an app and online and text, so

567
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: I've never even met him face to face other than

568
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: on zoom. He's in Las Vegas, and that has been

569
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: a game changer to me. And I'll admit, like the

570
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: hardest part of it all has been getting my food

571
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: right because I didn't grow up in a household where

572
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: we never had salad for dinner as a side yea

573
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: or like a big sat like I mean, we ate good,

574
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 3: and I think my mom thought she was being as

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: healthy as possible, but there was cheese on our broccoli,

576
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: you know, like it was a very American style diet,

577
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: and I never really learned how to cook. It's been

578
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: so it's been the most that has been the most

579
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: challenging part, and for twenty twenty five is kind of

580
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: like I feel like I've gotten I'm committed to working out,

581
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: I'm committed to eating better, but the eating and cooking

582
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: and that portion is really what I want to focus

583
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: on this year, because, like they say, abs are.

584
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: Made in the kitchen, not in the gym.

585
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: It's so to you cannot do enough setups to outwork

586
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: a bad diet. So and I feel like I've kind

587
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: of hit a wall with my weight loss, and so

588
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: I know that that is the one piece of the

589
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: puzzle that I have to dial in this year, and

590
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to be exactly where i want to be

591
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: by the time I'm fifty.

592
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's my yeah, yeah.

593
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do take that for granted too. I was

594
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: telling you before the podcast, like I grew up both

595
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: of my parents were athletes, you know, they ran. My

596
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: mom was like a marathon runner, and so they ate

597
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: very well. Like my dad was a football player at LSU.

598
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: Like I just grew up with that, and so I

599
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: don't know any different. But I've realized how lucky it

600
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: is now. And that's what she was telling me on

601
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: the podcast, Like you literally there's only very few people

602
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: that could survive the changes in our culture that started

603
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: in the eighties when I was born, so basically my

604
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: whole life, my parents did such a good job of

605
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: teaching me still how to eat clean, what our body

606
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: needs as fuel. And then I was an athlete and

607
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: so I needed that and I was always very active.

608
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: So it's just like all these components that I never

609
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: have thought about that have really helped me to stay

610
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: healthy in this world. But our world is not set

611
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: up to teach that, Like why are we not teaching

612
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: that stuff? It kills me. I don't understand.

613
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: Mean, I look back at my childhood and like sweets

614
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: and shit were a reward, like bad foods were rewards

615
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: for me of course, And really it's such a healthy

616
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: way to think about food, like we only need food

617
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: to survive. It is a fuel, it's fuel for our body.

618
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: And the way that we've sort of turned it into

619
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: a reward. And I see my friends with kids, it's like,

620
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: just to shut them up, you'll give them a bag

621
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: of em and M's.

622
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: And it really makes your life worse later though, because

623
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: when kids sugar bars, they're terrible well, and.

624
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: It also it creates an addiction, right, you know, and

625
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: it's a condition. It's really a conditioning too. So it's

626
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: like then when you're an adult and you're drunk and

627
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: you're like, I feel bad, I want McDonald It's like

628
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: you reward yourself with those bad things. Have you've been

629
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: conditioned to do it, whereas you are conditioned to eat

630
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: well because your family conditioned you to do that, So

631
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: you don't know any.

632
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Differently well, Like when I eat bad, I just feel

633
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: it so bad. Like it's not that I don't ever

634
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: and there are times where you know, I'm just kind

635
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: of on a like yeah, I need like a fry.

636
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: I love a French fry, like or you know, holidays,

637
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: it's like we're talking about you're at parties, you're at

638
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: dinners or whatever, and it is harder to eat whatever.

639
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: But I've been doing it for so long that I'll

640
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: find stuff pretty much everywhere that I can eat at

641
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: this point. Like everyone's always like, how do you do

642
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: gluten free? Dairy free? Actually it's really easy now, Like

643
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: there's so many options, and because I know what real

644
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: food is, Like I've done a bunch of like whole

645
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: thirty resets and like different diets not to lose weight,

646
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: but because I actually care about what's happening on the

647
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: inside because I feel it like I feel it so

648
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: drastically because of how I grew up. I think so right. Anyway, well,

649
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: I know you got to go. You got to go

650
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: to this festival and live it up. Hopefully you can

651
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: find some clean food. Actually, Mexico has great food.

652
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: They Mexican food can be very very clean and healthy. Yeah,

653
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of whole ingredients.

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Speaker 1: A lot of free a lot of vegetables.

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Speaker 3: I had faeedas yesterday that we're probably the best feed

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Speaker 3: as I've ever had my life. And one of the

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Speaker 3: things that I noted to the people I was with

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Speaker 3: was they didn't come out sizzling because the sizzling isn't

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Speaker 3: necessary for heat. That's flash that the American Mexican restaurants,

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Speaker 3: I've added, if they square oil on the food that's

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Speaker 3: on a hot plate and its sizzles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mine came out on a regular.

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Speaker 3: Plate and was so clean and healthy, fund of a

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Speaker 3: big mound, and it was great.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I always say to people as

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Speaker 1: a way to know if you're eating clean or not

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Speaker 1: is you shouldn't feel tired after you eat. And I

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Speaker 1: think in America, we're so accustomed to we eat a

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Speaker 1: meal and then you're tired, you have that lull. Well,

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Speaker 1: that means there's a bunch of junk in your food.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest that's the quickest way to know is

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Speaker 1: because food is fuel, like you said, and so what

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to feel after you eat. And I think

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Speaker 1: in a lot of countries when we go out to

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Speaker 1: eat and stuff, because they're not putting so much junk

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Speaker 1: in their food, you do feel this way. Like I've

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Speaker 1: heard people talk about Italy even like they could go

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Speaker 1: eat a whole pizza and go run a marathon after,

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Speaker 1: like they don't feel heavy and tired. So anyway, if

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Speaker 1: you're feeling that way after you eat, that's a good

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Speaker 1: indicator that maybe there's something in your food that's inflaming

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Speaker 1: your body inside making you tired. And then inflammation over

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Speaker 1: a long periods of time or long term is the

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Speaker 1: cause of all disease. So it's like food is I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is what's making us so sick in our culture,

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Speaker 1: and that's why there's so much cancer, That's why there's

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. So I'm glad in some ways that

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Speaker 1: this is coming around and people at the same time

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Speaker 1: that people are starting to pay attention to what's in

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Speaker 1: our food. I think it's the perfect timing. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your story with us. And I

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Speaker 1: know Chip would be willing to talk to anyone who

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Speaker 1: is interested in talking about this or going on this

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Speaker 1: journey themselves or curious about it, so you can always

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Speaker 1: email us at the Edge at velvisage dot com, or

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Speaker 1: if you want to hit them up directly on Instagram, Chip,

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Speaker 1: what is your Insta?

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Speaker 3: I'm at Chipdorshit's Chip drscch and I'm happy to give

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Speaker 3: the information about where I'm getting my compound and pharmacy

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Speaker 3: stuff from too, so just hit me up.

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Speaker 1: And maybe even your trainer since you can do it virtually,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting too, So anyway, hit him up for all

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Speaker 1: that if you want to talk to me about anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Velvet's Edge. And as you guys go into

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Speaker 1: the weekend and you're living on the edge, I hope

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Speaker 1: you always remember too bad casual.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye,