1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ. Buck 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: with you? Buck? How you doing, man, Man, I'm good, DJ. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: I am just surviving, trying to understand what is going 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: on in the NFL landscape. I know the league year, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: the new league year is a part us, but it's 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: it's crazy seeing some of the names that are being 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: thrown around. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: You appreciate what I'm working with here. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Buck. 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: By the way, the uh oh, the chick fil A, 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Chick fil a coffee, underrated coffee? You know chick fil A. No, No, 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: NFL insiders have been in a fight in a in 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: a Chick fil A that I know of. 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: A safe space we like safe space is no bullying. 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no bullying at all. We we hit on 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: a little combine recap on the last episode we had 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: read with us on that one. Today I wanted to 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: kind of go more the free agent route the team 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: route in some conversations that that I find fascinating, including 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: some really developments right before we came on. First of all, 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I want to hit you on the Joe Toney trade. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: I did Rich Rich's show this morning he sent me 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: a Texas morning, was like, this doesn't make any sense 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: to us, Like you got to help us. Why why 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: would they do this? So I did a little research 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: on it, and then I want to get your thoughts 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: on the back side of it. So I know the 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: obvious question. You just lost a Super Bowl. Your offensive 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: line got destroyed by a four man rush with the Eagles. 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: So why in the world would you get rid of 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: one of your best offensive linemen and Joe Toney and 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: you know for a minimal return. You know you got 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: to pick in twenty six I think coming back there way, 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: I think it was a four maybe in twenty six, 36 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: coming back to him. So here's what I laid out. 37 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: You've got five starters along the offensive line. Right, they've 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: got three taken care of. You've got Creed Humphries at 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty five year old center, your right guarden, Tray Smith 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: is twenty five years old. You've just franchised him. I'd 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: imagine you're going to get a long term extension done 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: with him. And then you've got Juwan Taylor at twenty seven, 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: so center, right guard, right tackle. Three of the five 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: young guys. You could even say guys that maybe have 45 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: are just getting into their prime. You know, truthfully, Joe 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: Toney's thirty two years old. He was going to cost 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: fifteen point five million. You're gonna have to extend him. 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to buy in to year's you know, 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: thirty three, thirty four to thirty five. Now you start 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: taking some risk for the club with the age of 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: the player and the cost of the player. So that 52 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: to me is why they decided, Okay, we're gonna trade 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: him now. I still think they're gonna use resources on 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: the offensive line and that these are the two scenarios. Buck. 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: You've got Aaron Banks is twenty seven years old as 56 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: a guard from the Niners. A good player. You've got 57 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: Will Freese from the Colts twenty seven. Makai Beckton, who 58 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: they saw in the Super Bowl twenty six. So those 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: are three guard options. So maybe they just go one 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: for one, right, Instead of investing in a thirty two 61 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: year old Joe Toney, we're gonna invest in a twenty 62 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: six or twenty seven year old to marry up. This 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: was the other one, And I'll get your thoughts on 64 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the whole thing here. Ronnie Stanley's a thirty one year 65 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: old left tackle where they're picking is kind of no 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: man's land term to trying to find a starting tackle. 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: We've seen them take a Ravens tackle before with Orlando 68 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Brown and that worked out for him. This, you know, 69 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: would solidify the left tackle position. And now we've got 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: four of the five taken care of, and instead of 71 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: trying to hunt for a left tackle in the draft, 72 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: we can hunt for a left guard, which will be 73 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: a little bit easier. 74 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: That makes sense, and also you have to understand the 75 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: mentality of the kan City chiefs Andy Reid has always 76 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: believed that he can fix whatever issues happen along the 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: front line. He also is committed to playing young players. 78 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: They've had a lot of success playing young players, and 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: you mentioned having three of the five linemen locked up 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: in their prime or entering their prime. When you look 81 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: at the kan City Chiefs, a lot of their successes, 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: they have made what I would call unpopular moves when 83 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: it comes to players that were good, but they move 84 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: on guys a year or two early before waiting until 85 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: it's too late. We've said that the NFL has now 86 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: become a game with the offensive line is okay, let's 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: minimize the tomato camp. So if we have four good ones, 88 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: let's see if you can find Waldough on that offensive line, 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: and how can we get there. You mentioned Makai Beckton 90 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: being on the open market. Maybe it's a situation where 91 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: they're saying, hey, let's see if we can try and 92 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: draft one, but let's see if we can find some 93 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: one year two year rentals until those young guys are 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: able to play. Remember, they drafted an offensive lineman last 95 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: year didn't play well. King didn't play well right away, 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: but maybe they still feel like he still can develop. 97 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get some stop gaps in 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: this place. Ultimately, they're in a position of flexibility because 99 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: DJ a lot of teams have a tough time finding 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: three solid starters on their line. They only have to 101 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: plug two holes. They have the draft and free agency 102 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: to be able to do it. Knowing the Kansas City 103 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they'll go the value route, try and find 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: a bargain basement shopper to find one of those holes, 105 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: and then the other would be a draft pick that 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: they try and slide into those places. 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: They've traded before too right, multiple times, Afraid to trade 108 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: if they can identify someone that could come in I 109 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: think they're going to spend as much or more dollars 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: than what Joe Toney was making. I think that some 111 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: of the freak out is like, man, why are they 112 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: taking pulling resources from the offensive line and redistributing it elsewhere, Like, no, 113 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: this is all going to go right back into the 114 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: offensive line. It's just they're choosing not to invest in 115 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: the thirty two year old. They don't. They love Joe 116 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Toney who he is now, but I think there's some 117 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: concern if we're paying him top of the market for, 118 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, not for what he's done, but for what 119 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: he is going to do, then there's some liability. There's 120 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: injury liability, there's play liability, and when you have so 121 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: many other big stars that you have to pay on 122 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: that team, they decided that a thirty two year old 123 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: guard is not the wisest place to sink that money. 124 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: Well, let's also give them credit for this for not 125 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: fall in love with your players. It can be really 126 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: hard and really emotional to move on from players that 127 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: have helped you have a dynastic run, which can see 128 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: the Chiefs have done, but they are always able to 129 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: keep things in perspective. Looking to the future. As long 130 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 2: as Number fifteen is under centered, that gives them a chance. 131 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: What can we do to ensure that Number fifteen has 132 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: an opportunity to play at a high level. Sometimes it 133 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: is getting weapons that are directly related to him, and 134 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna use the offensive line as a weapon. Sometimes 135 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: is getting weapons that are on the opposite side of 136 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: the ball that allow him to play at a high level. 137 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: Because the score is tight, the cancer the Chiefs know 138 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: that they're always in the hunt with Patrick Mahomes. Now 139 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: is how can we build our team to best support 140 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: him where the rest of the team is and where 141 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: he is in the prime of his career. 142 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's you know, it's interesting when 143 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: you just look at this move individually, I think there's 144 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: some shock, But I think the more you look into it, 145 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: the more it makes a lot of sense. And I 146 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: think once you get through free agency you'll see the plan, 147 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, kind of coming together here. But I think 148 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: the idea is to get players and that's why when 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: we get to free agency, and we'll talk about this 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: stuff as we go forward. But you might have a 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: little lesser player Buck, but he's twenty five years old, 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: twenty six years old, and you can have a guy 153 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: who's been a household name who's thirty three, thirty four 154 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: years old, and you're gonna see the young guys gonna 155 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: get paid more because the smart teams are paying you 156 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: for what you're going to do, not for what you've done. 157 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: Well. Absolutely, and that's part of what it is like 158 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: we're paying on a projection. We always talked about the draft. 159 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: The draft is not what you did in the past, 160 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: is about what we're anticipating you're able to do as 161 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: a pro and beyond. Same thing in free agency, same 162 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: thing as you're looking at your team each and every year. 163 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 2: This is one where the Kansas City Chiefs are trying 164 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: to make sure that they can keep the core intact. 165 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: As Patrick Mahomes ages, this group grows with him, and look, 166 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: we anticipate him playing in another ten years. They're gonna 167 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: have to flip this two or three times while he 168 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: still continued to play. This is a perfect time for 169 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: them to flip it if they need to flip it 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: at the front line. 171 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: In no doubt. All right, Buck, it's time for Hot 172 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: or Not, brought to you by with Sabby Hot Cloud Storage. 173 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's hot and that's Max Crosby. That 174 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: is a nice new deal for him that just got announced. 175 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: So the Raiders, Tom Brady, the combination of the two, 176 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: I guess I've decide that they're going to take care 177 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: of Max Crosby. Also bring in Alex Kappa, who I'm 178 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: not mistaken played with Brady with Tampa on their Super 179 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Bowl run. So a couple moves there for the Raiders. 180 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: But the hot aspect of that being the defensive end market, 181 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: because there are guys looking for deals. Micah Parsons, Trey Hendrickson, 182 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson's not far behind. They have to love what 183 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: they saw when this new deal came out. I'll pull 184 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: up the numbers for you right here, real quick. It 185 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: was a three year, one hundred and six point five 186 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: million extension included ninety one point five guaranteed. That's the 187 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. 188 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: That is amazing. But look, I love seeing good things 189 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: happen to good guys. When I look at what Max 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: Rosby has been able to do for the Raiders, he 191 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: has given them tremendous value, production, performance in leadership, coming 192 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: from where he came from at Eastern Washington, being a 193 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: day three pick who has become one of the better players. 194 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan. Eastern Michigan. Eastern Michigan, Yeah, I said, Jesse Washington. 195 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Eastern Washington. Yeah, because you got Cooper Cup just floating around. 196 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: The funny thing is I was thinking Green and White, 197 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, Eastern Michigan. Since he entered the league, he 198 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: has been a dominant player off the edge and the 199 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: way that he plays. You see him twice a year. 200 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: Obviously with your work with the Chargers, man you talk 201 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: about a talented, high motor player who gives it in 202 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: spite of any circumstance. Look, this team hasn't won in 203 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: a while, but he continues to be a dominant player, 204 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: and last year he did it without even rotating. He 205 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: is playing as a one man show on that front line. 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: I give p. Carroll credit for rewarding guys who play 207 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: well because he's ultimately going to be the extension of 208 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: the coaching staff on the field. He's happy, he's excited, 209 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: he's ready to assume leadership responsibilities because you've compensated him well, 210 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: You've shown him that you're rewarding him for his efforts. 211 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: I love it. It's rare that you see that, but 212 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: I love the way the Raiders to took care of 213 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: their best player. 214 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: So two questions. Number one obvious one. If you're Micah Parsons, 215 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: even though the sack numbers might not be there, in 216 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: terms of you know, your age and your dominance and 217 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: all the different things you can do, I would think 218 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: you're not taking less money than Max Crosby if you're 219 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, And that's the first question for you. And 220 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: the second one would be this sounds I don't think 221 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: people immediately thought of this player. But if I'm Jamar 222 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: Chase and I'm sitting here saying I deserve to be 223 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: the highest paid non quarterback, well that number just went up. 224 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: It just continues to escalate. 225 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that's a legitimate conversation. 226 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: It absolutely is the conversation, and it's one of those 227 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: things DJ I just look man, Howie Roseman is a 228 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: friend of the show. I give the Eagles credit because 229 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: they're always on the front end of giving those deals out. 230 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: They understand where the market is going. They pay people 231 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: early before the calls escalate, and a lot of these 232 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: teams are they're gonna be caught holding the bag because 233 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: they waited, and it never works when you wait when 234 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: it comes to playing top players. You're right, Michael Parsons 235 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: is looking at Max Crosby. He's going to use him 236 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: as a comp. Miles Garrett will eventually look at Max 237 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: Crosby because he's looking at him as a comp. Jamar 238 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: Chase is looking at him because he's like, I want 239 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: to be paid like the best player in the league 240 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: who's a non quarterback. Given my status as a triple 241 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: crown winner. Whynot. There's a lot of money that's gonna 242 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: float off the shelves this offseason. Max Robby Crosby has 243 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: started and also Saikwon Parkley's also kind of stirred it 244 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: up a little bit too. 245 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's interesting to see what happened, but it's 246 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: definitely something that is hot, hot hot for the market. 247 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: That was this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to 248 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: you by with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage, store more and 249 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: do more with your data. Try them for free at 250 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: Withsabi dot Com. Buck, we'll take a quick break here 251 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: we come back. DK Metcalf News. We'll get to that 252 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: writer for this all right, Buck, What sounds like DK 253 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: Metcalf and the Seahawks not on the same page. DK 254 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Metcalf has requested a trade. So first of all, if 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: you're Seattle, what does that mean for them? And then 256 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: secondly we can get into some fun. Here are some 257 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: teams that makes sense for DK Metcalf. 258 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: It's been a nice run, but I can understand why 259 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks we want to move on. He's making 260 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars right now. Do you want to continue 261 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: to kind of hit your wagon to DK Metcalf as, Look, 262 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: we're seeing these receivers as to get closer to thirty 263 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: and over thirty, Like, do you want to kind of 264 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: lock in where you catch some of the downside of 265 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: what that is. I understand DK Metcalf wants to get paid, 266 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: and he's looking around the marketplace and he sees what 267 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: look that it's going to command. But if I'm Seattle, 268 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: I understand JSN is ready to kind of take over 269 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: and be that player. Is one of the. 270 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: Reasons got lock it was this morning? 271 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's an opportunity to kind of turn 272 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: the page and get this team younger on the perimeter 273 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: and maybe not only a little more cat friendly, but look, 274 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: they're in the middle of trying to do a rebuild 275 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: on the flot anyway, So this is the perfect time 276 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: to part ways with all those guys, look at the drafts, 277 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: see what we can find, See if we can find 278 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: some bargain basement guys that can come and fill in, 279 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: and they ultimately don't have to make a decision on 280 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Geno Smith as well. 281 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: That's where I was getting ready to go because I 282 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: think what's happened and we've seen, you know, Aaron Rodgers 283 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: as he was getting towards forty was still playing you know, 284 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: MVP level football, Tom Brady obviously on the other side 285 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: of forty championship level football, And I think I think 286 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: we're there's a lot of people that are kind of 287 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: forgetting like that is those are exceptions that is not 288 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: how it normally goes. We've seen a lot more quarterbacks 289 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: Geno's thirty four, you know, think about Cousins last year, 290 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: think about Russell Wilson's fall off. Like, We're seen a 291 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: lot of those guys kind of fall off. So if 292 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: you're Seattle, is this almost like the fact that Lockett's 293 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: gone and maybe they trade DK metcalf Geno's thirty four. 294 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: What did jocu it Off Seattle said, you know what, 295 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: maybe we can because the quarterbacks situation is not great 296 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: around the league, and we'd have to find maybe we 297 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: could try and make it work with fields who's younger. 298 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: At least take a shot at somebody younger. Maybe we 299 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe we traded Geno and DK and kind of regroup 300 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: and reset. Here. 301 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: A lot of that would depend off what do they 302 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: feel like internally about Sam Howell, because remember they made 303 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: a move last year to get Sam. 304 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: I forgot Sam Howell was. 305 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: There, so maybe they are ready to go all in. 306 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: And here's what you have to understand, I would say, 307 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: particularly about defensive coaches. Defensive coaches always feel like there's 308 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: a way for them to be able to manufacture wins 309 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: without the offense being top notch. They always kind of 310 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: swin and say like, hey, if I just have a 311 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: quarterback that just takes care of the ball, we don't 312 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: turn it over, we run the ball, play great defense. Bang. 313 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's wheelhouse is the defense, and that defense certainly 314 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: has some intriguing options, and if you can add more 315 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: firepower to the defense, you can do it. I believe 316 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: all these coaches look within the division and they see 317 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: how teams are getting it done. Look at what the 318 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: Rams have been able to do with Look man, I 319 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: would say a bag of bolts and spare parts to 320 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: be a team that is going to back to back playoffs. 321 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: You know, like Matthew Stafford was a big part of that. 322 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: But think about all the young players that they've been 323 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: able to play with, and you bring up a great point, DJ. 324 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: When we came into the league, thirty was the magic number. 325 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: Thirty was the number where you're trying to move off. Guys. 326 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: We had a few guys that were able to pass that, 327 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Tom Brady being the most notable. But maybe we're having 328 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: a market correction where everyone is saying, hey, guys, maybe 329 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: we need to go back to making sure that we 330 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: understand the rarity that it is to find someone that 331 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: could play at a high level beyond thirty. Because when 332 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: you look around, not only at quarterbacks, you look at 333 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: these wide receivers Tyreek Hill and all these guys passing down. 334 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Williams, I saw a couple of them. 335 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: They're beginning, they're falling off. 336 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: It is hard to Adams sudden move like he did 337 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: a few years ago. 338 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Not not at all So to me, it does make 339 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: sense if you're able to truly assess what's going on 340 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: around the league, look at the trends and say, hey man, 341 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna punt on this. We're gonna move on from 342 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: these older players. We're gonna get younger and more dynamic, 343 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: and we're gonna figure out a way to win with 344 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: young players, kind of being at the nucleus. 345 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: All right, So let's get to the other side of it, then, 346 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: because there's two teams that came right to mind. If 347 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf does get traded, two teams that would make 348 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: a whole host of sense. Actually, I'll give you three 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: teams and then give me some other teams, or what 350 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: you think of those three the three teams that popped 351 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: right in my mind for different reasons, New England, Pittsburgh, 352 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Those two three that pop right up. Let's 353 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: go through them individually. Here, New England, why would that 354 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. 355 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: The berief of talent on the perimeter. They need someone 356 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: that can command double team attention. They need a playmaker, 357 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: multiple playmakers around Drake May to allow him to really 358 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: play the way that he wants to play the position. Also, 359 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: when you think about Drake. May you think about this 360 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: offense and trying to produce points. Everyone wants to long ball. 361 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: Chicks dig the long ball. DK Metcalf still brings that 362 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: big play element to the field for a team that 363 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: has a ton of CAF space, for a team that 364 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: loves that would like to kind of be a little rougher, tougher, 365 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: more physical, more dynamic. DK Metcalf makes sense. And also 366 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: Mike Rabel his relationship with AJ Brown and how he 367 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: desperately missed AJ Brown. Who's going Yeah, who is aj 368 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: Bross teammate? 369 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: DK metcalf old mess same agent too. 370 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: Same agent. And also what did Mike Rabel love about 371 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: AJ Brown physicality, toughness? You know who else brings that? 372 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: Dk Metcalf. They're not the same type player, but man, 373 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: you talk about a physical, imposing presence on the perimeter 374 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: as DK Metcalf yep. 375 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: And then if we get to the Pittsburgh Steelers, a 376 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: team that you know, George Pickens is kind of what 377 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: they've got right now and it doesn't sound like that's 378 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: a great setup. There still some immaturity issues there. We've 379 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: talked about adults in the room being something that the 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Steelers cove it, you know, and the direction they've tried 381 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: to go. They've rebuilt the offensive line on the fly 382 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: over the last two year. They've got a really good 383 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: set up there. We'll see what happens with him at quarterback. 384 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, is that Justin Field seems to be the 385 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse there as potentially being their guy. 386 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: Or if justin Field you want somebody can go up 387 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and get the ball down the field. DK Metcalf can 388 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: go do that for you. 389 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he spans the strike zone. The only thing that 390 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: I worry about Dk is we talked about adults in 391 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: the room. DK has had some issues with his emotional 392 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: outburst in game. Does Mike Tomlin feel like he can 393 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 2: kind of help him work through those issues. There's no 394 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: doubt that he's talented. There's no doubt that he would 395 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: be a great fit in Pittsburgh stylistically in terms of 396 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: his physicality, toughness, the rugged nature that their wide receivers 397 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: have traditionally displayed. The emotional part, you just got to 398 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: make sure you do it because coming off of I 399 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: would say, man, I five to seven year runs. But 400 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: they've dealt with a lot of emotional receivers are they 401 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: willing to welcome that into the fold. But he certainly 402 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: is a good play and he would fit. 403 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: So let me get to the last one there the Chargers, 404 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: and obvious reason, think about Mike Williams' success that he 405 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: had with Justin Herbert. You know over there run together. 406 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert loves guys he can trust. He doesn't really 407 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: have that type of player, you know. Obviously you look 408 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: at Lad McConkie and what he can do, especially working 409 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: in the slot in the middle of the field. He's 410 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: a dynamic. But I want to put the puzzle piece 411 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: together for you as as an offense. What if, and 412 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: this is all if, all right there for you? If 413 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers lined up Week one next year, Buck, and 414 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: you've got Justin Herbert, and then you look out in 415 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: the formation and you've got DK Metcalf out wide, You've 416 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: got Lad McConkie in the slot, and all of a sudden, 417 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: we've got Omari and Hampton lined up behind Justin Herbert. 418 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: You talk about a team that needed to get more explosive. 419 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: You throw Amar and Hampton in the backfield and DK 420 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: Metcalf out wide with Ladd McConkie still there. That's a 421 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: different looking offense, different little offense. 422 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: Before you mentioned Marii and Hampton situation, I was going 423 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: to talk about just building a basketball team. So now 424 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: you have polar opposites in terms of Lad McConkie and 425 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: DK metcalf. Lad McConkie is the slippery route running that 426 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: can get in and out, dominates between inside the numbers. 427 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf the big, physically imposing, vertical stretch guy that 428 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: can make his place outside the numbers and down the field. 429 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: You think about justin Herbert and how if the running 430 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: game is working, when you throw it, you're throwing for 431 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: chunk plays. DK metcalf would give them that. And when 432 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: you factor in an old school workhorse running back in 433 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: Hampton Man, that's the kind of team that we've seen 434 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: Harbor have traditionally went all the way back to his 435 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: time with Frank Gore, kind of being the tailback for 436 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. 437 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: The other thing I was thinking of is if they 438 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: did that, say it was a second round pick. I 439 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: don't know what the cost would be, but say it's 440 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: a second round pick. If you're the Chargers in this 441 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: draft with you have other needs, you know, and then 442 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: see what they do in free agency, interior offensive line 443 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. They've got some free agency on 444 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: defense they could look to bring back. But if we 445 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: say that they want to get a running back, a 446 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: young running back, a rookie running back at some point 447 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: time in this draft, you go, Okay, well man, you 448 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: traded your second round pick for DK Metcalf. That could 449 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: be a nice sweet spot. It's a good pot of 450 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the spot in this draft. Buck. If you're sitting there 451 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: and you're the Chargers where you're picking in the early twenties, 452 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: you have no second round pick, you can trade back once, 453 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: maybe twice, and guess what, You're gonna have one of 454 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: those Ohio state backs. You know, we'll see what happens 455 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: with a Marion Hampton who we were talking about. There's 456 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: going to be options for you at that point in 457 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: time to slide back and recoup that second round pick. 458 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, I've talked about Mason Taylor making a lot 459 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: of sense for them to get the tight end that 460 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: they want in the second round. So there might be 461 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: a way to have your cake and eat it too 462 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: where you part with a second round pick, but you 463 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: can trade down once or twice and still be be 464 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: holding some selections in that window. 465 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would look. That would that would be a 466 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: perfect scenario where you're able to make the move, get 467 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: the people that you get, but still retain enough assets 468 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: to be able to upgrade your team through the draft. 469 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: We are at a time where everyone is super aggressive. 470 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: I just think about the number of trades that we've 471 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: seen DJ, I just feel like it's our generation, although 472 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: our buddies are sitting in the seasondary aggressively going after 473 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: it and you're not afraid to make those moves. It's 474 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: a really interesting and fascinating time, but it's one that look, 475 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm loving yep. 476 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I want to hit on a couple more things here 477 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. But free agency wise, 478 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: the Dominoes haven't really fallen yet, a quarterback wise, because 479 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: you have Matthew Stafford who's stayed in La so I 480 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: think if he would have left, and you know that 481 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: he goes to the Giants, he goes to the Raiders, 482 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: the Dominoes, you know, start to fall and we see 483 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: a lot of movement. But it does sound like the 484 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: first Domino might be on the way here with with 485 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: Sam Donald getting to the market. That to me signals 486 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: that this JJ McCarthy era is beginning in Minnesota. They 487 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: are that very much sounds to me like they are 488 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: going to JJ mccarthur. AlCH you would lock that up 489 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: and not let him get to the market. So or 490 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: that being said, who makes the most sense for him? 491 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: And then how did the other dominoes start to fall 492 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: after that? 493 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of surprised because, like you going with 494 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, Like in terms of as a player, maybe 495 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell has been like a miracle worker when it 496 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: comes to quarterbacks. That maybe DJ That was why they 497 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: made the move for Daniel Jones. Remember we talked about 498 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones coming home. 499 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: JJ's not ready and just in case he's not. 500 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: Ready in all those things, you got a full half 501 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: season in the system. Just keep an eye on that. 502 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: For Sam donald Man, this is everything. There's gonna be 503 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: a ton of cash being thrown his way. People are 504 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: gonna naturally link him to the Las Vegas Raiders in 505 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: terms of their need and what they want to me, 506 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: that would make the most sense. I think for Sam 507 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: it's the type of coach that he plays for more 508 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: so than who actually coaches him. When I think about 509 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll and I think about Kevin mccondll builders, guys 510 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: that build you up and not tear you down, how 511 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 2: they always see the positive end the player and what 512 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: they could be. To me, I'm running towards that kind 513 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: of environment more so than one they may be led 514 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: by somebody else, So the Raiders to me seemed like 515 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: an extra fit. 516 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's an interesting option. I think Pittsburgh 517 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: if doesn't happen with Fields. I don't know that Sam 518 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: Donald would be, you know, in a sprint to go 519 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: back to the New York market. But if you're the Giants, 520 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean you've got to at least try and kick 521 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: the tires there. He's better than what you than what 522 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: options you're stared with right now. So I think they 523 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: would have some opportunities there. And the one I lobbed 524 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: out on social media the day that got everybody all 525 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: upset was was the Colts Buck because they've they've come 526 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: out and said they're bringing me, they're bringing in competition, 527 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: and I just have a hard time when I look 528 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: at you know that, when when you have to when 529 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: your owner makes comments at the end of the year 530 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: explaining why you're bringing people back right, if your owner 531 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: feels that he needs to do that, that to me 532 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: says like there's some urgency we need to win now 533 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: from a general manager, head coach perspective, And I just 534 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: don't know how you can say, based off what we've 535 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: seen that you feel more confident Anthony richardson winning you 536 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: games next year than you would Sam Donald. That's why 537 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: I brought That's why I brought that one to the forefront. 538 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: No way, no how. And the only thing that if you, 539 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, you want some insurance is based on the 540 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: contract to make sure that I'm not going setting myself up. 541 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: Just go two years, two years, That's what I do. 542 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: But if you're thinking about the situation, it's a much 543 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: better team that they'd be stepping into. It's a team 544 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: that should have. 545 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: Been a division with the division. I mean, I'm not 546 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: using you in a bad spot with the Jacks. The 547 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: Jags are not coming off a good year, and the 548 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: Titans they're picking first. 549 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, a division that should be winnable if you do 550 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: what you're supposed to do in this situation. They have 551 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: a big time back in Jonathan Taylor. They got two 552 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: wide receivers and Josh Downs and Michael Pittman. They have 553 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: a defense. 554 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: They've got ad Ni Mitchell, who's just got all the 555 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: upside in the world. Like they've forgot even more weapons. 556 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: I mean, they have intriguing talent and potential that could 557 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: make it a really good situation when me and Shann 558 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: Psyching is really good with quarterbacks. It hasn't worked out 559 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: for Anthony Richardson, but you think of the other quarterbacks 560 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: that played there, they've been okay, intriguing. That's what I 561 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: would say. 562 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: If I was Sam Darnold, of all the different options 563 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: that are out there, and again, I'm kind of creating 564 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: one here. But Shane Stikeen came on our errand said, 565 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: we want to bring in competition. I think everybody just assumed, well, 566 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: that's just like a flyer, you know, backup, you know, 567 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of fake competent. But like, if you really want 568 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: to try and upgrade your room. If I'm if I'm 569 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: Sam Donold, I'm trying to get to Indianapolis, that's where 570 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: i want to play. Oh money, money, there's probably who knows, 571 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: there's probably zero point zero one percent chance that that's 572 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: uh that's been discussed or that's on the on the table, 573 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: But I just looking at the different places and I'm going, Okay, 574 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: who is not set at quarterback? Man, I'd be the 575 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: team that i'd want to play for. 576 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I can't fault you for that. Look, 577 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: it's a nice situation. We've talked about this kind of 578 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: being this sweet spoty. No one really mentions the coast 579 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: kind of being in the quarterback market. They just talk 580 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: bringing competition, So it's almost like it's a throwaway that 581 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: is one that you have a legitimate shot to get 582 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: the QB one job and to have success and let 583 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: that success lead to a Baker Mayfield type contract. 584 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, all right. Any any other veteran stuff 585 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: going on out there you're interested in before we get 586 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: out of here. 587 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: Only the Sakuon Barkley things. Sakon Barky, Yeah, two years 588 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: from year extension putting him at twenty million a year. 589 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: You talk about someone who kind of bettered himself and 590 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: it paid off. Sakwon Barkley has done that. I'm curious 591 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: to see what it does to the rest of the 592 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: running back market. James Cook is a notable name that 593 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: is going to be out there. He's already said that. 594 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking fifteen million plus. I can't say that I 595 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: would confidently be like, yeah, let's give him fifteen million. 596 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: But for Saquon Barkley and for the elite of the elites, Yeah, 597 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: it looks good to see the running backs finally reaching 598 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: some of that that big money that has been reserved 599 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: for quarterbacks and pass catches and pass rushers. 600 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's always challenging when you win a Super 601 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: Bowl because lots of people want to get paid. I 602 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: don't even know that they let that even simmer become 603 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: an issue. Was like, we're going to take that care 604 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: of this dude right now, and let's recognize him for 605 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: what he just did. And doesn't show any signs of 606 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: slowing down anytime soon. So I thought that was smart, 607 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: smart on the Eagles part. All right, Buck, that's all 608 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: we have for today. This has been a fun one. 609 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: We'll we'll be back here next week week with some 610 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: some new episodes. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be out 611 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: and about here. We get twenty fifth twenty fifth anniversary. Buck, 612 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta take a little take a little 613 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: break there. I appreciate that. So we'll be on the 614 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: we'll be on the move you'll have us locked down 615 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: here on freegency. I'll be back to end and next 616 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: week to kind of recap what goes on, uh in 617 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: free agency? Do want to let everybody know there's a 618 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: new pod coming out with a Rosie in me. So 619 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of Enemy'smies. Yeah. Yeah, it's called free Agents 620 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: in forties is what it's called. So it's kind of 621 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: taking the free agency side where he does all the 622 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: top free agents, and I'm living on the draft space. 623 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: So we're going to try and throw these things together. 624 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: So I was told he was only going to talk 625 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: about a third of the time. That's why I agreed 626 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: to do it. But we'll see if he can adhere 627 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: to that to those guys. But anyway, it's gonna look 628 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: out for that, all right, Buck, anything else you want 629 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: to throw it air before we get out of here. 630 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: No, man, have fun, enjoy your vacation. I will rap 631 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: with you when you get back next week. 632 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you, man. That's it. We'll see you next time. 633 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: Right here, unmove the sticks.