Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick
Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the
Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. So there's a reference to Everson Walls
Speaker 1: on page seventy eight and seventy nine. That's all I get. Swagger,
Speaker 1: that's all I get get. Like a couple of citizens
Speaker 1: on the page, Mix Shot Son, Hey, what day is this?
Speaker 1: This is a Thursday? There it is. It's a copy.
Speaker 1: It's not autographed, but it's for you. Everson. Who is
Speaker 1: Dave Hyde. He's a Miami sportswriter. He was a sportswriter
Speaker 1: for the Miami Harold's Newspaper. Yeah, it was either Miami
Speaker 1: or well then I'll take it. No, that is not
Speaker 1: for anyone. That's for Bill alone. All Right, we are
Speaker 1: inside the s BBC podcast studio. It's a Thursday, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the practice field and Mickey Spagnola arrived
Speaker 1: just in the nick of time for his own mick
Speaker 1: of time. That I was a nick of time. That's good.
Speaker 1: I liked it I was on I was on Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant time. Yeah. And the reason you any good reasons
Speaker 1: because you're watching practice. Yes, funny story. If you're on time,
Speaker 1: I was late. If you're on time, no late for this.
Speaker 1: I was already prepared. Right in uh twenty fourteen, when
Speaker 1: we were going to London, we were leaving the buses
Speaker 1: at the ranch at four o'clock for the plane, and
Speaker 1: here comes Daz three fifty eight into the parking lot
Speaker 1: and he had to go through security and basically walked
Speaker 1: out right around four o'clock. Right. So, the first day
Speaker 1: we were there, I plugged in my laptop and it
Speaker 1: shorted out my power thing to the laptop, so I
Speaker 1: had to kind of steal power from other people's connection, right.
Speaker 1: And so I'm in the in the kind of common
Speaker 1: area where they were working in the hallways in that hotel,
Speaker 1: and we were supposed to leave at eleven thirty, and
Speaker 1: I was eleven twenty five, and I was stealing power, right,
Speaker 1: And I get a phone call and it's brought us,
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, you come into practice. I go yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes, well, eleven thirty it's leaving. I go, well,
Speaker 1: it's eleven twenty five, and he goes, well, you better
Speaker 1: get here. And just when I was saying I'm on
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant time, Jason Garrett comes walking down the hallway
Speaker 1: and I said, eleven thirty means eleven thirty, And I
Speaker 1: cracked him up because he knew what almost happened. Right,
Speaker 1: hey man, when you overseas things, so noon is noon,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. I'm here and they And the
Speaker 1: reason that you walked in almost late but not late
Speaker 1: is because you're out of the practice field watching practice
Speaker 1: and they are practicing. I can tell you that Zeke
Speaker 1: was going through his normal um resistant cord drills with
Speaker 1: Britt Brown along with Michael Gallup who continues to do
Speaker 1: them just as a warm up, and Zeke was moving well.
Speaker 1: And from all I can tell is, you know when
Speaker 1: they when they give out the injury port, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, I have it here, which is two pages
Speaker 1: for the packers this week. Yeah, when they say limited,
Speaker 1: they don't mean limited physically, they mean limited in how
Speaker 1: many snaps you take. Okay, so Zeke took snaps, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so if he just worked on the side, he would
Speaker 1: have d and he didn't participate right, But so he
Speaker 1: did some stuff and so did Norah Brown. Absolutely, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know when I see him out there when they
Speaker 1: get done doing that stuff, Uh, they're running pretty well.
Speaker 1: So I think that bodes well for going for I
Speaker 1: think the only guy that's in jeopardy is uh Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: Athony bar excuse me, um. He didn't practice and I
Speaker 1: was told after the injury that it looked pretty iffy
Speaker 1: for a guy that's thirty. And it's a hamstring and
Speaker 1: you never know how long those things are gonna last.
Speaker 1: So I would think he's the guy in jeopardy. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when Mike answered the question today
Speaker 1: in the press conference, he said, at best he would
Speaker 1: be limited today. So I think that is not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And the question was posed about him Anthony Barrn of course,
Speaker 1: his history of playing against the Packers, and it was
Speaker 1: kind of a couched in if he if he can
Speaker 1: get back, he'd love to get back for this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's Green Bay. Well, don't you know the game
Speaker 1: he really wants to get back for next week? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I thought he had a good answer and it
Speaker 1: made sense, logical sense. On James Washington about how they're
Speaker 1: going to practice next week pulling back for Thanksgiving, that
Speaker 1: there was no sense starting him this week and then
Speaker 1: not getting much practice the next week, and then the
Speaker 1: third week all you would get is kind of a day,
Speaker 1: not really a full practice. So they're going to start
Speaker 1: him later because of the schedule, not because of his
Speaker 1: physical status. So he would start later, maybe next week, okay,
Speaker 1: and then he would get that week somewhat the next week,
Speaker 1: and then he would get a full week of practice
Speaker 1: going into Who's after Thanksgiving Indianapolis Indianapolis, he would get
Speaker 1: a full we get the mini buy and then because
Speaker 1: that is not a Thursday game like we've had recently,
Speaker 1: we don't get the three in ten days. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we got three in twelve days here, but but here
Speaker 1: recently we've been playing a second Thursday game after the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game. We're not doing that this time. It's a
Speaker 1: Sunday game. So you get two in ten days basically
Speaker 1: because of Thanksgiving. But at least you get all that
Speaker 1: time afterwards. Fair. The other Thursday game is after Christmas
Speaker 1: this year, and that's the reason, because the whole right Christmas,
Speaker 1: they play and and and they play Saturday and then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not even a day, but Sunday Thursday, if you can.
Speaker 1: It's actually caught a break their Christmas. Yeah, they did well.
Speaker 1: Now now I heard that we we could be playing
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. No, it's not gonna happen, right, not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I don't think. No, they don't. The word
Speaker 1: I've heard is that Philadelphia will stay on Christmas Eve. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: no matter how, hold me to it. But that's a
Speaker 1: little no matter what, no matter how. But Bill mentioned,
Speaker 1: Bill mentioned the Packers, and they've got seventeen guys on
Speaker 1: their injury port and only one is full, which is
Speaker 1: Christian Watson with the concussion. We'll see how full it
Speaker 1: is going on any of them. Offensive lineman. Uh David
Speaker 1: Baktahari did not practice with a knee. Um. They they're
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I believe he's starting now. Romano Dobbs, he's out.
Speaker 1: He's out right, and they listen, he's not. He's had.
Speaker 1: They have not put him on any reserve. He's got,
Speaker 1: he's DNP. But we've read that he is out. Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones is limited with an ankle. Lazard is limited with
Speaker 1: a shoulder. Uh. So the runt end um. Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: with a knee did not practice, and I think those
Speaker 1: are what they have on Christian Watson full concussion, so
Speaker 1: because he because the concussion that Watson suffer was actually
Speaker 1: the previous week and then he got banged up and
Speaker 1: I think, in fact it was what I heard it was.
Speaker 1: He just got the breath knocked out of it. He
Speaker 1: got checked as if it was a a concussion, right,
Speaker 1: and they and they cleared him. Yeah. Oh, and John
Speaker 1: running their their guard was limited also. And so I'm
Speaker 1: worried about the offensive lineman because we talked yesterday after
Speaker 1: after we signed off about how good they are on
Speaker 1: the running game right, and you know, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: all problems that could occur, especially while you're on the road.
Speaker 1: That's something you don't want to be prevalent against your defense,
Speaker 1: is their ability to run the ball, control the clock right,
Speaker 1: and the tempo of the ball game that that's not
Speaker 1: what we want. And then they also picked up Jonathan Abrams.
Speaker 1: The Raiders let them go their former first round pick
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen safety safety. Yes, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: We got Waive that only played thirty six games for him.
Speaker 1: So Packers were a little short in the secondary, so
Speaker 1: they picked him up too. But yeah, they've got uh
Speaker 1: sixteen guys listed as limited or did not practice, and
Speaker 1: uh ten of the guys did not practice, so they
Speaker 1: they've got some some problems from ran on us extremely well.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, the head three backup offensive linemen
Speaker 1: in that game, am I correct? It was? It was
Speaker 1: off to look back at it, but it was something
Speaker 1: like it was in too yeah. Yeah. And then in
Speaker 1: Chicago they have all these mid round draft pick offensive
Speaker 1: linemen on their team and it's been makeshift as it goes,
Speaker 1: so to say that their backups they might actually be
Speaker 1: the guys that should be the should have been the
Speaker 1: starters all along, you know. And so right, either way,
Speaker 1: you had we had a group that was kind of
Speaker 1: glued and pasted together that was still pretty effective against us.
Speaker 1: And by the way, one of those did not practice.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Guess what a right thumb. He's been bothered
Speaker 1: by it for a while now, right, and I think
Speaker 1: he was protecting it this last game. He was having
Speaker 1: some problems. He has been throwing into offensive linemen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that one of his passes have been knocked down.
Speaker 1: That was the especially against One of the interceptions this
Speaker 1: past Sunday was he hit somebody off the defensive lineman
Speaker 1: and the defensive against the Giants, he did it twice right,
Speaker 1: the last two passes that really would have counted. So
Speaker 1: they've got some things that they got to deal with.
Speaker 1: We need to march off in there and just take
Speaker 1: care of business and take out buzz by Band and
Speaker 1: right from the start, don't let him hang around. That's right.
Speaker 1: Don't turn the ball over and give him something sheet No,
Speaker 1: And that's that's including start in the second half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, no, no, no, nobody prieve at all. Just
Speaker 1: go in there with the hammer this is and then
Speaker 1: just do it for a coach. That made me think
Speaker 1: of one of those political commercials where they were knocking
Speaker 1: down the wall. Right, it's like going there with the
Speaker 1: hammer and knock them down, knock out the wall. Do
Speaker 1: you want to hear a funny story? Last night Funny
Speaker 1: Cross Talk, Timmy Newsom was our guest. Nate was there,
Speaker 1: and I was doing some research on Timmy played with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys from eighty through eighty eight, and I read
Speaker 1: something and I didn't remember it from eighty six, but
Speaker 1: when that was when they got Herschel walker right, and
Speaker 1: it said that at one point in eighty six, Landry
Speaker 1: set them up in a full house backfield. It was
Speaker 1: Herschel to one side, Timody the other side, and then
Speaker 1: Dorsett was behind him. And so we briefly talked about it.
Speaker 1: We get off the air and Nate goes, oh, Timmy,
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say Herschel was playing on
Speaker 1: the right wing. I said, okay, line of the night.
Speaker 1: And you did it when we were break nye the
Speaker 1: want Cause too Much trouble? Yeah, right, that the name
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. That's the Nathan Theate likes to be right,
Speaker 1: and everybody loved it. I was on Twitter, man, they
Speaker 1: said that was probably our best show. Well, we tweeted
Speaker 1: it out to Douglas, tweeted out the clip yeah of
Speaker 1: course and the cow bite yes, and that when the
Speaker 1: response to it was several of them like that was
Speaker 1: our best show. It's a damn shame is our best
Speaker 1: show when he's not even part of our Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: real quick? And because I mentioned it off the top,
Speaker 1: what I would like to get into in the next segment?
Speaker 1: Did you listen to Aaron Rodgers yesterday I heard excerpts. Okay,
Speaker 1: he and his relationship with McCarthy, and it was really good.
Speaker 1: Was his regular locker room UM Weekly interview with the
Speaker 1: press up there. But before I do that, before next segment,
Speaker 1: let me because I know you're curious, Everson, what Jimmy
Speaker 1: wrote about you in his book. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: paraphrase here from the UM because I am. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you this as a gift after I read it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: after you after I have to read the book first.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make me buy it. Yeah, your name's not
Speaker 1: in it, not at all, not at all. All right,
Speaker 1: So we're talking about Everson Walls was beaten for a
Speaker 1: seventy two yard touchdown. I guess he falls still doesn't
Speaker 1: know how the coach defense minute to play that dropped
Speaker 1: us to one and nine. While trudging off the field,
Speaker 1: I saw Walls joking with that winning receiver. That is
Speaker 1: not true either. It was not Ernie Jones was the
Speaker 1: one that scored the touchdown. What Green was? Who I
Speaker 1: was talking to? Everson? What is going on here? I yelled,
Speaker 1: get your blank in h in the locker room. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Okay, that part's true. Walls looked
Speaker 1: at me, what's the big deal. We'd already lost eight
Speaker 1: of them. We're not going to the playoffs, he said, Okay, Walls,
Speaker 1: here's what Jimmy says. Walls wasn't a bad guy, nor
Speaker 1: was he a bad player. He went on to help
Speaker 1: thanks New York Giants. Wow, he didn't say you were
Speaker 1: a good good those guys to help the New York
Speaker 1: Giants win a super Bowl. But he was a bad
Speaker 1: fit for our rebuilding program in Dallas. That's the first
Speaker 1: step for eddy losing organization, recognizing and ridding yourself of
Speaker 1: the bad people, are wrong players. Walls represented the losing
Speaker 1: culture I had to change. He wasn't around the next scene.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Round one. Good enough of the one in
Speaker 1: fifteen Cowboys, you're enough of the thirteen and three Super
Speaker 1: Bowl winning nights next year. That's great Now he has
Speaker 1: since So that's our cow bites for he got all
Speaker 1: of it wrong. He missed two bites. At least get
Speaker 1: the receiver right, then get it right. All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk Aaron Rodgers and we come back in a moment. No, right,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Wow, how do we account outside of the
Speaker 1: inexperienced receiving corps that he has? That? Aaron Rodgers at
Speaker 1: this point, coming off the seasons that he's had. You know,
Speaker 1: he turns thirty nine in early December. December second, I think, yes,
Speaker 1: he turns thirty nine years old, back to back MVP seasons.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna say, wish a happy birthday to someone
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy turning fifty nine today. Wow, isn't that nice? Scobio,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah, sco my wife's on the fifth
Speaker 1: so okay, Reddy mc, I only know when Sagittarius, yeah,
Speaker 1: cap Cory, Right, okay, I'm a Gemini and anyway, wait,
Speaker 1: you are, Jim and I am twin twin sister Mom. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: it's crazy about that. And I'm a Gemini. That's right, man,
Speaker 1: that's weird. That is weird. That's what me and Bill
Speaker 1: have them coming. What you're a gemini too, I'm a twin.
Speaker 1: He's a twin. Well yeah, but you're not a Gemini.
Speaker 1: You're not a twin by twin sign. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're just a twin. You're not astrologic. He
Speaker 1: covers a whole gamut. Man. That's sorry, sorry, really that
Speaker 1: was congratulations though a twin. Um. All right. So, so
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers turns thirty nine next month. Mike McCarthy turned
Speaker 1: fifty nine today. But I thought it was very enlightening
Speaker 1: to hear Aaron Rodgers yesterday at his locker talking on
Speaker 1: and on about his relationship with Mike McCarthy and how
Speaker 1: close of relationship they have. I mean, you can only
Speaker 1: assume during the time, but even but he bet he
Speaker 1: has says that it has grown uh stronger here in
Speaker 1: the last It sounded like maybe even in the last
Speaker 1: year or so, Yeah, because he's not there, uh not,
Speaker 1: it was more so because relationship, maybe because the relationship
Speaker 1: as personal not football. Because when he came to football.
Speaker 1: They they rumored that that was one reason he left,
Speaker 1: was because they couldn't get along. It's already been rumored
Speaker 1: he's having problems from football wise with Matt Lafour. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said wise, he has problems with everybody. He's a
Speaker 1: critical thinker. I like that. And there's many many uses
Speaker 1: of the world critical, right, And it sounded like that
Speaker 1: they reached out to each other here in the last
Speaker 1: year or so, and so they've contacted each through texting
Speaker 1: or calls or whatever and so and Aaron's point, audit
Speaker 1: was that now that there's some distance between, he appreciates
Speaker 1: even more now what McCarthy did for him in his career.
Speaker 1: And there's a sin more of a as time passes,
Speaker 1: there's more of us since the gratitude and he's seen it.
Speaker 1: He's with another coach now and he wasn't going to
Speaker 1: compare how it is playing for McCarthy had nothing compared
Speaker 1: to right and coming into the league. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all he had was what at cal Tell oh five
Speaker 1: he was there with Mike Sherman, Sherman's last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And McCarthy got there at O six because and and
Speaker 1: there was still a little bitterness because when McCarthy was,
Speaker 1: you know, five in San Francisco, they didn't draft him.
Speaker 1: They drafted Alex Smith number one overall pick, right, and
Speaker 1: I think that's still stuck in his cross well. And
Speaker 1: then Rogers slid all the way to up to twenty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah teams then, yeah, he was twenty fourth pick, twenty
Speaker 1: fourth pick of the old That's why he's been tearned
Speaker 1: up like that. He's been Randy Moss right. Nineteen teams
Speaker 1: passed on him, but the only one he held a
Speaker 1: grudge again, the Cowboys. By the way, listen, think about this.
Speaker 1: I look at the old five draft, Bill parcels here,
Speaker 1: the old five draft of the Cowboys took to Marcus
Speaker 1: Ware at eleven and Marcus Spears at twenty, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went twenty four in that draft. Oh so, actually,
Speaker 1: had they decided that Aaron Rodgers was going to be
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, they could have taken him even at the
Speaker 1: twentieth hit there with their second first drouft. But Bill,
Speaker 1: but Bill knew that Tony Romo was on to come. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we were still a year and a half away
Speaker 1: from Tony Romo. Ever, playing in a game which was
Speaker 1: still too soon for Bill Parcels. Yeah yeah, but so
Speaker 1: so then, so this is what would have happened then
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys had taken Aaron Rodgers. Okay, if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had taken Aaron Rodgers in the first round of
Speaker 1: the O five, what would have happened to Tony Romo?
Speaker 1: He would have been let go and where would he
Speaker 1: have wound up with that Green Bay Packers. He may
Speaker 1: not have made it anywhere. He would have gone back
Speaker 1: home to Wisconsin's signed as a free agent. He would
Speaker 1: have been the local Bill Jones back to Wisconsin. Wow,
Speaker 1: and you realize Romo was the first Cowboy quarterback to
Speaker 1: win a game at lambeau Field two thousand and eight. Man,
Speaker 1: I wish he could could have gotten what's that media gain?
Speaker 1: I wish he could have gotten another one. He's gonna
Speaker 1: check me, But no, no, I believe you. I was
Speaker 1: just trying to think of, Wow, how many games? What
Speaker 1: was their Cowboys record? Well, currently they're two and nine
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. Now there were some games in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Um. But Tom Landry never beat
Speaker 1: Lombardy except yes, he did in the preseason get out.
Speaker 1: The reason I bringed that up. You and I went
Speaker 1: back at one point and looked in the archives the
Speaker 1: old newspaper articles they had at Valley Ranch, Okay, and
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable the amount of media attention back in
Speaker 1: the sixties that they gave to the preseason gamess and
Speaker 1: the and the Cowboys didn't sell out any games in
Speaker 1: the regular season back then, but when the Packers came
Speaker 1: to town in the preseason, they were sellouts, baby, because
Speaker 1: they were champions. Yeah, it's the super Bowl or not
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that the NFL champion Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: sixty one. I think it has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with the matchup of the coaches as well, sixty one
Speaker 1: and sixty two. Even even then they were they well,
Speaker 1: they were assistants together with the Giants. Well, Landry wasn't
Speaker 1: a legend then, No, No, Lombardi wasn't either. He was
Speaker 1: gonna be well because he turned around the Packers in
Speaker 1: like two years, right or three the third season. All right,
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys won. The Cowboys wins over the Packers
Speaker 1: on the road were in Milwaukee. They beat him in
Speaker 1: Milwaukee in nineteen seventy eight, nineteen eighty nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: I was at that one. Uh and when did they
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight? What was the other time
Speaker 1: they played in Milwaukee? Ninety well, nineteen sixty five they
Speaker 1: lost because I covered a game in Milwaukee. I did too.
Speaker 1: That was that was? That was the nineteen ninety one, right,
Speaker 1: ninety one? Was it? Yeah? Ninety one, that's the one
Speaker 1: and I covered that one too in Milwauke. Didn't they
Speaker 1: play there in eighty nine because they played the play
Speaker 1: that was green bambo Okay? Yeah, you want to hear
Speaker 1: a funny story about ninety one? Mm hmm, so wow,
Speaker 1: two funny stories in one mixture segment. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how well they first. I don't know
Speaker 1: how well this was known. But at the time, just
Speaker 1: at the times, Harold Skip Bayliss and Frank luxA didn't
Speaker 1: get along whatsoever. They were like, oh imagine that everyone
Speaker 1: got along with luxA so so at night. So when
Speaker 1: we went when we went to Milwaukee that year, we
Speaker 1: stayed in some weird hotel and they didn't have enough room.
Speaker 1: So they told us ahead of time we were gonna
Speaker 1: have to double up, right, all the media when they
Speaker 1: got the room they had. They had Frank and Skip
Speaker 1: at the same room. Perfect, perfect, perfect. And when I
Speaker 1: got there and I saw the roster, I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to change this. Did they change it? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: come on, why would you have perfection? I used to
Speaker 1: have to referee at that at the after the game,
Speaker 1: like what everybody's gonna write? And I was supposed to
Speaker 1: call into the sports nitor and say, Okay, Frank's doing
Speaker 1: this and the Skips doing this. So I'd ask one
Speaker 1: of them, was Okay, what do you guys got in one?
Speaker 1: One go I don't know what the other guy's got.
Speaker 1: I said, let me find out. So I'd ask the
Speaker 1: other guy and they go, well, what's the other guy? Guy?
Speaker 1: I said, I'd give just do what you want. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: all right? So Romo one at Green Bay in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Everson. Who's the only other Cowboys quarterback
Speaker 1: to win at Green Bay? No? No, no, no, Romo
Speaker 1: was the first at lambeau Field. It's pretty easy question. No, No,
Speaker 1: Who's there's a nombal quarterback? Another quarterback at one at
Speaker 1: Green Bay lambeau Field. That would be Dak Prescott in
Speaker 1: his rookie season, remember the stretch that that is when
Speaker 1: Dak really became DAK. I thought that stretch going on
Speaker 1: the road, winning at Green Bay. The drive at the
Speaker 1: end of the first half, the thing was a ninety
Speaker 1: five yard drive at the end of the first half. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then was it the next week? I can look
Speaker 1: it up, but it was Pittsburgh. Well they won eleven, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like that game. I remember it was
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Zeke Elliott hurdling the dB right, Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: the one it was. It was several weeks later they
Speaker 1: played Pittsburgh, but was okay. So so in Deck's rookie season,
Speaker 1: all right, obviously lost the opener and then at twenty
Speaker 1: to nineteen to the Giants, and then it was wins
Speaker 1: over Washington, Chicago, San Francisco, which wasn't a good San
Speaker 1: Francisco team, Cincinnati, so he didn't really have a wind
Speaker 1: to hang your hat on yet. Well but then exactly right,
Speaker 1: and so now okay, this is okay. Now we'll see
Speaker 1: what he's got. He's going to Green Beast and won
Speaker 1: that game thirty to sixteen. Bye week, beat Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: over time the next week. Uh, and that was he
Speaker 1: was teetering a little bit there is with his footwork, remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: at that point and then big win, I mean lopsided
Speaker 1: win at Cleveland. Cleveland went any good? Now at Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: that was the win that led me. Not right, And
Speaker 1: it was at and what's the one play you remember
Speaker 1: from that game? That was the hurdle? That was That
Speaker 1: was Zeke Elliott hurdling the defensive back on the he
Speaker 1: was gonna score, but he lost his footing, No, stumbled.
Speaker 1: When did the screen passed his Zeke? Now that was
Speaker 1: right up the middle. No, no, no, not not on
Speaker 1: that play. Okay, but what did a screen pass to Zeke?
Speaker 1: And he went eighty yards down the sideline or something
Speaker 1: like that. And then they lost to the Giants. Uh,
Speaker 1: they beat Baltimore, beat Washington, one at Minnesota, and then
Speaker 1: lost to the Giants. So two of the three losses
Speaker 1: were to the Giants by like three points, one point
Speaker 1: or something, book ending the eleven game win stream. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's lost with the Giant, Sis says,
Speaker 1: And you know what he's been on the road. He
Speaker 1: still we'll talk to Dak today. But in passing on Monday,
Speaker 1: when somebody said something about what do you remember about
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen game beating the Packers up there and
Speaker 1: he said, I threw my first NFL interception. We always
Speaker 1: remember he had three touchdowns. That was his first three
Speaker 1: touchdown game. We always remember what we didn't do. It
Speaker 1: haunts us forever. Well and Dak put. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had four picks that entire season in twenty three touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: The four picks are very Aaron Rodgers like. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you look at Rodgers' career, especially the last few years,
Speaker 1: that was what was so unusual, him throwing three picks
Speaker 1: against the Lions. If you look at the last four years,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has averaged under four interceptions a season the
Speaker 1: last four years, and he had three, three in one
Speaker 1: game against the Lions who fired their secondary catch who
Speaker 1: had to be the thumb. I mean, part of it.
Speaker 1: It's got to be something wrong now, his reads. It
Speaker 1: was his reads. And they did say that that were
Speaker 1: all quarterback puntins have said those were all his fault.
Speaker 1: Those to those they were all on him. It wasn't
Speaker 1: anything about receivers running bad routes. They said there was
Speaker 1: all on him. I think one of them might have
Speaker 1: been the route, the crossing route to Gallup. I think
Speaker 1: he didn't know. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm talking about Oh
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking back. I'm sorry when you
Speaker 1: were talking. Three interceptions? Three interceptions? All right? Um? Trivia
Speaker 1: question another words ended by producer Supreme Chris Beam, who
Speaker 1: was the Green Bay packer who intercepted Dak Prescott in
Speaker 1: that game. The answer when mix shots continues in a moment,
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Speaker 1: and T Stadium. How will you do? I like seven
Speaker 1: or eight years I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about what was the first concert you ever
Speaker 1: went to? In the break and Vicky you or what?
Speaker 1: Um icn Tina Turner freshman year in college. I can't.
Speaker 1: I think I was in like cander Garden. I think
Speaker 1: I saw some puppets or some muppets or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. I was. I wasn't much older
Speaker 1: than Kindergarten Memorial Auditorium in downtown Dallas. I went to
Speaker 1: my family, our sister's family. Yeah that's that's the way
Speaker 1: it used to be back there. Yeah, that's right. Well
Speaker 1: I was seven years old. You know, lf you saw
Speaker 1: the monkeys, Monkeys Monkey. My hero growing up was Davy Jones.
Speaker 1: Did you used to watch the show on team. Of
Speaker 1: course I had a monkey's lunch box. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? And here's how stupid I was my fresh
Speaker 1: my first semester freshman year in college, I could have
Speaker 1: gone to Elton John, and I decided I needed to study, right,
Speaker 1: I couldn't go. Well, where they had it in the
Speaker 1: field house was right next door to our dorm. So
Speaker 1: I heard the whole thing through the window. And it's
Speaker 1: like I didn't study. I was just kicking myself. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you go to that? You're there anyway? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Elton John? All right. We had a trivia question prior
Speaker 1: to the break and who was the Green Bay Packer
Speaker 1: who intercepted Dak Prescott in twenty sixteen, the first pick
Speaker 1: of Dak's career. Who was it? Well, my guest was
Speaker 1: Al Harris, I guess would be wrong. I think that's wrong. No,
Speaker 1: but a Green Bay packer who became a Dallas cowboy
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas linebacker, Joe Thomas, I never would have gotten
Speaker 1: first interceptions by a linebacker. Was the ball tipped or
Speaker 1: something something like that? I'll have to ask, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Dak today. Do you remember who intercepted them?
Speaker 1: I bet you he does. He probably was reminded about
Speaker 1: it whenever Joe Thomas became a Dallas cowboy. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: all right, Um, what's on your notepad, Mickey? Well we're
Speaker 1: trying to see what else Mike McCarthy had to say today. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have much today. Questions yesterday, Monday, Monday, Monday,
Speaker 1: he cried, he's not gonna give you much anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: today is Muncarthy's birthday. Yeah, and he was u He
Speaker 1: talked about it after he basically made lip service to
Speaker 1: it during the press conference and on the walk off
Speaker 1: somebody said, so, coach, how how are you going to celebrate?
Speaker 1: And he says, well, the family's already headed to Green Bay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said that. In the said that, he said, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a peaceful day night for me. Do
Speaker 1: you know how he's celebrating. He's taping his TV show tonight.
Speaker 1: He'll be able to see the birthday celebration on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: That's what I got to do this after night, I
Speaker 1: go shopping. I'll just get him some swagger that book
Speaker 1: you didn't tell rox and he's bringing the cake. How
Speaker 1: about a bottom bottle of Belvedere. There you go. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: I will tell him this, I guess, Jimmy. He was
Speaker 1: singing Mike McCarthy's praises when I interviewed him yesterday. Thinks
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has done is a primary reason that the
Speaker 1: cowboys are doing what they're doing right now. I agree
Speaker 1: with that. Well, you ought to play him the video
Speaker 1: of it for he cares. Yeah, you think he would
Speaker 1: take the time. Bill would have to stand there in
Speaker 1: his face and he'll figure that he would. It's just
Speaker 1: a birthday present, all right. You just brought up the
Speaker 1: family's going up there and everything. Just how much How
Speaker 1: quickly did that family circle this game by their family calendar?
Speaker 1: How how quickly did the people in Green Bay circle
Speaker 1: it too. Mike McCarthy's coming to time at the time
Speaker 1: they would fire up about it. I like not so much.
Speaker 1: I liked his answer when they asked him about McCarthy
Speaker 1: way if he'd take a stroll down it, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see if it's still there. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: very cool. With lambart Lamar party and Home Germ probably
Speaker 1: all night one. And those were the other two guys
Speaker 1: that had the longest tenure other than Curly Lambeaux, So
Speaker 1: Mike second thirteen years and Curly was nineteen twenty one
Speaker 1: to like forty nine nine. Do we have any type
Speaker 1: of like Landry or stole Back a freeway that runs
Speaker 1: through Arlington called Valley at this facility here, like, we
Speaker 1: don't have there's no. Well they have said they have
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame or the Ring of Honor. Of course, yes,
Speaker 1: they've got. They over Valley Ranch. Every street over there
Speaker 1: in Valley Range was named after a cowboy, remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're not in Valley Vans. I mean, I wonder
Speaker 1: if there's I wonder if they've taken those signs now, No,
Speaker 1: they're still there. I figured there were streets. I mean
Speaker 1: their streets are named that, Yeah, and then they built them.
Speaker 1: So the White House, what's called the satire, what's called
Speaker 1: what was the name? I know who's whose unfortunate name
Speaker 1: was was on that one? That's crazy? It was it
Speaker 1: was a live guy. It was playmaker Way. It wasn't
Speaker 1: playmaker players players plays for some reason Dorsets sticking out
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm not sure for sure, but put
Speaker 1: it on him. They extended that with the housing project
Speaker 1: that they developed where the Valley Ranch was. Okay, there's
Speaker 1: more names for the streets. Yeah, nice, Yeah, and um,
Speaker 1: McCarthy Way intersects Homegren Way. They're in Green Bay. Cool.
Speaker 1: So we need to get a picture of that this weekend.
Speaker 1: So will the team bust go down Mike McCarthy Way
Speaker 1: on the way of the stadium. They're gonna have to. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure i'd make a detail. I don't know
Speaker 1: sure what the route is. Yeah, I don't know where
Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy Way is. Somewhere around lambeau Field. All right,
Speaker 1: So you've been to Lambo, yes, right? What makes lambeau
Speaker 1: Field sp I've never been to lambou Field. The only
Speaker 1: time that I covered a Cowboys Packers game there was
Speaker 1: a county stadium in Milwaukee, and so I have never
Speaker 1: been to lambeau Field. What can you tell people out
Speaker 1: there what makes lambeau Field special? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of a neighborhood. And when you
Speaker 1: when we would come in from Appleton, where we normally
Speaker 1: would stay on the bus, it was coming down these
Speaker 1: basically neighborhood streets too. One way this way, one way
Speaker 1: that way. If an air comes this big bus, right,
Speaker 1: and unlike Washington, d C. People would be out there
Speaker 1: on their porche waving at the buses, not giving us
Speaker 1: the fingers. Just me yeah, yeah, oh yeah, they gave
Speaker 1: it to me a lot everybody. Yeah. And until they
Speaker 1: moved out of RFK, but there were still a way
Speaker 1: to get to the new stadium. Uh. For the it
Speaker 1: was the Redskins. Uh. You had to go through this
Speaker 1: neighborhood to getting to get to the road to get
Speaker 1: out to FedEx Field. Uh. And people would be just
Speaker 1: waking up, especially for those one o'clock games, and the
Speaker 1: early bus would come through at about nine thirty. People
Speaker 1: would be in their pajamas outside and had the CAG already.
Speaker 1: Well I don't know if they had. They didn't even
Speaker 1: need a CAG to give you the thing's right. Well,
Speaker 1: but it's Wisconsin, but day so yeah yeah, but in Wisconsin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In in Green Bay, it was kind of a welcoming thing,
Speaker 1: like they were bringing in the new team and it's
Speaker 1: it's uh it's a publicly owned still. Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of a cool thing. You could I've got a friend
Speaker 1: that bought interest or whatever got so he could get
Speaker 1: the get the plaque to put up in earth, the
Speaker 1: certificate to put up in his house. He was a
Speaker 1: big Packer fan. He grew up in Upper the Upper
Speaker 1: Peninsula of Michigan. Um the field it the stadium's changed
Speaker 1: because they updated it to add more seats, more suites, boxes,
Speaker 1: things like that, but it's just big bowl and as
Speaker 1: I remember, and unless it's chained, the majority of the
Speaker 1: seats are still benches like high school. The answer to
Speaker 1: your question, Bill, there is nothing special. I mean that's
Speaker 1: he's trying to make it sound special, but it's really
Speaker 1: not special. That's where you play. It's unique. Is unique,
Speaker 1: it's where you played to special. Then that's that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's think about how cold when it gets cold there
Speaker 1: and you got to sit on those even less special
Speaker 1: metal bleaches, even less special. No, that's not it's like
Speaker 1: going to a high school track meet. But it's so
Speaker 1: you men, it's cool looking though it does. I just
Speaker 1: called it up on the map here It does lead
Speaker 1: to lambeau Field. They could go down Mike McCarthy way.
Speaker 1: It's got a bath. Well you got it on your phone,
Speaker 1: don't you have the map? I know, I know, And
Speaker 1: there is Mike McCarthy Way runs right alongside lambeau Field.
Speaker 1: You got right by the Don Hudson Center. You have
Speaker 1: map apps, map app you can go buy and does
Speaker 1: sports on the way. Why can't I just go GPS?
Speaker 1: I'd be good with that. Well, it's it's Google Maps, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like a GPS. Yeah, old people, will I tell
Speaker 1: you if you left here right now, it would take
Speaker 1: you sixteen hours and six minutes. Only old people would give.
Speaker 1: So what they tried there on my map back what
Speaker 1: they built around when they upgraded and they built their
Speaker 1: practice facility there, and they also built their museum there too,
Speaker 1: so it's a packer museum. You can go through um.
Speaker 1: When I was probably junior high high school, maybe one
Speaker 1: of my best friends, his parents had a cabin north
Speaker 1: of Green Bay, so we would drive up there in
Speaker 1: the summer once and you had to go right through
Speaker 1: downtown Green Bay and there was their old museum right
Speaker 1: there right And he was a packer fan. I was
Speaker 1: a packer fan. And his dad would never stop because
Speaker 1: he had time that he had to make right from
Speaker 1: home to this cabin had to be within certain odd
Speaker 1: hours and we can't dilly dally around, right, So one
Speaker 1: year when we were older were able to drive up
Speaker 1: there ourselves, and so we went through downtown. It's like,
Speaker 1: by god, we're stopping. We go in there. I still
Speaker 1: have a small eight millimeter film reel of one of
Speaker 1: their highlights of one season. I bought it when we
Speaker 1: went in there, and it was pretty cool. They had
Speaker 1: all this neat stuff. But they had a film room
Speaker 1: where we went in there and they would play the
Speaker 1: highlight films from this season, that season, this game that
Speaker 1: gave you no no. I bought something, but this was.
Speaker 1: They had a projector and they kept showing it to us, right,
Speaker 1: and so we were in there for an hour watching
Speaker 1: this stuff. Finally the guy came out of the projection room.
Speaker 1: He goes, all right, you guys, which game do you
Speaker 1: want to see? Eddie put it on for us. We
Speaker 1: must have spent an hour and a half two hours
Speaker 1: in the film room watching. We were looking at the
Speaker 1: real Green Bay pack of fan Huh, that's right. Do
Speaker 1: you we like lambeau Field better or Fenway Park better?
Speaker 1: I had a tie to lambeau more than the other two.
Speaker 1: I've been to Fenway a couple of times, Wrigley a
Speaker 1: couple well, so if you were to recommend to I
Speaker 1: couldn't like all right, So it was you were to
Speaker 1: recommend dead weeds on someone on someone's bucket list. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you were to recommend if they were asking you,
Speaker 1: should I go to Fenway or Lambeau? Where should I go?
Speaker 1: You gotta go to Lambeau and not Chris. What about
Speaker 1: comis Yeah, oh that was my spot, but I went
Speaker 1: there's a southside and then they tore it down. Oh
Speaker 1: it still breaks my heart that there's a parking lot
Speaker 1: there and the new stadium. You know what, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I told you guys. When I went to
Speaker 1: Columbia this past week and flew into Kansas City and
Speaker 1: I went to the Negro Baseball League Hall in this museum. Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. But they took all my money. I
Speaker 1: bought stuff with my dad, but some of the things
Speaker 1: I was watching. And they played games at Comiskey Park
Speaker 1: and it kind of reminded me what the old stadium
Speaker 1: looked or the old park looked like without the center
Speaker 1: field that they developed over years. But there it was.
Speaker 1: They played one of their first playoff games at Comiskey Park.
Speaker 1: That was an unbelievable music. I felt like I stole,
Speaker 1: only paying ten dollars to get in the next day
Speaker 1: is the jazz music? Yeah? Where they didn't have time
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, you should take it out. I got
Speaker 1: I got a picture standing next to that statue of
Speaker 1: Satchel Page. It's amazing. It's amazing. Hey, you have to click, guys,
Speaker 1: pick the clicks. We gotta get out of here. No,
Speaker 1: it's not first I'm ready seizing ahead to Friday. We'll
Speaker 1: have picks to click on Friday. Here are you standing
Speaker 1: us up? You're not going to be here tomorrow. Be
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