WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Ground Covered 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.960 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:13.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.200 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.479 official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:29.240 and Nicky Spagnola. So there's a reference to Everson Walls 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:34.080 on page seventy eight and seventy nine. That's all I get. Swagger, 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.520 that's all I get get. Like a couple of citizens 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:43.360 on the page, Mix Shot Son, Hey, what day is this? 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.519 This is a Thursday? There it is. It's a copy. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.320 It's not autographed, but it's for you. Everson. Who is 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:53.760 Dave Hyde. He's a Miami sportswriter. He was a sportswriter 0:00:53.920 --> 0:01:00.720 for the Miami Harold's Newspaper. Yeah, it was either Miami 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:07.720 or well then I'll take it. No, that is not 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.080 for anyone. That's for Bill alone. All Right, we are 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.679 inside the s BBC podcast studio. It's a Thursday, and 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.760 the Cowboys on the practice field and Mickey Spagnola arrived 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.040 just in the nick of time for his own mick 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.399 of time. That I was a nick of time. That's good. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.479 I liked it I was on I was on Dez 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.120 Bryant time. Yeah. And the reason you any good reasons 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:35.160 because you're watching practice. Yes, funny story. If you're on time, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.720 I was late. If you're on time, no late for this. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.600 I was already prepared. Right in uh twenty fourteen, when 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.360 we were going to London, we were leaving the buses 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.520 at the ranch at four o'clock for the plane, and 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.760 here comes Daz three fifty eight into the parking lot 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.760 and he had to go through security and basically walked 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:01.280 out right around four o'clock. Right. So, the first day 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.880 we were there, I plugged in my laptop and it 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:09.200 shorted out my power thing to the laptop, so I 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:15.679 had to kind of steal power from other people's connection, right. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.560 And so I'm in the in the kind of common 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.079 area where they were working in the hallways in that hotel, 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.080 and we were supposed to leave at eleven thirty, and 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.480 I was eleven twenty five, and I was stealing power, right, 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.440 And I get a phone call and it's brought us, 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.360 and he goes, hey, you come into practice. I go yeah, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.000 and he goes, well, eleven thirty it's leaving. I go, well, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.079 it's eleven twenty five, and he goes, well, you better 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.320 get here. And just when I was saying I'm on 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.280 Dez Bryant time, Jason Garrett comes walking down the hallway 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:56.920 and I said, eleven thirty means eleven thirty, And I 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.840 cracked him up because he knew what almost happened. Right, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.520 hey man, when you overseas things, so noon is noon, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.520 that's right, that's right. I'm here and they And the 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.960 reason that you walked in almost late but not late 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.680 is because you're out of the practice field watching practice 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:19.080 and they are practicing. I can tell you that Zeke 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:24.760 was going through his normal um resistant cord drills with 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.720 Britt Brown along with Michael Gallup who continues to do 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:33.480 them just as a warm up, and Zeke was moving well. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.880 And from all I can tell is, you know when 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.960 they when they give out the injury port, which, by 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.560 the way, I have it here, which is two pages 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.200 for the packers this week. Yeah, when they say limited, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.320 they don't mean limited physically, they mean limited in how 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.040 many snaps you take. Okay, so Zeke took snaps, so yeah, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.800 so if he just worked on the side, he would 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:02.000 have d and he didn't participate right, But so he 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:09.720 did some stuff and so did Norah Brown. Absolutely, and uh, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.760 you know when I see him out there when they 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.280 get done doing that stuff, Uh, they're running pretty well. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.280 So I think that bodes well for going for I 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.520 think the only guy that's in jeopardy is uh Anthony Brown, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.760 Athony bar excuse me, um. He didn't practice and I 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.480 was told after the injury that it looked pretty iffy 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.520 for a guy that's thirty. And it's a hamstring and 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.839 you never know how long those things are gonna last. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:41.040 So I would think he's the guy in jeopardy. As 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.760 a matter of fact, when Mike answered the question today 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.520 in the press conference, he said, at best he would 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:52.039 be limited today. So I think that is not gonna happen. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.920 And the question was posed about him Anthony Barrn of course, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.479 his history of playing against the Packers, and it was 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.560 kind of a couched in if he if he can 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.240 get back, he'd love to get back for this game. 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.240 Yeah it's Green Bay. Well, don't you know the game 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:15.680 he really wants to get back for next week? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.680 And I thought he had a good answer and it 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.320 made sense, logical sense. On James Washington about how they're 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.600 going to practice next week pulling back for Thanksgiving, that 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.640 there was no sense starting him this week and then 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.600 not getting much practice the next week, and then the 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.520 third week all you would get is kind of a day, 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.640 not really a full practice. So they're going to start 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.600 him later because of the schedule, not because of his 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:47.200 physical status. So he would start later, maybe next week, okay, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:52.680 and then he would get that week somewhat the next week, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.400 and then he would get a full week of practice 0:05:55.480 --> 0:06:01.880 going into Who's after Thanksgiving Indianapolis Indianapolis, he would get 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.080 a full we get the mini buy and then because 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.960 that is not a Thursday game like we've had recently, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.920 we don't get the three in ten days. Yeah, well 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.560 we got three in twelve days here, but but here 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.000 recently we've been playing a second Thursday game after the 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.640 Thanksgiving game. We're not doing that this time. It's a 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.400 Sunday game. So you get two in ten days basically 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.600 because of Thanksgiving. But at least you get all that 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.080 time afterwards. Fair. The other Thursday game is after Christmas 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.200 this year, and that's the reason, because the whole right Christmas, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.920 they play and and and they play Saturday and then yeah, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.480 it's not even a day, but Sunday Thursday, if you can. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.560 It's actually caught a break their Christmas. Yeah, they did well. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.880 Now now I heard that we we could be playing 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.600 on Christmas Day. No, it's not gonna happen, right, not 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:56.239 gonna happen. I don't think. No, they don't. The word 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.920 I've heard is that Philadelphia will stay on Christmas Eve. Okay, yeah, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:04.000 no matter how, hold me to it. But that's a 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.320 little no matter what, no matter how. But Bill mentioned, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.560 Bill mentioned the Packers, and they've got seventeen guys on 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:18.880 their injury port and only one is full, which is 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:23.240 Christian Watson with the concussion. We'll see how full it 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.000 is going on any of them. Offensive lineman. Uh David 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:34.720 Baktahari did not practice with a knee. Um. They they're 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.240 wide receiver. I believe he's starting now. Romano Dobbs, he's out. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.240 He's out right, and they listen, he's not. He's had. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.160 They have not put him on any reserve. He's got, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.200 he's DNP. But we've read that he is out. Aaron 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.840 Jones is limited with an ankle. Lazard is limited with 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:58.320 a shoulder. Uh. So the runt end um. Sammy Watkins 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.720 with a knee did not practice, and I think those 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:05.160 are what they have on Christian Watson full concussion, so 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.160 because he because the concussion that Watson suffer was actually 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.720 the previous week and then he got banged up and 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.320 I think, in fact it was what I heard it was. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.480 He just got the breath knocked out of it. He 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.400 got checked as if it was a a concussion, right, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.560 and they and they cleared him. Yeah. Oh, and John 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:29.040 running their their guard was limited also. And so I'm 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.200 worried about the offensive lineman because we talked yesterday after 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.800 after we signed off about how good they are on 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.600 the running game right, and you know, I'm looking at 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.840 all problems that could occur, especially while you're on the road. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.480 That's something you don't want to be prevalent against your defense, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.920 is their ability to run the ball, control the clock right, 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.800 and the tempo of the ball game that that's not 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.240 what we want. And then they also picked up Jonathan Abrams. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.839 The Raiders let them go their former first round pick 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.800 in twenty nineteen safety safety. Yes, that's what I thought. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.960 We got Waive that only played thirty six games for him. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.319 So Packers were a little short in the secondary, so 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.720 they picked him up too. But yeah, they've got uh 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.920 sixteen guys listed as limited or did not practice, and 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.520 uh ten of the guys did not practice, so they 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:27.000 they've got some some problems from ran on us extremely well. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.280 If I'm not mistaken, the head three backup offensive linemen 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.800 in that game, am I correct? It was? It was 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.360 off to look back at it, but it was something 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.400 like it was in too yeah. Yeah. And then in 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.120 Chicago they have all these mid round draft pick offensive 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.480 linemen on their team and it's been makeshift as it goes, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.400 so to say that their backups they might actually be 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:55.920 the guys that should be the should have been the 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.480 starters all along, you know. And so right, either way, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.959 you had we had a group that was kind of 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.320 glued and pasted together that was still pretty effective against us. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.280 And by the way, one of those did not practice. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:16.160 Aaron Rodgers. Guess what a right thumb. He's been bothered 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.120 by it for a while now, right, and I think 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.600 he was protecting it this last game. He was having 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.760 some problems. He has been throwing into offensive linemen. Yeah, 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.319 and that one of his passes have been knocked down. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.040 That was the especially against One of the interceptions this 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.760 past Sunday was he hit somebody off the defensive lineman 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.800 and the defensive against the Giants, he did it twice right, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.559 the last two passes that really would have counted. So 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.760 they've got some things that they got to deal with. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.520 We need to march off in there and just take 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.160 care of business and take out buzz by Band and 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.920 right from the start, don't let him hang around. That's right. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.360 Don't turn the ball over and give him something sheet No, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.520 And that's that's including start in the second half. Yeah, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.480 you know, no, no, no, nobody prieve at all. Just 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.800 go in there with the hammer this is and then 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.520 just do it for a coach. That made me think 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.400 of one of those political commercials where they were knocking 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.240 down the wall. Right, it's like going there with the 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.360 hammer and knock them down, knock out the wall. Do 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.520 you want to hear a funny story? Last night Funny 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:21.559 Cross Talk, Timmy Newsom was our guest. Nate was there, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.760 and I was doing some research on Timmy played with 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:29.720 the Cowboys from eighty through eighty eight, and I read 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.240 something and I didn't remember it from eighty six, but 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.000 when that was when they got Herschel walker right, and 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.920 it said that at one point in eighty six, Landry 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.120 set them up in a full house backfield. It was 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.439 Herschel to one side, Timody the other side, and then 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.160 Dorsett was behind him. And so we briefly talked about it. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.200 We get off the air and Nate goes, oh, Timmy, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.760 I thought you were gonna say Herschel was playing on 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:03.520 the right wing. I said, okay, line of the night. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.240 And you did it when we were break nye the 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.920 want Cause too Much trouble? Yeah, right, that the name 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.880 we saw yesterday. That's the Nathan Theate likes to be right, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.920 and everybody loved it. I was on Twitter, man, they 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.959 said that was probably our best show. Well, we tweeted 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.839 it out to Douglas, tweeted out the clip yeah of 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.880 course and the cow bite yes, and that when the 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.120 response to it was several of them like that was 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.199 our best show. It's a damn shame is our best 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.559 show when he's not even part of our Okay, uh, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.800 real quick? And because I mentioned it off the top, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.200 what I would like to get into in the next segment? 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:44.520 Did you listen to Aaron Rodgers yesterday I heard excerpts. Okay, 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.560 he and his relationship with McCarthy, and it was really good. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:54.400 Was his regular locker room UM Weekly interview with the 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.840 press up there. But before I do that, before next segment, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.160 let me because I know you're curious, Everson, what Jimmy 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.880 wrote about you in his book. So I'm just gonna 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:12.040 paraphrase here from the UM because I am. I'm gonna 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.240 give you this as a gift after I read it. Okay, okay, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.960 after you after I have to read the book first. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.559 It's gonna make me buy it. Yeah, your name's not 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.960 in it, not at all, not at all. All right, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:32.559 So we're talking about Everson Walls was beaten for a 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:39.400 seventy two yard touchdown. I guess he falls still doesn't 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.760 know how the coach defense minute to play that dropped 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.240 us to one and nine. While trudging off the field, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.199 I saw Walls joking with that winning receiver. That is 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.920 not true either. It was not Ernie Jones was the 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.760 one that scored the touchdown. What Green was? Who I 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.880 was talking to? Everson? What is going on here? I yelled, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:02.320 get your blank in h in the locker room. Yeah, okay, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.760 that's true. That's true. Okay, that part's true. Walls looked 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.319 at me, what's the big deal. We'd already lost eight 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:14.959 of them. We're not going to the playoffs, he said, Okay, Walls, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.360 here's what Jimmy says. Walls wasn't a bad guy, nor 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.680 was he a bad player. He went on to help 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.200 thanks New York Giants. Wow, he didn't say you were 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:32.160 a good good those guys to help the New York 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.800 Giants win a super Bowl. But he was a bad 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.720 fit for our rebuilding program in Dallas. That's the first 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:43.000 step for eddy losing organization, recognizing and ridding yourself of 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.200 the bad people, are wrong players. Walls represented the losing 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.960 culture I had to change. He wasn't around the next scene. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.720 That's funny. Round one. 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Aaron Rodgers at 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.879 this point, coming off the seasons that he's had. You know, 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.960 he turns thirty nine in early December. December second, I think, yes, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.760 he turns thirty nine years old, back to back MVP seasons. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.280 And you're gonna say, wish a happy birthday to someone 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:42.720 to Mike McCarthy turning fifty nine today. Wow, isn't that nice? Scobio, 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.120 I'm not sure. Yeah, sco my wife's on the fifth 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.560 so okay, Reddy mc, I only know when Sagittarius, yeah, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:57.920 cap Cory, Right, okay, I'm a Gemini and anyway, wait, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:03.760 you are, Jim and I am twin twin sister Mom. Yeah, wow, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.360 it's crazy about that. And I'm a Gemini. That's right, man, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.960 that's weird. That is weird. That's what me and Bill 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.320 have them coming. What you're a gemini too, I'm a twin. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.760 He's a twin. Well yeah, but you're not a Gemini. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.800 You're not a twin by twin sign. You see what 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:29.000 I'm saying. You're just a twin. You're not astrologic. He 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.960 covers a whole gamut. Man. That's sorry, sorry, really that 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:38.960 was congratulations though a twin. Um. All right. So, so 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.600 Aaron Rodgers turns thirty nine next month. Mike McCarthy turned 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:49.440 fifty nine today. But I thought it was very enlightening 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.800 to hear Aaron Rodgers yesterday at his locker talking on 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.720 and on about his relationship with Mike McCarthy and how 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.640 close of relationship they have. I mean, you can only 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.760 assume during the time, but even but he bet he 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.840 has says that it has grown uh stronger here in 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.400 the last It sounded like maybe even in the last 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.800 year or so, Yeah, because he's not there, uh not, 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:18.120 it was more so because relationship, maybe because the relationship 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.960 as personal not football. Because when he came to football. 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.280 They they rumored that that was one reason he left, 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.280 was because they couldn't get along. It's already been rumored 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.720 he's having problems from football wise with Matt Lafour. Well, yeah, 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.920 I said wise, he has problems with everybody. He's a 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:42.760 critical thinker. I like that. And there's many many uses 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.480 of the world critical, right, And it sounded like that 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.920 they reached out to each other here in the last 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:55.080 year or so, and so they've contacted each through texting 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:59.439 or calls or whatever and so and Aaron's point, audit 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:05.080 was that now that there's some distance between, he appreciates 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.840 even more now what McCarthy did for him in his career. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.480 And there's a sin more of a as time passes, 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.920 there's more of us since the gratitude and he's seen it. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.760 He's with another coach now and he wasn't going to 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:21.320 compare how it is playing for McCarthy had nothing compared 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.880 to right and coming into the league. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.160 all he had was what at cal Tell oh five 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:31.560 he was there with Mike Sherman, Sherman's last year. Yeah, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.280 And McCarthy got there at O six because and and 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.680 there was still a little bitterness because when McCarthy was, 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.679 you know, five in San Francisco, they didn't draft him. 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.879 They drafted Alex Smith number one overall pick, right, and 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.119 I think that's still stuck in his cross well. And 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.400 then Rogers slid all the way to up to twenty five. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:56.960 Yeah teams then, yeah, he was twenty fourth pick, twenty 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.800 fourth pick of the old That's why he's been tearned 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.879 up like that. He's been Randy Moss right. Nineteen teams 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:04.520 passed on him, but the only one he held a 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:09.280 grudge again, the Cowboys. By the way, listen, think about this. 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.880 I look at the old five draft, Bill parcels here, 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.240 the old five draft of the Cowboys took to Marcus 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:22.879 Ware at eleven and Marcus Spears at twenty, and he didn't. 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:28.320 Aaron Rodgers went twenty four in that draft. Oh so, actually, 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.680 had they decided that Aaron Rodgers was going to be 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.440 Aaron Rodgers, they could have taken him even at the 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.040 twentieth hit there with their second first drouft. But Bill, 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.400 but Bill knew that Tony Romo was on to come. Yeah, 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.480 and we were still a year and a half away 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:49.119 from Tony Romo. Ever, playing in a game which was 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.960 still too soon for Bill Parcels. Yeah yeah, but so 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.000 so then, so this is what would have happened then 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:01.920 if the Cowboys had taken Aaron Rodgers. Okay, if the 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.480 Cowboys had taken Aaron Rodgers in the first round of 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:10.600 the O five, what would have happened to Tony Romo? 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.840 He would have been let go and where would he 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:18.040 have wound up with that Green Bay Packers. He may 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.560 not have made it anywhere. He would have gone back 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.880 home to Wisconsin's signed as a free agent. He would 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:30.119 have been the local Bill Jones back to Wisconsin. Wow, 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.760 and you realize Romo was the first Cowboy quarterback to 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:38.520 win a game at lambeau Field two thousand and eight. Man, 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.560 I wish he could could have gotten what's that media gain? 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.480 I wish he could have gotten another one. He's gonna 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.879 check me, But no, no, I believe you. I was 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.639 just trying to think of, Wow, how many games? What 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.160 was their Cowboys record? Well, currently they're two and nine 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.400 at lambeau Field. Now there were some games in Milwaukee. 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.920 Oh yeah, that's right. Um. But Tom Landry never beat 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:08.080 Lombardy except yes, he did in the preseason get out. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.520 The reason I bringed that up. You and I went 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.240 back at one point and looked in the archives the 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:19.040 old newspaper articles they had at Valley Ranch, Okay, and 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:24.440 it was unbelievable the amount of media attention back in 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.320 the sixties that they gave to the preseason gamess and 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.760 the and the Cowboys didn't sell out any games in 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.160 the regular season back then, but when the Packers came 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.399 to town in the preseason, they were sellouts, baby, because 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.840 they were champions. Yeah, it's the super Bowl or not 0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:44.520 the Super Bowl that the NFL champion Green Bay Packers 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.480 sixty one. I think it has a lot to do 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.239 with the matchup of the coaches as well, sixty one 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:53.280 and sixty two. Even even then they were they well, 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:57.880 they were assistants together with the Giants. Well, Landry wasn't 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.879 a legend then, No, No, Lombardi wasn't either. He was 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:05.680 gonna be well because he turned around the Packers in 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:09.600 like two years, right or three the third season. All right, 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:14.600 so the Cowboys won. The Cowboys wins over the Packers 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.000 on the road were in Milwaukee. They beat him in 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:25.399 Milwaukee in nineteen seventy eight, nineteen eighty nineteen ninety one. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:30.760 I was at that one. Uh and when did they 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.000 in two thousand and eight? What was the other time 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:39.439 they played in Milwaukee? Ninety well, nineteen sixty five they 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.639