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I am your favorite UNC 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp, and my partner and co hosts as normal 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: joins me every time we do Nightcap. He's Liberty City's 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, a former pro bowler 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and an All Pro. He's Chad O Chosenko Johnson and 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: the third member of the Big Three that joins us 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Hopefully we can get him a little bit 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: more once basketball season kicks off. Little Rock, Arkansas Native 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Universe Arkansas alum, seven time All Star. Here he is, 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, mister Ice, Oh, Joe Johnson, Joe, how 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: you doing tonight? 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We have Alisia Bumgardner joining us 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: a little bit later, but first we start with basketball. 72 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: But before we get into that, we want to thank 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: each and every one of you. Today we find out 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: in the YouTube rankings we're the number thirteen podcasts, not 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: just of sports, but of all things, all the there 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: are over five hundred different podcasts that's on YouTube. 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: Will number thirteen? Five? 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Ok, five, they're five thousands. There are thousands of podcasts 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: on YouTube. 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: Wait, number thirteen. 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: We're the number one sports podcast of all the people 82 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: that do sports. Yeah, we're number one on YouTube of 83 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: all the people that do sports. We don't need to 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: call no name, we don't need to HiPE ourselves up, 85 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: but try to talk down to someone else. But I'm 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: just saying this is only because of you, because none 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: of this is possible without you. All the things that 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I've been through and oh Joe still by men, Joe 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: came back and joined us. All of this is because 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: of you, and I personally can't thank you enough. What 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you want to say with Joe, Wait a. 92 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: Minute, I'm listening to the numbers. The numbers is astonishing. 93 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: Now we barely into that in our second year. Now 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: we talk about thousands of thousands and thousands of other podcasts, 95 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: many that have started before us, and the fact that 96 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: we're thirteen that's tremendous. 97 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 5: That is an amazing accomplishment. 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: And obviously our success is all because of you that 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: continue to watch and support us. Y'all of the meat 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: and potatoes to why this thing is going the way 101 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: it is. And I want to thank you from the 102 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: goodness and the greatness of my heart and and and 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 4: and what we just started. And we're gonna get to 104 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: that number one spot. 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: We're gonna were gonna get there, that's our goal. 106 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: You know. 107 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: Joe came on with us last year and uh to 108 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: do basketball, and he came back with us again this year. 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: So we want to thank Joe for being a part 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: of this. And uh uh A lot of people were 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: trying to get Joe, but Joe, he was looking for 112 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: the right situation, some way be himself, be comfortable and 113 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: talk about not only basketball, but he wanted to talk 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: about other topics as well. So we think Joe is 115 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the perfect fit for Nightcap to be a big three 116 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: that's on Wednesday night, and as I said, as we 117 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: move into the new year, hopefully Joe did want to 118 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: come on for an extra night. 119 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: But we'll see how that pans out. 120 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all you guys that's watching, that's listening, that 121 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: spread us, that spread Nightcap the word of mouth. Oh 122 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: Joe and I and Joe want to personally thank you 123 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: for your support and you'll continue support. But first we 124 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: got to start with some basketball. Joe Rich Paul time 125 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Clippers, and I guess they say 126 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: the second time is not better than the first time. 127 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Paul sent home by the franchise late last night, in 128 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: the middle of a five game road trip CP three 129 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: rode on Ig just found out I'm being sent home. 130 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: The Clippers then are now saying that they had released Paul, 131 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: saying Chris is a legendary Clipper and had a historic career. 132 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: But I want to make one thing very clear. No 133 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: one is blaming Chris Paul for our underperformance. I accept 134 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: responsibility for the record we have right now, and there 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: are a lot of reasons why we've struggled. We're grateful 136 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: for the impact Chris has made on this franchise. According 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: to Shams, chris leadership style clash with the team and 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: he had not spoken to ty Lou for several weeks. 139 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Per Chris Haynes, Chris Paul requested a meeting with Lou 140 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: to discuss perception he was a negative presence on the team, 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and Lou refused to meet. Joe, having played seventeen years 142 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: in the NBA, had been one of the leaders at 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot of different places. What do you deduce what happened? 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: And how did what seemed promising the second time around? 145 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: How did it go so bad so quickly? Well, Uncle Ocho, 146 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: sounds like to me. I played with obviously, I played 147 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: with toront Luke. He was a point guard here in Atlanta. 148 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: I had a chance to play with Chris Paul in 149 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: the USA and two thousand and six, and I played 150 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: with him in Houston. That that one year with James 151 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: Harden was just unbelievable and we lost to the Warriors game. 152 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: What was that seven to the win to the finals. 153 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: So I know I know both of these guys pretty well. 154 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: Uh Chris, Chris Paul is a point guard, is very bullheaded. 155 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: You know, he is a national leader. So if he 156 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: sees something that he doesn't like or he don't think 157 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: that's that's helping the team. Man, he's obviously gonna voice that, 158 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: he's gonna say something. You know, he's just one of 159 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: those guys who can't help it. But Uncle Ocho, y'all know, 160 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: losing exposes a lot, Man, it exposes a lot. And 161 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: when you're getting your butt kicked night in and night out, 162 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: you know, I feel like you have to put the 163 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: blame on someone. And unfortunately, you know, it seems though 164 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: even though they came out with statement and said Chris 165 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: is just has nothing to do with it. You know, 166 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: his our record is why we excusing him from the team. 167 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: But it's just a bad look, man on a guy 168 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: who's already who is a Hall of Fame point guard, 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: who's already said that this is last year planned, you 170 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like, what was so 171 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: bad or egregious that he couldn't stick it out this 172 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: full year? 173 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Uh? 174 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: That's that's yet to be determined. Obviously it'll take one 175 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: of those guys to kind of speak on it. But 176 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: it just seems like an unfortunate situation. 177 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: Man losing does a bill character. It reveals character and what. 178 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Transpired, what transprit Let me tell you, Let me let 179 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: me tell you from a football perspective, and let me 180 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: know what you think. Joe, Yeah, you see, Chris Paul 181 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: has always been one of the two or three best 182 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: guys on the team. He's an All NBA selection, he's 183 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: an All DEMBIA, a defensive selection. He's one of the 184 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: top two or three point guards year and the year out. 185 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: You see, Oh, Joe and Joe, as you start to slip, 186 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: your voice is not as loud and it can't be 187 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: is loud. So things that you would normally say when 188 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: you was All NBA, you was all defensive, You could 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: go to the coach, the man, the meeting and no problem. 190 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: You see, Oh Joe, you know this. The fifty third 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: man can't get a meeting with the head coach. The 192 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: one two, three four guy can get a meeting with 193 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the head coach. And you see what transfired. Yeah, he's saying, 194 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: what's going on? But nobody wants to hear that, Chris, 195 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: because you're not the player. You can't help us get 196 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: out of what's going on. This is what I take from. 197 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: This is what I take I think happened. This thing 198 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: went awry when they gave up all those picks for 199 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: Paul George and they moved heaven and earth to get Kawhi, 200 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Leonard Kawhi had they won one championship. You see, Toronto 201 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: gave up a lot to get Kawhi. It was well 202 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: worth it because what Joe, they won a championship. You see, 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: now the Clippers are farther away from winning a championship 204 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: than when they were before they even got Kawhi. Yes, 205 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: so now we're giving up all these picks. Y'all see 206 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: what Shaye doing on a nightly basis. Not only did 207 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: it win a championship, he's Finals MVP, the league MVP. 208 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: And we had him, Joe, we had him. We had 209 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: a goose that was laying golden eggs, and we gave 210 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: him away. We made the biggest mistake, says ASoP, gave 211 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: us Kingdom away. 212 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: Four horse. 213 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: That's what happens as you get old, and it happens 214 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: to all of us. Were all not gonna have the 215 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: same ability to go speak or to go knock on 216 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: the Boston door and have a conversation with him. It 217 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: will happen to us all. And that is what happened 218 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: to Chris Paul. Chris thought he was from out from 219 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: outside looking at in chat. I haven't talked to anybody. 220 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: I have not talked to anybody. So I'm just saying 221 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: from my standpoint, yes, Chris is looking at himself. He's 222 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Chris Paul and CP three in name only, not in play. 223 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: So if you can't produce the same way, you can't 224 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: expect to have the same kind of leeweight. 225 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: You can't be that critical. 226 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Because you could be critical when he was that guy, 227 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: when he was in New Orleans or all these other 228 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: place where he's in Houston and he's a whole KC. 229 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: You could have that. Yeah, when you. 230 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: Play eight ten minutes a night, guys, you don't get 231 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: that kind of you don't get that kind of leeway. 232 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: You don't have that kind of luxury. That's what I 233 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: deduce from what happened in this situation. 234 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: A Joe and Uncle. 235 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: I'm curious obviously with Chris Paul. With Chris Paul playing 236 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: as long as he's playing, being a seasoned veteran in 237 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: the game, understanding what it takes to win. The Clippers 238 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: have had mishaps obviously with the trade, which with Shay 239 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: and other things not going right with the Kawhi trade. 240 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: Why not why not he not be able. 241 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: To express themselves and say, this is what you what 242 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: we need to do if you want to see things 243 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: go in the right direction. Why would they not listen 244 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: to him? Why would they not take heed to what 245 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: he's saying? Does management or do the people in positions 246 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: of power have that much of ego? Are they that 247 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: prideful to let someone that has put the kind of 248 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: work that Chris Paul is done in the league itself 249 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 4: and being successful Hall of fame at that they won't 250 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: even just listen. 251 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh so it sounds more like of how the message 252 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: is being delivered to me if you ask me, like, 253 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: it's a way you can still lead. Although he's coming 254 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: off the bench, he's trying to be that spark plug, 255 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: that lead off the bench. You know, he can't help, 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, to get a little emotional probably, you know, 257 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: throughout this course of the season, man, it's been a 258 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: rough patch for the Clippers early. You know what I mean. 259 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: I watched him play numerous of times, so I know 260 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: the frustration has set in. Like like I'm saying, when 261 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: emotions is high, logic is low, you know what I mean. 262 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: So they standon, had a meeting, he released the he 263 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: released the IG post at three in the morning, said 264 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: they were sending him home. From my understanding, they was 265 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: meeting up to that point. That's how long it took 266 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: for them to kind of get an understanding. So it 267 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: ain't just clear cut and dry that they just let 268 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: him go like. It was more to the situation that 269 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: obviously that'll probably never get out to the public, right, Yeah. 270 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: It was a situation, O Joe. 271 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Maybe there was certain It's hard for me to believe 272 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: this is an isolated ancident, This is a one time thing. 273 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Maybe Chris being the vocal leader everywhere he's being, was 274 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: being vocal. 275 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: Maybe he was being a little too vocal. Oh Joe, 276 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 277 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: A special Teams guy is not gonna say Marvin, I 278 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: need to talk to you, and Marvin opened his door. 279 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: That's not happening. You could do that. Carson could do that. 280 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Voluntee Burfett could do that. 281 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: MH. 282 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: You have to understand that in the pecking order, everybody 283 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: doesn't Bill Davis. Bill Davis, my college coach, told me 284 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: one time. He showed the team one time. He said, 285 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm an cheat to treat y'all all fair, but I'm 286 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: not gonna treat you the same. 287 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: Do it that a chat? Do with that what you want? 288 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, on the job, the boss might treat y'all 289 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: all fair, but some of y'all said, well, he got 290 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: favorite X, Y and Z, but they don't treat you 291 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: all the same. Kawhi get privileges. I remember Paul Jordan 292 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: even had a conversation. That's what Rob pat bailed them 293 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Them guys coming late. We got a hold. 294 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: We can't start practice, we can't take off on the bus, 295 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: we can't take off on the plane. Well, that's what 296 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: happens when you're one of the two star players. You 297 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: get listened to. When you're not the star player and 298 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: you're not even playing fifteen twenty minutes a night, it's hard. 299 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: First of all, the guys are not gonna listen to 300 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: you to save or Joe that guy that oh Joe. 301 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: How many times the special team guys said, come on, 302 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: oh Joe, let's go. You looking at him like, if 303 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: you don't sit your ass down to get out my face, 304 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what somebody told me. 305 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what I know. 306 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely he At the same time, you know, I 307 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: know CP he understands like, Okay, I got a great 308 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: relationship with James Hard and I got a good relationship 309 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: with Kawhi Leonard. He ain't if it's really something that 310 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: wrong or you know, something that's really messing with him, 311 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure he would go to them and hey, look, man, 312 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: we gotta go talk to coach. We gotta go talk 313 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: to t Lou. He'll go to James Harden, He'll go 314 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: to Kawhi. We need to go talk to t Lou 315 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: about this situation. Man, Hey, we gotta be better here. 316 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: We gotta be better that. I just can't see him 317 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: over going over James Harden and Kawhi and then just 318 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: going straight to the source being like, hey man, we 319 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: got an x y Z you know what I mean? 320 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: Like I think I think he has I know he 321 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: has more sense in that, and obviously his value and 322 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: his say so into this through those dudes, obviously it 323 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: will be heard, you know a lot better as though 324 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: it's just coming from him. So I really I'm not 325 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: sure what really got him to this point. But like 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: I said, man, I've watched him play a few times 327 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: and it hasn't been pretty. 328 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: The man getting D and p's healthy scratches. It's only 329 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: a matter of time. That is the prideful man. That 330 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: man has played twenty with twenty one NBA season, Joe, 331 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: like I said, he's a top seventy five player all time. 332 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Hut that sink in for just a second. 333 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Chat. 334 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: He's getting healthy D and PS, D and P healthy scratch, DMP, 335 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: healthy scratch, not an injury, not coaching decision, healthy stratch. 336 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: So now is telling you now, I don't, Like I said, 337 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you know, Hey, y'all need to 338 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: do this. Y'all need to do that. Man, it's kind 339 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: of hard to tell somebody something when you're not doing 340 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: it or you can't help us do it. Yeah, but 341 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: this situation is bigger than Chris Paul because the Clippers 342 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: right now, Chat and y'all know this, and everybody that's 343 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: listening to us know this. The Clippers are farther away 344 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: from winning a championship right now than when they were 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: before they got Kawhi. Kawhi injuries has helped harmed this team. 346 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Giving up all those draft picks. Do you know, Oto, 347 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: but ok see Thunder still get the clippers number one 348 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: draft pick in twenty six. Think about that, all those 349 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: picks they got, they built this roster. 350 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: They built a team that's. 351 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Set for the next decade thanks to the Clippers. Thanks 352 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: to the Clippers. 353 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, they missed. They missed big time. This is more 354 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: than miss. 355 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I can think of another word, you know, 356 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: to to definitively describe what the Clippers did when they. 357 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 5: Let Shay go. 358 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 4: And Uncle, I asked, I mean Joe, I asked Uncle 359 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: this or earlier. Most of the time, if you if 360 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: you can see you know, scouts and gms, there's there's 361 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: a there's a visual where you can tell a player 362 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 4: special because certain players look better than other players, even 363 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: if they're young and they're just coming to your team, 364 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: you can already see the promise and the potential in them. 365 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 5: So I asked, Uncle, well. 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: How the hell they even let Shake get out the 367 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 4: goddamn building anyway? When he's as special as he is, 368 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 4: You're not gonna tell me, Oh, he's with the Clippers, 369 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 4: and he's like, I you know what I think we 370 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 4: can we can do without this individual. And then all 371 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: of a sudden, he goes to Oklahoma and looks like 372 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: he does now one of the best in the league. 373 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: O Joe, Hey, Judy, maybe one depending on who you 374 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: god damn asked, based on preference on the position and 375 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 4: play you actually liked. 376 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 5: So what the hell was the Clippers looking at? 377 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: Dang, they didn't see this, bro, So this they see. 378 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: They knew he was gonna be special. They knew he 379 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: was gonna be special. But Ojo, I promise you, they 380 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: ain't see this, bro. They didn't see I'm gonna be 381 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: honest with you. I ain't see this. I thought he 382 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: was a hell of a player, right, but the mega 383 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: starring on that he's jumped himself into the consistency that 384 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: he plays with and being reliable night in and night 385 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: out with thirty plus points at night obviously, the one 386 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: championship looking like they gonna repeat. 387 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, yea man and boys twenty one and one man. 388 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: Yes, he couldn't be this. You know why he couldn't 389 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: be this because he wasn't gonna be number one with Kawhi. 390 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: You see he's the unquestioned leader in Okay. See, so 391 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: now if you bring Kawhii in, Kawhi gotta get the ball. 392 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah no, and Kawhi made it be Let it be known. 393 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: If you don't make this deal to get Paul George, 394 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to side with the Lakers and after the 395 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Davids and James, and if you're the Clipper, you cannot 396 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: allow that to happen because they already had Lebron. Now 397 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: they got another superstar and after the day was the 398 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: pair with him, and you want them to get a 399 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: third win. 400 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: Hey, and not only that, Uncle Ojo, Kawhi and Paul 401 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: George as two La kids. They are in California. So yeah, now, 402 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure they wanted to do anything they could to 403 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: make that possible because I'm sure they thought they was 404 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: gonna win the title. Now, I think with Shaye, with 405 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: him being traded, it put a little more often and 406 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 2: to be a better player, to be a bass leader, 407 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, Okay, they traded me, 408 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: all right, bet I'm gonna show him. So I think 409 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: a lot of that is kind of oozing him as well. 410 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: And from getting traded, bro, you learn a lot about 411 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: a lot of people, and not only that yourself. I 412 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: think that that helped catapult him into a start. But 413 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: he's like, all right, every I'm gonna continue to get 414 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: better and better and better next year, you know, not 415 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: the MVP. Now we don't won the championship. Now he's 416 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: working on our second one. You just you don't. You 417 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: never know how things play out. If he's stay in 418 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: LA you know, if he's complacent, if you know what 419 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean. It's just so many different variables that come 420 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: in that come into play. It's like, bro, ain't no 421 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: way y'all could have seen his man, know. 422 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: He could, he wouldn't have been what he is because 423 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have had the ball like he does. 424 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: He has the ball. 425 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you're gonna bring kawhii 426 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: and give him all of that, make all those concessions, 427 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: and you think you're gonna turn that ball over to 428 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: somebody else. It's not gonna happen. It's not nah, And 429 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: so now he was able to play free O Joe. 430 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Look at everybody knows who's the number one guy on 431 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: ok see Shaye Okay, jub okay chat everybody else falling 432 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: the line but there's only one. 433 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: You can't you gotta have you gotta have a pecking order. 434 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: You know. 435 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: That was kind of what happened in Okay. See wasn't 436 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: a Joe. Yeah with Kevin Durant in russ You see 437 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, now you have no issue O Joe 438 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: saying no. I was like, look here if like your 439 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: girls said, look, you know, you know there's a possibility, 440 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: she said. But if you don't do what I asked, 441 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I want moving me in. I'm moving in with him 442 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: and we right next door to you. That's what the 443 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: Clippers was under the gun. 444 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: O Joe. 445 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: What choice did they have? You got Lebron James, you 446 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: got the biggest name in the NBA, with the biggest 447 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: franchise in the NBA, and they just got Anthony Davis. 448 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: So now you have no choice to give him everything 449 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: that he's asking for. I want this, I want that, 450 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I want this, Okay, okay, And if you don't, he 451 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: told him plat out. It's being reported that he told 452 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: him plat out. If you don't get Paul George, I'm 453 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: going with the Lakers. 454 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's crazy. Crazy. 455 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Now he got hurt. They got to the getting to 456 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: the championship game, he get hurt. You remember that the game? Oh, Shoe, 457 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: what what I mean, Joe? They beat Utah if they got, 458 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: if they got and then they have Remember that first 459 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: game against Phi Kawhi goes, Hey, why you get hurt. 460 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: In that series? That's the only reason why they lost 461 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: that series. I think if he wouldn't have got hurt 462 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: in that Phoenix because Phoenix went on to the finals. 463 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: They year, Yes, if they ended up losing to UH Milwaukee, 464 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: but they had a two zero lead and then lost 465 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: four straight. Yeah, but I just think, I just think 466 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: the thing is for me looking at it from the outside, 467 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: looking from outside, and I'm not inside looking out being 468 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: a player and an older player. 469 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: Uh. I give a prime example, what's going on in Pittsburgh. 470 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Gohoe and the quarterback say, guys, they ain't coming to 471 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: meeting that he called. Yeah, I'm just saying, he said, 472 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, we asked guys to come by. 473 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: Let's be critical of ourselves. 474 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 4: Right, And that's that That's that's crazy. I mean, just 475 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: just just thinking about it, what Chris Paul is accomplished. Yeah, 476 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: being a seventy being a part of that seventy five 477 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: how you said seventy. 478 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: Five diversity five greatest players play. 479 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: One of the seventy five greatest players of all time, 480 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: a definitely Hall of Famer, still doesn't have the weight 481 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: despite not being as valuable as he once was, where 482 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: his word means nothing at this point, and that's that 483 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 4: that's crazy. 484 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: I give another example. Look at Tom Brady. Tom Brady 485 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: was the oldest player in the locker room. 486 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: But what was he doing? 487 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: O Joe producing at extremely high level. Chris Paul wasn't 488 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: producing at that level to have that kind of bull 489 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: that megaphone, that megaphone voice. Yeah, you see, I'm just 490 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: telling you how it goals. Yeah, And people say, well, 491 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: what didn't know? But I was still producing at a 492 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: high level. I was still right there. I was one 493 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: or two on the team, lead in yards and catches, 494 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: so I was still producing at a high level. Chris 495 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: Paul a twelve time All Star, six times Steel Champ, 496 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: All Rookie Defensive, nine time All Defensive, seventy fifth Anniversary TINAE, 497 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: five time Assists Champ, eleven time All Being NBA two 498 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: thousand and five, six A Rookie of the Year twenty twelve, 499 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: thirteen All Star game MVP. So the resume, but you 500 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: gotta update that resume with Joe. Yeah, when was the 501 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: last time you saw when the last time we saw 502 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: him an All Star game? 503 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: Joe, It's been it's been a while. Well, he like, 504 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: he likes. He likes second or third in the history 505 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: of the game and assists. 506 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: Right, Uh. I think he third. I think he third 507 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: behind Stockton and Kid. 508 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: Okay, mmm, that's that's crazy and it is funny. It's funny. 509 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: It's funny. 510 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: This happens all the time, just not in sports, in 511 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: life in general. 512 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Okay, well, he passed, he passed, He passed Jake Kidd. 513 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: Yeah he's second. 514 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's crazy. 515 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: That's a hell of a feat that boy. 516 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Oh that's crazy, Bron. 517 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: So hold on, hold on. 518 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: Joe to a different Joe. 519 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, Look, you were what you had accomplished at Atlanta. 520 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: That's Atlanta. When you go into a different situation, you 521 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: move very, very differently every single different situation you went 522 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: into until you found out the landscape of the land. 523 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: You just can't be that same person. 524 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you unless you're that guy. 525 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Lest you Lebron James to go to Miami. He tried 526 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: to take him back. See d Way said, bro. In 527 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: order for us to do what we need to do, 528 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: you got to be him. He goes back to Cleveland. 529 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. He takes over. Maybe that rubbed 530 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: some of the guys the wrong way. He goes to 531 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: l A. Well, he's the best player on the team, 532 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: the best player on the team coming in. It's understood. 533 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: What's understood, doesn't need to be explained. 534 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: But when you what not the first, not the second, 535 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: not the third, not the fourth, not the fifth. Best 536 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: and another mistake that made they keep making mistake after mistake, 537 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: and they keep compounding it. You gave up a Norman 538 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: Powell who it should have been an All Star last 539 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: year for Bradley Beal. 540 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: Bradley Bill done for the rest of the. 541 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: Year, that boy averaging what hey, the season just. 542 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: Started, Yeah it ended for him. 543 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: Old he heard him. I think he hurt his knee 544 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: or something, but he done. Yeah, I think it's just him. 545 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah that Hey, hey, Norman Powell over that everything about 546 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five a. 547 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Game in absolutely absolutely damn Yeah. You see when you 548 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: make a mistake, O Joe, and you compounded, Yes, you brought. 549 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure. I just Joe helped me understand this. 550 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: Joe. 551 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: They saw him in that situation in Phoenix Phoenix Book 552 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: and k D he couldn't be third fiddle. 553 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: You know what, he'll be a better third fiddle here 554 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: behind Kawhi and James Harden. 555 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: I think what the Clippers were thinking. Ok Ojoe, Okay, 556 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: we bring Bradley Bill over. He still got some youth 557 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: in him. He's a little younger than Harden, and in 558 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: Kawhi gonna miss a lot of games. We know that 559 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: we gonna need a guy who can step in and 560 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: maybe get h. 561 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 5: I say, a guy that can step in a score. 562 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we gonna need a guy who step in to 563 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: give us eighteen to twenty five a night. I think 564 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: that's what the Clippers were banking on. And obviously due 565 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 2: to injuries, man, he you know, he just ain't been 566 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: able to Brandy Bill was never able to deliver that 567 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: for the Clippers, so it put him in a tough mind. 568 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Harden has been playing great all year, but it's been 569 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: hard because outside of Zuba. You know, when Kawhi does play, 570 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: you know, he does give him great minutes, but they 571 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: don't have no chemistry continuity. You can kind of see 572 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: it when they play, you know what I mean. So uh, 573 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: and it's just it just it just hasn't worked this 574 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: year for him. 575 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 3: Man, damn, it hasn't. It hasn't. 576 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: But Joe, I've tried to figure out, how did they 577 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: expect somebody to get healthier as they get older. 578 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: Look at Brandley Bill's history the last couple of years, 579 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: he's been hurt. 580 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: I know they tried. They was optimistic. They try to 581 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: give him a try. It's like, hey, listen, okay, we 582 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: we we we understand that he ain't performed well in Phoenix, 583 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: but we're gonna give him another chance. Look this chance 584 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: we giving him, it ain't gonna really cost us nothing. 585 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: On top of that, we try to bring in CP 586 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: because if not, then you gotta pay Norman pound Max 587 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: dollards to stay close to Max dollars to stay. So 588 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: I think they were trying to avoid that too. So yeah, 589 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: they were trying to cut corners. 590 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: And Pile has gotten better and better, and now you 591 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: see him. When Tyler Hero was out, he was cooking. 592 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: He could I mean, hey, he can take you off 593 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: the dribble, he can spot up, he can shoot the 594 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: three off the drunk. I mean, and now he got 595 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: they got Tyler Hero back. It's just it's just been 596 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: one thing after another for the Clippers, and unfortunately, I 597 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: think that window has slammed shut with Kawhi because Kawhi 598 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: is never gonna. 599 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 3: Give you enough games Joe to mount anything. 600 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: And then when you least he can play back to backs, 601 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: and in the playoffs, you're playing every you play it 602 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: every other day. 603 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: What you said, after you get past game three. 604 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: It's tund it's trying to blow it up. Get get 605 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: some get some uh some draft capitals. 606 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 607 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: You got how many more years? 608 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Because how many more years they got on Kawhi because 609 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: they just gave Kawhi a new deal. Many you gave 610 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Kawhi new deal you walked away from Paul George, which 611 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: looks like a good thing now, because they wanted to 612 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: do a three year deal. Paul wanted that extra fourth year. 613 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Philly's gonna be kicking their own self in the ass. 614 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: But Philly's gonna be kicking themselves and the ass with 615 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: Joe Labid also because he got damnedar two hundred million 616 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: in the next three years coming. 617 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: But look, go ahead, Philip Philly. Philly ain't got a 618 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: they they got. 619 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: I blow it up. I mean, I build. I'm feeling 620 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: around Max and Edgecumbe. 621 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: They got a decent problem because they got some young 622 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: boys on that team, and Philly who's gonna go get 623 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: EMBD and and and Paul George ain't playing. They got 624 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: some boys out there who will go get yep. I 625 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: enjoyed watching them. What's the guy that come up come 626 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: off the bench? MAXI O your Quinn Grimes? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 627 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: So they got some promises, they got some promise over there. 628 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: The is don't have to do something, man, I don't 629 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: know what they gotta do. They gotta do something. 630 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: Hey, what what's what's what's the issue? I know Joel 631 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: embiid is his knee. His knee is bothering them with 632 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 4: Paul George. Paul George need too yep. 633 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he had a procedure. And I think 634 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: he had a procedure right for the season started too. 635 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of set in mount some more okay. 636 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: And you got you got two more years and damn near. 637 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: I think he signed a four years, two hundred and 638 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars. Yeah, so you you you see what 639 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: you You see what you're looking at right on your You 640 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: look at about fifty million dollars a year. 641 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: Joel Embiid got three years, almost two hundred million. I got. 642 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: He's out. Can't play back to back. 643 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: They're already saying, Joel Embiid is not playing back to back. 644 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: Guess what. He's getting older, He's getting heavier. 645 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've never seen somebody get healthy as 646 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: they got older. 647 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 648 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Kawhi needs bad too. 649 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Huh what bad? 650 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: Worse than mine? 651 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Man? 652 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Hey, love, Look, the only difference is I'm fifty seven. 653 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: He not even thirty seven. 654 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: A wise man once told me, the older you get, man, 655 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: the lighter you got to be to play this game. 656 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: It's a young absolutely. This was pat Riley. When I 657 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: played in Miami Ojo for a couple of months. Me 658 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: and him said out. He was like, Joe, the older 659 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: you get, the lighter you have to be to play 660 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: this game, man, it's a young man's game, right. 661 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: I told you. 662 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: As I started getting older the league, I got lighter 663 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: and lighter, light and lighter. 664 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it was two thirty two, then 665 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: it was two thirty one, then it was twenty nine, 666 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Then it was twenty eight, then it was twenty six. 667 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: You see, yes, sir. 668 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: Hey ojo. I always tell people, man that the older 669 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: that we get, the harder it is to play the 670 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: games that we love because we have to work a 671 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: lot lot harder than somebody who's younger. You know what 672 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean. Yes, Like as we age and you get 673 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: in your forties, your fifties, just a gear for a 674 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: basketball game, Hey man, you can't be out there playing. 675 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: You got to You got to stretch, warm up. You 676 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: gotta make sure that body rightful. You put on that freeway. 677 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: So I get it. You gotta eat, Joe. You gotta 678 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: two things need to happen, one of the other and 679 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: sometimes both. You gotta work out harder and eat less. 680 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta do both of them. Now you gotta 681 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: work out harder and eat less. Yeah, you gotta. Can 682 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: I do one of the others? Do I gotta do both? 683 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: Or boff? Both? 684 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: Ain't nowhere around it. You got to do both. You 685 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: have to eat. You have to eat less and work 686 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: out harder. That's the way it goes, Like your training has. 687 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: I tell my son this all the time. I know 688 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: you're a lot younger, but I tell I say, man, 689 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: your training has to be far harder than the game itself, 690 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So when you do play, 691 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: you can make it look easy. You know what I mean? 692 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: If you train hard and going hard, sweating, he got 693 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: your heart rate Like, that's what you want because when 694 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: you touch the floor, the court or the field, man, 695 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: you wanted to look easy. Bro. 696 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe y'all did in bad at night. You know 697 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: they're in Atlanta. Hawks fan erupted, where's Chris Paul? Oh man, 698 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: where's Chris Paul? 699 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: He's from right up the street, North Carolina. I bet 700 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that they see him play. 701 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they did. 702 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: A number on us tonight too, didn't it. 703 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: Huh? 704 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: I think they did a number on the Hawks to night. 705 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: The Clippers did. I don't know, I know, Uh yeah, man, 706 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: they got us one fifteen to ninety two. 707 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: Damn damn man. 708 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson been playing out his damn minded He didn't 709 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: play tonight. That was that was that was the problem. 710 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh okay, now it makes sense then. Yeah, that boy 711 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: man he been bothering. He gonna be an all side 712 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: of shit too. Yeah, he played like an all star. 713 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 714 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Man, them young them young guys are really doing the number, man. 715 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: They are. Yeah, they got some guys out there that's 716 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: playing hard. But I don't want people to lose sight 717 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: of trade not being out there. Man, he's definitely gonna 718 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 2: be needed because he to me, Uncle o Jo, he's 719 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 2: the factor. He's the guy who can win you a series, 720 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: who can get you to the next round. Like, yeah, 721 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: it looks great now. You know, throughout the regular season 722 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 2: we winning games. But man, look when he getting knuck 723 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: cut in time, you know, we gonna we need a 724 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: guy who'd have been there and know what it takes, right, Like. 725 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray had a monster game, Joe. He had fifty 726 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: two points. He was nineteen or twenty five from the floor, 727 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: ten of eleven from the. 728 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: Three, hold on nineteen for twenty five. 729 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, fifty two, Hey boy, he was efficient to night. 730 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: Hey when when Uncle Ojo, when Jamal Murray playing like that, 731 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard. 732 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 3: They hard. You can't you can't beat them. 733 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: You can't beat them because look yok still had twenty 734 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: four points, a rebound, thirteen assists, So he's still gonna 735 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 2: give you his triple double. Now, if you get somebody 736 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: chip in, that's gonna give you forty to fifty. 737 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Eric, think about it. Aaron Gordon's out go look back 738 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: and look at Aaron Gordon. Since he got there and 739 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: they won the championship, He's been better, shooting the ball 740 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: from outside, played outstanding defense. 741 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 3: He's that third option. 742 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: And had he not got it had been very interesting 743 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: to see, Joe, what would have happened, What could have 744 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: happened had he not gotten injured that Game seven against KC. 745 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: Next topic, Janni's ante Takunpo is unhappy with the Bucks organization. 746 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: He deleted all mention of the Bucks. 747 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: From his social media pages on Tuesday, and Brian ren 748 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: Horse revealed Jannis had asked to be traded uh to 749 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: the New York Knicks during the offseason. H Jannis's agent, 750 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: Alex Sassatistic saratis it sounds. 751 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 3: Greek that they. 752 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: Reportedly have begun discussion with Milwaukee regarding his future and 753 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: resolution is expected within the next few weeks. 754 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: Joe can let me start this. Joe, I ain't got 755 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: no problem goud wanting to leave. 756 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: But what I got a problem with guys doing is 757 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: taking shots at guys when they leave. You know what 758 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: I remember when Yanni said, I don't want to go 759 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: somewhere else and team up with somebody else. I want 760 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: them to come to Milwaukee, because see, everybody was taking chance. 761 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Say Lebron when he went to Miami, everybody, I ain't 762 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: calling no name, but everybody has something to say, and 763 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: I big damn if everybody that has something to say, 764 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: look at be careful, You'll become the very thing you despise. 765 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: My grandpa used to always say this, Joe, be careful, boy, 766 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: you'll become the very thing you despise most in a person. Yeah, 767 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: because you because you hate a liar, you will become one. 768 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: You hate a thief, you will become one. You hate 769 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: a cheat, you will become one. Be careful, boy, you'll 770 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: become the very thing you despise the most in a person. 771 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 5: Not look at him now, but uncle, he frustrated. 772 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: Lebron was. 773 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: For everybody had something to say, right right, Joe, Oh, Joe. 774 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with God. I wanting to 775 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: go none whatsoever. But guess what Lebron did. Guess what 776 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: KD did. Now they traded KD. I don't know if 777 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: KD wanted to go. Lebron played every last contract out. 778 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: He was done with Cleveland, his contract that ended, he 779 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: went to Miami. He gave Miami four years. He went 780 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: back to Cleveland for four years. He's been in LA 781 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: now seven eight years, played out every last contract. But 782 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: everybody took their shots. I don't go I don't want 783 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: a team up with somebody else. I want to be 784 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: right here. Okay, yeah, wait listen, Now you want to 785 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: go to the Buck, Now you want to go to Knicks. 786 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: What's the next guy? Jaylen Bronson, Karl Land, through the towns, 787 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: Michale Bridges, oh g Ananoby, Mitchell Robinson. 788 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: Now, obviously you gonna have to get some of those 789 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 3: guys up. 790 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 4: But n And the funny thing about it is it's 791 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: easy to say all the right things when you're winning. 792 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 5: It's easy to say all the right things when you're happy. 793 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 5: That's the easy part, Joe, huh. 794 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: I mean it's easy to smile and look at other 795 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 4: people that you see bounced around and and doing things 796 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 4: that God damn it, doing things that you wouldn't do, 797 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 4: doing things that you wouldn't do. 798 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 5: Because I'm just go to my laptop camera. Man, I'm 799 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 5: sick of turning this thing off off and on. 800 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: I know KD was not traded to the Warriors. KD 801 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: was traded KD traded to the was traded to UH Phoenix, 802 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: and was traded to the Rockets, So he was traded twice. 803 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: Chat Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, O Joe, No, no, 804 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: I was finished. 805 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I mean every everyone, everyone. When when 806 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: things are convenient, you know, when the opportunity you're in 807 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: at that moment, you're happy, well god, yeah, you're. 808 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 5: Gonna say everything under the sun. 809 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: When you see someone else doing something that you probably 810 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: wouldn't do, the many things go sour for you, and 811 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 4: inside the house started to stink. What's the first thing 812 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: you want to do? Oh man, I got it. I 813 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 4: got to get up out of here, and you forget 814 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 4: about everything you said about somebody else that would doing 815 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 4: the exact same thing. 816 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 5: You ready to do? You ready to stinking house because 817 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 5: it's smelled. 818 00:38:59,520 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: Joe. 819 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: Was that sitting at the Joe asking to see you 820 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: this this thing with Yanni's injuredous cat. 821 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: Did you see when he just. 822 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 5: He just sent there ain't ain't nothing wrong with him, 823 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 5: ain't nothing wrong with him. 824 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: They won, but he didn't play. But like three four minutes. 825 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 3: But I want you to see this, Joe Temper. 826 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: What you're thinking, Okay. 827 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 5: It was a non contact, non contact. 828 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 2: Hold on what you're trying to say? 829 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 5: Uh no, he he just went down. 830 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 3: He was down. I don't want you to look at it, Joe, 831 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. I want you to look at it. 832 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 4: Ain't nothing wrong with him. 833 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: Ain't listen. But what happens? What happens when that girl 834 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: on Instagram started taking them pictures down and hunt a boyfriend? 835 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: All, it's over a rap. That's over a rap, asked, 836 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: said she sent it to you. I G it's over, 837 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: you know, And and that's the thing that's why you Hey, look, 838 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: y'all need to be first of all, you need to 839 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: be really really locked in to start posting. Y'all date somebody. 840 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: Y'all go out of one day and you already got 841 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: him up. My heart, my rib my backbone. God gave 842 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: me everything I asked for, and a week later, I 843 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: guess God took it back. 844 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 2: You know, ain't showing up. I can't what's this on? X? 845 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: You sitting on Twitter? Yes? You sent you a Twitter 846 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 3: link on Instagram? 847 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: Damn it ain't showing h Joe. 848 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 5: Young Joe don't know how to work technology. 849 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Uh oh, he works to be out, Oh Joe, chill 850 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: cheer yeah, yeh cheer cheer chih yeah yeh. 851 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: Hey. Look, I am about as bad as though. 852 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: For I'm trying to figure out, uh, I'm trying to 853 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: figure out where these guys be coming up with these 854 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: injuries now, everybody getting cam strings, oh Joe in the NFL, the. 855 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: N B, A m l B. I'm like, damn, but listen, 856 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 4: you know what I listen. I ain't even gonna say nothing. Man, 857 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 4: I ain't even say every time I say something, everybody laugh. 858 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 5: Tell me be quiet. 859 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on, hey, hey, hold on, because 860 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 2: that's a non contact injury, and it's just like, ain't 861 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: nobody touching him? He just went. 862 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 5: You know, you know what it is? 863 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: He frustrated. 864 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: When you start hearing rumbling, when you start hearing rumblings 865 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: about somebody in a relationship, Oh Joe, it's just a 866 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: matter of time because somebody done saying something to somebody, 867 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: and somebody will put that information out. 868 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Hey, hey, this might be a little more 869 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: serious than what we think though. 870 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 4: Okay, Ojo, what that injury that ain't no injury are 871 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 4: you talking about on the inside? 872 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like, Joe. But here's the thing, Joe, 873 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: let me ask you this. 874 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: You go down like that and the training staff don't 875 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: come over, your teammates come help you up? 876 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 5: Come on, Joe, you know what that is? I can 877 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 5: I can tell you what I can tell you what 878 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 5: that is. 879 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm saying, Joe, when you went down, did that? 880 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: Did the trainers down come or did your teammates come 881 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: get you? 882 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 4: Can I tell you what that was? He Joe, can 883 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 4: I tell you what that was? 884 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: Joe? 885 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to risk injury in myself and lessen 886 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 4: than my trade value. So I'm gonna go down and 887 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 4: pretend to have a non contact injury until they get 888 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: this trade in place. 889 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: Nah, I'm sorry, man, I don't see I don't think 890 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: Gianni's moved. He don't take me for that type of guy. 891 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 2: Now allow me the right to be wrong. 892 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 4: Well, Joe, I just told you inside the house is 893 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 4: smelled right now. 894 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 5: I don't want to be inside the house while smell. 895 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: That man worked too hard, bro he I don't see 896 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: that man just giving up on their team like that. 897 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: I think he I think this injury is far more 898 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 2: serious than what we can anticipate right now. 899 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 5: Joe, Joe, you don't want to bet none, Joe. 900 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Joe, understand that most of the time, 901 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 4: most of the time, when you see an individual like that, 902 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 4: of course you will. 903 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: They said it's his calf. Obviously, Oh Joe, they're gonna 904 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: do it. They're gonna do an m R. They're gonna 905 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: do a full battery of test. They said it was 906 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: his calf. They said, I guess they I guess. They 907 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: said the tendon, the tendant is intact. Yeah, yeah, it's 908 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: They said it was a calf string, O, Joe. 909 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 3: So that's what we gotta go by. 910 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 911 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 3: You know a lot of people like it. 912 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: Uh uh, you know sometimes when guys want to get 913 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: out of a situation. But like I agree with you, Joe, 914 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yann's doesn't take me for that type 915 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: of a guy. But he doesn't take me for a 916 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: guy that wanted to be moved during the season. Exactly 917 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 1: what Cham's and what a windy Brian Windhorse is saying 918 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: that he asked. 919 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 3: To be moving for the season. Yeah, so if if. 920 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: What they're saying, if what they're reporting is true that 921 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: he asked out during the season because they got him 922 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: Dame in that situation that worked. 923 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 3: They bought Dame out. 924 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 925 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: Now here's the thing, Myles Turner. 926 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: He signed with Milwaukee to be with Yanni's there two 927 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: months and Yanni's won out and now he's stuck. He 928 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: could have stayed in in in indeed, but well listen, 929 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: if he already told you before the season, look, man, 930 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: I want y'all trade Man, y'all didn't do it. 931 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: We went with it. I'm not gonna give up on y'all, 932 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: but I still want y'all to know. Look, I don't 933 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: wipe my Instagram clean with y'all, y'all, so that one sign, 934 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: this one sign, ojo that one sign. Now next time 935 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 2: gonna be I'm just gonna have to go and come 936 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: public and tell. 937 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 3: You, no, he WoT He definitely don't strike me off 938 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 3: that type of guy. 939 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying, if he really want to get out 940 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: of there, that's how he gonna be able to get out, 941 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to he gonna have to voice it. 942 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 2: He gonna have to say it. 943 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: So what you're gonna have to let me ask your question, though, 944 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: let's just say he wanted to go to the Knicks. 945 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to give up Carl Anthony Towns. You're 946 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to give up Mikel Bridges. You're gonna have 947 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: to give up Oh Giannanoby. You're gonna have to give 948 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: up Draft Picks. Is him and Jalen Brunson. Jayalen needs 949 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: the ball, Y'allni needs the ball? Is that enough? 950 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: I think if you New York, you try to find 951 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: a way to keep Brunting and Cat Oh no way, Yeah, 952 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: I say you want to try to find a way 953 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 2: to keep them too, because if you can keep them too, 954 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,439 Speaker 2: and and him now yeah, and just kind of stay 955 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: out there on the three. He know he gonna shoot 956 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: threes anyway. You know what, you got, You a great 957 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: rim roller, live thrower, downhill guy. But you're gonna probably 958 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: have to give up Michel and and and and O 959 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 2: g like you, You're gonna have to give up both 960 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 2: of them if you're giving up Cat, because I need 961 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: a superstar. And I'm not saying I think casts a star. 962 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 2: I don't think he's a superstar. But you're gonna have 963 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,479 Speaker 2: to give up Cat. 964 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: Wow, man, Oh, I think Michael Bridges is fine. I 965 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: think o g but they ain't really selling no tickets 966 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 1: like that. Cat was the number one overall draft pick 967 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: I got. I got to have him because and and 968 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: and and and and with with uh Bronson and and uh. 969 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Based on the Eastern Conference this year, that might be enough. Now, 970 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: Orlando's gonna have something to say about that. Orlando's gonna 971 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: have something to say about that. When they get buying 972 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: Carroll Back and Wagner's playing, the Southern is playing the 973 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: way blackets playing. 974 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: They got Wendell Carter. Oh no, no, no no, They're gonna 975 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: have something to say now. 976 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: Detroit gonna have something to say to Detroit, gonna have 977 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: something to say. Cleveland. I got to see Cleveland because 978 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: Cleveland do this to me every year. Donovan Mitchell do 979 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: this to me every year. He get me so damn 980 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: hype and then he let me die. It's it's it's 981 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: the in Cleveland is more of Darius Garland for me. 982 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: If he can stay healthy and be that guy next 983 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: to Donovan. Yeah, but if he can't stay healthy, it's 984 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,720 Speaker 1: like he'd be out there fighting against four five different 985 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: dudes by himself. 986 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 2: It's just it's too much it's too much. 987 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: I just think I just think the Cat's gonna be 988 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: a part of any trade. Now you got Josh Hart, uh, 989 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: but I think I think Cat, McHale, Bridges and and 990 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: and O G. 991 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 3: I think they're getting those guys that. 992 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: Said if you Milwaukee, yes, you won't Cat. If you're 993 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: the Knicks, you want to try to keep Brunton and 994 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 2: Cat and I don't know how you do that and 995 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 2: bring you in Giannis, but you want you want to 996 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 2: try to keep them to to have with him because 997 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 2: just him and Braxton. 998 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: I want Hi about the East. I send him to 999 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: the West. Okay, who got something from in the West? 1000 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmm? I want him in the East. Why would 1001 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: I do that? And I got to see this man 1002 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: at least four times. You're Joe, he done brought you 1003 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: a championship and we played him handsomely. Yeah, I don't know. 1004 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what else y'all want from because they're 1005 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: not gonna They're not a championship in spying team right now. 1006 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: So I don't really know what you want from him. 1007 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: I mean, at some rights, you know, at some point, 1008 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: all good things got to come to an end, right, Yeah. 1009 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 5: That's true. 1010 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 4: And listen to ye he asked por trade at the 1011 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 4: beginning of the season, and the fact that, hey, listen, 1012 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: the fact that obviously we all known people who who 1013 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 4: you would think would never do certain things and do 1014 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 4: something not of character, something that's very uncharacteristic of who 1015 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 4: they present themselves as publicly. Yeah, yes, okay, when it come, 1016 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 4: when this comes out, and I tell y'all, this is 1017 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 4: his way out that there's nothing wrong with him. He's 1018 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 4: going to make sure that he doesn't lose trade value 1019 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 4: by injuring himself. 1020 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 5: Right now, I guarantee you, and I want, I want, 1021 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 5: I want those apologies. 1022 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 3: For what about this? 1023 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: O Joe? 1024 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 3: What about to the Mavericks Anthony Davis and another. 1025 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: Player Anthony David, Anthony Davis. 1026 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis, Klay Thompson in the first round pick? 1027 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 2: Milwaukee ain't taking that. Milwaukee ain't taking that. Okay, now, 1028 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: if I'm Milwaukee, I ain't even taking that. I'm sorry. 1029 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: Well, you WoT hey, Joe, Oh Joe, you hear what 1030 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: he's saying. But he WoT the Knicks to give up 1031 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 1: a Bridges and og and keep Cat. So Cat, Johannis 1032 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: and and Bronson, you're gonna you're gonna have to give 1033 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: up o g Uh, Robinson, Michale Bridges, some draft picks. 1034 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 3: They gonna want Cat. I'm gonna tell you they gonna 1035 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 3: want Cat. 1036 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm cured. I'm curious to see how this 1037 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 5: is gonna play out. This is Cat, This is interesting. 1038 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: They probably do want them. But if I'm the Kniggs, 1039 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 2: I'm trying, like you know what, not to give him up. 1040 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: Right, It's tough, and I think the thing is Joe 1041 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: and O Joe is that we've got to get out 1042 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: of this notion. Man, Barry would have never requested the trade. 1043 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: Magic would have never Jordan of this one. It is 1044 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: a new day, It is a new era. I never 1045 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: would have thought eggs would cost eight dollars an effing dozen. Man, 1046 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: I never thought cigarettes would be ten twelve dollars a pack. 1047 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: It is a different time. You got to think differently. 1048 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: You can't use that same he would have never were done. Yes, 1049 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: my grandmother and people's grandmother stayed through no matter what. 1050 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't no divorce. 1051 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 4: Now, hey, at the slightest I'm out of here, deuces. 1052 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: So we've got we've got to stop this notion. Our 1053 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: our former great players wouldn't do this because it's a 1054 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: new day social media. The landscape of professional sports is 1055 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: different now. It really, it really is. And so heyst 1056 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: involved with the Times. Joannis in New York could be crazy? 1057 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 4: Oh no, god, yeah, that that'd be nasty. 1058 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 3: What Johannis and Wenby with Castle? 1059 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 2: See they got they do san Antonio got some ancense. 1060 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: They got some guys over there who Milwaukee wouldn't mind taking. 1061 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 2: They got a few of them over there. 1062 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 4: That's not fair, now, what's not how you're gonna have 1063 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 4: Yiannis and wouldn't be on the same goddamn team. 1064 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: Come on, man, hey man, they got they got some 1065 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 2: guys to give up who can come over to Milwaukee 1066 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 2: and make some things happen. 1067 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah they do. Yeah, I think. Look, I think there's 1068 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna be some guys. Would I be shocked if John 1069 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:23,240 Speaker 1: got traded? 1070 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 4: No? 1071 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 3: If I would I be shocked if you got traded? 1072 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 4: No? 1073 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna be shocked either one 1074 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: of those guys get moved. Both places are kind of like, Yeah, 1075 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: I've seen enough. Josh stays hurt and he ain't learned 1076 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: this lesson. Yeah, Hey, hey. 1077 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 4: Listen, hey, Joe, I know I know where're gonna learn 1078 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 4: this lesson at where? It ain't nothing like coming on 1079 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 4: down here to the to this military base. Down here, 1080 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 4: are you on some structure? 1081 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 3: Discipline? 1082 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 4: Come on down here this military base. It's just like 1083 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 4: just like the Marines. We're gonna get you right. 1084 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, I don't mind the shake up, uncho. You know, 1085 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't mind seeing guys on the move, you know, 1086 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 2: especially some of these big names. So I think need 1087 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 2: a fresh start. Yeah, change job playing in Miami. Yeah, 1088 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 2: and that's a different animal, Ocho. 1089 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm worried. I'm listen. I'm gonna make sure 1090 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 5: you stay focused. 1091 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 1: No, Joe'll tell you what you you went to someone 1092 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: that was somewhere that was really structured. How different was 1093 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: it for you where you couldn't be yourself? How was 1094 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: different was that for you playing in New England as 1095 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: opposed to Cincinnati where you got to be o Jo 1096 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: Sinko and when you went to Newton you had to 1097 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: be Chad Johnson. 1098 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it was it was cool. It was cool. 1099 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 4: It was it was cool, and it's that that experience 1100 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 4: for me, honestly, being and I understood my role once 1101 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 4: I got there. 1102 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't never be Ocho. 1103 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 2: You hear me, Joe, Yeah, I wasn't. 1104 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 4: There to be that chat of old where I had 1105 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 4: the shoulder the brunt of everything on my shoulders when 1106 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 4: it came to us from an offensive perspective. When I 1107 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,439 Speaker 4: got there, boy, they was loaded. So in my mind, 1108 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, what the hell y'all brought me here for. 1109 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 4: There's only one receiver that I know that went to 1110 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 4: New England who can play on the outside and was 1111 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 4: able to dominate about to go crazy, and he's one 1112 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 4: of the best all time, and I don't compare now 1113 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 4: where close to that individual. 1114 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 5: So I's in a way I was there. 1115 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 4: I was at peace for what you want me to do, okay, 1116 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 4: and I definitely wann't fing to complain, you know, because 1117 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 4: I understood. 1118 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 5: I understand. 1119 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 4: I understood that patriotate. I understood that. So I went 1120 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 4: in there. Hell you got you got grownk Joe. Look 1121 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 4: who they got Joe, they got Gronk, they got Aaron Henandez, 1122 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 4: they got Wes Welcome, they got Julian Edelman, Dion Branch. 1123 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 5: It was it was one mode, It's it's somebody else. 1124 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, God, what man, what. 1125 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 5: They they traded me here and they got only god damn, 1126 00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 5: they got everything. 1127 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: But you want to lead your imprint though, you want 1128 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: to lead your imprint though you you want to contribute, 1129 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: You want to be a factor on the squad, you. 1130 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 1131 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't like you was there like I'm just chilling. 1132 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no. 1133 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know I wanted to. 1134 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 3: I want to. 1135 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 4: I'm a competitor, Joe. But but Joe, you know, it 1136 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 4: wasn't going how I wanted to go. 1137 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,959 Speaker 5: And boy, I wanted finish. Say now, goddamn word, but hey, 1138 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 5: not not over there? 1139 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 4: Huh. 1140 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, I remember I remember Randy saying something in 1141 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 5: the media I think about, you know, contraction right right on. 1142 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 3: It was like contraction by money. 1143 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,439 Speaker 5: Boy, Joe, he was going in twenty four hours. Oh 1144 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 5: hell hell nod. 1145 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I think they traded him back 1146 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: to they traded him back to Minnesota. 1147 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 3: If the Minnesota traded him to Tennessee. 1148 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 4: Tennessee, hey, Joe, he coming off of twenty three, twenty 1149 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 4: three toestdown season, Brock twenty three toestdown season, they know 1150 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 4: I would love to be compensated a little bit more 1151 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken. 1152 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was after the That might have been. 1153 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: He was traded before you got to Ojo so coause 1154 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight. I think 1155 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: he got traded in two thousand and nine back to Minnesota. Yeah, 1156 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: because remember o Jo, he sat out and then he 1157 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: ended up going to San Francisco and San Francisco went 1158 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and played the Ravens. 1159 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 5: Yeah mm hmm. 1160 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is joe One thing about it. It was 1161 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 4: a wonderful experience. It was a wonderful experience. And I think, 1162 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 4: honestly for Joah being in that structuring environment where it's 1163 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 4: a little bit more tight knit, you know, having someone 1164 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 4: like pat Riley who rules with the iron fist, it 1165 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 4: can be a good thing for him and adding that 1166 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 4: structure that he doesn't and that discipline doesn't have right now, 1167 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 4: or that many may think he doesn't have right now. 1168 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: Ojo, that Miami culture that Heat coached. Let me tell 1169 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: you something, man, they got pre practiced before practice. Yes, 1170 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: and if practice is at eleven, pre practice is at 1171 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 2: about nine thirty ten o'clock, Yeah, that ain't They ain't 1172 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 2: walking in and now that's ready to go on the floor. Yeah, 1173 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 2: you got d Wade u d. All these dudes are 1174 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 2: in pre pre practice. So everybody's in pre practice. It's 1175 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 2: just kind of it's just kind of the heat wave. 1176 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 2: That's how it is. Man. It's like them dudes work. Man, 1177 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 2: they put the work in, bro, they ain't looking for 1178 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: nobody who's coming in And you two swagged out to 1179 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: get in here two three hours before practice. Man, you're 1180 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 2: trying to accomplish something. 1181 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 5: No, he like, he owned that. He owned that. 1182 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 4: You know that change the scene where you know that, 1183 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 4: that's that's that's what he wants. 1184 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 5: You know, young boy. Young boy want to be great, okay, and. 1185 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 4: You know he can't. He can't do what he want 1186 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 4: to do out there in Memphis. And Memphis is a 1187 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 4: great place. Now, it's a great. 1188 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: Hard going to an unstructured being coming from an unstructured 1189 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: environment being structured, it's hard. Yeah, it's hard, oh, Joe. 1190 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: That's why the military. You can't. You can't be in 1191 00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 1: there without discipline. They get they're gonna break you. Do 1192 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: you understand all the people that go ahead. 1193 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 4: I don't for to say the military, Joe, the Army, 1194 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 4: the Marines, the Navy. You have no choice but to 1195 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 4: have discipline, because one mistake there is no coming back. 1196 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 4: This ain't called This ain't call of duty, Joe. One 1197 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 4: mistake out there when it matters most, when it actually counts, 1198 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 4: you don't get you. Once you get hit, that's you're done. 1199 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 4: And then you're responsible for everybody else's life as well. 1200 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 4: So you have no choice but to be structured and discipline. 1201 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 4: You can't make mistakes. 1202 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: Like Colonel Jeffson asked, Kathy, have you ever put your 1203 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: life in someone else's hands, man's man and ask him 1204 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: to put you his life in your hands? 1205 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,959 Speaker 3: We follow rules or men die. 1206 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1207 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 4: Hey, I don't even I don't even like the sound 1208 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 4: of that. 1209 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 5: That's too much pressure. 1210 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 4: I don't even like those expectations in the way it sounds, Joe, 1211 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 4: look like the way it sound. I don't want to 1212 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 4: be responsible for your life sometimes, Joe. 1213 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, And. 1214 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 4: I'm talking about on a smaller scale where it's not 1215 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 4: life or death like in life. 1216 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: Football, in basketball, where you ask the man that's playing 1217 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: next to you to put his trust in you that 1218 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna do what you're supposed to do. Okay, you 1219 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: ask that man that's on the court next to you, Joe, 1220 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: to put his trust in you and you put your 1221 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: trust in him. You're right, it's not to the magnitude 1222 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: of life for death, but wins and losses, and it 1223 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: feels like life and death because a lot of times 1224 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: when you're losing, it's worse than death because you gotta 1225 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,439 Speaker 1: wake up the next day. 1226 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: Come on, now, Yeah, so much processing losses a lot 1227 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,479 Speaker 2: harder than others. 1228 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 4: Bro. 1229 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely definitely. 1230 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, the more you put into it, the harder. 1231 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: It is, absolutely right. 1232 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 3: We understand their casualties, you know. A but. 1233 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: I just I could have been to the military because 1234 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: I grew up very disciplined, ary structured, so it's been 1235 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: nothing for me. You definitely can definitely go because Barti player, 1236 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: Bardi Porter would have it any other way, no other way. 1237 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, A Joe, A Joe now that now not that 1238 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 4: on on the topic obviously, keeping everything in the context 1239 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 4: and perspective. Talk about going to the military, Joe, you 1240 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 4: saw full metal jacket. 1241 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 2: I have, but I can't really remember him. 1242 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 4: Private power private today. I would have been private power. 1243 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 4: Were put in the military, I'm private power. 1244 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm mess. 1245 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's that's a beautiful. 1246 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: When they ordered the cold red, Yeah, when saying with 1247 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: hold up Santiago, Yeah, Santiago. 1248 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: You know when. 1249 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: Santiago kept messing up and the ordered the cold red did. 1250 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 5: He got he got to go? 1251 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. 1252 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: You weep for Santiago. You curse the Marines. You have 1253 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing why. 1254 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 3: I no. 1255 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives by existed in 1256 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: grotesque and incomprehensive. Do you save lives you don't want? 1257 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: The truth could deep down to places that parties you 1258 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: don't talk about. You want me on that wall, you 1259 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: need me on that wall. We use words like honor, cold, loyalty. 1260 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: We use these words of a backbone of a lifetime 1261 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: spent defending something. You use them as a points line. 1262 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: I have at the time, nor the inclination to explain 1263 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the 1264 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: blanket of freedom that I provide and then questions the 1265 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: matter in which I provided. Come on, whether you said 1266 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: thank you anyone on your way, or pick a weapon 1267 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: up and standing posts. Either way, I don't give a 1268 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: damn what you think you are entitled to did you 1269 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: order the Cold Red? I did my job? Did you 1270 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: order the cold Red? You don't run? I did, And 1271 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: so that's what you're up against. 1272 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, uncle too. When I was in high school, 1273 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't know about job, but you know they had 1274 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: they had they had an army people. 1275 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 5: That set out yeah all TC. 1276 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. They try to recruit you coming out of 1277 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 2: high school, right, yeah, join the army. So you know 1278 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: you got your homeboy, they'll sign you up without even 1279 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: telling you. So look, I got people calling my Joe Johnson. 1280 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Yes it is him, uh, you know, trying to recruit 1281 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 2: me to come to the army. Boy, Please, I ain't 1282 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 2: going on army. Look, I'm my mama's only child. I'm 1283 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 2: gonna stand right. 1284 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: And then you wouldn't get oh Joe, And then Joe, 1285 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 1: you wouldn't get drafted because you're the only son, right, 1286 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: That's what. 1287 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you. I'm I told him that. 1288 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: But if you got a bunch of songs, oh well 1289 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: your ass grass, you can get off my line. 1290 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 3: This that's crazy. 1291 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, I don't mean to go off topic, but 1292 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 4: but you you you you took theater. 1293 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 5: You took theater in the artist like me, no, how 1294 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 5: you how you know that whole that whole line. 1295 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Uh, I just have a I have an amazing ability 1296 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to recall him. For I've always had that ability, and 1297 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it came from my grandfather because he put 1298 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on us because back then we 1299 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: didn't have no cell phone. So my grandfather would get 1300 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: somebody's number and you would say, tell it to them. 1301 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Two boys it would be and my brother, so we 1302 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: would have he would tell us the guy or the 1303 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: person would tell us the number, men spanking the number, 1304 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: and we'd have to recall it once we got home. Now, 1305 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of times we weren't going right home. 1306 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: We go to somebody's house, so we go do something 1307 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: else and by the time he get home, he's like, 1308 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: hey boy, what was that number of such and such older? 1309 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 3: And we'd have to recall it. 1310 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: So ever since then, I've always been able to recall information. 1311 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: And that's why like plays and stuff, I could just recall, 1312 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: recall it. And so I've always had that ability to 1313 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: have tremendous recall. 1314 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 5: And that's really dope. 1315 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 4: I don't think people understand how dope that is, the 1316 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 4: fact that you can still recall that moment one of 1317 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 4: the better scenes from that movie. Oh yeah, obviously the 1318 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 4: most important scene that everybody recites the fact that you 1319 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 4: can still recite it after all this time, and that 1320 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 4: movie came out How Long Go and looked like a 1321 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 4: damn teenage in that movie. Yeah, yeah, if I was, 1322 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 4: you know, it's funny and and just if I was 1323 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 4: able to do a movie right where it's a scene 1324 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 4: that's very impactful and and and it has a lot 1325 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 4: of meaning to it similar to that, it's it's a 1326 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 4: little different. But any given Sunday when al Pacino gave 1327 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 4: that speech the six inches remember that six inches speech? Yeah, man, 1328 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 4: if I you know what, matter of fact, that's my homework. 1329 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 4: That's my homework is that to watch that movie and 1330 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 4: see if I can recite it when we do the 1331 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 4: show Saturday. 1332 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 2: He uh. 1333 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Actually he followed Mike Shanahan around for real. Yep, Patrino 1334 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: did Yep, to get rid of that practice. 1335 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 3: Came to meetings. 1336 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: You see how Mike conducted is stead up in front 1337 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: of the meeting, How you talked to us and things 1338 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 1: like that. Yep, Yeah, I like that. 1339 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 4: Hey, that's six inches speech. Hey, Joe, I used to 1340 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 4: play that sometime. You know, obviously before games to listen 1341 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 4: to music. Sometimes my obviously I was more blues classical 1342 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 4: type dude, you know, because I want my mind to 1343 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 4: be calm. Yeah, so I remember there was a few 1344 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,440 Speaker 4: games I would listen to that sixth insan of speech. 1345 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 4: They just gets you hyped up, Joe, It gets you 1346 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 4: hyped up man already. 1347 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just I just had that ability to 1348 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: call information. And it's a blessing and a curse. Sometimes 1349 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: you remember everything because you know, were you in a relationship, 1350 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: you remember everything else you can't remember that. You don't 1351 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: remember where you was, you don't remember what you did, 1352 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: who you were with. 1353 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah I said that. 1354 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: No, I mean you got that of the gun every day. 1355 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 4: Hey, that's not a good thing you having it. That's 1356 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 4: a gift and a curse. Now, the fact that you 1357 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 4: can recall everything, because especially when it when it comes 1358 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 4: to you know, having a partner and she know you know, 1359 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 4: and don't forget nothing, man, Yeah to gifting the curse. 1360 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 2: And now you're out here playing done Yeah yeah, yeah, 1361 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 2: Hey little love. Look y'all far from crazy, but you 1362 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 2: could play crazy like like my like my pathers just 1363 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,919 Speaker 2: tell me I'm far from crazy, but I can play 1364 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 2: crazy now. Yeah yeah, okay. 1365 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I asked. 1366 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 1: He's crazy. I'm like crazy, Like you're a chat crazy 1367 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: or play play crazy. 1368 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 3: You could have chat crazy. That's one thing crazy. 1369 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: I can deal it. No part of that. 1370 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Uh yeah uh