1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Throughout most of his career, we're used to 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: seeing Tom Brady shine when the lights of the brightest, 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: but he certainly struggled in primetime. He did again last 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: night and the loss of the Rams. He's one in 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: three in primetime games this season. And it's not always 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: about the quarterback, but it feels like when it's Tom Brady, 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: it's either really good or really bad. And last night 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: he struggled against the Rams pressure. He had two costly interceptions, 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: including one to close out the game in the fourth quarter. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: We overreact to every game. We do it for everybody, 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: but in particular when it's Marquee players, marque quarterbacks, coaches, 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and last night, watching Tom Brady struggle with the deep ball, 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: you have to have some questions here about how good 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: is this team, who they've beaten and who they've lost to, 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: because they do not beat really good teams. They blew 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: out in Green Bay when we have all figured out right, 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and then they get blown out, and then we don't 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: have them figured out, and then here they are at 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: seven and four. The Rams were a better team last night. 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Rams didn't run the ball, but they were a better 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: all around team. You don't make mistakes. They put some 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: pressure on Brady. Brady is still getting used to Antonio Brown. 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: I think he's trying to force the ball a little 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: bit too much to his otherwide receivers. It feels like 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Brady wants the home run ball. And I was looking 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: at some stats here because I thought maybe Brady just 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: can't throw the deep ball. Let's go all the way 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: back to twenty nineteen, Brady was the NFL's fourth best 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: quarterback at throwing the deep ball. Now it's strange to 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: see it because Bruce arians loves the deep ball. Brady 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: didn't really get the opportunity or have the weapons in 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: New England to throw the deep ball in a consistent basis. 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: But he you know, he's got Mike Evans there, and 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: it feels like you're just screaming for Mike Evans to 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: get the ball more. But it felt like Brady was 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: trying to get the ball to him more. Antonio Brown 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: is where I'd want to go. I would just get 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: him the ball in space and let him do something there. 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: It feels like they're getting away from what they do 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: really well. I would run the football and I would 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: have a lot of these shorter passes there and then 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: you may take a home run shot there. But Brady 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: in fifteen or more yards down field on his attempts 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: last night was one for ten or eighteen yards, no 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: touchdowns and two interceptions. That's alarming because at some point 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: you know Brady is not going to be able to 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: make those throws. I don't know if that means now 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: he could come back. They got a game against Kansas City, 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: could throw four touchdowns, but the inconsistency is what's going 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: to hurt them eventually. You have to be able to 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: win when you're not playing well, and it doesn't feel 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: like Tampa's Tampa is able to do that. Here's Brady 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: after last night's loss and the final interception as spatteried 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: and you know Camp's running up the scene. Then the 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: last second I saw the safety coming over and just 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, popped it over Cam's head. So just a 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: bad read, bad throw decision and everything. The Buccaneers longest 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: offensive play was an eighteen yard completion to Mike Evans. Now, 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I had some drops. Running backs Leonard Fournette, Ronald Jones 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: had some drops, but still Brady when he gets pressured 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: as most quarterbacks will do, looks more human And you 63 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: saw that last night. I've slept on the Rams. It 64 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: feels like since the start of the season, prior to 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: the start of the season. And the reason is, I 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: think we go back to the Super Bowl and you say, 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: you know what, they fooled us back then. They got 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, but they scored three points. That's 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: not fair to the Rams. But it feels like we 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: all abandoned ship. You know, Sean mcvagh the genius, maybe not, 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff taking the next step, maybe not. All I 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: know is they have Aaron Donald and I thought that 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: they had a pretty good running game. They did not 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: last night. They had fifty one pass attempts. They had 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: thirty seven rushing yards. The Buccaneers had forty eight pass 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: attempts forty two rushing yards. But Cooper Cup looked great 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: last night. And that's a huge win for the Rams 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: because it is really crowded in the NFC West. I 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know what the Niners are going to do the 80 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: rest of the season. I don't know how healthy they 81 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: can get. Feels like they might be in a spoiler 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: role there Arizona. We know is dangerous, rams going to 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: be competitive, and then you have Seattle, and Seattle is 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: getting a little bit more of a defense here. NFC 85 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: West is the most competitive division we have in football 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: right now. Yes, McLeman, we're being so weak to week 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: on Brady. He had forty six against the Panthers last week. 88 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: That's a decent team. They almost beat the Chiefs. It's 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: not a terrible team. It's not a good team. They 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: took the Chiefs to the last drive of the game 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: in KC. And that's a Chiefs team that everyone thinks 92 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: gonna blow the doors off the Bucks. Who knows. Do 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: you feel confident that you know what you're gonna get 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the daytime? Yes, the 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl has played at night, just to let you know, McLevin. Yeah, 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: but no, I don't think that they're the best team. 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: But they're not as bad as everyone's. Like Brady's toasts, 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like he's gonna have some more 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: good games, right, a couple of big ones. Yeah, But 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: my problem is is they're not beating good teams. Each 101 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: of the Buccaneers losses was versus NFC teams who have 102 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: a record of five hundred or better. They're not beating 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: the teams they're going to be facing in the playoffs, 104 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: or one of these teams they're going to face in 105 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're not beating good teams. And that's their 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: four losses. That's what's concerning. I want to know how 107 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: good are you? Who did you beat? Where did you 108 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: beat him? How did you beat them? You know, the 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay game was unbelievable what they did after being 110 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: done ten nothing. I just don't know what they have 111 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: weekend in week out. It feels like what Brady's philosophy 112 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: should be or game plan is different than what Bruce 113 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: Arian's philosophy or game plan should be. But if you 114 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: look at every team in the NFC right now, everybody 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: has a big question mark with him. Seattle, did they 116 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: solve their defense? If they did, look out, but it 117 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: felt like Russell Wilson was forcing the ball. You know, 118 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: the three previous weeks, Packers are up and down, lost 119 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: to the Colts. Not quite sure what you have with them. 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: The Saints courting back quarterbacking situation there Jared Golf, can 121 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: he be consistent? You're gonna be throwing the ball forty 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: five fifty times NFC's to note any good, So you 123 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: have question marks there. It's wide open for somebody to 124 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: take this. I'm just surprised. It feels like Tampa's game 125 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: plan weekend and week out. I'm not quite sure who 126 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: they are, and the Rams are a good defense. Well, 127 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I take nothing away from that performance last night, but 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: this is Brady Tampa in Tampa the Rams. I think 129 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: this is the what fifth time in the last eight 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: games that they've gone to an Eastern time zone, and that, 131 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: to me is a game that Tampa has to win, 132 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: has to win. Yeah, mcclub, can we do a revisionist 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: poll question, where should Tom Brady have gone? And if hypothetically, 134 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, hypothetically if the Cults, the Titans and 135 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: the Niners, the teams that they were rumored for him, 136 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: we're all on the table and Tampa Bay. I feel 137 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: like a month ago, we're like he made a brilliant choice. 138 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: They got Lavante David, and now we're like, oh, he 139 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: picked the wrong place. No. I think that he went 140 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: to the right place. He wanted to have fun, he 141 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: had weapons. I don't think the offensive line is great. 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: I think it just has to be good enough. He 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: got Gronk there, Antonio Brown. I mean, Brady's gotten everything 144 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: he wants. Gronk is there, Antonio Brown is there. He 145 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: got weapons, he's having fun, got out of New England. 146 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't feel sorry for him. I'm just 147 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: curious what the philosophy is weak to we Like, what 148 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: did they do against Kansas City? Are they going to 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: get in a shootout with Kansas City? Are they gonna 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: try to run the ball against Kansas City? Yeah? Mclemming. 151 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: Did you say I forgot the Bears? Right? That was 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: that was the surprise team that nobody knew about. Would 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: that be one that would have been a better option 154 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: for his style? No? No, no, no, that's not good 155 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: opa for anybody. Stop. Maybe he's got to hand the 156 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: ball off more. No, no, let's not be silly. They 157 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: got Kansas City coming up, then a bye week, they 158 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: got Minnesota, Atlanta, Detroit in Atlanta. All right, they got 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: seven wins here, I'm assuming ten wins? Is that going 160 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: to be enough not to win your division? Tampa could 161 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: end up on the road in Dallas or New York 162 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: for the playoffs, Philadelphia for the playoffs on the road, Yeah, McClement. Yeah, 163 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a heavy favorite if they get one 164 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: of those teams, will they Yeah? I don't. I have 165 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: no idea right now. Mean, they barely beat the Giants. 166 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: I like the Bears. I imagine if you what are 167 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: they like five and five now with Brady? They No, 168 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to go down this road. Andy, It's like, 169 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: this is stupid. I don't want to do this. I mean, 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with something that's happening now. But you said 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians might be the wrong style. That's why I 172 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: was saying, but he's there. You can change this style 173 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: he's not. Can you? Yes, of course you can. I 174 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: feel like Arians is so set in his way. We 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: saw it last light. He just wouldn't He's kept going downfield. Yeah, 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: but I'm not into revisionist history. Maybe you should have 177 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: stayed with the Patriots. I mean, he's there in Tampa. Now, 178 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: what do you do? Now? How do you make this better? 179 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: And I know it's week to week, primetime standalone game. 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: We do this, we dissect it even more. I just 181 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know if Tom Brady is capable of being a 182 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: consistent deep ball passer. He has more interceptions now, at 183 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: this stage than need it all of last year. That's concerning. 184 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: I know it's a new team getting used to Gronk 185 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown in there. I get all of those things, 186 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: but this is Brady in the expectation levels should be 187 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: hind Yeah, I was gonna. I'm from one stupid topic 188 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: to another, if you'll allow me. All right, do we 189 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: dive into the snub yet? Or should we save that 190 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: for later in the show? I want to. I want 191 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: to bring that up here in a moment. Masterclass offers 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: over ninety classes on a variety of topics, all top 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: by world class masters at the top of their field, 194 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: and this holiday, when you buy an annual membership, get 195 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: another annual membership for free. Go to masterclass dot com 196 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: slash patrick. That's masterclass dot com slash patrick. No, there 197 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: is not a class on throwing the deep ball by 198 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: Tom Brady with master Class. Oh dang, that's a shot. Okay, 199 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: now I just heat up that stupid question. I'm hearing 200 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: Paul also has a stupid topic. Do you want to 201 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: hear Paul's stupid topic before diving into the snub? Is 202 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: it stupider than your stupid topic? Yes? Okay, I guarantee 203 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: you the Rams will not win the Super Bowl till 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: they ditch those uniforms. Bad uniforms last time. Yeah, and 205 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: they can't play in the super Bowl looking like that. 206 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: I like the Rams. I think they're a good team, 207 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: but the way they look right now, they cannot advance 208 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It felt like they didn't finish the 209 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: uniform like they started and they said, oh, come on, 210 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: we gotta go, and then all of a sudden they 211 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: just took the uniforms and put them on and like 212 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Penn State, all right, I can let Penn State or 213 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: give them a hall pance. They have a classy look 214 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: to them. Rams uniform not good last night kind of that. 215 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: It looks like a practice uniform that's a little dingy. 216 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: And they said let's fire up these new blue numbers 217 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: and slap them on the practice shot him again. I 218 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: like the Rams. They had the best, some of the 219 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: best uniforms in history. Not right now, all right, Seaton, 220 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: bring up your stupid or comment. Well, one, it's stupid 221 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: that things like this are even a topic point of 222 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: like who dat or didn't shake hands? But damn Tom, 223 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: just shake the man's hand. What do you have to do? 224 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: That for you know, it's gonna be a thing, is it? Like? 225 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Does he deliberately do that? Because he knew he threw 226 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: two picks? And he's like, well, I'd rather talk about 227 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: snubbing Jared Goff than I would about the two interceptions 228 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: I threw. Well, he had to talk about the two 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: interceptions he threw. I don't know if he talked about 230 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: this snow, but I don't get it. Just shake his hand. 231 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: It takes no effort. You do that with Aaron Rodgers 232 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees, but you don't do that with Jared 233 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Goff and Nick Foles. Come on, we're checking the numbers. 234 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Does he only shake hands after wins Brady this season? 235 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: We're checking the number? Did you see Aaron Rodgers after 236 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: the game with Philip Rivers? I'm gonna guess they spent 237 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: five minutes together talking like a like a real conversation 238 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: in the Saint Almos Yet. Yeah, I trumpet's real good. Yeah, 239 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: that sauce is really hot. I know, it's like a 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: punch of it and then it's gone. How many kids 241 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: you got? Now? Yeah? I lost Jack too. Yeah, but 242 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: they spent about five minutes talking to one another. I 243 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: don't know why Tom doesn't do that. Just acknowledge. You know, 244 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: this is a big deal for Jared Golf. It makes 245 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: golf feels secondary, I think in people's eyes, like, oh, Tom, 246 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: he won't acknowledge Jared Goff, he won't acknowledge all Nick 247 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: Foles after the Super Bowl. Just go over and just 248 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: give him dap and then just say, hey, good games, 249 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: see you, nice job. That's it. I mean, I understand 250 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: you know Harborn Vrabel not shaking hands after the Titans 251 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: Ravens game that was heated. I get it, but this 252 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: you're through an interception. Jared Goff didn't have anything to 253 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: do with it. Schover and acknowledge it. Yeah, boy. After 254 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Tampa beat the Bears earlier season, the cameras are always 255 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: trained to get that quarterback handshake, and there's this camera 256 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: on Foles. He's looking around like his dog just ran 257 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: out in the traffic, and there's Brady at full tilt. 258 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Go to the locker room and just you see falls 259 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: going where's he? Where's he? Well, we had him on 260 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: the next day and I said, how did that feel? 261 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: And you go, oh, you know, no big deal, Like 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: he was trying to blow it off because he's nick Foles, 263 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: but I would be like, give me a break, dude, 264 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: We'll see. That's the thing. Maybe there is a good 265 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: reason that they don't do it. And quarterbacks are like, oh, 266 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: it's fine. But watching now, you know, Twitter is full 267 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: of Jared Goff looking all over the field and dapping 268 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: every other player. And he's looking and he's going high 269 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: try to find where Tom is to see at least 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: that's what you think he's doing. It just looks so bad. Yeah, 271 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: it is a bad look. It is. I get you're frustrated. Well, 272 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: every year when I lose the Sports Emmy, I still 273 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: congratulate Bob Costas. Yes, but these, uh, if you watch 274 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter, there's all these headlines about Brady and they're 275 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: very careful if to not accused of anything. Tom Brady 276 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: appears to snub Jared Goff and post him appears to. 277 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: They can't just say he snubbed him appears to because 278 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to offend him. Wait, how does it 279 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: appear he snubbed him? He snubbed him? All signs point 280 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: to a snubbing question, because you don't you don't know 281 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: for sure that they were snubbed. Maybe he had said 282 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: something earlier. You know, maybe there was a pregame like, hey, 283 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: good luck, but hey, I'm not gonna shake your hand 284 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: after the game, but good luck today. I don't know. 285 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Oh so you're giving the postgame handshake in the pregame, right, okay, Right? 286 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: What if Golf said that to Brady, Hey, hey, I'm 287 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: not gonna shake your hands posed, but let me just 288 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: give you some dab. Now, Yeah, it's Brady to be like, great, 289 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: thank you because I get to get to the locker 290 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: room because we're gonna beat you at nighttime. Just make sure, 291 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: though that you're the one that snubbed to me, not 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: that I snubbed you. Okay, I know it's not supposed 293 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: to be a big deal, but it becomes a bigger 294 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: deal because it's Brady, Like I expect him to be 295 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: a classy even in defeat. This isn't a big deal. 296 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: It's fifteen seconds of just acknowledging somebody who doesn't get acknowledged, 297 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, the way Brady does or Mahomes does or 298 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Rogers does. And that's where you to go. Jared Golf 299 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: beat you last night, Acknowledge Nick Foles beat you earlier 300 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: in this season. Acknowledge it yah see, and it's like 301 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it's part of the responsibility of being the greatest quarterback 302 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: of all time, is that that handshake for you, it 303 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: means more to everybody else that it's important. It's part 304 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of like almost your contract. You have to do that. 305 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a great point. It is. It is a great point. 306 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: That's that's like the you know, heavy as a head 307 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: that wears the crown. Yeah, dude, because you have to 308 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: go shake these dudes because they're not going to be great, 309 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: and that getting that acknowledgement means the world to those people. 310 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if Brady was asked about this post game, 311 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: but maybe Marvin, who gathers the sound, can look for that. 312 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: I got I got a few things from Arians and Brady, 313 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: but even Jared Golf he just talked about the win. 314 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: He didn't I don't know if he was asked about 315 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the snub, but maybe we can find something on there. 316 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what Tom's philosophy is on that or 317 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: what is you know, you lost, you got caught up, 318 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: you're lost, You're disappointed, okay, we Yeah, maybe it was 319 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: bedtime because Tom likes to get to bed early and 320 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: that game went late. He likes to get in bed 321 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: by around nine to fifteen, So maybe he just said, look, 322 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I was tired. I got to get to bed. Yeah, 323 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Brady's holding out for Monday afternoon football like a four 324 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: o'clock start. What kind of poll questions do we have? McLevin? 325 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: How about is a consensus on Brady? Is this a 326 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: question fair? Will Tom Brady win a playoff game this year? Like? 327 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: What's the expectation? Because I don't think we're talking super 328 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Bowl yet? I mean, how far is it? Basically? Why 329 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady toast or is he still good? I 330 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: don't know how Yeah, I would never write him off. 331 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no no, not until 332 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: he retires. I've learned. Man. I would never write him off, 333 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: especially in a playoff game. But I am curious there's 334 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: a disconnect somewhere on that offense. I'm not quite sure 335 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: what it is, but there's a disconnect there. I don't 336 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: know if it's what Tom wants to do or what 337 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Bruce arians wants to do, but last night it was 338 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: evident there. Maybe they rectify that, but you got Kansas 339 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: City coming up, and then you have a bye week, 340 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: and then you should be able to squeeze out. I'm 341 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: guessing three more wins. So you're ten and six and 342 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: you're going to be on the road first round of 343 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That doesn't bode well. What other poll questions 344 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: do you have? All Right? I was gonna ask something 345 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: you brought a pre show who do you trust in 346 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: the NFC? Like who's the favorite? Is there? And you 347 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in the segment two is there? Like one team? 348 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: The Saints look great, but Breeze is injured. Yeah, but 349 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: they look really good. They look good against the Bucks. 350 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: That's the one. Yeah, they did great, Yeah they did 351 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: um Packers. See what the Packers did in the second 352 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: half concerns me. You know, they went three and out 353 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times. The offense it felt like, uh 354 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: got to a point they said that's it, we got enough. 355 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: We're up two touchdowns here. And as much as I 356 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: want to put it on the defense to allow the 357 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: Colts to come back, I gotta put a little bit 358 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: on the offense as well. I don't know if they 359 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: took the foot off the accelerator, but it just felt 360 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: like we're up two touchdowns, we're gonna beat the Colts. Um. 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have concerns about everybody. I mean, it 362 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: feels like everybody in the NFC has flawed. Yeah club. 363 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: Speaking of flawed, I have one more pole question. Who's 364 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: winning that NFC East. I don't care. Somebody's got to 365 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: win it, I know, but I don't care. I don't. 366 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: I gotta take a week off from it. I mean, 367 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: the most exciting thing out of the NFC East was 368 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy smashing watermelons. Smashing watermelons prior to the game, 369 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: he went Gallagher and that's how he fired up the 370 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys with their game against Minnesota. Yes time, but don't 371 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you want the Cowboys to find a way to win 372 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: the division? Isn't it better for sports talking for us 373 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: when Dallas is a team that's in it as opposed 374 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to I mean, they're the three that are far lessened. Sure, sure, 375 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: but I have to take a week off from the 376 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: NFC East because it feels like every every single week 377 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: it's Giants getting better. Carson Wentz needs to be benched. 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: What's wrong with the Cowboys? Could the Cowboys win this? 379 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts needs to be in there. Hey, the Giants 380 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: could win. Hey, don't rule out Washington. It feels like 381 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: there's we just keep extracting storylines teams that aren't any good. 382 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a week off. Yeah, Paul, I thought 383 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy sledgehammer or watermelon story was a bit 384 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: a goof. That's a real story. Do you think he 385 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: went in cold? Like he didn't practice at home? You 386 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: think you'd want to practice? Or you can nail it. 387 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can't laugh? Like if I 388 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: was in there and my coach started smashing watermelons, I go, God, 389 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: we're in trouble. Or I want to play harder and 390 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: try to win this weekend because he's smashing watermelons with 391 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: the result. No, but I don't want him doing it again. Oh, 392 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: you gotta You can't break the streak. You don't mess 393 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: with a streak when you're winning. Yet you gotta go 394 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: watermelons every week now? You never mess with a streak. Dan, 395 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: you're an former athlete. You know that. Yes, Todd, shouldn't 396 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: you be smashing pumpkins leading up to Thanksgiving? If you're 397 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: gonna pick something, that would be the way to go. 398 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: That'd be Halloween but still fall Thanks you people, pumpkin pie. 399 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: You could have done. Pumpkins. You know, the day's leading 400 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: up to Thanksgiving? Why watermelon? It's fair if it was 401 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: a summer sport. Yeah, more seasonally appropriate the pumpkin. Yes, 402 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: maybe you can mash potatoes this week. Oh you know 403 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: what's speaking of? Which? Todd, do you have your Turkey 404 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: Day related sports names for tomorrow? Of course I added 405 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: a few late last night, or even a couple earlier 406 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: this morning. I think I have like sixty five names, 407 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: and you're gonna hate probably sixty two. Well, you're not 408 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna do all sixty five. I will do as many 409 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: as you allow me to do. I'm gonna give you ten, ten, ten, 410 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: I'll give you a ten. I'll give you fifty. It depends. 411 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: You get to go as long as you're good. Okay, 412 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: that's fair. We're going. Maybe it's like a free strikes 413 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and you'll decide then once we get 414 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: to the third strike. That'll be tomorrow tomorrow. We'll have 415 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: that for you and Aaron Rodgers tomorrow. Aaron Rodgers tomorrow. 416 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: How about that? All right? Great? We got him after 417 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: a loss. Can't wait? All right, we'll take a break. Wow, 418 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: we're getting back to up here. We'll check in with 419 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Dave Lapham is the Baals radio color analyst. 420 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: His thoughts on Joe Burrow going down I mentioned yesterday 421 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: at this time I thought it was a more serious 422 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: knee injury, and it turns out that's the case. I 423 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: think you're looking at at least a nine month to 424 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: twelvemonth rehab process here for Joe Burrow. I don't know 425 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: if he'll be ready for the start of next season. 426 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: I think it might be one of those where it 427 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: could be in the you know, once they get into 428 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the season, Joe Burrow might be able to come back, 429 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: but it's a long process, at least nine months, maybe 430 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: up to twelve months for Joe Burrow. Thanks for listening 431 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 432 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or 433 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 434 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports 435 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 436 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or stream 437 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. The Big Story yesterday 438 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: we were talking about the blame game with the Bengals. 439 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is out looks like it's going to be 440 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: maybe nine months, maybe up to twelve months. There's some 441 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: structural damage, it looks like in there. And we reached 442 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: out to Dave Lapham. Dave as a former offensive lineman 443 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: for the Bengals and he has been the color analyst 444 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: on radio for the Bengals for thirty five years now 445 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: and he joins us on the program. Dave, what's the 446 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: local reaction to Joe Burrow's injury? Since that you go through, 447 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, crestfallen, disappointment, can't believe it, everything, everything, and 448 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: all all emotions that you can imagine. I think the 449 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: worst nightmare came true. What about blame, Yeah, there's a 450 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: lot of that going around, but he's uh, everybody's suits 451 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: dirty there. When an injury like that occurs, the reaction 452 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: is emotional and blame is going from ownership to coaches, 453 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: to players, to everything, everything and all inclusive for sure. 454 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: But you're a former offensive lineman, assess that offensive line 455 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: and should Joe Burrow have been attempting at least forty 456 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: pousses per game? Well, you know, the offensive line. Honestly, 457 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's there's not there's maybe eight offensive 458 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: lines in football that I think are really a cut 459 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: above everybody else. Is just offensive line play, in my opinion, 460 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: is not good in the NFL overall. I mean, I 461 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: keep reading about teams giving up six sacks, eight sacks. 462 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: I was spending that in that department. Is it even average? 463 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you could even say that it approaches 464 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: average at this point in time. But they were. They 465 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: were getting better. And part of the reason they were 466 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: getting better was because Joe Burrow was starting to understand 467 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: that he had to get the ball out of his 468 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: hand very quickly and the rhythm and coordination and timing 469 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: of her and it was going on between Joe and 470 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: his offensive line. Was this important? Is that had to 471 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: go on? But beween Joe and his receivers. So they were. 472 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: They were growing together. Um but and that's the way 473 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: they how they had to approach it. In their mind 474 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: to win football games. Joe Barrow was clearly their best 475 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: player and felt like they had to throw the football 476 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: for Joe to win football games. With Joe Burrow and Dan, 477 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: a lot of their passing game was an extension of 478 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: the running game. A lot of these throwers were like 479 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: keep being the shotgun, catch a shotgun. Snap, find the laces, 480 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: throw it. I mean it was out and it wasn't. 481 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: It was almost like a long lateral. You know, he 482 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: had They ran screens, they ran you know, their quick 483 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: passing game was a big, big part of their offense, 484 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: particularly when they started to figure out that, you know, 485 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line and Joe were best married in that 486 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: type of a rhythm. So and it was it was 487 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: advancing um and unfortunately it's going to be put on 488 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: hold for a while. Zach Taylor coaching for his job. Dave, Well, 489 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: that's a good question, and you know it's uh with 490 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: with the injury that took place. Now it's just pure speculation. 491 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: They had a lead over a Washington football team they 492 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: felt like they could have beaten when Joe went out, 493 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: So you know, is your mindset, well, could have beaten 494 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: Washington and could have beaten some of these other teams 495 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: that are going to be coming up on the schedule 496 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: here with Joe Burrow, Is it fair of his act 497 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: to say that, you know, he's going to be greatered 498 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: on trying to beat these teams without Joe Burrow. I mean, 499 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: so many factors come into the equation. I guess, uh 500 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: In Mike Brown by nature, he's extremely patient with respect 501 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: to coaches. I think what Mobile did his dad left 502 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: a lifelong impression on him, and he his coaches benefit 503 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: of the doubt whenever, whenever it's it's questionable, he's gonna 504 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna sign on. You know, let's give him more time. 505 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: So I can't answer that question, but my feeling is 506 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: that with what just took place, I think Mike brown 507 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Is is not going to pull a quick trigger. Is 508 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: this franchise cursed boy? That's that's the first thing every 509 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: every fan talks about. You know, it's boy, welcome to 510 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: the curse. Joe, It's it's it's amazing. When I saw 511 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow go down, I immediately flash back to the 512 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: other number nine going down, Carson Palmer, and I said 513 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: the exact My first reaction was the exact same statement, 514 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Carson's down, hump Burrows down. I mean just almost like 515 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 1: I can't believe this almost the exact same type of situation. Now, 516 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: Carson wasn't high load, it was only load, but most 517 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: of the damage came from the low hit and it 518 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: was a clean you know, Clay, I was just a 519 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: bull rush and garden defensive tackle. Slam into the knee 520 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow, and the damage was because you know 521 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: you can pop an ECL just by a violent cut 522 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: and it just pops and no collateral damage. Well, this 523 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: was a traumatic injury and it just slammed. It went 524 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: the wrong and all the things go along with it. 525 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: So a CLMCL people thinking potentially PCL cartilage, you know, 526 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: God forbid nerve damage. All these things come to your 527 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: mind because of that traumatic injury, and there is extensive 528 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: damage there. It's not just a CLMCL was my understanding. 529 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: They won't know exactly how bad it is till they 530 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: go they do the surgery and then have to let 531 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: swelling subside before they even do that. So um, you 532 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: know it's when when you look at it. Three of 533 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: their first picks of the draft tore acls. John the 534 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: Carters was a top ACL with a violent cut up 535 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: in Detroit in the preseason. Carson Palmas was traumatic, Joe 536 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: Barrows was traumatic. Man wouldn't want to be the first 537 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: pick of the draft for the Bengals. I guess that's 538 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: a curse. Any chance the Bengals bring in Colin Kaepernick, 539 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that one. That one would that 540 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: would be an interesting one. I think I think that 541 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: there they obviously they elevated Alan from the practice squad 542 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: because he small system and all that sort of thing, 543 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: and Dola Gala is on the Patriots practice squad. He's 544 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: a guy that has been in the Bengals organization very recently, 545 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: and they hell up a pretty good handle on what 546 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: he's about. I wonder how strong the conversations are with 547 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: respect to Colin Kaepernick. That's one that obviously comes to mind. 548 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: It hit the King to my mind, But I just 549 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: wonder I don't have any kind of a handle on 550 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: where they are in that regard. David's good to talk to. 551 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: You keep stirring it up. We love the excitement and 552 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: we appreciate you jooning us my pleasure. Dan, Thank you, sir. 553 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 554 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 555 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Last season, 556 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: Michigan State went twenty two and nine. They will open 557 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: up tomorrow against Eastern Michigan, currently ranked thirteenth in the nation, 558 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: and their longtime head coach Tom Izzo joining US coach. 559 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: How you feeling feeling better. Dan, Thanks, how are you doing? 560 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? But you had COVID? How bad was it? 561 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: You know? It wasn't real bad? But it was no 562 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: joke either, you know. I listened to people talk about 563 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: how it just comes and goes. It It took me 564 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen days and I was quarantine for eleven of them, 565 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: and then I just you know, never felt real, real bad, 566 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: thank god, but never felt comfortable either. So I'm glad 567 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm heading down the right direction. In the last two 568 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: three days, I've actually been in practice yesterday full go. 569 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: Plan on being there today and I don't know, I 570 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: plan on being there tomorrow. So that's the game plan 571 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: right now. What are the protocols there for your team? 572 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: Day in and dawn? We get tested every day here. 573 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: We're in that ANAGIN testing so we're testing every morning 574 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: at seven thirty in the morning. And I think that 575 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: helped because it helps for the contact trade seeing as 576 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: far as the spreading of the disease. But the virus, 577 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: but you know, it's uh right now. We've had some 578 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: kids that had it early, like in September when school started, 579 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: and we've been pretty COVID free other than this crazy coach, 580 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, and I think I won't to every pro 581 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: protocol that I could go through. And as far as 582 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: uh fans in the stands, will there be fans? No, 583 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: we're not. You know, uh most of the Big ten 584 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't think will. But it does go more by 585 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: state by state, as you know. And so right now 586 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: for us in Michigan, I think the protocol here is 587 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: there'll be no fans in the stands. As far as 588 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: trying to bubbleize this season or you know, what are 589 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: we doing with march madness? Where do you stand on 590 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: this of trying to get this season in and doing 591 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: it as safely as possible. Well, I'm big, I'm trying 592 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: to get the season in, and I'm big, I'm trying 593 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: to do it as safely as possible. I'm a I'm 594 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: a mask word myself, and yet it didn't serve me 595 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: as well as i'd hope. But you know, I think 596 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: until we get to the brunt of it, and that 597 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: is going to be uh get the young kids to 598 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: uh you know who don't get as sick maybe but 599 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: are transmitting it. You see what we're in right now 600 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: in our country, and I don't want to get into 601 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: all the political stuff because I'm not a politician. All 602 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I know is that I believe we've got to We've 603 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: got to take care of ourselves and worry about the 604 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: people around us. And if we do that, I think 605 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: we'll build a manage it. I really do. How do 606 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: you get this message through to an eighteen year old? Well, 607 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: I got one at home, twenty year old and nineteen 608 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: year old, I guess, and I've got a twenty four 609 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: year old, and of course I've got a fifteen seventeen 610 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: to twenty two year olds every year of my life 611 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: and this job. And you know, you beg borrow, you steal, you, 612 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: you plead, you get other people to tell stories. You 613 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: you look at what's out there. I scour all places 614 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: like yours, and you know when you guys have stories 615 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: about different things, good bedding and different And just try 616 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: to relate him because me lecturing doesn't really do it. 617 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: But the NBA has helped me, and because of the 618 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: bubble they did. And I said, if Lebron James can 619 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: spend three months without seeing his family or friends, you 620 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: know it's part of sacrificing. And sacrificing isn't a word. 621 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Accountability And sacrifice I think left the Webster's Dictionary in 622 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So we've got to get 623 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: that back a little bit. There's got to be a 624 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: little sacrifice for all of us, and this is how 625 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: I try to preach it to our players. How's recruiting 626 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: changed at a Zoom, just like I'm doing with you? 627 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, can I sign you? I got one year 628 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: of eligibility left. Yeah, but the gene pools has been 629 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: shrinking the years. I know, I know, but hey, your 630 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: team last year, boy, I'll tell you what you had best, 631 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: maybe the best team in the country, and it was 632 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: a shame it ended that way. But for us, recruiting 633 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: has gone pretty well. I think people like hearing me 634 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: on Zoom better than they do seeing me in person, 635 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: because we've actually had a pretty good recruiting year. You 636 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: got Umani Bates, he's given a verbal commitment to Michigan 637 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: State for twenty twenty two. Well, I can't talk about 638 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: any anybody who has not signed, Okay, So even a 639 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: verbal commitment, you can't talk about somebody okay, Oh yeah, 640 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe violent. I don't know. I don't want to get 641 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: you in trouble there. I was just curious because it 642 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: seems like this this recruit, possible recruit could be like 643 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: a Lebron James type of talent there. But when you're selling, 644 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: are you selling to parents more on zoom? Are you 645 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: selling to the kid? You know, it's been interesting. The 646 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: one advantage I think we've had in our recruiting right 647 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: now is you're dealing more with parents and the kid 648 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: compared to you know, when you're when you're allowed out, 649 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: and there's so many people involved. There seems to be 650 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: there is a you know, a posse of people involved 651 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: in this recruiting, and I think this has kind of 652 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: caused everybody to home into family and that's worked better 653 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: for us, to be honestly, and I think a lot 654 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: of people so hopefully it brings things back in order. 655 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: That would be great, I think for the recruiting process 656 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: in general. Where are we headed with college basketball in 657 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: the styles in college basketball? Because I don't know if 658 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: college emulates the NBA or is it vice versa? But 659 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: where are we with the three pointer? You know that 660 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: philosophy shoots seven seconds or less? Is college basketball embracing that? 661 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: You know? It's been funny to watch because I'm with you, 662 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, you watch, you're seeing these quarterbacks in the NFL, 663 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: and it's almost like the NFL is starting to embrace college, 664 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: where normally the pecking order is we do what the 665 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: pros do and then it filters down into the high schools. 666 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: But I think there is more three point shooting in college. 667 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's just the way the game is. 668 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: It seems like you're either duncan or shooting the three. 669 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: The mid range game of Michael Jordan and guys like 670 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: that is kind of disappearing. But I think you're going 671 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: to see the big man come back a little bit. 672 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: I really do. I I don't think it's gonna be 673 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: all running, gun and shoot and that's how you're gonna win. 674 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the Rockets, you know, weren't as successful doing that, 675 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: you know. I think I think that the team that 676 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: really I've appreciated, probably because I get Draymond there. But 677 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at Golden State, UM, they 678 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: shoot a lot of threes, but they run a lot 679 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: they did to get the ball inside, and they're very 680 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: good defensively, and I think that's what gets lost in 681 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: the shuffle. Everything's just an offensive game now. I think 682 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers won because they were very good defensive. I 683 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: think Miami got to the finals because they were very 684 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: good defensively. Give me the player that you're you're I 685 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: don't want to say shock, that's not fair to the player, 686 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: but you're really surprised at what you saw in college. 687 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: He's so much better than that in the pros. Wow, 688 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: you know you mean one of my players? No? No, somebody, Yeah, 689 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: anybody you coached against where you went. Wow, I did 690 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: not see that coming. Like Clay Thompson, I did not 691 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: see that coming. I would agree to that. We didn't 692 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: play against Clay, but uh, you know, I didn't see that. Hey, 693 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Seth Curry, I mean Steph Curry, I mean I didn't. 694 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. Like what he's done. It's 695 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: it's it's fun to watch guys. Um. You know, I 696 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: recruited the Booker kid, and I thought he'd be a 697 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: good player. But he's turning out to be a phenomenal player. 698 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: You know. It's fun to watch guys that you know 699 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: you thought would be good players and get to be 700 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: great players. And I don't know after that was a 701 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: tough question right off the right off the go, but 702 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: I think guys that are getting better in college every 703 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: year have a tend get better in pro ball every year, 704 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: and it's been fun to watch the resurgence. Like I 705 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: really enjoyed watching Miami this year. Yeah, they play so 706 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: hard to silk talk. They're so pat riley Isshan and 707 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: their head coach Bolstra. You know, it was almost like 708 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: give Jimmy Butler a lot of credit. He reinvented himself 709 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: and it was fun team to watch. But also I 710 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: look at Lebron and when I talked to younger basketball players, 711 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: I say, always add something, keep adding something, keep adding something. 712 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: The great players keep adding. You know, Mike would take 713 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: you down on the blocks, and Jordan added that late 714 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: to his game. Kobe did the same thing. Magic developed 715 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: a little bit better jump shot or set shot there, 716 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: and then you see Lebron. Lebron is going to extend 717 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: his greatness by extending his ability to shoot the three 718 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: point shot. He doesn't have to go in into dunk 719 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: and he's still one of the great passers of all time. 720 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: And I always say, look to those guys, they kept adding. 721 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: And sometimes players get to a certain level and then 722 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: they stop. And as a coach, how do you get 723 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: them to take that next step to go. You were 724 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: great in high school, that doesn't mean anything once you 725 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: get to college. And then when you get to the pros, well, 726 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: I think what I've learned about Lebron or Kobe Bryant, 727 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: You're right, they add to their game, but you know 728 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: what they've added to more than anything, is to their bodies. 729 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: They take care of themselves, you know. I mean kids 730 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: nowadays are reckless, you know, And I think you know 731 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: in Lebron James, what he's done with his body and 732 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: what he's invested, if you read anything about him, is incredible. 733 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's added a jump shot, he's a 734 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: better jump shooter. But I think the two intangibles that 735 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: separate Lebron James right now is physically his body or 736 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: how he's kept it, and his leadership skills. I mean, 737 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I watched different guys go to them and they just 738 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: become better players when they're around him. He has a 739 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: way of demanding but not being abrasive. I don't I 740 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know what he's like when you're there, but his 741 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: leadership skills. So as guys develop things, a lot of times, 742 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: the last thing they want to develop his leadership skills 743 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: or their own personalities. You know, I hear a lot 744 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: from parents, Well that's his personality. Well, you want me 745 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: to change a jump shot, You want me to change 746 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: his strength, you want me to change his ball and skills? 747 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes his personality? Is that what separates the Tom Brady's 748 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: or the Lebron James or Magic Johnson was you know, 749 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: one of the ultimate leaders who makes people around them better. 750 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: And that's a hard skill to find. Right now, Dan, 751 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: do you have that kind of green carpet at home? Now? 752 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: I just got it right here, man, and I'm gonna 753 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: send you some if you want again, would go good 754 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: with your ensemble air that you got? Has anything been 755 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: thrown in that office before? Oh? Yeah, that couple of 756 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: those chairs, h you know. Yeah, you know we're in 757 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: a big ten, so we you know, ask Bobby Knight. 758 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: We throw chairs and stuff. And it's been a fun 759 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: office when I look back. It's been in this office 760 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: now twenty one years of my twenty five and a 761 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: lot of great guys have come to it. A lot 762 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: of interesting late night meetings in this office, but it's 763 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: been fun. What's the coolest thing in your office? The 764 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: coolest thing in my office? Jerieus. I don't know. It's 765 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: probably a picture of my parents. You know, I missed 766 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: my dad and I think of them awful but often. 767 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: But I got a lot of cool things in here. 768 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: There's memories and a lot of guys that help make 769 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: me who I am. So I get to be on 770 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: your show. Well, coach, good luck tomorrow night, more importantly, 771 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: the entire season Eastern Michigan against Michigan State. Good to 772 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: talk to you again, coach. Glad you're feeling better well, 773 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: Thanks Dan. Keep masking up, stays safe and I'll look 774 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you it down the road and maybe 775 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: one day we can talk about that basketball recruit that 776 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: could be coming in twenty twenty two. Sounds good, all right, 777 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, coach. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 778 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch up us live every 779 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 780 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 781 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 782 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. He's Josh Dumel back on the program. 783 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 1: Got a new movie. It's called Buddy Games and it's 784 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: a after a falling out six lifelong friends reunite to 785 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: play the Buddy Games, an insane competition filled with the 786 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: absurd physical and mental challenges. Now all bets are off 787 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: as the determined pounds fights claw and party for the 788 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: chance to win one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. How 789 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: did I do with that voice over there, Josh? That 790 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: was beautiful? You know, I almost wish I'd made a 791 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: different creative decision there Dan and had me voice it 792 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: over exactly. I could do it. I always wanted to 793 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: do you know what DVD commentary, but I always wanted 794 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: to do that in a world, And then that's how 795 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: all these movie trailers start in a world. You know, 796 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: those guys who do those make a lot of money. 797 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: That would be a good zide hustle for you. Yeah, 798 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: you could do it. I'd like that. We spent the 799 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: last four minutes prior to coming on googling who you're 800 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: dating mclovin. Who is Josh dating right now? Well? I 801 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: have you know, it's hard to keep track of this. 802 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: Herd had drum Molly mari Mariya. Is she from North Dakota? 803 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: She is from North Dakota? Is she there? She's there now? Yes, 804 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: I was just there two days ago. Oh, but she's 805 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: not there at your place. No, no, no no, no, she's not. 806 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: She's she's she's actually in Fargo. Okay, But you couldn't 807 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: date somebody from South Dakota, could you? Well, I could 808 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: date somebody from anywhere, but I choose to date her. Well, 809 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: I know, but but you're from North Dakota. Would you 810 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: date somebody from South Dakota? That would be weird? No, No, 811 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you have something against South Dakota? 812 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I have nothing. I have nothing against you know, she's 813 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: actually got a place, she's her family. He has a 814 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: late cabin like less than an hour from mine out there, 815 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't know that when I first met. It 816 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: was sort of a chance, uh, you know, one of 817 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: those one of those lucky little circumstances. But not wedding bells. 818 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: We're just we're dating Dan. Really what, I'm gonna plug 819 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: the movie, but I gotta get a little gossip in here. 820 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: I gotta make entertainment tonight. Come on. She she is 821 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: a keeper. I'll put it that, she's definitely a keeper. 822 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 1: How's Axel doing. He's doing great. He's he's still asleep. 823 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: We went to bed a little late. Last night. I 824 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: was up, I was, I was gone all day yesterday 825 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: doing pressed for this movie, and he was he wanted 826 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: some daddy time, so we spent We watched The Hotel 827 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: for Dogs last night, you know, and he stayed up 828 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: a little past his bedtime. So you still sleep and 829 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: no school this week? Does he know what you do 830 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: for a living? Sure? He hasn't seen this movie, though 831 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: he probably won't for another ten years. All Right, some 832 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: big stars in here. You got Olivia mun you got 833 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Dillon, Nick Schwartzen, Dak Shepherd. Pretty good, pretty good 834 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: list there. Now do you have to go recruit him? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 835 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: that was That was a whole horse trade right there. 836 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: I had to get, as you know, you have to 837 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: get certain people with a certain what they call Q number, 838 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: which which means I have a certain international value. And 839 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: Dax and Olivia had enough to sort of get me 840 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: Greenland for this movie. So I went to Olivia and 841 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: I said, hey, Olivia, Um, Dax is in if you 842 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: want to if you want to do I went to 843 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: Dax and say, hey, So I had to pull I 844 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: had to pull every trick in the book to get 845 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: this thing right. But but the Q rating explain that though. 846 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: Is that how movies are made or some movies that 847 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: may not get made, they get made because of somebody's 848 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: Q rating who comes in. Yes, I mean they based. Now, 849 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: I really don't agree with this whole formula they go 850 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: by because I don't think you know, but you know 851 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: what somebody's que reading in Germany and somebody's que reading 852 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: in Korea. How that helps make a better movie. I'd 853 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: rather get the right two people for the movie than 854 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, depend on something form But they what they 855 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: do is they have they can then pre sell all 856 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: the money, sort of like hedging their bet before they 857 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: even finance the movie. Uh, we're talking to Josh Dumel. 858 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: The movie is called Buddy Games. When's it to Is 859 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: it released? This the Thanksgiving weekend? Today? Oh? Today? Yeah? 860 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: Oh good? Yeah, so we got we got a great release. 861 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: Ron is a great This is the best weekend we 862 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: could have asked for. Honestly, um, four hundred screens right now, 863 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 1: which is good considering you know what we're what we're 864 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of. Uh so yeah, it's it's um. 865 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: You know, as you know, this has been a long 866 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: time coming. This has been something I've had to you know, 867 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 1: push and pull and drag and kick uh for for 868 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: for years to get it done, and it's it's been. 869 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,439 Speaker 1: It's I just can't wait for people to see it now, 870 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: is it? Is there a love scene with you? Um? Yes, 871 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: there is a love scene. It's really romantic. You should 872 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: check it out. Well, give me a little bit more 873 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: than that. Is there a woman involved? All right? So 874 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: it's me and Olivia and we're at my parents place 875 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning for brunch and she decides to 876 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: spice things up a little bit, so she she, you know, 877 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: sort of stops me in the bathroom as I'm washing 878 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: my hands and it sort of happens right there. So yeah, 879 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,959 Speaker 1: it's not the most romantic love thing you've ever seen. 880 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 1: H And the scene itself, I'm sort of looking at myself. 881 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: There's a there's a picture of myself as a child 882 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: as I'm doing it, and I have to stop because 883 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: it's too uncomfortable. I feel like I'm staring my childhood 884 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: self is staring at me. But how But are they 885 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: always awkward when you do love scenes? Yeah? I mean yeah, 886 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: they're they're not. They're not nearly as fun as they 887 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: might look on screen because you know, you've got a 888 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: bunch of hairy camera dudes around, and you know, you 889 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: sound guys, and you know, there's grips and gaffers all around. 890 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: So it's it's never as sort of sensual as it 891 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: might appear on screen. It's pretty uncomfortable. Actually. Why I 892 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: was in a Sandler movie Blended, and I had to 893 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: kiss a woman and I just met her, and Wendy 894 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: Kovie McClendon, I think from the goldbergs oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 895 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: So Sandler says it's not in the script, and then 896 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 1: Sandler goes, Danny, I think you need to kiss Wendy, 897 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: and I mean I didn't. I didn't know her. And 898 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: next thing I know, you know, Sandler goes okay, action 899 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: and then I'm kissing Wendy Kovie McClendon, and I go, 900 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: how awkward is this? But it's not like that with 901 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: you guys, like you know Olivia mund don't you Well, yes, 902 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: I do know Olivia, But you know, sometimes that's the 903 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: way it is that awkward because I've done things worth 904 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 1: you know that as you know, they shoot these things 905 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: out of order, and I sees where I just met 906 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: the girl five minutes earlier, and we have to do 907 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: like the love scene first first day of the first 908 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, of shooting. So it's it's it's it's not 909 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: the worst, but it's not. It's just truly part of 910 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: the job. Wendy McClendon Kovie Fortz is telling me, I 911 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: had it in reverse order. So, Wendy McClendon covie, a 912 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: very talented woman from the Goldbergs, how would you assess 913 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: your vikings? Well, we are, you know, I just feel 914 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: like the Vikes this year, for whatever reason, we got 915 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: off to a really slow start, won what two games 916 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: in our row, almost three games in our own and 917 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: then lose to the Cowboys last week. So I don't 918 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: it's I don't feel like this is probably our year. 919 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: I never count them out, but I don't know until 920 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: we get that quarterback that I feel I can put 921 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: us over the top. I don't. I don't think it's 922 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: going to be any different than any of years past. 923 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh so you're off the Kirk Cousins bandwagon. I have 924 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: been for a couple of years now, you have. I 925 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: remember talking to Josh when he left the stadium after 926 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: that was a playoff game, right a couple of years ago. 927 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: M was that that was the oh that was in 928 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: that was in Minnesota. After wals schmiss that twenty four 929 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: yard field goal this Seattle game. Yes, oh my god, 930 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: oh god. It's like it's like there's a new way. 931 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: They find a new way to break your heart every year. 932 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: And then he calls and I know that he just 933 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: lost in dramatic fashion. And you know, just like I 934 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: missed that hurt As a fan, I don't have that 935 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: because I don't root for anybody. I root for a storyline, 936 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: but to have the high when it's really high, but 937 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: also that pain, the reason why it hurts so much 938 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 1: as you care so much. Yeah, and you know, Russell 939 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: Wilson just has our number. He's been doing this now 940 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: for a few years. He did it again this year. 941 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: If you remember the game, it was a game like 942 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: three or a game four. Dude just has the ability 943 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 1: to take a team back. And that's not to me, 944 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: is what the Vikings are missing is that quarterback. Who 945 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: can you know that if there's two minutes left, your 946 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: team still has a shot. You know, whether it's Aaron 947 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: Rodgers or you know Brady although he didn't play great 948 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: last night. You know, guys like Russell Wilson. You know 949 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: that those guys are going to give you a shot, 950 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: But does it hurt knowing that Green Bay still has 951 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers a little bit? Yeah, Yeah, they've had a 952 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: They've had a top quarterback now for twenty some years, 953 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 1: haven't they. Now, you didn't bring up Rodgers to Olivia 954 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: mun did you? Uh? No, why would I wait, didn't 955 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: she date? She dated Aaron Rodgers? You asked me if 956 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: I whispered that in her ear? Well, no, I was 957 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: just curious if if it came because you're a Viking fan, 958 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: she dated Aaron Rodgers. I didn't know if that would 959 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: come up in conversation. Break the ice a little bit. Yeah, 960 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: we talked about it. I mean, I love I love Aaron. 961 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: I think that he's you know, he's truly one of 962 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: the greatest armed talents I've ever seen. So as a 963 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: as a football fan, I wanted to pick her brain 964 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: about him. So, you know, what was he like? What 965 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: did he look like? I didn't ask her that, I 966 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: didn't think so. Uh the movie with You got Kevin 967 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: Dillon in here too, from Entourage, Jack Sheppard, Olivia Munn 968 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: and Nick's and Schwarty's great. He's crazy. Yeah, he's he's 969 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's crazy, all right, but he's he's fantastic 970 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: in this movie. Uh, he was a big he was 971 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: he was the first guy on board when we first 972 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: wrote it. And you know, it's it's this is I'm 973 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: truly excited for people to see it because it we've 974 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: shown it now in a few theaters and it absolutely 975 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: kills it's it's it's extreme. No dun, I'm gonna warn you. 976 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: It's a it's we push the envelope. You know, my 977 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: favorite movies are movies like you know, The Hangover in 978 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: Old School and Dumb and Dumber. So I wanted to 979 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: do something that sort of pushes the envelope like those 980 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: like Phillips and Fairly Brothers those those directors do, and 981 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, it works, and I'm excited for I'm excited 982 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: for people to see this thing after all these years. 983 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah it's been a while. You've been talking about this 984 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: for yeah five years now. Yeah. So it's I mean, 985 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: that's just that's because of a certain there's a few 986 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: there's a few reasons is for that. It was we 987 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 1: ended up um well I won't get into the legal stuff, 988 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: but we control the movie now, and you know, with 989 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: COVID everything else, we had to we had to push 990 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: it back to now, but ultimately we couldn't have asked 991 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: for a better day. I mean, I'm really excited about 992 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: this weekend and um, you know it's the perfect Thanksgiving movie. 993 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 1: It sounds like it. Yeah, fun for the entire family. Uh, 994 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving. And I think either you're ready to blow 995 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: a kiss to me or your screen just froze up. 996 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: But uh say good, say hello to Axel and uh 997 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 1: thank you, Josh, say yeah you are. Yeah, you froze 998 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: on me. All right, man, Happy Thanksgiving. You're gonna be 999 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: at the eighteen t this year. I don't know. We're 1000 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. I don't know. I don't 1001 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: know if I'm ready to travel with the entire group here. Well, 1002 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: I'd sure love to see you there. Man, Well, it 1003 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040 Speaker 1: would be great and we would love to go, but 1004 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. But have a great thanks Kevin, 1005 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: great to talk to your good luck with a movie. 1006 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,280 Speaker 1: All right, brother, thanks for having me. That's Josh Dumel. 1007 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: He's actor, writer, producer, director in the movie is Buddy Games. 1008 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1009 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: the Nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 1010 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f 1011 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: SR to listen live. He's Kyle Trask. I think he's 1012 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: the leading candidate for the Heisman. Feels like it's his 1013 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 1: heisman to lose, and it feels like he's an overnight sensation. Kyle, 1014 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: it took a long time for you to get to 1015 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: this point. If you were going to sum up your 1016 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: high school and college career leading up to this season, 1017 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: how would you do it? You know, I would just 1018 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: say it's been a crazy journey. It's been just a 1019 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: lot of hard work and just persistence and just trust 1020 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: in the process. And at the end of the day, 1021 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad to be where I am now 1022 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: and I want to have it any other way. But 1023 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: you were back up in high school. Did you start 1024 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: a game in high school? No? I never started a 1025 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: game in high school. Okay, so how did and then 1026 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: how long did it take before you started your first 1027 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: game in Florida? I almost got my degree at Florida 1028 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 1: fart even stepped foot on the field, So I mean 1029 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: I was going into my uh guess I didn't start 1030 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 1: until my red shirt junior year. That was last year. 1031 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: How do you explain this though that here you are, 1032 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: you thirty one touchdowns, three interceptions. I think you're the 1033 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: leading candidate for the Heisman right now. How do you 1034 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: explain this? Kyle? You know, I just like I said, 1035 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: I just trusted the process. You know, I was back 1036 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: up for I don't know what was six or seven years, 1037 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 1: but you know, in my head, I always you know 1038 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: it's going to get that opportunity. So I kind of 1039 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: just you know, grinded it out and I finally got 1040 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: my shot, and I just try to make the most 1041 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: of it. What did you learn being a backup quarterback? 1042 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: And you were a backup quarterback to Dara King, who's 1043 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: a great quarterback at Miami Philippe A. Franks was there, 1044 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: who I think is now at Arkansas. What did you 1045 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 1: learn backing these guys up? And obviously it's very humbling 1046 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: because you know you're not getting any attention or anything 1047 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 1: like that, but and you just kind of have to 1048 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: sit on the sidelines on game day and you put 1049 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,439 Speaker 1: in that work all week. But at the same time, 1050 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: it taught me a lot about hard work and you know, 1051 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: just staying consistent in my preparation because you know, you're 1052 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: a backup, so you're always one play away from going 1053 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: to the game, and you know, if that ever happens, 1054 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: you got to be ready to go and just as 1055 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: prepared as a starter. Who was your favorite team growing up? NFL? 1056 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up in Houston's I was everything 1057 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: Houston guys, so I was a huge Texans fan growing up. 1058 00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:02,760 Speaker 1: Did you meet J. J. Watter or Deshaun Watson yet? Uh? No? Um, Actually, 1059 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: I think somebody won like a raffle to have JJ 1060 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: Watt come to a pep rally in high school. So 1061 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: I actually did get the chance to meet J. J. 1062 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: Watty came to our school or like a pep rally. 1063 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about, but he was 1064 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: just gave us like a ten minute talk and left. 1065 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: But it was still pretty cool. Could be weird though. 1066 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: He could be hitting you next season in the NFL, 1067 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: one step at a time. That would be pretty cool. Though. 1068 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever have you done a Heisman pose with 1069 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: your buddies? No? No, no, no no no. I think 1070 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: you just lie to me. Kyle. It's okay. I don't 1071 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 1: blame you for lying, but I can tell that you 1072 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: probably joked around a little bit um. I mean probably 1073 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, growing up, you know, playing in the backyard, 1074 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: I would hit one. But you know, as of lately 1075 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of just focused on you know, we're 1076 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: really trying to get this national champions that's our team's 1077 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: paying focus. And you know, we're just trying to take 1078 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: a one game at a time right now. Look at 1079 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: you saying all the right things there. Absolutely, so this 1080 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: may come down to you against Alabama. Got a few 1081 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: games before that, but you're expecting to meet Alabama for 1082 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: the chance to play in the final four. Obviously, we're 1083 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: not blind to that possibility. You know, if that happens, 1084 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: you know they're a great team. It's gonna be a 1085 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: good challenge for us, and you know we'll be ready 1086 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: to go. Well congrats so far, it's been a pretty 1087 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: good run there. But he's not an overnight sensation. Took 1088 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: him a long time to get to this point. Good 1089 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: luck against Kentucky this weekend, Kyle. We appreciate your time. 1090 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate it. That's Kyle Trash, the Florida quarterback. 1091 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: Florida's now six and one and I think it's his 1092 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: heisman to lose. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 1093 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 1094 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 1095 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 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