WEBVTT - The Boy Next Door with Ryan Guzman 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.400 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio Podcast. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.360 Okay, can we just talk about the group message going 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:15.280 on right now? Which ones? Oh? Right, because we have one, 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.280 so our dearest Catherine, this just didn't I'm gonna read 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.800 like Bridgerton because alas I's a brigidon. Dear wind down listener. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.920 Dearest gentle reader, dearest. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:32.519 Podcast listeners, are Katherine Woodard cannot be here today. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.840 He regrets to inform you for absence. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:40.159 Because because what we can't say, but we love her 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.839 very much, we miss her. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:49.040 So she actually had the great Bridgerton name. Catherine Woodard. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.199 Oh, you almost did what she hates. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.320 I know, I almost said, don't tell her. If she listen, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:55.040 we'll find out. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:57.480 I always love leaving. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.880 I love leaving little trinkets to find out if you 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.480 if our people listen, pressed in a lot, and so 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:04.200 far he has. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:11.120 Never come up to me. It's like a little podcast cavender. Hut, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:14.600 I miss you. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.280 I just want to say, you almost said woodword, and 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.160 that's like her big thing that she in our defense. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.280 Wood Word is a very important avenue in Michigan, the 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.280 Woodward Dream Cruise. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.520 By the way, someone miss spells in our queendom Kristen 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:36.280 all the time. So and forward, let's move forward years 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:42.080 and she's in our queendom group and she miss spells 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:42.679 your name. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.360 Also has a name that could be very easily misspelled 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:46.440 and isn't. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.280 So I'm wondering why it doesn't matter to her like it. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:49.920 Matters to me. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.040 But that's okay. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.920 Well, the problem is is sometimes I then second guess, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.760 wait is it with an I or an e? Because 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.800 then it like freaks me out. I'm like, I know 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:00.920 how to spell your name? 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.360 Are you a Jana or Yana? I never can figure 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.160 it out either. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.160 I can't. We digress, but no, there's a group track 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.480 going on right now between Preston, oh my soon to 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.239 be hubs. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.120 This is not the one I wish we were going 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.000 to talk about. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.359 So oh, we're going to the other one too. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.000 Okay, good doctor Google. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.640 Okay, go ahead, doctor Google. So Preston had spoken about 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.040 obviously wearing a kilt to the wedding with us Weekly, 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.600 and so there's a conversation going on right now where 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:38.200 Preston says I found some great Camo kilts and then 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.119 Alan responds back with a photo but kind of a joke, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.600 and then he goes, hey, you know, send me both 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.560 your addresses and I'll connect you to the kilt company 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.480 we're using. They don't have camo, and Preston's like, oh, no, 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.400 I'm ordering Camo. But like Alan was legit thinking he 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.160 was just joking about the Camo. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.799 I just feel like Alan might regret to inform us 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.280 of our uninvited to the wedding status soon, because we 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.600 are a loose sinc. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.000 Ships over here at the breast House first of all. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.560 But Alan hasn't responded yet. He just he's like all 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:11.440 he said was FFS, which just means for sake, So 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.160 like he's like, no, I'm Presen's like, I'm trying to 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.160 get a Camo kill an army green jacket and a 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.919 white dress shirt tie and camera boots. And that's when 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:26.639 Alan said ffs. And then he's like Pressing goes Scotland 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:32.360 ain't ready for this redneck. But hell, Ellen like probably 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.160 thought he was joking. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.880 Did we already talk about how my husband outed where 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.560 you're getting married? 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:37.880 And ospeaklean that you didn't. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.440 Yeah, but he I mean he didn't. We knew, I know, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:42.320 But when. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.880 I got three calls and a FaceTime in a row 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.760 I thought maybe there was a car accident and said 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.360 it was like, does everyone know the Jana is get 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.280 married in Scotland? And I was like, please tell me 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.280 they don't know now because you said it and not her. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.960 Okay, so he does want a camo kill. I don't 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:56.880 know how I feel about that. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.280 Amazon doesn't have a lot to offer that looks credible 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.360 if I'm honest. So that's why I reached out to 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.880 our native Scotland homeboy and was like, hey, mate, wondering 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.760 if you could help me with something so that he 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.240 doesn't look like a trash bag and into your wedding. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.600 Listen. I think it's I think it's so fun. I 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.720 think you should wear a camo killed. It would only 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.080 be natural. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.160 Something like that. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:19.880 You know Nick wants to wear one too, and so 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.360 I'm like, well if you match, then you two are 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.760 going to like the Ushers. This is just getting weird, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.880 don't I don't know what you want me to do, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:28.880 but I'm trying to manage it. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.800 On my side is that they can do You want 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.159 to talk about the other group chat. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.000 Going on, the one where everyone diagnoses them is also 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:35.560 with an ailment. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.279 Yeah, that's a fun one. We've got a Dear Amy group, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.600 which is Amy's our therapist. And so something's you know, 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.880 kind of going on with Catherine, Catherine right now, and 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.640 she was gonna she was diagnosing, and I was like, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.640 don't come to this club. This is a bad club. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.480 My club is like we diagnose with the worst things possible, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.400 and Kristen's club is we don't. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.400 And so I married you. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.520 I tell you this all the time. Preston is the 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.559 male Verson. I don't know if maybe it is actually 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.120 an artist thing, because it might be there is. Yeah, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.320 there's another artist. I won't say his name, but I 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.840 also know he's diagnizing himself as we speak. I can 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.039 almost promise you. So I'm always like Cat, I was like, 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.719 you can't. I need you on my team because I 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.280 need like the we're speaking well thoughts and like everything 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.840 is okay. We are well loved, loved and protected. And 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.600 last night was a spiral. But then I did out 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.360 myself to you guys and say, so here's the thing, 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.160 like if you lose a leg, I will save your 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.320 life with like a hair tie, a hope in Jesus, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.479 and I will handle it. I will call nine one one, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.960 I will we will I'll save your life, and I 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.279 will not even after. There won't be some like crash 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.120 afterwards where I like have an adrenaline rehab or anything. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.760 It'll just be like, Okay, I'm glad we got that 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:46.320 figured out. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.160 Now. If there is a weather warning. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.240 If there is ever a weather warning that is three 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.320 hours away, I will get a text message from christ 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.040 And saying, buckle down, get your helmets. Everybody's go to safety. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.640 Do not drive. We cannot go out. And I'm like, Christen, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.880 it's three hours away. We're okay, sweetheart, is gonna have 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.440 ease Like It's like it's like buckle down, Nashville, We're 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.320 gonna be We're all going down. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.120 I like have a helmet, boots, a water bottled tape 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:18.839 to everyone's leg just in case, the Grandma's Bible and 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.200 their helmets, and and love is always like is everything okay. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.440 I'm like, everything is fine. Everything is fine. She's like 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:24.720 the moiro moving so swiftly. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.400 I said, you heard the girl on the plane on 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.400 the Bride's Maid movie. She's like, we're going down. It's 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.240 not it's not good. Everything's gonna be bad. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.760 We're all gonna die. We balance each other out. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.320 Cramer's Oh we do. It's good. It's good, it's good. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:37.920 It's good to see you. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.640 I miss you too. I know I'm in la right 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.159 now for doing something fun. Uh, having the week? 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.720 Anything you can share with us, I can't. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:51.440 Yet but soon, but it's it's good. The kids are 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.320 at the beach with their dad this week and so 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.120 which was it's so hard. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:57.440 Uh. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.239 I did post about it, which I always I struggle 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.839 with what to sometimes post on Instagram because I hate 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:08.479 being that person where it's like I don't genuinely like 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:13.040 how do I say this. I don't want to post 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.760 like crying photos or because sometimes it feels a little 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.640 much for At the same time, I'm like, I know 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.559 I'm not the only mom that feels this when I 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.600 drop the kids off, because it's not a natural feeling 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.960 to drop your kids off somewhere, you know, Like as 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.120 happy as I am in my life right now, it's 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.559 just not a natural feeling, Like you don't have kids 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.840 to then be in separate houses, you know. And I 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:39.360 don't know what the case is with this, but Mike 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:45.280 is very helpful with dropping the kids off picking them up, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.800 and you know, I'm like, hey, if Roman has to 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.800 nap and Alan's out of town, Like, would you mind 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.280 just dropping the kids off instead of me having to 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.559 pick up? So I actually I don't do the drop 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.240 off and pick up at his house a lot. I 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:00.000 don't know if that's a piece of means, like maybe 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.760 he's doing that because he knows it's hard for me, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.440 Like maybe that's a little like I'm kind of giving 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.760 him a little bit of that, Like what do I say, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.200 like credit for maybe he knows it's hard for me, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.440 or he's just being nice or whatever, like, but it 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.720 is for some reason. And again it might just be 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.400 because I don't do it a lot, because again he 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:25.360 is very helpful in doing that more often, because you 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.640 most of time, it's like we have to pick up 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.040 from school, it's not like the house. So when I 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.760 dropped them off, it was like I hadn't felt that 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.600 in so long. That feeling it's the worst. It's like 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.480 literally the worst, and I just I couldn't even I 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.240 just bald in my car because I'm like, this just 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.480 isn't a natural thing. And what was sad about it too, 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.280 is I'm like they're now going off to have all 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.880 these this like amazing core memory and I don't get 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.680 to be a part of a piece of pieces of 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.800 their childhood, and like that just seems so unfair and 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.000 sad to me. But also on the flip side of it, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.160 I go, well, no, they you know, they deserve and 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.160 they should have this amazing time with their dad too. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.600 It's just it still stings that I'm like, well, that's 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.400 wasn't what it was. I didn't have kids to then 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.080 share childhood memories it was supposed to be had together. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:17.040 Does that make sense? 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.400 Makes a lot of sense. I actually don't know how 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.440 you do it. I've always admired I actually I don't 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.360 say many good things about Mike, but I admire how 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.400 Mike is handling things too. I feel like you guys 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.360 really work together well on that, Like he really hears 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:30.839 you when you're like this is really hard for. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:31.800 Me or whatever. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:32.680 Yeah. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.960 I wonder if there is a space you can put 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.800 it in your brain that maybe makes it feel And 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.439 I'm just again, I don't know this walk at all. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:46.160 But recently, therapist Amy has had me rename some family 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.960 members because she says the title that comes with them 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.800 comes with an expectation. Whether I'm kind of admitting that 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.120 or not. And so I wonder if there's a way 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:56.800 that it could be, like, say, if they were going 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.400 to go do those things with grandparents, you maybe feel different. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.200 Mmm mm hmmm. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.600 So I wonder if we could do something in your 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.079 brain that will make it feel maybe just a little 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.040 more rounded edge for you, so doesn't maybe hurt as much. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.440 I don't know, brainstorming. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.040 Yeah, And here's the deal. I mean, I'm sure it's 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.840 not easy for you know, my ex to you know, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.160 see the lake, us on the lake, like he misses 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.960 seventy percent of the childhood like that, I'm sure is 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.559 a very tough, very hard for him. So the kids, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.040 you know, do deserve to have and you know, should 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.920 should go have those amazing fun memories with their dad too. 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.880 It's just still goes back to the point where it's 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.520 it's not the natural thing. And I wish, you know, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:47.360 it was being able to have not missing out on 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.480 those childhood memory. So I think it's just it's hard. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.560 But I hear your point because it's like, you know, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.480 he's the kids are with their nana and Papa, and 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.560 so it's like, you know, they're having amazing time with 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.680 them too, and their cousins and so that's that is 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.200 good for them, and you know I'm here working, so 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.640 it's it's just it just got me thinking. It just 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.200 it made me sad for a minute. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.360 Well, I think that's fair. Also, I do love that 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:11.920 you share it. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.800 I know there's got to be a big hesitation for 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.479 you to share things like that because there's a million opinions. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.400 But I think that stuff matters because I think sometimes 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.480 when things like you did get to find a love story, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.160 you do have like sweet and handsome, well mannered Scottsman Allan, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.920 you have this handsome meatball baby in Roman. So I 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.160 think that, well, that is all amazing. It is also hard. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.160 So I'm glad that you share that because I think 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.720 it gives hope and also reality, and that's what people 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.760 are following you for anyways. Yeah, for sure's what I 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.000 follow you for, Kramer. Hope and reality. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.079 Yeah, I mean I think you can have both. I 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.040 mean I have the absolute love of my life, like 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.120 the sweetest family than you know, the new the new 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.360 Micheline baby like it's like and. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.600 I will eat his space. It's aggressive and. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.920 It's you know, it's it's also hard saying goodbye to 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.439 the babies and missing out on some amazing memories with them. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.640 And someone asked me to would we ever do family 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.600 vacations together? And I thought about it for a second. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.400 I'm like, as fun as it would be to you know, 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.040 crash their beach trip, I still, like you said, I 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.800 think it's really important for them to have that one 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.120 on one with you know, their their grandma and grandpa. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.080 And when we leave the wedding, you know, my uh, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.920 the bags are going to go and spend some time 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:38.440 with my dad and his wife and so their grandma 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.480 and grandpa. So I think, you know, because it's important 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.040 for them to have moments with each part of the crew, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:44.520 you know. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.960 And I also think with the age gap, like we're 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.439 experiencing things in our house with the gap, like it's incredible. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.360 The age gap is incredible, But it also feels like 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.200 I want to be doing more with them. And so 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.000 I almost love that Julie and Jays get to go 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.400 do that, like just have like straight on big kid time. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:04.200 With their dad. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.679 Yeah, because it is no matter what, our attention is divided, right, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.040 so we shan't help it. I mean, these people are 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.160 just full contact, full contact age right now. For sure, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.400 He's shrunken ones. I mean, this chick is literally tearing 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.160 up a cabinet in record speed, like she's breaking It's 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:21.800 Guinness Book. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:22.240 Over here. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.120 I'm like knee deep in rubber made lids. Before I 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.600 even open my eyes in the morning, I'm like, can 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.000 we please just get out of the cabinet. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:34.080 But we're teaching, right, we're teaching teaching. Well, we are 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:38.640 about to have Ryan Gutzman on. He is an actor. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.880 He's known for his lead roles as Sean and Step 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.160 of Revolution the film series, and he's also the Boy 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.840 next Door as Eddie and the ABC procedural drama nine 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.560 one one. So let's take a break, he's got a 0:13:51.559 --> 0:14:07.400 new movie out, and then let's get him on. Oh hello, Okay, 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:12.000 how are you how I'm good. I'm Jana. This is Kristen. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.040 Hi Jana, Hi, Kristin my friend. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:19.160 Okay, so you are You were born and raised in California? Right? 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:25.200 No, so born in Abilene, Texas. Oh, Sacramento, California. Oh yeah, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.360 you're around two and a half three years old. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.480 Okay, that's a culture shock. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.400 I mean I don't really even remember Aveleen, because yeah, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:35.760 it was I was born in the Air Force base 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.200 so it was kind of very secluded and I don't 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.360 even know if the Airporce base is still active. But yeah, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.520 when I came out to Sacramento, a lot of my 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.000 family had moved already from Mexico to Sacramento, and then 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.840 my mom's side was already there, So it was normally, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.960 I guess, I know, more sacked than anything. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.840 When did you want to start acting? 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.440 When six months after coming out to LA and seeing 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:04.480 who I was getting the jobs, I started seeing the 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.320 individuals that I was looking around, I'm like, if you 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:09.720 can do it, I can do it. There's no way. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.560 So that kind of spurred my competition, I guess because 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.960 I didn't really know anything about acting coming from Sacramento, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.520 and that wasn't a thing. It was the automotive industry, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.040 worked for the state. Maybe become a fighter or some 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:29.800 kind of athlete and lo and behold. I think commercials 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.520 is what really kind of spurred the whole movement towards 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.320 my acting. I found out just having some kind of 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.640 personality on camera was fun, and I didn't. I hated modeling, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.080 so I wanted anything I could do to get out 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:42.640 of modeling. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.760 What did you hate about it? Just the beautiful models 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.840 that were next to you. It was just so tragic, right, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.280 just like standing there was. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.480 Like I hate this shirtless, hot chick life. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.880 This is the exhausting What else could I do? I 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.120 need to dream bigger. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.080 Super exhausting, and it was just the whole realm and 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.840 it's very no I get it. Yeah, so horrible. And 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.520 then coming out to LA I lived in a one 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.600 bedroom with five guys and I was getting charged twelve 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.120 hundred dollars for rent. So I quickly went into debt 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:16.880 and I didn't know how I was going to get out. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:23.560 So then got for commercials. But yeah, the the companies, 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.720 the agencies, they know how to run the scam and 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.640 they just keep the whole ticker on. So just I 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.800 kept on going further and further in debt. The photographers 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.160 that I was bumping into, they kept on getting seeder 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:43.360 each time, and I just didn't feel comfortable anymore. So 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.600 then when I found commercials, and then I found my agents, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.720 or not my agent, my manager. He started putting me 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.320 out right away. And then two three months after I 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.200 started going out with him, I booked my first lead 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.160 role in I just never looked back. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.840 It's got to be frustrating when you do have personality 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.200 like so like my husband's and country music. And I 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.600 absolutely and this is like hashtag bless, but I hate 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.920 red carpets because I feel better if I could talk 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.560 to someone, but like to stand there and be like 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.919 a bookend is like not my jam. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.360 So it probably did. It feel like a piece of. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.280 You got to like kind of honor yourself come alive 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.080 when you started doing these like acting rules were like 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.080 a piece of your personality can then live in a character. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.520 Yeah. Absolutely. I mean it's weird to say this out loud, 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.480 but as I grew up, when I was younger, I 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:31.880 was kind of always told I was a good looking 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.439 kid and I had the looks. But I feel like 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:41.000 that's a very easy way to pigeonhole someone. So the 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.879 whole time I was always kind of fighting that thing, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.280 and I actually hated myself for that reason. I was 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.520 just like, ah, I want to be something else. So 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.760 I tried so hard to do all these other endeavors, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.359 and I was silent about a lot of them. I e, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.320 my mma didn't know about my modeling. My modeling didn't 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:04.400 know about my mma. So I felt myself being able 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.639 to tap into some kind of humanity, some kind of 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:11.080 like empathy and sympathy towards our own human condition by 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.800 going the actor route. And I would say more so 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.639 than not, the past twelve years of acting has been 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.520 more therapy. It's been more honesty and humility and understanding 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:27.680 of other people and cultures. So it was a good 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.479 segue to just being all around good human and that's 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.080 where I wanted to go anyways. And I feel like 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.720 with modeling, it was just like, look like this act 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.760 like this, but you really aren't that. It was like 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.480 selling something completely different. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.000 Yeah, no, I get that. Yeah, what do you do 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:50.000 with the rejection of when you know the roles that 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:54.240 you really really wanted? Like, how do you deal with 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.520 that piece of it? 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.520 There's been times where I obsessed where I'll go over 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.320 the audition tape and be like, no, man, I know 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:06.919 I killed that one. Why didn't I get that one? 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:08.440 And I find out Shan had the buff got in 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:16.200 and I'm like that makes sense, all right, makes sense. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.600 But yeah, it is frustrating a lot of the times 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.240 because you put your heart in your soul, as you 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.160 guys know, you put your heart in your soul into 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.760 these these auditions. And this opportunity that's supposed to change 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.680 your life or give more opportunity towards the career path. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:36.480 And when you don't get that that role, I think 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.439 the best thing any actor can do is just let 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.280 it roll off your shoulder, move on to the next, 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.960 keep yourself busy. I mean, it didn't work out with 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.160 that one, but that was actually an opportunity to try 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.400 something new. And then now that you've tried it, now 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.000 you can kind of build on that and maybe it 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:55.040 forms into something for another role. And I've found success 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.840