Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, can we just talk about the group message going
Speaker 2: on right now? Which ones? Oh? Right, because we have one,
Speaker 2: so our dearest Catherine, this just didn't I'm gonna read
Speaker 2: like Bridgerton because alas I's a brigidon. Dear wind down listener.
Speaker 3: Dearest gentle reader, dearest.
Speaker 2: Podcast listeners, are Katherine Woodard cannot be here today.
Speaker 3: He regrets to inform you for absence.
Speaker 2: Because because what we can't say, but we love her
Speaker 2: very much, we miss her.
Speaker 3: So she actually had the great Bridgerton name. Catherine Woodard.
Speaker 2: Oh, you almost did what she hates.
Speaker 4: I know, I almost said, don't tell her. If she listen,
Speaker 4: we'll find out.
Speaker 3: I always love leaving.
Speaker 4: I love leaving little trinkets to find out if you
Speaker 4: if our people listen, pressed in a lot, and so
Speaker 4: far he has.
Speaker 3: Never come up to me. It's like a little podcast cavender. Hut,
Speaker 3: I miss you.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, you almost said woodword, and
Speaker 2: that's like her big thing that she in our defense.
Speaker 4: Wood Word is a very important avenue in Michigan, the
Speaker 4: Woodward Dream Cruise.
Speaker 2: By the way, someone miss spells in our queendom Kristen
Speaker 2: all the time. So and forward, let's move forward years
Speaker 2: and she's in our queendom group and she miss spells
Speaker 2: your name.
Speaker 4: Also has a name that could be very easily misspelled
Speaker 4: and isn't.
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering why it doesn't matter to her like it.
Speaker 2: Matters to me.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is is sometimes I then second guess,
Speaker 2: wait is it with an I or an e? Because
Speaker 2: then it like freaks me out. I'm like, I know
Speaker 2: how to spell your name?
Speaker 4: Are you a Jana or Yana? I never can figure
Speaker 4: it out either.
Speaker 2: I can't. We digress, but no, there's a group track
Speaker 2: going on right now between Preston, oh my soon to
Speaker 2: be hubs.
Speaker 3: This is not the one I wish we were going
Speaker 3: to talk about.
Speaker 2: So oh, we're going to the other one too.
Speaker 3: Okay, good doctor Google.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, doctor Google. So Preston had spoken about
Speaker 2: obviously wearing a kilt to the wedding with us Weekly,
Speaker 2: and so there's a conversation going on right now where
Speaker 2: Preston says I found some great Camo kilts and then
Speaker 2: Alan responds back with a photo but kind of a joke,
Speaker 2: and then he goes, hey, you know, send me both
Speaker 2: your addresses and I'll connect you to the kilt company
Speaker 2: we're using. They don't have camo, and Preston's like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I'm ordering Camo. But like Alan was legit thinking he
Speaker 2: was just joking about the Camo.
Speaker 4: I just feel like Alan might regret to inform us
Speaker 4: of our uninvited to the wedding status soon, because we
Speaker 4: are a loose sinc.
Speaker 3: Ships over here at the breast House first of all.
Speaker 2: But Alan hasn't responded yet. He just he's like all
Speaker 2: he said was FFS, which just means for sake, So
Speaker 2: like he's like, no, I'm Presen's like, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get a Camo kill an army green jacket and a
Speaker 2: white dress shirt tie and camera boots. And that's when
Speaker 2: Alan said ffs. And then he's like Pressing goes Scotland
Speaker 2: ain't ready for this redneck. But hell, Ellen like probably
Speaker 2: thought he was joking.
Speaker 4: Did we already talk about how my husband outed where
Speaker 4: you're getting married?
Speaker 3: And ospeaklean that you didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he I mean he didn't. We knew, I know,
Speaker 2: But when.
Speaker 4: I got three calls and a FaceTime in a row
Speaker 4: I thought maybe there was a car accident and said
Speaker 4: it was like, does everyone know the Jana is get
Speaker 4: married in Scotland? And I was like, please tell me
Speaker 4: they don't know now because you said it and not her.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he does want a camo kill. I don't
Speaker 3: know how I feel about that.
Speaker 4: Amazon doesn't have a lot to offer that looks credible
Speaker 4: if I'm honest. So that's why I reached out to
Speaker 4: our native Scotland homeboy and was like, hey, mate, wondering
Speaker 4: if you could help me with something so that he
Speaker 4: doesn't look like a trash bag and into your wedding.
Speaker 2: Listen. I think it's I think it's so fun. I
Speaker 2: think you should wear a camo killed. It would only
Speaker 2: be natural.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 4: You know Nick wants to wear one too, and so
Speaker 4: I'm like, well if you match, then you two are
Speaker 4: going to like the Ushers. This is just getting weird,
Speaker 4: don't I don't know what you want me to do,
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to manage it.
Speaker 2: On my side is that they can do You want
Speaker 2: to talk about the other group chat.
Speaker 4: Going on, the one where everyone diagnoses them is also
Speaker 4: with an ailment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fun one. We've got a Dear Amy group,
Speaker 2: which is Amy's our therapist. And so something's you know,
Speaker 2: kind of going on with Catherine, Catherine right now, and
Speaker 2: she was gonna she was diagnosing, and I was like,
Speaker 2: don't come to this club. This is a bad club.
Speaker 2: My club is like we diagnose with the worst things possible,
Speaker 2: and Kristen's club is we don't.
Speaker 3: And so I married you.
Speaker 4: I tell you this all the time. Preston is the
Speaker 4: male Verson. I don't know if maybe it is actually
Speaker 4: an artist thing, because it might be there is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's another artist. I won't say his name, but I
Speaker 4: also know he's diagnizing himself as we speak. I can
Speaker 4: almost promise you. So I'm always like Cat, I was like,
Speaker 4: you can't. I need you on my team because I
Speaker 4: need like the we're speaking well thoughts and like everything
Speaker 4: is okay. We are well loved, loved and protected. And
Speaker 4: last night was a spiral. But then I did out
Speaker 4: myself to you guys and say, so here's the thing,
Speaker 4: like if you lose a leg, I will save your
Speaker 4: life with like a hair tie, a hope in Jesus,
Speaker 4: and I will handle it. I will call nine one one,
Speaker 4: I will we will I'll save your life, and I
Speaker 4: will not even after. There won't be some like crash
Speaker 4: afterwards where I like have an adrenaline rehab or anything.
Speaker 4: It'll just be like, Okay, I'm glad we got that
Speaker 4: figured out.
Speaker 3: Now. If there is a weather warning.
Speaker 2: If there is ever a weather warning that is three
Speaker 2: hours away, I will get a text message from christ
Speaker 2: And saying, buckle down, get your helmets. Everybody's go to safety.
Speaker 2: Do not drive. We cannot go out. And I'm like, Christen,
Speaker 2: it's three hours away. We're okay, sweetheart, is gonna have
Speaker 2: ease Like It's like it's like buckle down, Nashville, We're
Speaker 2: gonna be We're all going down.
Speaker 4: I like have a helmet, boots, a water bottled tape
Speaker 4: to everyone's leg just in case, the Grandma's Bible and
Speaker 4: their helmets, and and love is always like is everything okay.
Speaker 4: I'm like, everything is fine. Everything is fine. She's like
Speaker 4: the moiro moving so swiftly.
Speaker 2: I said, you heard the girl on the plane on
Speaker 2: the Bride's Maid movie. She's like, we're going down. It's
Speaker 2: not it's not good. Everything's gonna be bad.
Speaker 3: We're all gonna die. We balance each other out.
Speaker 2: Cramer's Oh we do. It's good. It's good, it's good.
Speaker 3: It's good to see you.
Speaker 2: I miss you too. I know I'm in la right
Speaker 2: now for doing something fun. Uh, having the week?
Speaker 4: Anything you can share with us, I can't.
Speaker 2: Yet but soon, but it's it's good. The kids are
Speaker 2: at the beach with their dad this week and so
Speaker 2: which was it's so hard.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I did post about it, which I always I struggle
Speaker 2: with what to sometimes post on Instagram because I hate
Speaker 2: being that person where it's like I don't genuinely like
Speaker 2: how do I say this. I don't want to post
Speaker 2: like crying photos or because sometimes it feels a little
Speaker 2: much for At the same time, I'm like, I know
Speaker 2: I'm not the only mom that feels this when I
Speaker 2: drop the kids off, because it's not a natural feeling
Speaker 2: to drop your kids off somewhere, you know, Like as
Speaker 2: happy as I am in my life right now, it's
Speaker 2: just not a natural feeling, Like you don't have kids
Speaker 2: to then be in separate houses, you know. And I
Speaker 2: don't know what the case is with this, but Mike
Speaker 2: is very helpful with dropping the kids off picking them up,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm like, hey, if Roman has to
Speaker 2: nap and Alan's out of town, Like, would you mind
Speaker 2: just dropping the kids off instead of me having to
Speaker 2: pick up? So I actually I don't do the drop
Speaker 2: off and pick up at his house a lot. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a piece of means, like maybe
Speaker 2: he's doing that because he knows it's hard for me,
Speaker 2: Like maybe that's a little like I'm kind of giving
Speaker 2: him a little bit of that, Like what do I say,
Speaker 2: like credit for maybe he knows it's hard for me,
Speaker 2: or he's just being nice or whatever, like, but it
Speaker 2: is for some reason. And again it might just be
Speaker 2: because I don't do it a lot, because again he
Speaker 2: is very helpful in doing that more often, because you
Speaker 2: most of time, it's like we have to pick up
Speaker 2: from school, it's not like the house. So when I
Speaker 2: dropped them off, it was like I hadn't felt that
Speaker 2: in so long. That feeling it's the worst. It's like
Speaker 2: literally the worst, and I just I couldn't even I
Speaker 2: just bald in my car because I'm like, this just
Speaker 2: isn't a natural thing. And what was sad about it too,
Speaker 2: is I'm like they're now going off to have all
Speaker 2: these this like amazing core memory and I don't get
Speaker 2: to be a part of a piece of pieces of
Speaker 2: their childhood, and like that just seems so unfair and
Speaker 2: sad to me. But also on the flip side of it,
Speaker 2: I go, well, no, they you know, they deserve and
Speaker 2: they should have this amazing time with their dad too.
Speaker 2: It's just it still stings that I'm like, well, that's
Speaker 2: wasn't what it was. I didn't have kids to then
Speaker 2: share childhood memories it was supposed to be had together.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Makes a lot of sense. I actually don't know how
Speaker 4: you do it. I've always admired I actually I don't
Speaker 4: say many good things about Mike, but I admire how
Speaker 4: Mike is handling things too. I feel like you guys
Speaker 4: really work together well on that, Like he really hears
Speaker 4: you when you're like this is really hard for.
Speaker 3: Me or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wonder if there is a space you can put
Speaker 4: it in your brain that maybe makes it feel And
Speaker 4: I'm just again, I don't know this walk at all.
Speaker 4: But recently, therapist Amy has had me rename some family
Speaker 4: members because she says the title that comes with them
Speaker 4: comes with an expectation. Whether I'm kind of admitting that
Speaker 4: or not. And so I wonder if there's a way
Speaker 4: that it could be, like, say, if they were going
Speaker 4: to go do those things with grandparents, you maybe feel different.
Speaker 2: Mmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: So I wonder if we could do something in your
Speaker 4: brain that will make it feel maybe just a little
Speaker 4: more rounded edge for you, so doesn't maybe hurt as much.
Speaker 3: I don't know, brainstorming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And here's the deal. I mean, I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: not easy for you know, my ex to you know,
Speaker 2: see the lake, us on the lake, like he misses
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the childhood like that, I'm sure is
Speaker 2: a very tough, very hard for him. So the kids,
Speaker 2: you know, do deserve to have and you know, should
Speaker 2: should go have those amazing fun memories with their dad too.
Speaker 2: It's just still goes back to the point where it's
Speaker 2: it's not the natural thing. And I wish, you know,
Speaker 2: it was being able to have not missing out on
Speaker 2: those childhood memory. So I think it's just it's hard.
Speaker 2: But I hear your point because it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's the kids are with their nana and Papa, and
Speaker 2: so it's like, you know, they're having amazing time with
Speaker 2: them too, and their cousins and so that's that is
Speaker 2: good for them, and you know I'm here working, so
Speaker 2: it's it's just it just got me thinking. It just
Speaker 2: it made me sad for a minute.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's fair. Also, I do love that
Speaker 3: you share it.
Speaker 4: I know there's got to be a big hesitation for
Speaker 4: you to share things like that because there's a million opinions.
Speaker 4: But I think that stuff matters because I think sometimes
Speaker 4: when things like you did get to find a love story,
Speaker 4: you do have like sweet and handsome, well mannered Scottsman Allan,
Speaker 4: you have this handsome meatball baby in Roman. So I
Speaker 4: think that, well, that is all amazing. It is also hard.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad that you share that because I think
Speaker 4: it gives hope and also reality, and that's what people
Speaker 4: are following you for anyways. Yeah, for sure's what I
Speaker 4: follow you for, Kramer. Hope and reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think you can have both. I
Speaker 2: mean I have the absolute love of my life, like
Speaker 2: the sweetest family than you know, the new the new
Speaker 2: Micheline baby like it's like and.
Speaker 4: I will eat his space. It's aggressive and.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's it's also hard saying goodbye to
Speaker 2: the babies and missing out on some amazing memories with them.
Speaker 2: And someone asked me to would we ever do family
Speaker 2: vacations together? And I thought about it for a second.
Speaker 2: I'm like, as fun as it would be to you know,
Speaker 2: crash their beach trip, I still, like you said, I
Speaker 2: think it's really important for them to have that one
Speaker 2: on one with you know, their their grandma and grandpa.
Speaker 2: And when we leave the wedding, you know, my uh,
Speaker 2: the bags are going to go and spend some time
Speaker 2: with my dad and his wife and so their grandma
Speaker 2: and grandpa. So I think, you know, because it's important
Speaker 2: for them to have moments with each part of the crew,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: And I also think with the age gap, like we're
Speaker 4: experiencing things in our house with the gap, like it's incredible.
Speaker 4: The age gap is incredible, But it also feels like
Speaker 4: I want to be doing more with them. And so
Speaker 4: I almost love that Julie and Jays get to go
Speaker 4: do that, like just have like straight on big kid time.
Speaker 3: With their dad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it is no matter what, our attention is divided, right,
Speaker 4: so we shan't help it. I mean, these people are
Speaker 4: just full contact, full contact age right now. For sure,
Speaker 4: He's shrunken ones. I mean, this chick is literally tearing
Speaker 4: up a cabinet in record speed, like she's breaking It's
Speaker 4: Guinness Book.
Speaker 3: Over here.
Speaker 4: I'm like knee deep in rubber made lids. Before I
Speaker 4: even open my eyes in the morning, I'm like, can
Speaker 4: we please just get out of the cabinet.
Speaker 2: But we're teaching, right, we're teaching teaching. Well, we are
Speaker 2: about to have Ryan Gutzman on. He is an actor.
Speaker 2: He's known for his lead roles as Sean and Step
Speaker 2: of Revolution the film series, and he's also the Boy
Speaker 2: next Door as Eddie and the ABC procedural drama nine
Speaker 2: one one. So let's take a break, he's got a
Speaker 2: new movie out, and then let's get him on. Oh hello, Okay,
Speaker 2: how are you how I'm good. I'm Jana. This is Kristen.
Speaker 1: Hi Jana, Hi, Kristin my friend.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you are You were born and raised in California? Right?
Speaker 1: No, so born in Abilene, Texas. Oh, Sacramento, California. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're around two and a half three years old.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a culture shock.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really even remember Aveleen, because yeah,
Speaker 1: it was I was born in the Air Force base
Speaker 1: so it was kind of very secluded and I don't
Speaker 1: even know if the Airporce base is still active. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when I came out to Sacramento, a lot of my
Speaker 1: family had moved already from Mexico to Sacramento, and then
Speaker 1: my mom's side was already there, So it was normally,
Speaker 1: I guess, I know, more sacked than anything.
Speaker 2: When did you want to start acting?
Speaker 1: When six months after coming out to LA and seeing
Speaker 1: who I was getting the jobs, I started seeing the
Speaker 1: individuals that I was looking around, I'm like, if you
Speaker 1: can do it, I can do it. There's no way.
Speaker 1: So that kind of spurred my competition, I guess because
Speaker 1: I didn't really know anything about acting coming from Sacramento,
Speaker 1: and that wasn't a thing. It was the automotive industry,
Speaker 1: worked for the state. Maybe become a fighter or some
Speaker 1: kind of athlete and lo and behold. I think commercials
Speaker 1: is what really kind of spurred the whole movement towards
Speaker 1: my acting. I found out just having some kind of
Speaker 1: personality on camera was fun, and I didn't. I hated modeling,
Speaker 1: so I wanted anything I could do to get out
Speaker 1: of modeling.
Speaker 2: What did you hate about it? Just the beautiful models
Speaker 2: that were next to you. It was just so tragic, right,
Speaker 2: just like standing there was.
Speaker 3: Like I hate this shirtless, hot chick life.
Speaker 4: This is the exhausting What else could I do? I
Speaker 4: need to dream bigger.
Speaker 1: Super exhausting, and it was just the whole realm and
Speaker 1: it's very no I get it. Yeah, so horrible. And
Speaker 1: then coming out to LA I lived in a one
Speaker 1: bedroom with five guys and I was getting charged twelve
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for rent. So I quickly went into debt
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how I was going to get out.
Speaker 1: So then got for commercials. But yeah, the the companies,
Speaker 1: the agencies, they know how to run the scam and
Speaker 1: they just keep the whole ticker on. So just I
Speaker 1: kept on going further and further in debt. The photographers
Speaker 1: that I was bumping into, they kept on getting seeder
Speaker 1: each time, and I just didn't feel comfortable anymore. So
Speaker 1: then when I found commercials, and then I found my agents,
Speaker 1: or not my agent, my manager. He started putting me
Speaker 1: out right away. And then two three months after I
Speaker 1: started going out with him, I booked my first lead
Speaker 1: role in I just never looked back.
Speaker 4: It's got to be frustrating when you do have personality
Speaker 4: like so like my husband's and country music. And I
Speaker 4: absolutely and this is like hashtag bless, but I hate
Speaker 4: red carpets because I feel better if I could talk
Speaker 4: to someone, but like to stand there and be like
Speaker 4: a bookend is like not my jam.
Speaker 3: So it probably did. It feel like a piece of.
Speaker 4: You got to like kind of honor yourself come alive
Speaker 4: when you started doing these like acting rules were like
Speaker 4: a piece of your personality can then live in a character.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean it's weird to say this out loud,
Speaker 1: but as I grew up, when I was younger, I
Speaker 1: was kind of always told I was a good looking
Speaker 1: kid and I had the looks. But I feel like
Speaker 1: that's a very easy way to pigeonhole someone. So the
Speaker 1: whole time I was always kind of fighting that thing,
Speaker 1: and I actually hated myself for that reason. I was
Speaker 1: just like, ah, I want to be something else. So
Speaker 1: I tried so hard to do all these other endeavors,
Speaker 1: and I was silent about a lot of them. I e,
Speaker 1: my mma didn't know about my modeling. My modeling didn't
Speaker 1: know about my mma. So I felt myself being able
Speaker 1: to tap into some kind of humanity, some kind of
Speaker 1: like empathy and sympathy towards our own human condition by
Speaker 1: going the actor route. And I would say more so
Speaker 1: than not, the past twelve years of acting has been
Speaker 1: more therapy. It's been more honesty and humility and understanding
Speaker 1: of other people and cultures. So it was a good
Speaker 1: segue to just being all around good human and that's
Speaker 1: where I wanted to go anyways. And I feel like
Speaker 1: with modeling, it was just like, look like this act
Speaker 1: like this, but you really aren't that. It was like
Speaker 1: selling something completely different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get that. Yeah, what do you do
Speaker 2: with the rejection of when you know the roles that
Speaker 2: you really really wanted? Like, how do you deal with
Speaker 2: that piece of it?
Speaker 1: There's been times where I obsessed where I'll go over
Speaker 1: the audition tape and be like, no, man, I know
Speaker 1: I killed that one. Why didn't I get that one?
Speaker 1: And I find out Shan had the buff got in
Speaker 1: and I'm like that makes sense, all right, makes sense.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is frustrating a lot of the times
Speaker 1: because you put your heart in your soul, as you
Speaker 1: guys know, you put your heart in your soul into
Speaker 1: these these auditions. And this opportunity that's supposed to change
Speaker 1: your life or give more opportunity towards the career path.
Speaker 1: And when you don't get that that role, I think
Speaker 1: the best thing any actor can do is just let
Speaker 1: it roll off your shoulder, move on to the next,
Speaker 1: keep yourself busy. I mean, it didn't work out with
Speaker 1: that one, but that was actually an opportunity to try
Speaker 1: something new. And then now that you've tried it, now
Speaker 1: you can kind of build on that and maybe it
Speaker 1: forms into something for another role. And I've found success
Speaker 1: in that. So I've learned through auditioning and through I
Speaker 1: used to call them my first eight years nine years
Speaker 1: of work just on camera auditions. I mean those are
Speaker 1: movies and TV shows that I've done that I was
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out. I had no clue
Speaker 1: what an actor was and what it entailed, and that's
Speaker 1: my best shot at doing my representation of what that was.
Speaker 1: And took all of those failures, which I consider them
Speaker 1: failures because it wasn't up to the par that I
Speaker 1: wanted it to be. Not to say that the movie
Speaker 1: was a failure at all, or the character didn't resonate
Speaker 1: with other individuals out there. But for me, I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to put everything I possibly could because I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to tap into. And now with these auditions
Speaker 1: that I get and if I get turned down, just
Speaker 1: kind of like all right, well, well what's next? Keep
Speaker 1: on try.
Speaker 2: For me, I personally think I'm always my worst enemy
Speaker 2: with every audition I ever get, because I immediately go
Speaker 2: up and I can't do that. But it's because I've
Speaker 2: been told that. I'm like, I'm a certain role and
Speaker 2: that's the only role I can play. I can play
Speaker 2: the girl next door, the you know whatever, and then
Speaker 2: anything like that, anything that's you know even. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's so many other examples where I can be like nah,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, already I walked into the audition
Speaker 2: already not getting it because my mindset was I can't
Speaker 2: do it. They're not going to see me as that
Speaker 2: person or they're not going to like me for this person.
Speaker 2: So that's been for me, I think the biggest hurdle
Speaker 2: of even.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, that's it's huge. I've literally talked to
Speaker 1: casting directors and said I'm not after the audition. I've
Speaker 1: literally said I'm not the guy. The guy's actually outdoors
Speaker 1: right now waiting for you. He's incredible. I've talked other
Speaker 1: people into the role that I wanted to get, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a lack of self
Speaker 1: love or appreciation for what I can actually give to
Speaker 1: the role. It probably is a mixture of both. But
Speaker 1: I find myself not doing that anymore. I find myself
Speaker 1: feeling more more confident because I'm also writing, producing, and
Speaker 1: directing my own stuff. And I know that everybody kind
Speaker 1: of likes to categorize the other person. I mean, for instance,
Speaker 1: as I was coming up, I got the whole he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the next Channing Tatum. I'm not Channing Tatum.
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum's Channing Tatum. I'm Ryan Guzman and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make my own thing. And you don't know that yet
Speaker 1: because I haven't showed you that yet. Before Channing Tatum
Speaker 1: was probably getting reference to I don't know. He's a
Speaker 1: good looking guy, so whatever other good looking a lister
Speaker 1: was out there at the time. There's always that comparison game,
Speaker 1: so they're always going to put you in a box.
Speaker 1: It's up to you now to kind of destroy that
Speaker 1: box and recreate it and make it your own. You know,
Speaker 1: own your mistakes, own your failures, and then build from them.
Speaker 1: And it feels a lot easier nowadays when when I
Speaker 1: do these auditions and I don't get the job, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm gonna take what I learned, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write it down and I'm gonna film it myself.
Speaker 1: I'm going to show the world what I've got.
Speaker 4: So of all the hats you wear right now, writer, director, actor,
Speaker 4: what is your current favorite?
Speaker 2: If you had to.
Speaker 1: Pick one, Man, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I love them all the same.
Speaker 1: I love acting, I love art in general. To me,
Speaker 1: an artist is just a storyteller. That's all we're doing,
Speaker 1: whether actor, singer. I love painting, I love sculpting. I
Speaker 1: love doing poetry. I love writing short story, long story form.
Speaker 1: I want to write my own book. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: had a couple of pages already written, like thirty forty
Speaker 1: pages already written. So it's all encompassing to me. I
Speaker 1: have to stay creative and in a state of play,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where the best stuff comes from.
Speaker 2: How awesome was it working with Jayla? Just tell me, like,
Speaker 2: tell me your favorite thing about about Jayla, favorite thing
Speaker 2: about j Lo, Because we love her.
Speaker 1: I mean that she brought pizza. I remember her mind
Speaker 1: you this is like right before our sex scene. So
Speaker 1: that's very ballsy of you. You know, most people want
Speaker 1: to like not only eat salad and whatnot. We here
Speaker 1: grabbing pizza. No. From her, I learned so much watching
Speaker 1: her literally do everything at the same time and be
Speaker 1: good at it. I think at the time she was
Speaker 1: doing two television shows, a movie, a book, and then
Speaker 1: prepping a tour. I was like, I feel lazy, like
Speaker 1: I'm only acting on this movie. So it was just
Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge from her and an insight on
Speaker 1: the life of an a lister. It's like I was
Speaker 1: not prepared for that was like a rocket shiit. I
Speaker 1: did not know what her life entailed until we started
Speaker 1: doing the promotional stuff for that movie. And it's just
Speaker 1: like cameras everywhere you're on TMZ, you're on all these
Speaker 1: just different publications and just you can't go anywhere. So
Speaker 1: there was so many Like I said, it was a
Speaker 1: wealth knowledge.
Speaker 4: I also feel like those opportunities are given to you
Speaker 4: so that you I feel like God kind of gives
Speaker 4: those moments so that you can try it on for
Speaker 4: your own life. Like almost like a little bit of
Speaker 4: a flash forward, you know, like a peek into like
Speaker 4: God's little planner for what you're up to.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't let it be lost on you that
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jlo is like huge. I mean, this is
Speaker 4: the A list at A list, right, and she continues
Speaker 4: to get hotter, which is just really confusing to me
Speaker 4: and also a little defeating. But like she's like a
Speaker 4: decade older than us and she's got like abs and
Speaker 4: now find out she's eating pizza.
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit defeated.
Speaker 2: Night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, is that the secret? Because I feel
Speaker 4: like if I do that, it's not gonna look the.
Speaker 1: Same leave me And I'm trying to do that too,
Speaker 1: and I'm not looking the sign.
Speaker 2: That's great, but now you have the present that is
Speaker 2: available now on digital and on demand. So iila Thisher too.
Speaker 2: I just I love her so much. Ever since Wedding Crashers,
Speaker 2: she's just been like just my fath just comedically she's fantastic.
Speaker 2: But how was working with Greg kinnear and them and
Speaker 2: just tell us about the movie.
Speaker 1: She is so genuine. She's such an incredible person, Like
Speaker 1: she gave me some amazing advice in between doing scenes
Speaker 1: and just giving me inspiration and like betting on myself
Speaker 1: and then she's like, ran, you got to be a superstar.
Speaker 1: Why aren't you a superstar? She's that kind of person.
Speaker 1: She wants the best for everybody around her, and it
Speaker 1: was such a nice environment to work around and play
Speaker 1: and a lot of the comedy and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's a comedic genius, right, and she is. She was
Speaker 1: around a lot of comedic geniuses. So I was kind
Speaker 1: of insecure a little bit to be like, can I
Speaker 1: make you laugh? Because you've seen the best. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna even be able to part. I
Speaker 1: just got the role maybe a week and a half ago,
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, so I tried a lot of things
Speaker 1: out on her, and she laughed at everything and made
Speaker 1: me feel so comfortable and I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can do this, and that's who she is. Great knear
Speaker 1: obviously is a legend. I was fanboying and I was
Speaker 1: trying my absolute best and not to fanboy and I
Speaker 1: really don't ever do that, but the whole time, I
Speaker 1: think it was one of the first takes I was
Speaker 1: doing with him. I was just like watching him. I
Speaker 1: was like oh my line. So it was that out
Speaker 1: of body experience of just being like, I'm working with
Speaker 1: this guy. He's right in front of me. You know.
Speaker 1: He's an incredible actor from plays to on camera for
Speaker 1: a film and TV. He's all around solid person. But
Speaker 1: he was very quiet, kept to himself a lot of
Speaker 1: the times. Every now and then you have like a
Speaker 1: little a little quip, but other than that, it was
Speaker 1: just a really fun, enjoyable set. The kids were awesome
Speaker 1: as well too.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. I love that so much. And then
Speaker 2: personal do you ever talk about your personal life? Where
Speaker 2: are you in your personal life? Do you? Are you married?
Speaker 4: Are you We like to shake people down, Ryan, but
Speaker 4: I hope you're ready.
Speaker 1: My personal life has made a change right now. I'm
Speaker 1: currently a single father and navigating a new landscape. But
Speaker 1: I feel like, like you said, everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 1: and it's only brought me a little closer to what
Speaker 1: true connection is and healthy communication and just I mean,
Speaker 1: it's spread so much change and I'm so grateful for everything.
Speaker 2: How old is your kid?
Speaker 1: My kids are three and five and I rarely keep
Speaker 1: I keep them out of the public eye for a
Speaker 1: good reason. I want them to have as normal a
Speaker 1: life as I can, Yeah, give them.
Speaker 2: We were actually just talking about because I co parent
Speaker 2: with my ex. I've got two kids with my ex,
Speaker 2: and I was just saying earlier on the show, like
Speaker 2: how it's you know, I know that they're where they're
Speaker 2: at the beach right now with their dad, and it's
Speaker 2: like it's so hard the times that I'm not with
Speaker 2: them because I feel like I'm missing out on the
Speaker 2: memories in their childhood. Like I know how important it
Speaker 2: is to have to have them have their time obviously
Speaker 2: with their dad, and you know, and I'm so I'm
Speaker 2: like I'm thrilled for them, and they seem so excited,
Speaker 2: but it also is it's not that natural feeling to
Speaker 2: drop your kids off and then pick them up somewhere else,
Speaker 2: Like you didn't go into it having kids to then
Speaker 2: share them in separate homes and so, you know, as
Speaker 2: happy as I am now in my life, it's still
Speaker 2: just a very It's it's just hard and no matter
Speaker 2: how many years it's been. And I'm curious, like how
Speaker 2: do you kind of how do you walk that path?
Speaker 2: Is it just like being the most present when you
Speaker 2: are with them, or like what do you do to
Speaker 2: just kind of really take in those moments and walk
Speaker 2: this path of the co parenting.
Speaker 1: I think what helps me is allowing myself to understand
Speaker 1: what I have control over and what I don't have
Speaker 1: control over. And at the end of the day, all
Speaker 1: I have control over is the moment in front of me,
Speaker 1: the most present moment I'm in, as well as my
Speaker 1: emotions and my engagement and awareness. So yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of it is when they're not with me. I just
Speaker 1: dropped them off to school before I came here and
Speaker 1: did this interview, and I miss them already, and they're
Speaker 1: with their mom. I know they're in great hands. I
Speaker 1: picked a great person, you know, for to be the
Speaker 1: mother of my children. But I still miss them, and
Speaker 1: I think about them all the time, and I find
Speaker 1: myself busying myself with work a lot of the times
Speaker 1: to kind of distract that they're not there. And so
Speaker 1: I understand where that way, what you're talking about is that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you never go into something thinking that you're going to
Speaker 1: split time, and you never go into something thinking you're
Speaker 1: going to be half in half out, And that's what
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of the times. It's like
Speaker 1: I'm half of the father I felt like I was before,
Speaker 1: because I don't see my presence, my my experience, isn't
Speaker 1: my wisdom isn't imparted on them on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis. So there's a lot of trust that you
Speaker 1: have to build with your partner or your ex and
Speaker 1: communication has to be a whole new thing, has to
Speaker 1: be a new version of healthy because now it's two
Speaker 1: different entities rather than one entity.
Speaker 2: Does dating now seem just exhausting to you, like the
Speaker 2: thought of like dating again? Does it just?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Not dating? I don't want to date. I don't not Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the furthest thing from my mind. Now. I am
Speaker 1: so fulfilled in the time with my kids, working on
Speaker 1: the house and working on my career and working on myself.
Speaker 1: And the dating landscape from what I've heard while I
Speaker 1: was married, has just been horrible lately. Everybody's just hooking up.
Speaker 1: Everybody's just you know, lying to each other and just
Speaker 1: acting as there's something they're not and all of that
Speaker 1: seems like a deterrent. So I figure, to me, if
Speaker 1: there is going to be somebody later down the road,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay on my purpose and that person
Speaker 1: will find me on my purpose and be a parallel
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Well, Ryan, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for coming on everyone watch the Present, available now
Speaker 2: on digital and on demand. Thank you so much, Ryan,
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Have a good one in you too.
Speaker 4: Answers like that are just going to get those women
Speaker 4: sliding into the DMS. I hate to tell it, that's
Speaker 4: exactly what they're all looking for. Healthy guys working onto
Speaker 4: themselves with muscles.
Speaker 2: Great, you're like, I'm on the path, the path purpose.
Speaker 2: Love that. No, he's he's he's a sweetheart. He can
Speaker 2: tell he's he's a good dude. And I love people
Speaker 2: that are just so passionate about the career. And you know,
Speaker 2: I love people that I love. I love the art
Speaker 2: that they just always want to be like creating. I
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so fun.
Speaker 4: It's fun to me because I would consider myself a creator,
Speaker 4: but like in way different avenues. I feel like we're
Speaker 4: not way different. Some overlap but not really. So it's
Speaker 4: fun to me whenever there's like an.
Speaker 3: Actor that we have because the way and.
Speaker 4: I said this last time when we talked to Daniel
Speaker 4: Lord Marcus Anderson, if you will, but like the way
Speaker 4: that you guys see each other's paths and just like
Speaker 4: the questions that come up and the commonalities is always
Speaker 4: so cool to me because it's just like a whole world.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, I know reality TV that's
Speaker 4: nothing like anything y'all are doing when you're like on set.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just seems very authentic too, with like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he loves all of it and he's not just trying
Speaker 2: to be you know, some just famous, you know, like
Speaker 2: he loves all things in the art and I think
Speaker 2: that's very authentic with his and good things come to
Speaker 2: good people, agreed. And it's also to know that, I
Speaker 2: mean we just had that conversation about co parenting than
Speaker 2: he was talking about it as well, So to know
Speaker 2: that there's you know, there's there's empathy to be had
Speaker 2: on both sides, and it's the swing, you know, it's
Speaker 2: hard for both. Yeah, we'll wind down listeners. How does
Speaker 2: Bridgerton sign up?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to do any spoilers, so I'm
Speaker 4: not going to tell you how we sign off now
Speaker 4: on Bridgerton, But I did watch the full series and
Speaker 4: I am just madly in love with Shanda's brain ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I was seeing some people not too happy.
Speaker 3: Have you finished it?
Speaker 2: No, But I was just reading the headlines, you know,
Speaker 2: because headlines are always real.
Speaker 4: There's one thing we've learned, the accuracy and headlines. I
Speaker 4: really you're going to know why I loved it.
Speaker 3: When you finish it.
Speaker 2: Okay, very very up, my alley. Okay, well, love you
Speaker 2: very much. Reader. Dearest gentle listeners, we are signing off
Speaker 2: and we will see you next week. Loyal followers of
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