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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can we just talk about the group message going

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Speaker 2: on right now? Which ones? Oh? Right, because we have one,

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Speaker 2: so our dearest Catherine, this just didn't I'm gonna read

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Speaker 2: like Bridgerton because alas I's a brigidon. Dear wind down listener.

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Speaker 3: Dearest gentle reader, dearest.

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Speaker 2: Podcast listeners, are Katherine Woodard cannot be here today.

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Speaker 3: He regrets to inform you for absence.

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Speaker 2: Because because what we can't say, but we love her

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Speaker 2: very much, we miss her.

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Speaker 3: So she actually had the great Bridgerton name. Catherine Woodard.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you almost did what she hates.

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Speaker 4: I know, I almost said, don't tell her. If she listen,

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Speaker 4: we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: I always love leaving.

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Speaker 4: I love leaving little trinkets to find out if you

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Speaker 4: if our people listen, pressed in a lot, and so

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Speaker 4: far he has.

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Speaker 3: Never come up to me. It's like a little podcast cavender. Hut,

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Speaker 3: I miss you.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, you almost said woodword, and

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Speaker 2: that's like her big thing that she in our defense.

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Speaker 4: Wood Word is a very important avenue in Michigan, the

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Speaker 4: Woodward Dream Cruise.

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Speaker 2: By the way, someone miss spells in our queendom Kristen

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Speaker 2: all the time. So and forward, let's move forward years

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Speaker 2: and she's in our queendom group and she miss spells

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Speaker 2: your name.

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Speaker 4: Also has a name that could be very easily misspelled

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Speaker 4: and isn't.

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Speaker 3: So I'm wondering why it doesn't matter to her like it.

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Speaker 2: Matters to me.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem is is sometimes I then second guess,

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Speaker 2: wait is it with an I or an e? Because

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Speaker 2: then it like freaks me out. I'm like, I know

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Speaker 2: how to spell your name?

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Speaker 4: Are you a Jana or Yana? I never can figure

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Speaker 4: it out either.

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Speaker 2: I can't. We digress, but no, there's a group track

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Speaker 2: going on right now between Preston, oh my soon to

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Speaker 2: be hubs.

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Speaker 3: This is not the one I wish we were going

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Speaker 3: to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So oh, we're going to the other one too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good doctor Google.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, doctor Google. So Preston had spoken about

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Speaker 2: obviously wearing a kilt to the wedding with us Weekly,

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Speaker 2: and so there's a conversation going on right now where

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Speaker 2: Preston says I found some great Camo kilts and then

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Speaker 2: Alan responds back with a photo but kind of a joke,

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Speaker 2: and then he goes, hey, you know, send me both

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Speaker 2: your addresses and I'll connect you to the kilt company

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Speaker 2: we're using. They don't have camo, and Preston's like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm ordering Camo. But like Alan was legit thinking he

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Speaker 2: was just joking about the Camo.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like Alan might regret to inform us

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Speaker 4: of our uninvited to the wedding status soon, because we

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Speaker 4: are a loose sinc.

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Speaker 3: Ships over here at the breast House first of all.

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Speaker 2: But Alan hasn't responded yet. He just he's like all

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Speaker 2: he said was FFS, which just means for sake, So

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Speaker 2: like he's like, no, I'm Presen's like, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: get a Camo kill an army green jacket and a

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Speaker 2: white dress shirt tie and camera boots. And that's when

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Speaker 2: Alan said ffs. And then he's like Pressing goes Scotland

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Speaker 2: ain't ready for this redneck. But hell, Ellen like probably

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Speaker 2: thought he was joking.

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Speaker 4: Did we already talk about how my husband outed where

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Speaker 4: you're getting married?

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Speaker 3: And ospeaklean that you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he I mean he didn't. We knew, I know,

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Speaker 2: But when.

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Speaker 4: I got three calls and a FaceTime in a row

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Speaker 4: I thought maybe there was a car accident and said

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Speaker 4: it was like, does everyone know the Jana is get

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Speaker 4: married in Scotland? And I was like, please tell me

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Speaker 4: they don't know now because you said it and not her.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he does want a camo kill. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how I feel about that.

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Speaker 4: Amazon doesn't have a lot to offer that looks credible

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Speaker 4: if I'm honest. So that's why I reached out to

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Speaker 4: our native Scotland homeboy and was like, hey, mate, wondering

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Speaker 4: if you could help me with something so that he

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Speaker 4: doesn't look like a trash bag and into your wedding.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I think it's I think it's so fun. I

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Speaker 2: think you should wear a camo killed. It would only

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Speaker 3: Something like that.

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Speaker 4: You know Nick wants to wear one too, and so

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well if you match, then you two are

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Speaker 4: going to like the Ushers. This is just getting weird,

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Speaker 4: don't I don't know what you want me to do,

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Speaker 4: but I'm trying to manage it.

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Speaker 2: On my side is that they can do You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about the other group chat.

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Speaker 4: Going on, the one where everyone diagnoses them is also

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Speaker 4: with an ailment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fun one. We've got a Dear Amy group,

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Speaker 2: which is Amy's our therapist. And so something's you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of going on with Catherine, Catherine right now, and

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Speaker 2: don't come to this club. This is a bad club.

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Speaker 2: My club is like we diagnose with the worst things possible,

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Speaker 2: and Kristen's club is we don't.

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Speaker 3: And so I married you.

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Speaker 4: I tell you this all the time. Preston is the

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Speaker 4: male Verson. I don't know if maybe it is actually

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Speaker 4: an artist thing, because it might be there is. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's another artist. I won't say his name, but I

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Speaker 4: also know he's diagnizing himself as we speak. I can

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Speaker 4: almost promise you. So I'm always like Cat, I was like,

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Speaker 4: you can't. I need you on my team because I

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Speaker 4: need like the we're speaking well thoughts and like everything

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Speaker 4: is okay. We are well loved, loved and protected. And

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Speaker 4: last night was a spiral. But then I did out

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Speaker 4: myself to you guys and say, so here's the thing,

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Speaker 4: like if you lose a leg, I will save your

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Speaker 4: life with like a hair tie, a hope in Jesus,

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Speaker 4: and I will handle it. I will call nine one one,

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Speaker 4: I will we will I'll save your life, and I

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Speaker 4: will not even after. There won't be some like crash

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Speaker 4: afterwards where I like have an adrenaline rehab or anything.

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Speaker 4: It'll just be like, Okay, I'm glad we got that

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Speaker 3: Now. If there is a weather warning.

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Speaker 2: If there is ever a weather warning that is three

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Speaker 2: hours away, I will get a text message from christ

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Speaker 2: And saying, buckle down, get your helmets. Everybody's go to safety.

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Speaker 2: Do not drive. We cannot go out. And I'm like, Christen,

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Speaker 2: it's three hours away. We're okay, sweetheart, is gonna have

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Speaker 2: ease Like It's like it's like buckle down, Nashville, We're

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Speaker 4: I like have a helmet, boots, a water bottled tape

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Speaker 4: their helmets, and and love is always like is everything okay.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, everything is fine. Everything is fine. She's like

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Speaker 4: the moiro moving so swiftly.

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Speaker 2: I said, you heard the girl on the plane on

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Speaker 2: the Bride's Maid movie. She's like, we're going down. It's

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Speaker 2: not it's not good. Everything's gonna be bad.

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Speaker 3: We're all gonna die. We balance each other out.

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Speaker 2: Cramer's Oh we do. It's good. It's good, it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I miss you too. I know I'm in la right

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Speaker 2: now for doing something fun. Uh, having the week?

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Speaker 4: Anything you can share with us, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Yet but soon, but it's it's good. The kids are

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Speaker 2: I did post about it, which I always I struggle

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Speaker 2: how do I say this. I don't want to post

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Speaker 2: I'm not the only mom that feels this when I

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Speaker 2: drop the kids off, because it's not a natural feeling

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Speaker 2: just not a natural feeling, Like you don't have kids

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Speaker 2: to then be in separate houses, you know. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the case is with this, but Mike

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Speaker 2: Like maybe that's a little like I'm kind of giving

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Speaker 2: It's just it still stings that I'm like, well, that's

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Speaker 2: share childhood memories it was supposed to be had together.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Makes a lot of sense. I actually don't know how

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Speaker 4: you do it. I've always admired I actually I don't

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Speaker 4: say many good things about Mike, but I admire how

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Speaker 4: Mike is handling things too. I feel like you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if there is a space you can put

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Speaker 4: I'm just again, I don't know this walk at all.

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Speaker 4: But recently, therapist Amy has had me rename some family

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Speaker 4: members because she says the title that comes with them

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Speaker 4: comes with an expectation. Whether I'm kind of admitting that

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Speaker 4: to go do those things with grandparents, you maybe feel different.

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Speaker 2: Mmm mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: So I wonder if we could do something in your

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Speaker 3: I don't know, brainstorming.

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Speaker 1: people into the role that I wanted to get, and

437
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a lack of self

438
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Speaker 1: love or appreciation for what I can actually give to

439
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: the role. It probably is a mixture of both. But

440
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: I find myself not doing that anymore. I find myself

441
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Speaker 1: feeling more more confident because I'm also writing, producing, and

442
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: directing my own stuff. And I know that everybody kind

443
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: of likes to categorize the other person. I mean, for instance,

444
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: as I was coming up, I got the whole he's

445
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna be the next Channing Tatum. I'm not Channing Tatum.

446
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum's Channing Tatum. I'm Ryan Guzman and I'm gonna

447
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: make my own thing. And you don't know that yet

448
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: because I haven't showed you that yet. Before Channing Tatum

449
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: was probably getting reference to I don't know. He's a

450
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: good looking guy, so whatever other good looking a lister

451
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: was out there at the time. There's always that comparison game,

452
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: so they're always going to put you in a box.

453
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: It's up to you now to kind of destroy that

454
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Speaker 1: box and recreate it and make it your own. You know,

455
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: own your mistakes, own your failures, and then build from them.

456
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 1: And it feels a lot easier nowadays when when I

457
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: do these auditions and I don't get the job, and

458
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm gonna take what I learned, I'm

459
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna write it down and I'm gonna film it myself.

460
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Speaker 1: I'm going to show the world what I've got.

461
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Speaker 4: So of all the hats you wear right now, writer, director, actor,

462
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 4: what is your current favorite?

463
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Speaker 2: If you had to.

464
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Speaker 1: Pick one, Man, I don't know.

465
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: I love them all the same.

466
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: I love acting, I love art in general. To me,

467
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: an artist is just a storyteller. That's all we're doing,

468
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: whether actor, singer. I love painting, I love sculpting. I

469
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: love doing poetry. I love writing short story, long story form.

470
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: I want to write my own book. I mean, I've

471
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: had a couple of pages already written, like thirty forty

472
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: pages already written. So it's all encompassing to me. I

473
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: have to stay creative and in a state of play,

474
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Speaker 1: and I think that's where the best stuff comes from.

475
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Speaker 2: How awesome was it working with Jayla? Just tell me, like,

476
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: tell me your favorite thing about about Jayla, favorite thing

477
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: about j Lo, Because we love her.

478
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean that she brought pizza. I remember her mind

479
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: you this is like right before our sex scene. So

480
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: that's very ballsy of you. You know, most people want

481
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: to like not only eat salad and whatnot. We here

482
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: grabbing pizza. No. From her, I learned so much watching

483
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: her literally do everything at the same time and be

484
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Speaker 1: good at it. I think at the time she was

485
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: doing two television shows, a movie, a book, and then

486
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: prepping a tour. I was like, I feel lazy, like

487
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: I'm only acting on this movie. So it was just

488
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge from her and an insight on

489
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: the life of an a lister. It's like I was

490
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 1: not prepared for that was like a rocket shiit. I

491
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: did not know what her life entailed until we started

492
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: doing the promotional stuff for that movie. And it's just

493
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: like cameras everywhere you're on TMZ, you're on all these

494
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: just different publications and just you can't go anywhere. So

495
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: there was so many Like I said, it was a

496
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Speaker 1: wealth knowledge.

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Speaker 4: I also feel like those opportunities are given to you

498
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: so that you I feel like God kind of gives

499
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Speaker 4: those moments so that you can try it on for

500
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Speaker 4: your own life. Like almost like a little bit of

501
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: a flash forward, you know, like a peek into like

502
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 4: God's little planner for what you're up to.

503
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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't let it be lost on you that

504
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Speaker 3: you were.

505
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Speaker 4: I mean, Jlo is like huge. I mean, this is

506
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Speaker 4: the A list at A list, right, and she continues

507
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: to get hotter, which is just really confusing to me

508
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 4: and also a little defeating. But like she's like a

509
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: decade older than us and she's got like abs and

510
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: now find out she's eating pizza.

511
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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit defeated.

512
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Speaker 2: Night.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, is that the secret? Because I feel

514
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: like if I do that, it's not gonna look the.

515
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: Same leave me And I'm trying to do that too,

516
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not looking the sign.

517
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: That's great, but now you have the present that is

518
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: available now on digital and on demand. So iila Thisher too.

519
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Speaker 2: I just I love her so much. Ever since Wedding Crashers,

520
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: she's just been like just my fath just comedically she's fantastic.

521
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: But how was working with Greg kinnear and them and

522
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: just tell us about the movie.

523
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: She is so genuine. She's such an incredible person, Like

524
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: she gave me some amazing advice in between doing scenes

525
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: and just giving me inspiration and like betting on myself

526
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: and then she's like, ran, you got to be a superstar.

527
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Why aren't you a superstar? She's that kind of person.

528
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: She wants the best for everybody around her, and it

529
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: was such a nice environment to work around and play

530
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of the comedy and stuff. I mean,

531
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Speaker 1: she's a comedic genius, right, and she is. She was

532
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: around a lot of comedic geniuses. So I was kind

533
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: of insecure a little bit to be like, can I

534
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: make you laugh? Because you've seen the best. I don't

535
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna even be able to part. I

536
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: just got the role maybe a week and a half ago,

537
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, so I tried a lot of things

538
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: out on her, and she laughed at everything and made

539
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: me feel so comfortable and I was like, Okay, I

540
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: can do this, and that's who she is. Great knear

541
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: obviously is a legend. I was fanboying and I was

542
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: trying my absolute best and not to fanboy and I

543
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: really don't ever do that, but the whole time, I

544
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: think it was one of the first takes I was

545
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: doing with him. I was just like watching him. I

546
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: was like oh my line. So it was that out

547
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: of body experience of just being like, I'm working with

548
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: this guy. He's right in front of me. You know.

549
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: He's an incredible actor from plays to on camera for

550
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: a film and TV. He's all around solid person. But

551
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: he was very quiet, kept to himself a lot of

552
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the times. Every now and then you have like a

553
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: little a little quip, but other than that, it was

554
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: just a really fun, enjoyable set. The kids were awesome

555
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: as well too.

556
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: That's so cool. I love that so much. And then

557
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: personal do you ever talk about your personal life? Where

558
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: are you in your personal life? Do you? Are you married?

559
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 4: Are you We like to shake people down, Ryan, but

560
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: I hope you're ready.

561
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: My personal life has made a change right now. I'm

562
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: currently a single father and navigating a new landscape. But

563
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I feel like, like you said, everything happens for a reason,

564
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: and it's only brought me a little closer to what

565
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: true connection is and healthy communication and just I mean,

566
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: it's spread so much change and I'm so grateful for everything.

567
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: How old is your kid?

568
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: My kids are three and five and I rarely keep

569
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I keep them out of the public eye for a

570
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: good reason. I want them to have as normal a

571
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: life as I can, Yeah, give them.

572
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: We were actually just talking about because I co parent

573
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Speaker 2: with my ex. I've got two kids with my ex,

574
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Speaker 2: and I was just saying earlier on the show, like

575
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: how it's you know, I know that they're where they're

576
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: at the beach right now with their dad, and it's

577
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: like it's so hard the times that I'm not with

578
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: them because I feel like I'm missing out on the

579
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: memories in their childhood. Like I know how important it

580
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: is to have to have them have their time obviously

581
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: with their dad, and you know, and I'm so I'm

582
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: like I'm thrilled for them, and they seem so excited,

583
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: but it also is it's not that natural feeling to

584
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: drop your kids off and then pick them up somewhere else,

585
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Like you didn't go into it having kids to then

586
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: share them in separate homes and so, you know, as

587
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: happy as I am now in my life, it's still

588
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: just a very It's it's just hard and no matter

589
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 2: how many years it's been. And I'm curious, like how

590
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: do you kind of how do you walk that path?

591
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: Is it just like being the most present when you

592
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: are with them, or like what do you do to

593
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: just kind of really take in those moments and walk

594
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: this path of the co parenting.

595
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Speaker 1: I think what helps me is allowing myself to understand

596
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: what I have control over and what I don't have

597
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: control over. And at the end of the day, all

598
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: I have control over is the moment in front of me,

599
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: the most present moment I'm in, as well as my

600
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: emotions and my engagement and awareness. So yeah, a lot

601
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: of it is when they're not with me. I just

602
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: dropped them off to school before I came here and

603
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: did this interview, and I miss them already, and they're

604
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: with their mom. I know they're in great hands. I

605
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: picked a great person, you know, for to be the

606
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: mother of my children. But I still miss them, and

607
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: I think about them all the time, and I find

608
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Speaker 1: myself busying myself with work a lot of the times

609
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: to kind of distract that they're not there. And so

610
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: I understand where that way, what you're talking about is that, Yeah,

611
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: you never go into something thinking that you're going to

612
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: split time, and you never go into something thinking you're

613
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: going to be half in half out, And that's what

614
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of the times. It's like

615
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm half of the father I felt like I was before,

616
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: because I don't see my presence, my my experience, isn't

617
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: my wisdom isn't imparted on them on a day to

618
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: day basis. So there's a lot of trust that you

619
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: have to build with your partner or your ex and

620
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: communication has to be a whole new thing, has to

621
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: be a new version of healthy because now it's two

622
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: different entities rather than one entity.

623
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Speaker 2: Does dating now seem just exhausting to you, like the

624
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: thought of like dating again? Does it just?

625
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 3: No?

626
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Not dating? I don't want to date. I don't not Yeah,

627
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: that's the furthest thing from my mind. Now. I am

628
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: so fulfilled in the time with my kids, working on

629
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: the house and working on my career and working on myself.

630
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: And the dating landscape from what I've heard while I

631
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: was married, has just been horrible lately. Everybody's just hooking up.

632
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's just you know, lying to each other and just

633
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: acting as there's something they're not and all of that

634
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: seems like a deterrent. So I figure, to me, if

635
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: there is going to be somebody later down the road,

636
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay on my purpose and that person

637
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: will find me on my purpose and be a parallel

638
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: to that.

639
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Well, Ryan, thank you so

640
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: much for coming on everyone watch the Present, available now

641
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: on digital and on demand. Thank you so much, Ryan,

642
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, appreciate it.

643
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: Have a good one in you too.

644
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Answers like that are just going to get those women

645
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: sliding into the DMS. I hate to tell it, that's

646
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: exactly what they're all looking for. Healthy guys working onto

647
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: themselves with muscles.

648
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: Great, you're like, I'm on the path, the path purpose.

649
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: Love that. No, he's he's he's a sweetheart. He can

650
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: tell he's he's a good dude. And I love people

651
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: that are just so passionate about the career. And you know,

652
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: I love people that I love. I love the art

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Speaker 2: that they just always want to be like creating. I

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Speaker 2: love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so fun.

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Speaker 4: It's fun to me because I would consider myself a creator,

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Speaker 4: but like in way different avenues. I feel like we're

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Speaker 4: not way different. Some overlap but not really. So it's

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Speaker 4: fun to me whenever there's like an.

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Speaker 3: Actor that we have because the way and.

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Speaker 4: I said this last time when we talked to Daniel

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Speaker 4: Lord Marcus Anderson, if you will, but like the way

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Speaker 4: that you guys see each other's paths and just like

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Speaker 4: the questions that come up and the commonalities is always

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Speaker 4: so cool to me because it's just like a whole world.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, I know reality TV that's

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Speaker 4: nothing like anything y'all are doing when you're like on set.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just seems very authentic too, with like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he loves all of it and he's not just trying

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Speaker 2: to be you know, some just famous, you know, like

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Speaker 2: he loves all things in the art and I think

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Speaker 2: that's very authentic with his and good things come to

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Speaker 2: good people, agreed. And it's also to know that, I

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Speaker 2: mean we just had that conversation about co parenting than

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Speaker 2: he was talking about it as well, So to know

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Speaker 2: that there's you know, there's there's empathy to be had

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Speaker 2: on both sides, and it's the swing, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: hard for both. Yeah, we'll wind down listeners. How does

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Speaker 2: Bridgerton sign up?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to do any spoilers, so I'm

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Speaker 4: not going to tell you how we sign off now

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Speaker 4: on Bridgerton, But I did watch the full series and

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Speaker 4: I am just madly in love with Shanda's brain ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I was seeing some people not too happy.

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Speaker 3: Have you finished it?

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Speaker 2: No, But I was just reading the headlines, you know,

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Speaker 2: because headlines are always real.

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Speaker 4: There's one thing we've learned, the accuracy and headlines. I

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Speaker 4: really you're going to know why I loved it.

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Speaker 3: When you finish it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very very up, my alley. Okay, well, love you

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Speaker 2: very much. Reader. Dearest gentle listeners, we are signing off

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Speaker 2: and we will see you next week. Loyal followers of

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Speaker 2: the Ton