Speaker 1: Are you leave then? I you wanta way back home?
Speaker 1: Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you.
Speaker 3: Claim and give us time and a termino and gay.
Speaker 1: We want to send you off in stive.
Speaker 4: We wanna welcome you back home.
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it. We scared her?
Speaker 2: Was it fine?
Speaker 3: Melborn?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do your need you ride? Ride you with Karen and Chris?
Speaker 1: Welcome to Do you need a ride? This is Chris.
Speaker 3: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgaraff. Hello, Karen, Hi Chris.
Speaker 3: How's it going.
Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm back. I'm back in town.
Speaker 6: I've been I've been gone for a month and a
Speaker 6: half and I'm back in my hot apartment and it
Speaker 6: feels weird.
Speaker 2: Welcome to.
Speaker 3: Straight up one hundred and ten degree la. Yeah, free
Speaker 3: some This is not our usual summer usually gets hot
Speaker 3: in October, but we're not doing that anymore. The polar
Speaker 3: ice caps are melting, water levels are coming up because
Speaker 3: the bodies are ice is melting, and bodies are being
Speaker 3: discovered in the.
Speaker 6: Alps, tundras are being disturbed you're.
Speaker 2: Not supposed to are being released.
Speaker 6: A lot of algae is no longer. Many breeds of
Speaker 6: wolf have become extinct or are.
Speaker 2: Being hunted like they're on Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: Because they kill deer, and deer.
Speaker 6: They deserve it. One also, deer are for humans to shoot.
Speaker 6: That's what The governor of Montana, a guy that got
Speaker 6: elected because he punched a reporter. I think it happed
Speaker 6: him when he punched a guy, and everyone's like, I
Speaker 6: love that guy.
Speaker 1: I like this guy's jib, and he made it.
Speaker 6: He wants people to be able to kill wolves.
Speaker 1: I think the first thing I mentioned.
Speaker 3: Because I'm referencing this the same article, maybe that encompassed
Speaker 3: this story that they changed the law and made it
Speaker 3: legal to hunt wolves in Yellowstone Park because they were
Speaker 3: becoming a problem. And apparently that you said the governor
Speaker 3: of Montana, he.
Speaker 2: Was one of the people killing them.
Speaker 1: My thing, Oh sure, sure.
Speaker 6: He seems like a Safari guy, someone that has a
Speaker 6: ivory belt buckle.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a elephant foot as a stool. I've seen those.
Speaker 3: You just hit it on the umbrella, umbrella hold her
Speaker 3: elephant foot?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the biggest, most beautiful mammal to dies tell
Speaker 6: you can store your umbrellas in style.
Speaker 3: Look, guys, audience, we need to let you know we've
Speaker 3: listed off so many negative things just right at the top,
Speaker 3: only because we know that our guest today is going
Speaker 3: to counter all those negative vibes with these incredibly positive.
Speaker 6: And normally we inform our guests before we record that
Speaker 6: we will bring them into the conversation. Claire's a professional,
Speaker 6: and she's waiting patiently in the wings, even though we
Speaker 6: didn't say, hey, we're going to chat for a couple
Speaker 6: of months.
Speaker 3: Yes, No, she gets contact clues. She understands the back
Speaker 3: and forth normal conversation because she's a professional.
Speaker 6: In the business. She's someone I very much enjoy watching
Speaker 6: do stand up.
Speaker 2: She plays clubs and colleges, so many colleges.
Speaker 1: Currently a writer on Saturday Night, Live from New York,
Speaker 1: Live from New York, Everyone, Lenda here, now, won't you
Speaker 1: to our guest today, Claire?
Speaker 5: Okay, Claire, I'm clear, came from Live from New York.
Speaker 6: It's Comma, It's Saturday Night. That's the they still that's
Speaker 6: the name of the show, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, since I think the eighties.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and you are you still working on that show?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I just got picked up for another hot season.
Speaker 2: That's great relations Thank you, that's great news.
Speaker 1: You're doing it.
Speaker 5: I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: Was that what you were trying to celebrate when you
Speaker 3: remember that you want to do this podcast?
Speaker 2: And seven people left your apartment?
Speaker 5: So you know the perils of having a friend visit
Speaker 5: from out of town, and you're just much kind of like,
Speaker 5: because you're such a good friend, you're so focused on
Speaker 5: there having a good time. Yeah, And this friend, in particular,
Speaker 5: Megan Keiser, hates New York decided that she hates it,
Speaker 5: and so I'm always like, she has to have a
Speaker 5: good time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think she's having fun. She bought a
Speaker 6: fun dress. Everyone was getting ready in the background for
Speaker 6: this Broadway show or something, and Claire can't go.
Speaker 1: She has to sit in her hot apartment.
Speaker 3: Just to stay and make bullshit conversation with us.
Speaker 5: Honestly, don't tell them, but I'd rather do that than
Speaker 5: anything else.
Speaker 2: He thanks time.
Speaker 3: Wait, Claire, can you just tell give us a New
Speaker 3: York update? Is it also boiling hot in New York?
Speaker 3: And what's it like?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: If we left your apartment and went out onto the
Speaker 3: street in New York, Right, it's a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of a New York Minute with Claire Okaine and Okay.
Speaker 5: We're walking out of the door of my uh three
Speaker 5: story building, not a brown stone, but there are bricks
Speaker 5: in it. And you walk out and then you just
Speaker 5: kind of what hits you first is the stench of
Speaker 5: summer trash, because not only is it, you know with
Speaker 5: the my phone says it's ninety degrees, but it feels
Speaker 5: like one hundred and ten. Yeah, that kind of vibe
Speaker 5: rats abound. There's a guy over there going, hey, don't fuck.
Speaker 2: It, and uh, you know, he just maybe he was
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 5: He was in a car and it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, don't let her paint the picture.
Speaker 2: This is really.
Speaker 5: I'm walking down the street. I immediately start sweating from
Speaker 5: the below my boobs. It's dripping down. It's kind of collecting,
Speaker 5: creating sort of like a nice a line of kind
Speaker 5: of wet.
Speaker 1: This is turning into a sultry a romance novel.
Speaker 5: Well, well just wait because just then my band aid
Speaker 5: falls off from the humidity and I have to replace
Speaker 5: it with the band aid that I had to just
Speaker 5: did my little bag.
Speaker 2: Is it crazy? Human?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty bad right now. Just today is the
Speaker 5: first day where it's bearable to be outside for longer
Speaker 5: than an hour.
Speaker 2: But and are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 5: Originally, I'm from San Jose, California.
Speaker 3: Skate city, that's right Bay Area. So this humidity and
Speaker 3: this kind of that kind of heat humidity combos not
Speaker 3: anything you're used to.
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm used to dry heat, dry valley heat.
Speaker 5: I think San Jose is like it feels almost identical
Speaker 5: to La geographically. Yeah, that's thet.
Speaker 6: Isn't it called skate city? Didn't you skate for when
Speaker 6: you were younger?
Speaker 5: I still skate every once in a while, and my
Speaker 5: knees don't click.
Speaker 6: But you and I skated in Denver together, and both
Speaker 6: of us hadn't done it for a long time.
Speaker 5: We did, We were good at it.
Speaker 6: We just started watching. Well, I've been trying to stick
Speaker 6: with it. I've made like an effort lately the last
Speaker 6: few years. But at that time you and I both
Speaker 6: were like, I don't remember how to even stand on
Speaker 6: this thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: So you skated at Caesar Chavez Park? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is that a famous spot?
Speaker 6: I've just skated in San Jose before? Yeah, Jose Rojo,
Speaker 6: the Old the tilt Mode Army. I'm a real The
Speaker 6: way people talk about football, I can bore you to
Speaker 6: tears with with skateboarding.
Speaker 5: Yeah I can as well, a lot of useless knowledge
Speaker 5: about shoes and whose shoes is whose? But Karen, do
Speaker 5: you skate?
Speaker 2: Don't worry about me. You guys can talk about it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 6: Karen does reveal over the years she has revealed an
Speaker 6: interest in skating, and each time it makes me very excited.
Speaker 1: But she doesn't overdo it well.
Speaker 3: Because first of all, in the eighties that was being
Speaker 3: a poser is the worst thing you could possibly be,
Speaker 3: so like you could not even approach if you weren't
Speaker 3: doing it. You couldn't like talk about it as if
Speaker 3: you did that. That's so for these days, Like kids
Speaker 3: these days are like you read one article on the
Speaker 3: Internet and suddenly you're the expert about writing you know,
Speaker 3: dramatic short short limited series for Netflix or whatever. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I'm from a different time. But then also it
Speaker 3: was a little bit of just spying on boys who skated,
Speaker 3: and yes, that very specific vibe of skating which was
Speaker 3: very alluring, which was that skater boys were nice and
Speaker 3: they were chill, and they were basically stoners. But that
Speaker 3: kind of translated in my teen years, which was, you know,
Speaker 3: literally the mid eighties very a very violent time. They
Speaker 3: almost seemed like zen masters, where you like a security
Speaker 3: guard would come and be like, get the fuck out
Speaker 3: of here, and they'd be like, be cool man, and
Speaker 3: then I'd be like, oh my god, yeiled back, how
Speaker 3: did you do that?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: They just seemed like amazing, other worldly dudes. And they
Speaker 3: had long hair before anyone had it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: it was a fascinating world.
Speaker 6: A lot of people don't give skateboarding a credit for
Speaker 6: being at the forefront of many fashions, including hip hop fashions,
Speaker 6: which I could talk about for hours.
Speaker 1: But snooze fast, am I right? What a snooze festival?
Speaker 1: That goodness I was.
Speaker 5: I was definitely surprised at how sensitive, specifically sensitive, I
Speaker 5: guess it's the word wall use. Escape boys were. They
Speaker 5: really felt it all. They felt it deeply, and they
Speaker 5: had to hurt themselves in order to kind of feel alive. Ye,
Speaker 5: And I'm down with.
Speaker 1: That, yeah entirely.
Speaker 3: That's like you might as well be a poet, you
Speaker 3: might as well be there with a quill and just
Speaker 3: be like, let's do this thing. Because what something I
Speaker 3: learned when I was older was, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: those kids, skateboarding was the thing that you could.
Speaker 2: Do like right outside your house.
Speaker 3: You didn't need to ride anywhere, you didn't have to
Speaker 3: depend on anybody.
Speaker 2: To get you there or pick you up.
Speaker 3: That the whole thing was a very kind of latchkey
Speaker 3: independent child culture and or I have to get out
Speaker 3: of this fucking house because my stepdad is a monster
Speaker 3: culture or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like very much.
Speaker 3: It was almost like formed by those kids that are like,
Speaker 3: can I just go down to the ravine for a
Speaker 3: while and get escape?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I always wonder and assume.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I would have got into bad things
Speaker 6: if it wasn't for skateboarding with all my idle time,
Speaker 6: and my parents weren't ever asking me where I was going.
Speaker 6: You know, I had all this freedom, but I just
Speaker 6: was skateboard meeting in parking lots with supportive friends. Thank
Speaker 6: god I was doing that instead of you know, catching
Speaker 6: this reefer madness or going to church or something else
Speaker 6: that would have sucked me into dangerous idding.
Speaker 5: The only two things.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's it in my town.
Speaker 6: But the one thing I do, Like when Isaac Kid
Speaker 6: and we'd get these Eastern exposure videos, like skating in
Speaker 6: New York and Philadelphia, and you'd say that it was
Speaker 6: so rough and so like cobblestony potholes and.
Speaker 1: Like you said, piles of garbage.
Speaker 6: Apparently every time I've been to New York, the garbage
Speaker 6: people are on strike and there's just stinky piles of
Speaker 6: heathcliff fish and it's so rough.
Speaker 1: Where do you go when you roll around? Now? Where
Speaker 1: do you go to skateboard?
Speaker 5: I kind I'm kind of just literally rolling around these
Speaker 5: days on my little Zip singer.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, yeah, I just go.
Speaker 5: I'm riding in the bike lanes. They're relatively smooth. Everyone's
Speaker 5: all go to a park called Betsy Head.
Speaker 1: Betsy Head, Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: It's got nice transition, it's got pools, and that's all
Speaker 5: I can really do is kind of pump my way
Speaker 5: around these yeah, around these pools.
Speaker 1: That's the funnest thing you can do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then school gets out and I get really
Speaker 5: scared of all the teens. I guess I'm self conscious.
Speaker 5: And then one of the mass for a cigarette and
Speaker 5: I gotta go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen year old's too cool for me.
Speaker 6: I have to hit the bricks scary.
Speaker 5: I'm trying. I'm trying to get back into it. That's
Speaker 5: otherwise I'm sedentary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 6: I gotta do it just because it's the only thing
Speaker 6: that makes me sweat. I'm glad to hear that you've
Speaker 6: been gating again, Claire.
Speaker 3: Do you think that New York and Los Angeles are different?
Speaker 3: And if you do, how WHOA.
Speaker 5: I've never thought about it that way. I would say
Speaker 5: New York is there's a lot to do. It's good.
Speaker 5: New York is good for a busy mind. It's a
Speaker 5: good place to quiet a busy mind, which I have.
Speaker 5: La is bad for a busy mind. Wide open spaces
Speaker 5: is why is wide open bad brains? I don't know why.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to sound smart' it's working, but yeah, I
Speaker 5: don't know. Just generally, I mean different versions of the
Speaker 5: same people everywhere, all around the country, always all around
Speaker 5: the world. Big cities, every big city is kind of
Speaker 5: the same at this point. Everybody's got an M and
Speaker 5: M store.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 5: You got a Nike where I don't know, I don't
Speaker 5: really know what I'm talking about, but you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, yes you do. New York, London, San Francisco.
Speaker 5: We're all going to the Eminem store.
Speaker 2: We're buying them in bulk. We love them. We hardly
Speaker 2: ever get them.
Speaker 1: You need to get.
Speaker 2: Them this way. It's so important.
Speaker 6: Yeah, every time I leave New York, just inexplicably buy
Speaker 6: a Swatch watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a Swatch store.
Speaker 3: Yeah it has a big, tall front and a character
Speaker 3: hanging off or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how can you not be a part of that?
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 6: I walk right towards candy colors no matter what it is,
Speaker 6: be it watch or candy.
Speaker 3: You know what it makes me think of is does
Speaker 3: LA have an Eminem store? I don't think it has
Speaker 3: a featured and publicly accessible.
Speaker 6: Maybe, but it's probably a universal and you have to
Speaker 6: pay twenty five dollars to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, might as well be a private.
Speaker 5: Definitely a city walk situation, I think, yeah, Like, because
Speaker 5: you know, New York and London have like the square,
Speaker 5: that one square where everybody goes Times New York It's.
Speaker 2: Time, it's translated as Times, and yeah.
Speaker 5: London, London is the other one. I guess LA doesn't
Speaker 5: really have the walkability of that big kind of a
Speaker 5: city feeling but no, so they're therefore no m ms
Speaker 5: readily available. Something to think about.
Speaker 1: You there, like what five years ago?
Speaker 5: Yes, I moved to the day that Trump was inaugurated,
Speaker 5: and that's like the only date I can really remember.
Speaker 1: So you were pretty excited. Then when you way you
Speaker 1: want to congratulate.
Speaker 6: Him trying to get his closest around in front of
Speaker 6: his towers.
Speaker 1: Good job, mister, I loved you and home alone too.
Speaker 5: Let me shake your answer.
Speaker 1: Why are you squeezing it so hard? Sir?
Speaker 5: I feel like he doesn't really shake. He probably pinches
Speaker 5: a claw.
Speaker 1: I watched the mashup.
Speaker 6: He grabs it and yanks the person towards him, and
Speaker 6: it looks painful, and that person always makes a weird face.
Speaker 6: And I hope you got that opportunity.
Speaker 5: One day, one of these days.
Speaker 1: One day, one day.
Speaker 3: Have I ever told on this podcast told my Trump story?
Speaker 6: Boy, I'll stop you interrupt you of course I'll do
Speaker 6: that anyway.
Speaker 2: Tell me if it's this is a repeat, okay.
Speaker 3: But I think it's fun because it was so pre
Speaker 3: It was in the early two thousands, and we went
Speaker 3: to record a bit in the Trump Tower in his
Speaker 3: offices for The Ellen Show and it was. It was
Speaker 3: basically an apprentice. It was supposed to be a cold
Speaker 3: open for one of her New York shows, So it
Speaker 3: was an.
Speaker 2: Apprentice like spoof.
Speaker 3: Okay, And this was before Trump threatened us with his politics,
Speaker 3: and was mostly just a good time, rich symbol guy
Speaker 3: in New York City and who had a TV show
Speaker 3: And we walked in so it was like me, another writer,
Speaker 3: and then the crew and we get off the elevator.
Speaker 3: It literally is like nineteen eighty one, and he walks
Speaker 3: up with cutout clippings in his hand of his ratings
Speaker 3: and immediately starts telling the first man that he meets
Speaker 3: of like last night we did one point nine million
Speaker 3: or whatever the number.
Speaker 6: People to just say elevator attendant. But he was a man,
Speaker 6: so he had to address him first.
Speaker 3: Literally it was like a cardboard cutout of a person. Yes,
Speaker 3: he had to address the man first. And also it
Speaker 3: was this very strange, like not even a high how
Speaker 3: are you nothing, normal person like he just came toward
Speaker 3: trying to find the like important person he needed to
Speaker 3: talk to and bragging about his ratings. It was so strange,
Speaker 3: and it just continued to be equally strange all day long.
Speaker 3: But I mean we were only there for a couple hours.
Speaker 6: You've been in I haven't heard that at all. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you haven't told a lot of these Ellen stories.
Speaker 3: I wanted to save up well that that one really
Speaker 3: is a Trump story, but then it just makes me go, like, yes,
Speaker 3: so many people included him as a joke. He became
Speaker 3: a part of the lexicon of this, just this, oh this,
Speaker 3: you know, he's a rich guy and he's funny or
Speaker 3: he's fun or something, when in fact, he had you know,
Speaker 3: since he began, like since the eighties, he'd never paid
Speaker 3: any workers like he like basically made it his job
Speaker 3: to rip off like contractors and workers in New York City,
Speaker 3: Like he's should have gone to jail time and time again,
Speaker 3: just like one of the most evil people before he
Speaker 3: even got into politics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to write his golden Wonka Vader?
Speaker 2: So crazy?
Speaker 1: Have you?
Speaker 6: Have you been enjoying the Snel job? Is it fun?
Speaker 6: Is exciting as it's scary?
Speaker 5: Is it it's all all of the above.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I when I first started working there, it was maybe
Speaker 5: the most terrified I've ever been sure, and I immediately yeah,
Speaker 5: I immediately reverted to like how I felt like first
Speaker 5: day of not even high school, first day of like
Speaker 5: middle school, sure, where I'm like, no one's talking to me,
Speaker 5: Why is no one talking to me? Why is everyone
Speaker 5: talking to this person? Why are they talking to me?
Speaker 5: Like immediately freaking out and feeling self conscious and inadequate,
Speaker 5: and I kind of figured out a way to explain
Speaker 5: to people how it feels where this is how I
Speaker 5: see working at SNL, Like your first week at SNL.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, when you you're taking a shit
Speaker 5: and you get really hot and you have to take
Speaker 5: off all your clothes.
Speaker 1: While you're walking around New York City.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5: This is just when you're maybe I don't know, it's
Speaker 5: just me, but when you're like you're you're on the
Speaker 5: on the toilet, you're taking the ship, and you're like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I just have to take off all
Speaker 5: my clothes. You take off all your clothes and then
Speaker 5: you go, oh wait, I forgot to lock the door,
Speaker 5: but the toilet's too far away from the door, and
Speaker 5: then you go, oh no. Also, Lord Michaels is coming
Speaker 5: to this part. You're at a party and then you
Speaker 5: remember the party. So it's basically like taking a ship
Speaker 5: with all with all your clothes off, with the door
Speaker 5: unlocked out a Lord Michael's party, and you're just like
Speaker 5: waiting for someone to walk in and see you totally.
Speaker 1: Because you feel so vulnerable at all times.
Speaker 5: Extremely Some people don't, I'm sure, but I definitely did.
Speaker 2: How could they not?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: I think anyone that says they don't is a total
Speaker 3: fucking liar because that's that show has been around since
Speaker 3: the seventies and like that. Yeah, it's a complete legacy
Speaker 3: in and of itself. So I think they're fronting if
Speaker 3: they're in any way trying to say I got this
Speaker 3: on day one, Like no.
Speaker 5: No, because it's unlike anything else. There's no other writer's
Speaker 5: room like it. There's no other like it's it's insane,
Speaker 5: there's nothing else like it.
Speaker 3: Well, and people watch it and pay so much attention
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, but it adds this element of pressure
Speaker 3: that like, you know, any staff writing job you've had
Speaker 3: before since has never Yeah, you're writing that show naked
Speaker 3: and shitting at the party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 6: And I one time I just auditioned for it in
Speaker 6: front of a green screen thing and I remember thinking
Speaker 6: I was I was very scared I would accidentally get it.
Speaker 1: I didn't want I didn't want to get it.
Speaker 6: I think that it was when Bill Hayter was the
Speaker 6: comic that got.
Speaker 1: It that year, and I was like relieved.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, also he does impressions and everything. But
Speaker 6: I remember him being after years of being on and
Speaker 6: he was always on screen, he was like in everything.
Speaker 1: I remember him conversationally saying.
Speaker 6: That he was scared every day, like it's just a
Speaker 6: high pressure, Like every week all that were I think
Speaker 6: about it all the time, having no connection to it,
Speaker 6: but every week having to put together all that for
Speaker 6: a live play basically would be so overwhelming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're every day you're kind of failing in
Speaker 5: big or small ways, from the beginning of the week
Speaker 5: to when you're trying to start, when you're trying to
Speaker 5: write with someone else, maybe they say sorry, I can't
Speaker 5: write with you, and you okay, And then maybe later
Speaker 5: in the week your your sketch doesn't get picked to
Speaker 5: go to read through you okay, or maybe maybe it
Speaker 5: does and it doesn't do very well and maybe eats
Speaker 5: a little bitish and nobody looks you in the eye
Speaker 5: for a little bit.
Speaker 6: You know, Sure, it sounds like after this, you'll be
Speaker 6: able to do anything.
Speaker 5: That's I kind of feel that way now, even in
Speaker 5: my short the short amount of time I've been there,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, okay, nothing could be harder than yes.
Speaker 3: Well, And also, I think there's part of what you're
Speaker 3: saying is you have to reinterpret what failure means, yeah,
Speaker 3: because that it actually doesn't work like that. And I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people go through life with this
Speaker 3: thing of like, I can't fail, you can't. I don't
Speaker 3: want to hear notes because I can't be wrong. Where
Speaker 3: it's like, no, even though it's difficult, No one's saying
Speaker 3: it's not difficult.
Speaker 2: No one's saying it's not humiliating.
Speaker 3: But if you can actually like figure out what you
Speaker 3: didn't do right to fix it for the next time.
Speaker 2: Because what I love about this is you've already told us,
Speaker 2: you already got picked up.
Speaker 3: So all those little failings and those things that you
Speaker 3: felt clearly didn't add up to them being like you
Speaker 3: don't get how to work here, you fucking figured it out.
Speaker 3: So you stayed in the moment of all those times.
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's going to be like just as much
Speaker 3: social bullshit as there is political bullshit or anything else,
Speaker 3: because that's how people like keep their power or give
Speaker 3: give a little away or whatever. So it's just like
Speaker 3: you basically surfed the big wave. I think that's really awesome.
Speaker 5: I Yeah, I'm pretty proud of myself, knowing myself and
Speaker 5: how I mean, how how hard it's just been to
Speaker 5: kind of get by in general, just like through my
Speaker 5: specific wonky little brain and the fact that I kind
Speaker 5: of got through it without fully breaking down. I'm pretty
Speaker 5: pretty stoked about. So now that I know how to
Speaker 5: accept this specific, these specific kinds of failures, it really
Speaker 5: makes it much easier.
Speaker 3: Because they're not they're not really failure.
Speaker 2: They're really not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a version of that that would stand up.
Speaker 6: Like I'm pretty hard myself with every show, but it's
Speaker 6: me telling myself. If someone else came up and said, hey,
Speaker 6: that joke doesn't work, don't tell it anymore, I would
Speaker 6: get so defensive. That's why I don't think I would
Speaker 6: ever thrive in an office. I've never really had a boss.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and if I did, I just ignore them
Speaker 6: and do what I wanted. So yeah, I can't it
Speaker 6: really what the job you have, really, it would be
Speaker 6: very exciting, I'm sure, but it would scare me as well.
Speaker 3: Also, there's those people that want to heart you know,
Speaker 3: there's all the Harvard Lampoon people, where there's some people
Speaker 3: who've been trained in this kind of like interactive politics
Speaker 3: and the kind of like the politics of the workplace
Speaker 3: and interpersonal stuff where they you know, I always think
Speaker 3: about that when I meet people who I can tell
Speaker 3: are really good at like keeping even keeping fair keeping,
Speaker 3: non reactive where it's like, was your father a fucking
Speaker 3: ambassador or something. I just had a hot headed fireman
Speaker 3: dad who yells to solve all problems, and it's like
Speaker 3: and that doesn't work fifty to ninety percent of the time,
Speaker 3: so then what do you do? And there are people
Speaker 3: who really came with like one thousand beautifully crafted tools
Speaker 3: for them to get through bullshit or use them against
Speaker 3: other people. And I'm always like ugh, ugh, yeah, people
Speaker 3: who are like high level in that regard.
Speaker 6: I didn't know when I moved to LA I didn't
Speaker 6: know there was such a thing as like comedy college,
Speaker 6: like you're Emerson sort of the Lampoon thing, and people
Speaker 6: that have those tools and confidence and it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: I thought you just did open mics like me, but
Speaker 6: you got straight a's in comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, you.
Speaker 5: Majored. And Eugene Nerman. Yeah, yeah, it's funny to say that.
Speaker 5: It's funny to say that, Karen, because rosebud Baker, who
Speaker 5: is it, also writer and a great stand up She
Speaker 5: started the same time I did, and she's really good
Speaker 5: at talking to authority figures and like people in charge.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, wow, you're so good at that. And
Speaker 5: she's like, my family's in the government, Like I know
Speaker 5: how to talk to politicians essentially. Like so I'm like, oh, yeah, totally, totally, totally,
Speaker 5: because whenever I see someone like in a suit, I'm like,
Speaker 5: fuck you, pig or whatever. So yeah, but I'm trying
Speaker 5: to have compassion for rich people and it's it's it's
Speaker 5: working out just fine.
Speaker 3: Can I just tell you, not that you need advice
Speaker 3: from me, but can I just tell you in my
Speaker 3: exact same thing where I had a friend tell me
Speaker 3: my front page who was like, we were working on
Speaker 3: a show that was super fucked up and like there
Speaker 3: was a lot of problems, and I was just constantly
Speaker 3: furious because my like the writing department couldn't get any
Speaker 3: other shit done because there was all these crazy things happening,
Speaker 3: and I went to her office six just use the EP
Speaker 3: to complain or whatever, and then she was like, God,
Speaker 3: you're so easy to manipulate. All you have to do
Speaker 3: is make you mad and then you're just like and
Speaker 3: then you're just gone for the day. And I was like, ooh,
Speaker 3: thank good, point, thank you, because it's that thing where
Speaker 3: it's like I'm making myself available to be manipulated if
Speaker 3: I am going to be that reactive, So like figuring
Speaker 3: out that way, And it's real hard because a lot
Speaker 3: of this is personality shit. But if you can figure
Speaker 3: out how to be step back and like be witness
Speaker 3: shit instead of actually being right there, like it's me
Speaker 3: and my whether or not I'm valued, you get to
Speaker 3: decide in this moment because we're in this hallway or whatever,
Speaker 3: and it's like, fuck that shit.
Speaker 2: You already got that.
Speaker 3: Job, Like, yeah, you have respect for your bosses or whatever,
Speaker 3: but you also don't have to like you don't have
Speaker 3: to keep getting the job.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always just stayed out of the hallways, those
Speaker 1: common areas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just stay out of the stay at.
Speaker 1: My station, try not to make eye contact.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all high school.
Speaker 1: It is, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Just stare at your locker, don't look around.
Speaker 6: But I didn't know everyone thought I was cool in
Speaker 6: high school until like twenty years later.
Speaker 1: So I need to remember that. And then they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I remembered.
Speaker 6: You know, I've already mentioned to Karen, But yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: junior year, I was home homecoming prince. It's not a
Speaker 6: big deep but I thought everyone hated me even after that.
Speaker 6: I know, I always bring that up, Karen. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: didn't know that came with things you had to do,
Speaker 6: like show up at a football game.
Speaker 1: Or a dance.
Speaker 6: I just thought you did it and you got to
Speaker 6: stay home. So I got in trouble. But anyway, I
Speaker 6: thought high school was horrifying. And then in retrospect, I'm like,
Speaker 6: why why did I?
Speaker 1: I think it's just my brain.
Speaker 6: Apparently it was supposed to be fun, and maybe jobs
Speaker 6: are supposed to be fun.
Speaker 1: I just need an attitude adjustment.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I like my bosses, and I like my job,
Speaker 5: and I like my I have my own office. It's
Speaker 5: just like a weird, just a life. I never really
Speaker 5: thought i'd be living.
Speaker 6: That's so cool. And then do you all meet and
Speaker 6: rift together. Is it fun to like.
Speaker 5: For the rift train secon? I mean, you know, and
Speaker 5: everyone's got their own style. It's just it's it's crazy
Speaker 5: because you, especially in like read throughs on Wednesdays, hear
Speaker 5: some of the funniest things ever written. And then a
Speaker 5: lot of those things don't get to the show, of course,
Speaker 5: but you're just like, wow, these really are like these
Speaker 5: people are really good at what they do. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: that's extremely validating to just be around those people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, as someone that I know doesn't force your personality
Speaker 6: on people.
Speaker 1: Which is why I like you do.
Speaker 6: You have to learn to like yell out your ideas, like,
Speaker 6: because I I think I'm too quiet. I had in
Speaker 6: those situations and I kept telling myself, just say if
Speaker 6: it's good, say it. But it's hard to know what's good,
Speaker 6: and so a lot of times I get shy.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Luckily I had been in writer's rooms before this job.
Speaker 5: I think if I hadn't, this would be a whole
Speaker 5: different story and I probably wouldn't have been picked up again.
Speaker 5: But I did have some writing experience before, and I
Speaker 5: wrote on Shrill for two seasons with eighty Bryant, and
Speaker 5: that's how I kind of, I guess I got the job.
Speaker 5: And before that I wrote on SpongeBob and yeah. So
Speaker 5: from those experiences, which were both very different shows obviously,
Speaker 5: like I don't know, I learned how to when to
Speaker 5: talk when I knew when my ideas were fully formed
Speaker 5: enough to say them yeah, and to like, you know,
Speaker 5: like it's all about. It helps to do stand up.
Speaker 5: Having done stand up too, to be in a writer's
Speaker 5: room because you know that you're timing, you know the
Speaker 5: beats of when to interject, and so I don't have
Speaker 5: a problem doing that luckily, and it's it's one of
Speaker 5: my more favorite it's one of my favorite things to do,
Speaker 5: I think in.
Speaker 6: The job, using your comedic ability like timing to deliver
Speaker 6: jokes in front of just a different version of an
Speaker 6: audience basically totally.
Speaker 5: And if I eat shit the rest of the week,
Speaker 5: I know that I've you know, at least made some
Speaker 5: people laugh or I you know, got some jokes in
Speaker 5: other people's sketches from punching them up.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that part sounds really fun. Actually, Okay, I'm
Speaker 6: no longer scared of your job.
Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's all that mattered.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I needed this therapeutically. Thank you both of you.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite part when you're not working, Like, what's
Speaker 3: your favorite thing to do? Or is there any place
Speaker 3: you've discovered in New York City that you didn't know
Speaker 3: about before, like that.
Speaker 5: Called Leicester Square, Trifolgar Square with the eminem stores. When
Speaker 5: I'm not working, I am mostly watching movies. My husband
Speaker 5: is an AMC stubs member, and he's daily saying, Hey,
Speaker 5: you want to go see Bullet Train or whatever?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sure, So kind of every day I'm eating a huge
Speaker 5: bucket of popcorn watching Bullet Train, and I don't know,
Speaker 5: I mean mostly just like walking around the city. And
Speaker 5: I for a while I had a podcast of my own,
Speaker 5: not to brag, but where I would when I first
Speaker 5: moved to New York. I'd go to different parks and
Speaker 5: just sit at like on a park bench and talk
Speaker 5: to myself and to my phone and talk about what
Speaker 5: I was seeing and all that. So I've gone to
Speaker 5: many parks in the city. I think my favorite is
Speaker 5: Tompkins Square Park.
Speaker 2: So pretty.
Speaker 5: It's so pretty. Every once in a while you see
Speaker 5: like Patti Smith kind of lugging a bag around or whatever.
Speaker 2: She lives right there. She just that's how she works out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a bunch of books she needs to read
Speaker 5: or whatever. And you know, that's it's kind of what
Speaker 5: I do. Just sit on a bench and with my
Speaker 5: I don't know, iced green tea and look around. Take
Speaker 5: it all.
Speaker 3: Now, Can I ask a quick New York question because
Speaker 3: I feel like I remember Tompkins Square Park?
Speaker 2: Do you need a key?
Speaker 3: Like there was a thing and I think my friend
Speaker 3: lived in that neighborhood where it's like only certain people
Speaker 3: have keys to the parks, only certain people can be
Speaker 3: actually inside. Am I think you have a different park?
Speaker 3: And also, oh, do they still do that?
Speaker 5: That's probably a different park, although maybe at some point
Speaker 5: it was like that because it's in a almost I
Speaker 5: guess almost Alphabet City or Lower East I just I
Speaker 5: don't remember the name of it. I don't know, but uh,
Speaker 5: actually never been there. Yeah no, but I've seen parks
Speaker 5: like that, but they're they're much smaller and almost like
Speaker 5: co co opy vibe where like everyone you can plant
Speaker 5: your own things in there and oh cool, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: They almost feel like they're left over from the Gilded
Speaker 3: Age where they were probably like all the horse carriages
Speaker 3: had to go around one direction, and that was just
Speaker 3: what was in the middle. They're that small, so it's like,
Speaker 3: I think that's what I'm thinking of, which, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, having your own key that I was always offended by.
Speaker 1: In Santa Monica.
Speaker 6: You couldn't do it at a dog park in Santa Monica,
Speaker 6: you couldn't bring your Venice dog. You had to like paperwork.
Speaker 6: And I had some chaperone there that was like, where
Speaker 6: do you live?
Speaker 1: Are you? Is that Santa Monica dog? Like they seriously.
Speaker 6: Enforced it was like, get me out of here, check
Speaker 6: her tags. Yeah, I'm going back to Venice yet up
Speaker 6: And he snobbed.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: I said, that's how you you walk that dog.
Speaker 3: Let that dog take a ship, Put that ship in
Speaker 3: a bag, walk back over, huck it over the fence over.
Speaker 2: The woman said, there you go. Hook is what you get?
Speaker 1: Hook it?
Speaker 2: Did you actually see bullet train?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I just couldn't get it because he asked me to
Speaker 5: go the other day and I said.
Speaker 2: No, he's absolutely not.
Speaker 5: I normally am. I'm all upit it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen ambulance amb.
Speaker 5: Lance?
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about it, but I met the
Speaker 4: gut the jake jillen Hole hosted snl OH working and
Speaker 4: he was really nice, nice long story short.
Speaker 3: Did you get to chat with him or do just
Speaker 3: like a hallway high five?
Speaker 5: Or I got to chat with him? You know, he
Speaker 5: come sits in my office and I go, what do
Speaker 5: you want to do? And he goes, I don't know, okay,
Speaker 5: But I asked him. He was talking about, you know,
Speaker 5: he was on this worldwide ambulance tour or whatever having
Speaker 5: to talk about this movie. And I was just like,
Speaker 5: how do you not fall asleep at any moment? Like
Speaker 5: how are you? How do you have energy? Especially going
Speaker 5: from like Japan to wherever to wherever? And his advice
Speaker 5: was like, don't start anything, don't start your day until
Speaker 5: like eleven am wherever you are, eleven am is a
Speaker 5: good hour to start doing stuff or like for your
Speaker 5: first engagement.
Speaker 2: With the world.
Speaker 5: And I was like, all right, m hm. Then I
Speaker 5: asked if be he takes any vitamins or anything like that.
Speaker 5: He's like, no, so does I take nol atone? In
Speaker 5: all right? They're just just like us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then he's like, okay, final, I'll be honest.
Speaker 3: Tons and tons of very high grade cocaine on private planes.
Speaker 2: That's how everybody knew it.
Speaker 6: I think Jill, I think he's great. When after the
Speaker 6: end of the week they did you guys hug.
Speaker 1: I'd like to hug him? You did Hu?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'd hugged Joan all.
Speaker 5: I'll tell him. I'll tell him. I said that.
Speaker 1: No, No, I just it's just something I blurted out.
Speaker 2: Hey, James signed an email.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll email this guy I know who I talked
Speaker 5: to about skateboarding once a year, says that he would.
Speaker 1: Like to hug you as a friend.
Speaker 6: Tell him as a friend, a friend, just a normal hugged.
Speaker 6: I hugged my friends, and I think that he and
Speaker 6: I be friends. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, the thing that I do, the thing that
Speaker 3: I do love, But this has kind of remind me
Speaker 3: of it, because I feel like your this job is
Speaker 3: like kind of opening you up to like celebrities as
Speaker 3: real people or as regular kind of regular people or
Speaker 3: people whoever's.
Speaker 2: In the hallway.
Speaker 3: But I always found New York City anytime I visited there.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things is just walking around and
Speaker 3: just like seeing what's going on. I always would spot
Speaker 3: celebrities that no one was paid looking at or paying
Speaker 3: attention to. And it's one of my favorite things about
Speaker 3: that city. It's so packed and people are so busy
Speaker 3: with their own shit that they just focus on what
Speaker 3: they need to get doing. They don't care that that
Speaker 3: person is standing right there. I love it so much.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that city is just so fucking cool.
Speaker 6: And I've I've always felt like just walking around watching
Speaker 6: people rush to wherever they're going. I was confronted by
Speaker 6: how lazy I am here in La I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: these everyone is getting shit done here. Maybe I should
Speaker 6: move here for a little while, just so it lights
Speaker 6: a fire under my ASSA. Yeah, a work ethic of
Speaker 6: some kind.
Speaker 5: That's how I feel. It definitely propels you forward no
Speaker 5: matter what, and I let like, I think the New
Speaker 5: York streets and like the subway system are kind of
Speaker 5: the great equalizer where everyone has to walk on the
Speaker 5: same New York street, everyone has to take the same
Speaker 5: trains unless they're you know, uber rich and can take
Speaker 5: helicopters or whatever to Manhasset. But I don't know, like
Speaker 5: it's really interesting to me, and it's it's nice that
Speaker 5: you can't you can't ignore each other at all when
Speaker 5: right everyone's like, you know, in their own lane and
Speaker 5: kind of doing their own thing, but you can't ignore
Speaker 5: like the humanity around you.
Speaker 6: Right Yeah, and pretty much everyone takes the subway right
Speaker 6: like it's not Yeah, I think so. For some reason,
Speaker 6: I felt like it was complicated and I didn't know.
Speaker 6: I was asking to make questions before I went down there.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't even and the turnstiles should I
Speaker 6: be with? How did they work? It just took me
Speaker 6: a while to figure it out. But after a few
Speaker 6: days I was like, I totally live here, and yeah,
Speaker 6: everyone does it. Everyone's on it. They rely doesn't have
Speaker 6: something like that.
Speaker 3: It can be public, super yeah, it can be super
Speaker 3: intimidating also because the people that are on it and
Speaker 3: using it, like use it every day.
Speaker 2: It's their commute. I saw a girl get stuck in.
Speaker 3: The inside turnstyle, so the one that's like full body
Speaker 3: top to bottom cage. She had she had her bags
Speaker 3: with her, and she clearly was from not from New
Speaker 3: York City, and so she had like three shopping bags
Speaker 3: that she had tried to shove in to the little
Speaker 3: cage with her and it stopped turning and people were
Speaker 3: just pressing from the other side, and she was just standing.
Speaker 2: At it, going stop it. Everybody's sad.
Speaker 3: And it's literally like five o'clock commute traffic. I like,
Speaker 3: I didn't even have time to really oggle her enough
Speaker 3: to be like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen,
Speaker 3: because I had to keep going. But it was like
Speaker 3: that poor girl, and that could have been me like
Speaker 3: three months ago. It really does like if you have
Speaker 3: to know, you can't be you can't be messing around
Speaker 3: in a thing like that and fuck it up and
Speaker 3: be the one that stopped.
Speaker 6: It's in the cage where it's like all those bar
Speaker 6: like a cheese slicer.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh yeah, with the paint.
Speaker 3: In my memory it was painted green, but that could
Speaker 3: that could be wrong.
Speaker 2: That could be wrong.
Speaker 3: But it's so intense, like she fucked up, and then
Speaker 3: all of commuting New York City foot traffic was like,
Speaker 3: we're going to smash you in this thing, like they
Speaker 3: just wanted to keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1: That's why I get nervous.
Speaker 6: Before I went down to the subway, I thought I
Speaker 6: was going to fuck up, and there all the New
Speaker 6: York people would be like, ha, ha, he doesn't live here.
Speaker 5: I mean I still feel that way when I'm like
Speaker 5: ordering a sandwich at a deli, where I'm like I
Speaker 5: have to know exactly what I want and I have
Speaker 5: to say it fast or else. Yeah, they're just gonna
Speaker 5: be like yeah, whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything there. What's the protocol here? Can I pet
Speaker 6: your bodega cat?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm new here?
Speaker 2: Is this cool?
Speaker 3: Or I went into a corner store one morning. That's
Speaker 3: one of my favorite New York memories because I only
Speaker 3: lived there for like a year for a similar as
Speaker 3: like an SNL job. It was the second season of
Speaker 3: the Mariadraf anyway, So I left my apartment one morning
Speaker 3: and went down to the padega and there's a very
Speaker 3: solid chance I was baked out of my mind. And
Speaker 3: when I walked in, there was a little old lady
Speaker 3: and she was kind of talking to the guy behind
Speaker 3: the counter, and I was like, just don't even pay attention.
Speaker 2: You're going to be upset, because then I.
Speaker 3: Was like, Oh, this ninety old year old lady lives
Speaker 3: in New York City, like in Hell's kitchen, Like what
Speaker 3: is she doing?
Speaker 2: How come she's by herself? Does she need help?
Speaker 3: I can't get involved, like all these kind of city
Speaker 3: fear ideas going through my head. I pick up like
Speaker 3: three things, I go to buy them, and then she
Speaker 3: turns to look at They're just having a conversation like
Speaker 3: they know each other, her and the guy ringing her up.
Speaker 3: And then I'm just standing there like wondering if I'm
Speaker 3: going to have to help this lady.
Speaker 2: And she turns and goes, are you okay, honey? It's
Speaker 2: like I'm good.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, you can go ahead, and like that's
Speaker 3: something I guess they did every Sunday morning or something.
Speaker 2: And I was like I was interpreting the.
Speaker 3: Entire thing, like the big city's going to eat this
Speaker 3: old lady. And it's like that lady's probably live there
Speaker 3: for fucking seventy years, and I'm the one.
Speaker 2: I'm just projecting all my own shit.
Speaker 1: Onder her, can I help you with your bags?
Speaker 6: And then she pushes you out of the way from
Speaker 6: an oncoming bus environment carries you across the street, gently
Speaker 6: leaving you in a bush.
Speaker 5: I do wonder what it'd be like to live here
Speaker 5: as an old, old person, And it must be really
Speaker 5: hard unless you're like, you know, it's all you know.
Speaker 5: And then it's it's fine, but yeah, it's hard on
Speaker 5: the body.
Speaker 2: Hard on the body. It's like a lot of vitamins, not.
Speaker 6: A lot of retirement speed. There no no even at
Speaker 6: my age. Now, that's why I brought up the pigeons.
Speaker 6: I think I would be that guy on the bench, That's.
Speaker 3: What because truly it's like walking down the street. You
Speaker 3: got to keep that pace and that's not leisurely paced
Speaker 3: just if you're just walking up the street normally, and
Speaker 3: then you are also touching like probably three people on average,
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder, Like the crowdedness, the pace, and then
Speaker 3: just the kind of speed of everything is so it's
Speaker 3: so different, and it's so like, yeah, I have to
Speaker 3: literally remember like take a multi vitamin. You're gonna be
Speaker 3: touching parts of the subway. There's things you can't control,
Speaker 3: like you have to brace yourself for it in a way.
Speaker 3: That just that's why it makes sense that everybody thinks
Speaker 3: California people are like laid back, and it's like no,
Speaker 3: we just we don't walk as fast as humanly possible
Speaker 3: up the street and you don't have to either.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's like all those scenes like in twitsy or
Speaker 6: something where they just are shooting and no one even
Speaker 6: knows they're on camera.
Speaker 1: And people are walking.
Speaker 6: They're literally touching shoulders on each side with strangers just
Speaker 6: accidentally shoulder groping everyone.
Speaker 1: I could not. I did get it's electrifying, it's fun,
Speaker 1: but I'm.
Speaker 6: Just not used to it. Yeah, I gotta do it.
Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta move there. That's why I said, sorry,
Speaker 6: I keep making this about me.
Speaker 1: I would love it. I'm jealous that you get to
Speaker 1: live there so you can.
Speaker 5: Only you can check it out.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe yeh'll visit things.
Speaker 5: Things are bad all over, you know, you might as
Speaker 5: well just try and sizes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd love to just rate on scales of badness
Speaker 6: every city.
Speaker 1: Do you have you been doing stand up there? Do
Speaker 1: you find you don't have as much time late lately?
Speaker 5: Not as much. But I'll try to do it when
Speaker 5: I can. I do when people ask me to do it.
Speaker 1: I found that audience is there.
Speaker 6: Like the jokes that I was most precious about or
Speaker 6: proud about that maybe didn't always work here. Nothing against
Speaker 6: Los Angeles, but I found the audiences there were listening
Speaker 6: a little more. Do you find that to be the case.
Speaker 5: I could see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think because going out is a little more
Speaker 5: of a thing here too, because it takes you know,
Speaker 5: you have to go out, take the train, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Everything's very intentional, So I think people kind of do
Speaker 5: listen a little better here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm at comedy on purpose.
Speaker 6: It wasn't y yeah shoved into my face because I yeah,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people. You can't surprise people with comedy.
Speaker 6: I think that happens much here York. It seems like, oh,
Speaker 6: this audience is here because they knew that there was
Speaker 6: comedy that's crashing.
Speaker 3: Not like the Bigfoot Lodge where literally there's like streaming
Speaker 3: matches between the comedy crowd and the bar or shishing
Speaker 3: and countershishing were Like I stood in the back of
Speaker 3: that room one time, and I was like, the tension
Speaker 3: in here is palpable just for people to do shitty
Speaker 3: eight minutes sets like what is happening?
Speaker 1: Counter that is a very crazy it was.
Speaker 3: And also it's like there's no it was not a
Speaker 3: separate room. It's just like just that one corner. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people just because there's a little raised area in
Speaker 5: a corner doesn't mean people are gonna automatically pay attention
Speaker 5: to that corner, but.
Speaker 3: Especially if they're drinking there, if they're drinking fancy drinks,
Speaker 3: then it's just like the volume is off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel for audience, or I feel for people
Speaker 5: who get the ambush I do. Yeah, I wouldn't want
Speaker 5: to do someone want that to happen to me.
Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of rules, but I do
Speaker 6: want whenever I'm doing a show, I don't want it
Speaker 6: to be in a surprise to the people in attendance.
Speaker 1: Now, that's my main goal in life, not to surprise people.
Speaker 3: Any kind of live performance. Yeah, when it's within like
Speaker 3: five or ten feet of you, has it has an
Speaker 3: intensity because then you if you're like me, for example,
Speaker 3: like if somebody suddenly just walked up and like plugged
Speaker 3: in an acoustic guitar and started doing covers, then I
Speaker 3: would have to look away, which is a choice you're
Speaker 3: making too kind of not Like as a person that's
Speaker 3: done surprise comedy shows before, I know when there's you
Speaker 3: can tell when people are loving it and try to
Speaker 3: be supportive with their like face or when people are
Speaker 3: like this for some reason, I feel vulnerable and humiliated now,
Speaker 3: so I have to look away and there, and then
Speaker 3: it's so uncomfortable when you're a held hostage to art.
Speaker 6: It's just it's no, look at my paintings. They're just
Speaker 6: hanging them around you. No, no, here's free wine. What
Speaker 6: do you think of my paintings?
Speaker 1: I'm eating pizza.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting to think about because the worst version
Speaker 6: is where you're someone and then someone's just starts singing.
Speaker 1: Dennis Joplin, Oh no, that's karaoke night.
Speaker 6: But I enjoyed karaoke if I'm prepared for it, if
Speaker 6: I know it's happening, I like to sing it.
Speaker 2: I like to watch, which means which means if you're drunk.
Speaker 1: No, I promise I've been going.
Speaker 2: Not you personally, just one.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: To enjoy enjoying karaoke is being shipped.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah yeah yeah. And what else are you going
Speaker 6: to do when you wait for your song? I guess
Speaker 6: it is a it's an occupial occupational hazard. Would be
Speaker 6: in a karaoke junkie like me. That's why I love
Speaker 6: the model so much.
Speaker 1: I'm actually singing with a band in three weeks.
Speaker 6: We're doing a bunch of punk rock songs and I
Speaker 6: have to learn them and rehearse.
Speaker 1: It's at a skate park.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just songs that were famous from skate videos.
Speaker 6: Oh shit, so I know a lot of them. But
Speaker 6: you know, Karen, I'm not a singer, but I can
Speaker 6: sing like that. I can mimic a voice, I think
Speaker 6: for but I am. I'm already very nervous for it.
Speaker 6: And maybe it'll be a situation where people don't know
Speaker 6: there's going to be a band. I don't know. I
Speaker 6: think it's outdoors. It's not a big deal, but I'm
Speaker 6: very excited and nervous.
Speaker 5: Part of an event, or it is.
Speaker 6: Part of an event, Okay, and the three guys I'm
Speaker 6: doing with it, yeah, they will know. Yeah, and the
Speaker 6: guys that I'm doing it with are all musicians. But
Speaker 6: I've never sung in a band. I'm just getting it's
Speaker 6: taking it off. But I'm already nervous for it. To
Speaker 6: get drunk, I might have to, Karen, I think I will, yeah,
Speaker 6: because or take some sort of an add pill.
Speaker 3: I think that, well, but if you're just slightly but sorry,
Speaker 3: not get drunk, but get a little buzz so that
Speaker 3: the thing most things don't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that moment before.
Speaker 6: I just start tearing into a very fast descendent song.
Speaker 6: I probably should have a little alcohol, just ease it up. Yeah,
Speaker 6: doctor's orders. I like your bit, uh, Claire about going
Speaker 6: to planned parenthood to seem smart because you because I
Speaker 6: I do that. I go whenever I'm at the doctor,
Speaker 6: I want to. I don't know why I do it.
Speaker 6: I try and impress them with my terminology, using the
Speaker 6: right terms, and it never works, and they always look
Speaker 6: at me like they're offended. But your version, in your version,
Speaker 6: they're just like, wow, did you go to medical school?
Speaker 1: I really like that bit.
Speaker 5: Well, I've started, uh. I've found myself also in therapy,
Speaker 5: like talking about things I've read in a book about
Speaker 5: psych collogy and I'm like, yes, I heard that about
Speaker 5: attachment theory or whatever, and the therapist is like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've gotten more of the eye roll version, even
Speaker 6: when I've been right, like I was explaining I had
Speaker 6: strep throat and now my joint's hurt, and he's like, well,
Speaker 6: that doesn't let me look in this book.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a book that had the doctor's name on it.
Speaker 6: Well, he's like, oh yeah, I guess there is a
Speaker 6: streptococcle react of arthritis.
Speaker 1: So that must be what you have.
Speaker 6: And I'm like a little bit of credit here for
Speaker 6: the saying that I didn't get any credit.
Speaker 1: I just got the arthritis.
Speaker 3: But Claire, is there anything else you'd like to like
Speaker 3: talk about her? Plug before we wrap it up?
Speaker 5: Ooh baby, when does this come out?
Speaker 2: I think it's like a month?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, well, yeah, I guess I got nothing to plug.
Speaker 5: I'll watch a Saturday Night Live on Saturdays, hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 5: I'll get.
Speaker 1: To hear my words from New York. It's from New
Speaker 1: York Live from Saturday Night. It's New York.
Speaker 5: Dg I. It's living, It's living.
Speaker 1: It's very long titled.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, if there's anything you know, just
Speaker 5: be good to one another.
Speaker 3: Your name your comedy album, Let it Be. That's really
Speaker 3: one of my favorite comedy album titles I've heard in
Speaker 3: a long time. Do you want to Claire's stand up?
Speaker 3: Look up her comedy album let it Be?
Speaker 5: But just basically stealing the Replacements joke of them naming
Speaker 5: their album let it Be.
Speaker 1: So I they yeah, oh that makes it even better.
Speaker 5: I told someone that recently and they went, oh cute
Speaker 5: in a condescending way, and I was like, okay, so
Speaker 5: I've got this album, let it be and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of just farting around doing doing my thing,
Speaker 5: as they say, and I'm happy to be here. It's
Speaker 5: nice to see you guys. Yeah, looking spry.
Speaker 2: It's been so long.
Speaker 5: And so now I go to New York.
Speaker 6: I'll bring aboard with larger, softer wheels to deal with
Speaker 6: the rough stones, stone like roads, and we will roll around.
Speaker 6: You can show me the the mean streets. I'm seven,
Speaker 6: but that, yeah, that's one of the things that excite
Speaker 6: me the most about about that city.
Speaker 1: So take me skateboarding in New York, please.
Speaker 5: I will. Oh you know, do you know, uh remember
Speaker 5: Kenny Hughes. Sure, New York of course my husband. Recently
Speaker 5: we worked as a mover and he's like this guy
Speaker 5: I work with. He used to be a pro skater.
Speaker 5: Didn't skate anymore though, Like what's his name is Kenny
Speaker 5: Hughes and like New York legend. Yeah, moving people's furniture.
Speaker 5: It's rough.
Speaker 6: That he did a demo in Missoula that uh so
Speaker 6: I saw him skating. He's a big skate most skaters
Speaker 6: are five nine. That's why I did it. Little feet
Speaker 6: you're five nine, you should skateboard. He's like a big, big,
Speaker 6: strong muscle kid. It's like, oh, you're two feet taller
Speaker 6: than everyone else here, so I'm not surprised he's moving ship. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's a strong, strong boy, that Kenny.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Sorry to kind of go on the track of
Speaker 5: the ending, but I had to bring that's really I wrap.
Speaker 3: It up with one very special thought. Is strong enough
Speaker 3: to be a mover, and we are all strong enough
Speaker 3: to be movers and work for moving.
Speaker 5: That's the That's what's up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, find your inner strength. Thank you for that closing message.
Speaker 2: Really nice there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good to see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good to see you too.
Speaker 1: You've been listening to Do You Need a Ride? T
Speaker 1: y n Are. This has been an exactly Right.
Speaker 2: Production produced by Analise Nelson.
Speaker 1: Mixed by John Bradley.
Speaker 2: Our talent booker is Patrick Cotner.
Speaker 1: Theme song by Karen Kogeric.
Speaker 2: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
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Speaker 6: For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh you're welcome.
Speaker 1: I made you yell and I just said it