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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you.

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Speaker 1: Tell us all about it. We scared her?

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Speaker 2: Was it fine?

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Speaker 3: Melborn?

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Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do your need you ride? Ride you with Karen and Chris?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Do you need a ride? This is Chris.

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Speaker 3: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgaraff. Hello, Karen, Hi Chris.

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Speaker 3: How's it going.

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Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm back. I'm back in town.

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Speaker 6: I've been I've been gone for a month and a

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Speaker 2: Welcome to.

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Speaker 3: Straight up one hundred and ten degree la. Yeah, free

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Speaker 3: some This is not our usual summer usually gets hot

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Speaker 6: Alps, tundras are being disturbed you're.

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Speaker 2: Not supposed to are being released.

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Speaker 6: A lot of algae is no longer. Many breeds of

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Speaker 2: Being hunted like they're on Yellowstone.

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Speaker 1: Because they kill deer, and deer.

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Speaker 6: They deserve it. One also, deer are for humans to shoot.

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Speaker 6: That's what The governor of Montana, a guy that got

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Speaker 1: I like this guy's jib, and he made it.

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Speaker 6: He wants people to be able to kill wolves.

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Speaker 2: Was one of the people killing them.

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Speaker 1: My thing, Oh sure, sure.

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Speaker 6: He seems like a Safari guy, someone that has a

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a elephant foot as a stool. I've seen those.

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Speaker 3: You just hit it on the umbrella, umbrella hold her

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the biggest, most beautiful mammal to dies tell

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Speaker 6: you can store your umbrellas in style.

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Speaker 3: Look, guys, audience, we need to let you know we've

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Speaker 3: listed off so many negative things just right at the top,

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Speaker 3: to counter all those negative vibes with these incredibly positive.

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Speaker 6: And normally we inform our guests before we record that

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Speaker 6: we will bring them into the conversation. Claire's a professional,

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Speaker 3: Yes, No, she gets contact clues. She understands the back

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Speaker 2: She plays clubs and colleges, so many colleges.

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Speaker 1: Currently a writer on Saturday Night, Live from New York,

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Speaker 1: Live from New York, Everyone, Lenda here, now, won't you

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Speaker 1: to our guest today, Claire?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Claire, I'm clear, came from Live from New York.

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Speaker 6: It's Comma, It's Saturday Night. That's the they still that's

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and you are you still working on that show?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I just got picked up for another hot season.

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Speaker 2: That's great relations Thank you, that's great news.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think she's having fun. She bought a

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Speaker 3: Wait, Claire, can you just tell give us a New

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Speaker 1: Bit of a New York Minute with Claire Okaine and Okay.

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Speaker 5: We're walking out of the door of my uh three

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Speaker 5: Originally, I'm from San Jose, California.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I'm used to dry heat, dry valley heat.

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Speaker 6: I've just skated in San Jose before? Yeah, Jose Rojo,

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Speaker 5: Yeah I can as well, a lot of useless knowledge

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how can you not be a part of that?

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Speaker 6: I walk right towards candy colors no matter what it is,

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Speaker 5: Yes, I moved to the day that Trump was inaugurated,

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Speaker 6: Him trying to get his closest around in front of

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Speaker 1: Good job, mister, I loved you and home alone too.

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Speaker 5: Let me shake your answer.

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Speaker 5: I feel like he doesn't really shake. He probably pinches

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Speaker 1: I watched the mashup.

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Speaker 6: And I hope you got that opportunity.

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Speaker 5: One day, one of these days.

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Speaker 1: One day, one day.

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Speaker 3: Have I ever told on this podcast told my Trump story?

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Speaker 6: Boy, I'll stop you interrupt you of course I'll do

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Speaker 3: It literally is like nineteen eighty one, and he walks

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to write his golden Wonka Vader?

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Speaker 1: Because you feel so vulnerable at all times.

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Speaker 3: I think anyone that says they don't is a total

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Speaker 5: to when you're trying to start, when you're trying to

450
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 5: write with someone else, maybe they say sorry, I can't

451
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 5: write with you, and you okay, And then maybe later

452
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: in the week your your sketch doesn't get picked to

453
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 5: go to read through you okay, or maybe maybe it

454
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 5: does and it doesn't do very well and maybe eats

455
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 5: a little bitish and nobody looks you in the eye

456
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: for a little bit.

457
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 6: You know, Sure, it sounds like after this, you'll be

458
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 6: able to do anything.

459
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 5: That's I kind of feel that way now, even in

460
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 5: my short the short amount of time I've been there,

461
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, okay, nothing could be harder than yes.

462
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: Well, And also, I think there's part of what you're

463
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: saying is you have to reinterpret what failure means, yeah,

464
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: because that it actually doesn't work like that. And I

465
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: think a lot of people go through life with this

466
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: thing of like, I can't fail, you can't. I don't

467
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: want to hear notes because I can't be wrong. Where

468
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: it's like, no, even though it's difficult, No one's saying

469
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: it's not difficult.

470
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: No one's saying it's not humiliating.

471
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: But if you can actually like figure out what you

472
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: didn't do right to fix it for the next time.

473
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: Because what I love about this is you've already told us,

474
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: you already got picked up.

475
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: So all those little failings and those things that you

476
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: felt clearly didn't add up to them being like you

477
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: don't get how to work here, you fucking figured it out.

478
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: So you stayed in the moment of all those times.

479
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's going to be like just as much

480
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: social bullshit as there is political bullshit or anything else,

481
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: because that's how people like keep their power or give

482
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: give a little away or whatever. So it's just like

483
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: you basically surfed the big wave. I think that's really awesome.

484
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: I Yeah, I'm pretty proud of myself, knowing myself and

485
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 5: how I mean, how how hard it's just been to

486
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: kind of get by in general, just like through my

487
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: specific wonky little brain and the fact that I kind

488
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: of got through it without fully breaking down. I'm pretty

489
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 5: pretty stoked about. So now that I know how to

490
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: accept this specific, these specific kinds of failures, it really

491
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 5: makes it much easier.

492
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: Because they're not they're not really failure.

493
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: They're really not.

494
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a version of that that would stand up.

495
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 6: Like I'm pretty hard myself with every show, but it's

496
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 6: me telling myself. If someone else came up and said, hey,

497
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 6: that joke doesn't work, don't tell it anymore, I would

498
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 6: get so defensive. That's why I don't think I would

499
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 6: ever thrive in an office. I've never really had a boss.

500
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and if I did, I just ignore them

501
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 6: and do what I wanted. So yeah, I can't it

502
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 6: really what the job you have, really, it would be

503
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 6: very exciting, I'm sure, but it would scare me as well.

504
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: Also, there's those people that want to heart you know,

505
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: there's all the Harvard Lampoon people, where there's some people

506
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: who've been trained in this kind of like interactive politics

507
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: and the kind of like the politics of the workplace

508
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: and interpersonal stuff where they you know, I always think

509
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: about that when I meet people who I can tell

510
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: are really good at like keeping even keeping fair keeping,

511
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 3: non reactive where it's like, was your father a fucking

512
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: ambassador or something. I just had a hot headed fireman

513
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 3: dad who yells to solve all problems, and it's like

514
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: and that doesn't work fifty to ninety percent of the time,

515
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: so then what do you do? And there are people

516
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: who really came with like one thousand beautifully crafted tools

517
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: for them to get through bullshit or use them against

518
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: other people. And I'm always like ugh, ugh, yeah, people

519
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: who are like high level in that regard.

520
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 6: I didn't know when I moved to LA I didn't

521
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 6: know there was such a thing as like comedy college,

522
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 6: like you're Emerson sort of the Lampoon thing, and people

523
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 6: that have those tools and confidence and it's like, oh,

524
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 6: I thought you just did open mics like me, but

525
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 6: you got straight a's in comedy.

526
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, you.

527
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 5: Majored. And Eugene Nerman. Yeah, yeah, it's funny to say that.

528
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 5: It's funny to say that, Karen, because rosebud Baker, who

529
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 5: is it, also writer and a great stand up She

530
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: started the same time I did, and she's really good

531
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 5: at talking to authority figures and like people in charge.

532
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: And I'm like, wow, you're so good at that. And

533
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: she's like, my family's in the government, Like I know

534
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: how to talk to politicians essentially. Like so I'm like, oh, yeah, totally, totally, totally,

535
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: because whenever I see someone like in a suit, I'm like,

536
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 5: fuck you, pig or whatever. So yeah, but I'm trying

537
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: to have compassion for rich people and it's it's it's

538
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 5: working out just fine.

539
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: Can I just tell you, not that you need advice

540
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: from me, but can I just tell you in my

541
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: exact same thing where I had a friend tell me

542
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: my front page who was like, we were working on

543
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: a show that was super fucked up and like there

544
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: was a lot of problems, and I was just constantly

545
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: furious because my like the writing department couldn't get any

546
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: other shit done because there was all these crazy things happening,

547
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: and I went to her office six just use the EP

548
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: to complain or whatever, and then she was like, God,

549
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 3: you're so easy to manipulate. All you have to do

550
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: is make you mad and then you're just like and

551
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: then you're just gone for the day. And I was like, ooh,

552
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: thank good, point, thank you, because it's that thing where

553
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: it's like I'm making myself available to be manipulated if

554
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: I am going to be that reactive, So like figuring

555
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: out that way, And it's real hard because a lot

556
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: of this is personality shit. But if you can figure

557
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: out how to be step back and like be witness

558
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: shit instead of actually being right there, like it's me

559
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: and my whether or not I'm valued, you get to

560
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: decide in this moment because we're in this hallway or whatever,

561
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: and it's like, fuck that shit.

562
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: You already got that.

563
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: Job, Like, yeah, you have respect for your bosses or whatever,

564
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: but you also don't have to like you don't have

565
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: to keep getting the job.

566
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always just stayed out of the hallways, those

567
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: common areas.

568
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, just stay out of the stay at.

569
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: My station, try not to make eye contact.

570
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all high school.

571
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: It is, isn't it.

572
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: Just stare at your locker, don't look around.

573
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 6: But I didn't know everyone thought I was cool in

574
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: high school until like twenty years later.

575
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: So I need to remember that. And then they're like, yeah,

576
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: and I remembered.

577
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 6: You know, I've already mentioned to Karen, But yeah, okay,

578
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 6: junior year, I was home homecoming prince. It's not a

579
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 6: big deep but I thought everyone hated me even after that.

580
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 6: I know, I always bring that up, Karen. Yeah, I

581
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 6: didn't know that came with things you had to do,

582
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: like show up at a football game.

583
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: Or a dance.

584
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: I just thought you did it and you got to

585
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 6: stay home. So I got in trouble. But anyway, I

586
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 6: thought high school was horrifying. And then in retrospect, I'm like,

587
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 6: why why did I?

588
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I think it's just my brain.

589
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 6: Apparently it was supposed to be fun, and maybe jobs

590
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: are supposed to be fun.

591
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: I just need an attitude adjustment.

592
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. I like my bosses, and I like my job,

593
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: and I like my I have my own office. It's

594
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: just like a weird, just a life. I never really

595
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: thought i'd be living.

596
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 6: That's so cool. And then do you all meet and

597
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 6: rift together. Is it fun to like.

598
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: For the rift train secon? I mean, you know, and

599
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: everyone's got their own style. It's just it's it's crazy

600
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: because you, especially in like read throughs on Wednesdays, hear

601
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: some of the funniest things ever written. And then a

602
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: lot of those things don't get to the show, of course,

603
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: but you're just like, wow, these really are like these

604
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: people are really good at what they do. Yeah, and

605
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: that's extremely validating to just be around those people.

606
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, as someone that I know doesn't force your personality

607
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 6: on people.

608
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Which is why I like you do.

609
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 6: You have to learn to like yell out your ideas, like,

610
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 6: because I I think I'm too quiet. I had in

611
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 6: those situations and I kept telling myself, just say if

612
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 6: it's good, say it. But it's hard to know what's good,

613
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 6: and so a lot of times I get shy.

614
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. Luckily I had been in writer's rooms before this job.

615
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: I think if I hadn't, this would be a whole

616
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: different story and I probably wouldn't have been picked up again.

617
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: But I did have some writing experience before, and I

618
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: wrote on Shrill for two seasons with eighty Bryant, and

619
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: that's how I kind of, I guess I got the job.

620
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: And before that I wrote on SpongeBob and yeah. So

621
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 5: from those experiences, which were both very different shows obviously,

622
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 5: like I don't know, I learned how to when to

623
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: talk when I knew when my ideas were fully formed

624
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: enough to say them yeah, and to like, you know,

625
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: like it's all about. It helps to do stand up.

626
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: Having done stand up too, to be in a writer's

627
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 5: room because you know that you're timing, you know the

628
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 5: beats of when to interject, and so I don't have

629
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: a problem doing that luckily, and it's it's one of

630
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 5: my more favorite it's one of my favorite things to do,

631
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: I think in.

632
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 6: The job, using your comedic ability like timing to deliver

633
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: jokes in front of just a different version of an

634
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 6: audience basically totally.

635
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 5: And if I eat shit the rest of the week,

636
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 5: I know that I've you know, at least made some

637
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 5: people laugh or I you know, got some jokes in

638
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: other people's sketches from punching them up.

639
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 6: So yeah, that part sounds really fun. Actually, Okay, I'm

640
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 6: no longer scared of your job.

641
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's all that mattered.

642
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I needed this therapeutically. Thank you both of you.

643
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: What's your favorite part when you're not working, Like, what's

644
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: your favorite thing to do? Or is there any place

645
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: you've discovered in New York City that you didn't know

646
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: about before, like that.

647
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: Called Leicester Square, Trifolgar Square with the eminem stores. When

648
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: I'm not working, I am mostly watching movies. My husband

649
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 5: is an AMC stubs member, and he's daily saying, Hey,

650
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 5: you want to go see Bullet Train or whatever?

651
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

652
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 5: Sure, So kind of every day I'm eating a huge

653
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 5: bucket of popcorn watching Bullet Train, and I don't know,

654
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: I mean mostly just like walking around the city. And

655
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 5: I for a while I had a podcast of my own,

656
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 5: not to brag, but where I would when I first

657
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 5: moved to New York. I'd go to different parks and

658
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 5: just sit at like on a park bench and talk

659
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: to myself and to my phone and talk about what

660
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 5: I was seeing and all that. So I've gone to

661
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 5: many parks in the city. I think my favorite is

662
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: Tompkins Square Park.

663
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: So pretty.

664
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 5: It's so pretty. Every once in a while you see

665
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 5: like Patti Smith kind of lugging a bag around or whatever.

666
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: She lives right there. She just that's how she works out.

667
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a bunch of books she needs to read

668
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 5: or whatever. And you know, that's it's kind of what

669
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: I do. Just sit on a bench and with my

670
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: I don't know, iced green tea and look around. Take

671
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 5: it all.

672
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: Now, Can I ask a quick New York question because

673
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: I feel like I remember Tompkins Square Park?

674
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: Do you need a key?

675
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 3: Like there was a thing and I think my friend

676
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 3: lived in that neighborhood where it's like only certain people

677
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: have keys to the parks, only certain people can be

678
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: actually inside. Am I think you have a different park?

679
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: And also, oh, do they still do that?

680
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 5: That's probably a different park, although maybe at some point

681
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: it was like that because it's in a almost I

682
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: guess almost Alphabet City or Lower East I just I

683
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 5: don't remember the name of it. I don't know, but uh,

684
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 5: actually never been there. Yeah no, but I've seen parks

685
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: like that, but they're they're much smaller and almost like

686
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 5: co co opy vibe where like everyone you can plant

687
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 5: your own things in there and oh cool, right, Yeah.

688
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: They almost feel like they're left over from the Gilded

689
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: Age where they were probably like all the horse carriages

690
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: had to go around one direction, and that was just

691
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: what was in the middle. They're that small, so it's like,

692
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: I think that's what I'm thinking of, which, yeah.

693
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, having your own key that I was always offended by.

694
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: In Santa Monica.

695
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 6: You couldn't do it at a dog park in Santa Monica,

696
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 6: you couldn't bring your Venice dog. You had to like paperwork.

697
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 6: And I had some chaperone there that was like, where

698
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 6: do you live?

699
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Are you? Is that Santa Monica dog? Like they seriously.

700
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 6: Enforced it was like, get me out of here, check

701
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 6: her tags. Yeah, I'm going back to Venice yet up

702
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 6: And he snobbed.

703
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: That's why.

704
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: I said, that's how you you walk that dog.

705
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: Let that dog take a ship, Put that ship in

706
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 3: a bag, walk back over, huck it over the fence over.

707
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: The woman said, there you go. Hook is what you get?

708
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: Hook it?

709
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: Did you actually see bullet train?

710
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: No?

711
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: I didn't.

712
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: I just couldn't get it because he asked me to

713
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: go the other day and I said.

714
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: No, he's absolutely not.

715
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: I normally am. I'm all upit it.

716
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen ambulance amb.

717
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: Lance?

718
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about it, but I met the

719
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: gut the jake jillen Hole hosted snl OH working and

720
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: he was really nice, nice long story short.

721
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: Did you get to chat with him or do just

722
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: like a hallway high five?

723
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: Or I got to chat with him? You know, he

724
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: come sits in my office and I go, what do

725
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 5: you want to do? And he goes, I don't know, okay,

726
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: But I asked him. He was talking about, you know,

727
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: he was on this worldwide ambulance tour or whatever having

728
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 5: to talk about this movie. And I was just like,

729
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: how do you not fall asleep at any moment? Like

730
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 5: how are you? How do you have energy? Especially going

731
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 5: from like Japan to wherever to wherever? And his advice

732
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: was like, don't start anything, don't start your day until

733
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 5: like eleven am wherever you are, eleven am is a

734
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: good hour to start doing stuff or like for your

735
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: first engagement.

736
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: With the world.

737
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: And I was like, all right, m hm. Then I

738
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 5: asked if be he takes any vitamins or anything like that.

739
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: He's like, no, so does I take nol atone? In

740
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: all right? They're just just like us.

741
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then he's like, okay, final, I'll be honest.

742
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: Tons and tons of very high grade cocaine on private planes.

743
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: That's how everybody knew it.

744
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 6: I think Jill, I think he's great. When after the

745
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 6: end of the week they did you guys hug.

746
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: I'd like to hug him? You did Hu?

747
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'd hugged Joan all.

748
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: I'll tell him. I'll tell him. I said that.

749
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: No, No, I just it's just something I blurted out.

750
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: Hey, James signed an email.

751
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll email this guy I know who I talked

752
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: to about skateboarding once a year, says that he would.

753
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Like to hug you as a friend.

754
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 6: Tell him as a friend, a friend, just a normal hugged.

755
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 6: I hugged my friends, and I think that he and

756
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: I be friends. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

757
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: You know, the thing that I do, the thing that

758
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: I do love, But this has kind of remind me

759
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: of it, because I feel like your this job is

760
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: like kind of opening you up to like celebrities as

761
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: real people or as regular kind of regular people or

762
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: people whoever's.

763
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: In the hallway.

764
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: But I always found New York City anytime I visited there.

765
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things is just walking around and

766
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: just like seeing what's going on. I always would spot

767
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: celebrities that no one was paid looking at or paying

768
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: attention to. And it's one of my favorite things about

769
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: that city. It's so packed and people are so busy

770
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: with their own shit that they just focus on what

771
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: they need to get doing. They don't care that that

772
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: person is standing right there. I love it so much.

773
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that city is just so fucking cool.

774
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 6: And I've I've always felt like just walking around watching

775
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 6: people rush to wherever they're going. I was confronted by

776
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 6: how lazy I am here in La I'm like, oh,

777
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 6: these everyone is getting shit done here. Maybe I should

778
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: move here for a little while, just so it lights

779
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 6: a fire under my ASSA. Yeah, a work ethic of

780
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 6: some kind.

781
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: That's how I feel. It definitely propels you forward no

782
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: matter what, and I let like, I think the New

783
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 5: York streets and like the subway system are kind of

784
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 5: the great equalizer where everyone has to walk on the

785
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 5: same New York street, everyone has to take the same

786
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 5: trains unless they're you know, uber rich and can take

787
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 5: helicopters or whatever to Manhasset. But I don't know, like

788
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: it's really interesting to me, and it's it's nice that

789
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: you can't you can't ignore each other at all when

790
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: right everyone's like, you know, in their own lane and

791
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: kind of doing their own thing, but you can't ignore

792
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: like the humanity around you.

793
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: Right Yeah, and pretty much everyone takes the subway right

794
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 6: like it's not Yeah, I think so. For some reason,

795
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 6: I felt like it was complicated and I didn't know.

796
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 6: I was asking to make questions before I went down there.

797
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't even and the turnstiles should I

798
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 6: be with? How did they work? It just took me

799
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 6: a while to figure it out. But after a few

800
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 6: days I was like, I totally live here, and yeah,

801
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 6: everyone does it. Everyone's on it. They rely doesn't have

802
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: something like that.

803
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: It can be public, super yeah, it can be super

804
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: intimidating also because the people that are on it and

805
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: using it, like use it every day.

806
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: It's their commute. I saw a girl get stuck in.

807
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: The inside turnstyle, so the one that's like full body

808
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: top to bottom cage. She had she had her bags

809
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: with her, and she clearly was from not from New

810
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: York City, and so she had like three shopping bags

811
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 3: that she had tried to shove in to the little

812
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: cage with her and it stopped turning and people were

813
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: just pressing from the other side, and she was just standing.

814
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: At it, going stop it. Everybody's sad.

815
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: And it's literally like five o'clock commute traffic. I like,

816
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: I didn't even have time to really oggle her enough

817
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 3: to be like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen,

818
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: because I had to keep going. But it was like

819
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: that poor girl, and that could have been me like

820
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: three months ago. It really does like if you have

821
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: to know, you can't be you can't be messing around

822
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: in a thing like that and fuck it up and

823
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: be the one that stopped.

824
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 6: It's in the cage where it's like all those bar

825
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 6: like a cheese slicer.

826
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh yeah, with the paint.

827
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: In my memory it was painted green, but that could

828
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 3: that could be wrong.

829
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: That could be wrong.

830
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: But it's so intense, like she fucked up, and then

831
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 3: all of commuting New York City foot traffic was like,

832
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: we're going to smash you in this thing, like they

833
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: just wanted to keep pushing forward.

834
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: That's why I get nervous.

835
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 6: Before I went down to the subway, I thought I

836
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: was going to fuck up, and there all the New

837
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 6: York people would be like, ha, ha, he doesn't live here.

838
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 5: I mean I still feel that way when I'm like

839
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 5: ordering a sandwich at a deli, where I'm like I

840
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: have to know exactly what I want and I have

841
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 5: to say it fast or else. Yeah, they're just gonna

842
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 5: be like yeah, whatever.

843
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything there. What's the protocol here? Can I pet

844
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 6: your bodega cat?

845
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 5: Yeah?

846
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm new here?

847
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: Is this cool?

848
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: Or I went into a corner store one morning. That's

849
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: one of my favorite New York memories because I only

850
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: lived there for like a year for a similar as

851
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: like an SNL job. It was the second season of

852
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: the Mariadraf anyway, So I left my apartment one morning

853
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: and went down to the padega and there's a very

854
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: solid chance I was baked out of my mind. And

855
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: when I walked in, there was a little old lady

856
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: and she was kind of talking to the guy behind

857
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 3: the counter, and I was like, just don't even pay attention.

858
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: You're going to be upset, because then I.

859
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: Was like, Oh, this ninety old year old lady lives

860
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: in New York City, like in Hell's kitchen, Like what

861
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: is she doing?

862
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: How come she's by herself? Does she need help?

863
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: I can't get involved, like all these kind of city

864
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: fear ideas going through my head. I pick up like

865
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: three things, I go to buy them, and then she

866
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: turns to look at They're just having a conversation like

867
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: they know each other, her and the guy ringing her up.

868
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: And then I'm just standing there like wondering if I'm

869
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: going to have to help this lady.

870
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: And she turns and goes, are you okay, honey? It's

871
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: like I'm good.

872
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, you can go ahead, and like that's

873
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: something I guess they did every Sunday morning or something.

874
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: And I was like I was interpreting the.

875
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: Entire thing, like the big city's going to eat this

876
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: old lady. And it's like that lady's probably live there

877
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: for fucking seventy years, and I'm the one.

878
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm just projecting all my own shit.

879
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Onder her, can I help you with your bags?

880
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 6: And then she pushes you out of the way from

881
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 6: an oncoming bus environment carries you across the street, gently

882
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 6: leaving you in a bush.

883
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 5: I do wonder what it'd be like to live here

884
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: as an old, old person, And it must be really

885
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: hard unless you're like, you know, it's all you know.

886
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: And then it's it's fine, but yeah, it's hard on

887
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 5: the body.

888
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Hard on the body. It's like a lot of vitamins, not.

889
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 6: A lot of retirement speed. There no no even at

890
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 6: my age. Now, that's why I brought up the pigeons.

891
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 6: I think I would be that guy on the bench, That's.

892
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: What because truly it's like walking down the street. You

893
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: got to keep that pace and that's not leisurely paced

894
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: just if you're just walking up the street normally, and

895
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: then you are also touching like probably three people on average,

896
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder, Like the crowdedness, the pace, and then

897
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 3: just the kind of speed of everything is so it's

898
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: so different, and it's so like, yeah, I have to

899
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: literally remember like take a multi vitamin. You're gonna be

900
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: touching parts of the subway. There's things you can't control,

901
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: like you have to brace yourself for it in a way.

902
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: That just that's why it makes sense that everybody thinks

903
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: California people are like laid back, and it's like no,

904
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: we just we don't walk as fast as humanly possible

905
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: up the street and you don't have to either.

906
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's like all those scenes like in twitsy or

907
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 6: something where they just are shooting and no one even

908
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: knows they're on camera.

909
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: And people are walking.

910
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: They're literally touching shoulders on each side with strangers just

911
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 6: accidentally shoulder groping everyone.

912
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I could not. I did get it's electrifying, it's fun,

913
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: but I'm.

914
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 6: Just not used to it. Yeah, I gotta do it.

915
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta move there. That's why I said, sorry,

916
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 6: I keep making this about me.

917
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: I would love it. I'm jealous that you get to

918
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: live there so you can.

919
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: Only you can check it out.

920
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, maybe yeh'll visit things.

921
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 5: Things are bad all over, you know, you might as

922
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 5: well just try and sizes.

923
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd love to just rate on scales of badness

924
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 6: every city.

925
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: Do you have you been doing stand up there? Do

926
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: you find you don't have as much time late lately?

927
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 5: Not as much. But I'll try to do it when

928
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 5: I can. I do when people ask me to do it.

929
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: I found that audience is there.

930
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 6: Like the jokes that I was most precious about or

931
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 6: proud about that maybe didn't always work here. Nothing against

932
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 6: Los Angeles, but I found the audiences there were listening

933
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 6: a little more. Do you find that to be the case.

934
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: I could see that.

935
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

936
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think because going out is a little more

937
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: of a thing here too, because it takes you know,

938
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 5: you have to go out, take the train, blah blah blah.

939
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 5: Everything's very intentional, So I think people kind of do

940
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 5: listen a little better here.

941
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm at comedy on purpose.

942
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 6: It wasn't y yeah shoved into my face because I yeah,

943
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people. You can't surprise people with comedy.

944
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 6: I think that happens much here York. It seems like, oh,

945
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 6: this audience is here because they knew that there was

946
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 6: comedy that's crashing.

947
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: Not like the Bigfoot Lodge where literally there's like streaming

948
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: matches between the comedy crowd and the bar or shishing

949
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: and countershishing were Like I stood in the back of

950
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: that room one time, and I was like, the tension

951
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: in here is palpable just for people to do shitty

952
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: eight minutes sets like what is happening?

953
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: Counter that is a very crazy it was.

954
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: And also it's like there's no it was not a

955
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: separate room. It's just like just that one corner. Yeah.

956
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, people just because there's a little raised area in

957
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 5: a corner doesn't mean people are gonna automatically pay attention

958
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 5: to that corner, but.

959
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: Especially if they're drinking there, if they're drinking fancy drinks,

960
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: then it's just like the volume is off.

961
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel for audience, or I feel for people

962
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: who get the ambush I do. Yeah, I wouldn't want

963
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 5: to do someone want that to happen to me.

964
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of rules, but I do

965
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 6: want whenever I'm doing a show, I don't want it

966
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 6: to be in a surprise to the people in attendance.

967
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: Now, that's my main goal in life, not to surprise people.

968
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: Any kind of live performance. Yeah, when it's within like

969
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: five or ten feet of you, has it has an

970
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 3: intensity because then you if you're like me, for example,

971
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: like if somebody suddenly just walked up and like plugged

972
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: in an acoustic guitar and started doing covers, then I

973
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: would have to look away, which is a choice you're

974
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: making too kind of not Like as a person that's

975
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: done surprise comedy shows before, I know when there's you

976
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: can tell when people are loving it and try to

977
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: be supportive with their like face or when people are

978
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: like this for some reason, I feel vulnerable and humiliated now,

979
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: so I have to look away and there, and then

980
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: it's so uncomfortable when you're a held hostage to art.

981
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 6: It's just it's no, look at my paintings. They're just

982
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 6: hanging them around you. No, no, here's free wine. What

983
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 6: do you think of my paintings?

984
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm eating pizza.

985
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting to think about because the worst version

986
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 6: is where you're someone and then someone's just starts singing.

987
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Dennis Joplin, Oh no, that's karaoke night.

988
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 6: But I enjoyed karaoke if I'm prepared for it, if

989
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 6: I know it's happening, I like to sing it.

990
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: I like to watch, which means which means if you're drunk.

991
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: No, I promise I've been going.

992
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 2: Not you personally, just one.

993
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

994
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 2: To enjoy enjoying karaoke is being shipped.

995
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah yeah yeah. And what else are you going

996
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 6: to do when you wait for your song? I guess

997
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 6: it is a it's an occupial occupational hazard. Would be

998
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 6: in a karaoke junkie like me. That's why I love

999
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 6: the model so much.

1000
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm actually singing with a band in three weeks.

1001
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 6: We're doing a bunch of punk rock songs and I

1002
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 6: have to learn them and rehearse.

1003
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: It's at a skate park.

1004
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just songs that were famous from skate videos.

1005
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 6: Oh shit, so I know a lot of them. But

1006
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 6: you know, Karen, I'm not a singer, but I can

1007
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 6: sing like that. I can mimic a voice, I think

1008
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 6: for but I am. I'm already very nervous for it.

1009
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: And maybe it'll be a situation where people don't know

1010
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 6: there's going to be a band. I don't know. I

1011
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 6: think it's outdoors. It's not a big deal, but I'm

1012
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 6: very excited and nervous.

1013
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 5: Part of an event, or it is.

1014
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 6: Part of an event, Okay, and the three guys I'm

1015
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 6: doing with it, yeah, they will know. Yeah, and the

1016
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 6: guys that I'm doing it with are all musicians. But

1017
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 6: I've never sung in a band. I'm just getting it's

1018
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 6: taking it off. But I'm already nervous for it. To

1019
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 6: get drunk, I might have to, Karen, I think I will, yeah,

1020
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 6: because or take some sort of an add pill.

1021
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 3: I think that, well, but if you're just slightly but sorry,

1022
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: not get drunk, but get a little buzz so that

1023
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: the thing most things don't matter.

1024
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that moment before.

1025
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 6: I just start tearing into a very fast descendent song.

1026
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 6: I probably should have a little alcohol, just ease it up. Yeah,

1027
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 6: doctor's orders. I like your bit, uh, Claire about going

1028
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 6: to planned parenthood to seem smart because you because I

1029
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 6: I do that. I go whenever I'm at the doctor,

1030
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 6: I want to. I don't know why I do it.

1031
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 6: I try and impress them with my terminology, using the

1032
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 6: right terms, and it never works, and they always look

1033
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 6: at me like they're offended. But your version, in your version,

1034
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 6: they're just like, wow, did you go to medical school?

1035
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I really like that bit.

1036
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 5: Well, I've started, uh. I've found myself also in therapy,

1037
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: like talking about things I've read in a book about

1038
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 5: psych collogy and I'm like, yes, I heard that about

1039
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 5: attachment theory or whatever, and the therapist is like, okay, whatever.

1040
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've gotten more of the eye roll version, even

1041
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 6: when I've been right, like I was explaining I had

1042
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 6: strep throat and now my joint's hurt, and he's like, well,

1043
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 6: that doesn't let me look in this book.

1044
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a book that had the doctor's name on it.

1045
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 6: Well, he's like, oh yeah, I guess there is a

1046
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 6: streptococcle react of arthritis.

1047
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: So that must be what you have.

1048
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 6: And I'm like a little bit of credit here for

1049
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 6: the saying that I didn't get any credit.

1050
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: I just got the arthritis.

1051
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: But Claire, is there anything else you'd like to like

1052
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 3: talk about her? Plug before we wrap it up?

1053
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 5: Ooh baby, when does this come out?

1054
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: I think it's like a month?

1055
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, well, yeah, I guess I got nothing to plug.

1056
00:54:54,560 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: I'll watch a Saturday Night Live on Saturdays, hopefully, hopefully

1057
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 5: I'll get.

1058
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: To hear my words from New York. It's from New

1059
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: York Live from Saturday Night. It's New York.

1060
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: Dg I. It's living, It's living.

1061
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: It's very long titled.

1062
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, if there's anything you know, just

1063
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: be good to one another.

1064
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: Your name your comedy album, Let it Be. That's really

1065
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: one of my favorite comedy album titles I've heard in

1066
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 3: a long time. Do you want to Claire's stand up?

1067
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: Look up her comedy album let it Be?

1068
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 5: But just basically stealing the Replacements joke of them naming

1069
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 5: their album let it Be.

1070
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: So I they yeah, oh that makes it even better.

1071
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 5: I told someone that recently and they went, oh cute

1072
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 5: in a condescending way, and I was like, okay, so

1073
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 5: I've got this album, let it be and uh, you know,

1074
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 5: I'm kind of just farting around doing doing my thing,

1075
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 5: as they say, and I'm happy to be here. It's

1076
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 5: nice to see you guys. Yeah, looking spry.

1077
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: It's been so long.

1078
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 5: And so now I go to New York.

1079
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 6: I'll bring aboard with larger, softer wheels to deal with

1080
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 6: the rough stones, stone like roads, and we will roll around.

1081
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 6: You can show me the the mean streets. I'm seven,

1082
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 6: but that, yeah, that's one of the things that excite

1083
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 6: me the most about about that city.

1084
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: So take me skateboarding in New York, please.

1085
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 5: I will. Oh you know, do you know, uh remember

1086
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 5: Kenny Hughes. Sure, New York of course my husband. Recently

1087
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 5: we worked as a mover and he's like this guy

1088
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: I work with. He used to be a pro skater.

1089
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 5: Didn't skate anymore though, Like what's his name is Kenny

1090
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 5: Hughes and like New York legend. Yeah, moving people's furniture.

1091
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 5: It's rough.

1092
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 6: That he did a demo in Missoula that uh so

1093
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 6: I saw him skating. He's a big skate most skaters

1094
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 6: are five nine. That's why I did it. Little feet

1095
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 6: you're five nine, you should skateboard. He's like a big, big,

1096
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 6: strong muscle kid. It's like, oh, you're two feet taller

1097
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 6: than everyone else here, so I'm not surprised he's moving ship. Yeah,

1098
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 6: it's a strong, strong boy, that Kenny.

1099
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 5: Anyway, Sorry to kind of go on the track of

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Speaker 5: the ending, but I had to bring that's really I wrap.

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Speaker 3: It up with one very special thought. Is strong enough

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Speaker 3: to be a mover, and we are all strong enough

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Speaker 3: to be movers and work for moving.

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Speaker 5: That's the That's what's up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, find your inner strength. Thank you for that closing message.

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Speaker 2: Really nice there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good to see you too.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Do You Need a Ride? T

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Speaker 1: y n Are. This has been an exactly Right.

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Speaker 2: Production produced by Analise Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Mixed by John Bradley.

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Speaker 2: Our talent booker is Patrick Cotner.

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Speaker 1: Theme song by Karen Kogeric.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.

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Speaker 3: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook at dinar

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Speaker 3: podcast That's d y n Ar Podcast.

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Speaker 6: For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: I made you yell and I just said it