1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: The volume. Hi, I'm slow and I know basketball. Today's 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: guest is not only an NBA champion, but some may 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: argue he started the athlete podcast movement. His journey from 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: UCLA to playing in the NBA to being a dad 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: is a story you won't want to miss. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Today's guest on Sloan Nose is Matt Barnes. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: Okay, Matt, so, I'm sixteen years old, and I know 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: maybe a long time ago for you to think about this, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: but what were you like at sixteen? 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: Who were you like? What were you like as a person? 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: I think before I tell you how I was at sixteen, 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: I want to congratulate you. Thanks the fact that you 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: are sixteen and you're doing what you're doing. I know 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: you signed over with Draymond Falling right, and I'm just 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: really happy for you. I love it. I think I 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: was telling my fiancees coming over to doing and kind 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: of explaining what she's Alway's like, that's so dope. She's 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: going to open the door for all these young women 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: to start. So kudos to you. 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: I'm sixteen year old Matt Barnes. Can I cuss on here? 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: Of course, Dad may not like it, but it's okay. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Sixteen year old Matt Barnes, I was playing football, baseball, basketball, 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: track in high school, kind of finding myself top athlete. Yeah, 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: I guess I kind of in the cool crowd, if 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: you want to say it. I went to a predominantly 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: white high school. It was about ninety eight percent white, 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: so you know, me and my sister were half and 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 3: one of our cousins was full. So it's probably about 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: ten black kids in the whole school. But it's what 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: I knew. That's where I grew up, you know, Sacramento, California. 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: So sixteen year old me was just really honed in 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: on playing whatever sport the season was when I was 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: growing up, Like you didn't train like you play pickup 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: ball or whatever it may be, but no one really 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: trained now like now kids are training from you know, 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: young ages. But it was just just kind of an 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: all around athlete. Loved hanging out with my friends and 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: just kind of living like care free. 40 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: And I watched a video where you said that you 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: were a football player first. Yes, where when did that 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: change in your mind? Like I actually know I want 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: to go to the NBA. 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: I just always knew I wanted to play both. I 45 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: think football was my my my better sport. I was 46 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: all American football and basketball my senior year. But football 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: just came naturally, you know. I came from a family 48 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: of football players, but just kept getting taller for some reason. 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Like my dad's five ten and my mom was five six, 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: five seven maybe, so my height and came out of nowhere. 51 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 3: So I was always I mean I used to play 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: tackle football on the streets, as crazy as that sound 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: growing up, and then got to high school, was playing 54 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: everything and just really excelled in both of those. But 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: then when I you know, when I was thinking about colleges, 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: I got recruited to go play football and basketball, but 57 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: I was just thinking longevity. There was no one really 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: six or eight at the time that was playing football, 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: and I just thought I'd have a lot, you know, 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: a lot longer career in playing basketball. But basketball I 61 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: really had to work at. 62 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 63 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: And on the topic of college, how did you pick 64 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: UCLA being from Sacramento, Like that's sort. 65 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Of crazy, do you know? It was just I fell 66 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: in love with UCLA. I think I went there at 67 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: my freshman year. I remember I was playing a little 68 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: AU tournament. We went to La and we visited UCLA 69 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: and we walked the campus and I saw the palm 70 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: trees and the pretty girls, and then we went to 71 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: the Santa Monica or excuse me, Venice Beach and I 72 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: saw the beach and I'm just like, such a big 73 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: change from Sacramento. Sacrament was a small farm town predominantly 74 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: just a lot of nature, green rivers, all that kind 75 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: of stuff. So coming out here was just really dope. 76 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: And it you know, it's always it's obviously Hollywood. So 77 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: oddly enough, I got recruited everywhere. I didn't take any trips. 78 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: I committed to UCLA when I was sixteen and didn't 79 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: come for my visit until like like three months before 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: I graduated high school because I was always in season, 81 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: so I never really got a chance to come down 82 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: and kind of take my trip. But yeah, I kind 83 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: of like committed without really taking or having a tour 84 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: with the campus. I just knew I want to go 85 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: to CLA. 86 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: So Matt has two twin sons, Isaiah and Carter. Yeah, 87 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: and they're fifteen or sixteen. 88 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: Just turn fifteen, Just turn fifteen. 89 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So what differences have you seen from when you 90 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: played AAU and then the you game now that your 91 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: boys playing the game. 92 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Now, I say, there's all these y very watered down. 93 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: I think back when I was grown up, AU was 94 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: for the best kids, and if you weren't one of 95 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: those top tier kids, you would just kind of play 96 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: in your local rec league. Now it's if you know, 97 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: one kid doesn't like what's going on, his dad can 98 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: build a new team, or there's always new teams popping ups, 99 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: and there's like tears. Now it's like bronze, Platinam, gold, silver, 100 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: there's so many different levels. So to me, it's just 101 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: more about making money now for these these coaches and 102 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: you know that the people that turned on the events 103 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: and actual having a lot of talent. So even with 104 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: that said, I mean I still love I still love it. 105 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: I enjoy coaching my boys in it, and you know, 106 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: seeing them kind of play against all the other competition 107 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: around the country. 108 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like in AU now there's so 109 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: much NBA player involvement, So the NBA players have their 110 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: own teams, et cetera. When was your first interaction or 111 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: when did you like create your first relationship with an 112 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: NBA player. 113 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: Oh man, my first ever NBA player I met was 114 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: Jalen or Juwan Howard. I went to a Kings game 115 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: when I was like fifteen in Sacramento and a ton 116 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: of people, you know, trying to get his autographed. And 117 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: I was a big old fifteen year old goofy kid, 118 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: and he, you know, he made it way over to 119 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: me and shook my hand and signed my thing. You know, 120 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: I always remember that. So that was my first interaction, 121 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: but i'd say make friends. First NBA guy it was 122 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: probably Chris Webber. Again, this is back guy, Yeah, this 123 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: is back early two thousands when the Kings and the Warriors, 124 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: Kings and Lakers are going at it. Kobe and Shack, 125 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: we're Seaweb and Mike Bibby and those guys. So I 126 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: was from Sack. Loved the Lakers originally, but then the 127 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: Kings grew on me. Web was kind of my big homie. 128 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: I go home and work out within the summertime. So 129 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: he was probably like the first NBA guy that kind 130 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: of put his arm around me. You know, I still 131 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: to this day home like my big brother. I love that. 132 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: Got it death. 133 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So we were just talking about the Kings and 134 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: how they're your hometown team, but you played for nine 135 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: different teams. 136 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: You want to chip with the Warriors. 137 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: You're a put of Lob City in LA and you 138 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: played obviously if your hometown team of Sacramento. Which organization 139 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: do you feel the most connected tips and why? 140 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: I would probably say Golden Date in the in the Clippers, 141 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, my first stint with Golden 142 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: State the first time around that we believe team, we 143 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: made NBA history. We knocked out the first number one 144 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: seed in the seven game series, Dirk Nowitzki. I think 145 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: they were like won sixty five games. He was MVP, 146 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: and we knocked him out in the first round. So 147 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: that was really historic. And even when I went back 148 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: in seventeen and got a chance to play with Katie's 149 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: staph dre Clay, the reporters, even the player like everyone like, 150 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 3: what was that Lob City team? Like like it's like 151 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: kind of like urban legend out there at this point. 152 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: So that was a Dobe team. And then I really 153 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: took a lot of pride in playing in that Lob 154 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: City team because I feel like, we know, we won 155 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: the first Pacific Division championship ever for the Clippers. We 156 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: kind of put them back on the map at that time. 157 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: We were kicking the Lakers, but like beat the Lakers 158 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: by the most points in the series in the rivalry's history, 159 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: and it really felt like we had a chance to 160 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: win a championship with that team, but we just had 161 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: too many egos, our stars didn't get along, and I 162 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: feel like it was really a wasted opportunity. 163 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Would you say, now that you're done playing, you're a 164 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: fan of a team or not. 165 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm fans of players and then yeah, I still I 166 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: hold a special place to my heart. You know, I 167 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: was working for the Kings for a while, so I really, 168 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: you know, enjoy them and Deer and Fox, uh Clip, 169 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: really all the California teams. I think it's easier to say, oh, 170 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: I cheer for all the California teams, and then you 171 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: know particular players like these young players. I like, you 172 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: think the Clippers win the tip. I feel like I 173 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: said at the beginning of season that they can stay healthy. 174 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: This is before James came and buy in, so if 175 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: I feel like if they're one of the deepest teams 176 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: in the league along with Boston. So I picked the 177 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Clippers at the very beginning of the season to win it. 178 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, what was your eye made it moment? 179 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Man, Mad That's a good question, Sloan. I think my 180 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: I made a moment. Wasn't for a while? Like I 181 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: bounced around on maybe four teams my first three or 182 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: four years. Yeah, could I really get a ton of 183 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: opportunity to play? I probably say my I might made 184 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: it moment was that we believe season two thousand and seven. 185 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't think you were born, you were You're born. 186 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so that's thousand and seven. I feel like 187 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: it was really the first time I got an opportunity 188 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: to play, and we made the playoffs and I really 189 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: made a name for myself. I got my first little 190 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: pay day after that serious season. So that was when 191 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: I said tell you about I think I got drafted 192 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: and you know two didn't make it playing the gd 193 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: for a little bit. So my first full season was 194 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: three four, So you know, I felt like I was 195 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: really almost all my way out and you know, luckily 196 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: that Golden State thing worked and you know the rest 197 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: was kind of history. 198 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 199 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: What advice do you have for guys like in the 200 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: gleue right now that may want to give up or 201 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: like I saw somewhere that you were saying that if 202 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the words hadn't signed you, you were just going to 203 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: go travel in NFL, Like, what do you what do 204 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: you say to people that maybe are feeling that way? 205 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: I would tell anyone who who's in this journey, in 206 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: this grind first and foremost, you know you got to 207 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: you got to be in love with this. You know 208 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: you can't love it. You know you got to be 209 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: in love with it because there's beauty in the journey, 210 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: in the grind, and sometimes that grind is tough and 211 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: the journey is ugly. But I feel like at the 212 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: same time, I think what I would tell them is 213 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: I'm understanding what their game is and what they're looking for. 214 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: I think where a lot of people make mistakes on 215 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: all levels is everyone wants to score a lot of 216 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: points because obviously that's the most talked about and decorated. 217 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: But I remember Doc Rivers told me, you know, be 218 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: a star in your role, and I feel like I 219 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: already knew kind of what I was and where I 220 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: was yet during my career what I'd liked to score 221 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: more points, absolutely, but it just I played on teams 222 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 3: with Kobe and Chris Paul and Staph and care like 223 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: if my role wasn't to score a bunch of points. 224 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: My role was to play defense, to be tough, rebound, 225 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 3: do the dirty work. So I feel like a lot 226 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: of times kids and even guys in the G League 227 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: feel like a man, I need to drop thirty so 228 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: I can get called up. And it's not that because 229 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: most of the times we're getting called up from the 230 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: G League, you're coming to fill a role players role, 231 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: so they got their star players or whoever it is. 232 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: So you're coming in to play tough defense, you're coming 233 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: into rebound, You're coming in to be some kind of 234 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: glue part, you know. And that's what I'm saying. You 235 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: have to really understand who your game is and how 236 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: it fits in neat situation. But I would, yeah, I 237 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: would say, you know, focus on being more all around 238 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: and understanding there's little things you can do to make 239 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: a jump to a big team, because again, they're not 240 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: necessarily looking for the leading scorer of the G League, 241 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: because if you were, if that guy was that good, 242 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: he would already be in the NBA. They're looking for 243 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: kind of role players. And that's not to say like 244 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: sometimes G League you do find a Chris Middleton who 245 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: is an all star who can score, but most of 246 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: the time guys coming up from the GD are going 247 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: to be role players. 248 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And sort of on that topic of being patient 249 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: and knowing what position maybe is right for you, I know, 250 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: you played all four years in colleges, so obviously not 251 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: a traditional power school. 252 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: For an NBA player. 253 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: On the topic, I guess of advice, what advice would 254 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: you give to guys in their fourth year, Like do 255 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: you think they can make it? 256 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: It's different now because back when I was playing four years, 257 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: I was the norm. Yeah, like rarely guys he changed 258 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: so much. Rarely were that. I mean, there was the 259 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: high school guys, and then they kind of outlawed the 260 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: guys going straight from high school, and then you would 261 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: stay two, three or three four. Some guys would leave 262 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: after two, but most of the time you're staying three 263 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: or four. So it was a normal to get drafted 264 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: as a senior when I was coming out of the 265 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: NBA in the early two thousands. Now it's kind of 266 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: looked down upon, you know what I mean, Like if 267 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: you're not in the league by your first or second 268 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: year out of college, they're like, you know what I mean. 269 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: So it's tough obviously, the game has changed. So I mean, 270 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: that's why you got to put the work in, man, 271 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: because like I said, if you are a senior or 272 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: even a fifth year, sometimes it works and rare like 273 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: Kimiakas ucl Brun who went for three years. Was he 274 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: all fourth Yeah, I think I think he went for Yeah. 275 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: There's a handful of guys in four years now and 276 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: I think, what's crazy. Now? Coaches loved that kind of thing, 277 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: but like, I don't think organizations. Organizations want young potential, 278 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: so like, but coaches love guys that had four years. 279 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: I mean even Spolster said, I love that he came 280 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: in ready. He played four years in college and he 281 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: knew what to expect, you know. I mean he's not 282 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: bothered by this. But you know, the NBA now drops 283 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: off potential like eighteen nineteen twenty. You gotta be the 284 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 3: most of the time, it's young guys. 285 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: I remember when the Warriors drafted James Wiseman's second he 286 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: was nineteen and because of COVID, he's like only played 287 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: two college games, I think, and I kept just thinking, 288 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: like why doesn't he just play another year in college? 289 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: Like Memphis had things going for them, like she needed 290 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: to just wait and then look where that got him 291 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: waiting like no hate, Like I feel like things could 292 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: have been different he would have taken just like just 293 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: been patient. 294 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: Well you got to think, I mean, it's such a business, 295 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: but you know every year there's only sixty spots. Yeah, 296 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: but over two hundred and fifty three hundred kids into 297 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: the draft every year, So there's a lot of people 298 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: getting bad advice or bad like thinking they're better than 299 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: they are, or their teams telling them the wrong stuff. 300 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 3: So there's it's it's it's such a crapshoot nowt to 301 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: even get in the league. It's always been tough, but 302 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 3: I feel like now it's even harder because the game 303 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: has grown more and they're taking more foreign players. But 304 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: it's it's it's you got a better chance of getting 305 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: struck by lightning than me and draft. 306 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's crazy. With your sons, what was your 307 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: favorite moment from their freshman season at Crespy. 308 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: I think just getting their feet wet, you know, getting 309 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 3: punched in the face and not being afraid of the moment. 310 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: You know, I'm really proud of them, to be honest 311 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: with you, you know, to be able to step up and 312 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: play varsity as freshmen and be impactful. And the one 313 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: thing I told them going in this season is similar 314 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: to what I've been preaching, Like as a freshman, you're 315 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: going to be a role player. You know, that's Joe's team, 316 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: that's Peyton's team. Your job is to go in there 317 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: and help them and make it easier. You know, it'll 318 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 3: be your show come junior year. You know what I mean. 319 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: But right now, these next you know, these first two 320 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: years is you know, you got to do the dirty 321 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: work and make your teammates fall in love with you. 322 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: Do hustle, take charges, dive, be energetic, have good energy 323 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: around the team, and just be you know, just be dope, 324 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: dude tonight. I feel like, you know, to be honest 325 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: with that, I feel I feel like that's what they did. 326 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: And like I said, they played well in big moments, 327 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,239 Speaker 3: hit shots and big moments. You know, both started periodically 328 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: throughout the season. So my whole thing with the twins 329 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: has kind of been like a building process like brick 330 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: by brick. You know, I feel like I've been coaching 331 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: this since they were eight years old, and there's a 332 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: lot of kids that that that that flame out. You know, 333 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: the best eleven year old twelve year old. That was 334 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: never our plan, and I'm glad like we they just 335 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: started working out maybe at thirteen, but I wanted to 336 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: just like, hey, we're going to peak at like sixteen, 337 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen when it's time to go to college. I'm 338 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 3: not worried about you being the best ten eleven year old, 339 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: twelve year old so on and so forth. We just 340 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 3: want to continue to get better. So I feel like 341 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: we're doing, you know, a step by step of you know, 342 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: making sure we know the game, you know, think the game, 343 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: not just play the game, and continuing to just steadily 344 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: get better. 345 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what advice to them do you have because 346 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: obviously your path in high school was way different than theirs, 347 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, growing up with a dad who was in 348 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: the NBA that obviously you have to carry a lot 349 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: on your shoulders. And I know, I went to a 350 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Crespy game and you watch how the crowd reacts to 351 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: your kids as opposed to other kids, and like, obviously 352 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: they have the Barnes last name. What advice do you 353 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: have to them in that area of like staying calm 354 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: and being ground. 355 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: Well, the one thing I'm huge on is the mental 356 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: approach of the game. I feel like it's ninety percent 357 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: of the game and being mentally strong and your mental 358 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: fortitude is to me the most important thing about an athlete, 359 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: not just my sons or basketball player, because you know, 360 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: for for every reason you just said, my kids are 361 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: going to get either extra love because they're my sons 362 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: or extra hate because they're my sons. But you know, 363 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: you've got to stay even keeled, you know. I feel 364 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: like sometimes the ref single them out. Obviously the fans 365 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: will go crazy and boo them, but you know, they've 366 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: been playing big games in front of like once I 367 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: started coaching them, like we started going on a national 368 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: schedule like nine ten years old, so they've been playing 369 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: in front of crowds and like parents are like boo me, 370 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: don't like me, so they don't like the team. So 371 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: they've been playing in hostile environments for a while. So 372 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: that's the one thing I'll say, like that the boys 373 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: are pretty mentally tough, you know for their age. 374 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So now we're going to move on to 375 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: what we call like we don't really have a good 376 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: name for it, so if you would like to help 377 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: come up with it, please do. 378 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: But it's our positive section. 379 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: A lot of what dray One and I talked about 380 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: sort of where partnership comes from is me bringing like 381 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: a fresh new perspective. And so much of basketball media 382 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: is negative, you know, talking about what people did wrong, 383 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: But I sort of want to talk about what people 384 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: did right. So for this next segment, I just want 385 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: to ask you a lot of questions about specific people. 386 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: So you played with some of the best players of 387 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,239 Speaker 1: all time. Who is your starting five of your former teammates? 388 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: Man, that's a tough call, Okay, point guard? Man my 389 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: point guard. I played with Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Baron Davis, 390 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: I played with Steph but I don't really count Steph 391 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: Curry because only play with over half a season. So 392 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to I'll just keep Steph out because obviously 393 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: he's incredible. Out of those people I just named, I 394 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: would go with Chris Paul is my starting point guard. 395 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: My starting two guard would be Kobe. My starting three 396 00:16:52,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: would be Pages Stoyakovich for damn stuff either damn either 397 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: Chris Weber or Blake Griffin at my power forward. I'll 398 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: let the fans decide that, and then my center is 399 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: gonna be shocked. Do you also not count Katie because yeah, 400 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: like I said, I only play with those guys for 401 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: a time, and I played for Katie I did. Actually, 402 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: so crazy part is so I'm my my final season, 403 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: whatever up be. In my final season, I signed a 404 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: three year dare that year. My original talks was to 405 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: go to go to State. Like, so the whole summer 406 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: I knew Katie and Andre were talking and Katie, you 407 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: were talking, and I were talking about, you know this, 408 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: try to like, you know, try to if I'm gonna 409 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: go to Golden State, you should try to come. So 410 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: we're talking to doing that and it kind of fell through. 411 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: So I ended up going to Sacramento. But that year, 412 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: so I signed a three year deal to kind of 413 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: retire my hometown. That year, they end up trading to 414 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: Marcus because the trade Inliner. So I'm just like, talk 415 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: to management like I'm too old to try to rebuild. 416 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: So we worked out a situation where I get all 417 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: my money still and I would free. I was free 418 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: to go somewhere else. And right when that happened, Katie 419 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: ends up spraining his knee and in the game, where's 420 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: the Wizards And like maybe three days after I left Sacramento. 421 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: I was signed by Golden State. So and then the 422 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: first game Katie came back. First game Katie comes back, 423 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: he comes back maybe two week. A week before the playoffs, 424 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: I sprained my ankle. So Katie and I played together 425 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: for like ten. 426 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: Minutes, like you got all your money and a ring. 427 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: So I feel like it was like, yeah, it definitely 428 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: worked out. Only the only thing that it's kind of 429 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: crappy about that is that, you know, I grinded my 430 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: whole career to win, and the finally when I have 431 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: a great chance, so I get hurt going into the 432 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: playoffs and I'm not healthy in the playoffs to actually contribute, 433 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: So that kind of hurt. But it was kind of 434 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: a perfect storm and winning a ring. Businesses were going well, 435 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: and then I kind of really missed being a dad. 436 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't good chance to see the twins 437 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: as much, so I felt like it was a good 438 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: time to, you know, see what was next. 439 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Is there someone currently not in the league but who's 440 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: still hooping, maybe overseas or in the G League do 441 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: you think deserves another chance in the NBA. 442 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Someone that was on my show this morning, My 443 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: brother DeMarcus Cousins. I feel like he can definitely still 444 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 3: help a team, and I also feel like Dwhite Howard 445 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: can still help a team. Oh, I forgot about Dwight 446 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: Howard Dwight. I forgot about Dwight. So I played with 447 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: older Shack and Prime Dwhite. So I'm gonna go ahead 448 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: and switch this. I didn't get to play with Laker Dwight. 449 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: Excuse me, Shack. I got to play with Phoenix Sunshack 450 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: and he was still awesome and cool. I'm going to switch. 451 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: My sinner is going to be Dwight. I played with 452 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: Prime d White Howeur. People don't know how good Prime 453 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: Dwight Howeer was. He was absolutely It's crazy that he 454 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: was snubbed. Top seventy five, Sam Evince Carter were definitely robbed, 455 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: and I forgot I played with Vince Carter too, and 456 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: I played with with Alan Iverson too. 457 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: I feel like you're maybe getting old. 458 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: I am it's not good. Dang. I forgot about Ai too. 459 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: Oh you want to team keeping it? 460 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: Keeping it okay? 461 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: So you have a lot of tattoosh, what is your 462 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: most meaningful tattoo? 463 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: And why man stomach? There's the portrait of my mom, 464 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: who I lost to cancer in two thousand and seven. 465 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 3: But I got this tattoo on my leg recently of 466 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: the twins and their youngest brother, Ashton. So I got 467 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: this last summer. So this is probably my favorite. Obviously 468 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: I got the Kobe down here, the All Star picture 469 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: where he's hugging her and giving her a kiss. So 470 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: the Kobe won, the twins, and my little man ash 471 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: and then my mom on my stomach. 472 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Okay, on the topic of Kobe, I feel like because 473 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: of the classic flinching situation, people don't know that you 474 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: and Kobe. 475 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: Were so close, you're good friends. 476 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about you and Kobe's 477 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: relationship and then maybe tell us the story that you've 478 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: never told us. 479 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: So I've met, I got a chance to meet Kobe. 480 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: I came to UCLA in nineteen ninety eight. He was 481 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: drafted to the Lakers in ninety six, and you know, 482 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: it's kind of well documented. He didn't really fit in 483 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: with the older guys. He was fresh out of high school. 484 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 3: Se was on UCLA campbells all the time. So you 485 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: see Kobe walking around eating where we eat, like chilling, 486 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 3: sitting down on campus, working out. He used to come 487 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: in after you see our practice and work out in 488 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: poly Pavilion. So I got a chance to kind of 489 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: meet him and then play against him in the men's gym. 490 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: So I definitely wouldn't say there was a friendship there, 491 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 3: just you know, meeting and passing and then you know, 492 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: got a chance to kind of play with them during 493 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: the summer. You know, fast forward me making the NBA 494 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: Kobe's Kobe by that time, and it was just always 495 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: just really a challenge I look forward to. I was 496 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: one of those rare clubs. I think I was a 497 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 3: football player, like I looked forward to, like physically locking 498 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: up on defense with the best players, and I always 499 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: had to guard the best players. So it went from 500 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: just respecting him being really well and then you know, 501 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: him and I going against each other and then it 502 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: culminated in twenty ten with the ball fake and then 503 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: after that situation, you know, then we lose in the 504 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference finals the Celtics. They end up beating the 505 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: Celtics in the finals. I wanted to stay with the Magic, 506 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 3: it didn't end up working out, so I gult hit 507 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: up by pat Riley. And this is the summer that 508 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: bron and Bosh end up going and forming the Heatles. 509 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: But I'm talking to Pat back and forth. I'm like, 510 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: shoot up going to go up the freeway to South Beach. 511 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: This is dope. End up talking to d Wade and 512 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: Pat's telling me, like, you know, the closing lineup would 513 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: be d Wade, Mike Miller, You Lebron, and Chris Bosh. 514 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: I'm just like, damn, that sounds crazy. Sound crazy. So 515 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I'm just gonna go right up to I 516 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: was just gonna stand Florida all summer. And then I 517 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: get a random phone call from a number I don't know, 518 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: and I normally don't pick up the phone, and I 519 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: happen to pick up the phone in his coke, but 520 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: I don't believe it at first. He's like, what up? NB. 521 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, who's this? He's like Kobe. I'm like, yeah, right, 522 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: Like who is this? He's like, no, it's Kobe. I'm like, oh, 523 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: what up? And he's you know, we kind of start 524 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: talking about it, congratulating about them when in the finals, 525 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: and you know, he said anyone. We start talking. He's like, so, 526 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: what are you gonna do next season? I was just like, 527 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 3: I'm not talking to Miami. I'm not sure what's up. 528 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, anyone crazy enough to fuck with me? 529 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: Excuse my language, it's crazy enough to play with me. 530 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: Do you want to be a Laker? I'm like what, 531 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: Like who is this? And I'm like, hell yeah, I'm like, 532 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: I promise you. Like four days later, I was in 533 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 3: LA and I signed to become a Laker. So we 534 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 3: went from competitors to nearly fighting, you know. And then 535 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: as soon as that happened that summer, you know, he's 536 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: recruiting me to the Lakers. I'm a Laker. I get 537 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: to move back to Cali and we went from kind 538 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: of competitors to teammates to brothers. But one cool thing 539 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: about Cope was right off the rip, he was he 540 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: loved the twins. So the twins were maybe three years 541 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: old when we came to LA. Four yeah, three years old, 542 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 3: and I used to bring them everywhere. So they would 543 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: come in the locker room, and right from the rip, 544 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: Cob was giving them shoes and Uncle Coe and they 545 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: would climb on them and wrestle them, and he'd give 546 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: them jerseys and he would like, from like very early, 547 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: like there's a picture I posted them when he's holding 548 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: them and there maybe three like held them, both of them, 549 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: like he's always been uncle Cobe. So that's like from there, 550 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: like we really started becoming closer because just the way 551 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: he accepted my sons and I always looked out for them. So, 552 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 3: you know, fast forward, we played together for a few years. 553 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: He's retired, so he's at the time he lives on 554 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: Orange County East coaching Gigi. I retire year after him, 555 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: and I'm coaching the twins when the twins are about 556 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: eight years old. I think Gigs eleven at this point. 557 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: But what would be crazy was we would, you know, 558 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: always see each other, you know, twice a month down 559 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: at the facilities down in oc But he we started 560 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: once we realized we were both going to be there 561 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: with times g played with time the twins play so 562 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: like Cope sometimes I remember one particular time that the 563 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: twins played at nine. I think even after basketball, we 564 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: became closer because I got a chance to you know, 565 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: I always say, I'm really proud I got a chance 566 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: to not you know, obviously played with it against the mom, 567 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: but that mentality, but I got to see the man, 568 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: the person, the father, the businessman, like the other side 569 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 3: of him that he didn't really let too many people 570 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: in to see and just super cool, great dude, and 571 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, obviously we all missed them. 572 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about you and Kobe would eat in 573 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: the same places. Where'd you eat in Westwood? Like, what's 574 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: your place there? 575 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: Used to play a place in Westwood that I love 576 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: called Saxon. It's not there no more, but it used 577 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: to be like like like these fried little chicken things 578 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 3: and rice. It was kind of like like like like 579 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: the stir fire rice. You can get it like a 580 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: Japanese edes's restaurant. But it was just super it was 581 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: just way more. I'm not doing it justice by that. 582 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: And then a place called Fat Souse. Yeah, so I 583 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: actually tried to go. It's a funny story. Went there 584 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: like six eight months ago and just wanted to walk 585 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: around west But it was like two am when I went, 586 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: and I got a Fat Souse thing and it's one 587 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: of the things that had cheese sticks, a little cheese. 588 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: I was on the toilet. Excuse me, but too much information. 589 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: But I was just like I thought to myself, like, yeah, 590 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: I can't do this like I used to do when 591 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: I was a team I'm in my forties. Now my 592 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: buddy is not the same. Yeah, they tore me, uh 593 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 3: maybe t M. I forgive me, but it just it 594 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: just shows like back when you're young. You gotta stum 595 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: in like a billy. Go you get mine. You gotta 596 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: be careful. 597 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: Have you ever been to Hibachi Poppy? 598 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: What's that? 599 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Okay? 600 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: It's like Danny Hannah, but it's like just out. It's 601 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: so far like I would Okay, it's probably will be 602 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: the same thing. You want to still dry Hubachi pop? 603 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I'm always down for a good chout. 604 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you go to Poppy, think about I love 605 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: Benny Hanna, but like someone's going there's like too much, 606 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: but like get it to go such a good like late. 607 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: Night Bachi pie and it's open late Yeah killer, I'm 608 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 3: on it. 609 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, what would your like cheat meal like after 610 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: a game you just played? 611 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Well, what do you mean? 612 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 3: Man? Once I was in the NBA, probably be like 613 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: wing stop. Yeah, I'll be honest. I was one of 614 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: those guys. And it sounds crazy because when I was playing, 615 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: like diet wasn't a big deal, you know what I mean, 616 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: like eating healthy and doing healthy stuff like you I 617 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 3: think I played in the early like I played my RIP. 618 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: The year was almost twenty two, twenty three years ago, 619 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So it was way different. 620 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: So I was one of those guys that kind of 621 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: ate whatever I wanted and it just worked off, worked 622 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: out really hard, and we get a six pack and 623 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: everything before every season. But I was never really a 624 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: healthy eater, to be honest with you, So I kind 625 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: of treated myself like I enjoy food, you know what 626 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean? So I wasn't. There would be times maybe 627 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: when like towards like my last maybe like my twelfth thirteenth, 628 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: fourteenth year, I would start having a chef and kind 629 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: of eating healthy because I was getting older. But outside 630 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: of that, I kind of what I wanted. 631 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard told me that during his time with the 632 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Magic he would have twenty five candy bars. 633 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: Today, do you believe that some of these suits are 634 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: not yet Dwight's whatever? Dwight is different? You know? Also 635 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: what was a dk Metcalf says he eats nothing but candy, 636 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Some of these guys are 637 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: just like inane freak athletes. 638 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: In your fourteen years and you obviously went to every 639 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: single arena multiple multiple times and probably like new ones, 640 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: old ones, et cetera. 641 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Do you ever eat the food there? Like do you 642 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: know what chrena is? 643 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't. I wish I did. That's it great 644 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: because it's funny. So when I went back and started 645 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: working out with the King, you got to think, like 646 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: I've never even been on like the concourse level of 647 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: most place because I'm always in the locker room on 648 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: the floor that I'm out of there. So like when 649 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: I go to Staples Center now, like I take pride 650 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: and kind of seeing like what little paste tastes good 651 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: when I'm in the Kings while I was working for 652 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: the Kings, walk around at halftime, like seeing what little 653 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: spot taste good? Because I like, like I love like 654 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 3: the food a daughter stadium, Like I always liked trying 655 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: the hot dogs or whatever the NAT shows wherever I'm at, 656 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: So I can't say that I know what stadium has 657 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: the best food? 658 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: Were you at all start? 659 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: I did it all? 660 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: In Indiana? 661 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: There was like these like at the CTITU there's these 662 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: like gigantic pretzels. 663 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: Were they good? Oh my god? 664 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: Like it tasted like it was like heavy salty. It 665 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: was like it was salty, but it was like the 666 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: material like cake. So it was like cake, you know 667 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it was so I could have 668 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: eaten like a hundred of us. 669 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: That sounds good. I'm always for that. 670 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: You go on a food tour, I'm all the stadiums. 671 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: That's a good thing. We can go together make some content. Yeah, 672 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: we definitely make some content. I'm down. 673 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: Who is a player in the league currently, a young 674 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: guy that you think's game is similar to. 675 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: What you're sing? 676 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I don't really think there's there's I think 677 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: the game has changed so much to me. I could 678 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: tell you guys that like style of players that I 679 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: feel like that I kind of played like there's still 680 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: like a Pat Bev or a PJ to Like I 681 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: feel like I was a three and D kind of 682 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: a physical presence, you know, I always had to guard 683 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: the best player. But like I said, back when I played, 684 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: there was roles for that. Now it's just like there's 685 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: less defense and obviously more skill on offense. So I 686 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't really say like none of I wouldn't say none 687 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: of these younger guys, Like these guys are dope, you 688 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean? These guys are super talented. Like 689 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: I said, I hung my hat on toughness, heart, being 690 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: able to shoot threes and play defense. 691 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: So so now we've talked, we've gotten deep. We've gone 692 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: a little too far. But that's okay. 693 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: About the bathroom, no, no, no, no, that's okay for men 694 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: to be like talk about their like. 695 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: Shut out like. 696 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: We should get a sponsorship at. 697 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: About you, Poppy? For sure, I'm gonna write it down 698 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: in my notes. I don't forget. 699 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: It's the pink apron guy. Watch you, Poppy. 700 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So last session is Slowan knows your game, okay, 701 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: but do you met? 702 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, so we shall see. Are you ready 703 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: to do it? Okay? You were drafted forty six? Who 704 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: was drafted forty fifth? And who was drafted forty seven? 705 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: Oh no, clue joy, guess I have no idea. 706 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a zero. So it's not a great start, man, 707 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: I need you to see. 708 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Draymond is more focused on side. Remember he listed everyone 709 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: that was drafted for like I didn't. I care about 710 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: none of that. I'm just ready to go to work. 711 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: How many UCLA players have been selected in the NBA. 712 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: Draft one hundred and two Okay. 713 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: I'll give you one more guests because you're like sword 714 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: of close. 715 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: We just did a thing on our thing today. There 716 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: have been or how many how many is. 717 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: It one hundred twenty five? 718 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: Oh? We were wrong? 719 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: Then this is not like if your son's watched this 720 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: off not great? 721 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: Maybe that's my dad. 722 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, embarrassing. Okay, now let's try to revive you. 723 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Okay, what was your free throw percentage during your four 724 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: years at UCLA? 725 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, like sixty eight or sixty nine percent? 726 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Oh, he is confident and it's actually sixty point five? 727 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: Was it? 728 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 729 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: Fifty point five? 730 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 731 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: Hoof? Yeah, maybe that was my NBA I got to 732 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: like almost the seventies when I was in the league. 733 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, hoof, that's like a coin flip's don't 734 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: send me to the line. I mad him win account 735 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 3: the what a shock he say? I used to make 736 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: him win? It counts. Let me go with that one. 737 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: You shot a career high and your three point percentage 738 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: during your senior year a UCLA. 739 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: What was it? 740 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: Oh, no, thirty forty two. 741 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: Forty one point seven? Which round it is forty two? Okay, 742 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: we at one point for that. There is another famous 743 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: Matt Barnes. 744 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: Baseball pitcher for the White Sox Red Sox Red Sox. 745 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: I got traded, yes, so I don't know where he's 746 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: at now, but I always it's funny. The reason why 747 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: I say it because I'll go on Twitter sometimes that 748 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: people are cussing me out for a bad inning. I'm like, yeah, 749 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: I'm Matt barn Like, you're a piece of get out 750 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: of here. I'm just like, damn what I do this time? 751 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: And it's it was the Matt Martins, the pitcher. Where's 752 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: he got? 753 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Now? 754 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: We's in the minors, but he's part of the Washington 755 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: Nationals organization. 756 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to get I used to get hell 757 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: when he pitched for the Red Sox. 758 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like an all star. 759 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he came out, he got a nice contract and everything. 760 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: I was always in the loop. Like people thought it 761 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: would correct gratulations on the forty million. I'm like, I wrong, 762 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: Matt Barnes. Thanks though, So now. 763 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you got half of that question, so 764 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: technically a right question. It's two points and so the 765 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: first one, so you're at like three, like four, go ahead, three, 766 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: it's my show, Matt, gotcha? 767 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you? 768 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: Okay, you played on the Magic for one year and 769 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: you played all eighty one games. 770 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: How many points did you average? 771 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: I think in Orlando, I have it was like anywhere 772 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: from like nine to eleven somewhere in that window. 773 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight point eight. 774 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: We just like practically, I mean, is that really a 775 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: winner's mentality for me to be like Matt eight point eight? 776 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: But you said none, but you think give you. 777 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: The points still it's your show, you know. 778 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: That is so true. I did say that. I feel 779 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: like you can get like a half thing. Yeah, okay. 780 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: Next, how many touchdowns did you score your senior year 781 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: of high school? 782 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: Twenty eight? Yes? Okay, good one that was on a 783 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: broken toe too, by the way, but go ahead, wow. 784 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: Look at you. 785 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you played two seasons with the Lakers. What was 786 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: your career high in point score? 787 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: I'm guessing twenty four? Twenty four? No, but it wasn't 788 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: because I know I had like twenty five against Minnesota 789 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: one time because I was seven for seven, I didn't 790 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: miss oh twenty five points. So yeah, yeah, much as pretending. 791 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: So maybe that's a plus two for me because you're 792 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: that puts me like, that puts me at like eight. 793 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, eight, I don't know, I feel that's maybe six six. Yeah, 794 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: let's let's roll with six. 795 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: Round up. 796 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: You had one triple double in your career, twenty six points, 797 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: eleven rebounds. Tennis is how many steals do you have 798 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: that game? 799 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I don't know. I know I was the 800 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: oldest player ever to get their first triple double. Steals. 801 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: I'll maybe say three two, this. 802 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: Is a bonus. How many blocks and how many fouls? 803 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: I was tired of that game, so I'm saying maybe 804 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: forty five fouls and. 805 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: Five thousand yep? 806 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: Two blocks? 807 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: Zero blocks. 808 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 3: The rest of your stat line was you said you 809 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: shouldn't asked that you were tricking me. 810 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. Okay, this is the last question, Matt. 811 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: Okay, this is worth ten It's. 812 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, whatever. This is like my teachers. 813 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: This is what teachers hate the most when the kids 814 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: try to be the ones controlling the gradeing. But it's okay, 815 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: I'll okay. This is a two parter. You won your 816 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: chip in Game five against the Caps. 817 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 2: Okay. Lebron is the leading scorer in that game. How 818 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: many points did he have? 819 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 3: Thirty six? Thirty eight more? 820 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: Yep? 821 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: Did he he got in the forties? 822 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 2: He did let's go forty two, forty one? 823 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: Okay, what did Katie had you guys? 824 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: That was actually the next question who led the warriors 825 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: in points? 826 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: But you and Katie were going it was Katie? 827 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: And how many points did Katie score? 828 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 3: High thirties? 829 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: You need to give me like a real number. 830 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: It was high thirties up, yes, okay, thirty. 831 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: Eight yes, thirty nine okay, So how many points do 832 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: you think you deserve from that? 833 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: At least four point two point two? Yeah? 834 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll consult. 835 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: That'll give me to a fifteen. 836 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: Some other people I feel like you. Well, thank you, Matt, 837 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: that was so much fun. 838 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: Doubt, thanks for listening. 839 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: You can get links to my soldiers you see behind 840 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: the scenes fun from Matt and I in the show notes, 841 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: or just search at slow notes on Instagram, to TikTok, 842 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: YouTube or snapdack. 843 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: Remember that's the slow with an 844 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: The volume