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Speaker 1: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bet. Betty

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Speaker 1: is a team sport, but together it went bet. Eric

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Speaker 1: Allen here at One Jets Drive, joined by ESPN senior

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Speaker 1: NFL insider Adam Schafter.

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Speaker 2: So great to have you in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Eric, Thank you for getting the title right, and thank

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Speaker 3: you for having me. It is a great honor to

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Speaker 3: be here. This is the first training camp of the

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Speaker 3: summer that I'm visiting. This is the week that I'm

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Speaker 3: going out. I'll be out at a bunch of different

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Speaker 3: camps this week for the first time, but this is

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Speaker 3: where we start this year, and I'm very excited to

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Speaker 3: be here. It's a great honor.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe You've been covering the National Football League

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: Thirty three years and a lot has changed and a

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Speaker 3: lot of stayed the same, and it's still more popular

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Speaker 3: than ever before. What a great honor to get to

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Speaker 3: do this as long as I have, and to meet

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Speaker 3: so many great people along the way and form some

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Speaker 3: meaningfulationships and have some nice professional relationships, and what a

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Speaker 3: great thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I grew up as a little boy as a Jets fan.

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Speaker 3: So if you had said to me forty three, fifty

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Speaker 3: three years from now, you'll be sitting in the Jets

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Speaker 3: training complex doing a podcast, hanging out there on a

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Speaker 3: day where they have training camp practice. The young boy

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Speaker 3: And now this morning I was thinking, oh wow. I

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Speaker 3: tried to harken back to that and summon that up

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Speaker 3: in me. Like the little boy me would love this

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Speaker 3: so much, and even as an adult, I have great

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Speaker 3: appreciation for it. But it's a little bit different as

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Speaker 3: a professional, as opposed to the young guy who would

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Speaker 3: call Jets players in the hotel the night before the

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Speaker 3: game to wish them luck like I used to.

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Speaker 1: You are a Valley Stream, New York native.

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Speaker 3: I was born in Valles Stream, but I grew up

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Speaker 3: in Belmore.

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Speaker 1: Right, and you went to JFK. So who were your

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Speaker 1: guys being a Jets fan, who were the players that

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Speaker 1: you admired the most?

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Speaker 3: Well, everybody always loved Joe Namath, but he played a

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Speaker 3: little bit before me. The New York Sack Exchange was

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Speaker 3: right in my fanhood of being a Jets fan. Richard

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Speaker 3: Todd lived in the Hamlet in Jericho. My cousin moved

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Speaker 3: from Belmore to the Hamlet. He lived two blocks away

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Speaker 3: know what to say. I was tongue to I'm like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, there is the starting quarterback of the

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Speaker 3: New York Jets. Wesley Walker was probably my single favorite

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Speaker 3: player growing up. Loved watching him LANCEMLL Greg Buddle. When

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Speaker 3: Joe Klecko was reciting the names of all the defensive

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Speaker 3: players on the defense that they played with the Halt

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Speaker 3: Pro Football Fame, there wasn't a name that he said

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Speaker 3: that I didn't remember, not one. Remembered every one of

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Speaker 1: Have you ever told Wesley Walker that perhaps he was

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Speaker 1: your favorite?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think I met him really.

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Speaker 3: I was at the Jersey unveil party where my daughter

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Speaker 3: Dylan was interviewing some of the Jets players then and

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Speaker 3: chance to actually speak with him that night. He was.

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Speaker 3: I loved Wesley Walker as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for a kid who grew up on Long Island.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the Jets' legacy throwbacks?

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Speaker 3: They're great. I mean, I've got no problem. They want

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Speaker 3: It's a sharp look, sharp, clean, crisp look.

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Speaker 1: Jets will be wearing those opening night September eleventh against

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and then a week four when we

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Speaker 1: might see that first ever meeting between Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 3: That should be pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: So, So what was.

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Speaker 2: Your off season like?

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Speaker 1: Covering the whole Aaron Rodgers dynamic unfold starts the offseason

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Speaker 1: with the Packers. Maybe he's going to retire, Well, is

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Speaker 1: then finally you're the one who broke the news as

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Speaker 3: Well, really, if you think about it, two of the

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Speaker 3: past three off seasons have been Aaron Rodgers dominated. Because

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Speaker 3: But that was a Aaron Rodgers dominant off season two

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Speaker 3: next week we reported that the Green Bay Packers were,

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Speaker 3: in fact, per sources open to trading him, and we

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Speaker 3: And I just think, you know, when something like that happens,

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Speaker 3: so what's the word. I'm looking for it. Just it

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Speaker 3: fires up everybody. It's all new, it's exciting, it's fresh, right,

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Speaker 3: the same thing with Tom Brady. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the reaction to you breaking

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Speaker 3: That means, well, you know what happened. Yeah, it got

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Speaker 3: taken a little bit out of context because what happened was, look,

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Speaker 3: it's no surprise that he was traded to the Jets,

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Speaker 3: If I had time to process all the information and

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Speaker 3: The Jets and Packers have swapped first round picks. But

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Speaker 3: that's not what I said, Eric, because it was just

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Speaker 3: Marcus Spears and dan Orlowski lost their minds like they

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Speaker 3: that's what everybody was waiting to say. What does Green

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Speaker 3: Bay get back for Aaron Rodgers? Well, that's what they

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Speaker 1: How much of an adrenaline rush is that for you?

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Speaker 1: During that time, because you've broken so many stories over

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Speaker 3: But again, let me say this, I don't care how

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Speaker 3: We were in the kitchen. I was waiting to see

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Speaker 3: whenever there's a big story going on, it's it's tense

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Speaker 1: What's your sense from watching Aaron Rodgers from AFAR, and

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Speaker 1: you're going to be talking to people in the building

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Speaker 1: here today. But as far as that fire that still burns,

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Speaker 3: From Afar, he looks really happy. He looks really happy,

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Speaker 3: and we know he's going to be motivated. I mean,

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Speaker 3: all you have to do is look at what a

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Speaker 3: Now I'm not telling Aaron Rodgers is gonna win a

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Speaker 3: to any other quarterback who we're playing here this year.

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Speaker 3: But if the Jets had their status quo quarterback situation

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Speaker 3: as opposed to Aaron Rodgers. Would there be the level

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Speaker 3: Would all these things be happening were it not for

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Speaker 3: the presence of one particular individual. Now, the Jets had

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Speaker 3: much of the nucleus in place, much of the infrastructure

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Speaker 3: in place, But the acquisition of one man changed. The

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Speaker 3: tell me, is there a difference here this summer compared

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Speaker 1: This is my twenty third season with the Jets that

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Speaker 1: What would it do for Aaron Rodgers' legacy if he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that.

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Speaker 1: Messier, that's the one part. I was talking to Peter

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised at the numbers when you heard about

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Speaker 1: So that in ninety four fifty four years, that's right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Is this a perfect storm for Rogers entering a situation

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Speaker 3: The team is pretty good, right, and team is pretty good,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Joe knows talent and I think Robert is

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Speaker 3: different for him. It's new and he obviously has to

439
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Speaker 3: feel a tremendous sense of comfort on the offensive side

440
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: with Nathaniel Hackett. So look, look, it's all new to

441
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: him in so many ways. And I think it's like

442
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: somebody who moves, changes jobs, changes cities. After eighteen years,

443
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: whatever it is, how many years are you playing groove?

444
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: Eighteen eighteen years, eighteen years in one place after a while,

445
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: you know what, Like you've been living in the same

446
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: house for eighteen years, you moved to an entirely new neighborhood,

447
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: you were living in an apartment, you moved into a house,

448
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: or you lived in the house you moved to, and

449
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: it's just all new. It's Isn't this great? And so

450
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Speaker 3: now we see how that impacts him on the football field.

451
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Speaker 1: What do you think about the young stars here? You

452
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: talk about the defensive rookie the year in Sauce Gardner

453
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Speaker 1: and how much swag he has, but also his mindset.

454
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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson goes for eleven hundred plus yards despite playing

455
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Speaker 1: with four different quarterbacks last year, and again he seems

456
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Speaker 1: to be wired differently. You re sign Quinn and Williams

457
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Speaker 1: in the offseason. There's a cornerstone piece of your defense.

458
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Speaker 1: You got Breese Hall is going to be coming back

459
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Speaker 1: from day See how you got CJ. Moseley, DJ Reid.

460
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about the roster, there is

461
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Speaker 1: elite players surrounding that Hall of Fame quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well and again, the Hall of Fame quarterback has the

463
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Speaker 3: chance to make people notice how good these other players are.

464
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Speaker 3: And everybody can see the type of talent that so

465
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Speaker 3: many of them have. Right like saw seems like he's

466
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Speaker 3: a special cornerback. Garrett Wilson, I don't know his father.

467
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Speaker 3: I've got to know his father. His father, Wow, talk

468
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: about an impressive guy. His father, Kenny is an impressive guy.

469
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Speaker 3: You ever spent a time with him. You should get

470
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Speaker 3: him on here as against We will do that. He runs,

471
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Speaker 3: he's like the CEO of his company. Talk about a

472
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Speaker 3: leader of men, guy that played professional basketball. I'm a

473
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Speaker 3: big Kenny Wilson fan. I still think that there's a

474
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Speaker 3: feeling in this organization that this is Bruce Hall's team still,

475
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Speaker 3: so you know that he's going to be a star.

476
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: And Quentin Williams they gave the big call, so yeah,

477
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Speaker 3: they have. But guess what eric they had all these

478
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Speaker 3: guys last year, right, yes, okay.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's interesting that what you just said here

480
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Speaker 1: a feeling that's at the organization.

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Speaker 2: This is pretty fausting.

482
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Speaker 3: I think there is a feeling like that.

483
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Speaker 1: How impressed were you last year?

484
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Speaker 2: I think he averaged.

485
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Speaker 3: He would have won the Offensive Rookie of the Year.

486
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Speaker 2: Gary Wilson said as much he.

487
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Speaker 3: Would have run, he would have won it. And so

488
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Speaker 3: it doesn't go his way because of the injury. But

489
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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be ready for the opener. I

490
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Speaker 3: think he'll be ready for the opener. I don't think

491
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Speaker 3: he's gonna be ready for a full workload in the opener,

492
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Speaker 3: but I think my guess is he'll be out there

493
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Speaker 3: opening night.

494
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Speaker 2: What do you make of the landscape of the division?

495
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Speaker 1: The Jets resigning, also the conference brutal?

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, tougher. The division is tough and the Conference is tougher,

497
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Speaker 3: like if Tui stays healthy. I think Miami's really good,

498
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: Buffalo we know is really good, and New England's just

499
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Speaker 3: New England. There's an aura to them, even though the

500
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Speaker 3: Patriots have struggled recently. So the division is really hard,

501
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Speaker 3: and then you factor in the Chiefs and the Bank

502
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Speaker 3: and the Jaguars and the Ravens. I mean, there can't

503
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Speaker 3: be many times. There can't be many times when there's

504
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: been a conference more loaded than the AFC is this year. Now.

505
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Speaker 3: I'm sure we can find certain times in history where

506
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Speaker 3: there have been a bunch of great teams in one conference,

507
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Speaker 3: But I'll put the AFC this year because of the quarterbacks,

508
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: up against just about any conference at any time. Now.

509
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Speaker 3: I don't know how it would compare, But you're telling

510
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Speaker 3: me a conference with Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers and

511
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence and Patrick

512
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: Mahomes and Justin Herbert, like, wow, has one conference ever

513
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: had more great quarterbacks and really good teams ever? And

514
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Speaker 3: we're just talking. I don't know, but it would be

515
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Speaker 3: up there right now.

516
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Speaker 1: That's that's the problem I have, is that one of

517
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Speaker 1: these teams is not gonna end up being good or

518
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Speaker 1: making the playoffs if we start, If he started, he

519
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: started going up the list as far as who's the

520
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: signal callers on all these teams?

521
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Speaker 2: Because only seven teams are making the playoffs and somebody's

522
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Speaker 2: not going to go.

523
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Speaker 1: So what do you make of the Jets early as

524
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Speaker 1: far as Rogers comes in. You mentioned the Bills and

525
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Speaker 1: then Dallas. I'm not telling you go game this game,

526
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Speaker 1: but what do they have to do, like kind of

527
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: early to navigate the changes and with a new persons.

528
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Speaker 3: Will play, will not turn over the football the obvious things.

529
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Speaker 3: I'm not telling anything you don't know, but their schedule

530
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: early on is so loaded. There are so many good

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Speaker 3: teams that they play against. But it's a little bit

532
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: like playing golf. I love when people say, no, boy,

533
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: there's such a tough course. Yeah, there are courses that

534
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: are tougher than others. But here's the deal. If you're

535
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: playing well and you're hitting good shots, I don't really

536
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 3: care where you're playing, like you're gonna do okay yea.

537
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: And I kind of feel the same way about the

538
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: Jets or any other team. Like the schedule can be

539
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: daunting and brutal, but if you're playing well and you're

540
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: racking up wins, you don't care who you're playing against.

541
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Speaker 3: Bring anybody on. And so they have to play good football,

542
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: fundamental football, sound football, turnover free football. They do that,

543
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: they'll be fine, and it'll take a little time for

544
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Speaker 3: the communication to develop Rogers and Garrett Wilson, Rogers and

545
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Speaker 3: the running backs, Rogers and the offense. I got it.

546
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Speaker 3: It will It's gonna take a little bit of time,

547
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Speaker 3: but I think that they think that it could be

548
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Speaker 3: expedited because of Rogers' experience in this system, and he's

549
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: putting some work with the players and we'll see if

550
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Speaker 3: it can be.

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Speaker 1: How do you think they're going to handle the external

552
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: spotlight one Jets Drive. The internal production team does a

553
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: fantastic job covering the Jets. That Hard Knocks has added

554
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: to the equation this year, and the lights are brighter

555
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: on the Jets.

556
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But to me, it's just noise, and I think

557
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: we live in a world where there is so much noise.

558
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: And here's the bottom line. Again, I don't mean to

559
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: oversimplify it. If the Jets win, they're going to ruin

560
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: New York. If they struggle, they're gonna be criticized. That

561
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: is true of any NFL team in any NFL city.

562
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Speaker 3: We're doing a Jets podcast today, but if I were

563
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: doing this in Buffalo or New England or Miami, the

564
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: answer would be the same. Because of the day and

565
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: age that we live in because there are so many

566
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Speaker 3: voices out there, because there are so many media outlets

567
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Speaker 3: out there, because there is a rush to rip somebody

568
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Speaker 3: or have the hot take. If they they're going to

569
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 3: hear it, they know that I don't have to say that. Yeah,

570
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: and if they're playing well and they're winning, they'll be

571
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Speaker 3: kings in New York.

572
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about you real quick.

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Speaker 1: What kind of advice would you give somebody who wants

574
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Speaker 1: to get in the industry Because you've been doing it

575
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: at an elite level for decades and your platform, you have.

576
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: Such an outstanding reach.

577
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that somebody's going to be common another

578
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: they're Adam Schefter, But what kind of advice do you

579
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Speaker 1: give young inspiring journalists who are going to get in

580
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the sports media business.

581
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a different business today and there are so

582
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: many different ways. So when I get asked this by

583
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Speaker 3: college kids, you know, for advice, and I love to

584
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: talk to young kids and do it often and have

585
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: done it often. What I would just say is, when

586
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: you go to college, there are four summers that you get.

587
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: And I didn't do this. Other people did. I didn't,

588
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: but I wish that I had taken every one of

589
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: those summers as an opportunity to try out something new,

590
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: intern somewhere else, meet other people, see how they do

591
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: a job, build out my resume that much more to

592
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: anybody that's trying to get into the field. Go do things,

593
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: Go try things. You know, if you wanted to work

594
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: for the New York Jets, I don't care if you're

595
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: the person who gets a job dusting the mailroom or

596
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: cleaning the bathrooms, it doesn't matter me Get in the

597
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: building and then be the best mailroom duster or bathroom

598
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: cleaner there is and get the attention of everybody. You

599
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: just want to get in somewhere and make yourself indispensable

600
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: doing whatever it is. And you get four cracks in

601
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: college for summers to do those kinds of things. You

602
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: get opportunities during the college years to go work at

603
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: a student newspaper, a student TV station, a student radio station,

604
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: a student YouTube channel, whatever it may be. Mean, it's

605
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: a different world, there's so many different things. Go do things,

606
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: Go try things, Go experience things. Right, So as long

607
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: as you're doing those things like that, like I love

608
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: people who you know they finish college and say I

609
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: want to be in sports, Well, did you do anything

610
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: in sports when you're in college. No, okay, well, I'm

611
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: not gonna say you can't do it, because you can,

612
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: but your road is just that much longer and harder

613
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Speaker 3: as opposed to getting some of those experiences while you're

614
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Speaker 3: in school. I think. I mean, that's that's my two cents.

615
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: Everybody has their own two cents as to how to

616
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: do something. But I think that that's true of anybody,

617
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: whether they want to be in finance or law, business

618
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: or sports or media. Just go do things, try things.

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Speaker 1: Hearing good things about your Michigan Wolverines this.

620
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Speaker 3: Year, we'll see couture in the first four games.

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Speaker 1: A lot of players is going to be drafted from

622
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Speaker 1: this Dame.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say this. I had somebody at the

624
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 3: school tell me recently. They said, last year Georgia had

625
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: fifteen players drafted in the NFL, and George's won two straight.

626
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: NA Michigan thinks he's gonna have seventeen or eighteen players drafted.

627
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Speaker 2: That's crazy. Nice job.

628
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: He's done a great job.

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Speaker 2: Since you are.

630
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Speaker 1: The ultimate NFL insider, let's on here, Dlvin Cook. A

631
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Speaker 1: lot of Jets fans are very interested in him and

632
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Speaker 1: his whereabouts where do you think the ultimately lands.

633
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: Well, we're taping this Sunday afternoon, Yes, yes, we are

634
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon. So who knows what team suffers what injury

635
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: during the week that could change the equation. But on

636
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: a flat level playing field, I think he'd like to

637
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: play in New York. I think he wants to play

638
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers wants to play with him.

639
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: But they're a part of money, and so does Dalvin

640
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: Cook give in some there? Does he not? Did the

641
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: Jets give in some there? Do they not? You know?

642
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: To me, Dalvin Cook for the Jets is a luxury

643
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 3: type of item, and so I've always thought it would

644
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: be the AFC East. The Jets in Miami make the

645
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: most sense. And we'll see. Like I said, a team

646
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: could lose a running back to injury anytime this week

647
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: and that could totally shift the equation. But as it

648
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: stands today Sunday afternoon, Jets in Miami make the most sense.

649
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: See how shakes out.

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Speaker 1: He grew up a Jets fan on Long Island. That's

651
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Speaker 1: senior NFL insider for ESPN. Adam Schefter had fun as always.

652
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Speaker 1: Thank you for finally coming up to the studio.

653
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Speaker 3: We've done a lot of these over the years. It

654
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Speaker 3: seems like I think I've done more of you than

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Speaker 3: I think any other social media team out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I've always had on doing

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Speaker 2: it too.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and likewise M