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Speaker 1: Welcome it everybody. Thursday edition of Clay and Buck, just

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Speaker 1: a couple of days before Christmas Week. Very exciting for

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Speaker 1: all of us out there who celebrate, and happy holidays

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Speaker 1: to everyone. We've got big news today. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: that it might be a bit of a lull, and

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Speaker 1: then the CR turned into quite a battle. The Continuing Resolution,

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Speaker 1: Iev john What are they calling it? The cramnibus? I

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Speaker 1: think bill, so there could be an omnibus bill. Whi's

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Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying, spend everything you can possibly

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Speaker 1: cramnibus is because they're trying to cram this thing through

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Speaker 1: at the very end. But it turns out that Elong

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Speaker 1: and Trump and others and Vivek have decided that this

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Speaker 1: is unacceptable. And the more people find out about what

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Speaker 1: is in this Continuing Resolution, the more pressure there is

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Speaker 1: on Speaker Johnson to do something about it. Now, keep

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Speaker 1: in mind, the House is just we all know how

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Speaker 1: our system works. The House is one tier. Also has

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Speaker 1: to go through the Senate. Also would have to be

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Speaker 1: signed by President Biden, who have to I feel like Clay,

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Speaker 1: do you feel listening too? I have to remind myself

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Speaker 1: that he is still the president. I'm astrett ready to

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Speaker 1: start just saying, oh, you know, President Trump is going

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Speaker 1: to deal with this as though it's already happened, but

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is still technically the president, Which brings me

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Speaker 1: to the story the Wall Street Journal has where now

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Speaker 1: it is safe to discuss that everybody knew we had

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Speaker 1: We should definitely talk about that as well, all of

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Speaker 1: the signs. Yes, sir, I was.

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Speaker 2: Just gonna say, we told everybody these stories would be

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Speaker 2: coming out about Biden. We told And I'll just say

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the Fanny Willis stuff. We are on

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Speaker 2: a run between the two of us, because sometimes we've

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Speaker 2: been on opposite sides of things, but we're on a

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Speaker 2: run of almost flawless predictive power here as we finish

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Speaker 2: off twenty twenty four, almost everything we've told you guys

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Speaker 2: was gonna happen has happened.

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Speaker 1: The Biden pardon of Hunter, Fannie Willis qualification. I will

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Speaker 1: just throw this out there. You know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that are doing political online betting these days

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck were united on an issue that is

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Speaker 1: a prediction. I would wager we've got a ninety to

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Speaker 1: ninety five percent accuracy right on this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm just what have we gotten this year? You know,

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Speaker 2: it's this is your last show of the year, so

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Speaker 2: something to think about during the course of today. I'm

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and then look, we've got specials that are going

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Speaker 2: to be out there that haven't been a great guest

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Speaker 1: I mean, the show is going to be great next week.

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Speaker 1: I got a great guest host, Brett Winterbules coming in

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Speaker 1: next week. We're doing a Christmas Eve special. That's it's

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Speaker 1: not just like ah, like you're not going to be

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Speaker 1: listening to us, you know, talk about Election Night or something.

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Speaker 1: It's fresh content, cool stuff that's meant for you to

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Speaker 1: listen to. So we want to be clear. The show

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, what have we gotten wrong?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you guys out there an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to weigh in in twenty twenty four this calendar year.

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Speaker 2: What have both of us gotten wrong?

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've lost price picks, picks, I've lost

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Speaker 2: gambling picks. But I mean, like in terms of big

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Speaker 1: But yes, generally we've been spot on. So we're taking

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Speaker 1: a Hunter Byden. Now I know that was an obvious prediction,

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Speaker 2: And even on the betting markets, buck you could have

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Speaker 1: So they've pulled everybody who has been running this case

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Speaker 1: The whole thing was a disaster. Court of Appeals looked

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Speaker 1: I thought that this was okay, but they said that

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Speaker 2: This case is over. Is the big takeaway in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And I understand some of you have gotten confused because

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Speaker 2: it has been complicated. This was a state case, Georgia,

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Speaker 2: So they also, as we conclude, I'm reading from the

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Speaker 2: meaning this case cannot occur in Fulton County. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: That was the Georgia election interference racketeering case. The only

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Speaker 2: Trump has won an impressive series of victories here. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we knew New York was rough, just because of

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes people will overstate these things when they

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Speaker 1: of that. But Clay, it's a great run of victories

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Speaker 1: So everything we've talked about he had dementia, and the

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Speaker 2: They I don't know when these people are all going

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Speaker 2: we just point out, look, I just got back from Israel.

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Speaker 5: the President and everyone on Capitol Hill can hit the

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Speaker 5: ground running delivering on the promises that the American people

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Speaker 5: want President Trump to deliver on, like border security, tackling inflations,

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Speaker 5: energy independence, and ending the wars abroad.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Caroline Levitt, the next White House Press Secretary.

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Speaker 1: All right, these are big stories.

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Speaker 2: Fanny Willis certainly what's going on with the bill that

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Speaker 2: would set sort of the budget. But here's an important question.

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Speaker 2: You're a new mom. You are going to be moving

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Speaker 2: to Washington, d C. What is it like to be

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Speaker 2: preparing to take a brand new government to Washington, DC

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Speaker 2: while having a newborn and having to find a place

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Speaker 2: to live. Like I'm actually just genuinely curious. Do you

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Speaker 2: go to d C? Do you have any idea where

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Speaker 2: you're going to live? What's that process? Because there's lots

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Speaker 2: of people like you who are going through their own

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Speaker 2: personal life challenges while they're serving the country.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a challenging time. It's a busy time, it's

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Speaker 5: an exciting time. I'm so excited to get to work,

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Speaker 5: so honored that President Trump chose me to be his

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Speaker 5: Press secretary. I'm really looking forward to getting to work.

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Speaker 5: On day one, I am moving down there. Baby is

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Speaker 5: coming with me. He's going to be a city boy,

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Speaker 5: whether he knows it or likes it or not. We

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Speaker 5: found a safe place to live, which I'm grateful for,

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Speaker 5: and so it's going to be a new family adventure

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Speaker 5: and I'm looking forward to it very much. I've gotten

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Speaker 5: some great advice from my predecessors, Kayleie mc nanny and

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Speaker 5: Sarah Sanders, both of whom were working moms in this role,

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Speaker 5: and I will take their words of wisdom with me

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Speaker 5: as I try to navigate this very high pressor stressful

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Speaker 5: job with being a first time mom. But my son

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Speaker 5: is a great boy. He's finally sleeping through the night.

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Speaker 5: He knows cannot be up three times a night before

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Speaker 5: taking the podium, so he's being a good boy and

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Speaker 5: he's getting his sleep, so I can too.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, There's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk about reorienting or reorganizing the White House Press briefing room.

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Speaker 2: How much time has been spent on that and how

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Speaker 2: much different do you think it might look in terms

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Speaker 2: of the credentialed organizations, in terms of who's there.

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Speaker 5: Nobody cares about press transparency and access more than Donald Trump.

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Speaker 5: He saw that this week when he did a nearly

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Speaker 5: ninety minute press conference at mar A Lago taking question

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Speaker 5: from members of the legacy media. We respect that and

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Speaker 5: honor the tradition of the White House, but we also

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Speaker 5: recognize there are new voices that need to be in

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Speaker 5: that room, and so we're exploring our options to figure

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Speaker 5: out exactly and logistically how we can make that happen.

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Speaker 5: We'll have announcement soon. It's going to be exciting, and

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Speaker 5: I look forward to ensuring that. You know, it's my

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Speaker 5: job to work with the American people and to message

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Speaker 5: President Trump's message to them as effectively as I can.

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Speaker 5: So finding new ways to do that is going to

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Speaker 5: be a lot of fun. And I think the American

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Speaker 5: people are going to like what they see incoming.

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Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary of Caroline Lovitt, Caroline, before we

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Speaker 1: let you go, we gotta we gotta ask you this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna become. This is a tough one. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say that, We're gonna ask you a tough one.

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Speaker 1: Favorite Christmas movie, favorite Christmas tradition, or favorite Christmas you know, drink?

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Speaker 1: Or food?

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I mean I could answer all three questions.

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Speaker 5: Favorite movie Home alone, because I'm a nineties kid, so

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Speaker 5: of course it's such an epic movie. Favorite food, I

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Speaker 5: mean all of them. All everything we eat this time?

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Speaker 1: Are you pro or anti eggnog?

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Speaker 5: Pro eggnog?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: We get some heat on that.

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Speaker 5: Anti eggnog. I don't know. I can't trust people who

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Speaker 5: don't like it. It's great, great, I hear you can

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Speaker 5: answer too much of it. Just a little taste this

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Speaker 5: time of year is all you need.

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Speaker 2: There we go, do you have I know, Buck said

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Speaker 2: last question, But you know, I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: know this for sure, Caroline, Buck is having his baby.

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Speaker 1: He and the lovely Carrie and April.

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Speaker 2: Given that, yes, it's very exciting, given that you now

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Speaker 2: have your son sleeping through the night. I've tried to

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Speaker 2: give Buck advice. He has no idea what he's walking into.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have a boy too. What would you

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Speaker 2: tell him? You wish you had known that you have

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Speaker 2: learned since you had a new boy, you.

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Speaker 5: Gotta get him in the crib early. It was a

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Speaker 5: mistake I made. I let the kids sleep with me

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Speaker 5: in the bed. He would come on it and snuggle.

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Speaker 5: They tell you not to do that, but I couldn't

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Speaker 5: help it. And finally I put my foot down, and

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Speaker 5: now he loves his crib and he's a professional sleeper.

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Speaker 5: And I wish I had done it earlier because I

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Speaker 5: would have saved myself a lot of very long and

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Speaker 5: exhausting days. So that's my advice to you, Buck. But

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Speaker 5: I am here for you. You know how to reach me.

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Speaker 5: You're walking into a very challenging time, but the best

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Speaker 5: time ever, so rewarding, is so fun, and I'm so

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Speaker 5: happy for you.

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Speaker 1: King grass is great. I got the White House Press

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Speaker 1: Secretary in one breath telling me congratulate relations get ready

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Speaker 1: for what's coming your way, buddy. Okay, get your.

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Speaker 5: Sleep now, I get your yeah, because you're going to

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Speaker 5: lose it.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Caroline, thank you for giving us your insight

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Speaker 1: on what's going on here. And we look forward to

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Speaker 1: talking to you more and maybe we'll be seeing you

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Speaker 1: in the White House at some point too, chatting you

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Speaker 1: up a little bit about everything going on. Thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: would love that.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's a special edition of Clay and Buck this Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 2: Clay with a fantastic guest live from Jerusalem and Buck

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Speaker 2: throwing down some holiday history.

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Speaker 1: You won't want a miss. Find them on the iHeart

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck.

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Speaker 2: I got an audio clip that I want to play

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Speaker 2: for you, and I got to give credit to Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: who is not having a good season as the New

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Speaker 2: York Jets quarterback. Frankly, nobody associated with the Jets is

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Speaker 2: having a good season. I'm sorry for our wor listeners

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Speaker 2: out there who came in with some optimism in the

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Speaker 2: Jets season. But he did say this the other day

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Speaker 2: on ESPN. This is from Pat McAfee's show, and he said,

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Speaker 2: you know how they will have like your credentials on

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Speaker 2: the screen. When you're a media analyst, it might say,

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Speaker 2: you know, Buck Sexton of the Clay and Buck Show,

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Speaker 2: or Clay Travis Clay and Buck Show might say OutKick,

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Speaker 2: like whatever your credentials are. When Aaron Rodgers is on ESPN,

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Speaker 2: pretty good credentials. Super Bowl MVP and four time NFL MVP,

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Speaker 2: I think is on the screen. So when he's talking

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Speaker 2: about playing quarterback, you might not agree with him, but

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Speaker 2: it's like, boom, here are my credentials. He said he

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Speaker 2: wants everybody in media to have to say how many

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Speaker 2: COVID shots they've gotten, and then you can just look

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Speaker 2: at that and determine how much credence or credibility you

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Speaker 2: want to give to it and Honestly, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you can come up with another one. But in

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Speaker 2: this era, you know, I don't really use where you

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Speaker 2: went to college as a proxy for how intelligent you are,

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Speaker 2: or even if you went to college, if you're like

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk or or Jeff Bezos and you found companies

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Speaker 2: like I do give a lot of credit to that.

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Speaker 1: That's not easy to do.

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Speaker 2: But if you told me you can only know one

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Speaker 2: thing about everybody on television talking about any issue under

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Speaker 2: the sun, knowing how many COVID shots they got, actually

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Speaker 2: is not an awful idea. Here's Aaron Rodgers making the case.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 7: I know I got to say this multiple times for

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Speaker 7: people because they don't listen. But say whatever you want

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Speaker 7: about me, I don't care. But just before you do it,

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Speaker 7: whether you state your name, your accolades, pronouns, whatever it is,

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Speaker 7: just state your vack sets so that anything you say

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Speaker 7: afterwards gets put in the right light. Just get it

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Speaker 7: out there, because then when you say things about me,

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Speaker 7: people can at least be like, oh, you are captured

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Speaker 7: by the multi billion dollar propagandis and you're still upset

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Speaker 7: about it. Just so everybody knows where you're coming, everybody knows. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 7: you're twice vax Maderna with three booster shots and then boom,

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Speaker 7: say what you want to say, whatever, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's kind of genius. Doesn't that tell

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Speaker 2: you a great deal in the wake of COVID about

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Speaker 2: how much?

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Speaker 1: For you and me?

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Speaker 2: I think it would tell everybody? For us personally, I

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Speaker 2: think it tells you a lot. Wouldn't that impact how

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Speaker 2: you would consider someone's opinion on a variety of subjects.

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Speaker 1: It's perfection. He's a very shrewd fellow. It's a brilliant

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Speaker 1: test and I totally agree with his assessment here, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would love to know. I mean, for example, the

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Speaker 1: craziest people in the media were the last one still

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Speaker 1: saying things like I've gotten my seventh booster but remember

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Speaker 1: you're boy.

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Speaker 2: Scarborough was like, I would have been really sick with

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Speaker 2: COVID if I hadn't already had eight shots. Do you

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Speaker 2: remember when we remember playing that clip like if you

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Speaker 2: got more than two? Like maybe if you're eighty five,

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Speaker 2: like my dad's eighty, my mom is eighty two eighty

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 1: Can I can I tell you? I go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I maybe understand you getting more

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Speaker 2: than two shots for anyone that is younger than fifty.

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Speaker 2: If you got more than two COVID shots, I don't

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Speaker 2: trust your opinion on anything, honestly, because you were just

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Speaker 2: a sheep and you were just bleeding your way to

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Speaker 2: go to the pharmacist and just keep getting shot up

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Speaker 2: with a worthless shot.

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually brilliant.

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Speaker 2: If I found out that you got five COVID shots,

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking your opinion on anything seriously.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a sound policy. Also, if you are

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Speaker 1: not angry about mask and I mean angry about masks mandates,

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Speaker 1: not even that you didn't think they were necessarily a

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Speaker 1: great idea. If you don't think that mask mandates were

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Speaker 1: a moronic and tyrannical and pointless epidemiologically, although very useful

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Speaker 1: for control reasons, I don't trust some. I don't trust

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Speaker 1: someone's judgment on matters of policy or life who does

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Speaker 1: not see what a catastrophe the whole mask thing was

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Speaker 1: and what an absolute disgrace to the whole public health

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Speaker 1: universe it was. And I also note doctors who still

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Speaker 1: kind of be like, well, I'm a doctor, and so

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Speaker 1: I you're not a very smart doctor. I don't care

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Speaker 1: where he went to school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And I've made hiring decisions where I've

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Speaker 2: been more likely by far to hire somebody at my

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Speaker 2: companies based on whether you were like, hey, I didn't

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Speaker 2: get a COVID shot. In fact, I'm kind of impressed

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Speaker 2: when people say, hey, because of where I lived, I

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Speaker 2: went and got a fake COVID vaxcard.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that a bunch from people in our industry.

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Speaker 1: I've never wanted to low anyone up on this, obviously,

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Speaker 1: because technically it's very illegal. I knew so many people

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Speaker 1: who had fake COVID cards, so many people who had

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Speaker 1: fake COVID cards. That's all I could say. That's all

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Speaker 1: I can say about again, not gonna blow even under duress, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I would not name names, but uh, yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people had fake COVID shot cards in New York City.

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to give you the first two shots because

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Speaker 1: again I understand not everybody did the math and and

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Speaker 1: understood things well, and it's easy to fall into hype.

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Speaker 1: But after the first two shots didn't work, if you

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Speaker 1: went and got a booster I can't trust your opinion

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Speaker 1: on anything. It's basically an intelligence test, and god forbid

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Speaker 1: you got.

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Speaker 2: More than one booster, you are a moron. And if

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Speaker 2: you're in the opinion business, I can't trust your opinion

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Speaker 2: on anything. So I give credit to Aaron Rodgers. I

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Speaker 2: had never thought of this before, But if you had

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Speaker 2: to come on and say, hey, I'm so and so

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Speaker 2: I got six shots, I'd be like, yep, I'm not

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Speaker 2: even listening to anything else after that.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is why, to be fair, we've had a

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Speaker 1: version of this test that we've discussed on the show

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Speaker 1: for a while, which pertains to politicians, public figures, and

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Speaker 1: how somebody acted throughout the fullness you know, the entirety

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Speaker 1: of COVID was the perfect simulation of what their judgment

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Speaker 1: is like, their level of honesty, their level of courage

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Speaker 1: or lack of all of those things as somebody who

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Speaker 1: has power in public life. So, whether it's politicians, you know,

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Speaker 1: CDC people, doctors, hospital administrators, you got to run the

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Speaker 1: perfect stress test on whether somebody has reasonable, decent judgment

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Speaker 1: and can process new information or not. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, dude, I've already told you I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of the Aaron Rodgers team. He was on I know,

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Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers, and I'm like, I know that,

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Speaker 1: but didn't you play for another team too, didn't you

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Speaker 1: go to the Jets or something? He's on the Jets

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Did you intro with the when I said, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Jets fans, that's been a rough season for you bad. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he was a Green Bay Packer.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was tired.

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Speaker 2: No, he's like forty years old and not had a

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Speaker 2: good season tour his achilles tendon last year. And if

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Speaker 2: you're out there and you're saying, why is Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: talking about that status, it's because he refused to get

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Speaker 2: the COVID shot and everybody in the sports media ripped

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Speaker 2: him to the high heavens as if he were Typhoid

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Speaker 2: Mary out there trying to kill everyone. And so he

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Speaker 2: still hasn't forgotten about it. He's a grudge guy, which

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Speaker 2: I get a lot of people use grudge in sports,

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Speaker 2: grudges as a method to fire themselves up. But that

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Speaker 2: discussion on ESPN, I actually I hadn't thought about it before,

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Speaker 2: But can you think of a better way in the

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Speaker 2: last four years for a media member to immediately tell

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Speaker 2: you something and then you decide whether or not you

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Speaker 2: believe him. Look, they're Democrats out there that I think

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Speaker 2: voted for Kamala Harris that are not total morons. They're

725
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Speaker 2: just committed to their team and they're willing to do it.

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Speaker 2: So voting status, I'm not to me how many COVID

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Speaker 2: shots you got is actually far more dispositive than who

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Speaker 2: you voted for.

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Speaker 1: You know, as I was kind of sad, you know,

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Speaker 1: just sitting there fortunately drinking my Crocket Coffee Best Coffee

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Speaker 1: the screen this morning, and Carrie is such a such

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Speaker 1: a patient and loving wife that she she lets me

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Speaker 1: flip on this morning Joe sometimes even though she's just

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Speaker 1: she feels like it's she can't take it. She's like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go to it. No, she goes and takes

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Speaker 1: Ginger for a walk. I've realized though, what the deal

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Speaker 1: is with him and a lot of others like him.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a cartel lawyer, you know, like a

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Speaker 1: lawyer for the cartels. They'll do anything and say anything

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Speaker 1: because this is the job and that's it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if they got to bend the rules and be dishonest

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Speaker 1: and whatever. Fine, whatever he's got to do, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. No, there's no ethos, honor, or integrity

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Speaker 1: in this. It's just making a buck. And if you

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Speaker 1: have to look like a jackass a lot of the time,

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Speaker 1: that's the job. So I don't even think it bothers him. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think he's at that level of media sociopath where

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Speaker 1: just say whatever you know. So the good news is,

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Speaker 1: don't have to feel bad for Miss Holidays. He's at

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Speaker 1: him or Mica. I wonder if they're gonna have dinner

752
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Speaker 1: with Trump again. Probably. I wonder if eventually he decides

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Speaker 1: to go. I mean, it depends on what that contract

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Speaker 1: looks like. From an MSNBC. Do I think that if

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Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough got an opportunity to become center right at

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Speaker 1: News Nation or Newsmax. I don't think Fox would ever

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Speaker 1: pick him up. But you know, some other network possibly

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Speaker 1: that would view him as star. News Nation wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: too crazy, I think as a possibility. Well, do I

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Speaker 1: think that all of a sudden he would go right

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Speaker 1: of center if that's where he thought the audience the

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Speaker 1: money was. Absolutely, I mean I would place bets on

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Speaker 1: it absolutely. I mean he would yeah, go, go, go

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Speaker 1: the Chris Cuomo routine. Well, all of a sudden, you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe I needed to be more of a

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. True stories all around. Well, take

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Speaker 1: some of your calls, but we haven't gotten to calls yet.

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Speaker 1: We are joined by Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky. Senator

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Speaker 1: Paul Merry, Christmas Surf, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's dive right into this. What is going on

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Speaker 1: with this continuing resolution? Can you bring us up to

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Speaker 1: with where it stands now and just your overall assessment

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Speaker 1: of the whole situation.

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Speaker 6: Well, have to put things into context. We have a

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Speaker 6: government now that borrows two trillion dollars a year, So

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Speaker 6: if we continue the spending a continued resolution at current levels,

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Speaker 6: they'll borrow another two trillion at least next year. So

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Speaker 6: a vote to continue the current spending is actually a

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Speaker 6: very big spending liberal notion, one that's not fiscally conservative.

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Speaker 6: So I wi't support continuing the current levels. But it's

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Speaker 6: worse than that. Speaker Johnson has said also, we're going

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Speaker 6: to add one hundred billion dollars in disaster money, and

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Speaker 6: it's worse than that. He then went to the big

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Speaker 6: farm states with big spending Republicans and they said, we

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Speaker 6: need another thirty billion dollars in farm subsidies to make

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Speaker 6: up for the income we lost from the tariffs and

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Speaker 6: first Trump administration. So you've got thirty billion for farmers,

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Speaker 6: one hundred billion for disaster, but then also the current

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Speaker 6: level of spending, which is two trillion dollars short. So

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Speaker 6: if the Speaker had a spy and what he would

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Speaker 6: have done has come forward with a bill of cut spending,

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Speaker 6: cut spending, and see if you get the Conservatives to

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Speaker 6: go along with a bill that actually cut spending. But

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Speaker 6: instead he just added it and crammed it full of

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Speaker 6: pork and as a consequence, he has a rebellion now

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Speaker 6: with conservatives on both in both the House and the Senate,

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Speaker 6: and we're not going to vote for that.

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Speaker 2: So you floated this morning, Senator Merry Christmas. Appreciate you

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Speaker 2: coming on with us. Say hi to your family. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you're getting geared up for everything. Your wife's got

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Speaker 2: fantastic taste in radio. Last time I saw you both

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Speaker 2: was flying to d C. I think I know she's

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Speaker 2: probably listening to us right now. So you floated the

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Speaker 2: idea of having Elon Musk as the Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious what's the reaction been to that. And for

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Speaker 2: people out there who don't know the speaker doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to actually be in Congress, what would that impact be.

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Speaker 1: What's the reaction been, you know, I.

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Speaker 6: Actually just learned this a couple of years ago. I

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Speaker 6: used to think it had to be a member of

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Speaker 6: the House, and I think it was in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 6: somebody actually put my name for it. I got one

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Speaker 6: vote for Speaker of the House. So I was the

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Speaker 6: first time somebody in the Senate actually got a vote

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Speaker 6: in the House. There have been votes for others. I

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Speaker 6: think Donald Trump one time got to vote a vote

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Speaker 6: or two in the House, so it can be somebody

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Speaker 6: outside the House. So I've floated Elon Musk because one

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Speaker 6: I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's biography, and here's a

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Speaker 6: guy who shows up. He's every days at work till midnight.

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Speaker 6: He's looking to cut costs so he can get satellites

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Speaker 6: into space at a cheaper price with less weight. He's

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Speaker 6: looking at costs on Tesla to make it profitable, and

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Speaker 6: he's been phenomenally successful. So whether or not they'd considered

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Speaker 6: as a serious proposal, it at least lets them know.

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Speaker 6: I am unhappy with what's going on now, and i'mhappy

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Speaker 6: with the lack of resolve. When I go in few

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Speaker 6: Republican groups around the country, they respond to me, is

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Speaker 6: you control the House? How come they don't do something

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Speaker 6: to control the power with a purse And it really

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Speaker 6: isn't that they get even half of it because they

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Speaker 6: have to compromise with the Senate. They control nothing. They

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Speaker 6: never put forward a proposal that is a Republican proposal.

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Speaker 6: They just say, well, what will the Democrats accept? And

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Speaker 6: that's what the the before there's even a negotiation, the

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Speaker 6: Republicans have always given in to whatever the Democrats want,

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Speaker 6: they'll get. But that's why the deficits two trillion dollars

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Speaker 6: and we have a trillion dollars in interest payments every year,

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Speaker 6: Senator Paul.

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Speaker 1: The headlines, of course, are doing what they normally do

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Speaker 1: from some of this. The media outlets you'd expect this from.

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Speaker 1: They're saying government shut down imminence, and everyone's supposed to

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Speaker 1: get so scared about this. What would happen if they

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Speaker 1: just didn't pass this cr Like, can you take us

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Speaker 1: through this? Because you know, even for people follow politics

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Speaker 1: pretty closely, which is certainly this audience, the logistics of this,

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Speaker 1: the realities of this aren't always that clear. What happens

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Speaker 1: if they don't do this?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, what I've proposed is legislation that would

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Speaker 6: keep the government open, but how to reduce hunding level.

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Speaker 6: There's still a lot of revenue that comes in. So

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Speaker 6: for example, this year, four trillion, little over four trillion

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Speaker 6: dollars will come in in revenue and they'll spend a

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Speaker 6: little over six trillion, So you don't really need to

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Speaker 6: borrow money for the first four trillion dollars worth of spending.

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Speaker 6: So we think under current law, the president could actually

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Speaker 6: prioritize the military, prioritize the salaries, prioritize our soldiers that

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Speaker 6: are in a harms way, prioritize vital functions of government.

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Speaker 6: And really that probably would occupy most of the four trillion,

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Speaker 6: and probably the rest of the government's actually superfluous anyway

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Speaker 6: beyond that, But I would say government wouldn't shut down.

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Speaker 6: The idea of government shutting down is a Democrat construct,

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Speaker 6: so they can always get what they want. Republicans are

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Speaker 6: scared of their shadow, so they never propose anything. So

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Speaker 6: I've been proposing for years a Government shut Down Protection Act.

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Speaker 6: And what would happen is for the first ninety days,

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Speaker 6: they would spend money at one percent less than last year.

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Speaker 6: If it goes on more than ninety days, it'd be

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Speaker 6: two percent less than last year. And then you would

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Speaker 6: go down and you would escalate down to bring prector

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Speaker 6: on spending. And then Democrats eventually compromise because they would

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Speaker 6: be horrified at the actual idea of reducing the debt

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Speaker 6: or reducing spending. They would finally come to the table.

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Speaker 6: But because the shutdown is perceived by Republicans as only

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Speaker 6: being a Republican caused event. Because the media is complicit

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Speaker 6: with it, the Republicans cave before they get started. As

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Speaker 6: a consequence, the way I view it, Republicans exert almost

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Speaker 6: as zero power of the purse.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you've been following the idea that Joe Biden might pardon

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Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci. If he does, what would your reaction be

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Speaker 2: if he does not? What does having control of the

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Speaker 2: Senate mean for doctor Fauci going forward? Given what you

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Speaker 2: have uncovered about Fauci in the past.

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Speaker 6: If he's pardoned, I think it seals his fate. And

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Speaker 6: his fate will that be that of someone who bears

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Speaker 6: a responsibility for a pandemic that killed fifteen million people?

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Speaker 6: It feels his faith because he's on public record as

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Speaker 6: having said the gain of function dangerous research is worth

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Speaker 6: the risk even if a pandemic should occur. That's literally

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Speaker 6: a paraphrase of an exact sentence that even if a

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Speaker 6: pandemic would occur, the knowledge is worth the risk. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's a terrible misjudgment of what we should

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Speaker 6: be doing in gain of function research. If he is

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Speaker 6: not pardoned. I still plan on referring him to the

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Speaker 6: new Attorney General, to the new Department of Justice with

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Speaker 6: a criminal referral for lying to Congress. The reason this

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Speaker 6: is still important and why I'm still trying to get

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Speaker 6: records from the NIH on this is because there was

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Speaker 6: some deliberation and someone there decided that the research was

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Speaker 6: safe to go on in Wuhan, and then it didn't

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Speaker 6: have to go before the Safety Committee. This is one

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Speaker 6: of the things I like about Elon. If you go

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Speaker 6: to one of his rockets and he sees a bolt

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Speaker 6: that's loose or rusted or doesn't seem to fit for

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Speaker 6: it correctly. And this is simplifying it obviously, but he

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Speaker 6: will say, who who's in charge of that person? A

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Speaker 6: person's name is attached to every three piece of equipment

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Speaker 6: on the rocket, so it isn't it I Reckon say, well,

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Speaker 6: a team of us decided and we're not sure who

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Speaker 6: the team leader was. We think it was the other team.

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Speaker 6: This is what goes on in government. There has to

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Speaker 6: be responsibility for it, and I think if you did,

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Speaker 6: you'd find a big change in things.

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul, what is in your mind the best way

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Speaker 1: that Doge can hit the ground running and work with

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Speaker 1: those on the Senate and House side who are serious

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Speaker 1: about tackling spending. I mean, what is that strategy? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you are talking to these guys a lot.

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Speaker 1: What does an effective strategy look like to start to

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Speaker 1: rein inan You mentioned accountability for everything on the rocket.

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Speaker 1: What about accountability for everything the federal government's doing?

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Speaker 6: Without question? You know, one thing I think the executives

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Speaker 6: could do is also similar to when Elon started bidding

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Speaker 6: on putting satellites up and building rockets. It turned out

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Speaker 6: that a lot of the big contractors, Boeing and Lockeye,

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Speaker 6: we're doing cost plus. So they'd been a trillion dollars

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Speaker 6: on something and it would cost two trillion, and then

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Speaker 6: they just get their ten percent of two trillion instead

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Speaker 6: of one trillion, So there's no disincentive for them. He

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Speaker 6: came in and started doing competitive contracts. So one of

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Speaker 6: the things I've heard him discuss is why don't we

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Speaker 6: have competitive contracts across all of government. Let's don't do

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Speaker 6: any cost plus contracts anymore. And so there is a

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Speaker 6: lot that can be done on contracting. There's some things

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Speaker 6: they can do on employment. And then there's also they're

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Speaker 6: going to have to send some money back. So if

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Speaker 6: they do things more efficiently, Let's say you ask them

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Speaker 6: to build a navy ship and you give them a

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Speaker 6: billion dollars, and you know, if you really had someone

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Speaker 6: like Younon Musk, you do it for eight hundred million.

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Speaker 6: And if he did a pre eight hundred million, what

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Speaker 6: do you do with the extra two hundred million. Now

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Speaker 6: some have talked about impounding it. I think there's going

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Speaker 6: to be some cool challenges if they do that. But

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Speaker 6: there's also something called recision. You send that two hundred

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Speaker 6: billion dollars back to Congress and to a simple majority vote,

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Speaker 6: a privileged vote. If we had reports plans, with enough

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Speaker 6: courage and gumps and to stick together on this, we get,

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Speaker 6: through a simple majority vote cut hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 6: So finding the waste is one thing. Actually cutting it

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Speaker 6: and sending it back to the treasure and never spending

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Speaker 6: it is more challenging, but it's not impossible if we

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Speaker 6: could get all Republicans to actually vote for spending cuts.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky as he

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Speaker 2: gets ready for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: You think with the nominees that Trump has put forward

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Speaker 2: as his cabinet, do you feel like everybody's going to

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Speaker 2: get confirmed? If not, where are the battles as you

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Speaker 2: see them sitting here getting ready for the start of January.

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Speaker 6: You know, I have to say, well, I don't always

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Speaker 6: agree with Donald Trump. When I do voice my differences

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Speaker 6: when they occur his cabinet, I've been an ecstatic about,

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Speaker 6: you know, ninety some point percent of it. Any of

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Speaker 6: the people I've said, these are people I would have picked.

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Speaker 6: You know, Marty McCarey at FDA, a brilliant physician in

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Speaker 6: Thurgeon from John Hopkins. Wonderful Jay Bataccharia for NIH, wonderful pick.

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Speaker 6: These guys have impeccable cvs and resumes twenty pages long.

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Speaker 6: Big academic universities. Dave Weldon at CDC, Robert Kennedy at HHS.

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Speaker 6: I'm met with Cash Pattel today at FBI. I think

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Speaker 6: he will institute reforms and try to get rid of

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Speaker 6: politicization of the FBI. There's, you know, just one after another.

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Speaker 6: I mean, really really good picks that I'm proud of.

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Speaker 6: Telsea Gabbard at d and I I think we need

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Speaker 6: to make sure that you know one that our intelligence

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Speaker 6: agencies aren't targetting America. She was actually targeted by the

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Speaker 6: Biden intelligence agencies and put on a terrorist list. That's

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Speaker 6: that's obscene. So he's a twenty year career military officer

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Speaker 6: with who's a lieutenant colonel, and some idiot in the

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Speaker 6: Biden administration has people following her on planes. So that

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Speaker 6: kind of stuff. I guess. I'm very hopeful that they

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Speaker 6: all get through. Some of them are seen as more

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Speaker 6: controversial than others, but I think there's a good chance

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Speaker 6: they all get At this point.

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul feels like a great time for this country,

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Speaker 1: considering the possibilities ahead and the Trump win and the

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Speaker 1: team and the focus coming in. So we just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you again for making the time for us,

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Speaker 1: for your incisive analysis and leadership in the Senate, and

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Speaker 1: a very merry Christmas to you and your family. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Sir, Absolutely, Merry Christmas, everybody.

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