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Speaker 1: Lute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to soft Rep Radio Special Operations, military mails

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Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of soft Rep Radio. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, Rad and I have a very special guest today,

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Speaker 1: Ranger Hall of Fame inducted in two thousand thirteen, Max Mullen.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Max. Well, thank you for them,

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Speaker 1: but I'm glad to be here. You know, I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate having you on the show. We tried to get

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Speaker 1: you back on a few months back and there was

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Speaker 1: some tech cold issues and we were able to circle

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Speaker 1: around and bring you back on the show. So again,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking the time out of your busy day.

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Speaker 1: I know, just off the top of my head, you

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Speaker 1: just got done with speaking at the Ranger graduation recently,

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Speaker 1: can you? Is that right? Yeah? Fronday was the Rangers

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Speaker 1: Rangers School graduation for class seven Dash twenty two, and

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Speaker 1: um it was. It was really good, uh believe it was.

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Speaker 1: It started out with three hundred and thirty original Rangers

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Speaker 1: and they graduated a hundred and sixty two so it

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Speaker 1: was through yeah, and so you know, it was so

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Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty two plus you have rangers who

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Speaker 1: it was something else, right, because you may have rangers

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Speaker 1: that were in training that may have received you know,

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Speaker 1: rangers have to you know, you get injured and they

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Speaker 1: with them. They may be hit with you know, injuries

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Speaker 1: or peers or the field patrols and they go before

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Speaker 1: board and the board you know, evaluates their infractions and

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Speaker 1: so they may be picked up with the next classes

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Speaker 1: have come through. But a lot of them are like injuries,

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Speaker 1: somebody getting you know, empatago or something like that. They

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Speaker 1: hold them over to the next class, catches up and

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Speaker 1: they move on through the course. Well that's amazing. So

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Speaker 1: you see this younger generation taking your slot. When you

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Speaker 1: were that younger generation, you were in during like the

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Speaker 1: serve joined the Army back in the nineteen six and

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Speaker 1: so basically the Vietnam War was just winding down. The

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Speaker 1: war officially ended that I believe in was in seventy five,

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Speaker 1: and I remember, I finally remember all the church bills

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Speaker 1: seventy six, it was different. The war just ended, and

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Speaker 1: the Army at that time was really really as shape,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you'd be a young h and year

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Speaker 1: old kid coming off the block, you know, joining and

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Speaker 1: So the company commander and all the opportunities, they just

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Speaker 1: when he became president. The army transformed just about overnight.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, the transformation. Oh yeah, and you appreciated that.

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Speaker 1: Now these are your mentors. These guys have been through

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Speaker 1: you know, black American, ever disrespect tune again, I will

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Speaker 1: then he said, don't gass enough. So I still like

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Speaker 1: need to put an eoka plaink man. Hell, he can't

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Speaker 1: So the pennis part for on the sword? So how long?

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Speaker 1: the first black Womanton tennis pro. He was a phenomenal musician.

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Speaker 1: Steph Starting Sherry, a Black Special Forces green beret. And

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Speaker 1: and I said, I could see myself in your boots,

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Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, that's what you call a spit shine,

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Speaker 1: stood up at seventy four. Hey, this is rad with

425
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Speaker 1: Software Radio, and I just want to talk to you

426
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: about Brandon Webb and John david Man. Right, Okay, these

427
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: two guys have been hammering out books and they just

428
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Speaker 1: brought you a new one with Cold Fear. That's right.

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Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling authors Brandon Webb and John David

430
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Speaker 1: Mann have just put out Cold Fear. It is the

431
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Speaker 1: Adventures of Finn the Navy Seal. You gotta check it out.

432
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Read that book. I think it's gonna come out on audible.

433
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: So Brandon Webb, John David Mann props. I was signed

434
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Speaker 1: a hundred in first Airborne when I left Korea. So

435
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: when I was the hunting first Airborne, I was sitting

436
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: around and I said, you know what, it gotta be

437
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: something vincent, just remember. So then I got the information

438
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: from chronic Captain McKnight on the pre records on Hunna

439
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: apply from Range School. So I put seven. I took

440
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: the airyone p T test. You had to be a

441
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,239
Speaker 1: two time volunteer Airborne p T tests. And also then

442
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: I took the Ranger p T tests and so I

443
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: came down the Nordens and went to Fort Benn in

444
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: Georgia with the Airborne School. And then it was created.

445
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Speaker 1: When I graduated Airborne School, I made E five at

446
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: at Fort Campbell right, so the E five and I

447
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: went straight. I was supposed to go straight to Ranging School,

448
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: and so I told the Airborne starts saying, look, I

449
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: put the start Ranging school next week. At that time,

450
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: the only one s had pre ranger was First Ranging

451
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: betid the secret betwin the pre pre ranger programs. But

452
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: all other serves and have pre ranger programs. So that's

453
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Speaker 1: why you had this this d a pamphlet that tell

454
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Speaker 1: you all the pre requis that you must be proficient

455
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Speaker 1: in skill level one and Skill level two tasks that

456
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: you should be proficient in prior to attended Ranging school.

457
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: So attended ranger. So I got to when I congraduate

458
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: Airborne school. They're putting us on the buses. The first

459
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: ranger said, hey, hey, sir, I'll started Ranging school next week.

460
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm able to stay all right, now, get on the

461
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: damn bus. So he maybe get on the bus and

462
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: go all the way to hunter Arm Airfield, report in

463
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: and do the first range of the time. We're out

464
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: there a saber hall and I remember this guy, Na

465
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: Serton Lamberca comes up to me. He said, what are

466
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: you doing here? Because if you steal, you put the

467
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Speaker 1: range qualified prior to going to the range of time.

468
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Speaker 1: I said, hey. I tried to tell him that I

469
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Speaker 1: started Ranging school next week, and they put me on

470
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Speaker 1: the bus. My class starts next week, and so Certain

471
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Speaker 1: Lamberca he was pissed off. He said, damn it. Now

472
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: we gotta watch the damn slot for you. I said, Certain,

473
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Speaker 1: why are you? Why are you sweating me? I mean,

474
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Speaker 1: it's not my father, I tried to tell him, and

475
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Speaker 1: so Certain Lamberca he he was pretty nasty towards me.

476
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: He said, well, we're gonna make it. We're gonna put

477
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Speaker 1: you through in a pre ranger. I said, no, no, no,

478
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: no no. I started next week. I got orders right,

479
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: so they had to put me on that bus and

480
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: I never forget this where he said, well you're probably

481
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: not gonna graduate anyway. I said, okay, they let the

482
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Speaker 1: fire in me. So I gotten in and uh yuh

483
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: I got to Fort Benning and what was crazy? Yeah,

484
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: it was like it was a shock. It was. It

485
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: was a shock ranging school back then you had to

486
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: infamous Morgan team. The first week, we probably got less

487
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: than six hours sleep and it was like ball crushing

488
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: for the first week. Steep deprivation, you know, food deprivation.

489
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Speaker 1: Everything started there and it was like chaos. And I

490
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: sent in with Helena, got myself into but I'm not

491
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna quit. So uh, you know, I made it through

492
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Speaker 1: the um, made it through Camp Derby. A Morgant team

493
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Speaker 1: made through Camp Derby, made it through the Florida phase

494
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: and Florida phases. When you're over hump, that's when you're

495
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: over the hump, and it was creating about Florida phase.

496
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Speaker 1: I remember it was raining one night, so damn hard

497
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: it rained on this for something like four days straight,

498
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: and the temperatures around sixty seventy degrees, and you lose

499
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Speaker 1: so much body fat, you do so much muscle mass

500
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Speaker 1: and body fat that you know, six degrees for like

501
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: you're freezing at death. And everything was damn wet. Everything

502
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: was wet. And every morning the new ranger start the

503
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: fresh range start to come in, the first words out

504
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Speaker 1: of his mouth says, all right, who wants to damn quit?

505
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: There's a bus right there, there's a truck right there,

506
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: the deuce. Just grab you stuff and get on. Who

507
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: wants to quit? I know you got somebody got a quit.

508
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: Who wants to quit? He's shaking, just looking all right,

509
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: who wants to quit? Hot? Chowing it back. Then you

510
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: see a couple of guys grabbed the ruck sacks and

511
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: all right up on the truck, throw the stuff on

512
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Speaker 1: a truck and trying to man, don't do it. Don't

513
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: do it, man, You're gonna regret it. Man, you know,

514
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: hell with this crap. I'm out of here. And so

515
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: then um, you see him get on there the ranging structure,

516
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: just hollow at it. So I get back on the

517
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: perimeter and clean your weapons and do your proities of work.

518
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: But just one particular night, we did an ambush and

519
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: we did uh yeah, ambush And we're moving to the

520
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: patrol base and my glasses all fogged up. It's dark.

521
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: You can't even see the range of eyes, and everything's dim.

522
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: And were across walking across this low dog this creek,

523
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: and I slipped and my left leg went up to

524
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Speaker 1: my crotching mud and I tried to get up, and

525
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: people walking over me, and I'm just about to lose it.

526
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm boady man to hell with this, I'm i here

527
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: and I remember ranger Kelso. He grabs it. Max. Don't

528
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Speaker 1: do it, man, come on, I got your buddy got you.

529
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Speaker 1: Don't don't do it. Don't do it, said man. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Well think about certain Kelso. Raja Kelso Raja Kelso fought

531
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Speaker 1: with the Rhodesian Scouts. He's starting at each second everyone.

532
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: He fought with the scouts and sell your scouts in

533
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Africa and did some combat jumpers, did some comback up

534
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: with those guys, came back join the army, went back

535
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: to the rangers, and so him and I ranger buddies.

536
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: He eventually went on to be RTV ranger training between

537
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Speaker 1: our command start major we served together in first bat

538
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Speaker 1: and he was inducted the Ranger Hall of Fame and

539
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: he's a Ranger legend, you know. Kelso and so um

540
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: I graduated got back the first bat Um. At that time,

541
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Yet that's the one going on. Remember

542
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: Charlie Company deployed. That's when you had the Iranian hostage

543
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: ships stuff, and it was crazy. But one thing about

544
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: the first raining between that time he had second bed

545
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: up there at Fort Louis, we very rarely really didn't

546
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: train it much together. You know, they had the West

547
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: coast specific we had the East coast, you know everything Germany, Mediterranean,

548
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: so forth. So we very west. The only thing we

549
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: had in common really was our history and lineage. We

550
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: we just didn't train because you didn't have the regiment

551
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: at that time, but because your theater operation is different

552
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: than the West coast theater of operation. Yeah, exactly, we were.

553
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: We fill Uner the Joints Chief of Staff at that time.

554
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: Delta was just standing up. You know, they had to

555
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: think going over between blue Light and Delta and Delta

556
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, they want the toss that I had, and

557
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: so everything was in its emphasy at that time. Then

558
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Desert one hit. I remember that Charlie Company was chosen

559
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: to go and they would disappear. You know, they do

560
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: all this training, and they took a couple of our

561
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: medics and everything and said, what the hell Charlie Company doing?

562
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: You know, had the gun jeeps and stuff, and uh,

563
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: they're doing something. They were doing something. And so then

564
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: they deployed. And then the next thing I know, you know,

565
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: there's a one hit you know it was it was

566
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: a disaster out there with a helicopter, the C night hit,

567
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: the m C one thirty. It was problems. When the

568
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: word go, everything just joined just it was a mess.

569
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: And I finally remember I was in the nightclub. I

570
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: just came from the night clup. I went up to

571
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: the day room to give him a mail, and it

572
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: was Charlie Company in the day room cleaning weapons. They

573
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: just got back from from Yemen. And I saw my

574
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: buddy Ranger Evans, you know, tall black brother, and I said, dude,

575
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: what happened? We were you guys? Yeah, man, we just

576
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: got back. Man we one man were I was at

577
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: the blocking position and man me and Ruez and man,

578
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: this um that this bus came up. We stopped at

579
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: this you know, they were out the middle of nowhere.

580
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: There's the one. This bus came up out all these

581
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: ranis on there, and we stopped him. And I got

582
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: onto the bus and it's surraining and was speaking English.

583
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Said who are you guys? And he said we're Nigerian commandos,

584
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: he said. Evan said, I told him we're Nigerian commandos,

585
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: and we ordered to get off the bus. If you

586
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: read ever read the book about Disney, there's the one

587
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: called the Guts to Try. You hear starting to Evans,

588
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, his name mentioned in there, and so Stan

589
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: said they got him off the bus, and so um yeah,

590
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden they saw this tanker

591
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: coming and they hit it with a law and with

592
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: a big old fireball, and the guy jumped out of

593
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: a tanker and got in his cab behind and it

594
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: took off. And so it was compromised. You got this

595
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: big this take up here in flame now something they

596
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: would getting ready to load the hostess is up, and

597
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that's when the heel hit the

598
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: helicopter and all hell broke loose, you know. And so

599
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: then from that moment on that the Rangers was transformed,

600
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: just spread overnight. A few months later, were deployed to

601
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: twenty nine Palms and we were doing training and uh

602
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: finally remember were doing reverse training because it's too damn

603
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: hot to do anything ain't doing the daytime, so we

604
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: just basically just rested the reverse trated that I was

605
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: training a night and uh, I remember our coming to community.

606
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: We had information out in the middle of the desert,

607
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: twenty nine bombs and he started laying the only websoe

608
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: everybody at the two or three and laid on this poncho.

609
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 1: Everybody got this weapon. Pompom boom boom boo. Lay him out.

610
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: Then they bought off some MP five's right, and they said, okay,

611
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: first tune you're gonna be jym clearing. Second, but tune

612
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: you're gonna be building clearing. Third but tune what weapons.

613
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: But tune you guys are going to um you know,

614
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: the fire support. And third but tune, you guys are

615
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna be um rolling on the bikes and so forth.

616
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: So we started training just air filled seizure hell mean day,

617
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: That's how we did. And so at the time, that's

618
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: when the range of return really started his transformation. And

619
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: so then um, after the first range of time, I

620
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: went back to Korea for my second tour and I

621
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to serve upen a d m Z.

622
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Right the DMZ minsitioned received the MP GYM scout badge

623
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: in between North and South Korea. Right absolutely, and it

624
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: was no joke. Uh. The units were deployer did real

625
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: rotate up there for I believe it was I want

626
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: to say thirty days. Thirty days they rotate the warrior

627
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: based tent city and they would conduct patrols and in

628
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: a demilitariz zone and we had two gar polls. Call

629
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: you an olette and so I had a sniper section.

630
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: At that time, the big thing was for designated riflemen

631
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and so I meant his remember especially forces Young Song.

632
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: They came a bunch of guys who especially Frost Young

633
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Song was part of the first group they came up

634
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: there and they trained the designated rifleman for each of

635
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: the battalions and brigades that to send representatives. So I

636
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: tended it. And so we're out there to Rig's range

637
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: complex and I remember the guy, one of the guys

638
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: who were instructor his name was startin first class Melvin McIntyre,

639
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: and I was sitting with Starting McIntyre. You know, after

640
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: he conducted our training. I said, hey, I heard you

641
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: with mcvisag. He said yeah, and he would tell me

642
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: all these tips of the trades of submissions he did,

643
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: and I suck it up like a sponge and literally

644
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: know that I would read about star McIntyre in last

645
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: year's book, you know, John McIntyre. So he wasn't influence

646
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: in my life. And so we my snipers section had

647
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: a section a olette and call here so we do

648
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: patrols into the DMZ have attached. But I wanted to

649
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: stay up there on garpost Olette. I stayed there the

650
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: whole month. I didn't even come down. I didn't come down.

651
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I stayed up there and what they rotated guys, and

652
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I remember I would peer out into North Korea. Look

653
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: at North Korea every day in propaganda village. You can

654
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: see the North Korean guards walking the fence. And at

655
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: nighttime here rump here, muffle rumblings, exposures. We had this

656
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: giant shipped to short binals. She had to turn it

657
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: where the direction we approperate direction we heard it and

658
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: we had to record an asthma and approximate distance reported,

659
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: you know to a hired and report eighth Army because

660
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: at that time, the North Korean was doing tunneling. They

661
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: were tunneling and they were finding these tunnels. They interdict

662
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: these tunnels, they shut them down, and the North Koreans

663
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: kept building tunnels. But the spookies thing about d m

664
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Z mission is at nighttime the fault would roll in

665
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: and that's when you would really puck her up. We

666
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: had to claim more minds off front. Every morning we

667
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: wake up, we had to check. We had to go

668
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: out there and check make sure there was no footprints

669
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: rake it. Because the North Koreans would always trying to

670
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: infiltrate through the American sector because they believe with the

671
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: most lacked sector, and they were pretty active during the summertime,

672
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, trying to swim through the mgym and so forth.

673
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: So I had the opportunity to serve on them, you know,

674
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: got me m Jim Scott badge. They turned over the

675
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: d m D mission to the Rocks. I believe in

676
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: ninety seven they gave it back over to the Rocks.

677
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Damn good mission, Damn good DMC mission yeah, Pam MoU

678
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: John right there. You had you were there, you see this,

679
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, be a part of history. So then after

680
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: I left Korea, I mean, yeah, it's a big deal

681
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: because just recently there was a guy that ran across

682
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: the d m Z, a soldier who just wanted to

683
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: get into American hands so that he could get out

684
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: of North Korea. That was like maybe five six years ago,

685
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: I think, and he got shot up by his uh.

686
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they're no joke. They're trying to kill him.

687
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: It's indeed, it's indeed trying to kill that guy. It's

688
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: no joke. It's it's the rumboy. They would drop propagenda leaflets.

689
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: They would say, hey, you know, make sure you turn

690
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: them into I got to many old school propagandas I'm

691
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: glad I kept him. And I remember on my my

692
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: second tour, my own to Salees my first tour. On

693
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: my first tour, it was a PFC. Danny White. He

694
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: was he was the first of the thirty first barricade

695
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: there put the d m Z and he walked across

696
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: the d MZA to the North Korean side right and

697
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: the whole divisions put on the division alert and he said, hey,

698
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: a soldier across over the North Korea. They thought he

699
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: was kidnapped. And so a week later we get these

700
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: propaganda leavelands being dropped all over the division area. And

701
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: it's still the picture of PFC White in North Korea

702
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: with a big old bluckhead flowers and all his equipment. Lad,

703
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: I would have pitched you on the tee. You know, come,

704
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, everything is greater in North Korea. Blah blah

705
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: blah blah. And that was crazy, you know, and the

706
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: life is really great before it comes, and so and

707
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: so it eventually happened, Um, hey, we have the same

708
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: ring tone, Bro, we have the same ring tone. Max.

709
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm looking for my phone. So it was like,

710
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: it's my phone, Max, and so what hen? I keep

711
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: looking for it too, Yeah, and so what what happened?

712
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: He was eventually kill So he's getting propaganda flowers and

713
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: they're making pictures of it with all his gear. Yeah yeah,

714
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: and so so that was pretty crazy. And they thrown

715
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: and floating the m Gym River something like ten years later,

716
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: they got all the propaganda at them they needed, and

717
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: then they found him floating m Gym ny. I think

718
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: it was from St. Louis. They send his buddy back

719
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: to his parents. So then um I left there. I

720
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: was assigned to the second range of Giant. I was

721
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: in the first batter was an up a company months

722
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: seven five, but this time I wanted to be in

723
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: b company to seven five, you know, and there a

724
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: fort no US had a lot of fun. That's when

725
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: we deployed to Grenado, Grenado, and that was really the transformation, right,

726
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: So what years this Now it's three to Brady three,

727
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: So you shuffle up, you get to call you you're

728
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: going to Grenada. Yeah, I was. I woke up Saturday morning,

729
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: get ready to go wash my car and at that

730
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: time and they said, oh, okay, the formation, and I said,

731
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: oh damn, here we go. And at that time what

732
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: happened was somebody let loose with the CS grenade at

733
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: the Crew out of Fair and the rangers got blamed

734
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: for it, you know. And before that, somebody shot up

735
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: a star cluster at the Tacoma Dome and it stuck

736
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: in their ceiling and rainers got blamed for it. And

737
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: so we thought it was punishment. So what they would

738
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: do to have to do road marchers for my road marches?

739
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Every week, every Saturday, unannounced, and I said, here we

740
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: go again another dayn road march. But this was different.

741
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: We had a formation. The first start came out and said, okay,

742
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: just stand by. You know, um, I don't know body

743
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: go anywhere. I said, we had another form. They say,

744
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: all right, start banning up your wahlockers, start banning the walllockers.

745
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: I said, damn, We've never banned wallockers before, so we're

746
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: thinking it's just an eadrie in emergency read in this drill.

747
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: So we banned the walllockers. And I remember there's still

748
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: they sail ry get you, get you your d bags.

749
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: See the bags, D bags ready, you know, put them on,

750
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: plotize them. So well, still just another etrie where eads

751
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: where emerged. You Ritish deployment where you fly out, conducted

752
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: mission and come back right, you know, you go through

753
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: all the in our sequence. You go out, you do

754
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: your training, you do the missions, then you come back

755
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: stand down boom, Hey all right, stand down boom. But

756
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: this was different. I remember I walked past the battalion

757
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: a station. I sawthing like shuffling real hard, and I said,

758
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: what's going on? I remember Dr Julio doctor Julio. He

759
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: went on to receive the Civil Star in Grenadom. I said,

760
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: what's up, Doc? He said, dude, we get we're going

761
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: to war. I said, what do you mean we're going

762
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: to war. We're drawing morphine. I said, no way to say. Yeah,

763
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean we're drawing morphing. And I'm still thinking it's

764
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: just the dri And so the next thing I know,

765
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: eighteen Civilicides pulled up and the whole battalion loaded up,

766
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: went to McCord and we flew from McCord and see

767
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: one forty ones all the way to Hunter Army Airfield.

768
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: And when we landed and on friends went down. I

769
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: saw a row a C one thirties, see one thirties,

770
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: I think a m C one thirty. All this activity,

771
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: you know, palettes, a lot of activity and stuff. I said,

772
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: this signal, damn Adrian. We they put us up a

773
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: tips tent city, right, we're going. And so we started

774
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: planning the right away. Yeah my opportunity. Say hey, Ummulan,

775
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: want you to help make drain model? All right, because

776
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: actually like the drawing stuff, though, said, wan't you help

777
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: make different drain model? I'm sorry? Say, well, we got

778
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: any maps you know, what have any maps? I said, know,

779
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: one of the fifty open maps. So what I want

780
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: to use? So he passed out these tourist maps. A mapp, Yeah,

781
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: you beautiful, beautiful spice our Grenada, big, big old giant,

782
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, the big tourist maps, right, And I said,

783
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: the kids said, no, we don't, we don't have any maps.

784
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: And so we made it to rain model, but instance

785
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: on the south, the southern end of Grenada, right where

786
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: the airstrip is at. And so we did the rain model,

787
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: and I remember said, damn, I remembered Granada because a

788
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: month before that thing was on, they had a special

789
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was John Stossel, but

790
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: one of those gathers on the airfield in Grenada talking

791
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: about at that time, the Cubans were doing a lot

792
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: of activity in Africa right over there in Angola, and

793
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: so they would saying, had the Cubans just building his

794
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: tenth dollar for one way to help tourism in Grenada,

795
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: but they had other nefarious, you know, ideals for that place,

796
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: and so he had Cuban presidents down there, and so

797
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, President Regels worried about it.

798
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: And then you had the baby bombing. Baby bombing happened

799
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: I think day before we went to Grenada and the

800
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: baby bombing. So you had a marine Emmy, you heading

801
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: towards there and the next thing I know, so we

802
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: we Saturday Sunday. We're planning Sunday Monday morning early. We

803
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: started little out and so they said, okay, the first

804
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: ranging baton they jumped the whole whole the time, but

805
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: they had to do to short your aircraft. Second back

806
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: when had jumped with our full full batank continue, So

807
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: we had that like pick people. So I was chosen

808
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: and the rest of the personnel for the battower on

809
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: the next day, you know, once the island is secured.

810
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: But doing the planning, you know, everything that we planned for,

811
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: we thought it's gonna be a kick walk. We're gonna

812
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: airline Bravo company. Our mission was we're going to conduct

813
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: the foot march all way to Cavleni Barracks, right, I

814
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: think it's probably around eight mile eight Mount Timo footbacher

815
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Kevleni Barracks. Once they're would have one of our Spanish

816
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: speaking rangers, you know, tell the Cubans there, hey, stereo

817
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: at stand down, you're gonna be evacuated, you know, Red

818
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: Cross blah blah, You're gonna be you know, reparated back

819
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: to Cuba. And so then you always want to go

820
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: by s O P standing out freaking procedures. Remember he said, okay,

821
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: you know when the SPS like a rifleman. This is

822
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: this is basically little the ammunition for the carry, the

823
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: salt that two or three gunners so forth. Each position

824
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of amount of equipment and um ammunition

825
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: for the carry. So we go to the spe We said, hey,

826
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: take what you want. So started grabbing the ammo and

827
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: just boom, and the issue that Mr red I said,

828
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: what the hell is it like, m re I just

829
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: see you taking Yeah, yeah, this is what we're doing,

830
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm talking my mom my rugs act.

831
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: They said, okay, just take up b to utah, Okay,

832
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: take your put your liner all right, Okay, you don't

833
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: need this, you don't need that, and so the rest

834
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: of the basically ammunition, and then they gave us Mr.

835
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: Ration what's that this is new this new military mills

836
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: before that we even see rations. But when we're going

837
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: to game with it, should m R reee for the

838
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: first time and after we got after you, I never

839
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: saw another sea rap. I never saw a matter of fact,

840
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: still got my original him ree from And so it's

841
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: that the brown ones, the brown package, Mrs Meal ready

842
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: to eat with like franks and beans and whatnot, the brown,

843
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: dark brown. Right. You know, the old school first generation

844
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: was terrible, terrible, Yeah, terrible. I ate it. I ate

845
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: it growing up in an armory. What do you get?

846
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: You know as a kid, that's swell. I've been there,

847
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: first generation, terrible man, gas man, tuna noodles, Oh my goodness,

848
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: tell you chicken stup, you stup. Oh my gosh, your stomach,

849
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: it gotta be coughbat effective though, you need a poop, yeah,

850
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: mr yeah, get him. Then they said, hey, you know

851
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: the mortar's gonna bear. So hey, here's three M sixty round.

852
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: Oh damn god, d M sixty sixty round. I mean

853
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: the for the sixty millim three more round. Okay, boom

854
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: oh hey here here's some seven point six too. And

855
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: you gotta get in the sixties radio. Okay, you got that.

856
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here's the long hole here this right, And

857
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: so Rock was crazy had the large alice packer. So

858
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: Rock is basically nothing but the ammunition. We had to

859
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: help each other up the waddle onto the aircraft. So

860
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: we get in the aircraft. Um, I mean we had

861
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: two gun jeeps, two bikes on our on our bird

862
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: and it was packed. Took off. I think it was

863
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: something like and you're physically fit. Yeah, we're fit, We're fit,

864
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: we're specimens. You know. We were physically yes, And so

865
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: you're carrying all this gear, all this incredible incredible my weight.

866
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: And so I remember loading up on aircraft. I saw

867
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: to the front of the bulkhead near the pilots, we

868
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: saw a stack of parachutes, right, and so what that

869
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: must be contingency planning. We had to jump in. And

870
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: so I think it was almost like a six seven

871
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: maybe eight hour flight all the way down the Grenada.

872
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: So you're trying to arrest you you're stry to rest.

873
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: I believe our a C broke, so it's a getting

874
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of hot. We didn't you know, a C wasn't working,

875
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: and and so you know, you didn't you know, you're

876
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: not thinking, you know, it's gonna be a cape wall.

877
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: And then I mean we had two Sigle guys up

878
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: to the front, you know, and they were giving reports

879
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we just got a report. I mean

880
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: may attention, attention. They're placing obstacles on the runway every

881
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: hundred meters. You know, be prepared, maybe jump option. Damn.

882
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: So people passing on the note, he man's happening at

883
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: me till alright, shut up, you gonna be all right.

884
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: And so then we're getting close and all of a

885
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: sudden we're around almost thirty minutes out. Um, they said, hey,

886
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: the first I think we're we're thirty minutes out. They said,

887
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: the first pass is taking anti aircraft fire. First pass

888
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: to take an anti aircraft fire. We're gonna jump in,

889
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: start suiting up. So we start to put that. We

890
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: start passing parachutes out. And we said, then we're the reserves.

891
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: We didn't have reserves on our aircraft, right, second bed,

892
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: we had no reserves on the aircraft. And which and um,

893
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: at the time you may have first second bat. There

894
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: spieces are different. Like when I was in first BAT,

895
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: we always jumble weapons exposed, but the second BAT they

896
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: always jumble weapons in m nineteen fifty the canvas weapons

897
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: containers right, and so second bat right right. They were

898
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: there for me with rigging for rigging their weapons for

899
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: for four jump with out the weapons container. So with

900
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: another friend in my mind, m hm, he's certain first

901
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: bat too, and he knew how to you know, so

902
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: we knew how to rig you know, weapons exposed, and

903
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: so we started assisting. We started helped rigging the guys

904
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: with weapons exposed, and then we got everybody um suited

905
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: up and you know, he tried to do gm P

906
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: I and like, okay, no reserves, so boom. And then

907
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: they said, okay, we're gonna airline, take a shoots off.

908
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: So we took our shoots off and threw them to

909
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: the front in fifteen minutes later said we got raiders

910
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: on the ground, we're going in. So they started passing

911
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: stuff back out and we're no more than around fifteen

912
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: minutes out and we're putting stuff on. There's no j

913
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: NPIs really being conducted. You know the jump master inspection

914
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: that was throwing out the window. And I remember the

915
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: Johnaster said hey, he said, um, if you don't make

916
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: it on the first basket in the airline n Barbados.

917
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: So we stood up for almost ten minutes and he said,

918
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: when I see when you see the light tower, when

919
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: together work go right there to be attained to go

920
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: that we had a green light. We had a green

921
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: lne on for thirty minutes. And the way that my

922
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: rug sack was it was crazy. It's sweating, getting air sick,

923
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and the pilots, you know, they're nervous, so we're not

924
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: We're going weigh above a safe air drop, you know, airspeed.

925
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: You said we're going in the five on their feet,

926
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: five on their feet. And I remember I was like

927
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: four man in the door, Yes, static line jump. I

928
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: was number four man in the door and they said go.

929
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: He just kind of shuffled out, and I'm looking out

930
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: the little port window and that they didn't look like

931
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: it was but if you looked like it was lower

932
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: than five. And you gotta remember doing peacetime, Um, you

933
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: jump at twelve hl and anything gutting over twelve knots

934
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: you don't jump. But we're jumping up the wind, scuzzing

935
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: up the twenty knots on the tenth eland for the

936
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: one way at five feet Problot is going a little

937
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: bit faster, and I remember I didn't jump. I just

938
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: fell out that twist all way up to my my

939
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: canopy and m right canal trying to bicycle out a

940
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: pullm my rucksack. The lord line didn't even get to

941
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: the full exystem. Lord line, what's that hit rucksack ripped

942
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: open the ammuntion on on the runaway and I'm flying across.

943
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: The runner said, made this is gonna hurt. And I

944
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: hit that runaway so hard. I slammed into it. But

945
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: you gonna let adrenaline and you know, just like, I'm like,

946
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: shake it off. So we jumped out. We secured her way. Yeah,

947
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: we secured the air field. We conducted missions. Our last day,

948
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: we did the Cableni Bears raid. I wasn't on the

949
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: Cavlenny Barricks raid. That was crazy in itself. And um

950
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: so here we are jumping in on Monday. Here we

951
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: are landing back at h at footlooks watching it on

952
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: a Saturday on a Saturday, and literally and you're back

953
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: on Saturday, back on Saturday. And during that time that

954
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: we did a combo n we did the riscue. Well

955
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: if the lessons learned, well, the what was crazy was

956
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: that the we couldn't talk to the fast movers, right,

957
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: we couldn't talk to the fast movers. And then we

958
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: we couldn't talk to the fast movers, the we couldn't

959
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: talk to the Navy. Navy couldn't talk to us. We

960
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: couln't talk to Marines. Brunce couldn't talk to us right

961
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: and then um SLPCE was very important. We did the raid.

962
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: I was on the I did the jump in, I

963
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: did the cav Lenny Barricks raid. Now also did the

964
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: Grand the Grandniss rescue the students American students and it

965
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: was crazy. We landed, we captured something like we're on

966
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: the ground around thirty minutes. We captured over a hundred

967
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: Cubans Grenadians because every time the C one thirty would

968
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: light up that hill, they were scared and um it

969
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: was it was pretty wild. You know. They had the

970
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: International peace Keeping forth theater from Barbados, the Caribbean countries. Yes,

971
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: it was something different. That's incredible. And so who was

972
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: on the ground before you though? Wasn't there wasn't. There's

973
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: gotta be someone given you cordon. That's who are you

974
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: guys working with? It's their joint team going on. Are

975
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: you're working with some seals? Right? The Marines they're on

976
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: their way to be route and they were diverted, so

977
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: they took They landed on the north end of the

978
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: island all right, and so we're on the ground when

979
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: we security air field. We cleared the obstacles off the

980
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: runaway and so the C one thirties will come land

981
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: right that land the shortland, turnaround, drop the ramps, vehicles

982
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: come off. Then they take right off and then another

983
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: aircraft come in. Then to see one forty ones landed.

984
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Probably around an hour and a half that du on

985
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: the island right they started landing, and then they started

986
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: off floating the little birds and then they started offloading

987
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: the depths right the the uah sixties it made sixties right,

988
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: And I remember seeing the Delta guys load up take

989
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: off way to Richmond President and I was waving a

990
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: m is going and literally I know that's when they

991
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: hit a storm going into Richmond President. Um they got

992
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: shot up, you know, pretty good, but they uh yeah,

993
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: that was that was crazy. I saw those guys taken

994
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: off and then I saw the the cobra. I saw

995
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: the cobra strapen and remember laying on a rucksack and

996
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: watching cobra go down. It didn't come back. And see

997
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: a puff of smoke so next thing I know, around

998
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: a week later, I see it on on Time magazine.

999
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: That's when that cobra got shot down. It was crazy.

1000
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: It was crazy. That is crazy. And so what was

1001
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Nie McKnight working with you on this whole project too,

1002
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: this whole situation, because I mean, there's a story I'm

1003
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna bring into here with Danny right, with Colonel McKnight,

1004
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: because yeah, right, what was crazy about kernel McKnight Right,

1005
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: So I get back. Then I was assigned. So then

1006
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: I went and volunteered, went to hundred first the rocket

1007
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: signs and some from the rocket signs, right, I went

1008
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: to to be a range instructor. Range instructor was hard

1009
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: light of my military career, I can honestly say. Before

1010
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: I served in a range of battalion. So from from

1011
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: being a range instructor, I went to third back and

1012
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: I was assigned to Charlie Company three, and so Kurnel

1013
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: mcnight took over. That's when, um, I remember he did

1014
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: a mission. Now I remember when I was the third

1015
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: bat we lost two battalion commanders. My good friend Harvey

1016
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: Moore best Ranger Winner, were roommates together. Four minutes range

1017
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: instructors inducted Rueen Hall of Fame on the Antelope oh

1018
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: um utah when the aircraft Cash the Black crashed out

1019
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: of the nineties here on Yeah, that's right here in

1020
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: my backyard. I actually have seen that monument and paid

1021
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: respects to that. There is there is one out here

1022
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: on the Causeway. Yep, that's right, yeah, Harvey More sorry,

1023
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it lost there. Yeah, yeah, I have a more

1024
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Colonel Strauss and the other Batanian

1025
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: commander his name skips my mind, but yeah, we lost them,

1026
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: and so Curtel and I came aboard and that's when

1027
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 1: Mogad came down, you know Mogan. And at that time

1028
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: I was assigned regiment. Yeah, so I saw the one

1029
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: he left because Bravo Company, in Charlie Company are kuald

1030
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Water crooke each other like you know, Jeff Struker, all

1031
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: those guys that knew those guys you know, to come

1032
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: right across the car. We always talked, smacked each other. Well,

1033
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: So when Mogan went down, I went up at that

1034
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: regiment take court sentence range of regiment, and I remember

1035
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: when it came back so with crazy but Chlonel McKnight.

1036
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what the same day Danny McKnight until

1037
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: we were doing an airsp event with John lou and

1038
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: so a drugood talking and but yeah, you know, remember

1039
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: you know General Grain, you know remember just Charcter came

1040
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: up said Max, that was damn sir. So it was

1041
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: Charnel McKnight. Yeah, you've got an information be the regiment. Yeah,

1042
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: Colonel Danny McKnight. So it's like sixty or like or

1043
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: when you were excuse me in this when you yes,

1044
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: when you were in the in the gunner position of

1045
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: the of the vehicle and he came up and you're

1046
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: like two stars on his jump wings. I want to

1047
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: be like that. Yeah, And so here's colonel today's colonel

1048
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: retired Danny McKnight from you know Black Hawk Down movie

1049
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Operation Serpent, which is in the nineties when they shot

1050
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: down our black Hawks and uh, Max, weren't you somehow

1051
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: involved with that whole situation too? I mean, were you

1052
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: on standby or call to go into the mogue to

1053
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: go take care of stuff after that all went down?

1054
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: Was that something that was in your wheelhouse was up

1055
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: at the regiment. I was working in a Regiment S

1056
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: two as a Regiment UM S two in I c

1057
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: so we sit them until analysts over there in my

1058
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: joel to stay income those guys. But Alpha Company they

1059
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: deployed my good fineman Bobby Lane. We're range his structures together.

1060
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: So the first bed he retire, the command started made.

1061
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: He's also the the a RTV commens star Major Danny

1062
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: Um yet Bobby Lane. So Alpha Company they deployed. They've

1063
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: deployed Mogadisha after um you know, after they battle of

1064
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: a car market there once the situation arose and all

1065
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: those guys, I know, yeah, they're gone now with air Soft, right,

1066
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: this is war games where you know, you and I

1067
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: have become friends and I met you many years ago

1068
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: doing war games with John lu General Lou and I

1069
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: met Colonel Danny McKnight at the time, who is now retired.

1070
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: You know, Danny at the time was a captain. He's

1071
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: moved up his ranks. So that's why we keep referencing

1072
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: captain colonel because it's like, you know, you met him

1073
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: as captain, I've met him as colonel. So here we

1074
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: are back and forth. But you know he'd be someone

1075
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: to have on the show one of these days as well.

1076
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: And uh, I would say that air Soft has brought

1077
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: us all together, you know, being able to go out

1078
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: and recreate war games and pay tribute on Memorial Day

1079
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: to the fallen standing. Uh. You know at a parade,

1080
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: rest or attention, when the flag is rose the morning

1081
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: of the Operation Lion clause, when you know somebody boldly

1082
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: takes the microphone and belts out the national anthem. All right,

1083
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: at any voice, it's a perfect voice. Okay, great pitch whatever.

1084
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: In the wind, the flags blowing, the sun's beating down

1085
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: on your head, and you know you're about to go

1086
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: out into this village of just you know, bb slinging,

1087
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: and you're being led by Max right here. Mad Max

1088
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: Mullin was my commander on my side for Bravo Company.

1089
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: Colonel Danny McKnight would be the commander for Alpha Company.

1090
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: March or die right. And I remember one time I

1091
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: felt so bad. I felt like I cheated on you.

1092
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: I know that John Lewis like, rad I could use

1093
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: some tan guys, and I was like okay, I was

1094
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: like all right, or maybe you asked if someone asked

1095
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: us to go tan and I was like, oh man,

1096
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: that was weird. But you know, I gotta work with David,

1097
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, specifically, He's like Rad, I'm like, yeah, Colonel.

1098
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: He's like, what do you think? What should we do?

1099
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, whatever you think we should do.

1100
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: He's like, just do what you do and I was like,

1101
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: let's go do what I do then, So you know

1102
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: the way that he is. He's like, the leashes are off,

1103
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: just come back when I whistle. And I was like,

1104
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: where you at, Rad, where you at? Where's the war machine?

1105
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: I was like, sir, we're just putting mad Max Mulling

1106
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: under fire war machine. You know, you know, well it

1107
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: was built for you. Gotta talk about Ajax, right, he's

1108
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: my co best friend. He's he's one that created that

1109
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: because we did so many boots on the ground at

1110
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: Lion Clause and we were getting attacked by our personnel

1111
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: carriers from the rear with McKnight. He was dropping off

1112
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: guys behind us all the time with Deuce and halfs

1113
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: were like what what, no more, We're gonna bring this

1114
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: to Max. The war machine was really built with you

1115
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: and us and success in mind. At George Air Force Base,

1116
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: the nuclear bomb of air soft. Oh that thing, I'll

1117
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: call it the cracking. And it's funny if you ever

1118
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: have a chance. Look at some of these videos with

1119
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: a war machines participating your first wait, here goes war machine.

1120
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: People scattered like roachesc war machine. But it's funny thing

1121
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: about war machines. Usually man war machines kind of go ahead. Uh.

1122
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: The funny thing about air Soft, well, and they don't

1123
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: realize that you're the war machine. Bro Yo man, war

1124
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: machine man that thinks she them damn tennis balls man

1125
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: watch out. I'm glad you brought up Airsoft. I didn't

1126
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: have no idea what Airsoft was until I believe it

1127
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: was around too. I want to say two thousand five,

1128
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: John Leu did the first event out in California at

1129
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: some some um coyle ranch and he had invited um

1130
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: Ken Miller Kim Miller former l Company Rangers seventy five

1131
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: and Vietnam wrote three books, had the most most patrols

1132
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: of any ranger alert in the Vietnam was shot down

1133
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: at the helicopter and stable rig phenomenal mind speaks fluent Chinese.

1134
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: He went up against Rona McKnight the first time, and

1135
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: so then um the rerigly thing that they're they're gonna

1136
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: rotate commanders out and so then John Loui. He contacted

1137
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: me the second year because um can Milly recommended and say,

1138
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, John lou V do best yours marketing and

1139
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: airs offt and like to know what you interesting coming

1140
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: out in the war game. I said, airsoff. I never

1141
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: heard heard of the sport of Airsoft. You remember this

1142
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: is back in in uh two thousand and five and

1143
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: basically still in this infancy. And um I said, yeah,

1144
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: sure I'll come out, but I didn't know what to expect.

1145
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: And um they said, you're gonna be to play the

1146
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: role of the commander and your your job is to

1147
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: motivate them and and you know, to motivate them and

1148
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: also you know, you know, lead him tactically as a leader.

1149
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: And so I said, sure, I'll come. I didn't. I

1150
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: didn't have no idea I'd be doing this for nineteen

1151
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: years later, almost two years later, still doing it. But

1152
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: the good thing about air Soft, the good thing about

1153
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: it is that opportunity people. You know, you have a

1154
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 1: lot of active duty people at that time it would

1155
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: laugh about it, you know, my air Soft. You know

1156
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the big gear manufactured companies didn't want

1157
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: to get their products associated with air Soft and I

1158
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: would tell them, you guys are losing on a awesome

1159
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: opportunity because you know, these so called air soft there

1160
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: is as always people. I mean, they love the rear gear.

1161
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: I said, you got these young men and young women

1162
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: out there. At least you're out there doing something. You know,

1163
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: they will make fun of obese kids and stuff like that.

1164
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, at least you're out there

1165
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: doing something, not stuck in house, you know, playing Call

1166
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: of Duty model. They out there experiencing it. And I said,

1167
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: if I could bring something to it, you know, I'll

1168
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: call it a sport. And um, I said, it's a

1169
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: differenceween airsoft and MILSOM. I mean air Soft is basically

1170
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: the kids going out there, they're shooting each other, just

1171
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: having to get time. But I said, Mills sim is

1172
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: a serious enactment. Is I call it? I put in

1173
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: the same category as Civil War reenactment, World War to

1174
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: re enactment. And I said, a lot of the scenarios

1175
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: are based off, you know, real actual missions. And I

1176
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: saw this as an opportunity. I said, Um, their kids,

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01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: that their young men and women that were kids when

1178
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: I was doing air Soft who went on to join

1179
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: the military and serving Afghanistan in Iraq. I said, I

1180
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: remember you had I'm Captain Joey. He deployed and he

1181
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: came back while he was deployed to Iraq just to

1182
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: participate in air soft and I said, Joey, why are

1183
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: you doing? He said, Man, I just love the sport.

1184
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: I love it. So when I said I'm associated with

1185
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: mill sim, I said, I love it. I love the sport,

1186
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: and I've been doing it for so long, and I've

1187
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: been at games where it's been over six hundred people,

1188
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: three d people, myself, Chrona McKnight, Paul long Gar, Battle

1189
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: Long Bad or Not of the Civil Star, Civil Star

1190
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: reshipping him. Miller Command started me to retalk. Mark claus

1191
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: Jo's Yeah, former former Delta Tag, former seven fil the

1192
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: Ranger Regiment, former Range instructor. You know RTB. We do this, right,

1193
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: We we participate in this and you have these different

1194
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: AIRSTOFE organizations. Yeah, participate. It's it's all about fun. It's

1195
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: not about you know, you guys win. I don't. I

1196
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: don't take it serious. You know, guys will play at

1197
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: me for one year, then they go to the other side.

1198
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't have no problem with it because it's it's

1199
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: all for the sport. You know. We're here to myself

1200
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: and Sartain Claio start Major Claio's. We're here to give

1201
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: realism and just try and just you know, bring to

1202
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 1: the sport. We don't try and treat them like they're

1203
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: real active duty soldiers or anything like that, but we

1204
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: try and put them in positions where they have to

1205
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: think leadership. We put them leading position. Like a young

1206
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: Millson may come out to me, what should I do?

1207
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: Serin Sara mussaid, what what would you do? I make

1208
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: them think what would you do? How would you attack

1209
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: the situation? And so I treat it as a range

1210
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: instructor where I'm there, you know, critique, advice and so forth,

1211
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: and I know how hard to push the gas peddle,

1212
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: and I would know when it's up. But saying as

1213
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: you have all these different organizations out there, you have

1214
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: Mills and West was an awesome organization that they'd like

1215
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: to do twenty for our games, and you have all

1216
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: these different airsoft venues that you can participate in, but

1217
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: you have to find one that fits you. If you're like,

1218
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: if you're into the twenty for our games, it can

1219
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: get as really as get you got ones where they

1220
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,959
Speaker 1: do like the indoor shooting, there's a real fast pace.

1221
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: But find your niche, you know, I have exactly you

1222
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: can find what you'd like to do. Yeah, indoor shootouse,

1223
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, but it's a sport that everybody participated and

1224
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: I highly encourage my active duty brothers and sister had

1225
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: Like just this last last Airsoft event at George Air

1226
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: Force Base, I had seven active duty Navies Navy personnel,

1227
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: seven active duty running with me, and I hope our

1228
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: listener listening right now knows that I have just straight

1229
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: love for this guy right here. Okay, Max, we have

1230
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: the same rain tone, but it's okay. We've been talking dude.

1231
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean we're in an hour at eight minutes. Bro,

1232
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: it's been awes and no, no, no, because I want

1233
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: you to know that I want air Soft and I

1234
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: want you to really helm that you know that Beacon,

1235
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean ranger, Hall of Fame, deployments, physically in shape,

1236
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: gives leadership tips, gave them to me things like you

1237
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: said that you wanted to track down the Green Beret

1238
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: that I put that hat on your head. I get

1239
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: to talk to you all the time. I tracked you

1240
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: down and and you've said things to me that have

1241
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: inspired me, whether it's you know, march or die, March

1242
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: or die, March or die. It's like there's just really

1243
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: two words right there. It's either march or die. And

1244
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: you could use that in your everyday life. Right in

1245
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: my business, it's either march or die. I'm not gonna

1246
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: be successful unless I march or die. And I just

1247
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: want you to know that, Max, you inspire me as well.

1248
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: And I hope that you know someone listening to, someone

1249
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: listening to this segment right now who may have had asthma,

1250
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: may not have been able to join the military for

1251
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: some other reason that out of their control, they could

1252
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: come place some air Soft with us so they can

1253
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: roll and rub shoulders with guys like you. You know,

1254
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 1: hardcore gals like you know that, like Mama Nuke here

1255
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: in Utah who plays. You know, it doesn't matter where

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Speaker 1: you come from where all you met Mama Nuke back

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Speaker 1: in uh California. She came out with us and fought. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, air soft allows every color everything you want

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Speaker 1: to be to play. So just show up, shake hands,

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Speaker 1: and just get your fight on. And there's no sense

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01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: and causing drama right, Because this whole tactical world that

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Speaker 1: you you talk about, like the big boys, the companies,

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: the small air Soft companies, the government contracts out there,

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01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: there's enough tactical pie for all of us to have

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Speaker 1: a nibble of it. We don't need to go after

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Speaker 1: each other's throats about it. Okay. Just focus on your

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Speaker 1: lane and just eat your pie. Okay. And if you

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: and I don't trying to take my pie, that's it. Actually,

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Speaker 1: And uh, and I just you're the man, bro. I

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01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know but that you know, but I encourage you know,

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Speaker 1: my active duty. I remember one time I had a

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Speaker 1: guy for who was a cat guy showed up at

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: AIRSLF Advantage and dude, what he did. Don't say nothing.

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Speaker 1: You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Who shows up be

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Speaker 1: yourself events? Remember all that. If I say the name,

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Speaker 1: do you know that name? Yeah? I know him, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know his air Soft career that he had for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Dude, you know in Vegas he had

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Speaker 1: his whole environment that was all air Soft related with

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Speaker 1: all those SF guys, Bro, all those Delta guys that

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: were running zombie missions. I'm just saying, uh, pocalypse, um,

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Speaker 1: puckalyps Vegas. But was crazy. I was on the ground floor.

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Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. I was one

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Speaker 1: of the original men before landing in Vegas. I was

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Speaker 1: with with them Publics Vegas when it was still traveling,

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Speaker 1: like a traveling you know, a show. It would go

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Speaker 1: set up and they would we run those missions and stuff.

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01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: So hobbit he decided to have a home based in Vegas,

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it was part of part of that.

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Speaker 1: Part of that helped pop him up with I gotta

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Speaker 1: walk through that beautiful environment. The only thing that yeah,

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01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, COVID killed it. COVID killed it.

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01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: That's what hurt it. That's exactly what it did. Because

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01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: it was an indoor venue, no more gatherings. It wasn't

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: anything to do with anything other than shut down. It

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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: was forced shutdown. You know, all of Vegas was really

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01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: because it was just it's a tourist town. So but Travis,

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: if you're out there and you want to come place

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: some airsoft with Rat and Max, you want to kick it, huh,

1300
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: we could have a little day with We'll bring Travis.

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Speaker 1: We'll bring him out. Oh yeah, he's a good dude, bro,

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: you know. So it's a small world, Max, Yes it is. Now.

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01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: I've had you for an hour and ten minutes, our

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01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: listeners have had you, and I just want to say

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Speaker 1: thank you so much Max for being on the show.

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything that you'd like to say. I'll

1307
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: give you like thirty seconds to say anything you want. Well,

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Hey, participate in mills SIM,

1309
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: active duty military, retirees, law enforcement. Get out there, have

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: a good time. Try it out. I enjoy it. If

1311
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: if forth been in, look up mad Max. You can

1312
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: hit me up on Instagram, Facebook, you know, hit me up.

1313
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: I answer all my my, um, anybody missing your answer

1314
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: them all. But I also want to say a rap

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for the years of how long

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Speaker 1: we know about fifteen years? Pretty close? Been ten year,

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Speaker 1: twelve years? Yeah it has been oh nine yeah, yeah,

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: thank you you've done. Thank you for all you've done

1319
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: for for Aerosoft and mill SIM you know, thank you

1320
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: know your dad for your service and special Forces. Man,

1321
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: you do some great things. Don't encourage you to keep

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01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: it up. Um stop his store. It's good to go

1323
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: that equipment. If you didn't have any advice on you

1324
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: have any questions there he goes support local and so

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01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm in cloth. Let's want to say thank you for

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01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: inviting me up. Thank you very much, You're welcome, and

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Speaker 1: from all of us here at softwareb on behalf of

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Web. Oh, we'll get you back on Max. This

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: is just only one segment of many to come. Okay,

1330
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: my friends, so we'll get that out. And I just

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: want to say thank you again on behalf of all

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01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: of us at Software. My listener that's listening, in the

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: viewer that's watching all right, I'm gonna say this is

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Speaker 1: rad and peace. You've been listening to Self rep Radio