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Speaker 1: Willio and we are back sponsored by boost Mobile.

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Speaker 2: Happy end of the week.

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Speaker 1: Maul is very very disappointed because we have to come

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Speaker 1: in here and and start our podcast with Pat Poos today.

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Speaker 1: But I'm actually thrilled and we also have a friend

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Speaker 1: of the show, Yes joining us today, our guide Torre Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know mister young conyans finding because I

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Speaker 1: was twenty years ago down there.

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Speaker 3: You guys for having me. I'm a big fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what you guys are doing here? You know, wanted to

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Speaker 3: be on this couch right here, somebody from Cornela. Let

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Speaker 3: me ask you, how many times have you been to

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Speaker 3: the Bronx growing up, growing up or in my adulthood? No,

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Speaker 3: an adulthood is different because you could drive to the bright.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about being young having to take the train

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Speaker 3: from Corney Island to the Bronx. How many times did

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Speaker 3: you do that? Probably like zero to negative five exactly, somebody,

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Speaker 3: I never want to take the truck. I want to

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Speaker 3: turn twenty years what it is because we were talking

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many weeks ago, but we were

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Speaker 3: talking about how long the train ride is from uptown

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Speaker 3: to Corney Island. That's like a two hour train. No,

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Speaker 3: that's literally from like the start to the end. Bro,

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. You get to you could take a flight

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about from my door to my mother's doing Virginia.

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Speaker 2: It's less than two hours.

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Speaker 3: No, you could get in the car and drive to

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Speaker 3: Philly and watch a Sixers game in the same amount

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Speaker 3: of time it takes you to get on the train,

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Speaker 3: especially if somebody jump on the track. That is something

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Speaker 3: that that takes that long. Now is sick is a

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Speaker 3: sick time. But like going to Corney Island was a

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Speaker 3: thing like that was like a day. But we're like,

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Speaker 3: are we going to Corney Island? Tomalls, go to Nathans

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Speaker 3: As you should, you know what I'm saying. But I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to know somebody being from Corney Island, how

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Speaker 3: how many times did you make the voyage from Corney

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Speaker 3: Island to the Bronx. The furthest we was going to

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Speaker 3: the train was to Hollom, You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That was it right there, haul on the Bronx. And

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Speaker 3: then when I was a kid, I was I was

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Speaker 3: in trouble, so I couldn't go to like the school trips.

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Speaker 2: If we went to the Bronx or something. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: saying I couldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: I had no permission slips, So yeah, I would go

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Speaker 3: to the Bronx zoo from now we probably would go

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Speaker 3: to Brooklyn, but just in case, on the off chance

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Speaker 3: if they might have wanted.

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Speaker 2: To, I still couldn't go. Got you? She was fucked up?

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Speaker 3: Well that's good to hear might have been from Corney

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Speaker 3: Island that they never made that trip, just like we

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Speaker 3: probably trip.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's do a stream city Islands, Corny Island, this

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Speaker 2: Summer City Island and Coney Island all public transportation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how are you gonna have service to do that way?

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Speaker 1: What's off to don? He's gonna give his free WiFi?

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Speaker 2: That is true. I forget. I forgot that was part

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Speaker 2: of his we'll get a free standing on.

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Speaker 1: It's for the streamers of.

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Speaker 2: It was free.

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Speaker 3: It was the free grocery store that opened one day

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Speaker 3: and closed. Right, Yeah, now that's closed, so then we'll

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Speaker 3: get free Wi Fi on the subway as well.

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Speaker 2: Got it? Crazy?

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Speaker 1: Well, why I was excited to actually talk about this

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Speaker 1: Patpoos fifty Mano Max b debacle is because we have

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn bias. In here, and we have geune and bias,

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Speaker 1: full geune and bias in here.

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Speaker 3: I mean Max, Me and Max went to the same

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Speaker 3: high school. So fair, I'll take Max in this fight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we will not get an objective opinion from

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Speaker 1: anyone in here, no whatsoever. Never I was talking to

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Speaker 1: demeras off Mike, I'm really coming in here being objective.

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Speaker 1: She does not think that. But I didn't mind the

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Speaker 1: Mano diss. I didn't mind the pat poos one thought

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Speaker 1: they were both cool. I'm just sick of twenty years

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Speaker 1: hearing the same exact thing about fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. But if the Mara started shaking in

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Speaker 4: I did not start shaking in my chair. I just said,

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Speaker 4: I'm tired of your bullshit. It because now suddenly every

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Speaker 4: time where there's a rat battle, you have to hear

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Speaker 4: never heard before in order.

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Speaker 1: For it to be so. He said he has herpes.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of a just put lies in the

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Speaker 3: What they said about fifty You got what herpies and

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Speaker 3: what diabetes? I've never seen fifties medical records.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: First of all, diabetes shaming is funny. Yeah, that's being like,

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Speaker 1: you know you got you got type one. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: my ship like pancreous. They said that my mother ha

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Speaker 1: type one, Like damn, we can't have the beats.

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Speaker 2: No more where we add as a car.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that. I don't think every battle

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Speaker 1: needs to be post push and drake or U r L.

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Speaker 1: Whill we find out where they went to hy school

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Speaker 1: this and that. I'm just saying it's been the same

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Speaker 1: When they can say you are yo, you only got

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Speaker 1: shot five times, nine times, you're a snitch. You never

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Speaker 1: really went to jail.

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Speaker 2: I heard.

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Speaker 3: I heard this for twenty years. The wait the shots

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Speaker 3: is crazy? You got shot five times? Fan wasn't note.

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Speaker 2: Like alright, cool, shoot me once in the face and

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Speaker 2: you'll never hear the under.

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Speaker 3: Like, all right, now, you only got shot five times?

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Speaker 3: Stop saying nine all you got.

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Speaker 2: It and listen, maybe that is true.

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Speaker 1: They even interviewed the guy that was in the car

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Speaker 1: he's a friend of fifty, He's like, maybe he wasn't

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Speaker 1: counting the shots. Yeah, like counting if I'm fifty, I'm

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Speaker 1: counting an exit wound as another shot. If I get

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Speaker 1: bad math. If you guys had five no one one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one was great. His story is getting better by

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Speaker 3: And if you shoot at me nine times, I'm saying

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Speaker 3: you shot at me like emptied the clip. That's imagine

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Speaker 3: somebody shooting at you and you hit not you know

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Speaker 3: you're adrenaline.

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Speaker 2: You hurt Yo.

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Speaker 3: The nigga shot at me twenty times, Like the number

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Speaker 3: is gonna change for me and my start every year,

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Speaker 2: How long did it take to pull off?

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Speaker 3: Like how you get that many shots of it's a lot,

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Speaker 3: Like the key wasn't indignition, These wasn't like it's a

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Speaker 2: It's a long time. But the guy I think the

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Speaker 1: He was on cam copone in one of those platforms

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Speaker 1: he was saying he was he was like turned around

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Speaker 2: That motherfucker was bad. That that was crazy.

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Speaker 1: And he backed up into i think the car with

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Speaker 1: spraying on my car, I don't know if I'm going

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Speaker 2: This is one way.

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Speaker 1: No, I think he was blocked in because in the

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Speaker 1: So I mean, but again, shooting nine times in the car,

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Speaker 3: Look at what we're debating them, look at this to

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Speaker 3: the point of like if I get it's like, what

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Speaker 3: else really is there to talk There's no new nothing, right,

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Speaker 3: he's been out of the music business, so you can't

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of makes Demani's look more credible,

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Speaker 2: Like super new.

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Speaker 1: At least he did get into post fifties career and

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Speaker 1: how he's moved and who he's put on fifty You

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Speaker 1: could argue has moved somewhat selfish since since being selfless, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more or less, because I think he did do a

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Speaker 2: You could make a case. I'm not saying that you

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Speaker 1: I'd rather Pap get into that because I think Pap

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Speaker 1: Foods is a great rapper that could come up with

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Speaker 1: a good theory rather than dog like You're not as

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Speaker 1: gangster as you say.

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Speaker 2: You are.

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Speaker 1: He's fucking fifty one years old and is shooting TV shows.

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Speaker 1: Do you think anyone cares if he's.

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Speaker 3: I think the thing is a lot of these guys

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Speaker 3: have had as a writer as rapper, you know, you

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Speaker 3: always have bars for whoever the top right, just in

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Speaker 3: case the desicate it yourself where me and you're gonna

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Speaker 3: time where we're hearing all of these bars that these

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Speaker 3: about saying something new. This is shit they had here

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Speaker 3: or they had written down for the last.

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Speaker 1: Fifty just wait and just just in case it's waiting.

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Speaker 1: Because he's a troll, he's a bully.

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Speaker 3: Came in with that energy, so every rap had to

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Speaker 3: be like, all right, if he ever come at me,

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Speaker 3: I got some ten thousand percent, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's what this is.

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Speaker 3: I think these are just bars that these guys have

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Speaker 3: already had, and now it's just the opportunity presented itself

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Speaker 3: for them to get their shit off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again, I just think there should be another angle.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind Mano or patpoos is, to be quite honest,

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Speaker 1: Tom's point about giving out new information. This is why

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Speaker 1: rap battles are kind of funny when you step away

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Speaker 1: from it outside looking in Happoo's saying, Fifty, why haven't

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Speaker 1: you told the world you have herpes? Is one of

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Speaker 1: the funniest things I ever. Can y'all tell me how

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Speaker 1: fifty should have done his herpees?

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Speaker 2: Reveal?

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Speaker 1: Like but yo pass like yo, fifth, look at me?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a private matter to me.

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Speaker 2: That's a wild question. I'm telling you has reached a

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Speaker 1: And he's like, dude, do an nba, young boy? Did

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Speaker 3: If I'm not having central intercourse with you, young lady,

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Speaker 3: I don't need to know any of this information ever

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Speaker 2: And and let's move does it matter? Does it matter

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Speaker 1: What that explains me is especially active with someone you

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Speaker 2: I literally, if you found.

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Speaker 1: Out your favorite rapp had herbes when he made your

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Speaker 1: we could say that about all rap battles and we're

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Speaker 3: Get what you're saying, but all that battles, that's a

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Speaker 1: I mean, fifty has rapped a lot about the injuries

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Speaker 2: His body a lot. Is the fifty Max Be song real? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yall, the video is real?

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Speaker 2: Too real? AI?

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Speaker 1: That's no, that's just how wavy of maxes he can.

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Speaker 1: I was in Tom Square. I was like, was that

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: When I saw the video, I didn't know if this

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Speaker 2: Is it a real?

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Speaker 5: Joint?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it maybe is it? Is it real? It's real?

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Speaker 5: It's yes?

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Speaker 1: I did not think were AI that were one thousand

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Speaker 3: When fifty posted that video, the AI video, that's what

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Speaker 3: it's this time now where you know people post sh

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Speaker 3: it just making a joke, right, and it's like, all,

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Speaker 3: is this a real song?

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Speaker 2: Though? Like that's that's my only thing, Like is this

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Speaker 3: Obviously Fifty posted it, so I guess you could call

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Speaker 3: that supporting the song. Max posted it too.

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Speaker 2: Max posted, but but again, people troll.

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Speaker 4: He's not He's not putting a fake song on his

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Speaker 5: That's a real This is a real.

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Speaker 2: He put it on he posted his vio.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, but I'm saying fifty could have done the

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Speaker 1: not shock me that fifty would take a fan made

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Speaker 5: Not on his youth, not on his official youth.

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Speaker 1: His hist y'all got fifty with the Maria and putting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little that's more of like a youth

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Speaker 3: stamping it like business. Yeah, because now you've goten counting

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Speaker 1: I was I hate AI videos, but this one did

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Speaker 2: It's like, god awful AI.

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Speaker 3: That makes it funny, but we actually looking at you know,

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Speaker 3: how much did it cost to create this AI video?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I'm saying. So it's

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Speaker 3: like that's made though. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You have this whole AI video.

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Speaker 4: We don't know who made it, probably free mind of

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Speaker 4: where somebody made it. Somebody made the video for him

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Speaker 1: So let's say fifty it took two liters of water

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Speaker 1: from the Midwest to make that. What it does this

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're watching the land escape of entertainment change

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Speaker 3: this is a whole different element of entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, entertain I'm glad you said entertainment somebody. It's

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Speaker 1: It was just funny to watch, if you really think

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Speaker 3: Was it fun with dre Day what they had a

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Speaker 3: fake ease they had to fake easy e right, I

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Speaker 3: can't remember old me name, but it's no different than that. Right,

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Speaker 3: Like before you get actors that look like somebody, then

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Speaker 2: Was different dish in Jay.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And you don't have to

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Speaker 2: You could just type it in. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So it's really an exention of that what it technology

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Speaker 1: I will say as much as fifty doesn't take anything serious,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Mano, I would kind of feel a way,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing an A I shouldn't be getting cut

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Speaker 2: The other ship was all just kind of ha.

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Speaker 1: But like you you typed in Mano get and cut

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Speaker 2: Well, fifty didn't make the video. He posted it. He

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Speaker 2: co signed it, Okay, but he's saying he made it.

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Speaker 2: He didn't make this video.

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Speaker 3: He just somebody made it send it to him like,

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Speaker 3: oh this is dope A right, I'm gonna post it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's still co signing.

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Speaker 3: I mean he wrapped it. You worried about the visual.

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Speaker 1: He rapped I'm not. I mean, it's that all right. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying out of everything that he said was

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Speaker 1: and Mano was just, you know, replying.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he.

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Speaker 3: Feel like, listen, man, this is what this is what

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Speaker 3: each other, which requires disrespect, then that's the art of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about things that happened to you.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about things that you did, things

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Speaker 3: So that's not out of bounds for fifty to rap

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't say it was out of bound. I

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Speaker 1: just I was wondering if that was something that you

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Speaker 2: I don't care about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure if Mano thought that was maybe

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Speaker 2: No, this is no battle. Yeah, battle once.

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Speaker 3: Is old, gloves is off. Aren't see that it's done.

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Speaker 3: It ain't no rules and no women and children not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just not I'm just not sure.

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Speaker 1: If Mato season, that's well that way, that's all, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, where where does this land are we going

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Speaker 1: to continue? Is? I actually think Dave's got the biggest

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Speaker 1: you and then put Dave's face up there. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was the first person I thought we were going to

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Speaker 3: Doing well because there's no there's no I mean, fifty

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Speaker 3: probably wasn't even really rapping the more when Dave started dropping,

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Speaker 1: But Day was in that that cipher that they did

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Speaker 3: If they weren't doing a podcast, they wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: Okay, but do you think that's not a diss though

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Speaker 1: you're not he not even talking to me.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if David sitting back like nah,

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Speaker 1: What Demani and King were around when Fifty was rapping

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Speaker 1: though fifty is lying to us to say.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't talking about them, he was talking about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but once fifty posted a picture of their mom,

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Speaker 3: you can only expect that those guys are going to

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Speaker 2: Especially if they rap big facts. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean so at that point, fifty kind of sort

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Speaker 3: I got some balls for fifty. But with Dave, it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't. Fifty don't have he don't probably

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying he probably didn't. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: fifty be around with Dave yet, do.

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Speaker 1: We think Dave or Fab replies Fab, yes, they. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if East is going to respond though, I

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Speaker 1: think he's in quad right now. But why though right now.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's fifty didn't say nothing to all that about him?

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Speaker 3: Is well, because that's what is that cloud see by association?

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Speaker 2: But is it cloud chasing?

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Speaker 3: If if he's put out a record and Fifty's say

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Speaker 3: nothing about him, is he inserting himself into it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Horse, I mean god, that.

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Speaker 1: Was out of that and we already know it's unsafe

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Speaker 1: to do that with fifty see choking over here.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. But is that not cloud chasing?

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Speaker 1: No? If they be like, nah, fuck that you put

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Speaker 1: my face in your video and said I'm not even

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Speaker 1: worthy of dissing, you know what I'm saying, You're.

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Speaker 2: Not worthy of dissing. That's disrespect.

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Speaker 1: If he's randomly distant.

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Speaker 3: Before, I'm just asking the room, is that disrespect somebody

443
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 3: like you're not even you're not even worth disrespecting?

444
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 2: No disrespect. Okay, so I got to go make a record.

445
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you got to go make

446
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 3: a rick, but you know what I'm saying, I should

447
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 3: go make it.

448
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 4: Even the clock like we're not watching the clock, but

449
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, if the hands start moving like niggas, you

450
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

451
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 2: We ain't got unplugged. So I'm just trying to. I'm

452
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,439
Speaker 2: just trying to.

453
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,639
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't reply, I wouldn't think anything. But if

454
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 1: he does, I'd be like, yeah, I get it, yeah exactly,

455
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,159
Speaker 1: which is a composition to be in.

456
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I don't think he should though, Nah.

457
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 1: For what I mean, how much did he really say

458
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: about fab Besides that, the video made it worse because

459
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,399
Speaker 1: it was it was mainly Mano throughout it, But like,

460
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 1: was the fab shit that that crazy? It was the

461
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 1: video that made it nuts to me.

462
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Fab already put out a record going with me,

463
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 2: so it's.

464
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 1: Just on the turn out.

465
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on is lit? This Fab care enough?

466
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: I was actually shocked fabcard enough to do the first one.

467
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 3: I was probably just itching the rap anyway. Yeah, he

468
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 3: want to wrap. I wouldn't want to get his ship off.

469
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, here's a series called Sultape, Go wrap did

470
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 1: heat tape? That's twenty twenty six. That's what we are.

471
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: But where is And I asked you this last week, no,

472
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 3: maybe two weeks ago. Now where does this ship end?

473
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 3: That's that's the real question. Where does this ship? I

474
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 3: was to be like, nah, I'm like, where is this end?

475
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: Is all I'm saying.

476
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 4: Well, when I was talking to you about it, it

477
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 4: was just the Harris family involved.

478
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: Everybody else was. But this was before that. Yeah, this

479
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: this started before the Yeah, this was this was with

480
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: Jim and Mayno, in fact, this was before Yeah, but

481
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was over.

482
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: This is okay, So it's been three months we back. Now,

483
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: so now, what like when is this? Because that's why

484
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't think fifth because I told

485
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 3: you I didn't think fifty was gonna respond, and I

486
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: think he was gonna rap. I think I think he

487
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 3: was going to make music. I thought he was gonna

488
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 3: keep patrolling. You know what I'm saying, because that's what

489
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 3: fifty does. He's a troll, like he'd say shit on

490
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: this on on on social media. He did the clever

491
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 3: move of you know, even though he did say that

492
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 3: that wasn't about uh, he's a liar, right, But didn't

493
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 3: I tell y'all, I said, now, if t I jump

494
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 3: out there and respond to that bar, we just spoke

495
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: about this in the last episode. I said, he didn't

496
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: say no names. We don't know what the New Power

497
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 3: where it's gonna be based at. It could have some

498
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 3: Atlanta times in the New Power.

499
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: We don't know that. Y'all was like, nah, fuck that. Okay.

500
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 3: Now fifty comes out and says that that wasn't that

501
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 3: wasn't directed said.

502
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't about the Cosbys, which is a crazy thing

503
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: to say.

504
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: That's very so I said, Fifty says it, y'all like, nah,

505
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 2: y'all not jacking that fifty Lion.

506
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: He's lying, all right, Cool, y'all could think he's lying.

507
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he said it. So now I'm saying,

508
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: does t I respond to that again?

509
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: A massive question because he already said he was done

510
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: with it already. Oh yeah, So I think this this

511
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: ends when fifty starts focusing on the TI and Tiny Doc.

512
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: Whatever Fifty's about to promote is when it ends. Fifty's

513
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: going to drag this as long as you think this

514
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: ends when he puts the doc. Oh, I think I

515
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: gonna get no, no, no, I'm saying this Domino Oka,

516
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: Max b Patpoo's Jim Jones, Like, I think this this

517
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: chapter is just an interlude until he gets to the

518
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: TI and Tiny Doc.

519
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: Got it?

520
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay, this is to fill some time. Like you said,

521
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm the algorithms. Everyone have to talk about me, which

522
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean isn't the case, but it's a fun thing

523
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, I think this ends when fifty moves

524
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 1: on to his next thing.

525
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: Yo, doing a doc is really crazy. Doing another doc

526
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: paron just crazy?

527
00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: Yo?

528
00:21:59,359 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: Why is that great?

529
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Like that's what the game has gone to, Like we're

530
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: doing documentaries about well he's not.

531
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: He's not.

532
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: Fifty is in a whole different space of entertainment now.

533
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: He came in as a troll right with how to Rob.

534
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 3: How to Rob was like one of the biggest troll

535
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: records ever for sure. So he came in with that

536
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: energy like I'll go at anybody. I don't give a fuck.

537
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not here to be friends with any

538
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: of yard. I don't fuck with none of y'all like that.

539
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 3: That's always been Fifty's energy. Now that he's in a

540
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: different space in his life when it comes to entertainment,

541
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: it was the same trolling, just in a different It's

542
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: the same energy, but he's just delivering it differently. So

543
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: it's like it's like it's like a disc record, right,

544
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: It's just ain't no music behind eight it's just eight episodes.

545
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: It's like, all, yo, this is these are the people. Look,

546
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: these are the nasty guys that y'all support. I could

547
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: have said this in a rap, Yeah, Fifty could have

548
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: said all of this in a rap. Yes, but he's

549
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: probably looking at it like, I don't even rap like

550
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 3: that no more. I'm creating shows, which is why him

551
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: putting that bar that rightfully. So everybody felt like was

552
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: tailored towards TI. In the intro song to the New

553
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: Power that was genius.

554
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: Shit.

555
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: It was like, yo, right, this is how I'm gonna respond,

556
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: Like people talk, y'all.

557
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: Gonna hear this song every week, every episode, y'all gonna

558
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: hear this song clever, right, But that's part of his brand.

559
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 6: Now.

560
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: Business is part of the show for sure with the

561
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: documentary coming off. For the documentary he just did about

562
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: the Diddy doc that was number one in how many countries,

563
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: Like it's about business for fifty because this is at

564
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 3: the end of the day.

565
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's wild to hear.

566
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: Certain things this record, and sometimes people say things at

567
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's all entertainment though.

568
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, now the doc is like, that's not.

569
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: That we aren't gonna sit around and turn on our

570
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: TV and watch it like we want to be even

571
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: though it's things we're gonna hear like damn, like that's crazy,

572
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: But it's still a form of entertainment.

573
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: It's still a documentary that we're learning about things.

574
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: Like some of the things that are being said maybe

575
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: a little funny, it might be some jokes in there,

576
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: but it's like at the end of the day, this

577
00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: is all entertainment.

578
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: This is but this is fifties. This is the area

579
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: that he's in.

580
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: Now.

581
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: I never thought that hip hop would take it this far?

582
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: But is it crazy? Really?

583
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: Though?

584
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: Like this is who he Now.

585
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: If this is the first Top fifty ever did a

586
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: documentary or ever did anything like in that lane with television,

587
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: then it would be like, yo, what he doing?

588
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: Like, but he's been in television the Vigin of the

589
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: BF DVD. Yeah, so he's been in He's been in

590
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: television for how many years now? He's produced how many

591
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: shows and things like? So this is part of his

592
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: you know, the way he can choose to respond. Now,

593
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: I don't think it's anything crazy about that.

594
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: Which side of y'all on with the dandy part and

595
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: now to be the TI thing that he wouldn't have

596
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: done these docks had he not had an issue with

597
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: those people. Where do y'all land on? I don't want

598
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: to say morally, but how that how that looks like?

599
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that, Like if he didn't have an

600
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 3: issue with with with Diddy, or if he didn't have

601
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: this latest thing with TI, maybe he wouldn't have gotten

602
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: that but I mean, yeah, that's the way he chooses

603
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: to respond.

604
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I mean we briefly talked about it with

605
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: the Diddy one, Like, yeah, do I think that fifty

606
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: did that to Spike Diddy based off their history and

607
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: his baby mother?

608
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: Yes, But I do think the information that was in that.

609
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: In that entire series should have been out there. Like

610
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm glad that info is out there now about Puff.

611
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: Was it done based off nasty intentions from Fifty?

612
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: Sure?

613
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: But I think the world needs to know these things

614
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: about some of our biggest entertainers.

615
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: A fucking documentary can come out every day. The game

616
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: is this nastyr Niggas is super nasty. I was the

617
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: bull for years. So it only it only sees the

618
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: light of day when you have you know what I'm saying,

619
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: you have a running when you have an issue with

620
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: a person, because then that makes you responsible in some

621
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: regard because if you have this information, whether you got

622
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: an issue with that person or not, if you have

623
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: this information and the platform to get it out there

624
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: and the means to do it, then why not do

625
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: it for the greater good?

626
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: I would? I think it's different.

627
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: I think fifty, just because he's in television. I think

628
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: people through back channels reach out and say, hey, somebody

629
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: has this TI documentary that they put together. Yeah, fifty

630
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: is just executive producing. They're putting money behind it and

631
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: putting it on a platform.

632
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: And that's why I think happened with the Diddy want

633
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: to I don't. I don't think so they started up

634
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: the director works for puffing one.

635
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: Nobody said I got the Harvey Weinstein joint cooked up.

636
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: You want to get behind it?

637
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: Post?

638
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's how they would call Harvey. They didn't

639
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: have anyone, right, I don't think that.

640
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't think those people reached out to fifty now

641
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: when it's rappers, right, and then you have somebody that's

642
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: already in the world of television like fifty is, and

643
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: then somebody said, yo, you know they got a little

644
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: beef right now, it's like, oh shit, well let's hit

645
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 3: him up and see if he'll and fifty.

646
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: Is like, hell, yeah, I put the money and did

647
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: he shot all of this?

648
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: This this footage the camera guy that he was like, wait,

649
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: I don't have to shoot nothing but a couple of

650
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: interviews in now, oh this is a layup. So you

651
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, so I understand what you're saying,

652
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: but at the same time, it's like, this is docu.

653
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: This is stuff that is already being done, like fifties,

654
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: just coming in at the tail end of it, like, Okay,

655
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: I'll put some money behind it, put executive produce a

656
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: credit on it, and let's put it out.

657
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: And it's funny you bring that up, because this was

658
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, a very very very big

659
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: publication reached out to me based off some stuff we

660
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: said on our podcast about an entertainer, and they wanted

661
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: to quote, and it appeared like they had an entire

662
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: article ready to go about some of the sexual misconducts

663
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: of this person. And I never heard anything again, and

664
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: every now and they'd be like, damn, it's been like

665
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: almost three years since they had this entire big publication,

666
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: had this entire thing ready to go, and it never

667
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: came out. So to your point, I do think there

668
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: are a lot of people sitting around with ready to

669
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: go articles, documentaries all that, just waiting for the right

670
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: time to capitalize with the most amount of money, be like, hey,

671
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: I see what's going on over here. Just let you

672
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: know this is already done. We can get this out

673
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: in two weeks. So yeah, I think there's a lot

674
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: of people that have docs waiting on them.

675
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not mad at fifty for executive producing these.

676
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, it's it's

677
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: the business that he's in now. It's just as a

678
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: hip hop fan, as a as an MC and a

679
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: hip hop fan. It's a different route. It's not a

680
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: route that I thought we would see artists taking, you

681
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But yeah, I guess it's the

682
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: evolution of the dissim it's the evolution of fifty though. Yeah, right,

683
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: he's not just an MC. He's not just a rap anymore.

684
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: He's an executive producer in television and film. He's an actor,

685
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: he's you know, he's a lot of things. It's not

686
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: just this ain't just booboo just going into booth rapping.

687
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: This is not this is not that.

688
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: And fifty probably look at it like he's too old

689
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: to probably still be trying to really rap like that

690
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: unless he got a TV show, unless you got it,

691
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: But they give that that's part of his business.

692
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not, but we're not mad at that.

693
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: Like he's given us classic intros to those to those

694
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: to those uh to those shows. So it's like, if

695
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: that's the way he chooses to respond and do his

696
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: business now, which is the business that he's in.

697
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Listen, man, you gotta respect it.

698
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: And my crazy to say it is kind of the

699
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: natural evolution from the DVD era where recipes Shorty low

700
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: is walking through TI's projects and asking where he's at,

701
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Like is it just that evolution of when rappers were

702
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: beaver that do diss records, then they do something on

703
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: a DVD or on YouTube, we go to the neighborhood

704
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: Like this is kind of the natural.

705
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Evolution same of that.

706
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: So now what if all of our favorite rappers or

707
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: upcoming rappers start doing documentaries like everybody that got a problem,

708
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: Like if Ken Drake and Drake was it was it

709
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: rap songs, if it was documentaries, that's wild, bro, Yeah,

710
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: but it's wild because it would be wild if because

711
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: we've never seen a documentary from those guys, Like if

712
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: that was the first documentary.

713
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Ites like what are they doing?

714
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: But now the president is there, so now the door

715
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: is open for people to do that. If it's the

716
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: evolution of it's just another lane of entertainment like when

717
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: Jay did summer summer jam and he had the pictures

718
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: of Prodigy, right, It's like, oh shit, that was the

719
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: first time a lot of people saw those pictures, right, right,

720
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: So now let's just put the documented Let's let's interview

721
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: the ballet teacher that.

722
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: Was on that project that I'm just saying, yeah, but

723
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm just d yeah.

724
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: But imagine if Jay went that route though, Like we're

725
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: gonna go and it's like it's still and it's funny,

726
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: let's laugh, But it's like, what's wrong with a kid,

727
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how probably maybe six seven

728
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: years old.

729
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: And dance class, Like, what's wrong with that? Good?

730
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: Now?

731
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: If thes is good, if he left, if he left

732
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: the infamous video set and then went to go to ballet,

733
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: then it's like, yo, what pe doing? Like you know, yeah,

734
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: it's like now that's kind of like but as a

735
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: six seven.

736
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: Eight year old, it's like it was shock value and

737
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: it was a chink right in the almah right, and

738
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: did something to his credibility the street dude, because the

739
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: street dudes, I know never took ballet, right, So as

740
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: a street dude, that is you know what I'm saying,

741
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: I ain't super and nigga get shot stagged.

742
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: You was in it, you know, I mean and it

743
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: did shoes. We get it. We look at you at

744
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: a different light.

745
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: But it's so crazy because it's like as six years

746
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: why would you look at that in different life?

747
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: That's what that's like. I had a choice. I had

748
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: a choice. That's six years old, and tell my mom,

749
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to dance.

750
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: Also, why we don't care about facts? He put up

751
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: the said, I got the uh your ballery, I got

752
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: the pictures. I seen you. He put the photo up.

753
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: He's not dressed as a ballerina. Define he dresses Michael Jackson.

754
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: There's not a ballerina in sight. He's literally dressed like

755
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. And we all were like, yo, you're a ballerina.

756
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: It's like, that's a good point. That's a good That

757
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: was Halloween about that was Halloween fail?

758
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy. He ain't like thriller. Yeah, that was Halloween,

759
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: which expected me. I was Michael Jackson.

760
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure was Michael Jackson. Halloween.

761
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: Definitely Michael Jackson.

762
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Everybody was at one. It was to Michael Jackson. He

763
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: probably was Mike and beat It Mike me different albums. Yeah, yeah,

764
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: we'll see where this goes.

765
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Speaker 1: I want to say we were completely wrong about the

784
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Jackharlow announcement.

785
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: It's a song.

786
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: No, the album is coming out tonight tonight. Well it's

787
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: out now when they're yes, We thought we were getting.

788
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Like three singles before the entire thing we got no music,

789
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: nine songs. I'm kind of shocked.

790
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: Jack to the short albums.

791
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: But after three years of just like one or two records,

792
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: no real single, that's not really how Jack's formula has

793
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: been in the past five to seven years.

794
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: That's risky, risky or just a different approach. Why is

795
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: it risky? Why do you say risky a.

796
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Different approach as always risky when uh, yeah, I guess.

797
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: I guess it's just something different for your audience, something

798
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: that they're not used to you doing. So it's it's risky.

799
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: But I think that we just spoke about it non songs.

800
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: I kind of like that though. I kind of like

801
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: Jack just giving us that non songs. I don't know

802
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: what this sounds like. I love the video he gave us,

803
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: was that last year when he was walking through Manhattan,

804
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: like shinead O'Connor, like any of those songs that he

805
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: dropped those Lucy's on the track Listen is a song

806
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: titles out there?

807
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the track list up. It appears that

808
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: none of the records that came out, not even the

809
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: just Us Dojakat single is on this. So nine brand

810
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: new songs off the whim Why say this is risky

811
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: because if you go with Come Home the Kids Missu,

812
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: which is one thirteen. Again, I'm not a numbers person.

813
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. If the music is good,

814
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: the music is good, I don't care. I'm just saying

815
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: how risky it can what you pulled up the numbers

816
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: because Jack Harlow is an artist that has entered that

817
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: world when you're making records like nail Tech. Even if

818
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: that wasn't Jack's purpose when he went in the studio,

819
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: He's now entered the world where numbers do matter when

820
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: you're making records like that. And I thought it was

821
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: actually kind of great that he put out Paul's jack

822
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Man right after Come Home the Kids Missu because he

823
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: was getting put in that TikTok teeny bopper rapper shit

824
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, nah, a rap for real. And that

825
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: was cool that it sold thirty four thousand, which is

826
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: great but not coming off one thirteen.

827
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: But it was a mixtape. I felt like it was like,

828
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: let me just throw this out, no promotion. What's I

829
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: didn't know? I mean again, not that it matters. I

830
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: didn't know that it didn't do.

831
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have any singles. It was similar to just

832
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: putting out something like that, but it felt like one

833
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: of those hey just a reminder I could wrap. It

834
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: was all Chipmunk's soul samples, like I think it was

835
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: trying to win back crowds like meat.

836
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: That was like I remember when you.

837
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Used to like rap rap. I like jack Man a lot.

838
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: I hated the title, but you know, wow, I would

839
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: never say it. It's a wild title. So after Come

840
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: Home the Kids Miss You was about three four years ago. Yeah,

841
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: I think you being in the A list rap category,

842
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy to just put out a nine

843
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: track shit with no single.

844
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: But he put out like a couple of Lucy So

845
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: does that not start the rollout?

846
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: It did, But like when he did what Maul was

847
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: talking about to Set You Free and Tranquility stuff when

848
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: he was in the city. Then I thought when he

849
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: put out just Us with Doja Cat, like, oh all right,

850
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: we're starting, and I really fucked with that record, but

851
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: it was still closer to the nail tech stuff and

852
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: like all right, the labels like, hey guy, we know

853
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: you like to rap, but come on, let's sell some units.

854
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: That was what year did that Dojah catch? That was

855
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, yeah, about the year ago.

856
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: That was a lot that didn't last long enough to

857
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: then go into an album. This is a completely different project,

858
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: so I think it's it's risky. I'm excited. I'm excited

859
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: because it is this rollout and maybe it's nothing like

860
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: come home the Kids Miss You, But we'll see.

861
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: We've seen this done though.

862
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: We've seen like the pre album rollout extensive, and we've

863
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: seen the post album roll out. Sometimes you got a

864
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: factor in like what's going to be more beneficial? Is

865
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: it really like setting it up and then it drops

866
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: and you do a little bit and then you go

867
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: on to roll or is it like drop the music,

868
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: see what people gravitating towards, and then't.

869
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: Do your rollout while the music is out.

870
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: So now every time somebody discovers a new conversation or

871
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: what have you, they go right to it and now

872
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: you're up your running up the streams.

873
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: I think post these days is way, way, way more important.

874
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: But with artists like Jack, artists like Bruno Mars on

875
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: this last project that really didn't know no pre shit,

876
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: no real like one single that was two weeks away

877
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: from the project, you see difference and numbers matter with

878
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: those types of artists now, like someone like Dochi post

879
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: promo is so important to her because she was still

880
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: on the come up and then TD locked in like

881
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: not everyone knows this girl, So let's put something out

882
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and then work the records that are on this project.

883
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: That's the best strategy with artists like that. But you

884
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: need both when you're someone like Jack Carlow.

885
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: I think Jack, I think this is a.

886
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: An interesting position for Jack because I think this project,

887
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: based on what it sounds like, it's gonna tell us

888
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: which direction they really trying to go with Jack.

889
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: Is he rap? Is he more pop star? Like? What

890
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: are you? Where is he going?

891
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: Because when you have a song with Dojah, now everybody

892
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: can get a Doja feature, right, you have one of

893
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 3: the biggest songs in one of the projects with Drake,

894
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: and then you have you know what I'm saying success

895
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: like you said with Nail Cheking those types of songs, and.

896
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Your feature with Drake ends with him saying you know,

897
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Jack is the next one up. Yeah. But so now

898
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: this project non songs. What does this sound like? Is

899
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: this rap rap? Is this you know, more rap? Pop?

900
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: You singing?

901
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: Is it more melodic? Is it more like I think

902
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: this project is important for Jack's his sound because it's

903
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: like we still don't know which route Jack haller with,

904
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: Like we don't know where we place him yet.

905
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: Or where they're allowing him to go.

906
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like because there's so much

907
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: Paul's riding on it, you know what I'm saying, Like

908
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: you got you know what, we know what Atlantic does?

909
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You got Jen Now? Obviously

910
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: they got they say in it. Obviously those guys not

911
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: to make incredible records and make history. So it's like,

912
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: or does Jack finally have the freedom to do whatever

913
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: he wants to do on this project? You know what

914
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like we really got to listen to the

915
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: music and see because it really you know what I'm saying,

916
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: it's like the Triple stands, it could go in any direction.

917
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I mean even with Jen now, like

918
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't sign Jack when he was making

919
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: music like nail Tech like the Sweet Action though that

920
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: was just Jack rapping. To me, I feel like Jack

921
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: is more paulse Jackman than he is the nail Tech stuff.

922
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: I agree.

923
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: That's where I'm I'm on most out of like This

924
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: is going to be kind of the defining fork in

925
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: the road for you of do you want to follow

926
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: the year the next up darling rapper or do you

927
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: want to just keep rapping and with no rollout? Though

928
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: makes me feel like Jack is like Dough. I don't

929
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: really want to do that.

930
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: Other shit, just rapping, Like I think I can make

931
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: a nice career well for a rapper, for a guy

932
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: who can rap, you know what I'm saying, Like we've

933
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: seen early on his music, his YouTube videos, etc. For

934
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: a guy who can really rap. When they start saying, yo,

935
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: you rapping like Drake or you Drake Light. You know

936
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, that like does something to your ego

937
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: that's like I'd get busy, not just say that Drake

938
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: can get busy.

939
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: But we know what that means when they say that

940
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: that connotation. So yeah, he might be rebelling. He might

941
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: be bucking against the system, like now let me just rap,

942
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

943
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: Because I think, I mean, it's incredible and deserve that

944
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: he does like Barclay Center. But I'm sure he probably

945
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: got a little bit of the Steve Lacy feeling when

946
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: he was going to his shows on that last tour

947
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: of like, this is a lot of TikTok kids. This

948
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: is not really who I set out to rap for.

949
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think Jack is that. I don't think he's

950
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: just chasing fame or whatever new record. I think he

951
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: really just loves to rap. So maybe he's making that decision.

952
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: I saw who was showing up to my shows, and

953
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: of course my core was there. But you can't just

954
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: have a core sellout Barclay Center unless you're fucking J Cole.

955
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sure he looked at that crowd and

956
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it's a lot of TikTok children in here,

957
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: and I can't sustain that for the rest of my career.

958
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough for Jack though, Like, if we're

959
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: being honest, it's gonna be tough.

960
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

961
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Why because this is all right when you're a white rapper. Yeah,

962
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: thank you, bro.

963
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: It's only it's like, Bro, I don't you can't come

964
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: in here and try to like Eminem krap.

965
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: But he was on TRL a lot.

966
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Eminem was a pop star. So this is

967
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So Jack can't fight, he can't buck

968
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: against the system.

969
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I got it pop, But Jack did something that I

970
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: don't think any white rapper has ever done. Correct me wrong,

971
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: coming off the cover. I don't think I've ever heard

972
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: a white rapper play at the club, play at a kickback,

973
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: play at the party. Jack Carlow is the only white

974
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: rapper I know that I could throw on around a.

975
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: Bunch of girls. Is he more Mac Miller?

976
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Matt Mack with a certain type of chick that I

977
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: would particularly like to hang out with. Would definitely fuck

978
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: with Mac if I threw it on in the car.

979
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I go with the i G Batties,

980
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: if I'm on a boat in Miami, I've never heard

981
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: a white rapper play the way Little Baby plays at

982
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: a spot. I've never seen a white rapper do that.

983
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, that's the point. That's the point I've never

984
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: thought about. Of course, there's women that like other white rabbit.

985
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.

986
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: But but if you're it's the music, Yeah, nail strip

987
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: clubs like everything? Was it the first class that record? Yeah,

988
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: the first class like those just pop like first classify.

989
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: They're sampling pop record. Yeah.

990
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, it's like he gotta go pop.

991
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: Maybe he the pop, Larry June.

992
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm saying.

993
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: Like women like Larry, women love Larry. They listen to

994
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: Larry June. They like Larry June, they like your style.

995
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And it's like, Okay, Larry,

996
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: he got some bars, but Larry is more cool here,

997
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: shit talker. I don't really look at Larry JUNI to

998
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: bar you down. He gonna just talk fly shit. You're

999
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 3: gonna talk shit on every song. Sound it's gonna sound cool,

1000
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: You're gonna look cool. I don't know if Jack want

1001
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: to be that, if you want to be Mac Miller,

1002
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: if you want to be Drake, if he want to be.

1003
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he tried with Come Home to Kids,

1004
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: Miss You to capitalize on the moment he had with

1005
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: the two big singles and still try to make music

1006
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: that he liked, Like he brought Pharrell on and tried

1007
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: to do his Pharrell ship, Like he tried to find

1008
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: a good balance, and I think he got frustrated. And

1009
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: then Pauls gave us jack Man right after, like yeah, nope,

1010
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: let me go back to soul sample Chipmunk, shit, I

1011
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: can't keep doing this.

1012
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but especially being able to do that project. They

1013
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: might it might be more pressure for him to come back,

1014
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: Like you can't do that two times in a row.

1015
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like we need because we

1016
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: know what he's signed to, know that, we know what

1017
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: they on over there. You know what I'm saying, They like, Yo,

1018
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: we need to ring the register. We need especially you

1019
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: are one of our like marquee acts. You know what

1020
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, you can't just do a vanity project

1021
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 3: back to back to back because to the point of

1022
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: him being a white rapper, that means that the door

1023
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: is always open to certain things that other artists are

1024
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: not going to get. The opportunities is there to do

1025
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: shit the other artists are not gonna get. They're not

1026
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: gonna let you waste that back to back to back. Yeah,

1027
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: he had the movie Look with White Man Can't Jump

1028
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: to and he.

1029
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: Was with Ben and Matt Damon and I forgot the

1030
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: name of the movie. It was a great movie though. Yeah,

1031
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean he died in the first time, So this

1032
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. He was still acting with Ben

1033
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: and Matt like the big deal. That's a that's a thing.

1034
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: So listen, the justice Dojacat record is more in the

1035
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: lane of nail Tech in first Class. So I was like, oh, yeah,

1036
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Atlantic's not letting him, so to me, this is me

1037
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: just giving complete conspiracies. I think because this came out

1038
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: March twenty first, twenty twenty five, literally a yeah year.

1039
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta, you guys are trying to keep me

1040
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: in this fucking lane. I don't want to do the

1041
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: shame more because the Dojacat record did great, but he

1042
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: didn't stick like first Class or nail Tech.

1043
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: Well you know, I mean, I think he was probably

1044
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: like see work that goes along with that. Sure, if

1045
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: the artist is not willing to do it, because the

1046
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: record was a record that they could have made, go yeah.

1047
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 3: But if the artist is not willing to do it,

1048
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not gonna go

1049
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: but so far, but they shot a video. It's a

1050
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: great video too. Yeah he was, he was at least

1051
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: into it in that much.

1052
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: In that regard.

1053
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm curious, very very curious where this album

1054
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: is gonna go.

1055
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm about to say, because I like Jack fuck

1056
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: with you, but with this sound like I'm mad Drama

1057
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: didn't send us to fucking the album before it came out.

1058
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: But like, I want to know what this shit sound like?

1059
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Cool lake man, this is this is all right, Jack?

1060
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: And you come on and you give us these non

1061
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: tracks and you want here giving us pop songs.

1062
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: That that's where you at, that's what we're gonna place you.

1063
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I also say, because I do think Jack Carlow is

1064
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: a great artist. That also maybe tells me he's very

1065
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: confident to put out nonose I got none songs, no

1066
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: roll out here you go.

1067
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm extremely confident in this album. And there's no he

1068
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: didn't well not we don't know if there are any features,

1069
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: but he didn't listen non songs. No, what if you

1070
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: don't got no features? I mean listen, what if you

1071
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 3: produced it all hisself and no features?

1072
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.

1073
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't

1074
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: lose their mind.

1075
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Only one artist. Allow all.

1076
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Listen, stop producing your own songs.

1077
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Stop Like, I get it, that's a skill set. But

1078
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: it's okay to like the world we spoke to. It's

1079
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: okay to put other producers in the room and gets something. Yeah,

1080
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: it's okay. There's nothing wrong with that.

1081
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: The feature in the studio with Jack all those songs

1082
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: that I don't think is going to be on there.

1083
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: Rough the timing. I don't remember that that was what

1084
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: three They can only be one artists I'm talking about. Okay, Yeah,

1085
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that's on there. That's not on there?

1086
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, not only I hear it, but the confidence

1087
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: that responding with I don't think it's on there.

1088
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: Who do you when you think of outside of Kanye obviously,

1089
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: who do you think of when you think of rappers

1090
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 4: who are actually able to produce their.

1091
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 5: Own records and do a good job and.

1092
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: Do a good job and do a good job here? None? Really?

1093
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: I like rock MANSI I like ro no reduction.

1094
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah rock, but that's rock is not I don't ever

1095
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 3: want to hear him work with all the producers because

1096
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna change who rock is. We go alchemists, But

1097
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: that's kind of that, that's one of the same. That

1098
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: sound is so similar. It's that boom bat real raw

1099
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: like out of the pocket flow. But like, I don't

1100
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: want to hear rock go get like a Swiss beat. No,

1101
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying, Like I don't want that. I

1102
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: don't don't don't do that, like keep it, keep it.

1103
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: There may may be conductor maybe, like you said, Al

1104
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: conducted those guys maybe, but we can't get too far

1105
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: away from the rock sound. But yes, you're right. Rock

1106
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: is definitely his last project. Incredible like with him and

1107
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: Arrow and all of them did like incredible project.

1108
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: Outside of Southern Playlistic, Cadillac Funky Music, our Cast produced

1109
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Big Boy and three Stacks produced every album.

1110
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's Dungeon Family.

1111
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: Though, no know what I'm saying. They did Dungeon Family

1112
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: on the first one, go check the credits. After that

1113
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: that was Big Boy and and Andre. I mean the

1114
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: they immediately said the Dungeon taught us how to produce,

1115
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: like we look at Really.

1116
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: I never knew that. I thought always thought they had

1117
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: outside production.

1118
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean you always thought it was Rico and but

1119
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: that was the first project and then from there Outcast

1120
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of did their their own thing. I think David

1121
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: Banner is one. I think Pimp C is one. I

1122
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of rapper producers that maybe don't

1123
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: flaunt it the way Kanye did, so we don't realize

1124
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: that they're making all of their beats.

1125
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: Kanye obviously Kanye saw Yeah, Yeah, Kanye obviously the best

1126
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: to do it. But but like, but, like Toy said,

1127
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: rock is probably one that gets it right. And I'm

1128
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: thinking about right like artist in the now. Obviously I

1129
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: could list a bunch of like classic producer MC yeah rockers.

1130
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a legacy, but.

1131
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: He's yeah, yeah, he's one of those you know what

1132
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like he's somebody that's still super relevant right now,

1133
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: put out something. You know, the merch go crazy, the

1134
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 3: pop ups go craz he so he's one of those

1135
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: guys that's all his esthetics. Yeah, well he's just a

1136
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: fly nigga. But I ain't gonna lie. I don't want

1137
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: to hear Jack do it though. No, yeah, I don't

1138
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: want to.

1139
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone's thinking.

1140
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying that because We's how we

1141
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: started a conversation.

1142
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: Like I was just being an asshole about it, you

1143
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying because you said no features, but

1144
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: it's very few.

1145
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: Q tip right, legacy if he's putting out I.

1146
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: Mean as far as like the mac Miller is definitely

1147
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: up there. Latter half of Max's career, he was producing

1148
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: everything himself.

1149
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: For sure. Russ also does it. Russ for sure.

1150
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: But then also Russ is one that I like when

1151
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: he does his Chomp projects and just gets bank and

1152
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: everybody else do that. But yeah, he's there's a lot

1153
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: more than I think people realize. Yeah, they just again

1154
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: don't flaunt it. And it's weird to put your own

1155
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: tag on your own song where you're also rapping.

1156
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: Like I just.

1157
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you're speaking fourth personnel.

1158
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: Another one that does a good job and people are

1159
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: not gonna give him the credit because you know, they

1160
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: probably don't look at him as that bit of a

1161
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: rapper hit.

1162
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: Boy hip what you're right now, that's the one that's

1163
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: the end to right. There a lot of the.

1164
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: Project together, but both of them rapp really good over

1165
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: their own beat. Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like

1166
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: they don't they don't give away a lot of kind

1167
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: of like I know other rappers here like I would

1168
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: have I would crazy right right exactly. Y'all might think

1169
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm nuts, but I don't think j D is a

1170
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: bad rapper.

1171
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: Jamai dupree.

1172
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: She rapped.

1173
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

1174
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 3: That was to say he just don't rap a lot

1175
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: like he does, but he talked about it like when

1176
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: he was doing the Magic City like promo. He was

1177
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: saying like for that first album, they made him rap

1178
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: because he was doing so much production and writing and

1179
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: popping and ship. He was he had so much of

1180
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 3: everything else. There was like the only thing left for

1181
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: you to do is put out your own album, and

1182
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: that's how that happened. But he said he had no

1183
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: intentions on being a rapper. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1184
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 3: I got white Cliff there produce a rapper.

1185
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he don't rap a lot though, I.

1186
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: Mean, but if for what he's out between Carnival and

1187
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: everything with the Fujis, I'm still putting them there big create.

1188
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: I think is there more on the underground side Manny Fresh,

1189
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: if he wrapped more? He was right though, like with

1190
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Times and stuff, I think he was there. He's the

1191
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: hook master too. We also left out probably the most

1192
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: important one, Havoc have. It's probably top five best rapper

1193
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: producer of wals Off for sure.

1194
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 3: But then what I'm saying, like, if we going into

1195
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: classic didn't, then I'm throwing large professor in there. Then

1196
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm throwing you know, I mean E. P. M. D.

1197
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: Produced all of these ship you know what I'm saying,

1198
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm throwing down there. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1199
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: if we go classic, then I think it's a lot

1200
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: more and you rock him. Yea true, you know what

1201
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1202
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: So I guess for modern when we say Tyler would

1203
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: be number one, Yes, but is he producing? Yes, Yeah,

1204
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: A lot of that ship is so you literally put

1205
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: on the cover of Igor. This was written, created, he mixed, engineered,

1206
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: like he prints.

1207
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Psycho with it. So he's number one, hands down, He

1208
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: might be. He might be right behind Kanye maybe.

1209
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: I think as far as hands on, I'm not saying

1210
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: what's better or what's worse. I want to make that

1211
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: very very clear. If you go through their desographies and

1212
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: look at who did the most for their projects, Tyler's

1213
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: probably been more hands on than Kanye West in the

1214
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: latter part of his career. Yeah, but I think I'm

1215
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: fine with Kanye bringing in other people. I think that's

1216
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: part of Newson.

1217
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Tyler really sits that he does.

1218
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: He does, He's very Tyler's such a musical person, you

1219
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like he studies music, he's out bordlines.

1220
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: I would call him a genius. He's a musical genius

1221
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: because he's he's a student of the game. He's a savant,

1222
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like he understands, he understands collaboration,

1223
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: he understands instrumentation, you know what I'm saying, Like he

1224
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: knows what to do for his records to take them

1225
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: where they need to go, or who to bring in

1226
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: to take them where they need to go. And I

1227
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: think the versatility is really what speaks to me, because

1228
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: from flower Boy to Igor, to Cherry Baum to Call.

1229
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, all of these different

1230
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: records have a different sonic landscape to them too. He's

1231
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: and he's a different he's embody in a different character

1232
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: each time, you know what I'm saying.

1233
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: Every time.

1234
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just gave you. He just gave you fired. Yeah,

1235
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: he just gave you fire Tyler's stuff. And then and

1236
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: then don't don't go to the show because then the

1237
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: show is crazy. That's a whole other production. Yeah, he

1238
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: takes this shit serious. He's see the Kanye Ferrell baby

1239
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: for sure. And I'm not just saying this because baby

1240
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: D is here. I do think J Cole gets too

1241
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: much flak. His beats are not as bad as people

1242
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: make them out to be. No, we just prefer that

1243
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 3: level of rapping with that level of producer. Yeah, because

1244
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: his level of wrapping is lovel production are.

1245
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: Not the same.

1246
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: He's up here. We just wondered what it could be.

1247
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: But Cole's beats are not as bad as people say

1248
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: they are.

1249
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: No, But it's just like you said, for his skill set,

1250
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, could we not? Can we just

1251
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: go get like Alchemists a conductor or Pharrell or like, can.

1252
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: We go you know what I mean? Like, can we

1253
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: just take the joints? Can we take it? Can we

1254
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: take this to another level? That's all while we stay

1255
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: in wrap nerd world.

1256
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: I did see a list on Twitter that said the

1257
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: top ten mcs without a classic solo album started at

1258
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: one Grand Poob but two method Man, Jadakiss, Fab Black Thought,

1259
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: Inspected Deck, Ludacris, Buster Rhymes, Putt in parentheses, Debatable, Andre

1260
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: three thousand cannabis.

1261
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: Wait, the top ten mc mcs with out of classic

1262
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 3: y'all just you just y'all just said.

1263
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: I was right next to you in the baller shop.

1264
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: I think we're the reason for this list. By the way,

1265
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: niggas just checking Jadak and j Cole go to the

1266
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: same I thought.

1267
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: I sat there, Max said, and other guys in the

1268
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: shop echoed the sentiments that Jadakiss has three classic albums.

1269
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: M did they say three or two?

1270
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: They said three? What was the I think I saw

1271
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: the clip and they said three. Somebody said three, and

1272
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 3: I was like, three is a stretch. Okay, kiss the game?

1273
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: Goodbye? What the last kiss of death? And to me

1274
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: would kiss of death?

1275
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: That's the game?

1276
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Goodbye?

1277
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: First and second album?

1278
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the first two. I think the first two.

1279
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: You know what I think you think Jada Kis's first

1280
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: two albums are. I think I think the first one

1281
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: more than anything. But I think that classic. Yes, small fuck,

1282
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: here's the issue, here's the issue. Let me let me

1283
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: just let me, let me say this whole thing and

1284
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: then get y'all met. I think that the anticipation that

1285
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: we what met with initially it was so high, was

1286
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: a hard baugh to reach because we love him as

1287
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: an MC and we love what he did with the Locks,

1288
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: so we was expecting so much when we heard that

1289
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: when we heard the album. But if you go back

1290
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: and listen to the album, the album is gonna be

1291
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 3: they deep is like it's the game.

1292
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: Go bye. It's tough. That's my point, though.

1293
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 3: I think there's a difference between classic and difference between

1294
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: good albums.

1295
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 2: It's hard to have a classic album.

1296
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: I would put that album on and if I got

1297
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: a fifty minute drive, I put the album on and

1298
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: let it play and ride out to it.

1299
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1300
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: Is it a classic album though? Or is it just

1301
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 3: a good album? That's the difference, and it's so. I

1302
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: think classic is the test of time too, like replay value,

1303
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: like we're still going back to it because it's certain

1304
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: albums that came out around that time that you, I'm

1305
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: not listening to this ship you not. You might play

1306
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: the single, you're not gonna sit and let the body

1307
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: of work play. And I think that a certain times,

1308
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: certain albums, certain albums out the date, we call it

1309
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: instant classic out the gate. You know this shit feel

1310
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be timeless. I listened to this forever,

1311
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: and then it's certain shit you go back to and

1312
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: you just like, damn, this shit really rocking, like I

1313
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: think maybe we was too. I think Volume two is

1314
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: another one of those, you know what I'm saying, Or

1315
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: Volume one. I think Volume one is another one of

1316
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: those where people just were so harsh on it, like

1317
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: the way they sunshine it. Sunshine is a tough record.

1318
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: We hated the video. This was so different from what

1319
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: Jay was trying to do, but he had done already.

1320
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: But it's a fucking great I don't know, He's still

1321
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 3: get you for sure, But that's what I'm saying. I

1322
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: just think that we get so caught up and just

1323
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: throwing out the word classic though, Well, this is to

1324
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: ask you.

1325
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: Then, what is the worst classic album in your opinion?

1326
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: So I have a gauge to see if if Kiss

1327
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: of Death is below or above, that is that it's

1328
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: an oxy moron, like it's an unfair classic, because of

1329
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: course we have the standards that we already know that

1330
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: these we know Illmatic is a classic that goes without saying.

1331
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: It was gonna sit there and argue that what is

1332
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: what would be that but lower than Illmatic? Like what's

1333
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: the worst classic album? You know what?

1334
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: And again, we just had this conversation with the fellas

1335
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: at the shop, and you know, and I understood the room.

1336
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 3: It was older guys in there from a different era

1337
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: of hip hop, so I understood why they were saying

1338
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 3: what they were saying but to say Jadakiss has two

1339
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: or three have many albums they said that were classics.

1340
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: And then to say Drake has no classic albums, Oh yeah, no,

1341
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: that's wild.

1342
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: But dude, you got to know your audience.

1343
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: But right, but you understand what I'm saying. It's just

1344
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 3: like I can understand if that's not your preferred rapper,

1345
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 3: you're preferred artist. There's no denying that Drake is one

1346
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: of the greatest recording artists of his generation, of his

1347
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: era for sure, who has classic albums? So when somebody says, Okay,

1348
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 3: this rapper has three, two or three classic albums and

1349
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: this guy who has dominated music for fifteen years has none.

1350
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all subjective.

1351
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: Of course, that's all subjective in your audits who you're

1352
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 3: talking to. I get that, But some things are just like,

1353
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 3: what are we talking about, but.

1354
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: A barbershop in Brooklyn with forty year olds, Yes, you're

1355
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna get that. If you went to the Scarborough food court,

1356
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: mall get everyone saying Drake has a classic.

1357
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: You make But yeah, you're going to Toronto to get that.

1358
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: I understand that.

1359
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: Say, we were in New York talking about kiss, but

1360
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: I understand that.

1361
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying in just music period, it's a lot of

1362
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: artists that I recognized as being crazy talented that got

1363
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: classic music.

1364
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: They're not. I wouldn't go see them. I wouldn't listen

1365
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: to it.

1366
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: But I'm there's no doubt about it that this fucking

1367
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: artist is. I don't listen to Beyonce. I probably don't

1368
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: have no Beyonce. Unfortunately, I'm.

1369
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: I'll listen to it.

1370
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: I don't listen to Beyonce like you will never hear

1371
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: me just play put on a Beyonce album, put on

1372
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 3: the Beyonce song like it just wouldn't happen that. I'm

1373
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: not her audience. I'm not who she's making. I recognize

1374
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: I recognize her incredible carter on the way here.

1375
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm listening to.

1376
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 3: I recognize her incredible talent. But I'm not listening like

1377
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm not going back and playing Beyonce like.

1378
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: What you listen to?

1379
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: You?

1380
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: I ain't got that kepboard called in might right? You

1381
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: like what like that's what you? But you know what

1382
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: it is? You know what?

1383
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: The classic is vast majority, right, even if there's pockets

1384
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: of people that don't like it, might be people that

1385
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: don't fuck with fifty. But the vast majority of the

1386
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: population says, Get rich Client is Trying is a classic album, right,

1387
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: so I think it also leans to like that's a classic.

1388
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: Get rich of Dot Trina is not a classic. If

1389
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: you go back and listen, what's a classic. It's a

1390
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: great album.

1391
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Worry about the fucking swing.

1392
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: Class because if you go back and listen to get

1393
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: Richard dot Trent, it's a great album.

1394
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: And the impact, the impact is why I think people

1395
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: call it a classic when they drop everything around fifty he's.

1396
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: You know, bulletproof vest Yeah, fifty mania. I understand that.

1397
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying when you go back and listen to it,

1398
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: the album to me, I wouldn't say that's a classic album.

1399
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: You said, man, I was.

1400
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: I was speaking from all speak for yourself. I think

1401
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 4: that get Richard I Trying is a classic album. But

1402
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: that's why coming with music or to impact.

1403
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: Let's let's go through the music real quick. I'm not

1404
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: going to skip any I'm not going to do the highlights.

1405
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read.

1406
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: Starts with what up? Gangst what the intro with two

1407
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: quarters falling? Right? What you like?

1408
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: Who you get into? That's six second ship and was

1409
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: like worry heard that was Is that two quarters? Was

1410
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: that a fifty fifty? It's it's what Mano put on

1411
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: his single artwork. It's fifty five cents.

1412
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: This guy's crazy. What up? Gangster?

1413
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: Patiently waiting with vingem many men in the club? I

1414
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: all the time heat if I can't Bloodhound back down.

1415
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: P I M P Like my style is crazy crazy

1416
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: crazy a classic? Yes, I hate that song. It's not

1417
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: my favorite song on the album. It's definitely not. It's

1418
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: definitely not.

1419
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: It's in comparison to the rest of the track listing.

1420
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 3: It's not my favorite. Is it's a past p IMT.

1421
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we're playing I'm playing if I if I'm

1422
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: washing the dishes in the album is playing.

1423
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm not running to dry my hand to skip that

1424
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: that's gonna play.

1425
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: You can't say p I P P I M P

1426
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 4: isn't a classic because people's parents know that. So that

1427
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 4: was a huge song.

1428
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: It was a Thomi's record. If it's in the body

1429
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: body of work like yeah, nah like my style of

1430
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: twenty one questions, don't push me got to make it

1431
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: to having bonus tracks. Whangster You're not like Me lives

1432
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: on the line.

1433
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: Good class.

1434
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I just telling me what a classic album is? You

1435
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: just I'm confused.

1436
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think it's a really I

1437
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: think it's a dope album. I got to hear classic.

1438
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: What's your classic Drake?

1439
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 4: Then I was gonna say, because I was riding with

1440
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: you with the Drake thing, But if you saying that

1441
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 4: Drake has classic I was, but get Richard die Trant

1442
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: is it a classic?

1443
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 6: Then?

1444
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: Now I just can't.

1445
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: I think I think get rich of d Trine is

1446
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: an incredible I don't know if it's a classic. I

1447
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 3: wouldn't show classic, like my classic albums are like thriller. Okay,

1448
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: what's about hip hop? But okay, I'm classic album. I

1449
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: didn't say classic rap, classic RBA. You were talking about

1450
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: classic albums about Kiss. I thought we talk about hip hop?

1451
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: No, but but not.

1452
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: But away from that even I was just saying classic albums,

1453
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: that's what. But that's part of the conversation of what

1454
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, how can you say Jadakiss has two

1455
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: or three classic albums but Drake doesn't, because Drake isn't

1456
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 3: barring you down like Kiss.

1457
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a classic album. But a thriller is

1458
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: the mark then where everyone's fuck nobody got this because because,

1459
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, the closest thing I saw in the

1460
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: early two thousands that hit not like thriller obviously, but

1461
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: like a thriller, that wave when Get Richard I Try

1462
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: and came out. It took over the world. That's why,

1463
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: even if you weren't even a hip hop fan, the

1464
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: impact was incredible. But the music was dead too, because

1465
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: I get the music was That's what I'm saying. I

1466
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: think it's a really I think the album is a

1467
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: dope album. I don't know if that's a classic album though. Okay,

1468
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: so let's a dope album.

1469
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 4: Let's go back to your point that you were making

1470
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: about classics being like they have to affect everybody, right,

1471
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: Like you said, you don't listen to Beyonce, but you're

1472
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 4: very much aware of for talent. What would you say

1473
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: Beyonce's classic album? Is I want to hear this because

1474
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 4: you're not a Beyonce fan.

1475
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 6: Uh?

1476
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: What was the one? Was it Lemonade?

1477
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Lemonade? To me?

1478
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Is it classic?

1479
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: As a Beyonce fan?

1480
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 5: I agree with you, So that would say?

1481
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: What was the other?

1482
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: Is it Dangerously Love? Was that the name of one

1483
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: of the albums.

1484
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 5: Is the first.

1485
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: I think that's a classic album. I think Dangerous is

1486
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: a classic album.

1487
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I think Lemonade Danje Love and if I see

1488
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 3: the artwork, I could I could better point it out.

1489
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 4: She has a few so you're not so you're you're

1490
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: not a fan obviously of the music on Lemonade, but

1491
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: you're aware of the fact that it's a classic album,

1492
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 4: so you're able.

1493
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: To when I say I don't listen to Beyonce, meaning

1494
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 3: like in my time in the crib or in the car,

1495
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm not turning on.

1496
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: Beyonce to listen to it like that.

1497
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 3: If Beyonce put it out on tonight, just like everybody

1498
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: else in the world, I'm running to listen to.

1499
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: No that makes sense, you know what I'm saying. I'm

1500
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: saying I recognize her greatness.

1501
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: She's one of the greatest artists ever when you come

1502
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: to live performance music vocally, she checks all of the boxes.

1503
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 2: She's a legendary artist like I'm not, but I don't.

1504
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: That's not the music that I listen to on a

1505
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: daily basis. I don't listen to Beyonest on a daily basis,

1506
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: but I know she's one of the greatest artists ever.

1507
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm not so that's what I'm saying.

1508
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 3: In that environment of being in the shop with older

1509
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: guys from New York City from a different time, I

1510
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 3: get it. But there's some things that are just unanimous

1511
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: though in conversation of music. I think get Richard trying

1512
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: so they can't.

1513
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: Take away from get Richard.

1514
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 5: Iye trying.

1515
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying again me because I don't

1516
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: think it's unanimous that Drink is a classic. I personally

1517
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: think he is more than one. But that's not a

1518
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: unanimous thing the way get rich is to the world.

1519
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: So are we talking about I would have said ten

1520
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: out of ten people would have said get rich as

1521
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: a classic. Now I'm gonna say not out of ten,

1522
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: because you're the first person I ever met.

1523
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: I think with You're going to get an incredible album.

1524
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: So is it only a classic if the masks, if

1525
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: the masses acknowledged that it's a classic, right, Because the

1526
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 4: album that I think is it is a classic Drake

1527
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: album would be different from what the masses who would

1528
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: say he has When the masses would pick take Care,

1529
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 4: I would not pick take Care. I don't think his

1530
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: aged as well as views has right.

1531
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: Nothing was the same. It's a classic in Drake's catalog. Yes,

1532
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: do you think nothing was the same?

1533
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: It's a classic.

1534
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, What's what's better? P I m P or Worse Behavior?

1535
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: Worse Behavior? I hate p I M P.

1536
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what you heard of the p I

1537
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: m P. Might be the same song. I'm not gonna

1538
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 4: lie word like Gears, I'm going with worse that's my ship.

1539
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: Real five to my City or p I m P.

1540
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 4: I played three or five of my City, but to

1541
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 4: P I P is just not a good I would

1542
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: pick p I m P. Yeah, Real five, I would

1543
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: think I would. I skipped three oh five every fun time.

1544
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: I just I just I missed that, Tom But what

1545
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: a time, Bro, what a time?

1546
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1547
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm just about what's your quintessential rap classics? Then, just

1548
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: so we can get engaged since give Rich is not there,

1549
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: because at that point, yeah, I don't think you would

1550
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: ever argue Kiss as a classic album if you don't think.

1551
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: Rich is right. Because when I went to that, that

1552
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: was like I felt like that was a no brainer.

1553
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1554
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: I would Kiss.

1555
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: That was general consensus that everybody you know felt like

1556
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: that was a classic, so just to hit but a

1557
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: lot of.

1558
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: But a lot of it. But there's like that.

1559
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: But in our culture, and this is something we do

1560
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: a lot, we'll just say something is a classic because

1561
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: everybody else is a classic. Like a lot of people

1562
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: think Scarface is a classic. That movie is not a

1563
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 3: classic movie. That movie is actually terrible. I don't think

1564
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: you're wrong, But with get Rich, I don't think that's

1565
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: the case. That's what I'm saying, not saying that, I'm

1566
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: just saying in our culture, well, we do a lot

1567
01:05:59,480 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: what we see.

1568
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: Yo, No, that's a class a terrible, terrible movie.

1569
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: Movie.

1570
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: Why storyline? The way it shot? Like, what are you

1571
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: basing it on the storyline? The story?

1572
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the acting was okay, but just the storyline terrible.

1573
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: I said it was okay, but it's I mean, you

1574
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: got you got two of the biggest actors of their

1575
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: time with al Pacino and.

1576
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: What's her name? Ship?

1577
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: Uh?

1578
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: I forgot her name, Michelle Pfeiffer.

1579
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: But it's just that when you go back and look

1580
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: at it, you're like, this ship is This ain't no

1581
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: classic movie. But because so many people in our culture

1582
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: deemed it the classic, we see the poster. People got

1583
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: the poster in their house and the barber shops, and

1584
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 3: we see the imagery of the movie so much we're like, nah, yeah,

1585
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: that's a no. No, you can go back and poke

1586
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: holes in it, you know what I'm saying. I still

1587
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: think for what it was, for what it's worth and

1588
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: what it did and the impacting all the things, like,

1589
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: it's definitely classic elements to it, but it's the greatest

1590
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: movie I haven't seen in my life.

1591
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 2: No, like people make it out to be. You could

1592
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: go back and poke holes in it.

1593
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: But again, like so there's also like impact and stay

1594
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: in power and replay value and all those things go

1595
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: into it, you know what I'm saying. But movies a

1596
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: little bit different than music in that art is it different,

1597
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: But I think it's just different levels. Music is like

1598
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 3: writing with the vocals sound like and the production around it,

1599
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: you know.

1600
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But like, you got the acting, you

1601
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: got the cast.

1602
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: In you can have somebody who did a great job

1603
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 3: in the scene that had a terrible scene partner. So

1604
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: now do you say al Pacino did great, but we don'

1605
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 3: fuck with Manolo in this scene. Whereas when it's an

1606
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: album for the most part. You You you were responsible

1607
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: for carrying the way to the project as the artist.

1608
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: I get the late artists, but they.

1609
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: Put that on the lead actors sometimes before they'll put

1610
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: on the director just because the actors are more famous

1611
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: when they say that movie. But if you're not in

1612
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: a scene, and it's like, at the same time, that

1613
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: actor just showed up to do his scenes. He wasn't

1614
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: involved in the ending process. But if you did not direct.

1615
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: But if you're lighting, you're not gonna take They're not

1616
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: gonna blame you for a bad scene if you're not

1617
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 3: in it, even if you're the lead actor.

1618
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: All right, So nas gets a lot of even though

1619
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I disagree with it. It's it's a narrative that's been

1620
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: going on. He picks bad beats and they put that on.

1621
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: NOAs he didn't produce it is picked classic. If you

1622
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: picked the direction, you picked that script.

1623
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: I'm asking the.

1624
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: Script because I'm getting I'm just let me just get

1625
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: my position because when I answer, i'm asking, I'm asking.

1626
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: I want to want to leave you Illmatic class.

1627
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: It's a classic.

1628
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So so Illmatic and Kiss of Death are on

1629
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: the same level.

1630
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: No, No, I think there's a spectrum, so classics that

1631
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: happens with the worst class.

1632
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: I thought classic was class.

1633
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't mean they're on the same level because

1634
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 4: something they're not.

1635
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 3: So it's not a classic, it's a good albums saying

1636
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: it's not letting Elmatic on the same level they're now

1637
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: from from a rapper perspective and then from a pop star. Yes,

1638
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: I think it's the same. I think that a kid

1639
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: that was however old, NOAs you got the music and

1640
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 3: then you got the impact of it, and then you

1641
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: got the reach of the music. Ellmatic is a class

1642
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: I think. I think in the community you can't play

1643
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 3: it like anything off of Thriller.

1644
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: I think.

1645
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 3: I think Ellmatic is a classic to the culture, to

1646
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: every MC after that. Dad was old enough to know

1647
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 3: when that album drop and feel that. I think that

1648
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: nas inspired every MC after that to even try. That

1649
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: was like the goal that became the soundtrack of your life.

1650
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 3: You moved through wherever you was at with that music

1651
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 3: in your head. Right, Okay, to me, that's a classic.

1652
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 3: I don't think people moved around with a Kiss album

1653
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: like the same way they moved around with Illmatic. I

1654
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 3: don't think so, not saying Kiss and Kiss is an

1655
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 3: incredible MC, one of the greatest rappers ever. But I'm

1656
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: talking about the music. I don't think the music lived

1657
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 3: with us from his albums, the way the music lived

1658
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: with us from Illmatic, the way the music lived us

1659
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: from Reasonable Out.

1660
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 2: I think the different.

1661
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: I think the unfair thing to when you compare things

1662
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 3: that Elmatic. My only caveat in that is that Illmatic

1663
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 3: changed hip hop music and albums because of the the

1664
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: way that they went about the production of it. Yeah,

1665
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: we had never seen an artist go hand pick and

1666
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 3: pluck producers from other camp I'm gonna take the hottest

1667
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: guy out of Gangstar, I'm gonna take the produce out

1668
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 3: of the Gangstar. I'm gonna take the produce oiue of

1669
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: Pete Rock and Ceo Smooth. I'm gonna take the producer

1670
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: from Maine Sauce. We had never done every up until that,

1671
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 3: Right Trivers self contained, Maine Sauce, self contained, Bomb Squad

1672
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 3: self contained.

1673
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: We had never seen that.

1674
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 3: So it changed the way people went about making their album,

1675
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 3: So that in itself makes it impactful in game changing,

1676
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's unfit to compare

1677
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 3: certain albums to Ellmatic. Because of what Elmatic did to

1678
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 3: change it turned the tide in hip hop.

1679
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: Yea, even bad Boy being the sellout version of that

1680
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: still mainly just used hit Man. That was the first

1681
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: time you got a list producer.

1682
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: Right, he waited a production team.

1683
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying of different all these different

1684
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 3: guys production team.

1685
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: But where I also think it is unfair is the

1686
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: age gap as well, because, yeah, people, my age, Kiss

1687
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: of Death came out when I was fourteen. My age

1688
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: moved around with Kids to Death probably the same way

1689
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: y'all moved around with Ellmatic.

1690
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that Kiss of Death is on the

1691
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: same level of Illmatic, but.

1692
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: You also have to put that into consideration that hip

1693
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: hop is unlike any other genre. We're ten years is

1694
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: one hundred years, right, Like that's a huge gap between

1695
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: ninety four and two thousand and four of listeners. Kiss

1696
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: of Death meant a lot to us, and yeah, we

1697
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: moved around like this was the soundtracks of fucking life.

1698
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: And is at that point is it fair to say

1699
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 4: that there's different pockets of everybody in different pockets is

1700
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 4: going to say that a different album is a classic.

1701
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: If you go down to certain parts of the South,

1702
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 4: they would never say that Ellmatic is a classic, but

1703
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 4: somebody from their region that they grew up hearing.

1704
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: So we're never going to long story short, we're never

1705
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: all going to.

1706
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 4: Agree what a classic is, depending on age, depending on demographic,

1707
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: depending on where you grew up, Like everybody is going

1708
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 4: to have different classics.

1709
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 3: But you see, that's where I think, that's where I

1710
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: think the conversation is different. I think no matter where

1711
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 3: you're from, a classic is a classic, no matter where

1712
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: you're from, like under not a classic is undenied. I

1713
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: don't care if you're from the northwest, coast, east coast South.

1714
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 3: When we see Kevin Gates rapping reasonable doubt bas and

1715
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: he's from the South, that's letting you know, like he

1716
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: like Nigga, we was listening to that, So that narrative

1717
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 3: of in the South, we wasn't listening.

1718
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: Cut that shit out because niggas was listening to that.

1719
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: But people will tell you E forty and the Click

1720
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: got classic albums, and you will fight against that, and

1721
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: you fight against that.

1722
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: I would if someone in New York said Foreigner Degrees

1723
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Juvenile is not a classic album, the South would lose

1724
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: their motherfucking minds.

1725
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: I played crazy, you know what I'm saying.

1726
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: Like, but I mean, like Tomorrow's point, yes, Like I

1727
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: don't think no matter where you go, I think people

1728
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: would say at Aliens is a classic album, Quemini is

1729
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: a classic album.

1730
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: No matter where you're at.

1731
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: I think most people would say the Chronic Doggy Style,

1732
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: those are classic projects. But I think that's a nineties thing.

1733
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: I think once we hit the two thousands, it just

1734
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: got so spread out. I'm not even saying when it

1735
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: got to the internet yet. Hip hop just got so big,

1736
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: but your pockets happened and I got classics in the

1737
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: two thousands. Yeah, yeah, No, I mean yeah, he's not

1738
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: the only one has a classic in the two thousand

1739
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: and Good Kid Mad City. During the interludes, they're talking

1740
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: about TM one on one, like and that's in Compton

1741
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: up here. We thought TM one on one was a

1742
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: classic out the gate for I'm just saying, as the

1743
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: years went, the term class hip hop.

1744
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: Just got to classic.

1745
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 6: No.

1746
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 2: I think it's a good album, Okay, I think it's

1747
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: the second best album the Recession. I don't know if

1748
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: that's a no. No, that's my asking.

1749
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm asking it's the second second best. It's my second

1750
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: favorite at the TM one on one for sure.

1751
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: And then weirdly enough, I have TM one O three

1752
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: is the third best album. I know that's very widely

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Speaker 2: How do you guys think about this list? Because went

1780
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 2: on a tangent.

1781
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't even know.

1782
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: Andre. They killed me for that I had.

1783
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: We all agree he doesn't have a solo album in

1784
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: my top five, right, But without a solo album, Yeah,

1785
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 3: it's it's only been so long, you know what I'm saying.

1786
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: It's so long you can rest. It's just not does

1787
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: buster to have a classic album. It's gonna pay me

1788
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: for my answer when disaster strikes. What was the debut album?

1789
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: The coming, the fact that you have to think the

1790
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: fact that you have to think about it.

1791
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 5: Let you know now, the answer is no, bad bus.

1792
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: There is a goat. Buster is one of the greatest

1793
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: might be you ever had. He to me is in

1794
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: that Chris Brown category of you are a goat. You've

1795
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: given us so much, you've changed the entire genre. You

1796
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: are an elite artist. You've never given us that body

1797
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: of work that your peers have because you're in the

1798
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: conversation with with everyone that is a legend and Buster

1799
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: should be there and we'll always be there.

1800
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 2: But he's the Chris Brown. I think this is the

1801
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: answer is no.

1802
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: But I think there's probably large majorities of people that

1803
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 3: will say, yeah, extinction level event might be bust this

1804
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 3: classic album like his magnum Opus. But I don't think

1805
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: it's a It's a vast majority thing. And that's what

1806
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, that's part of the criteria. Yeah, you know

1807
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1808
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: He also had such a heavy output that it gets

1809
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: tough with you have thirty fucking albums. Ludicrous man, Fuck y'all. Yeah,

1810
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: chicken beer.

1811
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: Has a class. Chicken and Beer, I think is the

1812
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: one that.

1813
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: A classic word of mouth classic. Though all right, all right,

1814
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: chicken beer is a classic. The other ones are great

1815
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: World Classic. Can we just pull up the word classic

1816
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: because I like to use the right word.

1817
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm in that in my life. I want to say

1818
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: the right shot, but I don't want to. Yeah, Like,

1819
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to just keep saying ship, Like what

1820
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: do these words mean?

1821
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 5: Okay?

1822
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: Classic judged over a period of time to be that

1823
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind. Remarkably

1824
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: and obstruct instructively typical. That's different a work of a

1825
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: work of art, recognized and established value, a school subject

1826
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 4: that involves a study of ancient Greek, whatever, So it

1827
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 4: has to be judged over a period of time to

1828
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 4: be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.

1829
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

1830
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: Chicken and Beer to me is a classic to me

1831
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: because I was there. I don't know in thirty years

1832
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: if it's going to stand like who let these holes

1833
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: in my I don't know if that's going to like

1834
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: make it for the rest of the world. If you

1835
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: go through blow it Out, stand Up, Splash, Waterfalls, Hard Times, Dominant, back,

1836
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: Screwed Up, pussy pop and hip hop quotables, black Man, Struggle,

1837
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: Hos in My Room, Teamwork, this is a classic album

1838
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I'm not fighting you on that all

1839
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: is saying, I don't know if if an asteroid hits

1840
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: the fucking planet and we can put albums in some

1841
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: ship that's gonna survive, they're gonna take chicken and beer

1842
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: in ellmatic and be like these are these are the.

1843
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 2: Rich.

1844
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna say this is that.

1845
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: I don't.

1846
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 3: I think I'm like this is this was good, But

1847
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna listen to other classes. I don't

1848
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: know if I'm a fight forget just a long fight.

1849
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: I don't think that good album one impact is incredible,

1850
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 3: but just no, I just don't classic.

1851
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's it.

1852
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,520
Speaker 4: Do you think there's a little bit of a nostalgia

1853
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 4: that comes with classic, Like for example, like we were

1854
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 4: talking about bad movies that are maybe classic.

1855
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: Scarface is a classic.

1856
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 4: Even though you can go home, go back and poke

1857
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 4: holes in the story, it is a classic Belly horrible movie,

1858
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 4: It's still a classic movie.

1859
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: Scarface are actually very similar where there there are a

1860
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: lot of great moments. Yes there's a storyline, but it's

1861
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: just a bunch of cool moments. Yeah, a bunch of

1862
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: cool moments.

1863
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 4: But they also still Belly still affects like cultural conversations

1864
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 4: to this day.

1865
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 5: It's still quoted to this day.

1866
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: How Hype shot it is, how people to this day

1867
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: shoot movies and music videos.

1868
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can't so yeah, you can say that

1869
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: in as a centophile. Yes it's bad. It's a bad movie,

1870
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 4: but it's still a classic, Like you can't take classic

1871
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 4: from it.

1872
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you, inspected deck, look at all face. If

1873
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:23,919
Speaker 1: the flood didn't.

1874
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 3: Happen, maybe if DMX and NOS was not casting in that,

1875
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 3: we wouldn't even be talking about that movie.

1876
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: Of course not.

1877
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: But that's a lot of things. Yeah, okay, if Hype

1878
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: didn't direct it, like yeah, anybody else did train it?

1879
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no no.

1880
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: If Jay didn't rap, reasonable doubt, no no no no.

1881
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: Cashing is super important. Well, we've seen movies and TV

1882
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: shows where you know.

1883
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 3: They shot the pilot and they shot the pilot with

1884
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: one person and you know there was no chemistry and

1885
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 3: they put in another person like I could never see

1886
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 3: you know, Alan think as this as the dad you

1887
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like.

1888
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: Shit like that.

1889
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: So it's a funny example, I mean, but that's also

1890
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: hilarious too because NAS was horrible, and.

1891
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 2: But that adds to the allure of it. Oddly enough, Yo,

1892
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: I got shot in the leg. Let's go to Africa.

1893
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: Africa's far talking about Africa that fall. You said niggas

1894
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: pull up anything will pull up. The viotage is crazy.

1895
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 2: I just think it's a good movie. I don't know

1896
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: if it's a classic, but I get it.

1897
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 3: It's because it's so attached to our culture with DMX

1898
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: and nas being but.

1899
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: Hood Classic exists.

1900
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, hood classic classic, that's a real thing. But I

1901
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 4: don't want to take away from see. I don't want

1902
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: to say hood classic because Belly and Scarface are about

1903
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 4: the same amount of bad. And why only one of

1904
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 4: them got to be deemed as a hood classic, like.

1905
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: The scot Face the Hood Classic too, Yeah, only a

1906
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: classic because the Hood sex a classic.

1907
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: Suburban American thinks scarf a classicus is not.

1908
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 3: Jacket scarf face and Mount Kisskoy jackets golf.

1909
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens in the nineties, but whenever

1910
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: they put like scarface posters out, then the whites got

1911
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: into scarface. That's really what it was, because the whites

1912
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: like hip hop and posters. Yeah, but because we said,

1913
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: we said it was a classic, you know, but.

1914
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 3: If you start talking to If you ask DiCaprio with

1915
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: Scarface lands for he loves Al, I'm sure he ows

1916
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 3: this guy, but he doesn't go to Scarface when he's

1917
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 3: talking about Al.

1918
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: He's probably that's our's worst movie. If you ask the

1919
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: I was.

1920
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: Probably embarrassed in certain rooms when that's yeah, like that's so,

1921
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.

1922
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 3: It still is a classic for what. Yeah, it's a

1923
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: classic for what. It's worse for what is a classic

1924
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 3: because we said it was a classic, because.

1925
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: Even if it's not good, you can put something. I

1926
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: think music is a little different from movies because people

1927
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 4: will put on bad movies and enjoy them even even

1928
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 4: though they know it's a bad movie. Like we'll put

1929
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 4: on Belly knowing Belly is a terrible movie and still

1930
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 4: enjoy watching it. Putting on bad music and enjoying it

1931
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 4: is cringe. It's kind that's kind of like.

1932
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 5: That's different.

1933
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 3: I'd rather look at Keisha and that lingeride in the

1934
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,839
Speaker 3: fucking listen to some sub.

1935
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: Listening to p I, it's hood classic that that crossed

1936
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: over though, because I think, Okay, my dad loves Scarface,

1937
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: my dad loves dead presidents, my dad likes Payton Full,

1938
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: He's probably not going to sit and watch Belly with me. Like,

1939
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: there are hood classics that I think have have crossed over.

1940
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: Dead President's being one, Payton Full being one, and Scarface

1941
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: being one.

1942
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: Poetic Justice? Is that a hood classic?

1943
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 5: Don'ts off now?

1944
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm asking is that a hood classic? I

1945
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: think it is. It is.

1946
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 5: It's a classic.

1947
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: Wouldimer say it's not. Some would say it's not, yeah,

1948
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: some would say what about that is not a hoods

1949
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people I don't like classic.

1950
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm just saying some people, I think that would be

1951
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: the bar. But you like Justice is a great you

1952
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 2: think it's a great film? Yeah? You cool?

1953
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: You want to make it out like who's the what's

1954
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: wrong with party Justice?

1955
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 3: I thought we were celebrating your birthday while we like,

1956
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 3: what's exactly you know, pose a question?

1957
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 4: What's wrong with partic Justice? I love Poetic Justice. I

1958
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 4: just wanted to make sure that the room it was

1959
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 4: a great movie. He's taking the temperature.

1960
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: It's hot.

1961
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 3: But I think I think in the conversation of classic albums, though,

1962
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: I do think some things are subjective, but at the

1963
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 3: same time.

1964
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: Some things are just unanimous.

1965
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 3: Though now for sure and again back to you know,

1966
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: Jadakiss having three two or three classes versus Drake having none.

1967
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: People up that list one more time. I just want

1968
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 2: to see who else was on that at.

1969
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: This rand puba method Man, Jadakiss, Fablack classic.

1970
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 3: It's like, see that and that's an argument. That's an argument.

1971
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,839
Speaker 3: Some people say to Cal is a classic.

1972
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: I think, please, don't make this a clip. I think

1973
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: Cal is not a classic. I think Cal is in

1974
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: that time I like to Cal. It was looked at

1975
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: as underwhelming. But look at what Jessek and Ghost did

1976
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: at that exact same time. It is the worst one

1977
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: out of all of it.

1978
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 2: That's a great point.

1979
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: Don't make it a clip. I don't want to get

1980
01:23:59,160 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: killed this.

1981
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 2: You can't go to Shatland no more. But it's a

1982
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: great point.

1983
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Since that island this weekend.

1984
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: You can't go this weekend. I don't think to Cal

1985
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: is that.

1986
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: I think methan Man again is one of those like

1987
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: buster your goat goes without saying, but to Cal, the

1988
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: closest metan Man has a good album.

1989
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: To Cala is a great album. Let me put it

1990
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: that way.

1991
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 3: See why we can't just say that about a lot

1992
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: of other people that's my whole point why I got

1993
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: to be classic classic nah, but great Cuban link Yah.

1994
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 3: It's certain shit like I wouldn't go, I wouldn't fight

1995
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 3: you tooth and nail on Grand Puba really real, but

1996
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: I fuck with real Lorrel.

1997
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: I listen to that album. I still think it's dope.

1998
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 3: The fact that I can listen to that I'm in

1999
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and still think it's a dope album

2000
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 3: means I think it's a dope album. But when people

2001
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: when I fight tooth and Nail or say it's a classic, no,

2002
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 3: I'm not dying on that hill. But I think it's

2003
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: a great album. I think the impact that it had.

2004
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we can't count Brand Nubian album as

2005
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 3: a Grand Pooba solo because it's Brandnubian. But he really

2006
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 3: carried that album, you know what I'm saying. As far

2007
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 3: as him coming in and being the elder statesman in

2008
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 3: that crew, you know what I'm saying, having the solo

2009
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 3: records and doing all the ship that it did.

2010
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: It set him up for a solo project.

2011
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, nobody's gonna don't think a lot of people

2012
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: are gonna say Realerrilla is a classic, but it's a

2013
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: dope grandpoop album. Grandpool might be one of the most

2014
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: underrated artists that we have. That's unfortunately. Let's change that.

2015
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: Let's change it today. Like when you talk about everything

2016
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 3: that he bought to rap different wise stash his tone sound.

2017
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Fresh, shit like knowledge Yourself.

2018
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 3: He popped off wild brands, he popped off Jabou, crazy

2019
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: figure crazy. He brought that type of flash it into him,

2020
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: the book bag fly ship, you know what I'm saying,

2021
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 3: Like the preppy hood mixed with the hood ship, like

2022
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 3: rolling with the with the with the with the on

2023
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 3: man and and and honestly, the crazy shit is. He

2024
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 3: was so instrumental in Mary J. Blige's career, you know

2025
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like what's the four one one?

2026
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: And and.

2027
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: What's the joint the other jay Z joint? Check it out?

2028
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Check it out like those two records without Grandpool was

2029
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 3: a far bigger artist than Mary J.

2030
01:25:59,200 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: Blige.

2031
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 3: His credibility gave her alidity in those spaces, you know

2032
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like him popping off arguably one of

2033
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: our crown jewels and the Kata speaks as a testament

2034
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: to how important grand Pooba was in that moment.

2035
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2036
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, like he's he's probably talking that ship, yeah,

2037
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: and even talking that she's probably one.

2038
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Of the most underrated. So it was good to see

2039
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: you know him on this.

2040
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Just mentioned there's a lot of people you know they

2041
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: don't and I'm you know, I'm an eighties baby, so

2042
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: I know exactly what pood.

2043
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: What's this?

2044
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Gentleman put him at number one, number one of great

2045
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: greatest mcs without the classic. Now is this in order

2046
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: or is he just naming ten? I'm not sure, but

2047
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if he thinks.

2048
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: Grandpool Boy raps better than Black Thought, I don't know.

2049
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: Well that's that I don't get off this. This was

2050
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: my last point. Is it unfair that Black Thought is

2051
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: on this list?

2052
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 2: Unfair?

2053
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it is because he's the frontman of the roots,

2054
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: like he's the MC and the roots.

2055
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: That's like saying every album that he is kind of

2056
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: a soul album. Yes, he carries the weight of the

2057
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: of the roots for the album for every album, Like

2058
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: I hear when if you're in a duo when you

2059
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: don't have a soul like Andre on there or having

2060
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: Prodigy whatever.

2061
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you but he's the MC of the.

2062
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: Dice, you had other people there every now and then

2063
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: for it. That's just like a feature. Why is every

2064
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: roots album not technically right because there's been plenty of

2065
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: MC's that had just one producer, but they didn't name

2066
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: them as a group, but they had their their production

2067
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: squad the entire time.

2068
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: You think about like carra as One as opposed to

2069
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: Boogie Down productions. Yeah, those BDP albums are still carras One,

2070
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, They're just not deemed as solo.

2071
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 3: Maybe it's production, maybe it's whatever, or like I had

2072
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 3: another point, but basically there's certain yeah, there's certain artists

2073
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: that carry the bulk of the m seeing on the project,

2074
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 3: but because of the way the group is labeled or named,

2075
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 3: it's not you know, the Roots, The Roots is Black Thought.

2076
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: It's verse wise.

2077
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I if you want to make the

2078
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: case that it's a duo based off the amount of

2079
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: musicians that came and went, it's Black Thought and Questlove.

2080
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: But even then, like, okay, Black Thoughts the only not.

2081
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Rapping, you know, And of course you got all of

2082
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 3: the other mcs that were you got Dice Raw, you

2083
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 3: got trucking Off you got damn who just passed. I'm

2084
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 3: having a brain fart. But you know, there were other

2085
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: mcs that were part of the collective. But Black Thought

2086
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 3: even in those records, it's not like there was a

2087
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 3: bunch of solo records from a bunch of other people.

2088
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 3: Black Thought is the bulk of the MCing and the

2089
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 3: roots throughout the entire catalog.

2090
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: To me, that's like saying Doggie Style is not a

2091
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: solo snoop album.

2092
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

2093
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 3: It's labeled as a snoop album though. So that's that's

2094
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 3: what a different difference is. But that's like saying, you

2095
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 3: know you can you could say, you could say the

2096
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 3: Crime want music music.

2097
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: It's one producer and one rapper, a mirror and Black

2098
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: Thought doctors Ray. So is there a difference just because

2099
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: the label said Roots versus Black Thought. Now you make

2100
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: a case Black Thought every Roots project is a solo

2101
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: Black Thought out.

2102
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 3: A public enemy. Right, Those are Chuck, Those are Chuck.

2103
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 3: The albums Flip jumped in you know what I mean?

2104
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 3: Ad Lib Yeah, no one is a joke. But for

2105
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: the most part, Chuck D carries the bulk of the

2106
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 3: m SING throughout those projects. You know, what I'm saying.

2107
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 3: Or Gangstar is a group, but Preme didn't drop no raps.

2108
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like those are Guru. You

2109
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,919
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like Guru m sed on those albums.

2110
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this is close. How many classic albums you

2111
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: think Jadakins has?

2112
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 3: If I gotta, if I gotta fight for it, I'm

2113
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: gonna say one. I'm gonna say that the debut, And

2114
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 3: you said which one is classic?

2115
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: I think Kissed the Game Goodbye and Kiss the Death.

2116
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: My I have personal classics and then I have classics.

2117
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: There are under personal classics for me. If I were

2118
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: doing a class like Top twenty, I don't think I

2119
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: put kiss It at their Kissed the Game Goodbye.

2120
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 3: Thirty five year old me being overlooked. I think ghetto

2121
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Fabulist is being overlooked.

2122
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't have in these conversations. That's okay, how y'all

2123
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 2: say that so fast? But then, all right, I.

2124
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 3: Think ghetto fabulous is being overlooked in a lot of

2125
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 3: these conversations.

2126
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna go over real talk because anything I

2127
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: think Street.

2128
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 3: Dreams is being overlooked. Street Dreams it's classic, all right?

2129
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 3: Then you this classic I'm just saying. I'm just saying, bro,

2130
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,759
Speaker 3: we got your great albums. Great albums.

2131
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: We won't call them class, won't say the C word,

2132
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: but they're great albums.

2133
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: And that's all I'm just I just want people to

2134
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 3: stop using the word classic so loosely, right, unless you're

2135
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 3: talking about get Rich of dot trying, then please call

2136
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,480
Speaker 3: it a classic.

2137
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: If you deem so, if you feel that way. And

2138
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: like I said, it's also not even from Queens. That's

2139
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 2: all subjective. It's all subjective.

2140
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: You could be from Queens in the UK and that's

2141
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: a classic album. Okay, before we get out of here,

2142
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm asking this because I know the listeners want to

2143
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: hear from you more. I'm interviewing at this point. This morning,

2144
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Charlemagne had mentioned that he talked to somebody that heard

2145
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Iceman and that Future was on it, and it's been

2146
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: going viral all morning. This this is in real time.

2147
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: Can you confirm or deny that Future is on Iceman

2148
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: as of March twelfth, twenty twenty six, Dumpy side, big fact?

2149
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Is he on?

2150
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: Is he on Iceman as it stands today? March? I

2151
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: just said March twelfth, twenty twenty six, he might be okay.

2152
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean I personally the information I have and on

2153
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 2: the album, it's he's on the board, he's on the

2154
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: white board. It's ye, he's on the white body. Ideas ideas.

2155
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 2: There's a white board, parentheses an asterisk like what is well?

2156
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 3: Ideas smart, ideas are Ideas are being created? Yes, ideas

2157
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,839
Speaker 3: are being created, have been created?

2158
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Somebody they write future on the white boy will say Hendrix.

2159
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't know about that, but I know

2160
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 3: ideas or his full government have been created. Idea continue

2161
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 3: to be created, Ideas have been pivoted from gotcha.

2162
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's it's no.

2163
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 4: Matter where you went to media training school up they

2164
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 4: still like they still open.

2165
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Or they like that.

2166
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: Well and Well told them that, no, that's just a fact.

2167
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 3: It's just ideas of being created. The album is being

2168
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 3: you know, fleshed out. It's still a process.

2169
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Interesting.

2170
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: So but I thought, because this isn't even information that

2171
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 1: like we had behind the scenes. I thought it was

2172
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: kind of like known that Drake in the future pieced up.

2173
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: That's why everyone's like, yo, what the how could this happen?

2174
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: I thought that wasn't that like kind of common knowledge

2175
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: on the timeline they were that they were cool again.

2176
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know that. I don't I don't know

2177
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: about that, But you know, I don't think there's.

2178
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm tapped in with the Twitter rumors that that was

2179
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: going around everywhere, that Future and Drake we're cool again.

2180
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it's far fetched that they may work

2181
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 3: together again. I don't think that's a far fetched idea.

2182
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Music. Music is exponentially better when those guys are cool.

2183
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: I would I would hope to God Drake and Future

2184
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: our friends and make more music.

2185
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 6: Need that.

2186
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: Again before we leave.

2187
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: I've noticed Mall is more like Ebro than I ever

2188
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: thought because I saw this wild clip of Ebro today.

2189
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 4: Please are you trying to get him back for saying

2190
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 4: get Richard die Tarya?

2191
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't a class No. That's why I'm starting to

2192
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: realize that that Mall just his speech off to get

2193
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: rich shit like that. We don't know what we're talking about.

2194
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Did y'all see this this Hebro clip today and salutes

2195
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: to Hebros. That's that's my guy, Love love you Hebro.

2196
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: This might be one of the wildest clips I've seen

2197
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: this month. Can we play this?

2198
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 6: But that's why in hip hop, there has always been

2199
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 6: gatekeepers because some of y'all don't deserve a fucking opinion

2200
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 6: because you haven't been doing this professionally, consuming playing and critiquing.

2201
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 2: Hip hop as your life. You're just a fan and

2202
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: we love you. You're just a consumer. You're a customer,

2203
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: as we call them.

2204
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 6: That's why sometimes your opinion customer doesn't fucking count, because

2205
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 6: you don't fucking do this for real. And that's why

2206
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 6: when people who do this for real get around and

2207
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 6: they start looking at the nuances of what an album

2208
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 6: actually is and what it should mean, and what the

2209
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 6: person is saying through the album and the picture that

2210
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 6: it's painting and the lyrical breakdown and them being able

2211
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 6: to stay on topic, and who the producers are and

2212
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 6: what it means and what it serves in time and

2213
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 6: all of these things. When you critique complete bodies of work,

2214
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 6: not just collections of great songs, that's when you get

2215
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 6: into what is a classic album in general and a

2216
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 6: classic hip hop album.

2217
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Ma I felt like you kind of sounded like that

2218
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: to us today talking about Gabrich, Like we don't know

2219
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: what we're talking about.

2220
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 3: I say, y'all don't know Joe to that never came

2221
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 3: out of my mouth one time. I never said that,

2222
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 3: what is he what is Hebro talking about her? I mean,

2223
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what he read or what people are

2224
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 3: saying to him online. Maybe he feels like people that

2225
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 3: you know, haven't been in or around music, in the

2226
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 3: business of music as much as he has or as

2227
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 3: long as he has, don't really have anything that they

2228
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: could say to him, because again, you're speaking from a

2229
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: different perspective of it. One is a true consumer. First

2230
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 3: of all, we're all consumers, we all consume consumers. But

2231
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 3: Ebro has been on the other side. He's been in

2232
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 3: a music business. He's been programmed, directed at radio, and

2233
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 3: you know, things like that. So he has a different sense,

2234
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 3: in a different you know, connection to the pulse of

2235
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: music and just the energy of music. So I understand

2236
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 3: what he's saying to an extent. I don't know who

2237
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 3: he's talking I don't know where this came from. I

2238
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 3: don't know if somebody said something based on something Nebro

2239
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 3: said and responded to him and got mad at something

2240
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 3: he said.

2241
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: On his opinion. But these are all just a pinions.

2242
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 2: It's all about opinions.

2243
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 3: But again, something's a little crazy to say, yeah, y'all

2244
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 3: feel like me saying get Rich Dot Trine's not a

2245
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 3: class Even though said it's a great album, I just

2246
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 3: don't think it's a classic. Got no, this is good

2247
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 3: barbershop debate.

2248
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 2: That's one thing.

2249
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 3: I think that people talk with a certain level of

2250
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 3: certainty that don't have no idea what the fuck they

2251
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 3: talking about. And in that regard, I gotta agree with

2252
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 3: him because I'm in the music business. I'm a rap up,

2253
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 3: been on the road, I'm a songwriter. I'm friends with

2254
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 3: these artists. I know what happened in the studio, why

2255
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 3: this song didn't come out.

2256
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Et cetera.

2257
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 3: You have people that, respectfully, you work at FedEx, you

2258
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 3: go get your hair cutting the barber shop, and you

2259
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 3: talk with this level of certainty about things you have

2260
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 3: no idea about. And that shit pisces me off because

2261
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 3: it's like, and God forbid you, fucking Bob michaelphone.

2262
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 2: In a computer and a camera and now you have

2263
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: it the Internet. Yeah, God forbid you got Wi Fi.

2264
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 3: Because now you're talking, and now you got an audience,

2265
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 3: and now you got people chiming in, and now people

2266
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 3: are taking your word as some type of factual thing.

2267
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 3: When basically you really just talking out your ass. And

2268
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: I think that where it gets convoluted in that there's

2269
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 3: like a disconnection is that you have certain people that

2270
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 3: do have a certain pedigree and do have a certain

2271
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: regard for this business with the knowledge and access that

2272
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 3: goes along with it, and they YouTube come up right

2273
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 3: after the other person who just talk about shit in

2274
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 3: the room and people they value those things the same

2275
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: way when it's not coming from the same place.

2276
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 4: So I understand where you're coming from as far as

2277
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: like talking about behind the scene shit that other people

2278
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 4: may not be privy to, but they get on the

2279
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 4: mic and like fans come on and say all types

2280
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 4: of conspiracy theories with artists on all types of shit first,

2281
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 4: like they're talking for sure, and they have no idea

2282
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 4: what the fuck they're talking about. Right with that, I agree,

2283
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 4: But when it comes to the music in the ear,

2284
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 4: the artists should never be creating music for his peers

2285
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 4: or for the people to work at radio stations to

2286
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 4: critique it. Yeah, we want you to play it, but

2287
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 4: it's not for you. It's for the niggas in the

2288
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 4: barber shop to debate whether kissing or kiss the game. Goodbye,

2289
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 4: is a fucking plastic years later. It's not for us,

2290
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 4: it's not for they hate that we even talk about

2291
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 4: their shit.

2292
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 2: They don't create it for us.

2293
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 4: They create it for the fans something more more often,

2294
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 4: especially now for the casual fan. So to say that

2295
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 4: those people don't have the right to critique music when

2296
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 4: they're the ones who started critique and music before it

2297
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 4: became a job that pays ebro all of that money,

2298
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 4: that's stupid to me.

2299
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if that's his argument.

2300
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody has the right once the artists out there,

2301
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 3: everybody with ears has the right to critique it.

2302
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: And you're right and everything that you said. But to me,

2303
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: that's a very very small, small small part of the

2304
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: people that consume music. We're consumed in that world, whether

2305
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: it's content reactions, this and that, the fans that have

2306
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: now become reaction commenters, and that YouTube world.

2307
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big thing.

2308
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: Gets a lot of views, but go through the streams

2309
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: of an artist versus the streams of a reaction. Neither

2310
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: here nor there. Most people are driving their kids to school,

2311
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: going to and from work, and are there to just

2312
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: listen to the music and have every right to critique

2313
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: the entire thing. But I'm not saying Ebro was wrong.

2314
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: It was just in the way he said it with

2315
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 1: such entitlement, where he doesn't realize we are the least

2316
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: important part of this entire process. We as in who

2317
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 1: the critiquers, the media people, the commenters that are on

2318
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: these microphones, We are the least important out of this

2319
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: whole process. Matter of fact, Ebro was more important when

2320
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: he was a programmed director and was able to play

2321
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: certain records for artists. At that point, he was more

2322
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: important than someone that could critique. The two most important

2323
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: people in this group is the artist, number one, and

2324
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: then the consumer that's listening to it and buying it.

2325
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times people in front of microphones

2326
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: will start listening to records they've never listened to. They're

2327
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 1: only doing it to critique. They're not a consumer. Especially

2328
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm listening to this because I have to comment on it.

2329
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a consumer. That we are the least important,

2330
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: and that's also why I hate I'm going to go

2331
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: against our own shit.

2332
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: That's why I hate PR people. Now you ain't Querto

2333
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 2: Ricans listen that bad buddy was ringing.

2334
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: I know what with PR people, I think they're disconnected.

2335
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: Do I love that artists want to come up here

2336
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: and talk about stuff. I just don't think that's as

2337
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: important as y'all think it is, because a lot of

2338
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: our fans are content fans, they're not music fans. If

2339
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: someone comes up here and isn't able to play their music,

2340
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: because you can't do that with YouTube, Netflix, anywhere, it'll

2341
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 1: get white listed, hustling backwards. You can't even tell your

2342
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: label to let us clear a song that we could

2343
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 1: play on our show. What that's not a music consumer.

2344
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: You're selling music right now. You're coming up here just

2345
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: to try to be funny so you can get some views.

2346
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 1: That doesn't That does not move the needle on selling arts.

2347
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 3: Having this conversation with the artist, like the game is

2348
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 3: so fucked up, right because like you know, God, I'm

2349
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 3: on Serious XM. Right, it's a radio platform, it's a

2350
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 3: national platform. We play music. The music once it plays.

2351
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 3: If you wrote those songs or you're an artists on

2352
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 3: those songs, you will get paid from those songs. You'll

2353
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 3: have artists that will dub coming up to Serious to

2354
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 3: come and sit with y'all. No, I'm just saying in general,

2355
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 3: right because y'all high or they know the clips is

2356
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 3: going to go whatever whatever, that's not gonna ring the register,

2357
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And so that shit is,

2358
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,560
Speaker 3: like the whole shit is, is convoluted and twisted. But

2359
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 3: back to your point, we also, I mean, I don't

2360
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 3: look at myself as a media personnelity, even though people do.

2361
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm an artist, I create a right, but I think

2362
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 3: I have enough cachet in the business that I do

2363
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 3: have an opinion to talk about it as well. But

2364
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 3: I think that you talk about those people. Those people also,

2365
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 3: the consumers are important because they go out and consume.

2366
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 3: Right now, we're all streaming, so it's different, but they'll

2367
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 3: still go buy ticket y'all. Motherfucker's not buying tickets to shows,

2368
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 3: y'all calling the label, y'all calling the manager, y'all.

2369
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 2: Going in for free.

2370
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 3: And when you want access too, you want to go backstage,

2371
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:48,719
Speaker 3: you want adapt the artists, you might.

2372
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,759
Speaker 2: Want to Yeah, you might want to get some content,

2373
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2374
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're right to that in that regard, like

2375
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 3: we are the least important people because if you're if

2376
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 3: your objective is to put out music so that you

2377
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 3: can financially support yourself and your family, then the consumer

2378
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 3: is who you need to be focused on.

2379
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: And to me also, it's contradicting of what Ebro does

2380
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: that I admire about Ebro with his Apple show. Outside

2381
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 1: of what he does when de Deska Low and everyone,

2382
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: he also does his one on one interviews with artists

2383
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: that are still teetering on the line. I appreciate that

2384
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: Ebro will interview artists that are not a list and

2385
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 1: I think that does help them because on the Apple

2386
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: platform you can play the music afterwards because it's on

2387
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: their streaming site. And it's more important because we can't

2388
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: play music up here because we get flagged. Ebro can

2389
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: do that with his stuff and I think that's important.

2390
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 1: But why Ebro is doing it outside of him also

2391
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: making money as he should he as a family, It

2392
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: is to get that artist in front of people that

2393
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: will consume the music, the same people that Ebro is

2394
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: just shitting on right now.

2395
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, what are we getting the context of weird?

2396
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: The person that's supposed to have an opinion, You're trying

2397
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: to show them the artist.

2398
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,839
Speaker 4: Well, it appears that he that he was also involved

2399
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 4: in the classic Yeah conversation of an album, and I'm

2400
01:42:58,840 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 4: sure people disagree.

2401
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 2: Everybody can have an opinion on that.

2402
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 1: We're all music snobs. And I also will not have

2403
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: conversations with certain people that I know don't love music

2404
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 1: the same way.

2405
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 5: I agree.

2406
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: There'll be plenty of people like, oh, I see where

2407
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: you're at with shit. I'm not even there's no point

2408
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: us even having a conversation. Literally, I get that there,

2409
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: but I don't shit on them as a human being

2410
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 1: to say that they do not matter and are not

2411
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 1: allowed to listen to music or have an opinion anymore.

2412
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 3: What I want to do, bro, and don't say one

2413
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 3: word so many they have in four hour conversations and

2414
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 3: debates about shit.

2415
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: I know how they get mad when you don't speak.

2416
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I know it.

2417
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 3: No, I get my cut, I get out of there.

2418
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 3: But it's just so I be so fortunate when I'm

2419
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 3: in the chair, because then I can't really talk, but

2420
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 3: I be hearing people talk, and I mean to very

2421
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 3: very high regard and disagreement about shit. They just don't

2422
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 3: have any idea about it, and I just be like,

2423
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 3: y'all know what the fuck y'all talking about?

2424
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: But I felt like that with.

2425
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 3: Math, But I can't argue that because this music subjective, right,

2426
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, how can y'all say that this

2427
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 3: artist has three or two or three classics and this

2428
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 3: artist has none?

2429
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 2: You too, were too about classic.

2430
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 3: Albums, not a rap album, not R and B album,

2431
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 3: a classic body of work. To me, it's just like

2432
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 3: and in that moment, I was like, you know what,

2433
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 3: I get it, Like, it's all we all are going

2434
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 3: to experience and hear things and and take from art

2435
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 3: differently than others.

2436
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 2: So I get it.

2437
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 3: So we can have the conversation just because it's all

2438
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 3: entertainment for ships and giggles, But it's like certain things,

2439
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm just not debating cert I just don't get when

2440
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 3: people speak matter of factly about shit that they just

2441
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 3: don't know, especially like business ship. We can talk about

2442
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 3: opinions on music. Everybody can have their opinion on that.

2443
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 3: People talk about now because you know, Son started fucking

2444
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 3: with Son because he did this or.

2445
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 2: He did the record, and.

2446
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: That shit is annoying as fuck. But to me, to me,

2447
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 1: that's not talking about music. That's content. You're in the

2448
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: content game. You're in the gossip game. You're in you're

2449
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: in the Wendy Williams World. Did Wendy talk about music, Sure,

2450
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 1: but Wendy was in the gossip world. To me, that's

2451
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: what those people are in.

2452
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 2: A protast.

2453
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 1: Wendy looking like, you know, a lot of the fucks

2454
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: she was talking about on her gay listen might be

2455
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: bad a thousand but but still gott But I mean

2456
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: to me again, I'm the same way in barbershops. I

2457
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: will just stay quiet because it'll be a lot of

2458
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: shit that infuriates me and it'll be like, you don't

2459
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: know what the fuck you're talking about, But I stay

2460
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: quiet because music. I'm a snob, yes, but I realized

2461
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: that music is not necessarily for snobs the way maybe

2462
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: the art world is that's very niche.

2463
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 2: Music is for the whole world.

2464
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: The volume of music that comes out every day is

2465
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: not the way bask yacht paintings come out, Like, Yeah,

2466
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: you could walk into a gallery and be like, bro,

2467
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: my two year old could draw this. We don't fully

2468
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: understand the fucking point and this and that whatever music

2469
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: is for everybody to just listen to, it can't be

2470
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 1: critiqued at the same snob level that someone like Ebro,

2471
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: myself or anyone else in this room feels it should be.

2472
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: It's for the average consumer. It's not for the snob.

2473
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: If you want that, then fucking go watch Whiplash and

2474
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 1: go shit on Timothy Chalamagne and say opera is the

2475
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: greatest thing of all time. I don't know be a snob.

2476
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Where snobs are. Hip hop is the biggest genre in

2477
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: the world. It's not for snobs anymore. You can't ship

2478
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: on the consumer if you want to keep the ship moving.

2479
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: If we all still want to have jobs, we can't

2480
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: have snobs. Well, I mean, yam bars, listen, we wrapped

2481
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: all seasons, man.

2482
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: We all consumers at the end of the day. So,

2483
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. Some people can speak matter

2484
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 2: of fact, some can't. But I look at it.

2485
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 3: It's all entertaining. Even if you say some crazy shit

2486
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 3: and I want to laugh, I gotta laugh out of it. Look,

2487
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 3: it's like a cool I'm not gonna lose no sleep,

2488
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get upset. It's like that's how you feel,

2489
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 3: that's how you feel to We want to thank you

2490
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 3: for coming back, man, thank you, thank you guys for

2491
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 3: having to come back soon. Man, so we could talk

2492
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 3: some more. Chance perfect, Hopefully I get a chance to

2493
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 3: hug the matter. That's the only reason I came in

2494
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 3: hugging hours off from twelve to I think five, so

2495
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 3: you might have just just call it, just caught it.

2496
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, she goes in an overtime. It's double for the

2497
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: After that time, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe,

2498
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:56,799
Speaker 1: be blessed.

2499
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. That's told Ray

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01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: No worran now