1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, this is hilarious that we're in the same city 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: and we're on a phone podcast right now. I mean, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: it's so two thousand twenty and it's not even two. Wow, 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: we're really that ahead of the time, right It's actually 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: just this to me goes to show how life is 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: and everyone's so freaking busy. You can barely even get together. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: We can't even get together for twenty minutes to do 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: and at casual podcasts this week, well you know what 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like the fact that we 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: figured out, like, you know what people don't know was 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: the reason why I'm not able to be with Kelly 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: is because I had to deal with the plumber. It 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: was late happens. This is like real life ship but 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: you know, talk about acting casual. We like figured out 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: like let's just do it on the phone. O my god. 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: And then this is kind of like considering how busy 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: our lives are, it's kind of a nice like trick 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: to know that we can do this if we need to. 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I agree, I think the end person podcast is always 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: a little better personally. Yes, I think the giggling is 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: more fun. Well, the truth this is I was supposed 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: to be in Chicago this week anyway, so we would 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: have been doing it over the phone, which so it 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: was exactly how we had planned it. See the universe knew, um, 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: which is sort of what I wanted to talk about, 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: because I was supposed to be in Chicago for the 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: last two weeks doing the freezing my eggs process that 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: I've been talking about a lot, and I posted actually 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: when I got to Chicago because I was getting my ultrasound, 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: and so I posted about it because I feel the 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: need to update people just about this whole process because 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: I've really opened up about it last season on Very Cavaliery, 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 1: and um, I still get questions about it. So of course, 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: like for me, that was my favorite part about being 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: on that show in general, was that I actually got 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to connect with people on stuff that I was going through, 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: or like hear stories about that or just kind of 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: like other people experiencing the same thing. It just makes 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: you feel, you know, a lot, more connected and less alone. 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: And um, I really loved that. So anyway, I want 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: to keep the conversation going because it's been truly helpful 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: to me and hopefully me sharing my story it is 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: helpful to any other girls in my position, and or 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: who might be in this position. So anyway, Um, the 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: reason I'm home though, is because we canceled my cycle, 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: which was really disappointing. Yeah, um, so god, you know what, 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: I haven't cried at all in like a week, and 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: I just teared up so bad. But I don't know 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: why I like telling the story out loud. Maybe I 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: mean that, I mean you and I honestly for the listeners, 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: like you and I haven't even really gone into much 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: detail exactly what went down, so what like why why 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: did you? Why did you cancel? Everything? Like? What was 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: the punis so basically what happened. And the reason I 55 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: haven't I haven't even that's the very good point. Like 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: I haven't even talked to someone my friends about it 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: because when I got home, I was kind of defeated 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: in this like ick way, and you know, you just 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: don't want to keep reliving it, so you just I 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: think I just shut down for a couple of days. 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: But and it's also you know, a fairly like intimate thing, 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, right as I talked about it on a 63 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: podcast well and on national TV. But you know whatever, 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: it's but whatever. But the thing is is, like I 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: also know that you would like when you were ready 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: to talk about it, you would yes, Um, here we are, here, 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: we are. So basically what happened is, you know, I'm 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I am thirty seven, and because of that, they do 69 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: say with girls, you know, once you turn thirty five, 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: it's a pretty heavy decline in the number of eggs 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that we have. We start losing eggs the second we're born. 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: So um, you know, we're declining our whole lives. But 73 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: I do have a specifically low egg count, and I'm 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: sure most of that has to do with my age. 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: I do think some of it is also just like 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: your body and you can't help it. So um, I 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: was going in knowing that, and when I got to Chicago, 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: we initially noticed to have assists, which is exactly what 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: happened to me when I filmed this initially with very 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: cavaliery was they found assist and that scared me so 81 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: much the first time because I didn't know what it meant. 82 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: But the truth was is it just went away on 83 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: its own. And sometimes you have to have surgery or 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: a procedure to get them removed, but mine when I 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: went its own. So it's seeming like these are maybe 86 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: some common things for me about my cycle. And so 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: when I got to Chicago and I found that, they 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: were like, that's okay, Like we can still keep going. 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: We see this many follicles, like it's probably going to 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: go away on its own after this cycle. We'll keep 91 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: monitoring it. But seemingly things are fine. So I went 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: start ahead, went ahead and started my shots, and um, 93 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: I think I was on day five or six when 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: I went back for my second ultrasound, and and by 95 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: the time I got back for the second one, um, 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: this cyst had grown pretty like a good bit. And 97 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately what she thought were three follicles. I mean I 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: had other ones too, but like she was like, oh shit, 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: because three of the follicles that we thought I had 100 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: on my left ovary were in fact just a part 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: of this cyst, which made the total number that I 102 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: had very low. So, um, it just was pointless to 103 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: do to keep going with this cycle, because the deal 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: with all this stuff is it's a numbers game, So 105 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: you want to get as many as you possibly can, 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: because one, you can't predict that a follicle is actually 107 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: going to produce an egg. Um, if it does produce 108 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: an egg, and they're able to retrieve it. You don't 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: know if it's going to be a viable egg, so 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: and you don't really find that out until you go 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: to make an embryo later when you have a partner 112 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: or sperm or whatever it is, and so you just 113 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: want as many as you possibly can. So they felt 114 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: like to put my body through the rest of the meds, 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: all the shots and then the I mean it's a surgery, 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, the procedure would just be kind of a waste. 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, would it? Would it diminish just doing that 118 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: diminish sort? I mean, I don't know the terminology, but 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: like diminish the return the next time you go to 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: try not necessarily, So basically every cycle is different. Because 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: you remember I went to Chicago a couple of months 122 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: ago to do my initial like ultrasound and check with them, 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: and I had way more follicles that cycle. I was 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: like so pissed. I'm like, damn it, I wish I 125 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: could have just done it. Then you know, um, but 126 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: you can't really predict what it's going to be like, 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: so you just you start priming your body, which is 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: what they call it when you start taking like I 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: had to take all these hormone pills, and that's the 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: ship that makes you feel crazy, Like had me on 131 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: progester own, which just makes you feel like you're pregnant it, 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: which is like adding injury to insult because you're actually 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: not pregnant, but you feel terrible and you're tired and 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: your boobs and all that stuff. Um Oh, I was 135 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: so emotional, Like poor Bobby. We were out trying to 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: film American Idol, and every time a contestant tells a 137 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: sad story, I was like, god, like trying to be professional, 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: but you're crying. So I hope they filmed you. I 139 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: was way behind the scenes on that one. Um. But anyway, 140 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: so they just felt like it would be too much 141 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: for my body and hopefully will um adjust some meds. 142 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: And I think they're actually going to start me on 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: a testosterone patch and I was like, oh my god, 144 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a fucking monster, But oh my god, 145 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: you're also gonna like grow great and that's gonna just 146 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: really cheer my boyfriend up. I will tell you this 147 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: has been a lot, Like you know, I'm in this 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: new relationship and it's tricky just navigating like this serious 149 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: of a thing at the beginning of a relationship is 150 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: really weird. I bet you know. It's like the added 151 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: stress of like to like, you know, him being like, well, 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: she really wants kids, you know. I'm basically like, hey, 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: so nice to meet you, and I'm about to freeze 154 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: my eggs. I hope you're ready. Yeah, I mean he 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: we had to have these conversations like super early on, 156 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, which is a little weird. It's also maybe 157 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: just like adulting. I don't know, but it's definitely brought 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: up like that was a little weirdness. And then of 159 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: course like I'm just hormonal and have been and was 160 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: he there with you or were you alone? He came 161 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: up for that first week and I was in Chicago 162 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: when I first got there and was like going to 163 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: get settled and stay. He was up there to support 164 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: me and you know, help me get settled. And when 165 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I went to the first Old or Sound, when we 166 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: thought everything was fine, um, and so we actually had 167 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: a great time. It's like a little vacation. But yeah, 168 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just been a lot to balance all 169 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: of that and the way I'm feeling and you're not 170 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: feeling like yourself, you know, as much as I wanted 171 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to try to pretend like I was and I could 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: go about life as normal. I just really wasn't. I'm 173 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: super sensitive and all of that stuff. So and how 174 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: many days were you then up there by yourself? Um? Well, 175 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: I came home because I had two days of a 176 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: job that I needed to do, and I went back 177 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: up there, and literally I went straight to my ultrasound 178 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: when I landed, and they told they found the cyst 179 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: growing and all of that stuff, and so, um, I 180 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: went back and they were like, Okay, we're gonna talk 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: to the doctor and we'll call you. And when they 182 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: called me, they were like, he wants to cancel the cycle. 183 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: And I just after I got my ship together, I 184 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: got on a plane and came back to Nashville because 185 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be at home, you know, and 186 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. But like sister, pretty common, right, 187 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: like yes, okay, And so that was the deal, Like 188 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: the first time that that happened to me, I mean, 189 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, do I have cancer? 190 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: You know, you just go to the worst place in 191 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: your head, especially like when you don't know, because I 192 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes there's doctors and they just tell you 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: the facts, and they don't understand that, Like we don't 194 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: deal with this every single day, So that sounds terrible 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: to me. And what does that mean? And what does 196 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: that mean for my body? And can I ever have 197 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: kids and all of that. Now that I've been through 198 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: that already, it didn't really like worry me this time. 199 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: It just it's kind of like a bummer because this 200 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: cycle goes away. So and we're gonna try again. Like 201 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: I said, um, we're trying to figure out the new plan. 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: You have to then go on another medicine to get 203 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: this medicine out of your system. I mean, it's crazy. 204 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: I hate medicine and I'm on so many medicines. But 205 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: what's crazy is that someone they figured out how to 206 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: do that. I know, well that is the like so 207 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, as much as I could be like, oh, 208 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: this is not ideal, it's amazing that we have this 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: opportunity as a Yeah, it really is. It really is. 210 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: It's really crazy, even like the to the point of 211 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: like knowing what medicine you need to take to clear 212 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: your system of the existing like there were women that 213 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: were the guinea pigs for this, that it was trial 214 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: and error and they you know, certainly it's not even 215 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: perfect as it is, but like it's closer to perfect 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: now than it was, you know before they started, so sure, 217 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: and they have different solutions, like they know they were 218 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's a protocol with this, like Okay, that 219 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: medicine regimen didn't give us the results we wanted, so 220 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: here's another one we can try. Like it's just it's 221 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool thing that's happening. So that is 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: the updates. I literally, like I said, last week was 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: completely shut down and kind of honestly a little dark 224 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: and defeated. But I've had this moment of like step back, 225 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's like we did that podcast on 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: New Year's Resolutions. So maybe it's just because it's like 227 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: the end of the year and we're going into a 228 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: new year, and I'm just like everything is happening exactly 229 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to, and I just have to stop, 230 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: like you have to stop trying to fit stuff so 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: much into this box that you wanted to and let go, 232 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, YEA, trust the universe that it's gonna happen 233 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: the way it should. Well, I mean, it's it's it's crazy. 234 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I feel like so many things in life. Um, you know, 235 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: people say like it happens when your time, When it's 236 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: your time, you know, yeah, and whether you're a spiritual 237 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: person or religious person or what you know, it's, uh, 238 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: it's a God's plan, you know. Of cour if you're 239 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: just a Drake fan, you know, Oh wow, that was 240 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: a really really interesting little thing you just threw in there. 241 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh God. Yeah, So I think I got defeated, and 242 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: I like, of course, sends me into the spiral of 243 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: like I'm doing this alone and it's just not how 244 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: you picture yourself when you're a little kid having a family. 245 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: But again, like we said, it's amazing that we have 246 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: this option. And the truth is is, you know, I 247 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: have another friend of mine who she's a little bit 248 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: older than me, but she's been going through IVF and 249 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, she has a husband and they're trying to 250 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: do it together. And I don't think that it makes 251 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: it any easier, you know, I think I don't think 252 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: how like natural pregnancy with husband and wife is an 253 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: easy thing either. You know, it's just not the art 254 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: of having a child is just it's it's complicated, and 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: then they're once they're born, it's you know, it doesn't 256 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: get easy then either, it's and you know what's interesting too, 257 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: is you know and you would you see your thirty 258 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: seven years old like what a family looks like has 259 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: changed so much since then that you know, the feeling 260 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: of like feeling like you're doing it alone. Like there's 261 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the world that are, you know, 262 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: sort of walking the same exact path you are, whether 263 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: it's adopting alone, trying to conceive alone. Um, you know, 264 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: I feel like the rate of divorces higher now than 265 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: when we were kids, So they're parenting alone. Um. So 266 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, the good thing is that you're surrounded by 267 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: lots of friends. They love you. Um, that baby is 268 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: going to be so loved. It's around that. You know, 269 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're single at that point or 270 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: if you're married to Is this your Is this your 271 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: plan to just get me knocked up to have your baby? 272 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: I knew it. Compared in your voice, I'm sorry you're 273 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: going with that anyway? What do you have going on? Good? Well, Well, 274 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: it's not it's not having a child. It's more about 275 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: like I feel like a child. I am running around 276 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: like a chicken with my head cut off trying to 277 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: figure out last a Christmas presents, like even thought about it, 278 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: and it's like the countdown is here, so what are well? 279 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got two nieces, my family back in Virginia, 280 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: some friends here, um, and you know, and the thing 281 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: for me is I find gift buying to be so stressful, 282 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: and because of that, I wait till the last minute, 283 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: which causes panic to ensue, and then it makes it 284 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: even more stressful because you know, it's the older dog like, 285 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: it's it's the thought that counts, and by waiting, I 286 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: have removed the time to put real thought into something. 287 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: And that is truly what stresses me out. And it's 288 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: not about like how much I'm gonna spend, because honestly, 289 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: like when I stumble upon or find or think of 290 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: the perfect gift for somebody, I don't give a ship 291 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: what it cost, you know, like because I'm so happy 292 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: that I've actually like solved something for myself. But normally 293 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: what happens when I put myself in the situation is 294 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: I run around and buy a bunch of stupid ship 295 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: that like doesn't really have any thought, Like I'm like, oh, 296 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: this is cute or this is funny or I like 297 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: force some fake meaning into it, um, just to sort 298 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: of check check it off the list. So one of 299 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: my New Year's resolutions is to like get ahead of 300 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping. My mother, are you going to start your 301 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: certain January? What's the plan? Well, you know, here's the thing. 302 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: And I know I talked about having lists in my 303 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: phone all the time, but like our phone is an 304 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: amazing notepad, and I did just I bought UM, I 305 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: bought a gift for a friend today that actually had 306 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: some thought in it. And I'm really proud of it 307 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: and excited. It's so excited to give it to her. 308 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: So and and it was and the the idea came 309 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: out of a conversation that I was having with her 310 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: when we were having dinner. She said something that she 311 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: would love and I heard it and I made a 312 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: note of it. And that's my gift was born out 313 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: of that. So I'm gonna listen better to things that 314 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: people what what friends and families say they I'll make 315 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: a note of it, and if I see it, I'll 316 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: buy it. I'll store it until Christmas, or I'll give 317 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: it to them on their birthday. I just want to 318 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: be a better gift giver. I's also actually really thoughtful 319 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: to just keep paying attention to what your friends are 320 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: saying and like talking about and wanting, Like you know, 321 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: my friends who are really good at giving gifts. It's 322 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: it amazes me. And it doesn't it doesn't have to 323 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: be something big and expensive. It's it's truly the thought 324 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: that counts. And when I receive a gift that is thoughtful, 325 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: that's that's where the value it means so much more 326 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: so much more so. Um that you know, that's kind 327 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: of where I am right now. And you know, I 328 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: thought that maybe it would be fun to like help 329 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: people with I dritted down some like just thoughts on 330 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: like if you're find yourself in the same situation as me. 331 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Obviously for those that I haven't put thought into, I 332 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: just have to like come up with things. Um So, 333 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: how do you tips on how to do that? Because 334 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm literally like, Okay, I've gotten a present for my well, 335 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: let's you know, like these things. And I don't think 336 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm reinventing any sort of list here, but like you 337 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: can make things for people, Um Like, what give me 338 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: some examples of what you're gonna make? Well, I'm not 339 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: very crappy, right, you could. You could bake, You could 340 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: bake a ton of cookies and yeah, yeah you could. 341 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: You could write someone a really nice note. I actually 342 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: love a good note like that to me means I mean, 343 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: you could give me that for my gift of any 344 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: any time ever, just about like something real about our 345 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: relationship or anything like that the year, and that would 346 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: mean more to me than something, you know. I was 347 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: even thinking, like I think you could go through your 348 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: photos on your phone and find like a picture of 349 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: you with your friend or family member or loved one 350 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: and have it printed out and then write a note 351 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: on the back of it about that moment or about 352 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: what what you love about your friend or family member 353 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. UM and then it's something that's 354 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: also tangible that you can put on display, and it's 355 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: not just a note that goes into a UM. You know. 356 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: I know this is kind of a basic thing, but like, 357 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: candles are a really nice gift. Like all of what 358 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I love about a candle is it's really useful, and 359 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: I generally remember who gave me candles, and every time 360 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: I lighted, I think about the person who gave it 361 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: to me. UM By in fact, burning right now is 362 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: the candle that you gave me. Un It's so good. 363 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: That ship smells good. It's soy wax. I feel you know, 364 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: I don't feel gross after burning it around myself. Do 365 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: you think thoughts about me every time you light it? Yes? Yes? 366 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Another thing that um I got this off of Instagram. 367 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: It was a chip that some money for. But like, 368 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: another really nice thing to give people is books. O. 369 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: You know, I know it can be stressful to think, like, well, 370 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: what are they going to run and read? It's always 371 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: awesome to give someone a book that you loved and 372 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: just say I read this book, I loved it. I 373 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: think you might like it too, because then at least 374 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: you know that you thought it was good. And especially 375 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: if you guys have common interests, like if it's a 376 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: friend of yours, y'all share a lot of common interests 377 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: or spiritual things or you know, whatever that might be 378 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: in line. That's a good idea. I like that one. 379 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: And then my favorite book that I read this year 380 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: is called to Shape the Sleeping Self, and it's by 381 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: a guy named Jedediah Jenkins who took im He like, 382 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: quit his job, sort of quit his life and biked 383 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: from Portland's down to Patagonia. Okay, minus the biking part. 384 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty amazing, right, just like I can't do 385 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: this ship anymore? Yeah, I mean that's that That's really 386 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: the the crux of it is like the challenge, but 387 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: like when you bike and do that, the situations to 388 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: put them in is really what makes the trip, makes 389 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: the trip magical, and it gives you a lot of 390 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: time to be in your head. Um, let's see other ideas. 391 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Cards and you know car and if you guys don't 392 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: own Cards against Humanity or your friends don't buy it 393 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: for them. It is such a fun way to connect 394 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: with friends and family Thanksgiving. I played at Thanksgiving with 395 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: my parents who are in their seventies and my dad. 396 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: My dad, they've never even heard of the game. Um, 397 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: they're not crude people. So I was a little embarrassed 398 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: on the time, and my dad got the hang of 399 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: it and literally crushed us all. Like there were moments 400 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna kiss my pants the things 401 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: that he put down, and he did it with such intention. 402 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: He played the game so well. And my mom had 403 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: some funny parts, but like I don't know that she 404 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: got how funny it was. When she put it down, 405 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: but my dad's were like sexual and disgusting and crushed 406 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: to us. Um, let's see, it's always a good icebreaker 407 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: at any sort of like gathering. I feel like totally 408 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: it's a fun way to, like, you know, if you're 409 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: having a smaller party, like to make everyone like actually 410 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: sit down and interact together versus like people breaking up 411 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: into twos and threes. Um booze wine always a good 412 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: thing unless you're friends sober um. And look, not not 413 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: to advertise Amazon, but you know, if you don't do 414 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: not have an Amazon Prime Um membership, it is worth 415 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: than whatever hundred dollars a year because right now, when 416 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: you are in full on panic mode, the largest store 417 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: in the world is at your fingertip and you can 418 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: have almost anything in the day. And the closer we're 419 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: getting to Christmas, the more important that's going to be. 420 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: You know. Like I received a gift today that I 421 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: ordered for somebody from Pottery Barn and it was coffee 422 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: mug and it was shattered into a million pieces. And 423 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: I called them and asked if they could send it 424 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: overnight because I'm leaving on Friday, and they couldn't get 425 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: it to men yeah, I think it's done as far 426 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: as shipping and tom because there are every place seems 427 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: so backed up too, So I'm gonna have to go 428 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: do them on locally, I think, because then you're supporting 429 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: local business. So I order a lot of stuff online 430 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: because I panic and me too. Yeah, so well, these 431 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: are actually really good tips. I'm walking away thinking about 432 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: a couple of different ideas that might work for me. 433 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: So look at you with all your knowledge. Um well, 434 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean not me and I'm just kidding seriously, Well, 435 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: good luck to you. Do you have any final tips 436 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: for the people? Not? Well, Look, the holiday season is 437 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: not meant to be a stressful time. Give yourself, give 438 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: your forgive yourself for you know, just be better next 439 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: year and you know, buy gift cards by last minute 440 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: things and be okay with it and go enjoy your family. 441 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Have a RESTful, RESTful holiday break and we'll be back 442 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: in two. Yeah. I think that that that is like 443 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: a huge thing for me to to be present over 444 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: this break. You know, yes, get out, get off my phone, 445 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: just be with my people. Life is too short, Like 446 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: this is such a great time to like be with him, 447 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I know we talked a little bit 448 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: about it at Thanksgiving. You know, let's try and keep 449 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: politics out of the holidays, you know, like go back 450 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: and listen to all the things that you shouldn't do 451 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: at holiday parties if you're worried about interacting with your family, 452 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: and right, yeah, I think we did another one about family, 453 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, so and yeah, it's like it's a 454 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: perfect time to just beat casual and a casual you know, 455 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: act the casual list that you absolutely like. Chips said, 456 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: we are going to take off a couple of weeks 457 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: to just enjoy the holidays, so we'll be back with 458 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you guys in I hope everyone has an amazing holiday 459 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: and always remember yeah and always. You can really see 460 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: we really like this is the second time now this month. 461 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: We obviously need a holiday. We can't even finish our tagline. 462 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: Well you know what, we're not face to face, so 463 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: it's a lot harder. Let's try it again one more time. Everyone, 464 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: have a happy holiday and always remember a casual. 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