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Speaker 1: Resigning their own before free agency. Welcome Birg Gang. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, Zach Kershman joins me. Officially, free agency begins Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the start of the new league year. Unofficially, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: well underway. Well we can't talk about is how the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have prioritized their own free agents. Also, Zach's been busy.

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Speaker 1: He's got a great story on s Darling Thomas, and

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Speaker 1: he's been keeping track of all the mock drafts. Hits

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight fifty eight and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Graeler.

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Speaker 1: So a sneaky good follow during free agency. As I'm

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Speaker 1: learning in real time, is Cardinals outside linebacker jack of

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Speaker 1: all trades on that defensive side of the ball. Mac Wilson,

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Speaker 1: you've seen this, Sech. I'm sure you retweeted all, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to follow players because sometimes they know things

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Speaker 1: before we do, and I think Mac did too. This

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Speaker 1: all began on what was it? This was Sunday. The

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Speaker 1: first tweet was tomorrow rocket ship emoji with two pictures

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Speaker 1: a smiling Jonathan Gannon and Manti Austin Fort on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Can we also just explained rocket ship for a quick second.

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Speaker 3: Mac Wilson, that's his ak, that's his rack name. But

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Speaker 3: the reason why he has a rocket ship emoji attached

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Speaker 3: to everything is because when he signed with the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: this time last year, he thought that the bird head

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Speaker 3: it in all the sweetz proceed all right.

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Speaker 1: And then earlier on Monday, which I can only guess

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Speaker 1: landing Milton Williams, there was the eyeball emoji, the big

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Speaker 1: after that boom with two rocket emojis with five o's

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Speaker 1: he brings the boom. Oh boy, walk right into that one?

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Speaker 1: You did?

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Speaker 3: Wilson set down one up, Craig, why is that the case.

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Speaker 1: I can only assume, and we all know what that

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Speaker 1: think Bird Gang should be very happy about, because according

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Speaker 1: to reports, no, the Cardinals did not land Milton Williams,

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Speaker 1: but apparently they have landed Williams's teammates, outside linebacker Josh Sweats.

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Speaker 1: A reported four year contract will be twenty eights later

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Speaker 1: in March. Again, as we speak here on Monday, Yes,

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Speaker 1: free agency is underway, but you can only discuss, you

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Speaker 1: can only agree to terms. The new league year begins Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That's when players can put pen to paper if you

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Speaker 1: are a free agent and sign, and that's when we

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Speaker 1: anticipate the Cardinals making this move official. But again going

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Speaker 1: back to how it began, Cardinals covered to Mac Wilson

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Speaker 3: Some of the best recruiters are the guys within your

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Speaker 3: own building. And they're not necessarily the coaches or the

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Speaker 3: it's an automatic boost to the outside linebacker room. And

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Speaker 3: and anticipate for it to be, Josh Sweat reunites with

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Speaker 1: And Swet's best year statistically as far as sex he

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Speaker 3: how he built a strong relationship with Kaizer White. But

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Speaker 1: Good segue here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: proudly partner of the Arizona Cardinals. This team had or

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Speaker 1: entered the offseason with twenty unrestricted free agents. As we

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Speaker 1: Began late last week on Friday, Joey Blunts Aaron Brewer

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Speaker 1: a restricted free agent, so it does say the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: And then early on Monday, Evan Brown Kevin Beacham agree

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Speaker 1: So you have two fifths of your offensive line for

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Speaker 3: We were joking about it. All they need to do

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Speaker 3: first of all, that is ridiculous coincidence. Yes, that's how

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Speaker 3: that ends up happening. But these are players that this

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Speaker 3: coaching staff has spoken very highly of. Aaron Brewer. There

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Speaker 3: is not a player more consistent than your long snapper,

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Speaker 3: Baron Browning, you traded a pick for him during the season,

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Speaker 1: Brown started all seventeen games last season at left guard.

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Speaker 1: Beach was on the field for sixteen games, started twelve

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Speaker 1: of them, tenant right tackle, two at left tackle. But

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Speaker 1: Love this move to keep him in Arizona. Kelvin Beacham,

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Speaker 1: be thirty six in June, and this will be his

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Speaker 1: fourteenth season, sixth in Arizona. But certainly again you need

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Speaker 3: You can't put a number on the confidence that that

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Speaker 1: He played.

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Speaker 3: He played on both sides on the line.

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Speaker 1: Look, Paras Jahnson Junior is not going anywhere. He is

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Speaker 1: Other great transition by you, Zach. It's almost like you

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Speaker 1: that quarterback feeling uncomfortable in the pocket. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think we saw that on a consistent basis week in

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Speaker 1: and week out last season. So how to get better? Well,

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Speaker 1: the easiest is up the middle, because that's the quickest

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Speaker 1: way to get to the quarterback. But you have someone

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Speaker 1: in the interior, like a Chris Jones, like an Aaron

440
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Speaker 1: Donald that can cause havoc in the middle of your defense.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why it's obvious one the Milton

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Speaker 1: Williams run at earlier in free agency, and now you

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Speaker 1: look at all the mock drafts, defensive line, defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: defensive end. It's obvious to everyone. I think it's obvious

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Speaker 1: to all of us. Yeah, the Cardinals are going to

446
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Speaker 1: look at the line of scrimmage when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the draft, provided one they don't trade back, and even

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Speaker 1: if they do. You brought up Lanser lines draft or

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Speaker 1: mock draft, his two point zero mock draft, the trade

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Speaker 1: with the Texans to twenty five and selecting the wide

451
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Speaker 1: receiver Luther Burdon out of Missouri, and that's where it's Okay,

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Speaker 1: do we take at that point if you are dropping

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Speaker 1: back in the and you're picking twenty two to twenty three,

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Speaker 1: twenty four, is that the best player or is it

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Speaker 1: the best position where you need the help? Is it

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Speaker 1: we're taking the top three wide receiver versus the sixth

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Speaker 1: or seventh or eighth defensive tackle, and then how do

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Speaker 1: you figure out what is better? That's why. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: alarming when you see wide receiver because it's not a

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Speaker 1: position in need. Yet at the same time, when you're

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Speaker 1: selected in the first round, where do you have that

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Speaker 1: player ranked compared to where your needs are at going

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Speaker 1: into the season.

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Speaker 3: Craig, you spoke to a lot of the draft experts

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Speaker 3: and the analyst and those that create these mock drafts

466
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Speaker 3: when you were at the scouting combine, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of them were saying, there are a bunch of first

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Speaker 3: round grades on a lot of these defensive tackles. And

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Speaker 3: depending on what happens with the quarterbacks, or if t

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Speaker 3: Mac from Arizona gets drafted early on or the two

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Speaker 3: tight ends Tyler Warren and Colston loves Lovelin, if that happens,

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Speaker 3: it pushes some of the best defensive prospects down the board.

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Speaker 3: Any keeps the Cardinals within prime range to draft a

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Speaker 3: top ten prospect at number sixteen. Then again, if you

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Speaker 3: look at a mock draft like like Lancerline had on

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Speaker 3: that two point zero, even with the Cardinals trading back

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Speaker 3: the picks afterwards, the Los Angeles Rams and this is

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Speaker 3: once again at Lancer Line two point oh. You can

479
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Speaker 3: go to Ezycardinals dot com to the Cardinals mock draft

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Speaker 3: tracker one point oh. It's at the very bottom if

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Speaker 3: you click that link. The twenty six pick goes to

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Speaker 3: La Rams. He has Jihad Campbell, a linebacker from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: I've seen him mocked to the Cardinals plenty of times.

484
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Speaker 3: Also Walter Nolan thirtieth pick, Nick Scourerton thirty one. It's

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Speaker 3: more so to say that some of the players that

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals are available to select at sixteen, if the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals were to trade back, they're still potentially going to

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Speaker 3: be there.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating again when you have all

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Speaker 1: the attention on the draft and it happens at the

491
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Speaker 1: end of April, meaning you have still better than a

492
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Speaker 1: month to go to listen to all this talk. And

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Speaker 1: then how does free agency affect what you do in

494
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Speaker 1: the draft, again, depending on what you're selecting. I don't

495
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Speaker 1: think as a first round pick it should matter what

496
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Speaker 1: you do in free agency. It's more what you do

497
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Speaker 1: on maybe late Day two, Day three. Hey, we address

498
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Speaker 1: that need in free agency. We don't need to go

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Speaker 1: out and get that particular position in Day three, especially

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Speaker 1: when it's a late Day three pick where it's a

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Speaker 1: very unknown and you're asking a rookie to come in

502
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Speaker 1: and maybe play meaningful snaps when you a dressed that

503
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Speaker 1: position in free agency. Look, you love being.

504
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Speaker 3: Able to see a guy like Dante Stills, a six

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Speaker 3: round pick, come into the mix and have eight sacks

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Speaker 3: over the last two seasons and play as much as

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Speaker 3: he had, But you don't necessarily find those diamond in

508
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Speaker 3: the rough that late in the draft as as frequently

509
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Speaker 3: as the Cardinals have had the ability to have some

510
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Speaker 3: of their guys Key trog Clark, another six round guy

511
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Speaker 3: playing a lot of different snaps, So the Cardinals have

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Speaker 3: a nose for evaluating that talent later down the boards.

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Speaker 3: But as you mentioned, it's a matter stick of just

514
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Speaker 3: getting to the quarterback more consistently and you have more

515
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Speaker 3: of that trust with some of the guys you drafted

516
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Speaker 3: early on. I do want also remind people that Ljkyllier

517
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Speaker 3: is a free agent to be well. I guess now

518
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: the legal tampering period has begin He's available. He's available

519
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: for teams to contact. Roy Lopez. Another guy out there,

520
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: Nakwon Jones. These are three different players that have started

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00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: games for the Arizona Cardinals as early as this season.

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Speaker 3: There's a chance that the Cardinals do opt to bring

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Speaker 3: some of their guys back while also bringing some of

524
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Speaker 3: their old bringing some of the new blood into the

525
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Speaker 3: mix via the draft or as we mentioned earlier on

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Speaker 3: free agency is just beginning.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of free agency as it impacts the Cardinals within

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Speaker 1: the NFC West and the news again, this is fast

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Speaker 1: paced right now as far as players that are coming

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Speaker 1: and are going. Certainly the news. What is going on

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Speaker 1: in Seattle at the moment you release Tyler Lockett, you

532
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: trade DK Metcalf to the Steelers, you let Gino Smith

533
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Speaker 1: go to the Raiders, and all of a sudden, Sam

534
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Speaker 1: Darnold to reports is now the Seahawks QB one and

535
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Speaker 1: I personally am glad to see Gino out of the division.

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Speaker 1: He went six and oh against the Cardinals since twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two.

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Speaker 3: That's unheard of, but then again, here it is. And

539
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: now he's out of the division. He now has to

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Speaker 3: deal with the likes of Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 3: Bo nicks Man. I did not feel bad for him

542
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: at all, but also DK Metcalf. He's out of the division.

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Speaker 3: He's going to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tyler Lockett, the team

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Speaker 3: decided to, you know, part ways with him. They made

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Speaker 3: a plethora of moves on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 3: and it's impressive to see just the Seahawks, a team

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Speaker 3: that the Cardinals were fighting tooth and nail with towards

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Speaker 3: the back end of the season for first place in

549
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Speaker 3: the division, and then the Rams kind of slid out

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Speaker 3: of nowhere and we're able to take the crown for

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Speaker 3: being the division winner in the NFC West. A lot

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Speaker 3: of moves have been made all around, and these are

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00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: moves that do impact the Cardinals. You played these guys

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Speaker 3: twice this season, and we saw it was one of

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Speaker 3: the better seasons that the Cardinals have had in the

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Speaker 3: NFC West. You know, but but now it's it's crunch time.

557
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: The Cardinals were close, but they were a couple pieces away.

558
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: Did you help yourself while all the other teams were

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Speaker 3: also helping themselves.

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Speaker 1: And one of those games that got away was against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings in Minnesota, quarterbacked by then Sam Darnold. So

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals will see Sam again now just in a

563
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Speaker 1: Seahawks uniform. They will also see wearing a Rams uniform.

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Speaker 1: And this is gonna take a little while to get

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Speaker 1: used to. But DeVante Adams is now in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: a two year contract though if you kind of look

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Speaker 1: at some of the reporting, reads some of the reporting,

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Speaker 1: and it's really just a one year deal, twenty six

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Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Cooper Cup is he staying? Is he going?

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 1: Certainly now looks like he is not going to be

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Speaker 1: back with the Rams. But you have put a Nakoola

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Speaker 1: on one side, Devanta Adams on another. Matthew Stafford is

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Speaker 1: sticking around. So again, as as the years go by,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford gets older, yet he is still that quarterback

576
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Speaker 1: that can dice you up at again any given week

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Speaker 1: and still be a very quality QB, better than quality

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Speaker 1: QB in the league.

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Speaker 3: He's a great, He's a great, and this coaching staff

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Speaker 3: from their time in the NFC North when they were

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota and Matthew Stafford was in Detroit. They became

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Speaker 3: very familiar playing against and coaching against a Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 3: offense and what he's able to bring to the table.

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Speaker 3: And he's very similar to a guy like James Connors

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Speaker 3: as their years have progressed. As their years have progressed,

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Speaker 3: they've gotten better each year in a year in and

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Speaker 3: year out. And now you pair him up with a

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Speaker 3: guy like Devontae Adams. Not to say that that is

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Speaker 3: at least I personally don't think it's a massive, massive

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Speaker 3: upgrade over a guy like Cooper Cup, knowing his history

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Speaker 3: and what he was able to bring to the table.

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Speaker 3: But Devonte Adams is a baller, and unlike Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 3: he was able to stay healthy for majority of his career.

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Speaker 3: That is something that you don't want your quarterback to

595
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Speaker 3: be like, well, where's my player? Is he missing the injuries?

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Speaker 3: You never wish that upon anybody. At least you know

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Speaker 3: with a guy like Davanta Adams, at least you assume

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Speaker 3: and you expect for him to stay fully healthy. Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 3: the Rams front office said that the least likely scenario

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Speaker 3: is that they do end up keeping him and working

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Speaker 3: something out so that he remains out there in Hollywood. However, Craig,

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Speaker 3: I will say this, it's a word of advice, do

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Speaker 3: not travel during free agency. Because I was stuck on

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Speaker 3: a plane and then randomly, you know, you peek over

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Speaker 3: at somebody and they have a notifications saying Devontae Adams

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Speaker 3: is a Los Angeles ram and it makes you get

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Speaker 3: on the Wi Fi and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say this in your defense, though free agency

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00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: technically had not started while you were in the air.

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Speaker 1: Adams was released, so he was free to sign with

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Speaker 1: whatever team, but on his season. Oh okay, so you're

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Speaker 1: talking about just the off season season. Yeah, then that's

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Speaker 1: on you for traveling.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said it's my bad. I put my

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Speaker 3: hand up. At this point, you should learned that there

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Speaker 3: is never a There's never really a good time until

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Speaker 3: you get to what is it, late June, early July,

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Speaker 3: July fourth, you know what, Zach travel around the fourth

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Speaker 3: of July holiday weekend. That's when things really slow down

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and that will certainly be done. I

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Speaker 3: will be traveling around July fourth, where I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I put a poll out there and see where

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Speaker 3: people take me. Now, look, it's a it's a move

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Speaker 3: that definitely does shake up the NFC West. It's something

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Speaker 3: that certainly helps the Los Angeles Rams. Kudos to Sean

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Speaker 3: mcvagh for recruiting him while DeVante Adams was in Japan.

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Speaker 1: It shows that McVeigh was in Japan.

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Speaker 3: Somebody somebody was in Japan.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was McVeigh that was the one that

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Speaker 1: was in Japan overseas doing the recruiting via funk.

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Speaker 3: Because somebody somebody was in Japan. Everybody seems to be

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Speaker 3: traveling around this time.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is in South Korea for the first time,

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Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, and he had a hero's welcome

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Speaker 3: when he got to the airport. I saw that on

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Speaker 3: cam Cox's Twitter account. He was able to post somebody's

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Speaker 3: story and you see him walking out of the terminal,

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Speaker 3: right out of baggage claim and everybody was over there,

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Speaker 3: a lot of K one jerseys decked out over the

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Speaker 3: railing for him to sign and he took a lot

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Speaker 3: of photos. So he does deserve that heroes welcome, and

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Speaker 3: it is so awesome to see Kyler Murray smiling, and

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Speaker 3: I hope a lot of the moves that the Cardinals

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00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: have made and will made will make will have a

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Speaker 3: smile on K One's face.

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Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun to follow K One

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Speaker 1: as he heads to or is now in Korea as

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Speaker 1: far as his first time there. His mom is part

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Speaker 1: Korean and that is why this is a trip that

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Speaker 1: he had been wanting to do for a while now

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Speaker 1: and finally getting to do it ahead of his seventh season.

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Speaker 1: One of the note here on Cardinals Covered two presented

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Overtime, one of one. Everyone to Azycardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: and also the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel. But Zachi

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Speaker 1: worked on a story with Starling Thomas, who I think

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But he shared his story with you about

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Speaker 1: Well done by you, great subject material, great interview E

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Speaker 1: and Starling, and it was a very meaningful and moving

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Speaker 1: piece by you and Alex Greenberg.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yes, Alex Greenberg definitely a shout out

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Speaker 3: to him, Jacob Ortiz as well, but the biggest shout

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Speaker 3: not easy for somebody to be as open about their

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Speaker 3: biggest game of his career, he walks off the field

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Speaker 3: and he's told about the news, and then only a

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Speaker 3: few months later ends up tearing his ACL. But always

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Speaker 3: made a promise to his mom that he's going to

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Speaker 3: play in her memory and her legacy. Played eight games

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Speaker 3: on a torn ACL. Some people in the NBA you

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Speaker 3: up flopping and you're out for you know, load new games,

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Speaker 3: load management. Starling played for eight games on a torn

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Speaker 3: ACL and then you know, I could I could describe

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Speaker 3: themselves and hear it from the man himself, because Starling

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Speaker 3: very open, very vulnerable about his life, about his story,

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Speaker 3: what it meant when he got signed by the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: after getting cut from the Detroit Lions, and that feeling

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Speaker 3: of how heavy things were after he got you know,

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Speaker 3: Very fascinating story. And there's a lot of different players

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Speaker 3: guy like that, And I'm very thankful well too, Starling

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Speaker 3: for trusting me and trusting us, and I hope the

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Speaker 1: Well said Cardinals Overtime the latest episode Azycardinals dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals official YouTube channel. Be sure and check

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Speaker 1: that outs as again, free agency is underway. Teams can negotiate,

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Speaker 1: nothing can be signed until Wednesday, and yes we know

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Speaker 1: the reports are out there. Josh Sweat leaving Philadelphia as

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Speaker 1: Zach Gershman once did, coming to the az to work

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Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: See follows in good footstuffs, So can I say I

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Speaker 3: walk so he could run?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take credit for this signing?

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Speaker 3: No, okay, but if he happens to, you know, finish

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five with fourteen sacks while wearing a Cardinal uniform,

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Speaker 3: You're welcome, bird gang.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see what happens in the days to come.

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Speaker 1: The official Sistar telling them at the new leak here

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Speaker 1: begins on Wednesday. Your secret is safe with me. And

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Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lit on. This

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Joe Mamahundra, our associate producer Cuddy Fincher for

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Speaker 1: Zach Kershman, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two